Schrade Uncle Henry Bear Paw LB7 China vs. USA Pocket Knife comparison
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- Comparison of the Schrade Uncle Henry Bear Paw LB7 Lockback Pocket Knife. We look at a 2008 Taylors LLC China made knife vs. a Schrade 1993 USA made knife. These are each 5" Closed Lockbacks with 7Cr17Mov clip blades.
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Comments containing country of origin bashing are not welcomed in response to this video. This is a comparison for educational and informed purchase purposes. I ask that you please keep comments positive. Thank you - TK
Comments about country of origin are not welcomed yet you allow comments that promote China products? Looks like the beginning of the end.
@@mikehouser7587 I smell progressive thinking in this TK post.
After Schrade/Taylor Brands moved production to China you have no choice but to go with the Buck 110. Thank you Buck for keeping it domestic!
You do know Schrade is making USA knives again, right?
@@ThriftyKaniffy Really?? No, did not. That's great to hear! I'll check out their website. Thanks for the heads up :)
or Utica or Bear & Sons
@@ThriftyKaniffy Head up Thrifty Kaniffy. I purchased one of the new USA production 5OTG knives...A LOT to be desired. So much so I contacted Old Timer. They said to send the knife in and they would investigate. Waiting to hear the final resolution. You should do a review.
@@SlapShotRegatta22 I won't be reviewing anything in the Generational series, they just aren't up to snuff for the cost. If you like budget knives the USA only stance is going to be pretty limiting.
Who weighs the sheathes in a review!!! Only the best knife reviewers!! Here ya go!
Thanks Kynologist. Glad it was helpful to you.
My brothers & I carried LB7’s in the 70’s. I owned three before I tired of the weight on my belt. Because of the Chinese factor I just bought a 110 for the nostalgia of that type of knife. Will only carry the 110 if I take a bike ride. Great review, brought back some memories shared with my brothers, thanks.
Thanks for sharing your story Danny. LB7 is a real overlooked classic. The 110 ain't too shabby either. Take care.
Great video!! I have two Uncle Henry LB7s in my collection, one from the 80s and the second is definitely later but made in the USA. I bought them recently on eBay and I was fascinated by their quality. I had never tried them before and I liked them. I will never get rid of them. They, in fact, I will leave them to my son when he is older, I repeat, great comparison!!
Thanks for sharing your experience with them, Leonidas. Take care.
Great comparison. I have a Buck 110 from the early 1980's & it weighs 7.3 ounces.
Thanks for that bit of info William. Take care.
I had a similar pair but after some research I believed my US Schrade to be maybe 10 years younger than yours. I decided to hard use them for a test and the China lock back rounded quickly and no longer functioned... tossed it. My US is still so tight it's difficult to open and close. Crazy.
I'm sure they can take more abuse than most Chinese knives. Thanks for the feedback CCO.
I have an LB7 from the late 70's with four pins which I absolutely love. Quality stuff. Thanks for the video!
The LB7 is a pretty awesome knife. The USA versions are superior to the Chinese ones, but even still the Chinese ones are pretty darn good for what you pay.
Great comparison video i learned a lot, Nice knives & a great gift ...Thanks TK 🎄Merry Christmas
Thanks Jolly. Dad did well this year. Merry Christmas.
Thank you for your video. I'm more of a gun carrying person but I recently came upon a knife my Dad had and I have owned since his passing 28 years ago. It's a Schrade USA LB7 w/4 pins in the handle part, 7 pins total. I rarely even looked at it over the years but today I took an interest in it and have been reading and watching your video. I guess it's more of a collectors item than I imagined. My knife hasn't been used but it has been in its sheath since new except to handle a bit.
I believe I'll start carrying it now, I love it.
These best knives are those with sentimental value. Thanks for the comment.
Merry Christmas TK! A very nice gift,
Thank you Richard. Have a great holiday.
I love your mini anvil!! 😻 Thanks for sharing! ⚔️👍🏻
Thank you Stacey. It comes in handy quite often. Welcome to the channel.
The chicom one isn't bad, just thinner for edc. I watch Terry's knives and man stuff, and he's got me looking and buying china knives. I still buy USA and other countries.
Its good to keep an open mind OTD. Thanks!
I love them knives I find a lot of them knives at yard sales!!!!!! Thanks bud have a fantastic Christmas 🎄
You do better than I at yards sales then. I rarely find much of anything like that.
@@ThriftyKaniffy hey thrifty we have a huge flea market near where I live it’s open every Saturday and Sunday and they even have a inside!!!!!! They have everything there!!!!!! It’s called the Berlin farmers market!!!!!! It’s known all around jersey and more!!!!!! It’s super well known they come from everywhere to go there!!!!!! Thanks bud
What a wonderful gift from your son. Thanks for the comparison between these two, it was very interesting! Cheers, buddy.
I fully invite the Chinese knives. Still keeping an eye on U.S. quality and pricing.
Merry Christmas.
He's a good kid, takes after his Dad. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks David.
Hope you had a good one Rick. Thanks
Great video, I’m gonna be Hunting for US made Schrade Folding Hunter’s in the New Year. Have a great Christmas 🎅🏻.
You too Toad. Enjoy the holidays.
I just watched this again as I’m waiting for my USA made knife to arrive in the mail. I have all the recent Schrade versions except the UH version you mentioned. I also have an aversion to that plastic handle material, although I’m sure it’s durable. I’ve been lucky with all my Chinese Schrade’s, not a lemon in the bunch. Thanks for the interesting comparison.
I appreciate you watching Jon. Uncle Henry recently improved their staglon handle and I'll be taking a look at that in an upcoming LB8 review.
Excellent comparisons! The Chinese do a damn fine job with making knives. I have no problem with Chinese made knives. Merry Christmas 🎄🎁!
Thanks Legion. I thinks its a real good value knife at $24.
@@ThriftyKaniffy absolutely!
After watching this video, I received a four-pin USA version in the mail. I will say that it is a far nicer knife, as expected since it cost eight times as much when new. I was far too poor to afford one then, now they can be had for double the price, a bargain. Mine will never be used though, it is mint in the box, a piece of history.
They are a really solid knife. No sense tearing up something that nice. Thanks Jon.
Good for use ones are always available on ebay.
Something else interesting about the history, is that Service Merchandise sold both the Buck 110 and Schrade LB7 in the 80's. That company had print catalogues. Like Sears and J.C. Penney. Both 110 and LB7 had listings, pictures and prices on the same page. I was in my early teens and looked at that page, but bought my first two from a local hardware store. They cost about the same, one or the other was a little more. I can't remember.
I'm familiar with Service Merchandise and their catalog, I drooled over a lot of stuff in that catalog as a youngin'. I remember their jewelry counters being impressively large, but at that age I was probably much more into their toy offerings.
@@ThriftyKaniffy I think in the 80s Schrades were more of an upgrade than a knock-off.
It would not surprise me if the Schrades actually cost more than the Bucks back then.
It's like comparing a McDonald's burger to a home cooked dinner
Nice comparison, Michael.
The blade shape and grind changed drastically between the early years and later years of the U.S.A. ones. I remember going to Andersons general store in the mid 90s and going through the boxes to find one of the older manufactured ones vs the newer ones. Then going to Target about 1998 and could only find the newer ones. My first two I bought at a ServiceStar hardware in 1984 with some lawn mowing money and they are both 4 pins.
I also remember toward the end of the U.S.A. ones I was seeing some in the boxes I was looking through that had brass liners, with brass bolster pieces on top of the liners, like the wood scales.
Thanks for the details, Richard. I'm thinking the USA one I have is from the early 2000's so I may have to further investigate the older ones from the 80s and so forth. Thanks for watching.
I have one of them. Uncle Henry then R in a circle. Underneath is Schrade. Both in small fine script.
The other side is LB7 in old style script.
I assume this was the 1095 high carbon steel. Absolutley no tarnish
It's 4 pined brass liners with seperate brass bolsters.
Beautiful full grain walnut scales.
NO NUMBERS. All the sides and ends (including the scales) are fully chamfered / bevelled.
The sheath is a rich dark mahogany leather stamped Schrade and the blacksmith and anvil... with a (nickle) silver snap.
I've never seen another LB7 knife/sheath combination.
Oviously way too many steps to keep producing and put into mass production. It is so much more refined than the following versions.@@richardkrause3594
There is nothing wrong with Chinese made knives , they represent a good value for the money , but for me the U.S.A. tang stamp is worth the extra cost .
Or as my old man always said .........." Keep the money in the family "
Great Video. Peace , Be Free.
So long as said company is striving to be something we as American's would be proud of, I agree the money is well invested. Unfortunately, that isn't always the case. Thanks Michael.
Hi, i just bought this lb7 china made knife at basspro shop and i like it very much
Excellent. Glad I could help. Thanks Robert.
Love the video, I have a old lb7 knife with 4 pins made in 1979 and I absolutely love it it’s really beautiful. I also have some of the Chinese Schrade’s and I really like them too, they may not be made in America but they still are nice. I really like that you take time to do reviews on even the Chinese knives. Thanks for the again.
Thanks for the comments. I'm not a wealthy guy. I try to stretch the dollar as much as makes sense.
@@ThriftyKaniffy Right me too, I wish I could spend more money on knives. But I try to keep the peace with the wife too. Have a good one.
Thanks for the comparison and I hope that you will not see this as bashing as I have knives manufactured from all over. But, can you speak to how thick the edge is in comparison to the old and new LB7’s? I have a BTI produced Schrade 34OT and the grinds are way thicker behind the edge than the older USA models that I own. I would like to see them thin it out a bit and also move away from the 7CR steel if possible. Thanks.
I read when Taylor Brands purchased Schrade etc. they didn't buy the tooling, and set up shop in China. The machines in the US stayed here, but the production did not.
BUT we are now seeing MADE IN USA Old Timers once again! 👍
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
I've read the same thing about the tooling. They do a good job regardless. Thanks Seb.
taylor only bought the name , are the new usa using the old tooling ? i want a Schrade+ 125OT
That 93 Gift is superb.
Love to have one. But now I'm looking at a nice Buck 110. Looking on eBay but.... So it looks like new.
Thanks Rick. My son did a fine job finding a clean example. Good luck in your search.
@@ThriftyKaniffy CKW...for me.
HAVE A BEARPAW FROM THE 70S , BEEN MY HUNTING KNIFE ALL THAT TIME , AND STILL GOING . IN THE TRUCK NOW .
Thanks for the feedback Dwayne. It's a great knife.
Those are both great
Much appreciated Rusty.
Great video and info! My grandfather passed this knife down to me - it weighs in at 7.99oz? Not sure if you know any more info in that regard but it seems a bit heavier than what you showcased. Thanks again for the video & content!
They can vary in weight quite a bit depending on when they were made.
Watched this one again as I am carrying the LB7 I won today. I'm catching up on yard work.
Awesome. I appreciate you thinking of me to watch. Happy clean up.
One of my first knives was a buck 110 didn't know what I had inwish I would have taken care of it and keeped it
That's a shame. Lots of people used it as a hammer...well because you can.
I appreciate knives regardless of country of origin. Chinese knives can be excellent and allow people who might otherwise not be able to afford a decent knife to get one.
Well said North Star. I appreciate the fair assessment. Take care.
i have a 93 U.S lb7, the copper / brass details started turning green but its in perfectly working condition
The green is just a bit of tarnish it'll clean right up if that's your choice, but it actually preserves the under layers if you wish to leave it alone. Thanks Katori.
Get some NEVER DULL and that will make it pretty again and you will find lots of uses for the NEVER DULL around the house as well.👍
I recently bought an Uncle Henry LB8 brand-new from Bass Pro Shop. The thing was China made (which I don't necessarily have a problem with) but it came outta the package dead dull! I tried sharpening it but it wouldn't take an edge... sucks, because I really liked it, visually at least.
A month after that, I bought an Uncle Henry Golden spike. The handle was loose outta the package...
Needless to say, I'll be wary of buying Scrade knives from now on. If i want to carry a Folding hunter, I'll stick with my American made Buck 110.
Good opportunity to hone your sharpening skills with a knife like that.
Weird I've got that Schrade+ but the wood is lighter like the Chinese one. Has the same thick lighter leather holster and steel center pin. Nice knife
The wood varied quite a bit. Thanks for having a look, Charles
How nice of your son to get you the USA made Bear Paw. The Chinese do a great job on making the same knife. Merry Christmas TK.
He's a good son. The current model LB7 is a great value for the price. Thanks Jeroen.
I have 2 Uncle Henry LB7/LB8 knives with thumb screws. I haven’t seen any other like them. Do you have any information on why there doesn’t seem to be any others out there? Are they rare? Or was it a custom job? I inherited the knife, so I don’t know where they were purchased originally.
You must mean thumstuds, They are often an added accessory to allow one hand operation. The previous owner likely put them on.
I have one of these china made lb7's. I also have a bunch of 110's new and old. They arent close in comparison but the China made lb7 is light years better than cheapo generic 110 clones. I like mine. I wish I could find a decent NOS early LB7 that I could actually put hands on before I purchase it.
Thanks Dennis. I feel that way about a lot of knives. One great thing about places like SMKW you can have it in hand to look at before laying out the cash.
Ahhb nice. I have a nice old Schrade, and China made version not sure the brand but the quality is good for China, might be one of them
They do a good job on these, Chinese or not.
@@ThriftyKaniffy I went back and looked up the brand. It's a SHARPS knife. Pretty solid
are the ends solid brass? it's hard to tell from the vid but it looks like some silver showing through in places
I believe them to be brass.
I have a 1990s Schrade UH Bear Paw and a 1970s Buck 110 and a 2014 Buck 110. My older Buck 110 is thicker and heavier than the newer Buck 110, just like the older Schrade LB7. I don't have a scale but it feels just as heavy as my USA Schrade. The older Buck is a tad thicker (maybe a 1/32 of an inch) than the older Schrade but the older Schrade handles are a little longer (about 3/16 of an inch). All three are great knives but the USA Schrade seems to be the more robust of the three. I know it is sacrilege to say, but the newer Buck (2014) is at least as good if not a better knife than my older Buck 110. The handles are more rounded and more comfortable in my hand and it locks up real tight and the blade is perfectly centered. The older Schrade and Buck knives are harder to sharpen (harder steel I presume) and the newer Buck gets razor sharp very easily. JMHO.
Very interesting. Thanks for all the feedback, John.
Though I haven't weighed mine, I would bet dollars to donuts that my 1979, Kabar 1195 outweighs either one of them.
I'm pretty sure the Case Hammerhead outweighs all of these also. Thanks for the comment Rain.
I’ve noticed the lb7 has changed a bit currently from the Chinese version you have in the video, thinner and lighter. Any chance you could compare those?
There's a chance. Thanks for the info, Frickles.
Yeah, there are differences, but for $24 bucks there is nothing to complain about. What about the type of steel used in the two knives? Have any info about that?
Both of these use 7Cr17Mov Stainless blades. Thanks J.A.
I'm not sure if I'll be buying one of these, seeing as i would most likely end up buying a china made, modern production one.
Every old-timer, uncle Henry, or schrade knife I've ever bought had subpar steel and heat treatment to the point that it just would not take an edge.
Heck, i had a dream last night that i bought this same knife and the lock back mechanism broke.
The reason for me making this comment is that I'm simply divided on this knife.
For one, I want a folding hunter to replace my vintage Buck 110 that I no longer carry (it's a family keepsake, now) but for two, i just have never had a good experience with modern Taylor brand knives.
Well if you want a 110 replacement there's plenty of options from Buck themselves, that's probably be the route I'd take. Thanks, Steven.
@ThriftyKaniffy thanks, I think I'll be getting a 112 ranger with dymondwood scales.
got an unused 1985 one from an estate sale for $6. Thought it was a great deal cant beat american made steel. thought it was something special from the weight of it.
Nice deal! Thanks for sharing Kenneth. Welcome to the channel.
@@ThriftyKaniffy jusr bought a sheath with clip on it to clip onto my pocket. nice everyday defence knife
do you happen to know what the knife steel is on the american made lb7?
It's believed the USA made knives used 440A until around 2000 when they switched to 420HC, so it would depend on how old the knife is. Thanks, flare.
My neighbor has a Chinese one it does a good job.has pretty good steel better than some people.
They are pretty close. The Chinese have done a good job in production.
How are shades dated my buck has yr marks the scheade I had for 30 yr has same + as your newer model
They are difficult to date since they didn't change much. More they fall into a range.
The old lb7 are nice..
Yes, they did a fine job with them. I was quite happy with the gift. Thanks for watching, KS.
Hi have yuo ever seen a german Puma knife in this size.it look like thees,its perfekt and i am happy with, since around 1978. 😅
I'm only vaguely familiar with Puma knives. I know they are well regarded by some.
Mine has 4 pins on plates URS has 3. One of mine is steel the 3 others brass
Thanks, Precinct.
Does the Chinese Schrade have a one piece brass.
I wanna say no, but I'd have to double check to be sure.
No,it's not one piece brass.
How do I find the American made Uncle Henry knives?
The secondary market. Knife shows, ebay, collector's forums, etc.
@@ThriftyKaniffy Ok thanks! I been researching them and Buck. I knew to the older traditional knives,well ones that are worth messing with. I should have paid more attention growing up because that’s the type of knives I was around. Anyway thanks again.
@@Epesnell Glad to help.
Do all of the China made LB7 knives say made in China?
No you have to know the difference.
My only problem with chinese knifes is the heat treatment, 440c from brands like Ganzo can be OUTSTANDING, but there are a crapton of brands using D2 and either they are terrible or only decent, if you look hard enough, you might find some.good ones too
Buck does a great job with their heat treatment. Thanks Fenando. Welcome to the channel.
Schrade copied the Buck 110.I wonder if the backlock is as strong as the American one
Yes I know, they are very respectable copies, still probably not as stout as 110.
I got a tailor knife and showed it to a old worker from schrade. They looked at and said we didn't make that piece of junk.
We typically aren't very objective about things we are so close to.
They look almost identica.
Very close.
My 4 pin knife URS have 3 pins
OK. May be a bit older.
Your comment about the knife sheath are incorrect. I have the original UH/Schrade knife stamped USA with the dark sheath. Just saying.
Not incorrect, just that they varied a lot through the years.
@@ThriftyKaniffy Agreed…. and perhaps that could of been part of the message. You have a great presence in your presentation and should do well. My version has what looks like a hand stamped identification mark in the brass on the front lower part of the knife on same side of the blade as the blade markings Uncle Henry / SCHRADE + / LB7 USA. The ID reads AY8729 and the characters appear to have been individually stamped. Any thoughts on this for the heavy duty USA made folder?
It's disappointing to here you say that the knives are of an equivalent quality without actually using either one. I don't buy my knives just to look at, realistically this comparison was meaningless.
So I'm assuming you have your doubts about the Chinese version. That's fine, Jeff. 👌
I have bought Chinese knives and every one of them has horrible fit up, and sub par steel. Likely issues with bad or no heat treat.
Bad knives are bad knives, there's plenty made worldwide, not just China.