Should the Leverage Combo Get Nerfed? - Dead by Daylight

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  • @TheScreamMachine
    @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

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  • @EDgarAltar
    @EDgarAltar หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The way you narrate in this video strikes a great balance of being entertaining without going over the top. I really appreciate evenly keeled conversation!

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I've never really liked when people I watch over-exaggerate everything so I wanted my videos to be more natural, and I'm glad that other people like that style of video too.

  • @scaldinghotice
    @scaldinghotice หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Top Tier intro and explanation, I enjoyed the gamplay, too. Keep up the good work!

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you very much, and thanks for watching!

    • @HPLovesCraftsCat
      @HPLovesCraftsCat หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      my new favorite channel for sure

  • @Sephiroth_H2o
    @Sephiroth_H2o หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I just started playing again and dude you’re amazing! I like how you explain while playing the game, great insight.

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @MohammedPeterson
    @MohammedPeterson หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The nurse perk that show you healing survivor aura would be great with that

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It would be a great choice, for sure. I don't like running info on Singularity but on some other killers it would have a natural fit. I will say though that you don't need nurse's at all if they just heal under that hook though, which they'll have to if they have resurgence.

    • @IrohaOop
      @IrohaOop หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GoldenDeer_I believe you can since it shows Aura of lethal pursuer but not entirely sure

    • @frankwhite51
      @frankwhite51 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The robot can already place cameras all over the map. It doesn't need an aura reading. Part of the robot's non-camp camping is to place a camera after the hook and look through it when the unhook notification goes off.

  • @TenPacksOfRats
    @TenPacksOfRats หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This buff also buffed autodidact

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good point! Autodidact has always been a bit of a meme but it's actually pretty solid against this combo! I love the silliness of autodidact so I'm happy with any buffs it gets since it's really just not competitive.

  • @Lobi10879
    @Lobi10879 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This would be good except not by itself since it can be countered just by not healing especially when resilience/adrenaline is very common. Pain res pop you get value no matter what. But both combined together would be pretty cool cause now you have survivors staying injured longer and being punished for trying to reset.

  • @nonvolt
    @nonvolt หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    No, don't nerf.. it's fun

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hopefully it doesn't get nerfed!

    • @sinastir7688
      @sinastir7688 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's inevitably going to be nerfed like anything else that is strong.

  • @TerraPlayOMG
    @TerraPlayOMG หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That Rapid brutality value, need to prestige my xeno to play Singu more comfy

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Definitely go for it. Rapid is such a strong perk.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @EnigmaEcho42
      @EnigmaEcho42 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Honestly there is a noticeable difference if I don’t run it.

  • @PreorderBonus1
    @PreorderBonus1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This build will be even better once the Houndmaster is released, and we get her perk that transforms normal hooks into Scourge Hooks

  • @crossagento3961
    @crossagento3961 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Big thing I’ve seen lately is a lot of survivors just heal under hook, which just makes this perk combo really strong. If they run away and find a safer spot, yes the heal takes longer, but leverage’s effect has already regressed, making the heal a bit quicker.
    Then again, Nurse’s Calling

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't forget that if survivors run away from the hook, any time they spend running is effectively added to the healing time. i.e. if they had just committed to the heal under the hook, they would have finished the heal 10 seconds earlier if they spent 10 seconds running away. And if they wait out leverage? That means they waited 30 seconds, so the same concept applies, and if you find them during that time you have a guaranteed down on that injured survivor.

  • @themuggle7071
    @themuggle7071 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The problem with this combo is good survivors will just go do a gen instead of healing.
    That's not really what you want considering you've used 2 slots for it.
    This perk combo is only good on killers like Oni or Dredge where your power benefits from people being injured.

    • @jb_charisma
      @jb_charisma หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s not a problem because as a good killer you’re going to be guarding gens eitherway and it’s beneficial to killer that survivors don’t heal, less chase time

    • @themuggle7071
      @themuggle7071 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ "A good killer will be guarding gens" no a decent killer will be guarding gens. A good killer knows that guarding gens gets you nowhere against a good team.
      Your just slowing down gen progress but getting no reward.
      This perk combo is only useful for tunnelling, but there's better perks for that if you wanna go that route.
      These perks only work against solo q and low mmr swfs. Which at that point you don't even need a build to win.
      Maybe take off leverage then slap on PR or Pop. You'll get more value with those perks.

    • @jb_charisma
      @jb_charisma หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ you don’t know what you’re talking about. being down a health state and having other teammates also down a health state just leaves you vulnerable for slugging. saying a killer isn’t good for gen defense is like saying a killer is bad for doing the basic thing they’re supposed to be doing during a match, which is stopping the survivors from doing gens and killing

    • @themuggle7071
      @themuggle7071 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jb_charisma Man really used the you dont know what your talking about card.🤣
      This perk combo is only good for tunnelling, outside of specific killers.
      Since it only effects people that just got off hook.
      So if you want to tunnel then i guess it can be useful.
      Each to their own i guess.
      This will not be the new meta outside of specific killers.

    • @MistarZtv
      @MistarZtv หลายเดือนก่อน

      while on paper thats true, apart of why this works with singularity is just how threatning the singularity is when it comes to his ability to snowball, so several injured survivors running around can quickly turn sideways because signularity can play around vaults an dpallets easlily

  • @bobanderson9027
    @bobanderson9027 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I rather this than gen regression/slow downs. Killers are still running pain resonance and Pop every game wow so fun. 😴. This is easily beaten by instant heals and perks like auto didact (which is very strong against these anti heal builds). This is actually interesting because it's new and trending but also isn't a problem for people who can play just fine while injured. Actually I hope this helps encourage survivors to learn how to play while injured instead of hiding til they get healed.

    • @CaptToilet
      @CaptToilet หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ask yourself why killers feel the need to run gen regression and slowdown. Once you get that answer then it will become clear.

  • @CaptToilet
    @CaptToilet หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn Larry looking like a cosmic body horror fiend.

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptToilet We're gonna get a "the Thing" chapter one day, and I can't wait.

  • @y0rrzu971
    @y0rrzu971 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    only downside to this is having to waste money or shards on that shit show merchant then prestige her. or wait until that perk is in the shrine💀

    • @lukasVGL
      @lukasVGL หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Skull merchant also has Game afoot, which is useful for obsession challenges and is fun with rancor
      and THWACK! has been recently buffed
      she costs 4 500 shards which is 1 500 shards cheaper than buying those perks off the shrine

    • @y0rrzu971
      @y0rrzu971 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ she promotes 3 gen shes a shit killer. if i was low mmr i would maybe think about trying her but theres no point i get good survivors with brains so shes not gonna work

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You're right, but at least all 3 of her perks are fun and decent now. Hopefully her millionth rework makes her more fun.

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoldenDeer_ How do you feel about the recent SM nerfs? Does she still feel good or even playable to you? I've tried her a few games since and they were just miserable to me. Losing a scan line is just so brutal.

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GoldenDeer_ Thank you for your input! Hopefully SM comes out of the next rework in the best shape she's ever been in. Also, I'd love to watch a game or two of what a typical SM game looks like for you if you want to put them on your channel. I'm always looking to improve on my weaker killers.

  • @MistarZtv
    @MistarZtv หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yeah the hatch in eyerie shacks always spawns inside if theres no gen in there.

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MistarZtv A mistake I won't make twice.

  • @crunchycakegaming1507
    @crunchycakegaming1507 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    just wait until the new scourge hook perk comes out, it makes it so floods of rage and gift of pain always activate last i checked

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm looking forward to playing around with it and maybe making a video on it, in fact!

  • @ThatChadWithTheAnchorArms
    @ThatChadWithTheAnchorArms หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THIS SINGULARITY SKIN LOOKS AWESOME!

  • @YeenQueenTTV
    @YeenQueenTTV หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Now imagine when the New Jagged Compass scourge perk goes live, and you can just constantly make your own new scourge hooks...

    • @vibe6223
      @vibe6223 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've heard that on unhook effects of other scourge perks like gift of pain or floods of rage happen after the hook becomes a scourge hook, basically meaning that every hook will give you the effects of gift of pain or floods of rage if you're running jagged compass.

    • @YeenQueenTTV
      @YeenQueenTTV หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vibe6223 Wait, REALLY??? Oh shit, I'm tempted to fire up the PTB and test that. LOL For science!

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm waiting until the perks hit live before playing around with them, but I'm planning on doing some testing and possibly making a video on it. Stay tuned!

  • @aerco7110
    @aerco7110 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On Erie of Crows and I think some other map the hatch spawn is on the inside

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, you're definitely right, I just don't know which ones that applies to by memory yet.

    • @alexisbordeleau858
      @alexisbordeleau858 หลายเดือนก่อน

      + Garden of joy

  • @jerrylthesekar4668
    @jerrylthesekar4668 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find myself frustrated by this combo, personally, so I've taken it upon myself to be Super Jeff in my soloqueue games, and run Autodidact or For the People and Plot Twist. Using Autodidact/For The People, I can bypass the slowness of Gift of Leverage by instantly healing the target. In Autodidact's case, the slowness of the meter is beneficial - more skill checks, I will usually get 3 tokens on my first unhook/heal with this combo, leaving middle game to end game to unhook and heal within less time than a totally normal heal. With for the People, I can safely remove my own Gift of Pain if I had already been healed on unhook using using Plot Twist (to bypass the healing speed debuff and free up a survivor's time to do gens, take chases, etc). Alternatively, you can also run steve's perk Second Wind instead of Plot Twist, as long as you're not suffering from the deliverance curse.
    This gives you 2 free slots to run whatever perks you feel benefit you most. Windows and Lithe? Sprint Burst and Vigil? Made for This and Dead Hard? It's not like Autodidact, Plot Twist, Second Wind, and For the People stop being good if the killer isn't running anti-heal either, having a dedicated healer on the team capable of taking care of others and themselves very quickly is always good I find in my experiences.

  • @brucelin8950
    @brucelin8950 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In fact, no need to nerf. There are way more OP fast heal perks to counter this.

  • @EnigmaEcho42
    @EnigmaEcho42 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I typically use Dying Light in my build. The more i hook the more the other survivors have gen slow down. If I get 8 hooks that’s 24% reduction other actions.
    Rapid brutality is a must on Hux.
    I lov the anti heal part of this build

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The more I play DBD, the more I pull away from Dying light. By the time you hit max reduction, you've already gotten so far ahead that you likely don't need the perk. Not to mention that you only get stacks from hooking the non-obsessions and the perk doesn't affect the obsession, so you're realistically going to get a max of 9 stacks per game. Add on the fact that you're buffing the obsession (who is typically the player running DS and likely one of the most skilled players on the team) and the perk just doesn't hold up. Perks should help you when you're weakest, not when you're at your strongest.

    • @EnigmaEcho42
      @EnigmaEcho42 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheScreamMachineI actually have been running hex devour, rapid and sloppy butcher. My slowdown is deadlock until I get gift of pain 😊

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EnigmaEcho42 That's a solid build. When you get gift of pain you could consider replacing sloppy with it but either work.

  • @HPLovesCraftsCat
    @HPLovesCraftsCat หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i wonder how this would look on dracula

  • @Las3Ms_
    @Las3Ms_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Singu was made to be played by the Best Machine, you Scream!

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! He's a lot of fun.

  • @SeeNogDBDYT
    @SeeNogDBDYT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Scream, how do I stop a single Larry from running over my soloq team?

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SeeNogDBDYT Take him out to a nice dinner and share your hatred of humanity to woo him over. Then your team will lose to a Larry in a relationship.
      All jokes aside, lack of proper communication on solo-q makes him a pub stomper. You beat Singularity in a game of attrition, making sure you always have a emp and forcing him to physically run to gens instead of being able to teleport. It'll be tough to coordinate that in solo-q, but you could be partially on emp duty, and focus on disabling key pods in the walk ways between high traffic areas, as those are his most important pods.

    • @SeeNogDBDYT
      @SeeNogDBDYT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @TheScreamMachine but if I dated Single Larry... then he wouldn't...be... single...Larry anymore... 🤯

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SeeNogDBDYT Killer Mains HATE This One Trick!!

  • @lukasVGL
    @lukasVGL หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:35 idk where you got the numbers from, but mangled applies a 20% reduction to healing speed, not 25%
    Correct values:
    Healing with mangled = 20 seconds
    Healing with leverage and mangled = 40 seconds
    Healing with leverage, mangled and gift of pain = 47,6 seconds

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, you're right, I read increasing healing time by 25% as reducing healing speed by 25%, good catch. In my own defense though, the official wiki had it wrong in their example too. deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Dead_by_Daylight_Maths

    • @Kazrain973
      @Kazrain973 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's in the tooltip of mangled "increase time required to heal by 25 %"

    • @lukasVGL
      @lukasVGL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Kazrain973 Yes it increases time required to heal by 25%, by reducing the healing speed by 20%. Healing speed and time to heal are two different things

    • @lukasVGL
      @lukasVGL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheScreamMachine oh lmao, somebody should fix that haha

  • @MistarZtv
    @MistarZtv หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is this cosmetic set from?

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MistarZtv It's the head of the recent pinball set mixed with the mossy recolor of his base cosmetic. Looks good, eh?

  • @Ashy_Slashy3
    @Ashy_Slashy3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish it was the new meta

  • @a105-s9d
    @a105-s9d หลายเดือนก่อน

    short answer no...any slowdown that isn't gen regression is always better

  • @Clown_the_Clown
    @Clown_the_Clown หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nah, it doesn't need a nerf

  • @cjames9320
    @cjames9320 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im short, no.
    We can't discuss nerfing killers until we remove gen regress limits

  • @illchangethislater7936
    @illchangethislater7936 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That skin is horrifying

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love that head piece so much.

  • @RancorLGR13
    @RancorLGR13 หลายเดือนก่อน

    at this point either accept that killer or survs need a meta or nerf and destroy all fun at all in this not even fun to have game.. (oh boy i love being hated again)

  • @TheGhostFaceCamper
    @TheGhostFaceCamper หลายเดือนก่อน

    Short answer: No. Long answer BVHR has no clue what they are doing so possibly.

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheGhostFaceCamper They've actually improved a lot in the last few years.

  • @scorchedevil9669
    @scorchedevil9669 หลายเดือนก่อน

    should it get nerfed? no

  • @Insanity-vv9nn
    @Insanity-vv9nn หลายเดือนก่อน

    That one perk that heals you 70% when you’re unhooked already makes any antiheal useless. Leverage doesn’t change anything if the survivor have we’ll make it

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Doing some quick math, if the hooked survivor has resurgence and the unhooker has we'll make it, the heal will take approximately 11.53 seconds against the combo. That means that even if survivors spend 2 perk slots just to counter your build, you'll still have more than 10 seconds to interrupt that heal and waste both of them. Not to mention if they don't have we'll make it, the sloppy butcher effect from gift of pain forces the unhooker to quickly commit to a heal as that 70% will hit 0% quickly otherwise, making both of them more vulnerable to you. I think the combo is actually quite strong against resurgence.

  • @worm11112
    @worm11112 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no, antiheal hasnt been great in recent times and you need to dedicate 2 perks to do this it doesnt need a nerf and i wouldnt really even call it meta cause again antiheal hasnt been that great survivors have more options to heal and the antiheal perks got worse

  • @declan_dimitrescu6285
    @declan_dimitrescu6285 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Auto Didact completely.shuts this down now so this sucks

    • @TheScreamMachine
      @TheScreamMachine  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Luckily for us, autodidact is a meme which actively harms most people who use it, so you'll likely never see it.

  • @JakeBachtell
    @JakeBachtell หลายเดือนก่อน

    Resilience, DH…. GG