@Juguertox You should probably make your trolling more creative and funny next time because I cannot tell the difference between that and a different opinion.
In recent years he’s walked that back. He always wanted to use better hardware and real instrumentation, but by the time that became possible, he was super burnt out on the industry as a whole. There have been recent interviews he’s done where it’s obvious he looks back on his chip music quite fondly, and has expressed some interest in doing some of it again. I think part of his change of heart has come about from discovering that all those years he thought no one really noticed what he was doing, he’d amassed a following of people who were actually nuts about his music.
Tim Follin pushed the NES' sound capability to its absolute limits. The original is still a masterpiece. But I think this is what happens when somebody gives the YM2612 the same treatment. This is both a worthy tribute, and a great work all on its own. It also makes me want to launch myself into space, screaming the entire way.
Honestly, I'm replying to this comment purely because of the icon you have on currently. And then we have that "Launch yourself into space, screaming the entire way" business of yours. Totally fits the icon.
Anybody saying that an FM chip is a "bad" chip doesn't know what they are talking about, seriously some of the most memorable themes for games in Japan have been written on FM hardware, and professional Keyboards used FM synths to this day :) (Granted not the same as in the Megadrive ofcourse, time moves forward after all ;)). It just required a lot more knowledge about wave forms and how frequency modulation works. One cannot just ram a sample in :P.
Spectro YUp, most modern Synthesizers use FM as well. It is a perfect way to simulate instruments very realistically even. Granted the chips in those Synths are not only leaps and bounds above what was in the Megadrive (both in costs and in years of progress that was made.). But still rather than a sampler an FM approach just sounds better. Provided you have the proper coefficients for your modulation :).
+DehnusNorder Indeed. I've tried FM in a software based synth called Serum. I dont fully understand how to use it correctly yet but i can see the use for it. The sounds created were very interesting and i was only using a sine wave. Since Serum isnt limited to the basic sound waves and can use many others, i imagine some super cool stuff can be created! Synthesizers are such a wonder :D I wish i knew how to make music using Megadrive hardware. I always loved the YM2612
@@camulodunon i can consider myself a snes fanboy...and i guess genesis fanboy yet slightly liking the snes more. However I fucking love the sound design of the YM2612 and also GEMS, I have been studying and learning the genny sound for so long now but snes more longer. The genesis sound chip is indeed BADASS! It sounds so unique which consoles later I would say, cannot replicate. And this song specifically fits the genesis feel 😎
the accursed GEMS sound driver most of the composers used left a really bad image for the YM2612 which is why so many people thinks that it isn't capable of doing much >:VV
the fact that the music was alredy mind blowing now multiply by 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
If Tim Follin would be able to play some MD in 1990, it would definitively sound like this. I can imagine a port to MD with music totally rearranged by Tim (unlike other ports of games with his music in which he was not involved). At first, music in early MD was pretty simple programmed, so this is totally viable, as this sounds like Tim is taking full advantage of the most basic FM and make it sound like genius. Real trivia here, as you may know already, Tim Follin himself regrets not being able to do more MD soundtracks, aside for the proto cancelled Time Trax from 1994. Just imagine if he was able to work earlier on MD and actually produce many soundtracks thru 90s.
Sean, listen to Master of Monsters, Devilish, Gauntlet IV or Monster World IV for the best examples of atmospheric orchestral done right using the Gens FM synth. You may be surprised at the quality, it's truly fantastic stuff. Sadly...these are obscure games, really unfortunate because the scores are top notch and some of the best from the era.
I think more Tim & Geoff Follin's Megadrive renditions like this are needed. There's so much tunes that could be arranged on YM2612 without much loss. From Spectrum to SNES, from C64 to Amiga. Also, since the MD port of Spiderman and X-Men Arcade's Revenge had an awful music conversion, I think it's time to do a proper arrange on that soundtrack.
This is like, Silver Surfer: The Arcade Game. ...Shoot, Marvel should make that. Base it after Thunderforce style horizontal scrolling gameplay, get Tim Follin to do the music on a YM2612 or YM2151 chip and maybe a TI SN76489, put it up on PSN, XBL and Steam.
didn't regret that im sega megadrive fan boys in the 90s thanks sega for this ship yamaha baby lets get hadphones i said good headphones not crapy to have good experience
Just earlier I listened to Tim Follin's Beach from Plok! covered on the YM2612 by Savaged Regime and then I find this one here... Fuck, I don't know how proud Tim would be if he were to see those videos sometime in the future...
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT THIIIS IIIS FUUCKING AAAAAAAAWEEESOOOOOOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CAN I USE THIS MASTERPIECE IN MY VIDEOS? THIS MUSIC DRIVES ME SOOO FUUUCKIIING CRAAAAAAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
FuzzX All that you need is within your reach! gendev.spritesmind.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1062 www.kvraudio.com/product/vopm_by_sam www.alyjameslab.com/alyjameslabfmdrive.html And if you need a free DAW, this might do it: lmms.io/ Have fun.
GravianS i actually made this song without a DAW or VSTs, I typed all the notes by hand into a text editor, in the format for the SMPS sound driver that a whole bunch of Sega produced Genesis games used. The sound was recorded directly from the kega fusion emulator. It was a slow, convoluted process, and nowadays if I feel the need to make a song for the YM2612 I do it with a DAW and Valleybell's mid2smps converter.
Crash Ah. I actually know someone who wanted me to do music for ROM hacks who uses the mid2smps converter and was trying to get me to try it, I might actually need to give that a shot. Using a VST is still probably the easiest way, but there are a few caveats to doing that.
+Crash would you say that is wort to learn the first method, or better the second one? Btw, is possible to hack a rom to change the SMPS of a song by other one? it would be cool, since I have a flash cartridge for this purposes. Also, lot of thanks for all the info and advice ;)
I bet the composer of this video didin't know that Tim Follin composed Time Trax on the sega Genesis, so its okay cuz there was not a rom of time trax in 2012 until now.
i remember there being a low quality recording of the main theme from time trax on youtube well before the rom was released, but i can't remember whether it was around before i made this or not...
This is awesome. What did it take for you to make this? Because I can't figure out VOPM for the life of me, and GenesiSF is rather lacking in sound selection.
Crash84 Played super loud at Toorcamp, and people went nuts: www.mixcloud.com/toomanymoths/too-many-moths-dj-fixed-chiptuneslulz-toorcamp-2014-part_0x0/
This would have been worlds better if hitoshi sakimoto samples were used. Games like "Devlish","Midnight Resistence" and "Gauntlet IV" are proof of this. The samples here are so damn scratchy. Disappointed.
*BLAST PROCESSING INTENSIFIES*
Take that SNES, the Genesis can blast out some sweet bass like no other!
Trooper Sho *Genesis Does What Nintedon’t*
@@nobye420 Yeah, like sounds much more like a souped up 3rd gen console rather than the upcoming 5th generation without costly addons to do the job.
@@nhacamaster Uh oh call the paramedics someone is BUTTHURT
@@orangeknight6200 Dallas medic bag scream plays
This is running in the Sonic 1 sound engine, and was recorded from an emulator, it totally works on real Genesis hardware :)
Crash You mean SMPS?
You should have used the Time Trax instruments.
@Juguertox I shall ignore your opinion. This comment does not count.
@Juguertox You should probably make your trolling more creative and funny next time because I cannot tell the difference between that and a different opinion.
@Juguertox or else it has no purpose other than bullying someone.
So metal. So Genesis. Tim Follin would be proud.
Wait did tim Follin die?
@@cookimaus1 no
He didn't die, but Tim Follin hated doing video game music.
In recent years he’s walked that back. He always wanted to use better hardware and real instrumentation, but by the time that became possible, he was super burnt out on the industry as a whole. There have been recent interviews he’s done where it’s obvious he looks back on his chip music quite fondly, and has expressed some interest in doing some of it again. I think part of his change of heart has come about from discovering that all those years he thought no one really noticed what he was doing, he’d amassed a following of people who were actually nuts about his music.
Tim Follin pushed the NES' sound capability to its absolute limits. The original is still a masterpiece. But I think this is what happens when somebody gives the YM2612 the same treatment. This is both a worthy tribute, and a great work all on its own.
It also makes me want to launch myself into space, screaming the entire way.
Honestly, I'm replying to this comment purely because of the icon you have on currently.
And then we have that "Launch yourself into space, screaming the entire way" business of yours.
Totally fits the icon.
You get Time Trax
@@flygonbreloom thanks for show Time Trax in oscilloscope view.
@@camulodunon I really gotta reupload it. The current upload has shockingly bad oscilloscope lock. Corrscope gets better results nowadays.
I can feel the Blast Processing getting inside me and pulverizing my brain
Anybody saying that an FM chip is a "bad" chip doesn't know what they are talking about, seriously some of the most memorable themes for games in Japan have been written on FM hardware, and professional Keyboards used FM synths to this day :) (Granted not the same as in the Megadrive ofcourse, time moves forward after all ;)).
It just required a lot more knowledge about wave forms and how frequency modulation works. One cannot just ram a sample in :P.
+DehnusNorder Funny thing is that FM Synthesis is still used today on modern music
Spectro YUp, most modern Synthesizers use FM as well. It is a perfect way to simulate instruments very realistically even. Granted the chips in those Synths are not only leaps and bounds above what was in the Megadrive (both in costs and in years of progress that was made.).
But still rather than a sampler an FM approach just sounds better. Provided you have the proper coefficients for your modulation :).
+DehnusNorder Indeed. I've tried FM in a software based synth called Serum. I dont fully understand how to use it correctly yet but i can see the use for it. The sounds created were very interesting and i was only using a sine wave. Since Serum isnt limited to the basic sound waves and can use many others, i imagine some super cool stuff can be created! Synthesizers are such a wonder :D
I wish i knew how to make music using Megadrive hardware. I always loved the YM2612
Serum is at the forfront of modern dance music. It's so good it has litereally spawned new music genres.
anyone thay dislikes fm synth music must be tone deaf
Dude this song embodies all the reasons I love the Genesis soundcard.
That's the most badass looking T-pose I've ever seen.
This is the most “sega genesis” song remix ive heard in my life lmfao good job
“Heavily inspired by the Thunder Force IV soundtrack”
I can tell
The fact that most gamers were deprived of hearing this soundtrack due to the game's difficulty is an injustice to Tim Follin.
Well done by the way.
Deprived?! This theme just motivates me to keep on playing
whoever disliked this video needs to go rethink their life choices
jelly snes fanboys
probably R GG
huh?
They need blast processing.
MY BRAIN CAN'T HANDLE THIS MUCH RAD
Jeez, and the YM2612 usually gets mocked...
Never judge a book by its cover.
So many SNES fanboys think of the Genesis as a farting noise machine, until they hear stuff like this of course...
Yuzo Koshiro showed the world what the YM2612 can do.
@@camulodunon i can consider myself a snes fanboy...and i guess genesis fanboy yet slightly liking the snes more. However I fucking love the sound design of the YM2612 and also GEMS, I have been studying and learning the genny sound for so long now but snes more longer. The genesis sound chip is indeed BADASS! It sounds so unique which consoles later I would say, cannot replicate. And this song specifically fits the genesis feel 😎
@@camulodunon the adventures of batman and robin Jesper kyd ost
Let's get high on YM2612!
Such energy! I like how it has a hint of Road Rash percussion. Lots of different layers going on. Respect.
the accursed GEMS sound driver most of the composers used left a really bad image for the YM2612 which is why so many people thinks that it isn't capable of doing much >:VV
You'd be surprised as to what GEMS is capable of with a great musician, especially if GEMS were to be released as a VST for other music programs.
If done right gems can produce some of the best music the genesis has to offer. Vectorman and x-men 2 come to mind.
@@joedaylight and not to mention, Earthworm Jim 2 and Comix Zone.
the fact that the music was alredy mind blowing now multiply by 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Amazing!
Especially fits considering you did the awesome title screen music for Mighty Max on the Sega Genesis!
If Tim Follin would be able to play some MD in 1990, it would definitively sound like this. I can imagine a port to MD with music totally rearranged by Tim (unlike other ports of games with his music in which he was not involved).
At first, music in early MD was pretty simple programmed, so this is totally viable, as this sounds like Tim is taking full advantage of the most basic FM and make it sound like genius.
Real trivia here, as you may know already, Tim Follin himself regrets not being able to do more MD soundtracks, aside for the proto cancelled Time Trax from 1994. Just imagine if he was able to work earlier on MD and actually produce many soundtracks thru 90s.
My mind has been blown. This is amazing!
original on Nes is a masterpiece , this one too
thunderforce IV sounds !!!
Merci ;)
I don't care which 16-bit system you prefer you can't deny this is metal as fuck!
This is INCREDIBLE. How can you not have more views!?!?
THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT CAME OUT FROM THUNDERFORCE IV
Hmm, I didn't know that 2612 was that good.
Cool.
I love those Thunder Force IV guitars
This sounds like you are the Silver Surfer fighting demons, monsters and aliens all while destroying asteroids at the speed of light. It's perfect.
holy jesus mother of god its too awesome
Fr
this is awasome sega genesis win BGM 2 please
The Greatest Cover/Remix Ever Made
Great work dude! Long live PSG drums.
my feels :(
Silver surfer looks badass as this remix.
*T-POSE*
Genesis FM synth bad are you serious? the best computer game music of the 90's was made for this chip, check out streets of rage.
Good example.
Sean, listen to Master of Monsters, Devilish, Gauntlet IV or Monster World IV for the best examples of atmospheric orchestral done right using the Gens FM synth. You may be surprised at the quality, it's truly fantastic stuff. Sadly...these are obscure games, really unfortunate because the scores are top notch and some of the best from the era.
FM synthesis makes great pad sounds, take the DX-7 for example.
Some good 90s VGM were made for it, and some were made for the Super Famicom/SNES.
And Ristar, awesome immersive music
This is my JAM!!!!
Nice Thunder Force 4 style Sega Genesis cover of the song!😄🤩😎👌
I think more Tim & Geoff Follin's Megadrive renditions like this are needed. There's so much tunes that could be arranged on YM2612 without much loss. From Spectrum to SNES, from C64 to Amiga. Also, since the MD port of Spiderman and X-Men Arcade's Revenge had an awful music conversion, I think it's time to do a proper arrange on that soundtrack.
Holy crap, this is amazing!!
This is like, Silver Surfer: The Arcade Game.
...Shoot, Marvel should make that. Base it after Thunderforce style horizontal scrolling gameplay, get Tim Follin to do the music on a YM2612 or YM2151 chip and maybe a TI SN76489, put it up on PSN, XBL and Steam.
Every time I read Silver Surfer now, especially during the annihilation storyline, I hear this!
Incredibly well translated dude!
I'm feeling metal on my teeth with this music
This is so fucking rockin'!
So full of energy! I love it
My face...my fucking face melted!!!! 10/10
Makes you wonder how this would've been a great game.
Blast processing with the power cosmic.
Outstanding Job ! Now let's reprogram on Megadrive this cursed Game !
Wtf it sounds so fucking powerful
まるで神ゲーのようだ
Thank you VERY MUCH for this tune in VGM! THAAAANK YOUUUU
Silver Surfer Zone.
Excellent translation….the patches were of the razor metal variety, but I loved the notes.
dat blast prosesing
just let it go
BLAST PROSSESING!!!!!
BlAsT PrOsSeSiNg!!
figthing badnicks in dayligth
gaining speed with ring
always running on the real life
he is the only sonic moon
im lonlay
didn't regret that im sega megadrive fan boys in the 90s thanks sega for this ship yamaha baby lets get hadphones i said good headphones not crapy to have good experience
Just earlier I listened to Tim Follin's Beach from Plok! covered on the YM2612 by Savaged Regime and then I find this one here... Fuck, I don't know how proud Tim would be if he were to see those videos sometime in the future...
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
THIIIS IIIS FUUCKING AAAAAAAAWEEESOOOOOOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
CAN I USE THIS MASTERPIECE IN MY VIDEOS?
THIS MUSIC DRIVES ME SOOO FUUUCKIIING CRAAAAAAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
oh my fucking god, I want to know how to build an ym2612 to try to do something that has at least 1% of the epicness this has! D:
FuzzX All that you need is within your reach!
gendev.spritesmind.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1062
www.kvraudio.com/product/vopm_by_sam
www.alyjameslab.com/alyjameslabfmdrive.html
And if you need a free DAW, this might do it:
lmms.io/
Have fun.
GravianS i actually made this song without a DAW or VSTs, I typed all the notes by hand into a text editor, in the format for the SMPS sound driver that a whole bunch of Sega produced Genesis games used. The sound was recorded directly from the kega fusion emulator. It was a slow, convoluted process, and nowadays if I feel the need to make a song for the YM2612 I do it with a DAW and Valleybell's mid2smps converter.
Crash
Ah. I actually know someone who wanted me to do music for ROM hacks who uses the mid2smps converter and was trying to get me to try it, I might actually need to give that a shot.
Using a VST is still probably the easiest way, but there are a few caveats to doing that.
*****
Maybe! But I can't use a tracker to save my life. The piano roll is easier to wrap your head around, really.
+Crash would you say that is wort to learn the first method, or better the second one?
Btw, is possible to hack a rom to change the SMPS of a song by other one? it would be cool, since I have a flash cartridge for this purposes.
Also, lot of thanks for all the info and advice ;)
I bet the composer of this video didin't know that Tim Follin composed Time Trax on the sega Genesis, so its okay cuz there was not a rom of time trax in 2012 until now.
i remember there being a low quality recording of the main theme from time trax on youtube well before the rom was released, but i can't remember whether it was around before i made this or not...
This is awesome!
That is awesomeness !
EMBRACE MY SILVER SIX PACK BIOTCH!!!!!
Adrenaline pure
Surfer's Base Zone 1
Imagine a Technosoft or Hitoshi Sakimoto version of this?
WOOOOO!! BROOOOO! thanks for sharing
INCREDIBLES FM GUITARES !!!
Silver Fortress Zone
Silver Surfer got Thunder Force IV-ified.
What the hell inspired you to do this amazing thing?
It must have come from the gods.
THE ORIGINAL SONG INSPIRES US ALL 2 DO MANY GREAT THINGS.
=)
Thunder force IV
This song deserves much more views (y)
wow this is fucking rad
Very Awesome ! Greatest music !
will enjoy!
It's like Tim Follin and Yuzo Koshiro had a baby.
o h my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The game is still hard asf
This gem makes me feel fuckin' high!
Ooo can we get more of the nes silver surfer soundtrack in the genesis sound chip like level 2
holy fuck that's good
NICE
.......So I assume this was made in Deflemask? Could you please supply the file, so that I may have access to these amazing instruments? Please!?
Can you do the other Silver Surf song? Please :D
Boladão 😎
This is awesome.
What did it take for you to make this? Because I can't figure out VOPM for the life of me, and GenesiSF is rather lacking in sound selection.
Did you make this in TFM or a program that could bring the file to work on a real Sega genesis? Either way great job!
So good!! I'd love to play this track in a DJ set. Is there a .gym or .opm file for this?
dl.dropbox.com/u/17315175/0003%20Silver%20Surfer%20-%20Level%201.rar there's a vgm in here (plus a couple of other peoples versions)
Crash84 Thanks!
Crash84 Played super loud at Toorcamp, and people went nuts: www.mixcloud.com/toomanymoths/too-many-moths-dj-fixed-chiptuneslulz-toorcamp-2014-part_0x0/
@@Crash84 broken...8 years after it's quite normal 🙂
O som do GENESIS/MEGA DRIVE tem vida, tem "sangue correndo em suas veias". É até covardia comparar com seu contemporâneo, 😂 ,.
You should have used the Time Trax soundfont.
where can I get Thunder Force IV instruments?
Got here a bit late,but how about doing the entire soundtrack?
Was it used in a Sonic hack?
Did you ignore the echoe effect?
"file not found", please re-upload. :)
not a big fan of the percussion samples tbh. But other than that it's pretty good
Y'all mind if I...
*ＡＳＣＥＮＤ？*
This would have been worlds better if hitoshi sakimoto samples were used. Games like "Devlish","Midnight Resistence" and "Gauntlet IV" are proof of this. The samples here are so damn scratchy. Disappointed.
It's a shit game, but it's amazing music. What do you expect, it's Tim Folin.
Tim Follin el Musico de videojuegos mas sobrevalorado.
Game was shit, music was good.