It really is just outstanding, most versions i hear of it try to make it sound more bouncy or goofy in various ways, taking a lot of the feel of the original out of it; this one manages to REALLY dig its heels into the sonic feel the og has while intensifying the feel up to 10!
@@NewtubeWorldYT Probably because it's not ... "Sonic" enough? Not to mention the themeing was more based on the cartoons than it was in-game lore... But I for one did enjoy it, even if I was a bit crap at it back then... and probably still now :D
@@NewtubeWorldYT I've definitely come to terms with the fact that it can be extremely glitchy (in fact, I showed off one such example in my very first video for my channel), but I have quite a bit of fun with it! Once you really know how to manipulate the physics, you're all set.
Awesome that you've kept some of the classic instrument stuff intact- Spinball certainly had it's own special sound to it compared to the Japanese stuff from the other games!
Now see what gave GEMS its infamous sounds was a mix of the available presets in the software and a lot of the music being unquantized MIDIs. I can't say for sure, but in some cases, I do believe Howard Drossin did make his own sounds in some of the games he made music for. I do believe you could make something in GEMS that could sound exactly like what we're hearing here. Would it be easy? Absolutely not, but it could be possible as long as you know your way around an FM synth. Also, something I didn't know until recently is that GEMS does also allow access to the YM2612's channel 3 "special mode" which allows for free tuning of the four operators. I don't know if anyone made use of that, but it is there apparently
1:17 - 1:48 holy shit. That extra part you added is so fucking good. I'm not even sure I can go back to the original because I'm expecting this extra climactic part now.
I'll always maintain that Howard Drossin was an unsung hero of STI. Hell, even on his first project, he managed to make GEMS sound pretty damn decent. Toxic Caves always had a killer groove, but the way you syncopate the lead synths with the groove just punches the song up to an entirely different level. Absolutely killer work man, good to see you back at it!
I had to admit even though a lot of people hated this game I loved it more than other Sonic games. A lot of my games were stolen, lost, or traded. This one never left my collection and I never tried to get rid of it. When I finally sold my Nomad I included Sonic Spinball and other gems to sweetin' the deal and to my surprise the buyer was stoked to get a good condition Sonic Spinball with manual.
@@batteries671 I was replying to the original commenter about how sonic hysteria's version of toxic caves is a similar concept. I know savaged's stuff is good lol
currently going insane over this, didnt think it was possible to improve perfection but here we are... im in love with the dramatic feel at 1:17 (and its looped equivalent), which i always always love in a song. ill have to check more of this guys stuff out, im amazed!
Really glad you made this, these compositions really deserved more than to be done with Gems Also, if 0:38 is an intentional nod to the Virtual Sonic version then that's amazing
I've said this before and I'll say it once again, GEMS is easily capable of music as impressive as even the better half of what you have in Japanese MD games. It's just that nobody who was using GEMS actually knew about what it was capable of.
@@camulodunon I suppose that was part of the point of GEMS really. Those that had experience with how to program an FM chip would have made their own drivers. I don't think European developers used GEMS. Certainly not as much as American developers did.
@@solarflare9078 well look at every banger track the sega genesis has made. (mystic caves is a good example) i juss think the ppl who handled the music for spinball didnt know how to work with the genesis, just look at the sonic spinball options music
@@solarflare9078 if it wasn't for the crappy G.E.M.S. we may never knew that someone took the initial Toxic Caves trough it as an insult and reworked it to make it sound nicer, groovy, funky and fucking good!
Now just need some heavy metal Laval PowerHouse. Great work, if only spinball could get a remake with a sound track like this. Nice to hear a remix/arrangement that really improves on the original. Almost reminds me of the TMNT arcade game if it was a tad more sonic ish.
I love Howard Drossin's compositions, and this as well as your Comix Zone remix shows how much better his songs could have sounded if they weren't held back by GEMS.
@@an3_omx It sounds terrible on real hardware too because it is terrible. It wasn't even the best software on the Genesis. They should have used the same tracker SOJ was using.
I'm stressed out of my mind, crunching on a project due before my teacher wakes up at around 8AM but this is helping me get through it with those funky vibes. Damn this is good...
You took a pretty decent track and made it amazing. The chord progression you added to one of the later sections (1:17) just elevates the composition in ways I couldn’t have imagined. It’s subtle but highly effective!
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Who knew a place called Toxic Caves could sound so clean
ok this comment is probably one of the ever
good job 👍
Hahaha good one
Your the MJ expert aren't you ?
@@sandudelcea6707 "Expert" is maybe a bit of an exaggeration. But yeah, I know stuff about his involvement in Sonic 3, I guess.
@@BlazeHedgehog and your also ,,the guy" that makes sonic r look good on pc
All I can say is....WORM BAGGED! Its easily the best work on this track to date, and I can't imagine it will be surpassed any time soon.
BORM WAGGED!
Check out the version made for Sonic Hysteria, a fan-made sequel to Mania that's in the works. It's an absolute banger too.
It really is just outstanding, most versions i hear of it try to make it sound more bouncy or goofy in various ways, taking a lot of the feel of the original out of it; this one manages to REALLY dig its heels into the sonic feel the og has while intensifying the feel up to 10!
I'm one of the few people who actually liked this game growing up and damn is this a good remix/enhancement.
I'm one of the few who STILL likes it, and I agree!
I never did understand why people dislike Sonic Spinball. Sure it's not the best Sonic game, far from it (in my opinion), but it's not bad.
@@NewtubeWorldYT Probably because it's not ... "Sonic" enough? Not to mention the themeing was more based on the cartoons than it was in-game lore...
But I for one did enjoy it, even if I was a bit crap at it back then... and probably still now :D
@@NewtubeWorldYT I've definitely come to terms with the fact that it can be extremely glitchy (in fact, I showed off one such example in my very first video for my channel), but I have quite a bit of fun with it! Once you really know how to manipulate the physics, you're all set.
@@FuzzballRenakitty The only genesis sonic game that I haven't cleared.
This is fucking dope. Hopefully Lava Powerhouse is in the plans too.
Yess sav would absolutely crush that song in his style
The only stage a lot of us played lol. Such a jam, man
I really want to hear him do The Machine (I think lv 4)
Hey, man. Didn't expect to see you around here! (I'm from Discord if you don't remember)
@@borisnetwork Yoo! Good to see you here admiring peak content as well
Game was hard 😂
@@giovanniprovostAh no the machine is level 3. It goes toxic caves, lave powerhouse (my personal favorite), the machine, and then showdown.
I don't even have much nostalgia to Spinball's music, but this is a sick remix.
The buildup that starts at 3:05 into the drop, followed by the solo. That shit is goddamn electric. This is a perfect composition.
Awesome that you've kept some of the classic instrument stuff intact- Spinball certainly had it's own special sound to it compared to the Japanese stuff from the other games!
I think that's called.... GEMS?
Even then, I'd say Howard Drossin definitely came to make exceptionally good use of the infamous GEMS sound engine.
Now see what gave GEMS its infamous sounds was a mix of the available presets in the software and a lot of the music being unquantized MIDIs. I can't say for sure, but in some cases, I do believe Howard Drossin did make his own sounds in some of the games he made music for. I do believe you could make something in GEMS that could sound exactly like what we're hearing here. Would it be easy? Absolutely not, but it could be possible as long as you know your way around an FM synth. Also, something I didn't know until recently is that GEMS does also allow access to the YM2612's channel 3 "special mode" which allows for free tuning of the four operators. I don't know if anyone made use of that, but it is there apparently
@@autumnbrushtail Whoa, nice!
@@autumnbrushtail hidden gems in GEMS... Oops
1:17 - 1:48 holy shit. That extra part you added is so fucking good. I'm not even sure I can go back to the original because I'm expecting this extra climactic part now.
i'm the same this is definitely a superior version of the original (with all due respect paid) I've listened to it like 12 times and I still love it.
And that was mainly done with the square-only PSG, no less
Your brass hits are reminiscent of Sakimoto's work on Gauntlet 4 and Captain America
@unfloofy Of course. This is the Legend we’re talking about here.
You have good taste
Man's never missing~ ♥
HE JUST DONT MISS
Those bass and xylophone sounds are immaculate! Another banger!
The xylophone sounds are the PSG leads actually.
Loving this arrangement. Thank you for this.
The funk!
It's oozing everywhere in this song and I love every bit!
I'll always maintain that Howard Drossin was an unsung hero of STI. Hell, even on his first project, he managed to make GEMS sound pretty damn decent. Toxic Caves always had a killer groove, but the way you syncopate the lead synths with the groove just punches the song up to an entirely different level. Absolutely killer work man, good to see you back at it!
Does anyone want to be hero of Sexually Transmitted Infections though?
@@k-leb4671 sega technical institute
this has enough groove to be a Sonic 3 track
holy shit you put it into words. im going crazy over this remix which i just found. youre so right abt the syncopation this rocks!
@@k-leb4671I mean if they want to find a cure for them why not?
The absolute godfather of mega drive bass strikes again. Fantastic!
Ah man, this is great. I've always thought Drossin is grossly underappreciated as a composer.
WORM BAGGED
I had to admit even though a lot of people hated this game I loved it more than other Sonic games. A lot of my games were stolen, lost, or traded. This one never left my collection and I never tried to get rid of it. When I finally sold my Nomad I included Sonic Spinball and other gems to sweetin' the deal and to my surprise the buyer was stoked to get a good condition Sonic Spinball with manual.
babe wake up, savaged regime uploaded
Now all we needs is a ROM hack that makes the entire game sound this good :D
Sounds like something Tee Lopes would have mixed for and actual Toxic Caves 2D stage in Sonic Mania, I love it.
except even better, because it's Savaged 🤘
That moment when you realize sonic hysteria exists
@@powerONdelta sonic hysteria? some of Savaged best stuff isn't even sonic, his Terran Theme is epic
@@batteries671 I was replying to the original commenter about how sonic hysteria's version of toxic caves is a similar concept. I know savaged's stuff is good lol
Taking one of the best tracks on the MD and making it even better. Gargantuan flex
This is such a cool take on Toxic Caves! Would love to hear more stuff from Spinball in your style.
Same, I'd adore to hear Lava Powerhouse in the same style as this
@@dobrakawanimat I REALLY want him to do lava power house and the machine in this slightly remixed style
Damn, now I won't die happy if I won't hear full soundtrack in this arrangement
currently going insane over this, didnt think it was possible to improve perfection but here we are... im in love with the dramatic feel at 1:17 (and its looped equivalent), which i always always love in a song. ill have to check more of this guys stuff out, im amazed!
This naaaaaaasty!!! Love it!!!
This sounds heavenly! God bless ya and Jesus loves ya!
The rawest song on the Mega Drive library covered by the master of masters. I have no idea what I've ever done to deserve such a boon.
Lovely arrangement. Really comes together so beautifully at 1:17 🤩🤩🤩
Really glad you made this, these compositions really deserved more than to be done with Gems
Also, if 0:38 is an intentional nod to the Virtual Sonic version then that's amazing
I've said this before and I'll say it once again, GEMS is easily capable of music as impressive as even the better half of what you have in Japanese MD games. It's just that nobody who was using GEMS actually knew about what it was capable of.
@@camulodunon your right espacially when it comes to pcm samples listen to games like earthworm jim and cool spot those games have amazing samples
@@camulodunon I suppose that was part of the point of GEMS really. Those that had experience with how to program an FM chip would have made their own drivers. I don't think European developers used GEMS. Certainly not as much as American developers did.
I expected something incredible and still got overwhelmed.
Absolute beauty, idk how you made this track 30x better, GREAT JOB MAN!
Because this isn’t being held back by a crappy sound driver :p
@@solarflare9078 well look at every banger track the sega genesis has made. (mystic caves is a good example) i juss think the ppl who handled the music for spinball didnt know how to work with the genesis, just look at the sonic spinball options music
@@solarflare9078 if it wasn't for the crappy G.E.M.S. we may never knew that someone took the initial Toxic Caves trough it as an insult and reworked it to make it sound nicer, groovy, funky and fucking good!
This is THE BEST version of the music for me! Please, PLEASE, do the remix from the other musics from this game on the same style!
THE FUNNY LINES
THEY ARE SCHMOOVIN
I think I've listened to this 50 times over the course of the week.
That thick bass drum is so good and the remix is, so, very, good
My god this slaps so hard, might have just overtaken Launch Base song as my favourite track from you 🥹
Also get this on Spotify, I need this for when I’m driving or in the shower 😍
@@DoubleBarrelRiot Sewage shower
and he's back with a BANGER!!!!!!!
When I was a kid, this was the only song from Spinball
Thank goodness I could listen to it for hours
Smash Pack for GBA?
Now just need some heavy metal Laval PowerHouse.
Great work, if only spinball could get a remake with a sound track like this.
Nice to hear a remix/arrangement that really improves on the original.
Almost reminds me of the TMNT arcade game if it was a tad more sonic ish.
This feels fitting in a remaster of the game that never was, amazing quality.
This arrangement has been living in my mind rent-free for the past week
W O R M B A G G E D
You have no idea how badly I want that to be a regularly used phrase.
Imaginate a world were sonic spinball was anuncied in 2005-2015 as a spin-off
i cannot believe this sound comes out from a 1988 japanese console which had gems
I can. Also, GEMS isn't as bad as you think it is. It's just a tool after all
Damn, 233000 views on a Sega Genesis remastered song. That alone shows you, how awesome the original and this remaster are. So deserved!
I can only imagine how different toxic caves would’ve been if it sounded like this. Great job as always!
First heard the original when i was 6 - ive liked agressive funk ever since. Nice fucking work bro.
We need a Sonic Spinball soundtrack SMPS ROM H4CK treatment
Now this is how it SHOULD sound if not using the Gems Sound Driver.
i am always amazed by how you consistently manage to make a good song 10x better
Top tier arrangement as usual. Absolutely loving that little nod to Virtual Sonic.
This has always been a jam, bt you've made it so damn clean. The composition really shines like this. Bless you and bless Mr. Drossin.
I love Howard Drossin's compositions, and this as well as your Comix Zone remix shows how much better his songs could have sounded if they weren't held back by GEMS.
@@an3_omx Yes it was
@@an3_omx It sounds terrible on real hardware too because it is terrible. It wasn't even the best software on the Genesis. They should have used the same tracker SOJ was using.
@@madhatter8508 lol, nice trolling
@@amatik4569 If you think GEMS sounds good you must be tone deaf
@@madhatter8508 If Comix Zone OST is bad, then yes, I'm
I'm so glad I was alive to listen to this arrangement.
yo this Bags hella Worms
Man what a timeless bass line.
The best rearrangement so far! This is sick and the new synth lines are so cool. Such a jam!
You did It again Man! I really appreciate this tune. You rock
I'm stressed out of my mind, crunching on a project due before my teacher wakes up at around 8AM but this is helping me get through it with those funky vibes. Damn this is good...
This is what they should've done for Hysteria
You really outdone yourself pretty hard with this gem of classic game music.
Filled the track up with more goodness. And your octave shifting basslines never cease to sound good!
Pov:when you update your sega genesis
Never played Sonic Spinball, i never even managed to find a cartridge with it back in the day. But this song in fire
You took a pretty decent track and made it amazing. The chord progression you added to one of the later sections (1:17) just elevates the composition in ways I couldn’t have imagined. It’s subtle but highly effective!
This is actual fire, everything is handled perfectly. Props to you !! :D
People who passed Toxic Caves are people I consider as gods, man that level is hard-
This games whole ost is so underated
Such an absolute jam, you really captured the spirit of the original!
Savaged Regime does it again. Nice work!
I used to have a sega megadrive and one of the only playable games aside from arrow head was sonic pinball, this is so nostalgic bro.
we're bagging worms with this one 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
unironically though sonic spinball is one of my favorite sonic games
This is the best version of this i've come across so far.
Agreed
WE OUT HERE BAGGIN’ WORMS LIKE IT’S 1993 ALL OVER AGAIN!!!
🗣️🏓🔵🪱💥🔥💯
Nice.
Options music next?
I've definitely listened to this upwards of 100 times, i love that stanky bass!
This Is Amazing!
Right as we were talking about you on one of my friend's servers, you uploaded this...
Fantastic!
This alone deserves a subscription.
CLUCK ALERT ! ! !
I love SO VERY MUCH how your bass goes back and forth between normal pluck and slap. So goddamned excellent.
When I say chills over my ENTIRE body, I MEAN it man!!! HOLY COW!
Man I love this rearrange, excellent work, sir! If I could listen to the boss theme and Lava Powerhouse rearranged as well, that'd be absolutely rad.
Rock on, Savaged Regime!
Will we see a VGM download available for this?
LOVE IT!
Howard Drossin would've been proud
THE BUTTONS!!
specifically, the 'like' one
the drums slap harder than they should, amazing
Always love your rearrangements 😎👍
It’s been unGEMSed!! Sounds siiick
Genius. I keep coming back to this.
This definitely is giving Yuro Koshiro vibes. Absolutely love it. Please do more Sonic Spinball!!
You managed to discover the peak of sonic Sonic in one of its most mocked game entries. Truly a monarch of modulation.
yo this is FIRE. had me groovin' in my seat the whole way through.
I like how this sounds like the cd version in some parts, its awesome
godly
Damn this slaps so hard
Savaged Regime at it again!!