Realistic suspension for beginners - Double wishbone suspension

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  • Many people struggle with the building of realistic suspension in Scrap Mechanic. So this video is for you to learn. :)
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  • @davidsnitgaard2151
    @davidsnitgaard2151 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    kAN Gaming be like: Anything that moves parallel to each other, is a double wishbone mechanism.

    • @xlenart661
      @xlenart661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hahaha

    • @linc0646E
      @linc0646E 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kinda true doe

  • @SapioiT
    @SapioiT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting how you explained it with different colors. It makes things a lot easier to understand. Thank you for teaching me/us!
    Now I wish to see the anti-roll feature, and I can't find a video for it, by searching on your channel. Does it have a different name, or did you not make/release a video about that (yet)?

  • @屡有佳数ルーカス
    @屡有佳数ルーカス 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You use camber angle for turning corners so when the sprig gets compressed the camber will help the wheel to get as much traction to the ground

  • @YoloMonstaaa
    @YoloMonstaaa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Bro you should have edited this down to like 7 minutes

    • @Alstrak
      @Alstrak  7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      DerpMode These videos are long because suspension is hard to understand and I tried to make it as easy as possible for everyone to understand. :)

  • @cubu1946
    @cubu1946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, that's a great way to start your video, hey if your not familiar with it, don't try it it'll be difficult to understand, what that translates to is "hey your stupid, don't try it" lmao. that is what TH-cam videos are for, to show us how to do it... we watch to learn new tricks and tips. but here you are "oh don't try it, your not smart enough"

  • @daniilrayu1911
    @daniilrayu1911 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good examples, but you should try making scripts for your videos

  • @DeweysGuitar
    @DeweysGuitar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am trying this in creative right now, and you have not explained how to make this AT ALL. Every time I try the bearings start to move the whole project. How did you make sure everything stayed in place while you were building

    • @NarutoMagicCyclops
      @NarutoMagicCyclops 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      jordan tran as someone who just started playing I thought that bearings not moving while on the lift was common knowledge?

  • @ora-ora-ora
    @ora-ora-ora 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made suspensions based on your design with 3 simple pipe in the wishbone et the spring in the middle. It works incredibly well in creative but for some reason when I build it in survival the whole suspension sort of collapse when hitting something hard. Back to the drawing board I guess

    • @PyrokineticFire1
      @PyrokineticFire1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found a similar problem.
      I think the physics of survival allows the bearings more slack, letting them pull apart slightly. compound this issue across all those bearing connections and the wheels camber WAY too much under heavier stress.

  • @scrapmechanicnoob7382
    @scrapmechanicnoob7382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video with detailed examples. Don't listen to the trolls. You did a great job explaining. I and others have learned a lot from this. Thank you.

    • @gamerkeks7997
      @gamerkeks7997 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mhhh i can assure you i am not a troll but i wouldn't say it was explained very well, for someone understanding physics and leverage and all those things and able to combine that all in a thought process, this video is really understandable, however someone like that (like me) doesn't watch this video to learn the basics, but to either see how others do it or just out of curiosity.
      For actual beginners i can see this video beeing helpful, but hard to understand.
      As others have stated it's way to long, due to some "what fo you call it"-moments or suddenly explaining a little side thing before switching back to the main mechanism and that is all normal and human, but man, this is what videos are good at, you can and you should cut it out/if you fail at saying a whole sentence because you can't remember the correct word or something (which again is ok and human), you should just try to say that sentence again and cut out the once you couldn't say correctly.
      Things like that are part of quality of the video overall, and imo it is worth putting that more effort into your videos to push up their quality.

    • @gamerkeks7997
      @gamerkeks7997 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now i also see some "flaws" in the way you explain them.
      First off you explain in a way expecting some knowledge about suspensions and/or ingame mechanics. If you make a video about these ok but you specifically wanted to make a video for beginners, and therefore you have to explain things from the ground up.
      Some details like "Why isn't putting a suspension part down and then directly the wheel after it not realistic?" would have been nice for beginners.
      What imo is necessary however is a full walkthrough how to build a double wishbone suspension at more of the beginning pf the video, with colouring the specific parts.
      A beginner isn't clear of what all happens there and just a preset of suspensions can look very messy and unclear to a beginner. At least you could've pulled up the connection tool to show the bearings and what they are connected to or if they are free floating.
      One of the biggest things i see problematic about that is that you right away had a lowering-mechanism built into you presets. That is not part of basic double wishbone suspension that makes it harder to understand, especially since you only mentioned what it does and did not explain it properly. That mechanism should've been in the end of the video as a "tips&tricks" part, explaining that it is not necessary but cool/useful to have and reasons to have it/what it does.

  • @picklepete1492
    @picklepete1492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn't stop laughing when he said this is the best one don't even try others

  • @tdoyr2119
    @tdoyr2119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is mine limp?

  • @taylankocak2974
    @taylankocak2974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the problem with this design is it has suspension glitch it makes the car unintentionally more stable
    to fix it you need to atach both ends of the suspension to a universal all axis joint
    also i dont really think that double wishbone is way more beter than standart basic suspension
    its cheaper
    and has less lag

    • @PyrokineticFire1
      @PyrokineticFire1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      his recommended setups shouldn't cause suspension glitches.
      I agree that this suspension has the benefit of greater travel height (than a single suspension) but in most cases a simpler suspension arrangement would be more useful, compact and less taxing on your computer.

  • @jackmullan505
    @jackmullan505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    was a good video but he needs to recite his script as he's forgetting what he needs to say and sometimes repeating himself, also need to edit out the parts that are not needed and would make the video much shorter. other then that was very helpful .

    • @Alstrak
      @Alstrak  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never had a script for it. I was too lazy to write one. I was in the process to make a remake of this series and wanted to make a script but then I got yet again too lazy and never finished it. Suspension turned out harder to explain than thought. But you are right, I should do better. :)

    • @jackmullan505
      @jackmullan505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even just make a rough plan of what you are gonna say so you sound better and more clear and less unsure

    • @jackmullan505
      @jackmullan505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other than that was a good video and I actually learnt something unlike others

  • @lilcascas8703
    @lilcascas8703 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you weild those two pipes!?!?!
    12:32

  • @chieldonkers8377
    @chieldonkers8377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much

  • @Cypeq
    @Cypeq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have double wishbone but having top bearing on the spring moving allows body to roll so much that it can flip, whilst having top bearing fixed car becomes fully roll immune. I apply this to rear only which is also 1 block wider base than the front. This compromises ability to turn a little but allows for higher top speed, and no rolling what so ever. In survival you may prefer to have roll immunity on your car.

  • @CaCidinho
    @CaCidinho 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The last one moves pretty much like a MacPherson suspension

    • @heateallthelemons
      @heateallthelemons 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      C - Gaming mcpershon suspension has adjustable camber doesn't it? if yes it's nothing close to the one Alstark made, if no let me know that i'm mistaking

    • @CaCidinho
      @CaCidinho 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      'L'Bush its camber changes when compressed or extended

  • @diegohuijbregtsgarcia5102
    @diegohuijbregtsgarcia5102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I make actual wishbones, these aren't actual wishbones. They work the same tho. Thanks for the info :)

  • @DM-et9rp
    @DM-et9rp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried this in survival now, keeps glitching or folding over in turns. Is this still viable?

  • @dextruax4903
    @dextruax4903 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does the game break if you use off-road suspension?

  • @whoasked1848
    @whoasked1848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude thank you! Pictures weren't doing it for me.

  • @gamerkeks7997
    @gamerkeks7997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this is old but 7:57 Suspensions fo NOT have collision, not even in the Survival Update to this point :P
    You should be clear about not only DW-Suspension irl but also about game mechanics and how the game handels things before explaining stuff.

  • @hecler5772
    @hecler5772 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nise suspension u got there.

  • @tztz7114
    @tztz7114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @tudorg22
    @tudorg22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid!! Helped me a lot !! Thanks!!

  • @thatsagreeable5549
    @thatsagreeable5549 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super nice dude👌🏽

  • @CaCidinho
    @CaCidinho 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have nice a nice vacation

  • @CaCidinho
    @CaCidinho 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yey

  • @hajmin5421
    @hajmin5421 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    :)

  • @bentarnowski2494
    @bentarnowski2494 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You forgot to paint the bearings! 😠

    • @poisonedsugar2012
      @poisonedsugar2012 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @bentarnowski2494
      @bentarnowski2494 7 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @poisonedsugar2012
      @poisonedsugar2012 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gud cuz I was kidding lol

    • @denitsatokusheva4321
      @denitsatokusheva4321 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @sjoerdobaas5349
    @sjoerdobaas5349 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    always if i try to make double wishbone suspension the thing is a suspension glitch and barely can steer

  • @hajmin5421
    @hajmin5421 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st coment and first like from me

    • @jeefcake9269
      @jeefcake9269 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow now aren't you a special snowflake

    • @bentarnowski2494
      @bentarnowski2494 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      JeefCake 😂

    • @hajmin5421
      @hajmin5421 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      no just telling

    • @hajmin5421
      @hajmin5421 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      why you are so mean