Spent most of yesterday afternoon fiddling with this & the video was super helpful. Finally got it to work although as per the video Windows is a bit flaky recognising the USB device. My main aim was to get everything on the latest firmware before it goes on the bike cos I’m not sure whether I will get the wireless module or not. Being a Wahoo owner I’m not sure it’s worth it as there’s not much extra it will show compared to Garmin. If I do get it I wanted to make sure it was on the latest firmware before it goes on the bike to avoid bricking it. Thanks again Shane, top work.
Awesome...thanks Shane. Worked a treat!!! Just purchased my first Di2 setup and was hesitant to update using the iOS app. Followed your suggestions and it worked flawlessly on my MacBook Pro. Many thanks mate 👍🏼 Happy days....
I can confirm that the subject procedure also works using Parallels virtual Windows 10 running on a Macbook Pro. Need to disable Shimano USB device 1 or 2 times to enable connection.
If you can't get the steps in this video working, it may be because you need to install the old version of the Etube software (version 3. something). This worked for me!!!
Thanks Shane I've tried this multiple times to get to work in virtual box and after the usb recognition didnt work the first couple of times i just gave up, or tried to mess with which USB type it was. I didnt have the presistence to just keep trying till it worked!
Nice one Shane. Have been wanting to get something like this online for ages... but I don't have a Mac... Adding this to my Di2 FAQ and Beginner's guide ;-)
I am mostly all Linux and about ten years ago I bricked my iPhone trying to update iOS using Windows iTunes under VMware so I bought my first MacBook to manage my phone. Two years ago I got my first bike with Di2 and bricked Di2 trying update the firmware using my iPhone via Bluetooth (probably because the battery was low and I did not know it). The LBS had to use Windows E-Tube to bring Di2 back to life and it took multiple attempts. I recently broke down and bought a refurbished Lenovo mini PC with Windows 10 Pro to manage Di2...
I wish Shimano would just come out with one PC linkage device that does it all, rather than one device that connects to individual components and one that requires an entire Di2 system. Keep It Simple Shimano.
What Shane said :). You need BT-DN110 (internal battery) or BM-DN100 (ext. battery mount) for D-fly / Bluetooth compatibility (EW-WU111 / 101... NOT the SM-EWW01, that is ANT only). If you're on a road bike, then yes - if your bike has synchronized shift, you have the BT-DN110 or BM-DN100. If we're talking MTBs, it depends. In that case, check the battery/mount :)
@shane, just bought 2024 giant defy advanced pro 1 two days back and connected with shimano's e tube app to update the firmware. By default, the app automatically shows the cassette as 11-34 whereas there is a11-36 cassette mounted on the bike. How do I fix this issue ? Do I have to take the bike to the Giant dealer to fix this glitch ? please advise . thanks
The newest version of E-tube PC won't work. Version 5.03 was working fine but after upgrading to 5.04 on 06/10/2022, the program won't even load on the PC.
@@gplama Was finally able to get it to work by running Windows Compatibility Mode troubleshooter. Right click on Icon. Functionality is yet to be determined.
Bit stuck with the software side of this. I've successfully downloaded Virtual Box. From Microsoft have also downloaded the Windows 10 ISO disc image, but not sure how to open it. From within Virtual Box? It doesn't seem to recognise the files. Attempts to open the Windows DMG just result in messages saying it's incompatible with OSX. Can you help an incompetent?
Locate the pre-built Windows 10 Virtual Box image from developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/ Then unzip it, then load it into Virtual Box... you'll be in a much better position than using the ISO.
Did you tried it with etube professional v5? I can use 5.0.1 only with virtual Win11 but actually its not the lastest. The lastest version (5.2.6) crash after start the program for me. I didn’ find out the solution :(
Thx a lot for your great tutorial! I followed your steps but have no success yet: the BCR2 is connected via USB in the VirtualBox, I have enabled the DLL and run e-Tube (v4.0.3) as an admin but e-Tube doesn't recognise my Di2 bike. What part am I missing? Thx in advance!
Is anyone using the E-Tube windows app recently? Tried versions 5.0.1 up to the latest I’ve followed the video and installed on a virtual box. The E-TUBE app will not even launch. Tried 64bit, 32bit, dot net installs… nothing. Very odd.
Although well done, that presentation went over my head. I have Di2 6770 on my road bike. I have a PC (Windows 10). Do I need an intermediate device to check and update my firmware? Do I need to purchase software? Am I likely to benefit from an upgrade given the early version of Di2 that I have (dates back to 2013). Should I just follow the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
Di2 charger is all you need. ETube is a free download. Depends what firmware revision you’re on and what features they offer in updated versions. Entirely your call to follow through with updates or not.
With the older versions of E-Tube, yes. The newer versions require the PCE1, or even the PCE2. I have a 8170 groupset to install and discover this myself soon.
A couple of Q’s Shane...1) 32 bit or 64? 2) When invoking “Setup.exe", OS give me an error message, can’t run this on OS. SO you did skip over some essential steps, which you probably already did, but when starting from scratch, I got lost in the weeds. DO you have to install Net framework to get the install.exe to go?
I can't recall sorry... likely 64. Also likely it requires the .Net Framework. They've also updated the E-Tube software since this video. If you're across things to this detail, you'll get it up and running no stress.
I have been hearing that the best way to charge the DI2 was via a laptop. If I'm going to plug the battery charger into a charging brick into the wall is there a recommended charging brick to use? I have been seeing people say that they were having trouble doing so and the only safest way to charge the DI2 is via a computer. Is this true? If not, can you recommend a charging brick that you use that works?
@@gplama I spoke with Shimano support as you recommended today. The tech I spoke with said that the traditional Apple iPhone 5W USB-A charging brick (that is no longer shipped with the new iPhones - www.apple.com/shop/product/MD810LL/A/apple-5w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=1164b4690fbfbf955f854a8d912c759423a6d9d7299761e42ba5b72370584c1b49f4d404de9a0f13f82a62326f6f2d0cf3fd7a10d0fdd5b9cc54e5c8e92b9bb539f1c0f7498ced1ec13aecf51b6b5c7d93588bff5c99c1335eb784dd20a47904f54a2feca1f29facc528c3d220b9f814) works just fine. He said that charging off of your USB port on your laptop actually takes much longer and recommended using the iPhone charging brick.
Hi, Just about to start building up my 1st Di2 bike, and whilst I've read the odd reports of the Mobile app causing issues, particularly during firmware updates, would it be better to get the PCE1 or PCE02 (don't mind investing) to do the updates and diagnostics rather than rely on the mobile app ? Or are the mobile app issues now sorted ? Thanks Michael
Im trying to connect to etube 3.4.5 because i have old firmware and it need to be update in the old software . It always say Problem with internet connexion or cant reach shimano server . So i cant update firmware ? does 3.4.5 still work for anyone ? Thanks ?
I never could get past the PC Link connection request regardless of how many attempts I’ve made. Windows recognizes the unit but not the E-Tube software. 😩
Do you know if there is a way to calibrate the e-tube ride? It loses time and distance against Strava and a Garmin GPS. My Watch, Strava and Garmin all say roughly the same distance and speed but the ride app shows me going slower and less distance! Any thoughts?
Wow. that was hard. I downloaded the latest E-tube (v5) because, I thought this would be best. In my searching I found an obscure site that mentioned version 4 wouldn't work with the sm-bcr2 charger. They suggested version 3.4.5. I downloaded this and installed. The program opened right up. What is up with Shimano's e-tube app v5? Hopefully now that I have an earlier version open, I can get to work on the Di2 system.
Does it really need to connect to computer? I just bought a bike with a di2 ultegra groupset i know that it's electric they didn't tell me that i need to update it thru PC ugh
@@mdumaguit7416 you need to run the app for programming mode changes and firmware updates. You can have your local shop for this for you, but they will likely charge a small fee.
Can you update the firmware with BCR2 connecting to the junction A port (not BT-DN110 battery), in Virtual box with Etube 4.x? Mine couldn't find any device using this setup
Does it really need to connect to a computer? I just bought a bike with a di2 ultegra groupset i know that it's electric they didn't tell me that i need to update it thru PC
I'm very curious as to how you even got Windows 10 installed. My VM crashes on starting up Windows 10 Home, as soon as it gets to the part where it asks what region I'm in. I click to accept the US region, and there's an instant crash dialog box from VirtualBox. This is on Catalina.
Grab a pre-built VM from here: developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/virtual-machines/ I believe these expire after a few weeks, so watch for that.
@@gplama apparently the problem I had is that the latest VirtualBox doesn't play well with Catalina if the VM requests audio. Seems it blows up on ubuntu installs as well. I turned off audio in the VM settings and it was smooth sailing after that. Thanks for all the tips!
I haven't used v5 as yet. Shimano aren't really high up on my priority list given they're an extremely difficult company to get information from to produce content.
@@edc-everydaycarrymentalism9765 I have the same issue and found out v5.0.3 is the last version that can be executed from a VM. I have contacted Shimano but have not heard anything back yet.
It looks like Virtual Box doesn’t work for new Apple silicon M1. Maybe then start the iPad/iPhone version on the M1, wonder if it could work with cable?
answering to my own comment : yes e-tube app work and is launch on Apple Macbook M1 processor. I also get a connection but via BLE. Maybe Shimano could update the app to support USB. We could also imagine to connect USB to a Smartphone with a dongle (not sure if everyone is following me).
Shane Miller - GPLama turns out it was a pretty easy fix because my computer was blocking the virtual box from installing. Just had to okay it in my security settings and it worked
I'm trying to use the SM-BCR2 charger. When I connect it and do the connection check, the E-Tube app finds a newer firmware version for the charger, and it won't let me do anything else than updating the charger firmware. But the firmware update process fails because the connection to the charger seems to disappear. To make the E-Tube app recognise the charger, I have to physically disconnect it and then do the little VirtualBox connection dance, and I end up back at the screen telling me there is a new firmware version for the charger. So I'm pretty much stuck in a loop. Do any of you have suggestions about how I get past this using E-Tube through VirtualBox?
Arhh... now that's a tricky one. You may need to ditch the VM option and use Bootcamp for this. Or find someone with a Windows machine to quickly update the charger itself first.
ugh. I am so frustrated by this e-tube from Shimano. Seems like terrible software. First I tried the firmware upgrade through the mobil app as I have a Mac computer and didn't want to have to load the virtual machines. well, the app failed on the firmware upgrade and now the app won't connect to the wireless. So I did end up loading both parallels and virtual box to get windows 10. I installed the e-tube app on the parallels Windows 10 and 11, virtual box windows 10 and even windows 10 on my work computer that is PC based. In all cases when I try to open the e-tube app it simply doesn't open. Doesn't show up in Task Manager. This is the most frustrating process to get access to the Di2 system. Anyone have this issue? Any ideas on how to get the software started? Does the Charger need to be connected to the computer before starting the app? I tried this at one point with no success. Thanks for any ideas.
I have the same issue and found out v5.0.3 is the last version that can be executed from a VM. I have contacted Shimano but have not heard anything back yet.
It's a battle of the brands. I can't justify the price of SRAM AXS. A Force AXS cassette is the same price of these two Di2 levers I picked up! Crazy. And the price of adding BLE to Di2 for the same updates from a smartphone is still a lot cheaper than... well... anything AXS. I don't dislike the tech...it's just so out of reach it's insane.
So there is really no point in buying this thing for the home mechanic. I've been riding Di2 bikes since 2015 and the standard SMB connection works perfectly and does 99% of what the PCE1 does....
@@funk44 It's one way, but it's a little more 'one or the other'. A VM will allow the Windows 10 instance to run within OSX which is a little more suited for how much I use it for this task on the Mac.
![Shimano DuraAce Di2 Upgrade Project: Unboxing // Updating // Di2 Diagnostics [SM-PCE1]](/img/n.gif)
Spent most of yesterday afternoon fiddling with this & the video was super helpful. Finally got it to work although as per the video Windows is a bit flaky recognising the USB device. My main aim was to get everything on the latest firmware before it goes on the bike cos I’m not sure whether I will get the wireless module or not. Being a Wahoo owner I’m not sure it’s worth it as there’s not much extra it will show compared to Garmin. If I do get it I wanted to make sure it was on the latest firmware before it goes on the bike to avoid bricking it. Thanks again Shane, top work.
2:58 Happy to see that your thought process when buying second hand bike stuff is the same as the rest of us.
I save money by spending money! ;)
Shane Miller - GPLama (voice in head) “I mean, I could sell it for at least what I’m paying”
Awesome...thanks Shane. Worked a treat!!!
Just purchased my first Di2 setup and was hesitant to update using the iOS app. Followed your suggestions and it worked flawlessly on my MacBook Pro.
Many thanks mate 👍🏼
Happy days....
I can confirm that the subject procedure also works using Parallels virtual Windows 10 running on a Macbook Pro. Need to disable Shimano USB device 1 or 2 times to enable connection.
If you can't get the steps in this video working, it may be because you need to install the old version of the Etube software (version 3. something). This worked for me!!!
Thanks Shane I've tried this multiple times to get to work in virtual box and after the usb recognition didnt work the first couple of times i just gave up, or tried to mess with which USB type it was. I didnt have the presistence to just keep trying till it worked!
@GPLama, Love these videos to help me get started with Di2 management. Just wish Shimano had better software.
Nice one Shane. Have been wanting to get something like this online for ages... but I don't have a Mac... Adding this to my Di2 FAQ and Beginner's guide ;-)
I am mostly all Linux and about ten years ago I bricked my iPhone trying to update iOS using Windows iTunes under VMware so I bought my first MacBook to manage my phone. Two years ago I got my first bike with Di2 and bricked Di2 trying update the firmware using my iPhone via Bluetooth (probably because the battery was low and I did not know it). The LBS had to use Windows E-Tube to bring Di2 back to life and it took multiple attempts. I recently broke down and bought a refurbished Lenovo mini PC with Windows 10 Pro to manage Di2...
I just climbed the Epic KOM for the first time on Watopia, and gosh, that's a lot of work.
I wish Shimano would just come out with one PC linkage device that does it all, rather than one device that connects to individual components and one that requires an entire Di2 system. Keep It Simple Shimano.
The SM-PCE units can connect to both the entire bike AND single components. They just won't charge the battery... :(
Thanks Shane, very hepful. By the way, which site do you check for used bike components in Australia? Thanks.
*Edit... Used parts: Facebook marketplaces.
how to change a gear manually (FD-R8000) when the battery is flat (or near flat and front mech doesn't work)
If my bike has Syncroshift, can i assume the battery is E-tune fly blue tooth compatible ??
BT-DN110 is what you’re after. (Thanks to BetterShifting.com for this info)
What Shane said :). You need BT-DN110 (internal battery) or BM-DN100 (ext. battery mount) for D-fly / Bluetooth compatibility (EW-WU111 / 101... NOT the SM-EWW01, that is ANT only).
If you're on a road bike, then yes - if your bike has synchronized shift, you have the BT-DN110 or BM-DN100. If we're talking MTBs, it depends. In that case, check the battery/mount :)
@shane, just bought 2024 giant defy advanced pro 1 two days back and connected with shimano's e tube app to update the firmware. By default, the app automatically shows the cassette as 11-34 whereas there is a11-36 cassette mounted on the bike. How do I fix this issue ? Do I have to take the bike to the Giant dealer to fix this glitch ? please advise . thanks
Lama lives for firmware updates!
does it for me on a windows pc. I have to unplug and plug in a few times
The newest version of E-tube PC won't work. Version 5.03 was working fine but after upgrading to 5.04 on 06/10/2022, the program won't even load on the PC.
Their ETube software is a mess.
@@gplama Was finally able to get it to work by running Windows Compatibility Mode troubleshooter. Right click on Icon. Functionality is yet to be determined.
Hi Lama. We need a video for the new 12 speed Di2 system
Agreed. I can’t get a hold of it.
Bit stuck with the software side of this. I've successfully downloaded Virtual Box. From Microsoft have also downloaded the Windows 10 ISO disc image, but not sure how to open it. From within Virtual Box? It doesn't seem to recognise the files. Attempts to open the Windows DMG just result in messages saying it's incompatible with OSX. Can you help an incompetent?
Locate the pre-built Windows 10 Virtual Box image from developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/ Then unzip it, then load it into Virtual Box... you'll be in a much better position than using the ISO.
Thanks!
Did you tried it with etube professional v5? I can use 5.0.1 only with virtual Win11 but actually its not the lastest. The lastest version (5.2.6) crash after start the program for me. I didn’ find out the solution :(
Thx a lot for your great tutorial! I followed your steps but have no success yet: the BCR2 is connected via USB in the VirtualBox, I have enabled the DLL and run e-Tube (v4.0.3) as an admin but e-Tube doesn't recognise my Di2 bike. What part am I missing? Thx in advance!
Not sure... I haven't tried 4.0.3, only the older 3.4.5 version.
@@gplama I've just installed v3.4.5, similar behavior: it mentions a "connection request" and doesn't seem to see my Di2 bike
Is anyone using the E-Tube windows app recently? Tried versions 5.0.1 up to the latest I’ve followed the video and installed on a virtual box. The E-TUBE app will not even launch. Tried 64bit, 32bit, dot net installs… nothing. Very odd.
same here.
@@roga-lin I was finally able to get it fully working on my Mac. If I can help you out I’ll try. Hit me up.
@@briang43 Thank you, Brian. I installed E-Tube Project 4 and it works.
Thank God I don’t go on the same forum as you where you pick all this stuff up from, it would end up costing me a fortune 😳
🤣
Although well done, that presentation went over my head. I have Di2 6770 on my road bike. I have a PC (Windows 10). Do I need an intermediate device to check and update my firmware? Do I need to purchase software? Am I likely to benefit from an upgrade given the early version of Di2 that I have (dates back to 2013). Should I just follow the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?
Di2 charger is all you need. ETube is a free download. Depends what firmware revision you’re on and what features they offer in updated versions. Entirely your call to follow through with updates or not.
@@gplama OK. I will go from there. Thanks.
Can you do this with the changer? or do you have to buy a Shimano PC Linkage SM-PCE1?
With the older versions of E-Tube, yes. The newer versions require the PCE1, or even the PCE2. I have a 8170 groupset to install and discover this myself soon.
@@gplama if I got a giant defy pro should I get the PCE1 or PCE2
A couple of Q’s Shane...1) 32 bit or 64? 2) When invoking “Setup.exe", OS give me an error message, can’t run this on OS. SO you did skip over some essential steps, which you probably already did, but when starting from scratch, I got lost in the weeds. DO you have to install Net framework to get the install.exe to go?
I can't recall sorry... likely 64. Also likely it requires the .Net Framework. They've also updated the E-Tube software since this video. If you're across things to this detail, you'll get it up and running no stress.
playing with the FW update over VM is like asking for the disaster to happen ;-)
Live on the edge! 👌🏼🤣
Why new levers? I'm still using some old 6770 levers on one bike, love it.
The price. Those are AU$700 new. I could resell them and make $. They're also a little more refined than the 9050. Buttons are a little snappier.
Heard that. Same reason why I just bought a DA crankset.
Nice on the mac bit. What does that pce box really get you over the bcr? -U10
Single component connections (the charger needs to plug into the junction) and diagnostics. The charger is good for 99% of things.
I have been hearing that the best way to charge the DI2 was via a laptop. If I'm going to plug the battery charger into a charging brick into the wall is there a recommended charging brick to use? I have been seeing people say that they were having trouble doing so and the only safest way to charge the DI2 is via a computer. Is this true? If not, can you recommend a charging brick that you use that works?
One best answered by Shimano Support. They should have the definitive answer on this one.
@@gplama I spoke with Shimano support as you recommended today. The tech I spoke with said that the traditional Apple iPhone 5W USB-A charging brick (that is no longer shipped with the new iPhones - www.apple.com/shop/product/MD810LL/A/apple-5w-usb-power-adapter?fnode=1164b4690fbfbf955f854a8d912c759423a6d9d7299761e42ba5b72370584c1b49f4d404de9a0f13f82a62326f6f2d0cf3fd7a10d0fdd5b9cc54e5c8e92b9bb539f1c0f7498ced1ec13aecf51b6b5c7d93588bff5c99c1335eb784dd20a47904f54a2feca1f29facc528c3d220b9f814) works just fine. He said that charging off of your USB port on your laptop actually takes much longer and recommended using the iPhone charging brick.
@@rich2785 Thanks for the follow up Richard!
Hi,
Just about to start building up my 1st Di2 bike, and whilst I've read the odd reports of the Mobile app causing issues, particularly during firmware updates, would it be better to get the PCE1 or PCE02 (don't mind investing) to do the updates and diagnostics rather than rely on the mobile app ?
Or are the mobile app issues now sorted ?
Thanks
Michael
Your call. I've had no issued with the mobile app recently and firmware updates. th-cam.com/video/_H3iNP-FDd0/w-d-xo.html
Im trying to connect to etube 3.4.5 because i have old firmware and it need to be update in the old software . It always say Problem with internet connexion or cant reach shimano server . So i cant update firmware ? does 3.4.5 still work for anyone ? Thanks ?
I can't help but think a big (for Shimano) change is coming next year to DA. Wireless? Dunno, 12 Speed? Probably. What else though?
I never could get past the PC Link connection request regardless of how many attempts I’ve made. Windows recognizes the unit but not the E-Tube software. 😩
@gplama Other than the price, any reason you got the new levers?
They are a little more refined for the shape and the clicks are a little snappier. It was mostly the price though.
Do you know if there is a way to calibrate the e-tube ride? It loses time and distance against Strava and a Garmin GPS. My Watch, Strava and Garmin all say roughly the same distance and speed but the ride app shows me going slower and less distance! Any thoughts?
One for Shimano Support. I haven't looked into the E-Tube Ride application yet.
@@gplama Thanks for the response. I will see if I can get them to respond!
Are older and newer E-tube compatible Di2 components compatible? I.e the new Duraace hoods with older front mech and rear mech?
What you're after is the E=Tube Compatibility Chart over on the E-Tube Project website.
Wow. that was hard. I downloaded the latest E-tube (v5) because, I thought this would be best. In my searching I found an obscure site that mentioned version 4 wouldn't work with the sm-bcr2 charger. They suggested version 3.4.5. I downloaded this and installed. The program opened right up. What is up with Shimano's e-tube app v5? Hopefully now that I have an earlier version open, I can get to work on the Di2 system.
OBSCURE SITE?!?!?!?
(just kidding, ❤)
GPLama, I don’t sup[pose you still have the firmware update file on your computer do you?
I’m not sure what you’re after? ETube dumps all the firmware files on your computer (you just have to look hard for them)
Shimano needs to just write a browser version so it will run on any platform.
well there's a new version coming, but it's still a stand-alone software bike.shimano.com/en-EU/e-tube/project/forwindows.html
Does it really need to connect to computer? I just bought a bike with a di2 ultegra groupset i know that it's electric they didn't tell me that i need to update it thru PC ugh
@@mdumaguit7416 you need to run the app for programming mode changes and firmware updates. You can have your local shop for this for you, but they will likely charge a small fee.
Can you update the firmware with BCR2 connecting to the junction A port (not BT-DN110 battery), in Virtual box with Etube 4.x? Mine couldn't find any device using this setup
It works now, turns out my cable is loose 😂
@@liuyangwan1535 I have a similar issue: e-Tube doesn't find any Di2 device. How did you solve the problem?
Great video
Does it really need to connect to a computer? I just bought a bike with a di2 ultegra groupset i know that it's electric they didn't tell me that i need to update it thru PC
If it has the wireless module you can update/configure it via a mobile device over Bluetooth.
I'm very curious as to how you even got Windows 10 installed. My VM crashes on starting up Windows 10 Home, as soon as it gets to the part where it asks what region I'm in. I click to accept the US region, and there's an instant crash dialog box from VirtualBox. This is on Catalina.
Grab a pre-built VM from here: developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/virtual-machines/ I believe these expire after a few weeks, so watch for that.
@@gplama apparently the problem I had is that the latest VirtualBox doesn't play well with Catalina if the VM requests audio. Seems it blows up on ubuntu installs as well. I turned off audio in the VM settings and it was smooth sailing after that. Thanks for all the tips!
Can you not just use the Boot Camp function to partition and install Windows 10 onto your Mac?
You can. Rebooting and repartitioning is involves a lot more work than a quick VM install.
Is boot camp not a thing on macs anymore? Also where are the handlebar clips for those shifters?? 😛
Easier using VM than Boot Camp. Clips on the box next to me.
Shane Miller - GPLama I never used boot camp but have used virtual box myself for a Windows only printer (very old) so fair enough!
Yeah super weird not using Bootcamp for this.
@@rowanRobaggs VM is much easier for this one task. No rebooting or repartitioning required.
Shane Miller - GPLama fair enough. I guess I have always just had it installed already ✌️
Can you update the Di2 firmware with the battery charger using virtual box?
Yes, that'll work. You'll need to plug the SM-BTR2 into the junction port of the Di2 system and connect to the components that way.
Shane Miller - GPLama excellent, thanks
I folllowed today and e-tube 5 would not start up on the VM so I tested version 4 and it started. Have you got version 5 working
I haven't used v5 as yet. Shimano aren't really high up on my priority list given they're an extremely difficult company to get information from to produce content.
@@gplama think I just got my first bike with Di2 last night. Any tips for me?
@@edc-everydaycarrymentalism9765 I have the same issue and found out v5.0.3 is the last version that can be executed from a VM. I have contacted Shimano but have not heard anything back yet.
It looks like Virtual Box doesn’t work for new Apple silicon M1. Maybe then start the iPad/iPhone version on the M1, wonder if it could work with cable?
answering to my own comment : yes e-tube app work and is launch on Apple Macbook M1 processor. I also get a connection but via BLE. Maybe Shimano could update the app to support USB. We could also imagine to connect USB to a Smartphone with a dongle (not sure if everyone is following me).
You beauty!
Anyone been able to install the VirtualBox on Mac? I've tried a couple of times but keep getting installation failed :(
VirtualBox itself, or installing a Win10 ISO image?
Shane Miller - GPLama virtual box itself. Gets all the way through then says it’s failed and to contact the developer
@@hamleyn EEeeeek. There's a few alternatives out there and pre-built Win10 images. Maybe try VMware?
Shane Miller - GPLama legend thanks. I’ll try those
Shane Miller - GPLama turns out it was a pretty easy fix because my computer was blocking the virtual box from installing. Just had to okay it in my security settings and it worked
I'm trying to use the SM-BCR2 charger. When I connect it and do the connection check, the E-Tube app finds a newer firmware version for the charger, and it won't let me do anything else than updating the charger firmware. But the firmware update process fails because the connection to the charger seems to disappear. To make the E-Tube app recognise the charger, I have to physically disconnect it and then do the little VirtualBox connection dance, and I end up back at the screen telling me there is a new firmware version for the charger. So I'm pretty much stuck in a loop. Do any of you have suggestions about how I get past this using E-Tube through VirtualBox?
Arhh... now that's a tricky one. You may need to ditch the VM option and use Bootcamp for this. Or find someone with a Windows machine to quickly update the charger itself first.
@@gplama Yeah, I figured this would be the result after having tried it 10 times or so. At least I didn't brick the charger 😅 Thanks for the reply.
@@gplama I had the exact same issue charger firmware issue loop as Rasmus. Going to phone a friend. Thanks for the video
At least while macs run on x86...
ugh. I am so frustrated by this e-tube from Shimano. Seems like terrible software. First I tried the firmware upgrade through the mobil app as I have a Mac computer and didn't want to have to load the virtual machines. well, the app failed on the firmware upgrade and now the app won't connect to the wireless.
So I did end up loading both parallels and virtual box to get windows 10. I installed the e-tube app on the parallels Windows 10 and 11, virtual box windows 10 and even windows 10 on my work computer that is PC based. In all cases when I try to open the e-tube app it simply doesn't open. Doesn't show up in Task Manager. This is the most frustrating process to get access to the Di2 system. Anyone have this issue? Any ideas on how to get the software started? Does the Charger need to be connected to the computer before starting the app? I tried this at one point with no success. Thanks for any ideas.
I have the same issue and found out v5.0.3 is the last version that can be executed from a VM. I have contacted Shimano but have not heard anything back yet.
LOL, so glad that I have eTAP and not DI2, because with eTAP all updates are with Bluetooth and my smartphone.
It's a battle of the brands. I can't justify the price of SRAM AXS. A Force AXS cassette is the same price of these two Di2 levers I picked up! Crazy. And the price of adding BLE to Di2 for the same updates from a smartphone is still a lot cheaper than... well... anything AXS. I don't dislike the tech...it's just so out of reach it's insane.
@@gplama , for sure the eTAP is pricey, but I still have the 1st generation system, not the new AXS system.
So there is really no point in buying this thing for the home mechanic. I've been riding Di2 bikes since 2015 and the standard SMB connection works perfectly and does 99% of what the PCE1 does....
Yep. The charger/USB does what most people need. It’s more about using E-Tube under a VM than using the PC Link.
@@gplama I'm not a mac user but isn't boot camp what most people use to access windows on a mac?
@@funk44 It's one way, but it's a little more 'one or the other'. A VM will allow the Windows 10 instance to run within OSX which is a little more suited for how much I use it for this task on the Mac.
He doesn't tell you you need a usb c adapter to connect the usb 3.0 to the MacBook Pro.!!!!!!!!
Calm down. I’m here. It depends on the Mac you’re using. And if you’re this deep into things, finding the correct adapter isn’t going to be a problem.
Maybe it is just me but having to go to this much trouble to shift gears on a bike is beyond stupid.
None of this has to be done. It works out of the box. I just like tinkering with this tech.