Holy sh*t mate! Nearly fell off my chair there! Many thanks for the shout out! 🙏 As a die hard Di2 fan I’m looking forward to more videos on this topic 👌
You're welcome mate. Your videos are brilliant, and that one little tip on the battery charger made my day... and today's ride more fun as I was ripping through gears with the A switches.
Thanks for confirming the use of the Shimano SM-BCR2 Battery Charger as a means of updating Di2 firmware. For some reason my laptop didn't want to play along, but I was able to upload the firmware and change settings from my desktop PC. Many thanks for clear and complete instructions.
Gotta love it, that you JUST got a new bike and you are already creating awesome content of the tech used on the new bike. Really cool. Who would've thought 20 years ago, that one day we would be connecting our bikes to our PCs and updating the firmware on some of the components. Pretty crazy (and technically advanced) world we live in :)
What’s nice about the wireless unit when you get it is the ability to send your gear ratio data to your garmin head unit. It will show what gear you are in front and back and after the ride it shows how many gear changes you made, some useless info. It can also show your battery level on the Garmin which is cool as you charge it so seldom, its really nice to have. Also check out the auto and semi auto features that are programable from the e tube software. In semi auto when you change front chainring you can set rear gears up or down to get a better ratio. In auto you only use rear shifter and front will change automatically to keep the ratio. In e tube you can play with when it will shift the front mech. Just wish there was a bit more options there. Quite nice! These modes are also shown on Garmin and changed via the junction box. Enjoy. I love my Di2
Hi Shane, one little quirk using the PC connection, when all checks and updates are complete use the Disconnect Tab to disconnect the PC link to Di2, important step! I didn't do this the first time I connected by PC and I 'frooze' all components, couldn't re-connect, had to go to the shop to debug and re-install software/firmware. This doesn't happen with iPad...but I'm not an Apple fan...so , Disconnect the PC link then unplug the cable from the junction box... Happy New Year...great channel, love it up here in the northern hemisphere!
Very nice video. I have a TCR on order and I didn't realise that it didn't come with the wireless module so that's very handy to know before I lay my hands on it. Looking forward to the next video with installation and configuration.
For anyone interested in these numbers, I charted my Di2 battery decline curve over a two-month period with the following results starting with a fully charged battery (100%) and running it down to 20% (8363 total shifts; 976 miles; 55 hours riding time). The straight-line graphs for a fully discharged battery (0%) would have been close to 10,500 shifts (front and rear combined); 1200 miles; 70 hours riding time. Hours and miles are less relevant on battery drain than cumulative shifts since riding styles and terrain will impact shifting and saddle time. Data were collected on Garmin 820 head unit from 23 rides during a period of hot/warm weather (August & September) in southeast Texas (mostly flat) and riding with a group. Average ride: 42.4 miles; 363 shifts per ride (24 front & 340 rear). Bike: 2018 Canyon Ultimate 8.0 CF SLX Disc Di2 (new in June 2018) with Ultegra groupset.
Dan Denham thanks for the info. Obviously you must be using the Wu111 wireless module to collect that data. Someone said the wireless module eats up a lot of battery life (obviously as any radio needs power to operate and these things would be ON all the time. ) Did you notice this compared to a time when you didn’t have the module installed?
Looking forward to the Di2 series. Hav the same Di2 set on my Canyon, but not using any wireless module so far. So will definitely learn along the way. 👍
DI2 is great stuff and I have used it for over 3 years. Instead of the WU111, I have used the MT800 XT display. This does the same job as WU111 (wireless unit), but shows the gear your are in and also gives a bleep when it is going to change the front derailleur. This is an awesome addition if you are using the syncro gears. Having 3 ports, also makes the wiring a touch easier if you are using sprint shifters or climbing switch.
Am I the only dummy who didn’t even know I had those little buttons under the hoods?! Safe to say now thanks to this vid all my components firmware are up to date and I can now shift my rear cassette using those sneaky buttons! So thanks! Looking forward to hearing your opinion on the E-Tube wireless unit and whether it’ll be a worthwhile investment for me as well.
Have seen a couple of posts about the first update of firmware over wireless bricking people's systems. There is a definite bug in the set up in that, the first time you connect the EW-WU111 and connect to it over wireless, if there is a firmware update available it will automatically try to do it wirelessly and that invariably crashes and "bricks" the system. However, like most smart designers, there is a reset possible, you just have to disconnect all the components; shifters from the function box and derailleurs from the derailleur and then reconnect them and it will reset the system. The idea that a failed firmware update would actually destroy a battery is a bit daft as it is just a set of instructions in the device. Safest thing to do is to ensure the firmware is updated over the wire using the charger before installing the EW-WU111. Rode mine out for 100kmsa yesterday and am super happy with it. There is a bit of lag between changing gear and that change being updated to the head unit display on my Elemnt Bolt (about 1 1/2 to 2 secs) so am interested to hear if there is any lag once you set up the 8070 hood buttons as shifters if it has to go to the wireless module, be read and then command the derailleurs. Am super happy with it though! (edit, just watched the rest and see there is no lag between button press and derailleur move, nice!)
darryl roberts No, there is no lag when you use these as shifters. It’s just the delay in ANT+, the same as the delay of your power meter and HR strap to your headunit
Great video. I was unaware that one could use the battery charger adapter to connect to e-tube and thought I could only get firmware updates at my local bike shop. Too bad Shimano doesn't support Mac, but I borrowed my son's Windows laptop and used your instructions to successfully perform my first home based update. Thank you.
While I don’t have Di2...yet...I greatly appreciate the video Shane. I just used your video to setup the Kickr Climb (double tap to return to level and trainer difficulty/wheelbase adjustment) as the instructions were lacking. Keep up the great work!! Cheers and Happy New Year!
Shane thank you so much. I have tried first via the iPhone app but couldn’t connect. Then I watch you and I have the batt charger and done accordingly. All my components needed an upgrade. I believe now after all these updating the iPhone app of e tube via the Bluetooth LE will be able to connect. Very useful
Hi mate..i just wanna thank you so much for making this video, this video help me a lot. I pray for you to have a good health and enjoy your ride. Tq very much from Malaysia..😊
Just a head up in regards to using the charger cable as a PC link and doing firmware, don't let the PC going into hibernation. I had this happen when I first got my bike with DI2 and it bricked the unit. I had to get the full program unit and re install the firmware on each component.
Hmm, actually this happened to me, I just unplugged each component, shifters from the junctions box and derailleurs at the derailleur and it reset the system without needing to re-up firmware on anything. It's like a roll back. @@gplama
Great video Shane! I'm going to be updating my Di2 firmware via USB this morning and will install the Ewok this afternoon when it arrives. And then I'll program those buttons! Thank you!
If one is looking for support from Shimano on Di2, they always ask you to connect the unit to the PC vs Bluetooth. You get more information from the PC software. Curious to see how much customization you can do with the A button on the Wahoo bolt. My right A button on my Garmin is setup to change screen, single tap forward and double tap backward. Left A button as a lap button, very handy for training, no need to take your hand off the handlebar to reach the button on the Garmin unit.
Excellent. My Canyon Aeroad didn't come with the EW-WU-111 either. When I got it I put inside the frame by the bottom bracket. Apparently they can go anywhere in the system. I find the A buttons stiff to press so not really suitable for gear changing. Worth trying if you haven't done so already is Synchro shifting where you only use the RH shifter. The front derailleur shifts automatically.
Nice Shane, always enjoy the little subtle things in ur vids mate. Favourite this time was the instinctive web search string, just caught yourself in time. Definitely curious to see what 'that' search would have coughed up. Early Di2 had a reputation in my group of issues on rare occasions for firmware updates so I've been wary about them (irrationally). But I'm keen to set up the A buttons so will try it. Cheers
Have you enabled synchro shift yet? I didn’t think I’d like it. So for months I didn’t even try it. But once I did, it worked so incredibly well that I can’t imagine not having it now. (Synchro shift is basically an automatic front derailleur. You just shift with the right lever and as you shift into a harder gear, it’ll automatically go onto the big ring and back up two on the rear. So it’s the next available ratio, always the most efficient, never cross chaining.) Seriously. It’s brilliant. You can still manually control the FD if you don’t like what it’s doing. But I’d love to hear your thoughts on Synchro shift.
I love syncho shift. I have the big paddles left and right for up and down (like ETAP) but then I still have the small paddles for overriding front derailleur.
I had the buttons activating the shifters for a while but found I rarely used them given your fingers are right next to the actual shifters when you are on the hoods. I think you’ll go back to them changing computer screens. I like the pressing of the buttons on each side to automatically change from big ring to small ring (and cassette adjustment) when coming to a stop.
Not a di2 user, but I did pick this tip up from browsing cycling forums: Charge the battery via a pc instead of straight from the wall. For whatever reason, sometimes, charging from the wall makes the system think it has charged fully, whereas in reality it has barely charged at all. I’ll see if I can find the source
This only happens if your charger is very low powered (under 5w). Laptops and desktops should provide the standard 5w required but also a good phone charger like the iPhone's, charges it to 100% with no issues.
If you do try to use the ew-wu111 and the mobile app and have rendered your di2 unresponsive just disconnect the battery for max 30 sec(and possibly wu111), reconnect and use the charger to connect to pc and restore... Had to do that a couple of times.... /o\
I found myself compelled to update the firmware on my Shimano Di2 Wireless Unit (EW-WU111) due to significant battery drainage issues. It's quite surprising that Shimano continues to allow the sale of units that are essentially five years out of date, lacking crucial firmware updates right out of the box. With the firmware now updated, I'm cautiously optimistic that the problem has been resolved. However, it's ironic that a device designed to excel in wireless connectivity was, until now, performing poorly in its primary function. Kudos to Shimano for your customer excellence.
Shane, I did update my 8070 rear derailleurs wirelessly. After doing the update the entire system did NOTHING I had to unplug the battery and plug it back in. Things worked fine & update was recognized by etube.
Today I got the battery low message (20%) on the Garmin. These are my stats, ridden from fully charged to 20% (80% used) of the battery: Rides: 9 Shifts: 12450 # front shifts : 461 (4%) # rear shifts :11989 (96%) Time: 32:21:23 Distance: 865.17 km Ascent : 13851 m
When you get the wireless part you'll see there is a tablet and phone version of the app. The tablet version has extra diagnostic functionality that lets you skip buying the fancier usb link adaptor
Very cool. I have the 9070 Di2 so I imagine I can activate the hood buttons as well. Unfortunately, I can't program them for my Garmin as I need the Ewok thingy as well as the latest generation e-tube battery. Both rather expensive options for minimal benefit.
I wonder if we could connect those A Shifters to Zwift, so when you press the button, you use your power up, or perhaps press both to give wide spread Ride Ons.
A small downside of having the junction box in the handlebars (as opposed to under the stem with the older unit) is that you can’t use a bar end mounted mirror, since in Oz (and I suppose the UK and Japan), you want your mirror mounted on the right hand bar end.
Welcome to Di2. I got it last summer and love but... i can’t believe how Shimano doesn’t support Macs. Was locked out on the first firmware update and change of password.. had to beg a neighbor to use his PC.
LOL “Beg to use a PC”, just sounds so wrong doesn’t it, but I wasn’t anyway rushing to buy di2.... I wonder how Mac friendly ETAP and EPS are ..... I’ll have to look.
Richard H yeah, it was a horrible first impression since I had to cancel my ride. Not sure about etap and eps.. good luck.. but don’t wait too long, missed shifting is long gone for me now :-). Not to mention the fact that i don’t need to stare at my cassette trying to count in which gear i’m in. It displays on my elemnt ... simply amazing.
Hi Shane, nice vid, did the firmware updates using battery charge to windows laptop no problems, If anyone with a TT bike has the new single button di2 for full synchro shifting any advice welcome as that’s what I have to race my tri’s next season and need to work out best set up ?
Why the bluetooth module isn't standard in the junction box these days is beyond me, you've also got to love not having mac support and a user interface that belongs in 1995.
I bought a Focus bike last year with di2. Did the same upgrade to add ant support, but found that when I installed it, it didn’t work. The di2 battery that came with the bike wasn’t compatible. The moral of this story. Check the compatibility charts to confirm your battery model will work with the wireless component.
Shane Miller - GPLama Actually I think they are udi2s , but I’ll have to hook the junction box up to the battery charger. Actually the 1st thing before even getting on the bike was to make sure I could connect to the udi2 box! Sad eh!
Good luck with the WU111wifi unit. It will probably ask you to update via the mobile app, which will crash halfway through and may brick your battery. Did it to mine and had to change the battery under warranty. Don’t do any updates via the mobile app only the USB
Posting as this might help someone out... I found the app failed to upgrade the same DI2 battery firmware when I ran it on my iPhone 8. I retried a number of times, each time it said it needed to recover but never finished (I waited hours...). For some unknown reason I then thought of trying the exact same thing from my iPad. Again, it spotted the incomplete upgrade started on the phone but this time it completed the process first time within a couple of minutes and I was up and running. iPhone 8, iPad Pro, same iOS version installed, same tube app version, different results!
Hi Shane. I came across your awesome video by coincidence, as I was trying to figure out how to update Di2 firmware, but I was unaware that I could check the rear cassette, and the garmin pages from the upper levers. Now ... my question is: does my Di2 R9150 need the EW-WU111 or not to program the buttons on the levels? Thanks in advance.
No need just to program your Di2. It is required if you want things like Di2 battery info, gear info on your GPS head unit, or to change display pages on your GPS.
Just to clarify, does that mean you don’t need the D-Fly wireless unit to program the hood buttons and instead use the charger to connect to the Di2 system via a laptop?
Hi Shane. Thanks for a no nonsense, comprehensive and well made video (a rare thing on TH-cam these days). Can't wait to play with my build (on order) #colnago
Hi great video, but I have a very specific question on Di2 battery level appearing on the Wahoo Elemnt Bolt. Does it appear as a separate field that you can configure to appear, like you can with phone battery?
No. You can see % left when looking at the sensor detail in the menu, and you'll get an on-screen warning at 15% and 10% (I believe those are the numbers). Still no configurable battery level field though.
Just picked up the same bike, supplied manually are not to flash so thanks for the video..... Side note do you use / recommend any frame protection products?
Hi, can you do update on the new firmware update. Also, any idea how to troubleshoot the mobile app to Di2, it always says poor connection and therefore cannot update software. Thank you
Hi Shane, have you found a way to program your 'A' switches so that you can control your GoPro camera? It would be excellent if you could start and stop recording on your GoPro using the 'A' switches.
I'm not sure there's any way to program for commands outside of what's presented within the E-Tube config. That's a brilliant idea though and with the wireless module I'd like to see that kind of extensibility. Even to change songs with the buttons would be brilliant.
Shane Miller - GPLama it would be great if someone could use the Di2 SDK to develop a little app for this functionality. BTW I really enjoy your videos. Might see you at the TDU. Have great 2019. Cheers Meng
Hi Shane,just a quick question,can I update di2 if I have the bar end junction box which is the we-as910,I'm led to believe I can but unsure for certain
Hi buddy I've been using di2 since 2012 and never new you could do any of this I've always taken it to my LBS but not now Also your assiomas I just some yesterday and on my ultegra I font need the little washer. Have you found the same now you have a different group set. And by the way the assiomas are very nice piece of kit.
Same crankset as I've been running (Ultegra/Dura-Ace/etc) so the Assioma pedals were just switched from one to the other. I can't recall about the washer sorry.
Could you tell me if you can shut the di2 off? What does it do when you continue clicking the button, when the LED turns red and stays on? And when you click the button again, the red and green LED turn on but go off afterwards. I just bought a di2 bike and im curious, but cant find it annywhere. Thx!
Shane, I want to get into indoor training (swift/rouvy) since I can no longer ride on the road due to a degenerative eye condition. I can't afford to purchase a new trainer (I really want a Kick Snap or core). I found a first generation kicker on eBay, do you think it's worth purchasing a used unit or wait until I can ave up the dough for a new trainer?
Hi Shane, I would like to get to hook up my di2 to a computer (which I don't have yet) . Can you display gear ration, count shift, create a graph for the gear ration with the Wahoo Bolt?
I know nothing about Di2. Are you saying out of the box you couldn’t use the buttons to change gear. That seems weird that it is sold without it being fully functional. Glad you got it sorted.
Did you not haveto do anything driver wise with the BCR2? Ive tested on three different computers and it wont work. They dont recognizer the charger even if i install drivers manually...
Did you get di2 voltage on your volt? I cannot find it anywhere. I upgraded my new '18 TCR to di2 after a yr of trying to get to shift well with cables w/o success. Di2 worked straight away. Only real headache is that i cannot seem to find battery voltage in the fields or sensor info. Have ratios but no voltage? Help? -U10
@@gplama - Thanks Shane, yes it does as it would be handy to have on the data page. Just have to remember to check every couple of weeks to ensure charge is up.
I NEVER do updates via wifi or post download without a fully charged battery. Ive bricked tech over the years and luckily recovered a couple. I love but i still have a cable network at home connected where possible its never let me down.
"how to tell trademark lawyers to get fu.. DI2" HAHAHA, EPIC!! excellent vid, love the techie side of things and di2 seems to deliver generously :) question, do you get anything different on duraace di2 in terms of wireless units, etc... or are the parts the same?
Going by the E-Tube Compatibility Chart everything is pretty much interchangeable... with the Di2 likely being a little lighter and more "refined". Maybe someone else can chip in with the real/actual Di2 Dura Ace differences, I'm still getting my head around the part numbers. :)
I know it'll display/record gear information. I assume Di2 battery level will be a data field. I'll need to dive into it, I'm still learning with this getup.
@@gplama Yep, it will show battery level and display your gearing info for front and rear. You may not get your gear info recorded though, at least you wont with a Garmin unit, not sure with Wahoo. Also there are some quirks with the wireless unit, when I first put it in my setup (mix of DA 9100 and Ultegra 8000) the wireless unit wouldn't seem to take the new firmware over USB and it would then drain the battery dry within 24 hours. Reading on the internet, this is not an uncommon issue. Apparently you need to change the BT pass code via USB first and then you should be able to hook up to the phone app and update it that way. This is supposed to solve the problem and will let the wireless unit work correctly from now on. Not done it yet, but am planning on doing it in the new year.
@@ghostyjack I just installed a D-Fly unit on R8070, and I can confirm that my Wahoo Elemnt Bolt records the gear information (i.e., each data point recorded also includes the front and rear gear selected). For Shane, a good tip if you end up seemingly "bricking" the Di2 system when using the E-Tube phone application is to unplug the Di2 battery. This cured my problem when the wireless app temporarily bricked my Di2 system when updating the firmware for my D-Fly unit.
Holy sh*t mate! Nearly fell off my chair there! Many thanks for the shout out! 🙏
As a die hard Di2 fan I’m looking forward to more videos on this topic 👌
You're welcome mate. Your videos are brilliant, and that one little tip on the battery charger made my day... and today's ride more fun as I was ripping through gears with the A switches.
Riof Japan
Hope the shout out brings you thousands of subscribers. You deserve it.
Thanks for confirming the use of the Shimano SM-BCR2 Battery Charger as a means of updating Di2 firmware. For some reason my laptop didn't want to play along, but I was able to upload the firmware and change settings from my desktop PC. Many thanks for clear and complete instructions.
I switched from Ultegra DI2 STI to GRX DI2, that video made my day - IT WORKS - THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! - Same to Rides of Japan
Gotta love it, that you JUST got a new bike and you are already creating awesome content of the tech used on the new bike. Really cool. Who would've thought 20 years ago, that one day we would be connecting our bikes to our PCs and updating the firmware on some of the components. Pretty crazy (and technically advanced) world we live in :)
What’s nice about the wireless unit when you get it is the ability to send your gear ratio data to your garmin head unit. It will show what gear you are in front and back and after the ride it shows how many gear changes you made, some useless info. It can also show your battery level on the Garmin which is cool as you charge it so seldom, its really nice to have.
Also check out the auto and semi auto features that are programable from the e tube software. In semi auto when you change front chainring you can set rear gears up or down to get a better ratio. In auto you only use rear shifter and front will change automatically to keep the ratio. In e tube you can play with when it will shift the front mech. Just wish there was a bit more options there. Quite nice! These modes are also shown on Garmin and changed via the junction box.
Enjoy. I love my Di2
Wow wow, you are the first and only Di2 video tutorial that actually helped me figure this programming thing out! I can't thank you enough!
Hi Shane, one little quirk using the PC connection, when all checks and updates are complete use the Disconnect Tab to disconnect the PC link to Di2, important step! I didn't do this the first time I connected by PC and I 'frooze' all components, couldn't re-connect, had to go to the shop to debug and re-install software/firmware. This doesn't happen with iPad...but I'm not an Apple fan...so , Disconnect the PC link then unplug the cable from the junction box... Happy New Year...great channel, love it up here in the northern hemisphere!
Very nice video. I have a TCR on order and I didn't realise that it didn't come with the wireless module so that's very handy to know before I lay my hands on it. Looking forward to the next video with installation and configuration.
Disc and di2.... never change a cable again?
Thanks, got my first DI2 bike today and had no idea how to get the extra hood buttons working. Got it done with your video.
Thanks for the excellent presentation on this one Shane! The screen capture on the side was a perfect inclusion.
For anyone interested in these numbers, I charted my Di2 battery decline curve over a two-month period with the following results starting with a fully charged battery (100%) and running it down to 20% (8363 total shifts; 976 miles; 55 hours riding time). The straight-line graphs for a fully discharged battery (0%) would have been close to 10,500 shifts (front and rear combined); 1200 miles; 70 hours riding time. Hours and miles are less relevant on battery drain than cumulative shifts since riding styles and terrain will impact shifting and saddle time. Data were collected on Garmin 820 head unit from 23 rides during a period of hot/warm weather (August & September) in southeast Texas (mostly flat) and riding with a group. Average ride: 42.4 miles; 363 shifts per ride (24 front & 340 rear). Bike: 2018 Canyon Ultimate 8.0 CF SLX Disc Di2 (new in June 2018) with Ultegra groupset.
Dan Denham thanks for the info. Obviously you must be using the Wu111 wireless module to collect that data. Someone said the wireless module eats up a lot of battery life (obviously as any radio needs power to operate and these things would be ON all the time. ) Did you notice this compared to a time when you didn’t have the module installed?
Thanks Shane...Just downloaded all the software and thought this was going to be an all day affair. Easy Peasy!
This was terrific. I just got my Di-2 in October and this made it really easy to update my firmware and program my device. THANK YOU!
Looking forward to the Di2 series. Hav the same Di2 set on my Canyon, but not using any wireless module so far. So will definitely learn along the way. 👍
DI2 is great stuff and I have used it for over 3 years. Instead of the WU111, I have used the MT800 XT display. This does the same job as WU111 (wireless unit), but shows the gear your are in and also gives a bleep when it is going to change the front derailleur. This is an awesome addition if you are using the syncro gears. Having 3 ports, also makes the wiring a touch easier if you are using sprint shifters or climbing switch.
Am I the only dummy who didn’t even know I had those little buttons under the hoods?! Safe to say now thanks to this vid all my components firmware are up to date and I can now shift my rear cassette using those sneaky buttons! So thanks! Looking forward to hearing your opinion on the E-Tube wireless unit and whether it’ll be a worthwhile investment for me as well.
Thanks Bro, you rock! followed it to the letter. Just got my new Specialized di2. I know more than the bike shop owner now. Pays to be a techie.
Have seen a couple of posts about the first update of firmware over wireless bricking people's systems. There is a definite bug in the set up in that, the first time you connect the EW-WU111 and connect to it over wireless, if there is a firmware update available it will automatically try to do it wirelessly and that invariably crashes and "bricks" the system. However, like most smart designers, there is a reset possible, you just have to disconnect all the components; shifters from the function box and derailleurs from the derailleur and then reconnect them and it will reset the system. The idea that a failed firmware update would actually destroy a battery is a bit daft as it is just a set of instructions in the device. Safest thing to do is to ensure the firmware is updated over the wire using the charger before installing the EW-WU111. Rode mine out for 100kmsa yesterday and am super happy with it. There is a bit of lag between changing gear and that change being updated to the head unit display on my Elemnt Bolt (about 1 1/2 to 2 secs) so am interested to hear if there is any lag once you set up the 8070 hood buttons as shifters if it has to go to the wireless module, be read and then command the derailleurs. Am super happy with it though! (edit, just watched the rest and see there is no lag between button press and derailleur move, nice!)
darryl roberts No, there is no lag when you use these as shifters. It’s just the delay in ANT+, the same as the delay of your power meter and HR strap to your headunit
Awesome, thanks for the video, just received my Di2 bike so could use plenty of info to setup gear exactly like I want it.
Fantastic again Shane. You're a bloody legend
Im not really into cycling, but I just find it pretty crazy the amount of tech in something I thought was pretty much tech-free. wow
Great video. I was unaware that one could use the battery charger adapter to connect to e-tube and thought I could only get firmware updates at my local bike shop. Too bad Shimano doesn't support Mac, but I borrowed my son's Windows laptop and used your instructions to successfully perform my first home based update. Thank you.
While I don’t have Di2...yet...I greatly appreciate the video Shane. I just used your video to setup the Kickr Climb (double tap to return to level and trainer difficulty/wheelbase adjustment) as the instructions were lacking. Keep up the great work!! Cheers and Happy New Year!
Shane thank you so much. I have tried first via the iPhone app but couldn’t connect. Then I watch you and I have the batt charger and done accordingly. All my components needed an upgrade. I believe now after all these updating the iPhone app of e tube via the Bluetooth LE will be able to connect. Very useful
Hi mate..i just wanna thank you so much for making this video, this video help me a lot.
I pray for you to have a good health and enjoy your ride.
Tq very much from Malaysia..😊
Shane you legend!!! I'm an IT quarmby, however I've managed to activate the 'A' buttons on my Di2 thanks to your video. Cheers
Well done! This worked and I'm psyched!
Just a head up in regards to using the charger cable as a PC link and doing firmware, don't let the PC going into hibernation. I had this happen when I first got my bike with DI2 and it bricked the unit. I had to get the full program unit and re install the firmware on each component.
Good tip! Thank you.
Hmm, actually this happened to me, I just unplugged each component, shifters from the junctions box and derailleurs at the derailleur and it reset the system without needing to re-up firmware on anything. It's like a roll back. @@gplama
Darryl you had better luck than me. I tried the pulling it all apart based on a google search but had no luck
ouch, sorry to hear that mate, Di2 is rad but some complex electronics inside! @@wubble666
Fortunately the local shop had the full update unit and recovered everything. Which is why I bought the full unit.
Great video Shane! I'm going to be updating my Di2 firmware via USB this morning and will install the Ewok this afternoon when it arrives. And then I'll program those buttons! Thank you!
If one is looking for support from Shimano on Di2, they always ask you to connect the unit to the PC vs Bluetooth. You get more information from the PC software.
Curious to see how much customization you can do with the A button on the Wahoo bolt.
My right A button on my Garmin is setup to change screen, single tap forward and double tap backward. Left A button as a lap button, very handy for training, no need to take your hand off the handlebar to reach the button on the Garmin unit.
Fantastic! Now I have one more thing today to tinker with.
Excellent. My Canyon Aeroad didn't come with the EW-WU-111 either. When I got it I put inside the frame by the bottom bracket. Apparently they can go anywhere in the system. I find the A buttons stiff to press so not really suitable for gear changing. Worth trying if you haven't done so already is Synchro shifting where you only use the RH shifter. The front derailleur shifts automatically.
Great video. So helpful and much better than using the app. Thanks so much and keep the brilliant content coming
Thank you, I wanted to buy BT module first, but this is right what I need.
Nice Shane, always enjoy the little subtle things in ur vids mate. Favourite this time was the instinctive web search string, just caught yourself in time. Definitely curious to see what 'that' search would have coughed up. Early Di2 had a reputation in my group of issues on rare occasions for firmware updates so I've been wary about them (irrationally). But I'm keen to set up the A buttons so will try it. Cheers
Have you enabled synchro shift yet?
I didn’t think I’d like it. So for months I didn’t even try it. But once I did, it worked so incredibly well that I can’t imagine not having it now.
(Synchro shift is basically an automatic front derailleur. You just shift with the right lever and as you shift into a harder gear, it’ll automatically go onto the big ring and back up two on the rear. So it’s the next available ratio, always the most efficient, never cross chaining.)
Seriously. It’s brilliant. You can still manually control the FD if you don’t like what it’s doing. But I’d love to hear your thoughts on Synchro shift.
I love syncho shift. I have the big paddles left and right for up and down (like ETAP) but then I still have the small paddles for overriding front derailleur.
I had the buttons activating the shifters for a while but found I rarely used them given your fingers are right next to the actual shifters when you are on the hoods. I think you’ll go back to them changing computer screens. I like the pressing of the buttons on each side to automatically change from big ring to small ring (and cassette adjustment) when coming to a stop.
Thanks.... great piece of info. Keep them coming please
Not a di2 user, but I did pick this tip up from browsing cycling forums:
Charge the battery via a pc instead of straight from the wall. For whatever reason, sometimes, charging from the wall makes the system think it has charged fully, whereas in reality it has barely charged at all. I’ll see if I can find the source
Found it! www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13027684
Cheers!
This only happens if your charger is very low powered (under 5w). Laptops and desktops should provide the standard 5w required but also a good phone charger like the iPhone's, charges it to 100% with no issues.
As stated above the iPhone charger is fine, I have been using it with mine for over 2 years with no issues at all.
If you do try to use the ew-wu111 and the mobile app and have rendered your di2 unresponsive just disconnect the battery for max 30 sec(and possibly wu111), reconnect and use the charger to connect to pc and restore... Had to do that a couple of times.... /o\
Thanks mate! Just what I need 😎
Good to see you work through this setup of Ultegra DI2 disc brake so i know what to do (or not to do) when I maybe get one.
No macOS Software is 👎
I built my DI2 bike from parts rather than going out and simply "buying" a ready built DI2 equipped bike. That was much more fun and educational.
I found myself compelled to update the firmware on my Shimano Di2 Wireless Unit (EW-WU111) due to significant battery drainage issues. It's quite surprising that Shimano continues to allow the sale of units that are essentially five years out of date, lacking crucial firmware updates right out of the box. With the firmware now updated, I'm cautiously optimistic that the problem has been resolved. However, it's ironic that a device designed to excel in wireless connectivity was, until now, performing poorly in its primary function. Kudos to Shimano for your customer excellence.
Nice, new bike looks mint!
If your making a series of DI2 videos, thank you, thank you, thank you in advance!
Check out Rides of Japan for a swag of cool Di2 vids. I'll cover what I'm up to as I figure it out along the way.
Shane, I did update my 8070 rear derailleurs wirelessly. After doing the update the entire system did NOTHING I had to unplug the battery and plug it back in. Things worked fine & update was recognized by etube.
Eeeek! Sounds like another vote for wired firmware updates for those components.
Shane - the subtle search for USA lawyers was gold. It had me laughing
Today I got the battery low message (20%) on the Garmin. These are my stats, ridden from fully charged to 20% (80% used) of the battery:
Rides: 9
Shifts: 12450
# front shifts
: 461 (4%)
# rear shifts
:11989 (96%)
Time:
32:21:23
Distance: 865.17 km
Ascent
: 13851 m
When you get the wireless part you'll see there is a tablet and phone version of the app. The tablet version has extra diagnostic functionality that lets you skip buying the fancier usb link adaptor
I found it very easy also. But you will love it even more once you start riding it.
Soo helpful, thanks mate!
Very cool. I have the 9070 Di2 so I imagine I can activate the hood buttons as well. Unfortunately, I can't program them for my Garmin as I need the Ewok thingy as well as the latest generation e-tube battery. Both rather expensive options for minimal benefit.
I wonder if we could connect those A Shifters to Zwift, so when you press the button, you use your power up, or perhaps press both to give wide spread Ride Ons.
It’s there in the code. Support was once in place I believe. Likely in beta. It’s be neat to have integration in-game.
i think the EW-WU111 can only be updated via blutooth. and usually this goes pair shaped. i have a SM-PCE1 handy if you need it Shane.
Yeah, think this is why I had to use the apps.. Knowing how to recover from this made me do it anyway though :)
Really great video, thank you.
A small downside of having the junction box in the handlebars (as opposed to under the stem with the older unit) is that you can’t use a bar end mounted mirror, since in Oz (and I suppose the UK and Japan), you want your mirror mounted on the right hand bar end.
Good point - hadn't thought of that. Although only really started using a good bar mounted mirror since getting a Di2 bike (under bar mounted unit)
never knew I had those little buttons!
I’ll be watching all of the series of Di2 videos even though I don’t have it then I’ll know what to do when I do get it 😂
Welcome to Di2. I got it last summer and love but... i can’t believe how Shimano doesn’t support Macs. Was locked out on the first firmware update and change of password.. had to beg a neighbor to use his PC.
LOL “Beg to use a PC”, just sounds so wrong doesn’t it, but I wasn’t anyway rushing to buy di2.... I wonder how Mac friendly ETAP and EPS are ..... I’ll have to look.
Richard H yeah, it was a horrible first impression since I had to cancel my ride. Not sure about etap and eps.. good luck.. but don’t wait too long, missed shifting is long gone for me now :-). Not to mention the fact that i don’t need to stare at my cassette trying to count in which gear i’m in. It displays on my elemnt ... simply amazing.
Thanks - really helpful!
Hi Shane, nice vid, did the firmware updates using battery charge to windows laptop no problems,
If anyone with a TT bike has the new single button di2 for full synchro shifting any advice welcome as that’s what I have to race my tri’s next season and need to work out best set up ?
1:20. " How to tell trademark lawyers to get fu..." Bwahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂
Why the bluetooth module isn't standard in the junction box these days is beyond me, you've also got to love not having mac support and a user interface that belongs in 1995.
When the installer said "Installing Crystal Reports" I swear Charlie XCX started up with "I just wanna go back... back to 1999".
I bought a Focus bike last year with di2. Did the same upgrade to add ant support, but found that when I installed it, it didn’t work. The di2 battery that came with the bike wasn’t compatible.
The moral of this story. Check the compatibility charts to confirm your battery model will work with the wireless component.
Great vid! Thanks.
So, I have di2 but no a buttons. However, I’ve changed my config, so it auto changes the front Derailleur up/down if cassette is too far.
Interesting. What are the part numbers for your levers?
Shane Miller - GPLama Actually I think they are udi2s , but I’ll have to hook the junction box up to the battery charger. Actually the 1st thing before even getting on the bike was to make sure I could connect to the udi2 box! Sad eh!
Means you have the older Di2. This is only supported by Newest ultegra (r8000+) or newest DA (r9100+)
Good luck with the WU111wifi unit. It will probably ask you to update via the mobile app, which will crash halfway through and may brick your battery. Did it to mine and had to change the battery under warranty. Don’t do any updates via the mobile app only the USB
Posting as this might help someone out... I found the app failed to upgrade the same DI2 battery firmware when I ran it on my iPhone 8. I retried a number of times, each time it said it needed to recover but never finished (I waited hours...). For some unknown reason I then thought of trying the exact same thing from my iPad. Again, it spotted the incomplete upgrade started on the phone but this time it completed the process first time within a couple of minutes and I was up and running. iPhone 8, iPad Pro, same iOS version installed, same tube app version, different results!
the etube version 5 is not compatible with my R8050 brc2 already.. weird
They still have the older versions for download on their website... thankfully!
Hi Shane. I came across your awesome video by coincidence, as I was trying to figure out how to update Di2 firmware, but I was unaware that I could check the rear cassette, and the garmin pages from the upper levers. Now ... my question is: does my Di2 R9150 need the EW-WU111 or not to program the buttons on the levels? Thanks in advance.
You can program them via the Shimano ETube Windows app and the Di2 battery charger plugged into the PC USB and into the junction port on the bike.
@@gplama Thanks Shane for the quick reply! So, no need to spend extra € 100 for EW-WU111, correct? I just need to follow your instructions
No need just to program your Di2. It is required if you want things like Di2 battery info, gear info on your GPS head unit, or to change display pages on your GPS.
@@gplama Then I need to spend extra € on my new toy! lol Thanks again for your great help. Have a good Sunday!
Just to clarify, does that mean you don’t need the D-Fly wireless unit to program the hood buttons and instead use the charger to connect to the Di2 system via a laptop?
Thank dear, you are the best
Hi Shane. Thanks for a no nonsense, comprehensive and well made video (a rare thing on TH-cam these days). Can't wait to play with my build (on order) #colnago
Hi great video, but I have a very specific question on Di2 battery level appearing on the Wahoo Elemnt Bolt. Does it appear as a separate field that you can configure to appear, like you can with phone battery?
No. You can see % left when looking at the sensor detail in the menu, and you'll get an on-screen warning at 15% and 10% (I believe those are the numbers). Still no configurable battery level field though.
Just picked up the same bike, supplied manually are not to flash so thanks for the video..... Side note do you use / recommend any frame protection products?
Frame protection.... just keep it clean. There's little sticker patches if you want to stop any cable rub.
@@gplama Cheers mate... and just noticed my typo... manuals not manually.
holy shit!!! awesome!!
HAHA! I guess it's a day for shoutouts! Thanks Shane :)
Hi, can you do update on the new firmware update. Also, any idea how to troubleshoot the mobile app to Di2, it always says poor connection and therefore cannot update software. Thank you
“How to tell trademark lawyers to get fu...”
That was a really long typo.
hi can you set the x switch on the left shifter to shift rear derailleur like in sram's axs.
Hi Shane, have you found a way to program your 'A' switches so that you can control your GoPro camera? It would be excellent if you could start and stop recording on your GoPro using the 'A' switches.
I'm not sure there's any way to program for commands outside of what's presented within the E-Tube config. That's a brilliant idea though and with the wireless module I'd like to see that kind of extensibility. Even to change songs with the buttons would be brilliant.
Shane Miller - GPLama it would be great if someone could use the Di2 SDK to develop a little app for this functionality. BTW I really enjoy your videos. Might see you at the TDU. Have great 2019. Cheers Meng
Hi Shane,just a quick question,can I update di2 if I have the bar end junction box which is the we-as910,I'm led to believe I can but unsure for certain
Laughing my socks off with the 'Di2 lawyers' youtube search 😂👊🏻
Hi buddy I've been using di2 since 2012 and never new you could do any of this I've always taken it to my LBS but not now
Also your assiomas I just some yesterday and on my ultegra I font need the little washer. Have you found the same now you have a different group set. And by the way the assiomas are very nice piece of kit.
Same crankset as I've been running (Ultegra/Dura-Ace/etc) so the Assioma pedals were just switched from one to the other. I can't recall about the washer sorry.
Thank you so much for this video!!
Glad it was helpful!
Could you tell me if you can shut the di2 off? What does it do when you continue clicking the button, when the LED turns red and stays on? And when you click the button again, the red and green LED turn on but go off afterwards. I just bought a di2 bike and im curious, but cant find it annywhere.
Thx!
Sir can i updates via phone?using etube apps and shimamo device bluetooth to connect to the phone?
if electronic shifting is the pinnacle of performance I wonder how mechanical shifting works against hydraulic rotor shifters
Welcome to the Borg!
Shane, I want to get into indoor training (swift/rouvy) since I can no longer ride on the road due to a degenerative eye condition. I can't afford to purchase a new trainer (I really want a Kick Snap or core). I found a first generation kicker on eBay, do you think it's worth purchasing a used unit or wait until I can ave up the dough for a new trainer?
Yep. Gen 1 Kickrs are very good value if they’re in good condition.
Hi Shane, I would like to get to hook up my di2 to a computer (which I don't have yet) . Can you display gear ration, count shift, create a graph for the gear ration with the Wahoo Bolt?
Thanks a lot, helped me.
I know nothing about Di2. Are you saying out of the box you couldn’t use the buttons to change gear. That seems weird that it is sold without it being fully functional. Glad you got it sorted.
The top lever buttons are non functional by default. The other buttons work as expected.
Did you not haveto do anything driver wise with the BCR2? Ive tested on three different computers and it wont work. They dont recognizer the charger even if i install drivers manually...
Not the I recall. Try a different USB port, or maybe another Windows machine (if possible).
Did you get di2 voltage on your volt? I cannot find it anywhere. I upgraded my new '18 TCR to di2 after a yr of trying to get to shift well with cables w/o success. Di2 worked straight away. Only real headache is that i cannot seem to find battery voltage in the fields or sensor info. Have ratios but no voltage? Help? -U10
It's not a field that can be selected.. but it is shown when you go to the setup/device pair screen on the device itself.
Welcome to Di2 world. *Spoiler alert* maybe you will never return to the mechanic world ;)
Shane is it possible to have your di2 battery detailed on a page on your wahoo bolt? Can’t see this anywhere
Thanks
It’s only displayed in the sensor settings screen at this point on Wahoo units. It does need to be a field we can configure, IMO.
@@gplama - Thanks Shane, yes it does as it would be handy to have on the data page. Just have to remember to check every couple of weeks to ensure charge is up.
I NEVER do updates via wifi or post download without a fully charged battery. Ive bricked tech over the years and luckily recovered a couple. I love but i still have a cable network at home connected where possible its never let me down.
"how to tell trademark lawyers to get fu.. DI2" HAHAHA, EPIC!! excellent vid, love the techie side of things and di2 seems to deliver generously :)
question, do you get anything different on duraace di2 in terms of wireless units, etc... or are the parts the same?
Going by the E-Tube Compatibility Chart everything is pretty much interchangeable... with the Di2 likely being a little lighter and more "refined". Maybe someone else can chip in with the real/actual Di2 Dura Ace differences, I'm still getting my head around the part numbers. :)
@@gplama I'm assuming the wireless unit will also allow you to see which gear you're in on your head unit as well as battery level?
I know it'll display/record gear information. I assume Di2 battery level will be a data field. I'll need to dive into it, I'm still learning with this getup.
@@gplama Yep, it will show battery level and display your gearing info for front and rear. You may not get your gear info recorded though, at least you wont with a Garmin unit, not sure with Wahoo. Also there are some quirks with the wireless unit, when I first put it in my setup (mix of DA 9100 and Ultegra 8000) the wireless unit wouldn't seem to take the new firmware over USB and it would then drain the battery dry within 24 hours. Reading on the internet, this is not an uncommon issue. Apparently you need to change the BT pass code via USB first and then you should be able to hook up to the phone app and update it that way. This is supposed to solve the problem and will let the wireless unit work correctly from now on. Not done it yet, but am planning on doing it in the new year.
@@ghostyjack I just installed a D-Fly unit on R8070, and I can confirm that my Wahoo Elemnt Bolt records the gear information (i.e., each data point recorded also includes the front and rear gear selected). For Shane, a good tip if you end up seemingly "bricking" the Di2 system when using the E-Tube phone application is to unplug the Di2 battery. This cured my problem when the wireless app temporarily bricked my Di2 system when updating the firmware for my D-Fly unit.