Why would anyone give this a thumbs down? The guy is giving you a great synopsis of what’s in a 500 page document that you don’t have to read! Thanks, 51 Drones, for doing the homework, saving us all time and confusion, and passing along some very useful information.
One reason would be for being so narrow minded & dismissive to the value of a FRIA (6:40). Having the FRIA option & the improvements that were made regarding FRIAs are very good things. If it had not been for RC Modelling, which happened at recognized & established flying sites, "Drones" would not have been invented. They are an offshoot from RC Helicopters. FRIAs are GREAT for experimentation, innovation or for learning how to fly. They will be crucial in building "Remote Control Flying Communities" They will be instrumental for Youth Educational Programs & for the future of Aviation. Not to mention the "Drone Racing" Community would prefer the options of having less weight on their performance aircraft.
The fear of somebody trying to track me down to steal my drone is exactly why I have a gun carry permit. People are just too damn crazy nowadays and you just never know what is going to happen.
So you’re really thinking that you can engage someone with your carry weapon while you are flying? You’re a lot more skilled than the rest of us mere mortals!
Same way they implemented that permit which is unconstitutional, chipping away at our rights. ... This bs remote id is more of the same. Congrats on your unrelenting participation in the police state prison state death state industrial prison complex system, where policing for profits and criminalizing the citizenry for victimless crimes continues to buy those new shiny black boots resting on the backs of all our necks. I do not consent to my constitutional rights being infringed, nor low level air space by the faa mafioso so it certainly seems. Can we go back to being Americans in America at least, sometime soon? Im all for rule of law, order and the problem is We the people aren't holding the reins anymore. Everyone's going to just go along to get along again? Remember the 2020 selection? CLov - ID on1 niner plann _ Demic and nothing changing citizenry, you ever going to say, "ENOUGH"?
Yes, your hand and eyes are busy then you flying. Unless you attach the gun on the dron and modify auto track firmware :) So once your signal interrupted it return home and clean landing zone :) hahaha...
You already know thieves and trouble makers will be staking out certain areas looking for drones/controllers and other camera equipment to steal. If you are in a remote area (most flyers), whats stopping them from subduing you and landing your own drone back to your location and stealing it. Why the FAA would allow controller tracking to the GENERAL PUBLIC is beyond me, the majority of hobbyists and professionals didn't want that feature. Pack that heat ma man
It'll be interested to see if cops ride around looking for drones that aren't broadcasting and then harassed the rpic's. They already sit on the side of the road automatically reading license plates. Maybe now they'll be reading our aircraft as well...
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 police are being defunded anyways and they are not allowed to enforce federal laws (like turning over illegal immigrants to ICE) so good luck to the FAA. Plus what does this accomplish other than put more onerous rules on people who could once enjoy a fun hobby without all the BS? Did the FAA happen to mention that in their 472 page document? This system is not ADS-B compliant so it doesn't even offer manned aircraft the ability to detect where the drone is.
@TakeDeadAim Really? 51 Drones didn't mention those. So what is the rule supposed to accomplish? And how does a manned aircraft detect the drones with the transmitter they are going to require on drones?
@@sizzelot They've been talking about a dsb for a while. They don't want adsb out on drones because it'll overwhelm the adsb receivers in airplanes. they don't want airplane pilots looking out for drones as they want it to be the other way around. I do agree with your sentiment that it's overreaching and generally a bunch of BS.
Those modules for legacy are gonna be a major hassle, if they will even work at all. The FAA states the modules MUST prevent the drone from taking off if it's not transmitting it's ID information, which I don't even see how that would be possible with legacy drones. I consider myself a safe and responsible drone pilot and follow all the rules, but I WILL NOT be using Remote ID on my drones unless the pilot location broadcasting is removed or hidden from the general public. It's absolutely insane the FAA thinks it's ok for the general public to have that information and be able to confront/assult drone pilots! If the FAA really wants people to follow the rules and get the license and everything else, the FAA needs to actually start DEFENDING drone pilots, not just making rules and handing out fines. Start punishing people that harass and interfere with drones or drone pilots, confront cities and counties that think they own the airspace and use stupid laws preventing drones where they should be legal according to FAA airspace rules.
Ok, so here is my question: How is your drone going to know that it is transmitting the data required to allow it to power up? A hard wired feedback loop? An transmitter receiver system? Maybe I need to protect this $50 part by surrounding it in a mesh wire cage in case it crashes.
This is only required for "Standard" (integrated) Remote ID, not Modules. Compare Part 89.310(c) [Standard Remote ID] to 89.315(c) [Broadcast Modules] www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-F/part-89
@@stevo4535 I understand, but government agencies can change their minds at any time for any reason, or for no reason. Japan has had it set at 200g for awhile, but tomorrow it will be set at 100g because of advances in sub 250g quads.
The concern is the weight itself, not the speed they can achieve imo. a 600g quad travelling at 50 mph does a whole lot more damage than a quad sitting pretty around 250 at the same speed.
@@jpsalis I know but I don't believe this has anything to do with property damage or safety. It's about control and eventually having the ability to sell the airspace to the big companies that want it to make money off of. They can't afford for a delivery drone to get hit by a 200 gram rc aircraft and drop out of the sky. They'll sell it to the masses as a safety concern but I don't recall any stories of innocent bystanders being hospitalized by drones. Even if it was about safety, eventually 3 inch quads will commonly be able to exceed 100mph. Some already can.
In reality, our only hope is an act of congress or a class-action lawsuit. And I think we have a bit of a case against them if someone dies because of remote ID; we might be able to sue the FAA for 2nd degree murder: "Why do guns, devices meant to kill, have less restrictions and a constitutional amendment going for them while drones have to be regulated to the extent that recreational and commercial operators, who rarely, if ever, intend to terrorize or kill individuals? Why do firearms have similar restrictions to buying furniture while drones have similar restrictions to operating nuclear power plants?" You're free to use this clause (public domain) for whatever the hell you want
Thanks for the shout out Russ!!! Also THANK YOU for reading all 470 pages and breaking it down so well!! I’m very excited about nigh time flying and no more recurrent tests.
Thanks for taking the time to go through this huge proposal in detail! I love your commitment to keeping us informed so we can enjoy the hobby safely and legally.
You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar! As a Part 107 guy, I go out of my way to ensure that I fly responsibly and in a professional manner every time I launch. I don't take great umbrage with most of this ruling, but there are portions that make me nervous. As you stated (an many have echoed in the comments), I fully expect this ruling to be amended as the deadline for RID approaches. Thank you, Russ for your dedication to the hobby and for providing outstanding content and education for all of us!
Thanks for reading the entire ruling and sharing the key points. I wonder how many millions of sub 250 gram drones will be sold before the FAA rules are modified to regulate them? Don't get too comfortable with the rules of the game, because the goal posts will be moved again and again.
To be frank, the weight cutoff for remote ID and registration should have been closer to 500 grams (about 1 pound). Not 250 grams. And on the FAA killing the low cost toy drone market, there is a reason DJI actually supported these restrictions. They have the resources to comply and want to own the entire drone market.
I hate everything happening in the world. Its ALL ABOUT CONTROL. Somebody out there wants to control some aspect of your life and people are just letting it happen. Unbelievable. Thx for the video Russ
I'll restate what I said in a previous comment: "Why do guns, devices meant to kill, have less restrictions and a constitutional amendment going for them while drones have to be regulated to the extent that recreational and commercial operators, who rarely, if ever, intend to terrorize or kill individuals? Why do firearms have similar restrictions to buying furniture while drones have similar restrictions to operating nuclear power plants?" It's simply an absurd set of rules for a trivial issue in the United States. No people have ever died to civilian use of drones, and it's already illegal for civilians to weaponize drones. Many countries already recognize this; even China's communist party has not implemented remote ID and doesn't appear to plan to.
the FAA’s decision to have drones broadcast their location might let observers track your movements, figuring out where you go, where you live, and where and when you receive packages, among other examples.
Thumbs up for printing it AND reading it all. I was about to print and then I saw the page count. Nice summary (not that I'm happy with everything contained therein).
Sadly, the FAA lumped all model aircraft into this regulation. So, those of us that fly both multi rotors and fixed wing will be affected as well. Part 107 as one of those type of pilots would get extremely expensive very quickly if each airframe is required to be registered and have remote ID in the future. Thank you for taking the time to do this video.
There's already a website that appears to be in the UK or Europe that provides a hack to unlock your drone to fly anywhere. There's a 40-50 dollar price tag.
Thus is born the next generation of Karens. "Hello, Police! Some guy is flying a drone at this intersection that doesn't show up on my Drone to Phone app on my phone. I think he is a rogue flyer. Sure... I will get his license plane number.".
Yes. We need to start advocating for the rights to use retail consumer devices with out govt oversight. Tax is on the way too. Remember we started a civil war over a tea tax of like half a cent? Idk maybie its my Massachusetts and new hamshire roots coming through the surface.
Real ID is going to hurt commercial use as well. The same requirement for broadcasting launch site location applies to them which means they to will have to set aside funds for launch site security and additional insurance costs. My feeling is that this is a class action suit waiting to happen.
It’ll only “end the hobby” for those pilots who see it as a comply-or-quit decision. The rest of us will be flying rogue and enjoying this hobby for a LONG LONG time.
Russ - thanks for reading the report to save us from having to do it! I appreciate it. What I don't get is why the general public needs to have access to our flight info and our location. I understand law enforcement having access using some sort of restricted app. But I can't see why the public should be allowed to do that. Makes no sense.
After some additional reflection I have some suggestions. But first, Russ, I was remiss earlier by not thanking you for doing the research, reading these long, arduous and mind numbing documents, and providing insight to those of us in the drone community who want to learn and have a desire to operate within the rules. Now, for my suggestions: (1) The FAA is best influenced by public opinion and bad press. We need to engage with major news organizations to get our concerns elevated to a level where the FAA feels compelled to take a more thoughtful approach (2) When bad things do happen as a result of these new rules we as a community need to do our best to hold the FAA accountable (3) I know several groups have litigation pending. They’ve just been waiting for the new rules to be placed in the federal register, which will likely happen in January 2021. We - the drone community - need to support these legal efforts. I would encourage creating GoFundMe sites to provide these trailblazers with the cash they will need to take on the Federal Government (4) Finally, the drone community needs an association that can speak to these topics with a single voice. I believe there are a couple out there already. I suggest these groups come together as one, promote their prominence and value to those in the community who are not already members, and lobby our government officials on the issues that matter most to us. We’re small fish in a big commercial pond. We will not get what we want/need if we do not come together. Thanks again Russ for all your great work. You’re one of the best out there on TH-cam. Here’s hoping you have a healthy, safe, prosperous and Zoom free New Year.
I don't have an issue with the FAA being able to access my flight records if they have a legitimate reason too. What I have a huge issue with though is my information being broadcast to just anyone, and you know apps allowing access to this information will be popping up. Especially if I'm flying on my own property. Let's face it, there are some jackasses in this hobby that deserve to face legal consequences. But there is NO reason for some random person to be able to access my flight information.
100% agree with this... I've got a license to carry for reasons like this because I don't want just my thousands of dollars of equipment that I've worked hard for try and get stolen because some punk decided to be a d bag and thought he could get away with it... The only people I dont mind having access to it would be law enforcement or emergency personnel. The average person should not be able to access this information.. Its like the FAA want bad things to happen to operators because they clearly don't care for our safety......... You can disagree with me but this is not cool for the safety of the hobbyist or part 107 like myself. 😡😡
@@RyanGr33n very true to that, but I'm sure the news these days because how corrupt they are will broadcast this so the karens can become the neighborhood watch of drones lol.
@@Brandon-mo8np I'm more concerned with the professional criminals investing in an app to find controlling stations that they can then rob. I own a real estate imagery company and if some jackass shows up while I am working, I could lose several thousand dollars in equipment between the drone, camera equipment, lighting, etc... It's not uncommon on some shoots to have 10k worth of stuff. This rule is ridiculous! Govt agencies should have access, but the general public should not.
Randomized aircraft hex codes are going to be a thing soon. You’ll have to pay or it more than likely, which I don’t agree with, but the FAA has been working on anonymity with ADS-B for a few years now. At this time you can go to a site like adsbexchange.com and track any aircraft in the world as long as it has a transponder and is being pinged by a ground station. However, soon, it may be difficult, if not impossible to know whose aircraft it is whether it be a Gulfstream 750 or a Phantom 4 pro, etc.
Finally - a clear, understandable review of this new body of regulation. Thank you! This is the best explanation I've seen so far. I'm two things that may add some weight to my thoughts - a retired Federal Cop and a retired Commercial Aircraft Pilot. Your concerns are legitimate - Federal agencies are not famous for using common sense, although this is not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. I think there is a real chance that we can get the Location requirement altered for Part 107 flights. Happy New Year.
Step one: Retrofit older drones with remote id module Step two: Build Tiny Faraday cage to place around remote id module allowing it to transmit, however, not very far. Step three: Profit
It appears to be "Wifi OR Bluetooth." I still haven't dug in to read which versions of BT are allowed. Class 4 in the Bluetooth standard is 0.5 mW with a range of about 0.5m. It's far from clear to me that people on the ground will be able to receive this signal unless the UAV is pretty close and not moving much.
I am so happy I found your channel, and the fact you take the time to do what you do. Thank You! I have been flying RC airplanes for over 20 years. Things are a lot more complicated now. You have given me a ton of info I needed to know. It used to be I just had to worry about channel overlap. If I was not at a flying field I was just in my yard with a foamy (many will not even know what that is now I bet)
Just want to say, good job. I’m just starting the hobby and your channel has been very informative. Subsequently I’m also affiliated with the law enforcement community and the knowledge you present will help me educate others.
Hi Russ, I have a question. Reading the current ruling, do you believe that manufacturers can comply with the Remote ID Module (option 2) requirements for legacy drones simply by issuing a firmware update? Most DJI products already have the hardware necessary to gather GPS and telemetry data needed to meet the needs of Remote ID, so it may just become a question of whether a given drone model has the required Bluetooth and/or WiFi transmitter right? If DJI issued such a firmware update, does the drone become a Standard drone, i.e. option 1, or is it still option 2 as it wasn’t originally manufactured with native Remote ID capabilities?
This is a good summary, thank you for your effort to keep UAV Pilots informed. I can see both sides of the controversy over the Pilot Location Issue and believe that the reason for this rule is indeed valid... Back in the late '80s I started learning to fly...it was fun until we nearly had a mid-air collision. Neither my Instructor or I saw the other plane... and the ATC was unaware of it's presence in Controlled Airspace... from that moment I learned that the more Eyes you have looking out for the 'other guy' that might take YOU out the Safer EVERYONE is. It doesn't matter if I was Flying, operating a Locomotive or a Motorcoach, or even my own pickup... I still believe Everyone is Safer with some sort of Co-Pilot and if you want to ride along with me, you better understand that you have to keep Your Eyes Peeled, too because NEITHER OF US IS PERFECT!!! So, take a Buddy with you...if for no other reason than to distract 'Karen' while you fly ... and dial 911 before she does.
I see the Remote ID working a lot like a transponder in any aircraft but really don't like broadcasting my location in the blind to anyone. If it has to be, make it secure the information so just FAA could see it and law enforcement. I don't understand any logical reason to transmit the pilot's physical location to the public. Will cause an unsafe environment for the pilots and the public since we will have to watch our backs while flying. FAA has a lot of work to do.
Your reply was exactly what most of us are thinking. Absolutely ridiculous that the general public can find the person flying the drone. Completely unneccessary!!
Yeah I agree. I mean drones aren’t cheap and if someone wants to find where the pilot is and where the drone will come back too there goes your stuff and putting the pilot who just wants to fly around in a potential dangerous environment.
Similar to COVID violation reporting: using the public(or friends & neighborhoods) to expand enforcement. It’s basically an APB to rat out anyone & everyone.
But won’t ppl just be able to see where you are- ? I mean if you have to keep Vlos at all times anyways it doesn’t sound too hard for someone to figure out where someone is sitting/ standing..?
Russ, Once again you are the go-to guy for rules and safety in the drone flying world. By the way, I took you up on your advice and achieved my Part 107 certificate in the past couple months. I agree it's worthwhile as the FAA continues to change the regulations. Thanks.
Thanks I spent 4 hours reading and gave up. when I saw they ignored the station safety aspect. BUT what everyone seems to be forgetting wifi bluetooth has a very short range. In all my electronics I think the max signal distance I have ever seen is 100' so really only someone who can see you already will get the signal....
That is a good point. So it's a tool for the Karens who already know you are in the area. That's much better than it being live on the internet for the entire planet to monitor.
Carry your weapon when you fly now boys. I've seen how some people react when they see a drone and it ain't pretty. If drone haters can easily find the drone operators, the operators are definitely going to be less safe. And isn't safety supposed to be the name of the game these days?
Wow! This took a different turn! I'm hoping that it wouldn't come to that. But definitely ain't taking any shit from anyone that doesn't have the authority.
Here comes tons of drones that weigh less than 250 gr. I dont think that remote id modules will be exchangeable , I think they may be specific in that each drone will have a serial number and this will be broadcast with the other info that way they can pin it to a specific owner much like car registration, plane registration , ship and boat registration, ect.
So anybody can just scan my flight and then complain because they don't understand the laws to law enforcement... who also don't understand the laws, but are probably bored enough to come and hassle me. Yeah, no. Let's see them put that type of tech into cars so that anybody can call out speeders first. This is a massive overreach and exactly the kind of corpo-BS I'd expect from the wife of Mitch McConnell. Trying to get rid of hobbyists in favor of big companies that want all the airspace.
@@scottoswald7535 We would do better to focus on the Drone stuff and not divide ourselves based on what we think about Obama's McConnell's Trump's pelosi's Schumer's BLM KKK and all the rest of that crap. Leave that in the groups for cable news...
Thanks, great summary! In response to your comments about FAA-Recognized Identification Areas (FRIA), I'm hoping this will incorporate AMA fields. Yes, these typically cater to the R/C fixed wing community, but our AMA recognized field exists solely for drone racing where we will see 30+ drone pilots gather.
Really appreciate the time that you took in reading this and sharing in what you have learned. One of the great things about the drone community. Keep on flying Russ.
@@francisbrady2739 I fly with a tablet... no phone (which I can turn off) - I wonder if I'm grounded if there's no way location information is relayed out
My thoughts exactly! When I take my Mavic Pro out to the forest and mountains, how the hell are they gonna know? I use a WiFi only tablet to fly and once I’m out of range...???
Wi-Fi is not limited to the range you might find in a home network. There are drones using Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n) that communicate over at least a few km (way past VLOS for busybody Karens and narcs). The FCC likely allows for more EIRP on 2.4GHz and 5GHz than routers are configured for.
Why would the remote ID device have to be on the drone? UAV position, speed, altitude and unique identifier are already broadcast back to the controller. Could just be a firmware update to the controllers?
I can see all the "Karens" in the neighborhood acting as the Drone Police, heaven help us. Maybe the solution is to become good friends with rough looking biker guys and have them with you when you fly.
Pedro Vergara I'm guessing you missed the joke I was making there. Try to picture some local "Karen" starting to attack you when your rough looking biker friends come up to her and ask, "Do you have a problem with that???"
As always, solid information. Thank you Russ, for all you do for our community. As a 107 pilot, I could not agree with you more about people getting certified. It's a wise choice! Happy New Year's to you and your family. I pray many blessings for you in the next year ahead!
So ... with respect to remote ID and privacy .... is not the privacy of the pilot as important as that of the humongous number of people complaining about camera eqipped UAVs??? I live in the UK (originally from Bronx NY) and this must be the most surveyled society in the world with an estimated ONE camera for every EIGHT or so people!!! Talk about paranoid? This shit is really gonna kill the passion which governments just love doing to just about anything people love to do :( Just throwing it out there. Love yer channel BTW ;)
Hey here's an idea for pilots to secure their location - set up a very large, high electrified dog kennel and stand inside it when flying your drone. (Sarcasm)
So basically I’ll need to retrofit my old drones and deal with buggy software and I’ll either need to run or have a gun to keep from being robbed. Sounds like a blast. Also I wonder if we can get a VPN for drones? 😅
Russ, thanks for doing this video. So much better and informative than your last one. I burned the ink out of my printer after I watched your last video. The legalese in the 470 page report is typical government coverup clarity for sure but, now I no longer suffer from insomnia after reading and rereading the report.
Not everybody replaces their aircraft every 3 years. I have been building model aircraft for over 50 years and multirotors since before DJI sold a Ready To Fly Drone. There are 32 fixed wing aircraft and 12 rotorcraft in my workshop and all have flown within the last 2 years. I just got a Mavic Air but every one of my other drones was hand built by me. Several of those fixed wings are over 40 years old and have flown in Japan, Oman, Egypt, and Diego Garcia. This morning I flew an 8 year old F-450 quadcopter frame with DJI Naza Controller with Gopro. After landing I flew a 40" wingspan acrobatic model. Model aircraft flyers have coexisted with full scale aviation since before the Wright brothers. What is happening now is silly, asinine, and a bureaucratic waste. I believe that most people will IGNORE the FAA UAV rules just as they INGORED the FCC and their CB Radio rules.
Yet another great review of the new rules by another TH-camr; thank you! I read all of the document also and it's yet another quagmire of legal jargon written by hired lawyers (Par for the course for FARs.😉) I must add that there doesn't seem to be any clear guidance for FPV racers. I can't find provisions allowing for spotters or other means to satisfy the requirement for flying line of sight only. Pretty silly for obvious reasons! Furthermore, those who'll fly at a club, the 12 month deadline for registering for a FRIA is removed and there is no intention for phasing out FRIAs as originally proposed. Also, there is no allowance for those who don't equip that don't fly at a club field. I like that you brought up concerns for protecting individual pilot's safety from angry tattletalers. There is also a danger of violating UAV pilots rights under the law! The FAA seems to be indifferent about this and expect everyday laymen to educate other laymen what the FARs demand. I would hazard to guess that when one is working in the safety of a FSDO or a cushy office in DC ,the agents think "Eh! those other guys will figure it out". Blue skies and happy flying my friend! 🙂
@@MrApache64AH In this case, selling my quadcopter *is* fighting. I have no leverage. But DJI will lose sales and they'll fight to keep their bottom line intact. Plus Google Wing and others will fight to change this latest ruling over privacy rights and remote pilot personal safety and security concerns.
Lol, “ I’m sure the comments will point it out”. You got that one right for sure Russ. Thank you much for this video, seems that it all isn’t going to be as bad as I thought it was going to be. I knew your channel was going to take off, there is not another drone/tech channel on here that deserves success more than 51 Drones. You have done an awesome job for sure!
Meanwhile we have full size plane pilots trying crazy stuff. One dived at our court house during the festival and just missed it. He crashed later and got killed. They have flown over our model plane field before only 4 feet high and did stalls over us.
Your channel seems to be exactly what the majority of drone owners care about regarding general drone hobby flying. Very strange time especially for those of us looking for a new drone. Buy now knowing what changes are coming in 18 months? I for one am in the market, starting to do SAR and thermal inspection work. I could by 3 different drones, but have the budget for one! Thanks again for your work.
Great content, thank for your time on this. One idea that I commented to FAA that they apparently did not pick up on but may still be implemented would be to have the code being broadcasted split into two segments. The first segment would contain basic drone data like an ID number or session number that would be available any cell phone inquiring. The full data with controller location would be only available to law enforcement and some other 3rd party monitor. So someone sees a drone they can get the ID/session number and call the law or they can pay a fee and perhaps get the info. When they do pay, the 3rd party sends the drone operator a record of who inquired and perhaps real time notification. Just a thought. Super complex it is.
@@briangray6372 I always made sure that my crystals were secured and tapped in. Especially when I flew large planes with 50cc engines...LOL Glad I never sold my Futaba 9 Channel TX.
@@marshallwells3243 my first quad XAircraft X450 the prop flew off, I rebuilt that and lost the crystal on the second flight. every little thing teaches, one way or another.
Pretty sure these regs cover them also. so we would still be legally bound as they are based on weight not control type. regardless WiFi or FM transmitter can still be tracked without RiD
Thanks again, Russ. I'm loving your videos. Can't believe it took until now to find them. Question: what drone doesn't have exposed blades? I have read the "over people" thing several times and am unaware of any drones that I can afford running on jet propulsion or other non-propeller technology.
If I understood right, as of now no internet connection required, however when it is and you are in the middle of nowhere.. your 2500 hundred drone won't fly. Hmm.. maybe there is a method to their madness.
Very good summary. For most very little or gradual changes. To put into context my final comment, I am an instrument rated pilot and a recreational model aviator 30+ years who flies RC aerobatic to $15k turbine jets. So flying RC in designated flying sites is common and we will likely experience little interference. Now my fun rant that will likely rattle a few of your viewers. Frankly if a few people don't like or don't want to carefully share the airspace and they feel the FAA shouldn't impede with flying their toy flying cameras they will just stop flying all together, that will be better for the rest of us. I for one don't want careless uninformed yahoos out there anyway. It seems like those who know the least will sound off with the loudest complaints. OK, as I said this should rattle a few :)
Russ, WOW, this is an outstanding review of the new FAA Remote ID Ruling. Thank you very much for all the hours you poured into the making of this video.
I am a beginner, and wanted to get into the hobby. I purchased a DJI FPV drone. After buying it, I realized that I had to register the drone, pass a test, and now these Remote ID regulations. Frankly, is not worth my time. The risks are simply too great. I am a reasonable person and would not do all the stupid things that prompted the creation of these regulations, but the entire hobby is ruined for me. The good news, I am still within the return window, so back it goes. I will stick to below 250 grams quads, and fly mostly indoors. Thank you for a very informative video.
Well, there's that, plus this 'defunding the police' movement happening - drone flying will be way too far down the list for police to act on reports - maybe?
Yeah, it will be be real risky around me. I'll be looking to take down every single one I see. Eventually the big corp. Will learn this is not a viable option and abandon it. Just a matter of time.but in the meantime... birdshot by the case..😁
Thank you for clearing this up. I was reading the regulations and was confused when they mentioned that sub 250g drones would be required to have cages. I misunderstood that those regulations applied to everything and not just to over people flights. Awesome work as always!
Also true, there ARE times when civil disobedience is a good thing. But if you plan to do this, FIRST, GET ORGANIZED. Do it as part of a movement, not a lone resistor. YOU will get a fine, y'all will get the charges dismissed, no foul. First time, anyhoo. Go big or go home. (Or go under 250 grams... 😎)
@@thesoundsmith I’m going to “get organized” to safely fly my drone in my yard and in public spaces where they’re allowed? I’ll comply when every vehicle driver is publicly broadcasting their name, address and telemetry to local law enforcement.
@TakeDeadAim So, how exactly will “everyone be able to identify” someone flying a UA that is not broadcasting its telemetry to anything other than the pilot’s tx (i.e. doesn’t have a remote ID module), like my current fleet of non-DJI drones? Your logic is flawed.
@TakeDeadAim Do you know your way around “binding” of radio signal frequencies? Also, Joe Civilian and Joe Police Officer will not have the equipment technically capable of triangulating the position of either the aircraft or the tx. Beside which, Joe Police Officer will have “drone nuisance complaint” at the bottom of their response priority list. But hey, drop the hobby or fly 100-ft figure eights at your local AMA field... it’s (still) a free country. 😎
Can I flyover residential homes at 200 feet? I do not have my Part 107 certificate. I have the mini 2.. plus I just got the new Air 2S today, do I still need to register?
I'm curious your take on Part 107 for those who want to fly sub-250 grams routinely. It seems like if you do not have a part 107, those craft are exempt. But if you do, then all drones require it. For example, if you have your Part 107, how will that affect tiny whoops? What about small toothpick drones? When I originally that remote ID would apply for those with part 107 even under 250 grams, that would seem like a disadvantage of getting a Part 107. Am I missing something?
"Drone" used to be a dirty word in the hobby. You would get chastised for using the term because people thought that would bring the FAA in and screw with us. Well, here we have the FAA screwing with us lol.
I don't think it was us small time people flying drones or any other aircraft that brought the FAA the FAA got involved when big companies got involved. The claims of various risks associated with unmanned aircraft were way overblown and manipulated to push the narrative that the government needed more control :-(
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 The government always seeks control, lol. I mean, I remember the shock when that (iirc) NY kid got killed by his own 700-class rc helicopter a few years ago. But it was shocking because it never happens. People in this hobby are generally safe, because no one wants to ruin a $1000+ aircraft doing stupid things.
@@51Drones A million...but I can use Google. Ha! One is...do you know if there’s an iPad mount (air) for the controller? If you do, please drop me an affiliate link. Thanks, Now back to learning. Happy New Year! 🎆
An excellent summary and analysis as always. The only thing I disagree with entirely is the section about destroying the toy drone market. There are already under 250 gram toy grade drones on the market. Lots of them. From some of the same companies that have made toys for years. And they’ve got a suite of features too like GPS, altitude hold, etc. America wasn’t the only market of interest to deal with so they have been getting ready with these drones for a while now. So as long as the 250g stays, they’ll be fine. The problem is that they may just end up lowering or eliminating the 250g exclusion in the future. Japan already did lower theirs, as an example. The rush to create amazing under 250g drone could ironically become the death of that unrestricted category.
I've a feeling that was a facet of the FAA's plan for some time now..attrition is the cheapest form of control. OTOH, I'd say that the likelihood of people building blacked-out UAVs on the sly, for themselves and perhaps others, will increase exponentially.
Thanks for the awesome overview! Quick question... You mentioned the older Mavic drones (original pro, pro platinum, ... ) would have to have the retrofitted module. Does that mean that the new DJI drones, Mavic air 2, pro 2 etc would be compliant under option 1 and not need the module?
Why would anyone give this a thumbs down? The guy is giving you a great synopsis of what’s in a 500 page document that you don’t have to read! Thanks, 51 Drones, for doing the homework, saving us all time and confusion, and passing along some very useful information.
One reason would be for being so narrow minded & dismissive to the value of a FRIA (6:40). Having the FRIA option & the improvements that were made regarding FRIAs are very good things. If it had not been for RC Modelling, which happened at recognized & established flying sites, "Drones" would not have been invented. They are an offshoot from RC Helicopters.
FRIAs are GREAT for experimentation, innovation or for learning how to fly. They will be crucial in building "Remote Control Flying Communities" They will be instrumental for Youth Educational Programs & for the future of Aviation. Not to mention the "Drone Racing" Community would prefer the options of having less weight on their performance aircraft.
The fear of somebody trying to track me down to steal my drone is exactly why I have a gun carry permit. People are just too damn crazy nowadays and you just never know what is going to happen.
I agree, I also carry now when I am out flying.
So you’re really thinking that you can engage someone with your carry weapon while you are flying? You’re a lot more skilled than the rest of us mere mortals!
@@Mr89Falcon are you even mortal level if you can't think of dropping your controller?
Same way they implemented that permit which is unconstitutional, chipping away at our rights. ... This bs remote id is more of the same. Congrats on your unrelenting participation in the police state prison state death state industrial prison complex system, where policing for profits and criminalizing the citizenry for victimless crimes continues to buy those new shiny black boots resting on the backs of all our necks. I do not consent to my constitutional rights being infringed, nor low level air space by the faa mafioso so it certainly seems. Can we go back to being Americans in America at least, sometime soon? Im all for rule of law, order and the problem is We the people aren't holding the reins anymore. Everyone's going to just go along to get along again? Remember the 2020 selection? CLov - ID on1 niner plann _ Demic and nothing changing citizenry, you ever going to say, "ENOUGH"?
Yes, your hand and eyes are busy then you flying. Unless you attach the gun on the dron and modify auto track firmware :) So once your signal interrupted it return home and clean landing zone :) hahaha...
so....concealed carry when flying a $2000 drone?
LMAO, that's what I currently feel like when I fly in Chicago. Now add RID, good bye drone
@@bbbeenn32 hrm like gangs of thieves witgh fishing nets?
Don't do concealed carry..put it on your hip for god and anybody to see.
be well and stay safe
bf
Yes...little G. I speaking of the big brother. God would know either way. Just sayin'.
You already know thieves and trouble makers will be staking out certain areas looking for drones/controllers and other camera equipment to steal. If you are in a remote area (most flyers), whats stopping them from subduing you and landing your own drone back to your location and stealing it. Why the FAA would allow controller tracking to the GENERAL PUBLIC is beyond me, the majority of hobbyists and professionals didn't want that feature.
Pack that heat ma man
I'll continue to fly like I did when I started in the 80's thank you.
Hell yeah
It'll be interested to see if cops ride around looking for drones that aren't broadcasting and then harassed the rpic's. They already sit on the side of the road automatically reading license plates. Maybe now they'll be reading our aircraft as well...
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 police are being defunded anyways and they are not allowed to enforce federal laws (like turning over illegal immigrants to ICE) so good luck to the FAA. Plus what does this accomplish other than put more onerous rules on people who could once enjoy a fun hobby without all the BS? Did the FAA happen to mention that in their 472 page document? This system is not ADS-B compliant so it doesn't even offer manned aircraft the ability to detect where the drone is.
@TakeDeadAim Really? 51 Drones didn't mention those. So what is the rule supposed to accomplish? And how does a manned aircraft detect the drones with the transmitter they are going to require on drones?
@@sizzelot
They've been talking about a dsb for a while. They don't want adsb out on drones because it'll overwhelm the adsb receivers in airplanes. they don't want airplane pilots looking out for drones as they want it to be the other way around. I do agree with your sentiment that it's overreaching and generally a bunch of BS.
Those modules for legacy are gonna be a major hassle, if they will even work at all. The FAA states the modules MUST prevent the drone from taking off if it's not transmitting it's ID information, which I don't even see how that would be possible with legacy drones. I consider myself a safe and responsible drone pilot and follow all the rules, but I WILL NOT be using Remote ID on my drones unless the pilot location broadcasting is removed or hidden from the general public. It's absolutely insane the FAA thinks it's ok for the general public to have that information and be able to confront/assult drone pilots! If the FAA really wants people to follow the rules and get the license and everything else, the FAA needs to actually start DEFENDING drone pilots, not just making rules and handing out fines. Start punishing people that harass and interfere with drones or drone pilots, confront cities and counties that think they own the airspace and use stupid laws preventing drones where they should be legal according to FAA airspace rules.
Ok, so here is my question: How is your drone going to know that it is transmitting the data required to allow it to power up? A hard wired feedback loop? An transmitter receiver system? Maybe I need to protect this $50 part by surrounding it in a mesh wire cage in case it crashes.
The latest firmware today prevents you from launching if you are near an airport. So not getting RID
is not necessary to stop you from flying.
This is only required for "Standard" (integrated) Remote ID, not Modules.
Compare Part 89.310(c) [Standard Remote ID] to 89.315(c) [Broadcast Modules]
www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-F/part-89
When the sub 250g drones increase in performance, the FAA will lower the threshold to 100g.
They addressed the sub250 in this new edition and they are not allowed... kinda
@@stevo4535 I understand, but government agencies can change their minds at any time for any reason, or for no reason. Japan has had it set at 200g for awhile, but tomorrow it will be set at 100g because of advances in sub 250g quads.
The concern is the weight itself, not the speed they can achieve imo. a 600g quad travelling at 50 mph does a whole lot more damage than a quad sitting pretty around 250 at the same speed.
@@jpsalis I know but I don't believe this has anything to do with property damage or safety. It's about control and eventually having the ability to sell the airspace to the big companies that want it to make money off of. They can't afford for a delivery drone to get hit by a 200 gram rc aircraft and drop out of the sky. They'll sell it to the masses as a safety concern but I don't recall any stories of innocent bystanders being hospitalized by drones. Even if it was about safety, eventually 3 inch quads will commonly be able to exceed 100mph. Some already can.
This is a simple solution ,let's put a 400ft long string on all sUAS and call it a kite. Done
I've seen some guys with kites take them up further than that...
Careful, RID kites soon :D
I believe the FAA claims jurisdiction over kites and balloons as well :-(
Then add feathers and it’s now a 🦅
In reality, our only hope is an act of congress or a class-action lawsuit. And I think we have a bit of a case against them if someone dies because of remote ID; we might be able to sue the FAA for 2nd degree murder:
"Why do guns, devices meant to kill, have less restrictions and a constitutional amendment going for them while drones have to be regulated to the extent that recreational and commercial operators, who rarely, if ever, intend to terrorize or kill individuals? Why do firearms have similar restrictions to buying furniture while drones have similar restrictions to operating nuclear power plants?"
You're free to use this clause (public domain) for whatever the hell you want
Thanks for the shout out Russ!!! Also THANK YOU for reading all 470 pages and breaking it down so well!! I’m very excited about nigh time flying and no more recurrent tests.
You bet Jake. Your edits are perfect!
Thanks for taking the time to go through this huge proposal in detail! I love your commitment to keeping us informed so we can enjoy the hobby safely and legally.
You are so welcome!
You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar! As a Part 107 guy, I go out of my way to ensure that I fly responsibly and in a professional manner every time I launch. I don't take great umbrage with most of this ruling, but there are portions that make me nervous. As you stated (an many have echoed in the comments), I fully expect this ruling to be amended as the deadline for RID approaches. Thank you, Russ for your dedication to the hobby and for providing outstanding content and education for all of us!
The most disturbing thing about this is that when I fly my drone on my own property every potential anti drone psychopath will know where I live.
I understand your concern. I live too close to Washington DC to have that issue. I have to drive about 20 minutes to a park where I can fly.
So me flying on my 45 acre flag lot farm checking my fences
This is a concern for me also. I often launch from the deck of my home :-((
Someone doesn;'t like you, they get a hold of your ID number, buy a drone, spoof the number, do something stupid with it. Good luck.
Thats right so dont do it. It would be awesome if no remote id device ever sold.
Thanks for reading the entire ruling and sharing the key points. I wonder how many millions of sub 250 gram drones will be sold before the FAA rules are modified to regulate them? Don't get too comfortable with the rules of the game, because the goal posts will be moved again and again.
Time to start buying diy stuff while it still exists! Thanks for the update, Russ!
It will always exist. China doesn’t care about our rules and until they stop accepting shipments from china, you have nothing to worry about.
Yup!
To be frank, the weight cutoff for remote ID and registration should have been closer to 500 grams (about 1 pound). Not 250 grams.
And on the FAA killing the low cost toy drone market, there is a reason DJI actually supported these restrictions.
They have the resources to comply and want to own the entire drone market.
I hate everything happening in the world. Its ALL ABOUT CONTROL. Somebody out there wants to control some aspect of your life and people are just letting it happen. Unbelievable. Thx for the video Russ
I'll restate what I said in a previous comment: "Why do guns, devices meant to kill, have less restrictions and a constitutional amendment going for them while drones have to be regulated to the extent that recreational and commercial operators, who rarely, if ever, intend to terrorize or kill individuals? Why do firearms have similar restrictions to buying furniture while drones have similar restrictions to operating nuclear power plants?"
It's simply an absurd set of rules for a trivial issue in the United States. No people have ever died to civilian use of drones, and it's already illegal for civilians to weaponize drones. Many countries already recognize this; even China's communist party has not implemented remote ID and doesn't appear to plan to.
@@dwangalmighty If you think that guns have fewer regulations than drones, you know nothing about guns.
Sheeple crowd.
@@dwangalmighty lmao
@@dwangalmighty ya ignorant comment in so many ways.
so the mini 2 need to be registered? im still a tad lost. faa. i think we need to worry about out GOVERNMENT instead of drone and faa.
This is a great summary Russ. Thanks for posting!
Thanks Kelly!
I strongly agree. 👍
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See my vids, FOR HUMANITY, ITS IMPERATIVE and no I don't sell nothing to get views.
the FAA’s decision to have drones broadcast their location might let observers track your movements, figuring out where you go, where you live, and where and when you receive packages, among other examples.
Thumbs up for printing it AND reading it all. I was about to print and then I saw the page count.
Nice summary (not that I'm happy with everything contained therein).
Sadly, the FAA lumped all model aircraft into this regulation. So, those of us that fly both multi rotors and fixed wing will be affected as well. Part 107 as one of those type of pilots would get extremely expensive very quickly if each airframe is required to be registered and have remote ID in the future. Thank you for taking the time to do this video.
Day 1: remote id is mandatory
Day 0: directions on how to jailbreak your drone spread far and wide
Ha ha, that was my first thought
Lmao!
There's already a website that appears to be in the UK or Europe that provides a hack to unlock your drone to fly anywhere. There's a 40-50 dollar price tag.
We need to immediately get the Russians to work on a hack.
Thus is born the next generation of Karens. "Hello, Police! Some guy is flying a drone at this intersection that doesn't show up on my Drone to Phone app on my phone. I think he is a rogue flyer. Sure... I will get his license plane number.".
This is how they are going to end the hobby for recreational drones making way for commercial use only it's really sad
too much interest from Amazon and other Delivery companies here,
Yes. We need to start advocating for the rights to use retail consumer devices with out govt oversight. Tax is on the way too. Remember we started a civil war over a tea tax of like half a cent? Idk maybie its my Massachusetts and new hamshire roots coming through the surface.
Real ID is going to hurt commercial use as well. The same requirement for broadcasting launch site location applies to them which means they to will have to set aside funds for launch site security and additional insurance costs. My feeling is that this is a class action suit waiting to happen.
It’ll only “end the hobby” for those pilots who see it as a comply-or-quit decision. The rest of us will be flying rogue and enjoying this hobby for a LONG LONG time.
@@slapdat.byteme You keep smugly saying that, but what are you going to do when they catch you?
Thank you for getting through it. Though the exec summary helped, break down of timelines is nice to have.
"40% of drone operators would reconsider participating in the hobby"
FAA: "Yes, that's the point"
Yep! That was my immediate thought! They don't want us in the skys
Russ - thanks for reading the report to save us from having to do it! I appreciate it. What I don't get is why the general public needs to have access to our flight info and our location. I understand law enforcement having access using some sort of restricted app. But I can't see why the public should be allowed to do that. Makes no sense.
After some additional reflection I have some suggestions. But first, Russ, I was remiss earlier by not thanking you for doing the research, reading these long, arduous and mind numbing documents, and providing insight to those of us in the drone community who want to learn and have a desire to operate within the rules. Now, for my suggestions:
(1) The FAA is best influenced by public opinion and bad press. We need to engage with major news organizations to get our concerns elevated to a level where the FAA feels compelled to take a more thoughtful approach
(2) When bad things do happen as a result of these new rules we as a community need to do our best to hold the FAA accountable
(3) I know several groups have litigation pending. They’ve just been waiting for the new rules to be placed in the federal register, which will likely happen in January 2021. We - the drone community - need to support these legal efforts. I would encourage creating GoFundMe sites to provide these trailblazers with the cash they will need to take on the Federal Government
(4) Finally, the drone community needs an association that can speak to these topics with a single voice. I believe there are a couple out there already. I suggest these groups come together as one, promote their prominence and value to those in the community who are not already members, and lobby our government officials on the issues that matter most to us. We’re small fish in a big commercial pond. We will not get what we want/need if we do not come together.
Thanks again Russ for all your great work. You’re one of the best out there on TH-cam. Here’s hoping you have a healthy, safe, prosperous and Zoom free New Year.
I don't have an issue with the FAA being able to access my flight records if they have a legitimate reason too. What I have a huge issue with though is my information being broadcast to just anyone, and you know apps allowing access to this information will be popping up. Especially if I'm flying on my own property. Let's face it, there are some jackasses in this hobby that deserve to face legal consequences. But there is NO reason for some random person to be able to access my flight information.
Well said I agree 100%
100% agree with this... I've got a license to carry for reasons like this because I don't want just my thousands of dollars of equipment that I've worked hard for try and get stolen because some punk decided to be a d bag and thought he could get away with it... The only people I dont mind having access to it would be law enforcement or emergency personnel. The average person should not be able to access this information.. Its like the FAA want bad things to happen to operators because they clearly don't care for our safety......... You can disagree with me but this is not cool for the safety of the hobbyist or part 107 like myself. 😡😡
@@RyanGr33n very true to that, but I'm sure the news these days because how corrupt they are will broadcast this so the karens can become the neighborhood watch of drones lol.
@@Brandon-mo8np I'm more concerned with the professional criminals investing in an app to find controlling stations that they can then rob. I own a real estate imagery company and if some jackass shows up while I am working, I could lose several thousand dollars in equipment between the drone, camera equipment, lighting, etc... It's not uncommon on some shoots to have 10k worth of stuff. This rule is ridiculous! Govt agencies should have access, but the general public should not.
Randomized aircraft hex codes are going to be a thing soon. You’ll have to pay or it more than likely, which I don’t agree with, but the FAA has been working on anonymity with ADS-B for a few years now. At this time you can go to a site like adsbexchange.com and track any aircraft in the world as long as it has a transponder and is being pinged by a ground station. However, soon, it may be difficult, if not impossible to know whose aircraft it is whether it be a Gulfstream 750 or a Phantom 4 pro, etc.
I live in UK and still appreciate your efforts pulling this together!!
Finally - a clear, understandable review of this new body of regulation. Thank you! This is the best explanation I've seen so far. I'm two things that may add some weight to my thoughts - a retired Federal Cop and a retired Commercial Aircraft Pilot. Your concerns are legitimate - Federal agencies are not famous for using common sense, although this is not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. I think there is a real chance that we can get the Location requirement altered for Part 107 flights. Happy New Year.
I certainly hope so.
14:30 “part of progress “!??? Part of what progress!?
Step one: Retrofit older drones with remote id module
Step two: Build Tiny Faraday cage to place around remote id module allowing it to transmit, however, not very far.
Step three: Profit
It appears to be "Wifi OR Bluetooth." I still haven't dug in to read which versions of BT are allowed. Class 4 in the Bluetooth standard is 0.5 mW with a range of about 0.5m. It's far from clear to me that people on the ground will be able to receive this signal unless the UAV is pretty close and not moving much.
Alternate step two: launch to five feet then use the installed ejection module
I am so happy I found your channel, and the fact you take the time to do what you do. Thank You! I have been flying RC airplanes for over 20 years. Things are a lot more complicated now. You have given me a ton of info I needed to know. It used to be I just had to worry about channel overlap. If I was not at a flying field I was just in my yard with a foamy (many will not even know what that is now I bet)
I'm sure there will be software hacks that will be able to spoof your location. Never underestmate the brilliance of a hacker.
Working on it now
Actually u can do that now, go to dev options in ur phone enable GPS spoofing, then load a app for it. Bam make sure its set a way away from you
Thanks Russ. Thanks for taking all of the time to digest this and present it to us. Lots of good information.
Just want to say, good job. I’m just starting the hobby and your channel has been very informative. Subsequently I’m also affiliated with the law enforcement community and the knowledge you present will help me educate others.
Hi Russ, I have a question. Reading the current ruling, do you believe that manufacturers can comply with the Remote ID Module (option 2) requirements for legacy drones simply by issuing a firmware update? Most DJI products already have the hardware necessary to gather GPS and telemetry data needed to meet the needs of Remote ID, so it may just become a question of whether a given drone model has the required Bluetooth and/or WiFi transmitter right? If DJI issued such a firmware update, does the drone become a Standard drone, i.e. option 1, or is it still option 2 as it wasn’t originally manufactured with native Remote ID capabilities?
As a hobyist a mavic pro and mavic mini owner you've convinced me I should get my 107 but I know nothing about great video
I just got my part 107 through Jason Shappert’s remote pilot 101 course and I highly recommend it.
This is a good summary, thank you for your effort to keep UAV Pilots informed. I can see both sides of the controversy over the Pilot Location Issue and believe that the reason for this rule is indeed valid...
Back in the late '80s I started learning to fly...it was fun until we nearly had a mid-air collision. Neither my Instructor or I saw the other plane... and the ATC was unaware of it's presence in Controlled Airspace... from that moment I learned that the more Eyes you have looking out for the 'other guy' that might take YOU out the Safer EVERYONE is.
It doesn't matter if I was Flying, operating a Locomotive or a Motorcoach, or even my own pickup... I still believe Everyone is Safer with some sort of Co-Pilot and if you want to ride along with me, you better understand that you have to keep Your Eyes Peeled, too because NEITHER OF US IS PERFECT!!!
So, take a Buddy with you...if for no other reason than to distract 'Karen' while you fly ... and dial 911 before she does.
Time to pull out the ghillie suit every time I fly.
Russ, Thank you for reading thru the new rulings and summarizing them. I really appreciate your attentiveness to our drone hobby/ business.
I see the Remote ID working a lot like a transponder in any aircraft but really don't like broadcasting my location in the blind to anyone. If it has to be, make it secure the information so just FAA could see it and law enforcement. I don't understand any logical reason to transmit the pilot's physical location to the public. Will cause an unsafe environment for the pilots and the public since we will have to watch our backs while flying. FAA has a lot of work to do.
Your reply was exactly what most of us are thinking. Absolutely ridiculous that the general public can find the person flying the drone. Completely unneccessary!!
We'll need an observer to watch for persons trying to interfere, or be a 2a Supporter and get a concealed carry permit, whatever your state allows.
Yeah I agree. I mean drones aren’t cheap and if someone wants to find where the pilot is and where the drone will come back too there goes your stuff and putting the pilot who just wants to fly around in a potential dangerous environment.
Similar to COVID violation reporting: using the public(or friends & neighborhoods) to expand enforcement. It’s basically an APB to rat out anyone & everyone.
But won’t ppl just be able to see where you are- ? I mean if you have to keep Vlos at all times anyways it doesn’t sound too hard for someone to figure out where someone is sitting/ standing..?
Russ, Once again you are the go-to guy for rules and safety in the drone flying world. By the way, I took you up on your advice and achieved my Part 107 certificate in the past couple months. I agree it's worthwhile as the FAA continues to change the regulations. Thanks.
Thanks I spent 4 hours reading and gave up. when I saw they ignored the station safety aspect. BUT what everyone seems to be forgetting wifi bluetooth has a very short range. In all my electronics I think the max signal distance I have ever seen is 100' so really only someone who can see you already will get the signal....
That is a good point. So it's a tool for the Karens who already know you are in the area. That's much better than it being live on the internet for the entire planet to monitor.
Great job producing this video. Thank you for being a content creator and best of luck with the channel!
My main concern about citizens tracking me is that eventually, I will be "Karen-ed" and it might get ugly!
Yeah ugly for them! Not concerned one bit.
Carry your weapon when you fly now boys. I've seen how some people react when they see a drone and it ain't pretty. If drone haters can easily find the drone operators, the operators are definitely going to be less safe. And isn't safety supposed to be the name of the game these days?
I carry a 9mm with hollow points and so does the wife.
@TakeDeadAim i dont want a confrontation either but if you wanna abide by this FAA rule you better prepare for one.
Wow! This took a different turn! I'm hoping that it wouldn't come to that. But definitely ain't taking any shit from anyone that doesn't have the authority.
Here comes tons of drones that weigh less than 250 gr. I dont think that remote id modules will be exchangeable , I think they may be specific in that each drone will have a serial number and this will be broadcast with the other info that way they can pin it to a specific owner much like car registration, plane registration , ship and boat registration, ect.
So anybody can just scan my flight and then complain because they don't understand the laws to law enforcement... who also don't understand the laws, but are probably bored enough to come and hassle me. Yeah, no. Let's see them put that type of tech into cars so that anybody can call out speeders first. This is a massive overreach and exactly the kind of corpo-BS I'd expect from the wife of Mitch McConnell. Trying to get rid of hobbyists in favor of big companies that want all the airspace.
I was with you right up until you mentioned Mitch McConnell and his wife. How are they relevant?
Wouldn't it make more sense to just have an FAA member come fly my drone for me? 🤣🥺😢
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 because these rules are absolutely horrible. Just like Mitch.
@@scottoswald7535
We would do better to focus on the Drone stuff and not divide ourselves based on what we think about Obama's McConnell's Trump's pelosi's Schumer's BLM KKK and all the rest of that crap. Leave that in the groups for cable news...
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 Roger that...but, he asked...lol
Thanks, great summary!
In response to your comments about FAA-Recognized Identification Areas (FRIA), I'm hoping this will incorporate AMA fields. Yes, these typically cater to the R/C fixed wing community, but our AMA recognized field exists solely for drone racing where we will see 30+ drone pilots gather.
Well I'm legal for 3 years I guess. we'll see how I feel then.
Really appreciate the time that you took in reading this and sharing in what you have learned. One of the great things about the drone community. Keep on flying Russ.
I'm curious how the WIFI or Bluetooth tells anyone anything when you're in the middle of nowhere. Wifi and Bluetooth doesn't have much range.
My guess is that it will connect through your phone and then via cell tower.
@@francisbrady2739 I fly with a tablet... no phone (which I can turn off) - I wonder if I'm grounded if there's no way location information is relayed out
@@JeffEmburyEsquire That is a very good question. I guess when these retrofit modules become available, the requirements will be more apparent.
My thoughts exactly! When I take my Mavic Pro out to the forest and mountains, how the hell are they gonna know? I use a WiFi only tablet to fly and once I’m out of range...???
Wi-Fi is not limited to the range you might find in a home network. There are drones using Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n) that communicate over at least a few km (way past VLOS for busybody Karens and narcs). The FCC likely allows for more EIRP on 2.4GHz and 5GHz than routers are configured for.
Thanks a lot Russ, truly appreciated your time and insights. Best mate!
Is the Mavic 2 pro equipped with remote ID ?
Why would the remote ID device have to be on the drone? UAV position, speed, altitude and unique identifier are already broadcast back to the controller. Could just be a firmware update to the controllers?
I can see all the "Karens" in the neighborhood acting as the Drone Police, heaven help us. Maybe the solution is to become good friends with rough looking biker guys and have them with you when you fly.
It's always a good idea to make friends with the local rough crowds. That's true across the planet, in all hobbies.
Pedro Vergara I'm guessing you missed the joke I was making there. Try to picture some local "Karen" starting to attack you when your rough looking biker friends come up to her and ask, "Do you have a problem with that???"
@@BobDiaz123 Thats my plan, only fly when with my Jeep club. MANY of whom are packing...i'll feel nice and safe!
Or get a big mean dog 🐕😁
These days, bikers = white supremacists no matter what race they are, so that's still going to end in Karen's favor.
As always, solid information. Thank you Russ, for all you do for our community. As a 107 pilot, I could not agree with you more about people getting certified. It's a wise choice! Happy New Year's to you and your family. I pray many blessings for you in the next year ahead!
So ... with respect to remote ID and privacy .... is not the privacy of the pilot as important as that of the humongous number of people complaining about camera eqipped UAVs??? I live in the UK (originally from Bronx NY) and this must be the most surveyled society in the world with an estimated ONE camera for every EIGHT or so people!!! Talk about paranoid?
This shit is really gonna kill the passion which governments just love doing to just about anything people love to do :(
Just throwing it out there. Love yer channel BTW ;)
Thanks for the video Russ! Very well thought out and hit the highlights and important parts man.
Hey here's an idea for pilots to secure their location - set up a very large, high electrified dog kennel and stand inside it when flying your drone. (Sarcasm)
Thanks for the video - watched the whole thing! The Quality of your videos is getting better and better.
So basically I’ll need to retrofit my old drones and deal with buggy software and I’ll either need to run or have a gun to keep from being robbed. Sounds like a blast.
Also I wonder if we can get a VPN for drones? 😅
As long as your gun has an ID module as well - just wait ;).
Russ, thanks for doing this video. So much better and informative than your last one. I burned the ink out of my printer after I watched your last video. The legalese in the 470 page report is typical government coverup clarity for sure but, now I no longer suffer from insomnia after reading and rereading the report.
I wouldn’t mind a lumecube transmitter combo.
Never commented before on your video but they’re awesome man. Thanks for making the information easy to understand and making the video!
Not everybody replaces their aircraft every 3 years.
I have been building model aircraft for over 50 years and multirotors since before DJI sold a Ready To Fly Drone.
There are 32 fixed wing aircraft and 12 rotorcraft in my workshop and all have flown within the last 2 years.
I just got a Mavic Air but every one of my other drones was hand built by me.
Several of those fixed wings are over 40 years old and have flown in Japan, Oman, Egypt, and Diego Garcia.
This morning I flew an 8 year old F-450 quadcopter frame with DJI Naza Controller with Gopro.
After landing I flew a 40" wingspan acrobatic model.
Model aircraft flyers have coexisted with full scale aviation since before the Wright brothers.
What is happening now is silly, asinine, and a bureaucratic waste.
I believe that most people will IGNORE the FAA UAV rules just as they INGORED the FCC and their CB Radio rules.
Yet another great review of the new rules by another TH-camr; thank you! I read all of the document also and it's yet another quagmire of legal jargon written by hired lawyers (Par for the course for FARs.😉) I must add that there doesn't seem to be any clear guidance for FPV racers. I can't find provisions allowing for spotters or other means to satisfy the requirement for flying line of sight only. Pretty silly for obvious reasons! Furthermore, those who'll fly at a club, the 12 month deadline for registering for a FRIA is removed and there is no intention for phasing out FRIAs as originally proposed. Also, there is no allowance for those who don't equip that don't fly at a club field. I like that you brought up concerns for protecting individual pilot's safety from angry tattletalers. There is also a danger of violating UAV pilots rights under the law! The FAA seems to be indifferent about this and expect everyday laymen to educate other laymen what the FARs demand. I would hazard to guess that when one is working in the safety of a FSDO or a cushy office in DC ,the agents think "Eh! those other guys will figure it out". Blue skies and happy flying my friend! 🙂
Thanks for the info. This is the FAA's worst ruling ever. Now I'm considering leaving the hobby.
Stay in the hobby and fight it, don't give in so easily..
@@MrApache64AH In this case, selling my quadcopter *is* fighting. I have no leverage. But DJI will lose sales and they'll fight to keep their bottom line intact. Plus Google Wing and others will fight to change this latest ruling over privacy rights and remote pilot personal safety and security concerns.
Lol, “ I’m sure the comments will point it out”. You got that one right for sure Russ. Thank you much for this video, seems that it all isn’t going to be as bad as I thought it was going to be. I knew your channel was going to take off, there is not another drone/tech channel on here that deserves success more than 51 Drones. You have done an awesome job for sure!
That is hilarious. "Educate Law enforcement on Drone Regulations" They cant even train them on basic constitutional rights.
Meanwhile we have full size plane pilots trying crazy stuff. One dived at our court house during the festival and just missed it. He crashed later and got killed. They have flown over our model plane field before only 4 feet high and did stalls over us.
TRUTH ☝🏽💯
@@fpvpilot7713 our pilots not as ballzy but equally rude
I agree. Too many police are unfamiliar with the laws already on the books.
Your channel seems to be exactly what the majority of drone owners care about regarding general drone hobby flying. Very strange time especially for those of us looking for a new drone. Buy now knowing what changes are coming in 18 months? I for one am in the market, starting to do SAR and thermal inspection work. I could by 3 different drones, but have the budget for one! Thanks again for your work.
Just need a new skin for my drone that makes it blend in with the sky...come find me at 400 feet!
Great content, thank for your time on this. One idea that I commented to FAA that they apparently did not pick up on but may still be implemented would be to have the code being broadcasted split into two segments. The first segment would contain basic drone data like an ID number or session number that would be available any cell phone inquiring. The full data with controller location would be only available to law enforcement and some other 3rd party monitor. So someone sees a drone they can get the ID/session number and call the law or they can pay a fee and perhaps get the info. When they do pay, the 3rd party sends the drone operator a record of who inquired and perhaps real time notification. Just a thought. Super complex it is.
The Mini’s future looks brighter after this.
In three years just think of the specs the mini will have. By that time they will probably have the “Micro”
Get ready for the DJI Mavic Micro
@CHIZZO so small, they can be sucked into a jet engine without causing damage
@CHIZZO there are mini remote control helicopters for military purpose.. its insane how small they are.
And then suddenly 100g is the new limit..
Thanks Russ. Great job on the information presented. I'm staying tuned in.
Time to go back to old school FM transmitters with crystals....
THAT brought back the fear of completely destroyed drones to me. IF you never had a crystal fall out mid air you wouldn't understand! lol
@@briangray6372 I always made sure that my crystals were secured and tapped in. Especially when I flew large planes with 50cc engines...LOL Glad I never sold my Futaba 9 Channel TX.
@@marshallwells3243 my first quad XAircraft X450 the prop flew off, I rebuilt that and lost the crystal on the second flight. every little thing teaches, one way or another.
I have them and still in use!
Pretty sure these regs cover them also. so we would still be legally bound as they are based on weight not control type. regardless WiFi or FM transmitter can still be tracked without RiD
Thanks again, Russ. I'm loving your videos. Can't believe it took until now to find them.
Question: what drone doesn't have exposed blades? I have read the "over people" thing several times and am unaware of any drones that I can afford running on jet propulsion or other non-propeller technology.
A few people have had success using ducted fans on Quadcopters.
If I understood right, as of now no internet connection required, however when it is and you are in the middle of nowhere.. your 2500 hundred drone won't fly. Hmm.. maybe there is a method to their madness.
Thank you. When I got the email from the FAA, the first person I thought to see was your videos. Thanks again
Very good summary. For most very little or gradual changes. To put into context my final comment, I am an instrument rated pilot and a recreational model aviator 30+ years who flies RC aerobatic to $15k turbine jets. So flying RC in designated flying sites is common and we will likely experience little interference. Now my fun rant that will likely rattle a few of your viewers. Frankly if a few people don't like or don't want to carefully share the airspace and they feel the FAA shouldn't impede with flying their toy flying cameras they will just stop flying all together, that will be better for the rest of us. I for one don't want careless uninformed yahoos out there anyway. It seems like those who know the least will sound off with the loudest complaints. OK, as I said this should rattle a few :)
Russ, WOW, this is an outstanding review of the new FAA Remote ID Ruling. Thank you very much for all the hours you poured into the making of this video.
"At this time" only 31 times. So get ready for RID 2.0 in a few years.
I am a beginner, and wanted to get into the hobby. I purchased a DJI FPV drone. After buying it, I realized that I had to register the drone, pass a test, and now these Remote ID regulations. Frankly, is not worth my time. The risks are simply too great. I am a reasonable person and would not do all the stupid things that prompted the creation of these regulations, but the entire hobby is ruined for me.
The good news, I am still within the return window, so back it goes. I will stick to below 250 grams quads, and fly mostly indoors.
Thank you for a very informative video.
FAA is a joke and do you thinks cops give a shit about finding drone pilots admits all the madness .
exactly. cops i know said they don't have time to bust someone playing with their toy. the faa will have to come up with their own enforcement agency.
Well, there's that, plus this 'defunding the police' movement happening - drone flying will be way too far down the list for police to act on reports - maybe?
Russ, as always your videos are awesome. Thank you for making this video. Definitely cleared some questions I had. Look forward to the next.
The FAA is throwing hobbyists under the. bus in favor of Amazon. Good luck with your delivery services, flying drones is an expensive risky business.
Yeah, it will be be real risky around me. I'll be looking to take down every single one I see. Eventually the big corp. Will learn this is not a viable option and abandon it. Just a matter of time.but in the meantime... birdshot by the case..😁
On the "Upside", try to think of it as Skeet shooting with prizes.
What about my Trex 800 heli? No gps, no way to block from spooling up nor flying
Kids getting hooked on caffeine from Starbucks selling to minors is more dangerous than an aerial photographer...
right
Thank you for clearing this up. I was reading the regulations and was confused when they mentioned that sub 250g drones would be required to have cages. I misunderstood that those regulations applied to everything and not just to over people flights. Awesome work as always!
It’s only “final” if you plan to comply 😎
Also true, there ARE times when civil disobedience is a good thing. But if you plan to do this, FIRST, GET ORGANIZED. Do it as part of a movement, not a lone resistor. YOU will get a fine, y'all will get the charges dismissed, no foul. First time, anyhoo.
Go big or go home. (Or go under 250 grams... 😎)
@@thesoundsmith I’m going to “get organized” to safely fly my drone in my yard and in public spaces where they’re allowed? I’ll comply when every vehicle driver is publicly broadcasting their name, address and telemetry to local law enforcement.
@TakeDeadAim So, how exactly will “everyone be able to identify” someone flying a UA that is not broadcasting its telemetry to anything other than the pilot’s tx (i.e. doesn’t have a remote ID module), like my current fleet of non-DJI drones? Your logic is flawed.
@TakeDeadAim Do you know your way around “binding” of radio signal frequencies? Also, Joe Civilian and Joe Police Officer will not have the equipment technically capable of triangulating the position of either the aircraft or the tx. Beside which, Joe Police Officer will have “drone nuisance complaint” at the bottom of their response priority list. But hey, drop the hobby or fly 100-ft figure eights at your local AMA field... it’s (still) a free country. 😎
@@mattfoley7881 Cell phones.
Can I flyover residential homes at 200 feet? I do not have my Part 107 certificate. I have the mini 2.. plus I just got the new Air 2S today, do I still need to register?
"So there's no need for an intro to this one, let's get right too it."
*plays intro*
Russ usually gives a quick teaser as to what the video will be about as an intro, but not with this one
I said that out loud. Exactly that ;)
Wow - thank you for all the work that went into reviewing through it and providing such an informative video!
There’s gonna be a lot of drone jail breaking.
I'm curious your take on Part 107 for those who want to fly sub-250 grams routinely. It seems like if you do not have a part 107, those craft are exempt. But if you do, then all drones require it. For example, if you have your Part 107, how will that affect tiny whoops? What about small toothpick drones? When I originally that remote ID would apply for those with part 107 even under 250 grams, that would seem like a disadvantage of getting a Part 107. Am I missing something?
"Drone" used to be a dirty word in the hobby. You would get chastised for using the term because people thought that would bring the FAA in and screw with us.
Well, here we have the FAA screwing with us lol.
I don't think it was us small time people flying drones or any other aircraft that brought the FAA the FAA got involved when big companies got involved.
The claims of various risks associated with unmanned aircraft were way overblown and manipulated to push the narrative that the government needed more control :-(
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 The government always seeks control, lol.
I mean, I remember the shock when that (iirc) NY kid got killed by his own 700-class rc helicopter a few years ago. But it was shocking because it never happens. People in this hobby are generally safe, because no one wants to ruin a $1000+ aircraft doing stupid things.
@@Nethezbet 👍
Always Appreciated Brother! Thanks for taking the time. 🙏🏼
Shoutout to Jake! Nice. I just got a Mini 2 so heck yeah!! :)
Awesome! LMK if you have any questions!
@@51Drones A million...but I can use Google. Ha! One is...do you know if there’s an iPad mount (air) for the controller? If you do, please drop me an affiliate link. Thanks, Now back to learning. Happy New Year! 🎆
@@BasicFilmmaker Right here sir: amzn.to/2KVTBY2
I use it for every drone.
@@51Drones Thanks! In my cart for when I return home. 👍
An excellent summary and analysis as always. The only thing I disagree with entirely is the section about destroying the toy drone market.
There are already under 250 gram toy grade drones on the market. Lots of them. From some of the same companies that have made toys for years. And they’ve got a suite of features too like GPS, altitude hold, etc.
America wasn’t the only market of interest to deal with so they have been getting ready with these drones for a while now. So as long as the 250g stays, they’ll be fine.
The problem is that they may just end up lowering or eliminating the 250g exclusion in the future. Japan already did lower theirs, as an example. The rush to create amazing under 250g drone could ironically become the death of that unrestricted category.
I'm selling it all. It's over for me. Last straw.
I agree. Hobby is the walking dead now...
I've a feeling that was a facet of the FAA's plan for some time now..attrition is the cheapest form of control. OTOH, I'd say that the likelihood of people building blacked-out UAVs on the sly, for themselves and perhaps others, will increase exponentially.
@@jayphillips4058 No question. If people use their current drones how would they ever stop them....
Thanks for the awesome overview! Quick question...
You mentioned the older Mavic drones (original pro, pro platinum, ... ) would have to have the retrofitted module.
Does that mean that the new DJI drones, Mavic air 2, pro 2 etc would be compliant under option 1 and not need the module?