Drain your filter when your tank is bellow 1/4 tank!!!!! Works every time for me. No mess, and very little comes out!!! I used to drain a ton when the tank had more fuel in it.
Just rolled over 15,000 miles on my 22 F350. Watching and reading all the problems with changing these fuel filters I nearly panicked and took it to the stealership! After watching this vid I decided to gather up plenty of tubs to capture what I feared to be gallons and gallons of fuel and try it myself anyway. Easy peasy! Only drained a total of about 1/2 gallon of fuel and was able to change both upper and lower filters with no mess whatsoever. Fuel tank was at 1/4 when I did it so that may have helped.
Hey man, good job. Now you know what to expect. Keep a lid on your fuel tub, use it for your oil too. Watch our 6.7 oil change video, you'll be surprised how simple that is tool
Always done it this way, not for this reason, I’ve always threw a drain pan under this filter and opened the drain. Then went to the underhood filter and changed it while it drained. When I get back to this filter it’s usually not much fuel in the drain pan by the time it stops dripping. I guess that’s why I never understood the complaints about it constantly draining.
This does not work on my 2022. I usually drain once a month or so and it usually lets out about 1/2 gallon and stops. This time it didn't stop at 2 gallons so I tried this.
Yep, always, always..ALWAYS change the one in the engine bay first and by the time you get that buttoned back up the one under the bed only drains the filter itself...maybe a cup full or so....
Hey Arod. Appreciate you showing us this. Hate that it ran down your arm. I’ve been lucky I guess, my ‘19 has never really drained more than a half gallon. Glad to know this though 💪🏼. Thx!
Mine drained forever last week, before it finally stopped! The worst part is that return fuel line on the upper filter snapped off in my hand while I was changing it. Being super careful and gentle when I was releasing it and it still broke right off! H&S Motorsports kit fixed that permanently. Thanks for the great idea on the lower!!
I do what A Rod does with the following twist. I just loosen 8 mm bolts so they are still caged preventing the filter from falling completely off full of fuel… with the sump twisted open and wiggle a bit to break seal so I don’t get the waterfall effect …then it will drain out “normal” and finish draining…then I remove the filter from housing with no bath. But I get it “time is money” - he ripped the band aid off! Nice vid to a vexing dilemma!
Leave the Petcock open and loosen the 2 screws on the opposite side it will break the vacuum and drain right out. Had that problem before? No more mess!
I know this an older video but last time I did my filters I noticed that the guard for the filter housing rubs on the wires for the wif sensor. Had to retape it before rubbed through. Just something to watch for while your down there anyways. Good vid as always.
What I find works for me is changing the secondary filter forster, unscrewing the two bolts by the water drain then open it, and unscrew the middle bolt. It drains out in just a few minutes!
I usually open the drain, then immediately start backing out the bolts to loosen the lid, then slowly pull it down until it breaks the vacuum seal. Just slowly keep backing the bolts out little at a time till you get the seal broken. No mess in a 5 gallon bucket.
This is one of those situations where you can’t be scured to get a little dirty. The more you try to stay clean, the dirtier you end up getting. Embrace the fact that you get to bath in fluid that costs $6.00 a gallon. I’m developing a new fragrance line, it’s called Diezel by A-rod.
My 2017 service manual says to disconnect the fuel line on top of the fuel tank first. I looked up there, or I tried to, to see which line was which. I had a difficult time even seeing up there. I don't know that I could get my hands up there to disconnect the line. I have the 48 gallon tank. As challenging as some of the fuel line connectors are, I'm not sure I could do it in such an enclosed space. So I bailed on what Ford said. With the fuel level well below 1/4, I opened the drain valve and got about 2 quarts. Major relief! I got just a bit more when I dropped the filter, but not more than another cup. I'll admit that I was scared to DIY this. So much so that I let Ford do it the first time. I'll save $300 from now on.
I was attempting to drain the fuel/water separator on my dump truck in order to replace the filter and the fuel just kept coming. I called a friend who told me to remove the fuel cap in order to stop the siphon. It worked. So now I start with removing the cap.
I just did my oil change tonight...the filter, I thought had one more revolution of thread on it...nope...oh yeah mama...diesel filter splashed into pan #1, and splatter ALL over the floor, me, and drivers side frame. Am I complaining, hell no!! LOVE my 6.7!!!
I always if possible do the filter change on any year model cold if possible! First I remove fuel cape then start drain of primary filter this almost always works and it only drains about a quart! If that doesn’t do it close drain valve on filter and break seal on filter housing then open drain and it will only drain a small amount then you can remove housing and Chang filter. It always works for me
I’m a lube tech at a pretty decent size company in Florida and I love the 67 don’t care for ford but I absolutely love the 67 so when I get one in for service I make SURE the service writes asks if the fuel filters have been changed, long story short I sell alot of fuel filters. In all the ones I’ve done I’ve never had one drain that much fuel they spill out alot but never 5 gallons so for me I let it drain while I drain the oil and filter and gather all my stuff to complete the service. I get not everyone is in the same situation but that’s what I do I just wait it out.
If in the driveway, try to park with the front of the truck a little uphill/higher of the rear. I have found it drains the lines to the motor and not any from the tank. About a gallon or 2, less waste.
I let my truck sit over night , less than a quart comes out . It was a full tank as well . Last time I changed them , the truck sat for 2 days . I know not everyone can do it this way , I just time it so I can let it sit at least over night then change the filters .
I’ve had the best luck maximizing my time this way(this is assuming you are changing the oil and the front fuel filter as well): 1.) open the rear fuel drain (let it drain) “set it and forget it” 2.) start oil change (remove oil drain plug and oil filter) and let oil drain “set it and forget it” lol 3.) if rear fuel filter housing is done draining, remove and replace rear fuel filter (if not finished draining, skip to step 4 and allow to continue draining) 4.) remove and replace front fuel filter (once complete, if you skipped step 3 bc rear fuel filter was still draining then return back to step 3) 5.) Install oil filter and oil drain plug, then fill with oil 6.) prime fuel system with power to ignition (but not starting engine) roughly 4-6 times 7.) double check for no leakage (oil and fuel) You are ready to rip 💪👍 this will maximize your time and get you onto your next job or back to your ice cold beer in no time. Keep up the great vids ARod 💪💪
pop off lines on upper filter then open valve on bottom one and come back the next morning is my plan of attack! hide the key fob and leave the hood up for a reminder.
First time I changed my filters on my 2022 it drained forever, 5+ gallons, thought something was wrong. Now with the HS Motorsports kit that you showed on the previous videos I don't have to worry about this BS anymore.
So far, my '17 F350 only take s a few minutes to drain, regardless of fuel level or orientation in the driveway. Obviously not doubting anyone else, as evident by this video, it is an issue for some. Thanks ARod, 3-knocks on wood my 'Duty keeps me clean and non-diesel scented during FF servicing.
For some reason my 2020 didn’t come with an owners manual. So if I understand you, you take a file line off on top of the tank first? Then start the draining process? Can you tell me approx location of that line? Thxs
If u put ur face on the side of the lower fuel filter housing that faces forward....look stright up on that filter housing box...ull see a line right there...
Thanks. What I don’t understand is that sometimes only a quart drains out and other times it never stops draining. I have tried opening the gas cap and popping the connectors on the upper filter. I heard that if you let the truck run a few minutes, then drain??? Why is this so darn hard?
Terry I had the same experience one time and once it filled about 1/2 of a 5 gallon bucket I knew something wasn’t right. So I stopped and started some online research. What I have found that works best for me is to start the drain and then start loosening a couple of the 8mm bolts to break that seal. There appears to some sort of suction and once the seal is broken it works as expected. Give it a try and see if it works for you.
My remedy is to trade it for a 7.3 gasser. No emissions stuff. No ruined shirts with diesel fuel all over em. No worrying about the fuel system imploding. I love how my 6.7 pulls, but enough is enough.
My 12 will drain for days seems like. I don’t drain. I just use a big bucket, unscrew it and dump. It stops at maybe a qt of fuel and I add the new filter and put it back together.
I'm hoping that they hired the genius that came up with that mess AFTER they stopped producing 7.3 trucks. I certainly don't want that on any of my vehicles! Shame on the mess! And FWIW, I have a large plastic tote I use for draining anything I want to save, whether it's ATF, coolant or whatever. I clean it out real good and keep it covered. Especially if it's full of coolant so I won't worry about my dogs drinking it.
If you can not afford to have basic service work done on your vehicle, you just need to stop working....the 6.7 has been damn near perfect since the 7.3... Wake up....
@@johnt6673 What in the world does being able to afford basic service on your vehicle have to do with my comment? My comment is about the way this filtration system is designed as it certainly not service friendly no matter who is doing the work. And just because I choose to drive older trucks instead of paying $80K for a new one is my personal choice. I choose to do my own service because I can and it saves me $$$ at the same time.
Doesn't opening the fuel cap release the vacuum and keep all the fuel from coming out? Also, like someone else said, change when less than a.quarter of a tank.
Wait, those things waste five GALLONS when they get drained? Jesus! I am not letting my dealer do it any more. I'll put a 5gal jug under it and use the old fuel for fire starter! Also, I thought that was a water-separator? Am I wrong?
I have changed mine twice and only got about a half a gallon. Geesh, I hope I don't get one that drains that much. Was the fuel tank fill cap on or not tight ?
That looked like about $60 worth of diesel that went down the drain, that’s the unfortunate part of fords design on this filter setup. When I changed mine last I was fortunate enough that it actually drained quickly and got down to a small trickle and I was able to get it done without wearing fuel for cologne. Although I don’t mind the smell of diesel I don’t like it that much.
Make sure the fuel cap is on and tank is low. It’s not supposed to siphon according to the manual unless you take the cap off. I’ve never had more than the amount the filter holds. I also don’t let the drain plug open full at first to break the connection to the fuel in the tank then let er rip.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I did, that’s why I brought to everyone’s attention🙂. Page 383 for the 6.7 section of maintenance for the fuel conditioning module and filter in the 2020 Superduty owners manual it states “For 2017 models disconnect the fuel line quick disconnect coupling from the in tank fuel pump. For 2018 and later, skip this step but ensure the fuel filler cap is closed before draining the filter. Failure to close the filler cap results in the siphoning of the entire fuel tank contents when you open the drain screw.
The last fuel filter change I done on my 250 did just what you described. It siphoned a lot of fuel out of the tank and wouldn't stop until i unscrewed the bottom on the separator housing. This of course gives you a nasty fuel bath. Bad part was the Motorcraft filter swelled up and i couldn't get the bottom cover to pull the cartridge out. I pryed down on the cover then it let go of the filter. The filter had to be drug out of the upper plastic housing with vise grips. I change my filters every 15k so i dont know why it did this. Very odd
My first change on my 2019 did the same thing. The filter would not come out of the housing so I took it to a mechanic before I broke something and he wound up breaking the housing. He was able to get a new housing and finish the filter change. All in all, it cost me $300 to change the lower filter. Should have gone ahead and installed the after market CAT filter I've been seeing/
The thing is some do that and some dont....it really makes no sense at all. Probably has something to do with the amount of fuel in the tank....?And how about when the filter gets stuck in there? Ever ran across that?
Or you can wait until the tank is less than 1/4 and avoid all this mess. I learned the hard way the first time I did it when the tank was almost full and it didn’t stop draining. Now I wait until the tank is almost empty, only a small amount drains out (probably 2-3 quarts) and no more mess or wasted diesel.
Been through 6 changes on my 2022. Never had the drain problem. No offense meant just my ignorance. I drain rear filter. While it drains i crack the top lines and swap it. By then bottom one is drained. Usually just what was in the housing. Who knows
If there’s no way to Have a low fuel level, just open that drain and go find something else to do on your vehicle service. Plan to change that filter first, so you’re not waiting forever for that to drain. Maximize your time.
Ok here I come with the money questions. If you put a aftermarket fuel filter on the bottom how do you stop it from draining after you spin off the filter?
S&S just did a disaster video-the cause…..after market (metal can) fuel filters rusting due to water in diesel. I’ll stick with OEM plastic filters and deal with it.
That’s exactly right. My first time I changed my filter I had a full tank of fuel and it siphoned 5 gallons before I closed the valve and waited till 1/4 tank or less and problem solved
It keeps draining diesel cause that truck is equipped with additional fuel tank. Close the valve from additional fuel tank during filter replacement. Just don't forget to open the valve 😎
I use to manage the shop of a fleet with over 200 units of superduty 6.7 , in my experience it drains just when auxiliary tank stays higher then frame. Dodge Ram got different problem with auxiliary tank
Astounding to me how Ford managed to make the fuel filter an even bigger pain in the ass every generation of truck. I thought my 2008 had a stupid design with the filter being inside the frame so you get a face full of fuel every single time, but this one is way worse. I hate changing these filters on the trucks at my work.
Will the HSM lower fuel filter kit prevent so much of a loss of fuel when the filter is changed? Also it looks like it will be less of a mess to change that HSM lower fuel filter vs a factory fuel filter. Is my assumption correct?
I always drain the bottom filter with whatever fuel is in the tank full or empty first, I then do the top filter and never lose more than 1/4 gallon of gas. If you remove the top and then the bottom you are going to drain your tank. I have changed my filters about 4 times already on my 18 dually on my back because I don't have a lift. This video certainly isn't your best moment I've watched so far. I look like a pro compared to this video lol.
I know this comment will likely get laughed at and ridiculed but with today's diesel prices Is there any way of reusing this fuel by draining it into a clean catch container... Returning it back to the fuel tank it's gonna go back through the new fuel filter anyway and if it really is that much fuel maybe after a minute or so of draining that the remainder would be safe to return to the fuel tank, just say'n!!!
I know not everyone has the option but, I save and use it in my tractor since it is less sensitive to "dirty" fuel. I also save the oil for smudge pots, you can add the drained fuel to that oil too.
If you don't pull 12k plus pounds, ie dont really "need" the 6.7L diesel...this is another reason to buy the 7.3L godzilla. No fuel filter. Maintenance is cheaper & easier.
Drain your filter when your tank is bellow 1/4 tank!!!!! Works every time for me. No mess, and very little comes out!!! I used to drain a ton when the tank had more fuel in it.
That plus doing the engine bay one first. Maybe lost a quart or so...
This is the video I did see that addressed siphoning fuel from the tank that saved me. Thanks for another great video.
Makes me appreciate the 11-16 design
X2!
got mine still. I'm at 322,000 miles, it's a 2013 model and running smooth
I totally agree!!! My 2015 is way easier.
ARod, won’t it stop the syphoning if you disconnect the fuel line on top of the fuel conditioner housing?
It will but most of the guys cant figure out how to remove em
Just rolled over 15,000 miles on my 22 F350. Watching and reading all the problems with changing these fuel filters I nearly panicked and took it to the stealership! After watching this vid I decided to gather up plenty of tubs to capture what I feared to be gallons and gallons of fuel and try it myself anyway. Easy peasy! Only drained a total of about 1/2 gallon of fuel and was able to change both upper and lower filters with no mess whatsoever. Fuel tank was at 1/4 when I did it so that may have helped.
Hey man, good job. Now you know what to expect. Keep a lid on your fuel tub, use it for your oil too. Watch our 6.7 oil change video, you'll be surprised how simple that is tool
I mentioned this before, take the top filter under hood off first, it breaks the siphon, you will only drain about a quart
Always done it this way, not for this reason, I’ve always threw a drain pan under this filter and opened the drain. Then went to the underhood filter and changed it while it drained. When I get back to this filter it’s usually not much fuel in the drain pan by the time it stops dripping. I guess that’s why I never understood the complaints about it constantly draining.
This does not work on my 2022. I usually drain once a month or so and it usually lets out about 1/2 gallon and stops. This time it didn't stop at 2 gallons so I tried this.
Yep, always, always..ALWAYS change the one in the engine bay first and by the time you get that buttoned back up the one under the bed only drains the filter itself...maybe a cup full or so....
Just did my fuel filters 2 days ago on my 21 and had less than a gallon drain out. Feel fortunate after watching this video.
Great video ARod. Breaking that seal has been the solution for me and I do it while it is draining and it works great.
As always another great informative video! Thanks for all you do making your videos and look forward to seeing your next video!
Hey Arod. Appreciate you showing us this. Hate that it ran down your arm. I’ve been lucky I guess, my ‘19 has never really drained more than a half gallon. Glad to know this though 💪🏼. Thx!
Great design by ford. Excellence
Mine drained forever last week, before it finally stopped! The worst part is that return fuel line on the upper filter snapped off in my hand while I was changing it. Being super careful and gentle when I was releasing it and it still broke right off! H&S Motorsports kit fixed that permanently. Thanks for the great idea on the lower!!
Some do it, some dont. I dont care, they all get done the same
I do what A Rod does with the following twist. I just loosen 8 mm bolts so they are still caged preventing the filter from falling completely off full of fuel… with the sump twisted open and wiggle a bit to break seal so I don’t get the waterfall effect …then it will drain out “normal” and finish draining…then I remove the filter from housing with no bath. But I get it “time is money” - he ripped the band aid off! Nice vid to a vexing dilemma!
Woooowoooo
Leave the Petcock open and loosen the 2 screws on the opposite side it will break the vacuum and drain right out. Had that problem before? No more mess!
I know this an older video but last time I did my filters I noticed that the guard for the filter housing rubs on the wires for the wif sensor. Had to retape it before rubbed through. Just something to watch for while your down there anyways. Good vid as always.
What I find works for me is changing the secondary filter forster, unscrewing the two bolts by the water drain then open it, and unscrew the middle bolt. It drains out in just a few minutes!
I usually open the drain, then immediately start backing out the bolts to loosen the lid, then slowly pull it down until it breaks the vacuum seal. Just slowly keep backing the bolts out little at a time till you get the seal broken. No mess in a 5 gallon bucket.
This is one of those situations where you can’t be scured to get a little dirty. The more you try to stay clean, the dirtier you end up getting. Embrace the fact that you get to bath in fluid that costs $6.00 a gallon. I’m developing a new fragrance line, it’s called Diezel by A-rod.
Coming to a PSD barber shop near you!!!
My 2017 service manual says to disconnect the fuel line on top of the fuel tank first. I looked up there, or I tried to, to see which line was which. I had a difficult time even seeing up there. I don't know that I could get my hands up there to disconnect the line. I have the 48 gallon tank. As challenging as some of the fuel line connectors are, I'm not sure I could do it in such an enclosed space. So I bailed on what Ford said. With the fuel level well below 1/4, I opened the drain valve and got about 2 quarts. Major relief! I got just a bit more when I dropped the filter, but not more than another cup. I'll admit that I was scared to DIY this. So much so that I let Ford do it the first time. I'll save $300 from now on.
Try disconnecting the lines off the top filter 1st
I was attempting to drain the fuel/water separator on my dump truck in order to replace the filter and the fuel just kept coming. I called a friend who told me to remove the fuel cap in order to stop the siphon. It worked. So now I start with removing the cap.
Can style filter and water separator from the factory would be nice
Wow 😮
I’m am glad mine is a 2011
I just did my oil change tonight...the filter, I thought had one more revolution of thread on it...nope...oh yeah mama...diesel filter splashed into pan #1, and splatter ALL over the floor, me, and drivers side frame. Am I complaining, hell no!! LOVE my 6.7!!!
😂😂😂😝😝😝🫂🫂🫂🫂
I always if possible do the filter change on any year model cold if possible! First I remove fuel cape then start drain of primary filter this almost always works and it only drains about a quart! If that doesn’t do it close drain valve on filter and break seal on filter housing then open drain and it will only drain a small amount then you can remove housing and Chang filter. It always works for me
I’m a lube tech at a pretty decent size company in Florida and I love the 67 don’t care for ford but I absolutely love the 67 so when I get one in for service I make SURE the service writes asks if the fuel filters have been changed, long story short I sell alot of fuel filters. In all the ones I’ve done I’ve never had one drain that much fuel they spill out alot but never 5 gallons so for me I let it drain while I drain the oil and filter and gather all my stuff to complete the service. I get not everyone is in the same situation but that’s what I do I just wait it out.
Very nice explanation, blessings
Yep it's just siphoning out of the tank. I put the front up on ramps and face the vehicle up hill slightly.
Man, there isn't any better fragrance than Ode La Diesel!!...put some behind the ear women go mad about that!!😁😜😝
😝😝😝😝😝😝
Thanks for sharing ARod a good video
If in the driveway, try to park with the front of the truck a little uphill/higher of the rear. I have found it drains the lines to the motor and not any from the tank. About a gallon or 2, less waste.
I always change the under hood filer first. Never had more than a quart drain out.
Yep let it roll.
I'm definitely doing a H&S lower filter, not a fan of messing with that ford filter.
I let my truck sit over night , less than a quart comes out .
It was a full tank as well .
Last time I changed them , the truck sat for 2 days .
I know not everyone can do it this way , I just time it so I can let it sit at least over night then change the filters .
A great technique that I found that is virtually nastiness free is continue running a 7.3 powerstroke LOL
Yea big double NO
I’ve had the best luck maximizing my time this way(this is assuming you are changing the oil and the front fuel filter as well):
1.) open the rear fuel drain (let it drain) “set it and forget it”
2.) start oil change (remove oil drain plug and oil filter) and let oil drain “set it and forget it” lol
3.) if rear fuel filter housing is done draining, remove and replace rear fuel filter (if not finished draining, skip to step 4 and allow to continue draining)
4.) remove and replace front fuel filter (once complete, if you skipped step 3 bc rear fuel filter was still draining then return back to step 3)
5.) Install oil filter and oil drain plug, then fill with oil
6.) prime fuel system with power to ignition (but not starting engine) roughly 4-6 times
7.) double check for no leakage (oil and fuel)
You are ready to rip 💪👍 this will maximize your time and get you onto your next job or back to your ice cold beer in no time.
Keep up the great vids ARod 💪💪
pop off lines on upper filter then open valve on bottom one and come back the next morning is my plan of attack! hide the key fob and leave the hood up for a reminder.
I just did one on a f550 with it between the tank and axle. On the floor.. 😂
Like pulling off a Band-Aid, swift and messy.
....i'll pull your band aid off.
First time I changed my filters on my 2022 it drained forever, 5+ gallons, thought something was wrong. Now with the HS Motorsports kit that you showed on the previous videos I don't have to worry about this BS anymore.
No doubt🤙🤙🤙
HSM for the win
Hey buddy!
I find it helpful to tie rags around my wrist… so as diesel splashes on my arms they get soaked up by the rags…just a idea
So far, my '17 F350 only take s a few minutes to drain, regardless of fuel level or orientation in the driveway. Obviously not doubting anyone else, as evident by this video, it is an issue for some. Thanks ARod, 3-knocks on wood my 'Duty keeps me clean and non-diesel scented during FF servicing.
Ya, for sure. My 2023 only drained about the same and none down my arm.
I just take the line off the top of the fuel tank, the one the owners manual says to do, and it drains less than a quart.🤑
Some people frrrreak out with those quick disconnects
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod my truck is so tall I can sit underneath and see what I'm doing. Just use a pick tool. Gotta do it this weekend actually
For some reason my 2020 didn’t come with an owners manual. So if I understand you, you take a file line off on top of the tank first? Then start the draining process? Can you tell me approx location of that line? Thxs
If u put ur face on the side of the lower fuel filter housing that faces forward....look stright up on that filter housing box...ull see a line right there...
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks man. Appreciate the info! Love your videos, keep up the good work.
Thanks. What I don’t understand is that sometimes only a quart drains out and other times it never stops draining. I have tried opening the gas cap and popping the connectors on the upper filter. I heard that if you let the truck run a few minutes, then drain??? Why is this so darn hard?
Terry I had the same experience one time and once it filled about 1/2 of a 5 gallon bucket I knew something wasn’t right. So I stopped and started some online research. What I have found that works best for me is to start the drain and then start loosening a couple of the 8mm bolts to break that seal. There appears to some sort of suction and once the seal is broken it works as expected. Give it a try and see if it works for you.
My remedy is to trade it for a 7.3 gasser. No emissions stuff. No ruined shirts with diesel fuel all over em. No worrying about the fuel system imploding. I love how my 6.7 pulls, but enough is enough.
No gas EVRRRRR
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod embrace the gassssssssss lol
I take mine to the Ford dealer and I don't have any mess Lol😁
New to diesel. Just bought a 2023 F250 6.7 powerstroke. How often do you change the fuel filter?
23?
Every15k brah
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod my mistake. Its a 2022 6.7 power stroke. F250 lariat ultimate.
My 12 will drain for days seems like. I don’t drain. I just use a big bucket, unscrew it and dump. It stops at maybe a qt of fuel and I add the new filter and put it back together.
Mine only has barely a quart or so when I drain ???
Keep the drain open slowly back out the 8s and it'll stop draining 60% of the time works every time
Glad I never have to worry about this again 😂 #HSM #FTW
No kiddddddddddin. Doin minez tomorrow
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod nice about time 😂
Yea, i be werkin' on all yalls trucks....i had to call & make a GD appointment for meeee
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod you know the old saying the mechanic fixing everyone else’s truck never get to fix his own. Or something like that. 😂
Drop that shiiii
I'm hoping that they hired the genius that came up with that mess AFTER they stopped producing 7.3 trucks. I certainly don't want that on any of my vehicles! Shame on the mess! And FWIW, I have a large plastic tote I use for draining anything I want to save, whether it's ATF, coolant or whatever. I clean it out real good and keep it covered. Especially if it's full of coolant so I won't worry about my dogs drinking it.
If you can not afford to have basic service work done on your vehicle, you just need to stop working....the 6.7 has been damn near perfect since the 7.3... Wake up....
@@johnt6673 What in the world does being able to afford basic service on your vehicle have to do with my comment? My comment is about the way this filtration system is designed as it certainly not service friendly no matter who is doing the work. And just because I choose to drive older trucks instead of paying $80K for a new one is my personal choice. I choose to do my own service because I can and it saves me $$$ at the same time.
Doesn't opening the fuel cap release the vacuum and keep all the fuel from coming out? Also, like someone else said, change when less than a.quarter of a tank.
I dunno about the fuel cap
I opened the drain valve and loosened the screws. Drained for about 30 seconds and less than a gallon drained. Guess I got lucky
Wait, those things waste five GALLONS when they get drained? Jesus! I am not letting my dealer do it any more. I'll put a 5gal jug under it and use the old fuel for fire starter!
Also, I thought that was a water-separator? Am I wrong?
I have changed mine twice and only got about a half a gallon. Geesh, I hope I don't get one that drains that much. Was the fuel tank fill cap on or not tight ?
I have been doing the top filter 1st & leaving those lines off while the lower is draining and throughout the lower beimg replaced
That looked like about $60 worth of diesel that went down the drain, that’s the unfortunate part of fords design on this filter setup. When I changed mine last I was fortunate enough that it actually drained quickly and got down to a small trickle and I was able to get it done without wearing fuel for cologne. Although I don’t mind the smell of diesel I don’t like it that much.
I capture mine in a sealable container and use the diesel later to burn up my brush piles. Much less volatile then gas to light.
i run the drained diesel in my tractor
Make sure the fuel cap is on and tank is low. It’s not supposed to siphon according to the manual unless you take the cap off. I’ve never had more than the amount the filter holds. I also don’t let the drain plug open full at first to break the connection to the fuel in the tank then let er rip.
.....the cap. Ya better read that manual again papi
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I did, that’s why I brought to everyone’s attention🙂. Page 383 for the 6.7 section of maintenance for the fuel conditioning module and filter in the 2020 Superduty owners manual it states “For 2017 models disconnect the fuel line quick disconnect coupling from the in tank fuel pump. For 2018 and later, skip this step but ensure the fuel filler cap is closed before draining the filter. Failure to close the filler cap results in the siphoning of the entire fuel tank contents when you open the drain screw.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thank you for all of your time and content. It is very useful.
What’s a good website to order the fuel filter from for my 23? See a lot of stuff out there and worry about fake filters.
H&S motorsport ALL day. Ask for Zane...tell em we sent cha
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod awesome thank you .
I'm switching to that S&S version that uses the CAT water separator.
With the cat filter it definitely don't drain like this
I was lucky , changed it for the first time last week ( 2019 F350 ) it drained for about 3 min . And didn't break the drain plug
Think I will stick to the drain valve!
I wait until my fuel tank is down to a !/4 tank or less to change the fuel water separator and fuel filter
Hey dude, can you capture the diesel in a clean container and pour it back into the tank? Especially if its really 5 gals or more.
I suppose
The last fuel filter change I done on my 250 did just what you described. It siphoned a lot of fuel out of the tank and wouldn't stop until i unscrewed the bottom on the separator housing. This of course gives you a nasty fuel bath. Bad part was the Motorcraft filter swelled up and i couldn't get the bottom cover to pull the cartridge out. I pryed down on the cover then it let go of the filter. The filter had to be drug out of the upper plastic housing with vise grips. I change my filters every 15k so i dont know why it did this. Very odd
My concern would be was it a knock of Ford filter, lots of fraud in these areas.
@@akbychoice I thought of that possibility but I purchased the filter from my local Ford dealership. Unless they got scammed as well perhaps
My first change on my 2019 did the same thing. The filter would not come out of the housing so I took it to a mechanic before I broke something and he wound up breaking the housing. He was able to get a new housing and finish the filter change. All in all, it cost me $300 to change the lower filter. Should have gone ahead and installed the after market CAT filter I've been seeing/
Will cat litter bucket fit? Like Tiddy Cat with big lid
Yea but not as wide tho..
Looks like that new design 17 and on is messy. Of course my 12 will give you a diesel shower
The thing is some do that and some dont....it really makes no sense at all. Probably has something to do with the amount of fuel in the tank....?And how about when the filter gets stuck in there? Ever ran across that?
Yepppp
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod what the heck man? Lol .does it happen with ford filters too I was thinking just aftermarket junk.
Or you can wait until the tank is less than 1/4 and avoid all this mess.
I learned the hard way the first time I did it when the tank was almost full and it didn’t stop draining. Now I wait until the tank is almost empty, only a small amount drains out (probably 2-3 quarts) and no more mess or wasted diesel.
......well if you come hotnoff the street and are waiting for your services to be performed.....im not waiting....we dumping
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod that’s a completely different story
I think they are supposed to have a check valve or something to keep that from happening. Maybe some are defective
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Been through 6 changes on my 2022. Never had the drain problem. No offense meant just my ignorance. I drain rear filter. While it drains i crack the top lines and swap it. By then bottom one is drained. Usually just what was in the housing. Who knows
Do what you done but leave the drain open and just loosen the bolts enough to break the seal and it will drain
Werd werd
Put that #hit back, expensive out there…😂
What model year 6.7s is affected by this? Water in the filter.?
All vehicles that run diesel...
If there’s no way to
Have a low fuel level, just open that drain and go find something else to do on your vehicle service. Plan to change that filter first, so you’re not waiting forever for that to drain. Maximize your time.
Ok here I come with the money questions. If you put a aftermarket fuel filter on the bottom how do you stop it from draining after you spin off the filter?
No draining 🤣🤣🤣
S&S just did a disaster video-the cause…..after market (metal can) fuel filters rusting due to water in diesel. I’ll stick with OEM plastic filters and deal with it.
@kao9379 that was a specific brand filter and filter set-up. And it had water in the drain that should of been emptied.
It it because the filter is so dirty? Is the lack of filter permeability what's causing it to siphon the fuel?
Nah i dont feel like that is why
It must be causing a siphon on the tank. Would it be better to do a filter change when the tank is like 1/4 full or less?
U can but i dont have that choice when you all arrive
That’s exactly right. My first time I changed my filter I had a full tank of fuel and it siphoned 5 gallons before I closed the valve and waited till 1/4 tank or less and problem solved
I wait until there's about an eigth of a tank of fuel and less than a gallon comes out.
Weird. My 2020 drains for 10 minutes until it stops. About a quart. I then drop the filter with zero fuel spillage at all
It keeps draining diesel cause that truck is equipped with additional fuel tank. Close the valve from additional fuel tank during filter replacement. Just don't forget to open the valve 😎
No aux tank broski
I use to manage the shop of a fleet with over 200 units of superduty 6.7 , in my experience it drains just when auxiliary tank stays higher then frame. Dodge Ram got different problem with auxiliary tank
I have a 18 f250 lariat and Mine NEVER drains that much....just a trickle for about a min or so and then thats it...what the hell??
Does installing th HSM kit void warranty?
Absolutely not
Isn’t there an upgrade to do away with the poorly thought out stock filter.
Umm yea
Do it yourselfer’s need to be sure your at 1/4 tank or less before changing em. Of course ARod would appreciate the same if you bring it to him! 👍🏼😉
I wld 😉😉
Open fuel cap
S&S kit
I just open the fuel cap and the siphon on the fuel stops
I dunno bout that...
Astounding to me how Ford managed to make the fuel filter an even bigger pain in the ass every generation of truck. I thought my 2008 had a stupid design with the filter being inside the frame so you get a face full of fuel every single time, but this one is way worse. I hate changing these filters on the trucks at my work.
Will the HSM lower fuel filter kit prevent so much of a loss of fuel when the filter is changed? Also it looks like it will be less of a mess to change that HSM lower fuel filter vs a factory fuel filter. Is my assumption correct?
Vet man, you nailed it!!!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod 🙌🏻 my HSM kit is on the way.
I always drain the bottom filter with whatever fuel is in the tank full or empty first, I then do the top filter and never lose more than 1/4 gallon of gas. If you remove the top and then the bottom you are going to drain your tank. I have changed my filters about 4 times already on my 18 dually on my back because I don't have a lift. This video certainly isn't your best moment I've watched so far. I look like a pro compared to this video lol.
I’ll never bitch about my FASS fuel filter and water separator again on my GM truck.
I'm about to get a fast.. screw that
I take it to the Ford dealer and let him get dirty. 😀
I let the dealer tech do it....
I’m
Glad my 16 doesn’t have that style of filter.
I know this comment will likely get laughed at and ridiculed but with today's diesel prices Is there any way of reusing this fuel by draining it into a clean catch container... Returning it back to the fuel tank it's gonna go back through the new fuel filter anyway and if it really is that much fuel maybe after a minute or so of draining that the remainder would be safe to return to the fuel tank, just say'n!!!
Fer as negligent as the amount...i waste putting it back in
I know not everyone has the option but, I save and use it in my tractor since it is less sensitive to "dirty" fuel. I also save the oil for smudge pots, you can add the drained fuel to that oil too.
@@wildearpsadventures4991 Very interesting uses of both products... Something I hadn't thought to consider, but now I will, thank you for that idea...
Disconnect the top filter. Lol
Absolute horrendous filter design on FoMoCo’s part!! Shame on them for not giving us a normal spin on water separator.
The fleece ones are sooo much better. We have a video coming out, you guys are gonna dig them
If you don't pull 12k plus pounds, ie dont really "need" the 6.7L diesel...this is another reason to buy the 7.3L godzilla. No fuel filter. Maintenance is cheaper & easier.
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I've always changed mine and never waited more than 5 or so minutes opening the drain port. Definitely not 5 gal worth