Car brand says auto industry is intentionally slowing down EV sales
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- Car brand says auto industry is intentionally slowing down EV sales
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I just traded in my 20 year old Suzuki Liana, for a 4 year old WV e-up. The thing is tiny, drives very nicely, costs nearly nothing to charge and gets me about 200-220 km on average at around 80% charge I would say. I have to admit I have found my love for just enjoying driving again after being very tired of having an old car with so many issues.
The silence of the car is one of the huge benefits, it is very nice to just float around the streets while enjoying some good podcasts or music.
The realization I can just stop and idle the car with no ill effects to anyone around me is such a nice bonus. I don't believe anyone actually enjoys breathing in exhaust fumes, or gasoline fumes when re-filling your car.
The e-up has none of the fancy things the new cars have, it has a steering wheel, a shift stick to handle your drive mode and a bluetooth setup. Thats it. It is just a car from the early 2000 era with an electrical drivetrain replacement and it still feels this good to drive. I think it is a great stepping stone EV for someone in my position going from an old failing ICE vehicle, but who is limited to a normal sized bank account. 😅
Looking forward to the next generation of cheaper simpler EVs, which I truly hope is coming soon.
I’ve owned my 2014 E-Up! for 5 years, it’s a great car. I totally agree with you about its design. Such a pity that VW didn’t repeat some of the simplicity in its ID range of cars.
I had a very close look at the Skoda equivalent - I think it was called a City Go. A fine little car and I don't understand why it was not developed further.
Good for you
Fossil fuel/ICE car producers = the new cigarette companies.
without the profit margins, haha.
@@patrickshanghai2064 Sadly they can because governments will just bail them out. And after that they can buy out all their competition besides Tesla and chinese companies. Same with cigarette companies buying out vape companies after the anti smoking law implemented
Maybe you're right but we work so hard for those ice cars. So you think we're going to just let them go easy
@@JacktheRipper-xo3wo The reality is these pure ICE vehicles are old surplus thats stranded in warehouses for many months. They sold at a loss especially in China. Its why legacy auto makers go full pivot in hybrids. Its recommended to not buy new ICE vehicles this year and in near future
Big tobacco was like a bunch fluffy (but lethal) kittens when compared to big oil.
This is so true. I have friends who absolutely hate EVs and get their back up if they are even mentioned. After a bit of conversation and questioning I realize they are parroting much of the rubbish they hear from the Murdoch media. Sky News in Australia is especially to blame.
I used to engage with Fud articles all the time in comments, soon realised to ignore it all as its often untrue
That's a great point, Sendu. It's exactly the same with politics today - it comes down to which channel one watches etc to get their news. In the US, we used to have something called "The Fairness Doctrine" that made all the news radio stations and tv channels fairly and accurately report the news. Until 1987 when Ronald Reagan and the GOP/Republicans destroyed it.
When I hear the anti EV claims, I can tell where they came from.
@@donotcare44 Thanks. I had heard about the fairness doctrine but didn't know it used to be enacted. Will look it up.
Often?
Always!
I regretted my first Tesla purchase so much I bought a second one !! So there!!
have you been married a few times too
@@debeerizAre you projecting?
Same here. Going on my 2nd Tesla, which will be the Cybertruck.
@@ac1888 ??????????????
That's definitely a dumb decision, but hey its your money spend it how ever you like. Cyber Truck is the poster car of terrible EV. @@rozonoemi9374
Genie is out of the bottle. No matter how hard they try to slow down EV adoption the ice industry is still going to be screwed.
I like how the story changed from 'EV demand is not slowing, that's misinformation!' to 'OK it's slowing but it's all a conspiracy!'
EV sales are up world wide second quarter. The statistics are available now.
@@jantjarks7946But well below where should be as the public simply aren’t buying in big numbers as anticipated so far too many new EVs in the market that not wanted. Over production making the high cost issue even worse.
@@garydavis1528 Which part of "up" was too difficult to understand?
😉
I am on my second EV. My wife is on her second EV. We have solar panels and batteries. We live in Sweden. We are not rich. We drive almost for free. We are never going back.
Why did you get rid of your first EV? Did you drive it long enough for it to offset it's environmental impact of mining the minerals or did you just create more waste?
@@ttkddry The car would have been sold onto another driver. There would have been no more impact. Note also the environmental impact of oil spills, oil drilling and oil refineries (which by the way, run on electricity)
@@ttkddry Gave my first one to my daughter. She absolutely loves it.
@@ttkddry he skidded into a lithium leach field
@@alexd302 loves it more than the children mining ⛏️ the cobalt in the DRC
I regret buying my EV in 2016 so much, I’m still driving it in 2024 with a smile on my face every time I put my foot down on the accelerator.😂
Same here. I bought my Hyundai diesel in 2016 and am still very happy with it 8 years later, and will still be happy driving it 8 years from now.
Don’t you miss filling up 😂
@@tom0kiely You mean, 3 minutes once a month? Not really.
@@brendanpells912 Try 0 minutes every day of the month!
@@brendanpells912😉
I know this is an EV echo chamber here, but we just bought our 2nd Tesla after the first years ago. Never going back. Tesla 4 life. Even bought more shares this week because its pretty obvious just how far ahead they are
Actually Tesla is OK but not as far ahead as you think.
Actually not. Many manufacturers have caught up and are ahead. The Skoda Enyaq is widely held to be superior to the equivaqlent Tesla Model Y. Your problem in N America is that you have very little choice in EVs. You don't know what you are missing.
@@rogerphelps9939 Not in NA, Australia. We've got Chinese cars like BYD here, not even close to as good. They don't even have one pedal driving sorted and the look is kinda tacky looking
@@GraftonPrimaryvideo Every EV has some sort of one pedal driving. You lift your foot off tthe accelerator pedal and regeneration starts which slows you down. Clearly you have never driven an EV.
@@rogerphelps9939 5 year Tesla driver here. I know exactly what I'm talking about. I mean one pedal driving that allows you to almost never use the brakes and come to a complete stop that also holds the car in place until you start driving again. Minimises brake pad wear and is way more intuitive. My understanding is for example BYD and Porsche don't come to a stop with one pedal driving and you have to use the physical brakes
“In theory, you can make your own energy with solar, you can power your car, you can make the majority of the energy for your house.” It’s not theory. I have 36 solar panels, a Tesla 14.4 kw system. Last year, I made 22,000 kwh of energy. My model S used 9,000 kwh to travel 25,000 miles. My house used 10,000 kwh for all of its needs. At the end of the year, I got a $700 credit towards my next year’s electricity bill. So even with the $30 monthly connection fee to the grid and taxes associated with moving large amount of energy to the grid during the day and then moving it back to my car at night, I have paid zero dollars to the power company (SoCal Edison) in the last two years. And I have paid zero dollars in gasoline costs. It’s not a theory, it is a reality. My Tesla solar system cost $33,500. After federal tax rebate, it was $23,000. I was previously paying $2,500 per year for electricity and $4,000 per year for gasoline.
You really have been ripped off paying $33,500 for a solar systtem. I suppose you live in the US where there is little choice. On the plus side you must live somewhere where the sun shines a lot, especially in winter. Here in the UK I made 4,300 kwh from a system conttaining 16 250 watt solar panels. That is plenty in the summer but not in the depths of winter when I might make just a few kwh per day but use up to 50kwh per day running my ground source heat pump.
@@rogerphelps9939 Why on Earth did you get a heat pump installed? There are only very specific scenarios where a heat pump is a benefit to heating a home. 50kwh a day???? You might as well go back to gas...
@@JoeMcMorrow-k7e Wrong. I am not on the gas network. I originally used oil. It costs about the same as gas to run my heat pump but causes the emission of less than half the amount of CO2 for t given amount of heat. Furthermore as the grid becomes greener the amount of CO2 will go down. Here in the UK new gas boilers will be illegal after 2035.
@@rogerphelps9939 You didn't mention you flipped from Oil. I am many things but a mind reader is not one of them. Gas boilers were supposed to be illegal long before 2035 but that's the power of lobbying in the UK political system I guess. I have nothing against heat pumps and good luck with yours - I also know people who have had them installed and it has been a financial money pit. I also have panels (20x185watt) and 2x Tesla Powerwalls - I looked at heat pump and electric boiler but the sums did not add up for me.
This is the age of lies. Business, government, news media, and social networking sites. The proof is in looking with your own eyes, and doing your own math. When I decided on buying my EV I looked at range, figured by current total ICE costs, estimated savings and then purchased. I was not disappointed because I knew what the truth was, since I knew how often the oil industry paid off experts I didn't listen to them. Modern consumers don't seem willing to look at the data, or the bias of the media.
Only on click bait article that suit what they think.
The 100 million mile battery is not that far down the S-curve....
Perfect done. (Also I make my own calculations...
It gives me a lot of negativ comments from EV bashers)
math is math. all people need to do is find out what works for them.
The science supporting anthropogenic climate change is absurdly bad. The Vostok ice core samples proved that during low levels of atmospheric carbon global temperatures were even warmer 100K years ago than they are today. Add to that the fact that, since plants prefer warmer weather, higher CO2 promotes more robust agriculture, thus lower C02 levels would logically reduce the global food supply.
Having said all that, the reason to prefer electric cars is twofold. First, because it reduces actual pollutants that cause respiratory and heart disease, especially in large cities. And second, because the cost of operating an EV is dramatically lower due to fuel, maintenance, and repair savings, such that even an upfront premium (if there is one) will be recovered over a period of between 3 to 5 years.
News Speak: Smoking cures cancer, breathing is harmful, hate is love.
Thanks Sam
I found an old magazine from 1924 where they openly advertised cigarettes as "health products".
Legacy car brand have been sleeping in the past two decades. Years ago German car brands laughed at hybrid technology and just added more gears to their gearboxes and added turbochargers to their engines. Now they are surpassed by Tesla and Chinese industry. Oil companies keep on drilling for oil because the fail in changing their thinking. These legacy companies are digging their own graves with huge consequences for themselves, economy and social stability (unemployment). Their policy is irresponsible
Sadly governments will just bail them out on its own citizen money. And after the bail out they will just buy out competition besides Tesla and chinese companies. Stealing from struggling EV startups technology.
How's that even batteries are even worse for the environment
Actually, a lot of these oil companies are hedging their bets and buying into charging infrastructure, and The Saudi government fund put billions into EV manufacturer Lucid. BTW, remember years ago when Elon Musk got in trouble for saying Tesla was going to be bought out, and go private. It was the Saudi's that were wanting to buy Tesla. Fortunately, it didn't happen.
@@JacktheRipper-xo3wo completely false. The mining for minerals for batteries is in no way "friendly" to the environment but its no Deepwater Horizon or Exxon Valdez oil spill. Most of these "Devistating" battery mines have nothing to do with EV supplies, like the child labour used in Cobalt, that Cobalt is used in petroleum refineries not EVs!
@@JacktheRipper-xo3wo The battery materials are 96% recyclable*.
How's your fossil fuel recycling project coming on?
* Ref: Redwood recycling.
The point that Europe and US are raising tariffs on EV shows they are a threat to existing car companies
not really, nz was one of the first to stop tax rebates and charge evs per mile, they have no car industry to protect, we do operate a free market with no subsidies but the last govt had to have the greens on board to govern and they wanted subsidies for evs, as soon as we changed govt the new govt leveled the playing field and ev sales dried up
It’s not the EVs, they are secondary. China is waging industrial warfare on Europe and the US. They are trying to smash industry in those countries, disrupt the labour market, raise the value of the Chinese Yuan and fill the space with their cheap throwaway products.
@@debeeriz Very bad. There should be a levy on all ICE vehicles to pay for the current environmental damage they are doing through CO, NOx and particulate emissions and future damage to the climate through CO2 emissions. NZ is fortunate in that a very high proportion of its electricity comes from renewables. This reacttionary government will be cursed by future generations.
@@debeeriz There should not have EV incentives anywhere on the planet. Let me decide what is good for me, not government.
@@debeeriz Also, Stop giving incentive to the oil industry!
they know they are behind in battery, in technologies, in infrastructure and in total eco system. They are immoral to drag everyone down with them
Battery technologies are in the main being developed by battery companies, not car manufactturers. This means that the latest batteries will be available to all manufacturers. Thatt is even the case with Tesla which uses the likes of CATL etc.
You're talking about Tesla?
Legacy auto is full of shit like they always have been.....
What shit is that?
@@fanbelt9926 Since all fossil fuels comes from ancient sea animals and ancient dead plants, hence theyre literally poop. And its a fact. Fossil fuels are poop in literal sense. We eat dead creatures and we poop dead creatures. Whats the difference between digested dead living things and buried in molecular sense?
@@fanbelt9926 That it is Good to burn fossil fuel & can't make money making EV like the GM EV 1.
They sold their future to the advertising industry which draws its power from control of the narrative! Unfortunately this disruption is too real to simply deceive the consumers away from the advantages of change. There a lot of money tied up in the supply,refining and distribution of the fossil fuel companies. Then the finance ,bankers , and dealers in the ice vehicles . They think that their advertising spending will stop change and that the media has control. They have been right for a while but they are going to be on the wrong side of history very soon.😊
@@fanbelt9926 anything that comes out of Mary BS Barra’s Mouth
As the Chinese begin to take over the international market for EVs the vested interests (oil and legacy car makers), will have to struggle to maintain their positions. Not only will the prices of EVs come down but China will be more involved in helping to develop the charging infrastructure as well. Slowly, the pieces are starting to come together. Battery technology in particular is advancing with each year, getting cheaper and more reliable. The old ICE technology is fading. Tariffs and propaganda can slow the transition, but once the prices of EVs match or beat gas guzzlers and fears dissipate the shift will accelerate. One thing is clear, the future is with EVs, it's just a matter of time.
It's no coincidence that Communist China (and places like Norway and California) is the biggest 'market' for EVs, because there is no such thing as a free market for EVs, they (and the chargers) inherently cost more to build than anyone is willing to pay for them- and so will always cost the taxpayer a fortune. Let China own that albatross if they want, (they've already sunk hundreds of billions of state money into it) let other's actually make money selling cars people actually want.
EV market is 7% in the US, (down from 8% last year), if we are freed from the mandates, which is looking increasingly likely, it's going to shrink even faster.
@@SteveLomas-k6k Like it or not, the Chinese are way ahead of everyone else in the EV space. They subsidized their EV manufacturers early on and were able to bring down prices so that most of their EVs are at or better in price than ICE vehicles. They are also ahead in battery technology. CATL and BYD are producing denser and cheaper batteries with each iteration. Tariffs in the US and Europe will save the legacy automakers for now, but the Chinese have almost no competition in the rest of the world. We are beginning to see more Chinese cars, EVs, and ICE in Latin America and Asia. Prices and quality are equal to or better than US or European cars.
Moreover, Chinese companies are setting up plants in Mexico that will someday supply both the US and Latin America with EVs. Regardless of what you might think of their government, their cars are stiff competition for Europe and America. It remains to be seen if the legacy automakers can catch up.
@@ferfromla Well yes, they're way 'ahead' in terms of public money thrown at EVs, nearly half a TRILLION by some estimates, one reason their economy is looking so shaky.
In terms of being able to produce competitive IC cars that people want in the US- they are way behind. IC technology is a lot more complex than wiring up some batteries to an electric motor- anyone can do that- but nobody can make a profit doing it. I'm happy to have China take the hit on EVs if they want it.
@@SteveLomas-k6k The Chinese are very competitive and are marketing all over the world. Reviewers worldwide, including in the US, have uniformly concluded that Chinese cars are equal to or, in some cases, better than what the legacy car makers offer. If BYD, Geely, and the like were not tough competition, tariffs would not be needed here or in Europe. We do subsidies, too, through tax breaks and bailouts. Anyone who does not take Chinese companies seriously is making a big mistake. The legacy car companies have been given a reprieve for the time being with 100% tariffs. But the rest of the world is open for business and will buy Chinese cars.
@@ferfromla Sure, but again primarily in the EV market only, which is a pretty small niche with an uncertain future in the US. I agree we don't need tariffs- and without looming mandates for EVs, we wouldn't have to worry about China dominating that subsidy driven market.
The most popular auto in the US is the IC powered Ford F150. (Ford didn't take the 'bailout' which was only a loan anyway) I don't see China competing much in that market.
Regarding that 'study' claiming that EV owners are going back to ICE, there are some huge red flags.
1. None of the reports link to the actual study.
2. If you go to the McKinsey website, there doesn't appear to be a report. I suspect it is buried deep inside something on a different topic.
3. Reporting of this study is all over the place. Some reporting that it applies to US EV owners. I've seen the same claim about Australian EV owners. I've seen a global figure of 29% cited. The reporting is all over the place.
The reporting is most definitely bollocks.
@@rogerphelps9939 I looked it up, the number applies to the US. The study was of several countries, but that number applied to the US, not the world. US is a bit weird with EVs. Americans are more likely to do long distances as the norm compared to Europe and the charging network is one of the worst in the western world in many areas. It makes some sense that there will be more negative experiences there than in Europe.
On 43k miles of mostly road trips in my Tesla I have not had issues charging.
Must be non Tesla owners.
Misinformation is the big thing at the moment. In every aspect of life. Not only regarding ev.
I admire your intellectual honesty and your commitment for a green future. Electric mobility will prevail but Global Warming will take a huge toll if the solutions aren’t implemented rapidly.
Yeah right I regretted mine so much I purchased a powerwall
@@BrisbaneTeslaGuy Why? Tesla is really ripping you off charging of the order of $1000 per kwh when battery prices are now around $50 per kwh. You van buy an EV with an 80kwh battery for £40,000. That is £500 per kwh and you get a car attached to the battery for good measure. There are plenty of better cheaper altternattives to Tesla powerwalls.
@@rogerphelps9939 to be fair I got mine 18 months ago so you are sort of right but the issue is in Australia the other battery products are not as safe , as good quality long lasting have the ability to latch into a VPP the way the Powerwall does. I’ve saved a small fortune so far in Australia. We have some of the highest electricity cost In The world. Ultimately I made the right decision. Also as I joined the Tesla vpp the too my warranty to 20 years from 10 years so I’m happy.
@@rogerphelps9939 Yep, but don't tell anyone, it's a secret.
I’ll be a first time Tesla/EV owner on Tuesday. Can’t wait. Thanks for the great content.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe".
When people hate to think, don't believe the calculator, this is what we get.
Amen.
Our society is a product of our consciousness. When we decide to change, everything around us will change. But no one likes change.
Everyone needs to stay calm.
Thank you.
Just got 2024 Tesla model , bomb of the world, best value car in the world, no need to look at anything else.
Wrong. There are plenty of alternatives at least as good as if not beter than what Tesla has to offer, unless of course, you live in Nortth America where your choice is extremely limited.
@@rogerphelps9939 I live in Colorado USA and the Tesla was a no-brainer over other EVs, mostly due to the Supercharger network.
@@philmarsh7723 The Tesla charger network is a monopoly or at best an oligopoly. That is illegal in most of the world. You are not obliged to buy petrol from your car manufacturer, petrol/diesel supply is an entirely separate business. Outside N America EV charging is operated by many different suppliers who will compette on price. No silly apps or accounts needed. Payment is by contactless, a far better state of affairs.
Telsa's the only major EV maker with declining sales:
Jan-June 2024 EV sales vs 2023:
+112% Kia
+72% Ford
+58% NIO
+37% General Motors
+33% Hyundai
+26% BYD
+9% Rivian
-7% Tesla
Australia, too. Tesla have copped a hiding over here. Year on year sales are down a staggering 33%. The market is up by about 9%. Ouch. I don't think that it's going to get any better for them anytime soon, either. Tesla owners are starting to become the butt of jokes, down this way.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I'm here in Aus too, Melbourne. The more Elon reveals his true extremist reactionary politics, the more he permanently trashes the Tesla brand.
Axios Harris brand rankings - auto brands
# 2024 | Company | # 2021 | 2021-24 change
#7 Honda Motor Company #2 ▽5
#12 Toyota Motor Corporation #18 △6
#15 Subaru #14 ▽1
#40 General Motors #68 △28
#55 Ford Motor Company #50 ▽5
#63 Tesla Motors #8 ▽55
#69 Volkswagen Group # NA -
Just goes to show how good this Tesla pumper is at glossing over any Tesla negatives 😁
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I'm here in Aus too, Melbourne. The more Elon reveals his true extremist reactionary politics, the more he permanently trashes the Tesla brand.
Axios Harris brand rankings - auto brands
# 2024 | Company | # 2021 | 2021-24 change
#7 Honda Motor Company #2 ▽5
#12 Toyota Motor Corporation #18 △6
#15 Subaru #14 ▽1
#40 General Motors #68 △28
#55 Ford Motor Company #50 ▽5
#63 Tesla Motors #8 ▽55(!)
#69 Volkswagen Group # NA -
Tesla has a huge QC problem and with other companies coming in making better quality vehicles, the rose colored glasses are finally coming off about the build quality of their vehicles…
It is laughably obvious in light of the greatly accelerating adoption of EV's, battery storage and green energy production, Big Oil and Legacy Big Auto is getting increasingly desperate. Thus, the fear-mongering will continue to increase and the lies become bigger. But take heart, much like the powerful cigarette industry, the public will continue to be more educated and accepting of EV's. I must say though, I didn't think the fossil fuel goofs would get so outrageous as to tell such a whopper that diesel fumes are suppressing methane!
Can someone please get a professor of chemistry to show that diesel fumes (nitrogen dioxide) suppresses methane.
I just moved from Canada to China. The air quality and quietness on the road sides is mind boggling compared to even downtown Vancouver. I just bought my first EV and have no intention of going back to IC cars.
Air quality surprises me. China is ranked as having the 13th worst air quality in the world. Canada is way down in 93rd position.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I've been visiting China now and again since the 1980's. The air quality was horrendous even as back as the last Olympics in Beijing. However, what struck me most was the difference in the last 2 years. I was in Hong Kong last week and the heat from the car and bus engines, exhaust pollution and noise was very uncomfortable in this Summer heat.
Some people are afraid to test drive any EV for fear of what they have heard from other EV owners that they will never go back to an ice vehicle and be a slave to the oil companies, and the high cost of vehicle maintenance. Not everyone can spot the many EVs that are out there unless they are a Tesla, but there are more and more from all manufacturers on the road including an increasing number of new Teslas, the snowball is beginning to gather speed and size.
Of course, anti EV videos popping up on my homepage even if I never searched for them. I flag these videos as "not interested" like 5x and they still show....😂
It appears that a lot of American ice car owners treat EVs as a bit of a cult.. but if they get a chance to drive one many discover that in fact is a better driving experience in most not every case
If you buy an EV, you will never go back to driving a petrol guzzler. That story is total rubbish.
I disagree, I’d never go back.
I've been driving a Model X for 5 years, never going back to an ICE vehicle.
It will be amusing to see these fossil fuel interests trying, and then spectacularly failing, to stop the electrification revolution. We have a front row seat in Australia where we are about to be inundated by a wave of ever more excellent and affordable Chinese EVs.
Canada is behind. Can’t get non-Tesla cars from China, because they have to be certified for the US. Of course, Tesla meets US standards. Others? Dang!
Thank you! I don't think you focus on it too much. Legacy auto manufactures are behind. Battery manufacturing plants are being built in the U.S. and legacy manufacturers are using tactics like this to stall for time.
Make EVs better and cheaper and they will sell themselves. The push back is only going to get worse as EV sales increase, eventually the tipping point of public sentiment will shift in favour of EVs till then hater’s gonna hate best way to piss em off is go electric 😂👍
90% of people couldn't care less if their car was fuelled by petrol, diesel, electric or unicorn farts. It all comes down to the hip pocket, for most car buyers. The biggest car segment in the world is small cheap hatchbacks and small SUV's. Notice the word "cheap". When EV's can break into that market, you won't have to bother to advertise them.
I did a forty miles drive this week in my Kia EV, total cost of the fuel used charging at the cheap night rate, 60 pence
I think we should not bang on too much about how cheap EV motoring is because it is an artificial situation. Petrol and diesel are rightly taxed far more heavily than electricity, not heavily enough in my view. Anyway this tax is a very important revenue stream for the government. As EVs become an ever larger proportion of the number of cars on the road this revenue stream will decrease and will have to be replaced by somehing else. In my view there will be an annual charge based on mileage and the weight/size of the car. This avoids taxing electricity per se because it has many uses besides charging EVs that do not warrant increased taxation. The mileage is already recorded at the annual MOT and it would be straightforward to extend it to tthe first two years when no MOT is required. Eventually EV mileage charging will cost about the same as ICE fuel tax costs today but I would hope that by then the tax on ICEs will be punittive.
BYD: Sold 341,658 NEVs in June 2024 - and already toppled its December 2023 sales of 341,043.
This will increase massively due to BYD giving customers the option to first try BEVs but to also be secure with the ICE side while doing so. This way it lies in the customers hands what drivetrain will be used. I am pretty sure that most will instantly see the benefit of the BEV part and choose a full BEV next time...after they sell the PHEV prematurely so other customers can make the same experience...only a bit cheaper than the original customer. Giving the customer the choice and being fully transparent is way way more relevant than advertising.
My MG4 is a great car it runs off my roof in summer and cheap midnight electricity in winter. The legacy car makers and oil companies are pumping out propaganda galore. It’s amazing how much this must be costing them.
Who pays for the damage when it “runs off” the roof?😂
@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck The ski jump people
Batteries will get MORE efficient...
Battery round trip efficiency is already around 90% so any improvements really are marginal.
So why does one of the largest surveys show Ausis can't wait to switch back to ICE as the plummeting value of their EV destroys their investment as well as new restrictions on home charging due to safety concerns?
Safety charging at home?
Have you looked at how unsafe gas station are?
On the USA there are over 4000 fires at gas stations each year.
If you are trying to save money drive the vehicle Until the wheels fall off.
What amazes me more is that we are less informed today than 20 years ago, and every news I hear or see I have to fact check it in several sources until I can make an opinion. Basically we went backwards in what respect information.
I’ve driven three Tesla’s now, plus a BYD and an MG EV. Two were rentals, the others were friends and family. I was stunned at how bland the interior was in the Tesla’s and the poor quality of the materials, seats, plastics, etc. The BYD and MG were just plain rubbish. The Tesla’s (US builds) were clearly far superior to the others and much better to drive but having said that, I still found the driving experience to be disappointing. I was expecting more for so much money. And don’t get me started on that bloody great screen that controls everything…
how do you feel about participating in burning oil/gas/diesel that creates CO2, that causes Climate Change and wreaks havoc on our climate??? India has reached 49 degrees C. Tokyo is up to 40 degrees, it will get worse. You are either a part of the solution of a part of the problem! Choose!
Yehhh, didn’t the same people sell cigarettes at pharmacies,as a cure for coughing! Remember remember 🤬
It's sad but true what you say about all the fud being spread about EVS, there is a really annoying TH-camr in Australia his site is dedicated to slagging off EVS I can't stand the creep! He just loves to report anything he can find to dish EVS what is more annoying is all the people who are influenced by him!
That channel is a meeting place for twats and bots. How sad
"Don't recommend this channel" works just fine.
Yes. There are a lot of gullible people who cannot think for themselves around. They have confirmation bias where, if they hear messages reassuring them that they can carry on as they are without fear of consequences, they will give tthem far more weigh than the truth.
Is he the guy that calls himself “The Auto Expert?”
@@georgepelton5645 I believe he calls himself Mguy or somesuch.
Infrared light reflects off pollution chemicals, so it will get worse. That doesn't mean its rite to continue polluting, there are many aerosol's that we can use if needed to offset the effects. including water vapor.
Right
Water vapor is a greenhouse gas too though?
Not the main driver like CO2 but it does act as a multiplier in that we get more of it as the atmosphere & oceans heat up due to CC.
But yeah i suppose we could emit other aerosols to try and combat methane emissions, but I'd rather see methane(Natural gas) go the way of the Dodo along with all the other fossil fuels, then maybe we can worry about methane emissions from natural sources, like rotting vegetation, thawing permafrost and volcanic eruptions.
@@lagmonster7789 In this video Viking mentions studies that show the physical presence of pollution in the atmosphere reflects some of the suns heat back into outerspace. So as we top burning coal and gas the temperature will initially get worse not better. The underlying cause of climate change is still caused by co2 & methane. Water vapor at the earths surface may trap heat? But clouds of water vaper block heat we all feel it on a cloudy day.
I don't feel like its a impossible problem anymore, theres so many things we can do, just changing farming practices alone can draw massive amount of carbon. The first step to fixing things is to stop breaking them first though.
Polestar in Sweden sell cars to 95% to companies and only 5 % sold to consumers in 2023. Their cars is to expensive and cost upwards 60-80k
Some people only talk the good points and hates anyone that points to the BS.
ICEs will be providing a free horse and cart soon with every dinasaur purchase as a way of reducing CO2.....all free advertising for EVs cause you won't need grass.....
Thank you so much for your refreshing insights into the industry. We need more sites like this.
Our pleasure!
For me the only problem is the cost EV is 20k more so for me thats 10 years of my fuel cost. Its just not economical but if you drive a lot and can charge at home its not bad. It depends how you use your car if its worth it.
No. There are now many EVs in the affordable mass market range coming, unless, of course, you live in tthe US.
@@rogerphelps9939 They are coming, we getting close. The Dolphin is super close, could argue its only 10K more than ICE but if you dont drive much thats still 10 years of fuel for you.
If they could make EVs and sell them for a profit, they would do so. Latest car sales figures for UK out today, covering the first half of the year. Overall car sales up 6%, Tesla sales down 9.5%. Tesla managed to at least get into the top 10 best sellers for June, but only by the usual tactic of holding back sales and bunching them into one month. For example, about 17.6% of cars sold this year were sold in June, but 29.3% of all Tesla were sold in June. Of all the Tesla registered in June, only 4 weren't models Y or 3
@@brendanpells912 BEVs up 7.4%. Petrol down 7.8%. Diesel down 17.2%. The various hybrids are up between 27% and 30%. This is only going in one direction. Source: SMMT June sales figures.
1:50 "Tesla sales are pretty similar to last year... within 2%". Sam, if you are going to claim that other people are spreading FUD, it's best to get the facts right! Tesla _sales_ in Q2 2024 were *4.8%* lower than Q2 2023. Production was 14.4% lower, because of the excess inventory of 70,000 cars that Tesla built in Q1 2024. Is this a disaster for Tesla? No, it's not. Is it a great result? No.
In Australia, Tesla sales for the first 6 months of 2024 are 9.6% below last year. Overall sales of EV's are up 16.5% from last year (and the market as a whole is up 8.7% on last year-to-date). EV's (_including_ PHEV's) now represent 9.2% of the Australian new car market. Other brands (especially BYD/MG/GWM) are taking market share from Tesla.
Tesla pumper only gives positive Tesla news 😁
My ev has saved me a TON of money I used to spend on gas and maintenance. There’s no free lunch in technology. Upsides and downsides to everything. But if you weigh the pros and cons evenly, EV’s are better at this point, especially financially.
My senior relatives cried and moaned and groaned about switching antennas when digital was rolled out. Now they love it. It is the same way with any change. If your mind isn't flexible change is painful.
Ask them if they’re flat-earthers?
Tariffs will save the US auto industry when it comes to domestic sales but for how long is the question.
For those of us who can remember the U.S. tried tariffs before and it failed. In early 80’s Reagan imposed huge tariffs on Japanese cars to protect the U.S. car industry. By 1988 Georgetown Toyota was one on the many Japanese auto players to setup plants in the USA and they just celebrated their ninth version of the Camry. The Chinese will do the same to penetrate the U.S. market. BYD is setting up a plant in Mexico and will eventually setup in the U.S. They already have a bus plant in California. Other Chinese auto makers will follow. Unfortunately Canada follows the U.S. and hence they too will be 5 years behind Europe and the rest of Western countries in EV adoption. I live in Alberta and own an IONIQ 5 as a retired oil and gas consultant. Here it’s very political but folks need to ignore the politics and discover what a great driving experience it is own an EV.
I have yet to see a commercial for EVs here in the United States. The major car manufacturers dont even seem to be trying. Something is wrong .
I have heard some crazy theories in my life but this is ridiculous. The EVs are sitting on the lots unsold for many months more than ice cars. Many people really do not like them.
Love hearing about the negative car news in Australia. There is nothing positive at all. If it wasn’t for TH-cam, we wouldn’t know about it…. Thanks fk for TH-cam. Keep it up! 🎉
Oil and ICE car makers in BullSH*T shock. - No it's not a shock, it's just business as usual.
yes EVs are gaining market share. there is no going back. and legacy auto plus oil companies are fighting it. they should because this is going to reduce their business a lot. for the record, China is going into EVs not to save the planet. but to reduce one of their biggest challenge: importing 11 million barrels of oil per day. a large portion going to transportation.
And the absolutely appalling air quality in their major cities, anyone else remember the Smog fest that was the Beijing Olympics?
I drove my first tesla last week. I used fsd 12.3.6 from san diego to los angeles with NO intervention. I was blown away! Once i got back in my ford exploror, it was like driving a dinosaur. Im a tesla believer!
Good video. I hate my Ford EV. It has been terrible not going to the smelly gas station, getting oil changes, sitting in line at the gas station, or being able to go on road trips without worrying about running out of gas. One question, I thought Polestar was owned by Volvo.?
In America the media is almost wholly responsible for any EV turndown here. Also, the over 100% tariff on Chinese EVs is doing nothing but allowing US companies to languish in new EV technology!
TESLA SALES ARE DOWN 14%
These type of lies know no bounds & have been flouted around for some time. There are only a few to blame here!
Think I will stick with my ICE vehicle for the time being.
There are reasons to stay with ICE cars, towing and lack of chargers. Lack of chargers will disappear, and EVs like Rivan will become more common. The future is EV cars, and that will make big cities better for all. No more smog. And way cheaper driving when you need to.
Even If the Big Legacy Automakers wanted a big push towards electric
vehicles . . . . their Dealers don't . . .
Sam, Did I miss the part where you provide a link to report these "scientist" make these claims.
One of the most significant challenges facing legacy automakers like Ford, Mercedes, VW, and GM is their dealer networks. In the US, dealers have long relied on service revenue, giving them substantial influence as the primary customer interface and sales channel. This dynamic creates resistance to change, as these automakers still derive most of their profits from internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles. Consequently, they are hesitant to fully embrace electric vehicles (EVs), fearing the loss of their established revenue streams. Transitioning from ICEs to EVs isn’t straightforward for these companies; they lag in technology and risk obsolescence if they pivot too quickly. In contrast, companies like Tesla and Polestar, which exclusively produce EVs, are unencumbered by such legacy issues. I worry that many traditional automakers might follow the path of Kodak, which, despite pioneering digital photography, clung to its profitable film business for too long and ultimately failed to adapt.
Tesla sales in Oz are down >40%... That's a fact. Published industry numbers.
China has invested interest in EV's, hence the push in the BEV and PHEV, European and North American markets have investedninterest in oil, pretty simple to work out from both ends.
In the end consumers will decide, can see it already with low BEV resale and low demand from newer hybrid and BEV performance cars (AMG) for example.
AstraZeneca sales force in Canada now only have Tesla…the uptake in commercial sales forces going EV is huge
Hi Sam, no one seems to be talking about the elephant in the room. With bugger all drive through chargers how are you going to convert people who tow to EV when they find out they have to unhitch to charge? I love my new model 3 And want to get rid of our Kluger for a model y, but that’s not going to happen with the idiotic rollout of the current chargers. Think of the millions of caravans, boats, jetskis and trailers.
One step at a time eh Peter. The rollout of chargers is still in the early stages and charging cars towing trailers is being addressed, albeit slowly but they do exist.
Absolutely. The one thing that the petrol and diesel fuel industry got right is the placement of the pumps. They are on "islands" so that you can drive to the left or rightt so suit the position of the filler cap. No silly reversing is required.
Extreme weather is delaying crop planting and impacting yields around the world, Reuters reported. “Vast swathes” of farmland in Russia, China, India and parts of the US recently experienced “extremely hot conditions and below-normal rainfall”, the outlet said. Low rainfall forecast for July and August in the “breadbasket” Black Sea region could “stunt sunflower and corn yields”, the newswire noted. Meanwhile, the Financial Times said that sales of olive oil “plunged” in parts of the Mediterranean due to “steep price rises”. The FT added: “Droughts and heatwaves exacerbated by climate change have knocked olive oil output in Spain, the world’s largest producer, as well as other major producing countries such as Italy and Greece, creating a global shortfall.” Research shows that around 17% of tropical moist forests disappeared over 1990-2021, largely due to human activity such as logging and fires. Of the 1,071m hectares that remained globally in 2019, around 10% were degraded, the new study says. This means that they suffered human-induced “disturbances” that led to a partial loss of their tree cover or function. Hurricane Beryl is “wreaking havoc in parts of the Caribbean - and putting the role of climate change under the spotlight”, reports BBC News. The hurricane has a maximum sustained wind speed of more than 160mph (257km/h) and became the earliest category five Atlantic hurricane in records going about around 100 years, it continues. While the causes of individual storms are “complex, making it difficult to fully attribute specific cases to climate change”, high sea surface temperatures are seen as a key reason Beryl is so powerful, it adds.
I am a fan of the channel and think you do a great job. I have a different view on the impact of EV's on climate change. Firstly there are 8 billion people on the planet and I think that only a tiny fraction of these are looking to buy a vehicle, that alone an EV, in their lifetimes. Furthermore I think that modern and late model ICE car emissions globally are infinitesimal compared to the grotesque and prolific pollution across a full spectrum of pollutants by miners, energy produces, concrete, factories, logging and deforestation, manufacturing, pharmaceutical and all industries. These titans of our world, (owned by the super elite (BlackRock, Vanguard etc. (you know, the ESG proponents))), are pumping out pollutants like plastics, forever chemicals as well as CO2, methane and a thousand other pollutants at biblical scales. EV's may seem a big thing to us few rich people in the world but the footprint is insignificant and will never be enough to move the needle on climate change in any meaningful way. Worse in fact is, (until the EV materials Lifecyle improves efficiency by many orders of magnitude), the energy and climate impact spent to make and dispose of EV's is worse than ICE vehicles, when taken in aggerate. So let's not kid ourselves, until efficient energy storage is a solved problem, EV 's are polluting expensive toys of the rich and a possible dead-end on the path to a distant energy efficient future. I am not saying don't buy one, I am saying, keep it real.
In America, there is a significant percentage of car owners that would say "you can have my diesel powered pickup when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands."
Drive around the Philadelphia area. You see tons and tons of Teslas on the roads. I have seen an uptick in Rivians, Mach E’s and other EVs.
Where's IBM where's Kodak... Where's K Mart... Where's Sears... Where's any company that doesn't keep up with what their customers want ?
3 years with a Kona EV that we like a lot; we are waiting for the Model Y Juniper. I would never go back to ICE. Never met an EV owner that wants to return to ICE
Just keep doing what you have been doing. Teslas are so common here in California that the state is worried about how to pay for highways. This has been primarily paid for by gasoline taxes.
Very good vintern! ❤
I do note that Electric Viking is now adopting PHEVs because it props up the sales figures for EVs.
Their is no conspiracy, EV sales are slowing down because poeple who want one already bought one and the rest of the population down want an EV yet. Government incentives are also drying up which doesnt help
Now they are saying breathing clean air is bad for you. Desperation is coming
Nonsense. EV sales have slowed down because the early adaptor phase has pretty well ended, financial incentives and subsidies are gradually being reduced and fleet owners are having difficulty with accident repairs. Also, the number of hybrid sales has picked up significantly, most people opting out of ICE seem to be taking the hybrid path rather than full electric.
even though unemployment is still relatively low in the US, a lot of tech workers are losing their jobs recently. Tech workers and tech minded people are the customers of Tesla. So it's not unreasonable to guess that the slight downturn in the tech economy may hurt EV sales to some degree. I don't have concrete numbers to back it up, but that's my guess based on what believable media news we have. Based on conversations with friends, the prices are still too high for EVs. We have a model S and X, and I'm waiting for a Cybertruck when the price comes down, but I'm a tech worker and an early adopter, and I will never go back to fossil fuel based cars.
Friend has full autonomous transport. Its a horse. Just say home and off it goes. It eats grass so green. Its fully recyclable on its death. You can even eat it..
Horses still emit greenhouse gasses, he'd be (slightly) better off taking an e-bike(from an emissions per mile standpoint)😉
At the first generation of hybrid vehicles, the engineer had intentionally make the cars not appealing to potential customers for the same purpose.
As the well established ICE don't want to adopt the ICE technology so quick since they had dominated so long in that field.
Bought two BYDs, made 70K on them (so far), and not a single complaint. Supposedly, Teslas are even more reliable. Who can go back to petrol? It's all BS! I will never go back! Ever! The current car I am driving (BYD Seal Premium) is a better vehicle than the Ford Falcon I was driving for 20 years previously. My opinion. If people pushing BS? -- it does not work on me. Greetings Sammy. This is my opinion.
The major reason for the setback of EV sales is the high interest rate across countries in the world. A cars purpose is to get you from A to B. In an high interest rate environment consumers hold back to replace their old car which does the same as a new car would do.
I don't believe that Ford's Jim Farley are suppressing EV sales.
What to do about negative publicity for EVs? Nothing really. Word of mouth is a great seller. The Mudorc media doesn't have much power these days.
I believe Legacy Auto is slow walking the transition to electric vehicles but not for the reasons you think. The real problem is that these companies need to stay profitable, pay dividends, etc. Right now, no Legacy player has gone “all in” on EVs and made the necessary investments to produce EVs profitably. Hence, they cannot scale up aggressively as needed. Ford, at least, has recognized this problem and established a startup like skunkworks to try and address the issue. To preserve profitability, Legacy Auto has pushed their hybrid offerings while they try to improve manufacturing efficiency of their EVs. This is not some great conspiracy. It is simply a strategy to survive long enough to successfully make the transition to EVs
I love our EV it’s So So much better & fun to drive than our dinosaur 4 by 4 ICE , frankly it’s not so much about the environment more about the joy of driving a modern vehicle
Storage lots are not automobile graveyards. They are more like waiting rooms in doctor's offices and clinics. Storage lots are full of new cars waiting to adopt a human. Sure we we can live up to the expectations!
Share car companies will fight back to keep market share for a while. But slowing EV sales is more of a reflection of the state of the industry. Eevee's work pretty good in some situations. But not all. It's the other situations that are the majority.
I purchased my MYP last December because Tesla has the most efficient motors and the best charging network. And they update their cars’ software regularly OTA to keep them current. Why choose lesser brands?
OTA updates are now sttandard for most EVs. Nothing special about Tesla. Regarding efficiency I beg to differ. Independent tests have consistently shown that Tesla miles per kwh is middling. Tesla's charging nettwork in North America may be the best there because there is zero compettition but be warned; it is a monopoly or at best an oligopoly which would be illegal in many countries. It ties you to one or a few suppliers through ridiculous accounts or apps. In the UK and Europe there is plenty of compettition. Tesla cherry picks its charging locations leaving many areas with no Tesla charger for many miles. Fortunately tthe competition has far better coverage.
@@rogerphelps9939 I recently read that Mercedes’s OTA update requires owners to go to the dealership to install. And there’s just no comparison to Tesla’s software. Furthermore, the uptime among other charging networks are horrendous and unreliable. The horror stories about apps not working are a plenty.
There is no race to remove petrol ICE vehicles. To reduce emissions, we needed to prioritize the transport industry first, not cars. Only vested interests are pushing electric cars.
EV is the way to go for the future. Unfortunately the government decided to put 100% tariff on imports and making all EVs unaffordable. I guess the carbon emission reduction is out of the window now. 😭😭😭
How about some logical reasons. BEVs can self combust - maybe wait for non exploding batteries? Even if Chinese EVs weren't junk quality; they are dumping them undercost - maybe wait for them to shake out and see who's around that can provide parts, service and better quality control? Likely 50 of the 95 remaining BEV makers in China will be bankrupted by their own dumping practice as they are all losing billions. Wait for more environmentally better battery tech? Current Lithium tech not only self combusts, it has high mining extraction deficite; a more green alternative would be better, higher density, faster charging. All good reasons to wait.
US gasoline sales are down significantly.