Thoughts on OWNING a RED SCARLET-W 2018
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- I've owned a RED camera for a few months now. Here are some pros and cons and just overall helpful tips you should know and be aware of before purchasing your very own RED!
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Who in the world told me having a mustache on a TH-cam video was a good idea? Just a small update still own a RED and love it. Have shot with all their 'brains' now and will make a new video soon-ish!
Hey I’ve been thinking about jumping to a red Gemini. I have a Varicam LT which is about equally as expensive as some Reds. But guess what nobody knows that camera and the Gemini has almost the same dynamic range. Maybe a little better color depth and dual iso is a little better on Varicam but close enough on red. Have you used a Gemini? I think the 5k and increased colors the smaller camera form factor plus the name wouldn’t be a bad move. I’ve seen them selling for decent prices online.
@@AlexDerrick_DP I've seen a little bit from the Varicam LT but have never used one myself. They seem to be like great cameras. A few things to note: it has 14 stops where as the gemini has 16.5+, althought a small number, its a pretty big difference which will most likely be noticed in your highlight's & shadows. RED will offer you higher offspeed fps recording. RED has a RAW codec, which is insanely fast and flexible in post. All this being said, it all comes down to what work you are doing, what your clients needs are, and what future work you want to book. In my market, no one is really using the Varicam and idk what kind of full day rate you could get with a DP / rental package with owning that camera. If you aren't worried about that then go for it! Also check out the Black Magic Ursa 4.6k Pro G2! Hope this helps.
Great video!
Full disclosure, I worked for RED for a little bit. That being said, here’s my comment:
The handle is absolutely an issue that it’s too long but it fits perfectly with the production module that is longer than the other modules and allows for battery swaps without having to detach it.
I personally love the small handle that they sell that locks your grip in with the battery.
But yeah... 3rd party is definitely a good way to go, especially on your wallet.
I love the idea that you rent your self out as a red tech. Brilliant!
Having worked in that field, many old school cinematographers don’t want to use the red because they don’t know how. You bridge that gap!
To your point about reputation and such, absolutely! Not only are you a pro for showing up with pro equipment, but especially (what I have found) is that cinema sensors (due to less compression) give you so much more image quality, especially in action and movement heavy shots over dslr’s that are almost useless without stabilization.
I also find it easier on my editing rig to work with 8k red footage than footage from a gh5 because of its insane compression and toll on the cpu.
Again, great video :)
Its called a RED digital cinema camera. This means the main purpose of the camera is to be a cinema camera. Anything else is secondary. As you mention, if a film set, it work fine. I personally don' t like the fan noise from it, beside that, No complain
I agree it's a cinema camera which I mentioned in the video. The fan noise doesn't bother me too much.. it doesn't ruin my audio however, I don't love how exposed it is.. still makes me nervous.
Hopefully purchasing an older scarlet-x this week. Been using a gen1 A7 for the last few years and the leap has got me scared. this video was a breath of fresh air.
Nice, congrats! Welcome to RED!
I've been using the Sony a7s ii and saw the price dropped below $5,000.00. Did you ever end up buying it?
You should check out the Shape Full Play batts. They're shorter than the HyperCores and they'll fit with your top handle. Super rad batteries.
Heck yeah, I'll have to check them out! Thanks!
Great video! I would love to watch a video about pricing, marketing, and the ways to charge when you have a Red Camera! Thanks Justin and congrats on your purchase!
Thanks Mikey! It's definitely a tricky thing to gauge for yourself. I'd love to do more helpful insights on this in the future! I by no means have it all figured out, but I'm in the middle of figuring it out and want to share my knowledge along the way :)
Subscribed! Thx for your honest thoughts!
Don’t know if you already know Bebob batteries but they solved the handle issue of the red perfectly as they released micro v-mount batteries this summer.
Made my life with my scarlet so much easier... ;)
Keep it up and happy new year!!! Peace
Haven't heard about those batteries! Wooden Camera has a few solutions I am looking into now!
You think the boot up time takes forever on a Scarlet-W...? I remember shooting on the Red-One haha that beast started up in like 5min. LOL
Hahahaha no way man! You are the true MVP!
Not gonna lie... I was quite surprised seeing that Canon 50mm on there. Good for you man, footage looks dope!
I think I sold that lens right after this video haha. I can't remember but I think at the time I only owned a 16-35 and 70-200 and I was definitely not going to use the 70-200 to hold in video lol. Canon L series glass is about the most common glass I see shot with RED.. but when you put some Lomo's or Kowa's in front of that sensor, sheeeeesh. Talk about an image.
Justin Burgan yeah, I can imagine a 70-200 being a nightmare on there. You’re definitely right, Canon L series seems be common place on the front of a RED. It’s awesome that you experimented which some niche lenses, I would really like to see some more of that, you must be the first TH-camrI’ve personally come across who talked about the possibilities, (besides MKBHD with the probe lens)... keep it up dude!
@@zero-zero-2755 yeah, I'd really love to take my channel into that space. Definitely some things missing on the youtube space. Thanks for all the feedback. Let me know if there's something you'd like to see!
Handle battery issue. Another reason why gold mount is better.
Nice video dude. I have a smaller handle so I don't have your problem, but you could use Hawk woods battery's. You should check them out: super small, lightweight and 150W! And no, I'm not a HawkWoods rep... Just love them.
I have seen those! They are sweet! The only problem is the 150w isn't travel friendly. I found a 190w from Switronix that separates to 2 95w that is already TSA approved!
I don't know about the rules in the US, but I fly with the 150 all the time. Just because it says flight safe, they always allow it. They actually never really looked at the battery's yet...
Oh wow! Yeah definitely be careful on that! 100W and less is always pre approved but anything over 100 must be approved. Make sure they are on your carry on too and not checked for air pressure purposes!
Blue shape battery are available in smaller size and will give you same or better service
How does the comparison of Red Scarlet-W sensor and APS-C DSLR sensor look in terms of the amount of light that falls on the sensor ?
I'm not sure I fully understand your question. In terms of Dynamic Range.. Red is by far superior than any DSLR / APS-C I've ever used. I came from a Black Magic Ursa Mini 4k.. I can tell the shadow and highlight roll off is SOOO much better. Especially highlights. It's nice having details in your highlights instead of just being blown out. If you are asking about the crop factor on the Red on the different filming resolutions.. I can't speak a whole lot to your light question. I've made a mistake at shooting at 2k with either a 16:1 or 18:1 compression and my footage was hardly usable. (it was only usable because I needed it and couldnt re shoot) I mostly stick to 4k or 5k 8:1 or 12:1. I only use the 2k mode if I need a frame rate higher than 120 such as 240 or 300! Hope this helps :)
Use gold mounts😉
Haha, you're not wrong. I had already invested in the V-Mount world so I have stuck with that.
subbed cause of the clips from the snowboarding. incredible shots!
When speaking about the weight you could mention it's... weight, for example?
Hahaha true, although every build on a RED varies from filmmaker to filmmaker. My rig runs between 8-16lbs.
How about a mini v mount 🔋 it doesn’t have to be a RED battery. I’m just saying....!
I don't own any RED batteries. I actually found a few solutions and will make an updated video soon :)
Saw the handle in half
Dude sorry to be that guy but the audio quality in this sucks, video quality is great but unfortunately the audio lets it down.
Dude, no worries! You're not wrong ;) Unfortunately I recorded this a while back and managed to swipe the external audio. So it's all camera internal. Glad you noticed and hold people to a higher standard!
Justin Burgan no worries, we have all been there at one point! Hate it when that happens! :D
Would you say that a Red Epix X Misterium 5k is worth it in 2019, if it's sub $5000?
Ditto
When you spend so much money on a red you forget good audio. Which is always more important
Yep, if you read below you'll see I recorded audio externally and then accidentally swiped it off my hard drive before editing this film :/
VERY HELPFUL!!!!! Yes seriously
Thank you!!
This is really awesome man! I've learned a lot from this video. I'm looking into the Scarlet-w, Gemini 5k, and the Epic-W? Any advice you can give me? My market is Commercials, Music Videos, Films, Weddings, Branding Content and Real Estate?
Def go Gemini if you can! It's probably the most versatile and run n gun friendly. Most markets aren't to 8k yet. If you know you need 8k then you probably wouldnt have asked, ya know? You can use RED as a branding tool for the future and if a client needs 8k, then rent/charge accordingly. Most people still aren't delivering in 4k these days so I think you'll be good. The lowlight performance on the gemini, from what I've heard/seen is amazing (for red especially).
dude - that handle actually twists off. you dont have to take the whole handle off. it twists and the rubber potion pulls off. LOL
Hmmmmmm
@@justinburgan let me borrow yours so i can show you 😌😏😁
I look Red and Sony fs7 ,Im not sure this one good for me
I'm charging under 5k for the final VIDEO. which takes about a MONTH. Maybe I should move..
What kind of films are you making? It depends. Are you happy with where you are at in life.. personally and professionally. If not, how do you change that. 5k a video is pretty good. But let's break it down. 5x12 is 60. So lets assume you make 60k (gross) before paying assets, cameras, etc. Your net is probably going to be lower. I'd say a good goal is to try and net what you gross now. That's a good goal to have.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE:
40hrs a week (standard work week) times 4 weeks (4 weeks) in a month which equals 160hrs. 5,000 divided by 160 equals 31.25. Roughly, you are making $31 dollars an hour which is better than the average US citizen at about $26/hr. BUT you have to pay for ALL of your business costs. If you want to scare the hell out of yourself.. find out how much you pay monthly in taxes, gear, business expenses.. subtract that from your 5k and then divided by 160.... that's a scary number.
@@justinburgan haha! that IS a scary number. Thanks for taking the time to write back, I appreciate it! -- I make ads for small businesses. But I give them the strategy for the ad. I do everything, from writing, to location scouting, to filming, to editing, to picking the talent. That's why it takes a month (which I think is a little. I'd like to work on one video a year!!). Most of the month comprises of consultations, strategy development, writing, location scouting and test shooting, and then filming with is about 4-6 hrs a day for 3 days. I go for the organic look and opt out of getting acting cause it kills the ad in my opinion. Now I don't know if that's worth more or less in terms of pricing, but I definitely don't see too many people in my city doing it. What do you think? should I charge more or leave to somewhere more prosperous? (again I appreciate your time! :) )
@@ibrahimal-khalaf8008 Good on you bro! That sounds awesome, keep it up! We can always charge more. I'd try to increase your overall price every year. The thing that's helped my business drastically is breaking down all of my time and understanding how much I want to make hourly. So, I'd pick the least favorite thing you have to do.. meetings or writing or whatever you deem least favorite and say.. I want to make X amount of dollars hourly for that. Then calculate how many hours you are spending on all of these things. This will help give you a confident overall price. As far as talent goes.. Talent could help your ads.. I am not sure. That's up to you to make that decision.. but charge the client more for having in actors.. same as you would charge more for a camera, same is true for hiring talent, props, etc.
Any time bro! Please feel free to ask more questions, I am hoping to launch a Patreon later this year to have more tips like this :) Please feel free to ask more questions, I might have to make specific examples over there!
Cheers
@@justinburgan thanks man! it's definitely an endeavor. I'll keep chipping away, though :)
anyway to use an iPad or iPhone as a monitor for a 5k scarlet-w dragon?
Attach a Hollyland wireless transmitter to it and get wireless signal to iPad or iPhone
How much is the cost of the Red Scarlet W
Hello, so much apreciate your video, can i ask what lenses do you use for the x games
It’s not the camera it’s the person behind it
Awesome review. Enjoyed watching it .. . .. 👌
Thank you! :)
@@justinburgan With pleasure !
Audio is fine for a yt video. A quick video doesn't need a mixer lol.
still not convinced.
I think C500 MKii is better than red
I can't speak from experience as that camera is new and I havent used much of Canon's C line. Here's what I can tell you..
RED's Raw codec is hard to beat. It cuts like butter in post.
High speed frame rates are hard to beat.. I mean 4k 120.. come on.
Lastly, it's industry standard. All the RED lines are easy to match and work with. So as a freelancer, it opens up the possibilities of being hired.
Where I see the C500ii being good is for Auto Foucs.. but I'm using Cine lenses and Im old school and pull my own focus.
Canon colors have stood the test of time but I a not super impressed with their cine colors. I'd prefer, RED, Arri, or even BlackMagic in the Cinema space.
bro, flip the handle and it won't block the battery
You cant flip that handle due to the trigger record pins that need to line up that specific way.
Justin thanks, very very nice video!
Flip the handle the other way!! And it won't be in the way of the battery
Unfortunately because it has a trigger record, the pins don't line up properly if you flip the handle the other way :/
bro i own a red too and the biggest question is how do you keep your auto focus in check while operating solo???
I use the Tilta Nucleus M for follow focus. I pull manual focus 99% of the time. Red wasn't really built to be an auto focus camera!
The edge check is perfect on a 7 inch monitor. I assigned it to a thumb button on the handle and I can quickly toggle it.
Thanks for the info!
dope man
Go Gold mount or reverse the handle
I prefer V Mount. Cant flip the handle. Doesn't line up. Wooden Camera has a few solutions that I am looking into! Thanks.
Odly he is in a studio but the audio is bad , pls fix it my dude
Previous reply: "You're not wrong ;) Unfortunately I recorded this a while back and managed to swipe the external audio. So it's all camera internal. Glad you noticed and hold people to a higher standard!"
The pros : it's a good camera
The cons: it's $1500 worth of parts including the fucking $20 Msata drive
LMFAO
Turn the handle the other way
Unfortunately the screws don't line up correctly or I would ;)
used the scarlet a ton, its trash. Buy a dragon x or any other one of there cameras. Even the raven is much better
I'd like to jump to Gemini at some point! I don't think it's trash (not because it's mine or that I am bias) I have paired it perfectly with 8k Helium footage. Raven is not better in my book, doesn't allow you to use a full sensor size where at 5k on the red scarlet-w does!
If it's "trash", why do you "use it a ton"? Someone put a gun to your head? Like client DEMANDED you use a scarlet? Curious because I've been jamming with Dragons/Heliums and love the results, but can't afford 'em, so looking at the scarlet.
get gold mount
It would still have the same issue as it is a design issue on the RED camera's.The only battery that would work correctly are the RED Volt's. I prefer my compatibility with the V-Mount solution on not only my RED, but other products as well!
@@justinburgan Aw gotcha. Correct me if I'm wrong but gold mounts release to the side versus vertical so wouldln't that negate the blocking issue. I completely understand having v mounts for other products though. Maybe a transition in the future could be a thing. I know v mount to gold mount adapters are a thing. But yeah anyway I enjoyed this vid. Keep it up!
@@blankbrian You are correct! I just personally haven't bought into the system. Wooden Camera has 2-3 solutions for the top handle / battery solution. I decided to buy their Vmount extender. It not only puts the battery a tad further away from the camera but also drops it lower (flush with the bottom of the RED) so it allows me to continue to use the top handle shown in the video (i really love that top handle)
I plan to make an updated video soon on how I rig up my RED :) Thanks for the feedback!
my red camera only takes about 10-15 seconds to boot up... it shouldn't take a minute to boot up that longer than a computer boot up time and if the top handle is to low put something under the base to raise the top handle ... stop complaining
That's interesting. All my DP friends who have RED's say there's is 30-60 seconds as well. Not complaining, just stating honest facts! As far as raising the top handle, that negates the point of having a trigger record which can be crucial to have.. also because it has a trigger record the metal sensors interfere with mounting it any other way.
@@justinburgan wow i got two and mines fire up in about 7 to 10 seconds at the most
Hmm interesting, which models do you have?
I have the epic x and weapon dragon 6k