And most importantly in my opinion he's actually good at games, so he has valid input and commentary from a competitive fps (sweaty) player reference, unlike most tech youtubers.
10:07 "I'm very particular about [my videos] when it comes to the colors." I just wanted you to know that I noticed. Your videos consistently look better than many HDR graded videos on TH-cam even though yours are "only" SDR. A clear demonstration that quality isn't dependent on format!
Real proper HDR is good for a reason. TH-cam has horrible HDR representation. But Ollie does have superb videos. If he also output HDR and it was on a proper platform, you’d be blow away.
Really? Did you have both monitors before your eyes? Do you just believe in all yuotubian crap? Believing the previous information from this channel, the previous version of the zowie monitors was supposed to destroy 360 Hz from asus. Turns out this dyAC-style crap is worth nothing. Jelly instead of a picture. Fortunately, I was able to sell this scrap without any loss.
@@rickysargulesh1053 I'm not an Asus fanboy. I had the earlier benq versions together with the asus. I won't believe Benq for their technology assurances anymore. A moving image with the use of dyac has no comparison with the ASUS ips matrix. Only oled could be better. Now, when benq has released a new product, we will have great reviews of their equipment. I will not be fooled anymore :)
@@zygyt12 You can see the performance measurements of this monitor and how it perform in motion with slowed down footage. No one forces you to buy anything.
I love the slomo sequences you showed of your gameplay. The tracking on the doomfist, and the headshot in valorant are just satisfying to watch. I never really had that from a monitor review before. The monitor isn't for me because I value 1440p too much, but it was a great review.
@@kolysion164 csgo, valorant, cod… any fps in this monitor is insane, no matter if is 1080p, because the pros only search fast responsive in his movements.
You can't use the values from this video, every monitor is different and there is a big change that all you're doing applying these values is make things worse.
.. I can tell you this. I have the Alienware OLED (CPU-Z listed below) and it looks fantastic *BUT* for competitive FPS gaming I literally had to restrain myself from not punching the hole through it. It's too damn dark, and it lacks FPS gaming controls. FPS gaming isn't about color accuracy, nor is it about infinite contrast. It's about seeing the douchebag laying in a dark corner behind a dead person. Therefore, I would be extremely leary about OLED for this use. However, if all you play are immersive games then sure you'll love an OLED. Also, I thought the 21:9 ratio would be useful but it really isn't. I would recommend a 32-in 2560 x1440 or a 32-in 4K monitor. The problem even the newer RTX 40 series they will only have DisplayPort 1.4 and not 2.0. I don't know what they're thinking considering an RTX 30 series can easily saturate DisplayPort 1.4 as it is. Therefore, you're going to be stuck with HDMI. 2.1 and I have no desire for DSC (digital stream compression). My Alienware maxes out DisplayPort 1.4 (3440x1440, 175Hz, 8-bit) 10-bit would exceed its bandwidth. Also with FPS gaming at least in IMO I would avoid HDR like the plague.
Just got it. It is above all other 360 monitors. 240hz to 360hz? Yes, I can tell difference, and I had xl2546k also. I can even tell difference from 360hz AOC AGON (don't buy it) to this master piece of monitor xl2566k. I am in love actually.
@@antonioberrios5978 if your PC can keep up the frames it is great. I actually upscale some games to 1440p so you have better clarity and I have the 4090 gpu so the bottle neck is still the CPU most of the time lol
do i need 360hz. I havebenq 144hz monitor my pc can ez get 500fps+ will i see the difference in spotting enemies?Will I see them come out from behind the wall?Smoothly
I have been waiting for this review and really enjoyed it. You did an amazing job technically reviewing the monitor and included gameplay! I can't say enough good things about the quality Optimum Tech puts into the reviews.
I'm happy zowie finally came out with a 360hz monitor, but it seems this should have been released 6 months ago. With the 500hz Asus monitor creeping up, it just seems a bit too late for this release. Awesome video as always!
@@3ildcard They don't have a big market share not even cs go professionals use their mice anymore which btw is their biggest market, also who buys a garbage tn panel in almost 2023?
@@roccatsenseful Zowie mice are still used by half the CSGO players, with Logitech and Razer making up the rest. In Valorant they're the 2nd most popular mouse brand. And every e-sports competition out there uses Zowie monitors, so yea their market share is still massive.
Simple, clean and to-the-point videos with clean thumbnails and no bickering, bitching or distractions. It's so refreshing compared to some of the other tech channels I watch.
@@ExZ1te Yes, and even GN. I’m sick of the rants about how evil certain businesses are and what people and legislators need to do to fight them. I just wanna see cool tech lol
Great content as always, and extremely sincere! Very glad that you compared and gave unbiased opinion on whether upgrading from good 240hz panels is worth it or not, as I would have to sweat a whole lot more just to get my hands on one - prices in countries other than USA and alike are so high, the update seems like miles away 😅.
OMG thank you so much for this video, I was looking for a review of XL2566K since ZOWIE released the video about it and I'm happy that your review is finally out. Can't wait to buy it! I love CS:GO and I'm using the XL2411K as of now so this is gonna be a huge upgrade.
Damn was hoping they would go for a 1080/1440 240hz+ OLED 24" for their next release, the 0.1ms response + bonus good color/contrast be amazing for e-sports
Yeah. 360hz is really niche imo, basically only makes sense for cs/valorant while most other shooters would benefit more from 1440p for increased visual clarity especially at distance.
I switched to the Acer Nitro XV252Q monitor a few months ago. It is set to 390hz OD extreme. I play mainly comp fps games (OW & Valorant) but use aim trainers even more (Aimlab & Kovaaks). While the difference between 390hz and 240hz is not as noticeable as 240hz to 144hz and definitely not 144hz to 60hz, it is definitely noticeable, specifically in aim trainers. Doing fast tracking tasks or reaction time based tasks definitely benefit from the less noticable ghosting. There are some niche scenarios where you can notice it in game (holding an angle against a wide swing, tracking a tracer), I think if you only play the games and don't aim train, it isn't worth the cost difference but of you're also a masochist with more hours on Voltaic tasks than in any games, I'd pick one up. You will get better at any tasks by doing it more rather than just buying new gear, but if you are already in that top
@@glitchinthematrix9306 while I haven't tried the exact model in this video, their 240hz have been standard at many LAN events for a while now and work well. I have used IPS, TN and VA panels in the past and IPS and VA panels definitely have the edge when it comes to color accuracy and viewing angles. That being said those things aren't that important to me on an FPS monitor compared to motion clarity and response times. I play FPS on the Nitro but use a Samsung G7 for media and any games that aren't as reliant on FPS. If you're only going to have a single monitor setup I would probably go IPS or VA but the TN panels I have used in the past never bothered me.
@@posttension4668 I had the 390hz and the benq 2546k. Sold all my gear few months ago which I regret. I think i'm gonna go for this benq 2566k. I enjoyed the motion on benq 2546k which i later replaced with the 390hz monitor. That one felt more responsive to me somehow. Thats why i'm little contemplating the 390hz fps from acer was a lovely monitor so was the benq for motion..
I just bought a 360 hz ips monitor recently, and i feel at this point performance difference is so minimal that if i miss shots they are all on me and hardware limitations are negligible
I've been waiting all year for the PG27AQN to come out. I hope the reviews of it are good. I want a high refresh monitor because I feel like in games where you look left and right a lot it will reduce my motion sickness
Something people is forgetting is, even if your GPU can't produce same amounts fps as the hz, the hz is still making the picture more pleasant to look at.
How does every other tech channel just describe stuff as "nice" or "extremely good" while Optimum Tech rolls in here swinging definitive proof on why new tech is goated or bunk? I'm still pretty sure that Optimum Tech is the only tech channel out there that talked about stuff like the PBO curve on the 5900x literally gaining performance with less power and the Razer motion sync with real world results on the motionsync. Unreal.
I stupidly went from 1080p 240hz to 4k 144hz and it's turned out to be a really dumb decision (I mainly play FPS so the drop in refresh rate is very noticeable). This looks nice but I think I'm gonna hold out for 27" oled @ 1440p & 240hz+. I am not a competitive player, so £600 for 1080p TN in 2022 is a hard sell.
I'm using 390hz asus (overdrive: normal, vrb: normal), how would you describe the performance gap? I know it probably isnt worth upgrading, but money aside - is zowie noticeably better to switch to it?
I feel like the only solution to this problem with nicer looking panels would be an OLED gaming monitor, but I don’t think that would be cheap enough to reach the masses. EDIT: I was right. OLED gaming monitors are $999.99 at the cheapest.
Love your videos! a video tip from me is to make a video about common screen problems. I just bought a 240hz zowie and had no idea that there are so many problems there can be and what causes them. i had vertical inversion artifacts, took some time before i got down the facts that it was a common TN panel problem. I believe that theres not tons of info about that, and would make a great video!
Which 1080/1440p 240hz monitors would be your suggestions? I just want a more smooth monitor for better tracking, my current one seems to have a lot of motion blur.
It would have been nice to see the overdrive performance at various refresh rates and in particular how bad the ghosting becomes at lower frame rates. If a panel ends up looking like shit for everything outside of a few low stress comp games people might be less inclined to buy it.
I feel like 2023 will be the year of gaming grade OLED panels. Although TN panels will likely continue being the standard in the competitive settings, I personally cannot go back to TN after I saw how fast and clear latest OLED panels can be.
I think the issue with 240hz+ isn't whether or not there's a difference so much as whether or not the person using them can actually tell the difference. Based on some of the tests LTT have done with a spectrum of gamers(including pros), even pros may not consistently notice the difference. If you happen to be in that range that DOES, then sure, this would be a pretty awesome option. Unfortunately, most won't notice it, and even if you did, you're making the choice of trading off resolution and contrast for a TN panel. It's not to say it's the wrong choice, but one where you'd better be aware of where your capabilities/requirements are and not just get caught up on the potential of what it can do(pretty much that pro hardware doesn't close the gap to allowing a casual to match a pro's performance). Cool tech, interesting options, and stuff where coverage definitely helps those who can take advantage of it. But don't mistake potential performance for usable performance. Unfortunately, that's something watchers can't decide without going out and test driving these options for themselves.
i would trade resolution and contrast for extra frames and motion clarity, because in fast paced games you are always in motion and it doesnt matter what resolution and colours are when it is all blurred
@@anglchnn It's not all blurred since a few years ago. Idc how fast you are, a samsung g7 at 165hz will do a lot of a better job, since you can actually see what are you aiming for, unlike on a TN.
I’m waiting for 27” 240Hz 4k OLED as my next do all monitor upgrade due to OLED’s inherently lower total system latency and color vibrancy/accuracy. Razer features a similar panel to this on their latest Razer Blade laptop. A testing video on it would be very interesting and informative on whats to come for OLED advancement. Thank you for the time and effort you put into making quality videos!
I would love a comparison for fps gaming between this and the new QD OLED displays. They have like .1ms Grey to grey and near instant response. The refresh is lower but the way the panels are designed should be a fun comparison for FPS games. From what i've read the QD OLEDs have nearly zero motion delay because of the way they display the image.
The reason why companies overdrive modes aren't set right is because the overdrive level required to get no inverse ghosting CHANGES based on temperature. If you are in a hot environment, you need less overdrive than if you were in a cold environment.
Is the response time at 1.5ms only possible if you’re pushing full refresh rate or it would be fine in a game that cant do more than 240FPS? I want it for Warzone but only interested in the response time vs my current Benq2546k
@@tienathua1820 I am just angry because I contacted Benq 4 months ago about their new plans and they said not any time soon and now they have this 360hz for the same damn price almost.
I still use an Asus PG279Q from 2015 and it’s insane how that monitor still holds up to this day. 1440p, 165hz, IPS, G-Sync, even to this day there isn’t really any monitor that’s a straight up upgrade in every department as far as I know. You can either go upgrade to 4K, which I don’t care about or upgrade to 240hz or more, but I can’t justify getting a new monitor just for that as 165hz is already really smooth. Also you can’t simply run every game at 240+ fps. I guess I’ll upgrade once there’s something like a 4K 240hz OLED monitor for a reasonable price, but I don’t think that’s anytime soon.
@@tibodoz383 Yes 4k ruins competitive fps gameplay 100% this is why. Event rules for fps comp & for e-sports are 1080p for a reason less input lag & more fps the better for latency. That is why you will never see a pro player playing on 4k ever. For those reasons.
Zowie biding their time on getting their hands on a solid 1440p OLED panel. One can at least hope. Only thing I would consider upgrading from my current XL2546k.
Would be awesome if you had a site that listed your recommendations for different monitors, mice, etc. and what settings to run them at (if applicable). Great video as always!
Hey @Optimum Tech, for some reason you didn't say anything about input lag. This is also very important. Yeah, its Zowie, but it would be nice to see a comparison between this monitor and the Asus 360hz monitor.
What all these Tech channels fail to mention is that dyac makes micro stutter a lot more noticeable so for the best results you want to cap your frame rate to the average minimum to avoid it and get the smoothest image possible. That’s why I sold my xl2546. I couldn’t stand the micro stutters and I found that I had the best experience with dyac with my fps capped to 180 in apex. I would recommend the pg259qnr over this since it has native gsync, better viewing angles and colors and it’s on sale for only 300 my current time of posting.
Still using my 15mth old Alienware 1080p 360hz ips screen and it is more than enough for me for my fps title playing. It’s great for general use, but for high fps, a noticeable step above my old 240hz Samsung screen and colour representation has been more than good enough for my uses. I’ve personally found monitor advancements have been more impressive than GPU advancements for my gaming experience as many cpu/gpus are capable of pushing these 360fps+ for many e-sports titles currently on the market. As stated many of these titles are currently pushing into the 500+Fps, even on the not so premium hardware.
I love it how 20+ years after the demise of CRTs and total domination of LCDs, manufacturers at some point were like "Ok we've finally figured it out: LCDs just need to be more like CRTs"
It kinda sucks that for people like myself, who prefer 1440p over 1080, we have to compromise when it comes to fast-paced shooters versus more story-driven games. Not to mention if you like to be productive or work with accurate colours _and_ game at high refresh rates and low latency .. you're stuck getting two different monitors for the two different sides of your computer usage. Be nice to have a single panel that actually _can_ do both with as _few_ compromises as possible - the dream obviously being _zero_ compromises at all. I wish more focus in the monitor industry was aimed at 1440p in general, but especially in regards to faster-paced action, really at this point in time _nobody_ should still be using 1080p monitors - we should have already moved on to 1440p being the bottom of the product line, so the next focus can be 4k improvements. Just a personal opinion, but I feel like the continued attention that 1080p is getting is just holding back the entire monitor industry - not to mention the GPU industry too since they don't have to put so much effort into producing actually decent 1440p-aimed GPUs and instead can get away with performance for 1080p gaming and then the other half of their product line can entirely be about 4k rendering and compute performance. Feels like 1440p exists in this weird void between the two.
It can be done - HP Omen X 27 - 240Hz 1440p 5.5ms response time without overshoot. Dci-p3 and srgb coverage better than this Zowie. But it's TN panel which means contrast is pretty bad. It's shame that most companies left TN while they are still the fastest LCD screen. But I guess OLEDs will be better in every way so future is bright.
Are you not aware of the PG27AQN? 27" 1440p 360hz IPS w/ULMB2 (better than DyAc+)? I'd wait for the OLED version of that exact panel though next year, you'll get the best of all worlds especially increased pixel response time and GTG.
Even if this thing would do a 1000hz, a 1080p screen is inherently flawed due to the low pixel density around the crosshair. Enemy heads in the distance just aren't sharp. You need that sharpness for precision. Especially in the distance.
I'm not sure that's relevant because very good players aim intuitively at the head without actually looking once they spot a body. It's all muscle memory.
This is only a problem if you play BR games with gigantic maps. For tactical FPS games like Val, CS, and R6 this is a non issue. Hell most pro CS players still play 1280x960 and 1024x768. They dont give a shit about sharpness lmao. Its similar for R6 and it would be the same for Valorant if Riot didn't lock the aspect ratio.
I first came to your channel for the Asus PG259QN, and I think I'm gonna be getting this one in the future because of you lol. ULMB/DyaC simply makes everything better from my experience.
Quite well tuning they did for it. I take it they're working on those 500Hz and there-about monitor. Though I can't wait to see 1000Hz OLED one day. Not sure how far can LCD be pushed, but even still it's being pushed quite far already. It's still LCD in the end so it's slow. For 1000Hz for sure OLED definitely. Good we're seeing OLED monitors hitting so, in time.
I wonder, would an OLED panel be able to perform better than the Zowie, if there was a 360hz monitor out there? Because LG is going to make OLED monitor displays under 30 inches and I'm kinda hyped for the monitors that are going to come out of that.
Best tech channel on yt . The aesthetic, the shots , the work put in each video , everything is perfect. Keep up the amazing work
And most importantly in my opinion he's actually good at games, so he has valid input and commentary from a competitive fps (sweaty) player reference, unlike most tech youtubers.
agreed
I agree
@@superior96 I actually been wanting him D2D and Dmitry to do battle. They are all good.
Facts
10:07 "I'm very particular about [my videos] when it comes to the colors." I just wanted you to know that I noticed. Your videos consistently look better than many HDR graded videos on TH-cam even though yours are "only" SDR. A clear demonstration that quality isn't dependent on format!
True, I've watched these videos on an Oled and a QN90a both calibrated and they look great.
TBF HDR is completely broken on TH-cam.
Real proper HDR is good for a reason. TH-cam has horrible HDR representation. But Ollie does have superb videos. If he also output HDR and it was on a proper platform, you’d be blow away.
His name is Ali
@@RiceCubeTechThere are good HDR videos on TH-cam. YT may not be optimized for HDR, but it’s far from “horrible”
This is a monitor for competitive shooters, and it shows. No frills in the design, just uncompromising performance, at least for a TN panel. Love it.
Personally, I would have liked them to shorten those bezels, monitor looks ancient bc of it.
@@ExZ1te Benq made thick bezel on purpose to reduce light reflection from the screen
500hz is the benchmark for uncompromising performance now though.
@@ExZ1te I love thick square bezels tbh. Industrial design ftw.
@@HeloisGevit True but if the motion handling is trash then 360 dyac+ will suffice.
Honestly I immediately noticed the difference between the Asus and Zowie. Pretty impressive and for competitive players worth considering
Really? Did you have both monitors before your eyes? Do you just believe in all yuotubian crap? Believing the previous information from this channel, the previous version of the zowie monitors was supposed to destroy 360 Hz from asus. Turns out this dyAC-style crap is worth nothing. Jelly instead of a picture. Fortunately, I was able to sell this scrap without any loss.
@@zygyt12 this
@@zygyt12 Dude I can see the smearing on the Asus compared to the Zowie. I don't know why you feel so bitter
@@rickysargulesh1053 I'm not an Asus fanboy. I had the earlier benq versions together with the asus. I won't believe Benq for their technology assurances anymore. A moving image with the use of dyac has no comparison with the ASUS ips matrix. Only oled could be better. Now, when benq has released a new product, we will have great reviews of their equipment. I will not be fooled anymore :)
@@zygyt12 You can see the performance measurements of this monitor and how it perform in motion with slowed down footage. No one forces you to buy anything.
I love the slomo sequences you showed of your gameplay. The tracking on the doomfist, and the headshot in valorant are just satisfying to watch. I never really had that from a monitor review before.
The monitor isn't for me because I value 1440p too much, but it was a great review.
this monitor is for CSGO, zowie is for CSGO, if you don't need this monitor, you just don't play CSGO
@@kolysion164 csgo, valorant, cod… any fps in this monitor is insane, no matter if is 1080p, because the pros only search fast responsive in his movements.
@@YoInkosii I have returned it, I use now pg27aqn , far better
@@kolysion164 Fortnite, Overwatch, Valorant, CSGO, Pubg, alot of games could get good FPS in 1080p nowadays
@@jpesicka492 360hz 1440p is the best
A-Class content man. You just keep setting the bar higher and higher. Well done.
I love the fact that you gave people essentially everything we need to colour calibrate our screens should we buy it. Extremely appreciated 👌
You can't use the values from this video, every monitor is different and there is a big change that all you're doing applying these values is make things worse.
@@SUR3ND3RNL Its a pretty good starting point. Outside of minor variances, if the panel is the same it should have the same characteristics.
@@rdmz135 The settings your monitor shipped with is the best starting point
@@SUR3ND3RNL no
I am looking forward to your first OLED review👍 I really appreciate all the additional info that we don’t get from other reviews.
.. I can tell you this. I have the Alienware OLED (CPU-Z listed below) and it looks fantastic *BUT* for competitive FPS gaming I literally had to restrain myself from not punching the hole through it. It's too damn dark, and it lacks FPS gaming controls. FPS gaming isn't about color accuracy, nor is it about infinite contrast. It's about seeing the douchebag laying in a dark corner behind a dead person.
Therefore, I would be extremely leary about OLED for this use. However, if all you play are immersive games then sure you'll love an OLED.
Also, I thought the 21:9 ratio would be useful but it really isn't. I would recommend a 32-in 2560 x1440 or a 32-in 4K monitor. The problem even the newer RTX 40 series they will only have DisplayPort 1.4 and not 2.0. I don't know what they're thinking considering an RTX 30 series can easily saturate DisplayPort 1.4 as it is. Therefore, you're going to be stuck with HDMI. 2.1 and I have no desire for DSC (digital stream compression). My Alienware maxes out DisplayPort 1.4 (3440x1440, 175Hz, 8-bit) 10-bit would exceed its bandwidth. Also with FPS gaming at least in IMO I would avoid HDR like the plague.
Forgot my CPU-Z 9MM3CZ and 0099WW ... If I put the whole URL, Google would delete my reply.
Just got it.
It is above all other 360 monitors.
240hz to 360hz? Yes, I can tell difference, and I had xl2546k also. I can even tell difference from 360hz AOC AGON (don't buy it) to this master piece of monitor xl2566k.
I am in love actually.
Mine is coming in the mail. I have the 2546k currently and I am super excited for this
@@DiMezClimbz how do you like it i just ordered mine
@@antonioberrios5978 if your PC can keep up the frames it is great. I actually upscale some games to 1440p so you have better clarity and I have the 4090 gpu so the bottle neck is still the CPU most of the time lol
do you think its worth upgrading from 240 to 360
do i need 360hz. I havebenq 144hz monitor my pc can ez get 500fps+ will i see the difference in spotting enemies?Will I see them come out from behind the wall?Smoothly
I was WAITING for YOUR review to drop, thank you so much!
I have been waiting for this review and really enjoyed it. You did an amazing job technically reviewing the monitor and included gameplay! I can't say enough good things about the quality Optimum Tech puts into the reviews.
Thank You for your in depth comparison! As far as tech goes, you're WAYYY ahead of the pack!
I'm happy zowie finally came out with a 360hz monitor, but it seems this should have been released 6 months ago. With the 500hz Asus monitor creeping up, it just seems a bit too late for this release. Awesome video as always!
@@3ildcard They don't have a big market share not even cs go professionals use their mice anymore which btw is their biggest market, also who buys a garbage tn panel in almost 2023?
@TEX ya wait till you see the garbage Colour’s and your eyes hurt
Naah you're just wrong
@@christien6230 colors about Minecraft or Fortnite 😂?
@@roccatsenseful Zowie mice are still used by half the CSGO players, with Logitech and Razer making up the rest. In Valorant they're the 2nd most popular mouse brand. And every e-sports competition out there uses Zowie monitors, so yea their market share is still massive.
Simple, clean and to-the-point videos with clean thumbnails and no bickering, bitching or distractions.
It's so refreshing compared to some of the other tech channels I watch.
cough cough LTT cough...
@@ExZ1te Yes, and even GN. I’m sick of the rants about how evil certain businesses are and what people and legislators need to do to fight them. I just wanna see cool tech lol
Great content as always, and extremely sincere! Very glad that you compared and gave unbiased opinion on whether upgrading from good 240hz panels is worth it or not, as I would have to sweat a whole lot more just to get my hands on one - prices in countries other than USA and alike are so high, the update seems like miles away 😅.
I’ve been watching you for 2-3+ years. I don’t know how you don’t have far more than a million subscribers
OMG thank you so much for this video, I was looking for a review of XL2566K since ZOWIE released the video about it and I'm happy that your review is finally out. Can't wait to buy it! I love CS:GO and I'm using the XL2411K as of now so this is gonna be a huge upgrade.
Great review, did a good job showcasing why this 360hz panel is a cut above the rest!
Your production quality and unique investigations are just absolutely top-notch
Gotta love the Gray to Gray response time grid. It's very informative. Please don't stop showing it.
Damn was hoping they would go for a 1080/1440 240hz+ OLED 24" for their next release, the 0.1ms response + bonus good color/contrast be amazing for e-sports
Yeah. 360hz is really niche imo, basically only makes sense for cs/valorant while most other shooters would benefit more from 1440p for increased visual clarity especially at distance.
You're ignorant to how Zowie operates if you thought this.
Always a good day when Ali posts
I switched to the Acer Nitro XV252Q monitor a few months ago. It is set to 390hz OD extreme. I play mainly comp fps games (OW & Valorant) but use aim trainers even more (Aimlab & Kovaaks). While the difference between 390hz and 240hz is not as noticeable as 240hz to 144hz and definitely not 144hz to 60hz, it is definitely noticeable, specifically in aim trainers. Doing fast tracking tasks or reaction time based tasks definitely benefit from the less noticable ghosting. There are some niche scenarios where you can notice it in game (holding an angle against a wide swing, tracking a tracer), I think if you only play the games and don't aim train, it isn't worth the cost difference but of you're also a masochist with more hours on Voltaic tasks than in any games, I'd pick one up. You will get better at any tasks by doing it more rather than just buying new gear, but if you are already in that top
Do you prefer the acer nitro over benq. It has ips and better colours. Do you think the ghosting is not that bad?
@@glitchinthematrix9306 while I haven't tried the exact model in this video, their 240hz have been standard at many LAN events for a while now and work well. I have used IPS, TN and VA panels in the past and IPS and VA panels definitely have the edge when it comes to color accuracy and viewing angles. That being said those things aren't that important to me on an FPS monitor compared to motion clarity and response times. I play FPS on the Nitro but use a Samsung G7 for media and any games that aren't as reliant on FPS. If you're only going to have a single monitor setup I would probably go IPS or VA but the TN panels I have used in the past never bothered me.
@@posttension4668 I had the 390hz and the benq 2546k. Sold all my gear few months ago which I regret. I think i'm gonna go for this benq 2566k. I enjoyed the motion on benq 2546k which i later replaced with the 390hz monitor. That one felt more responsive to me somehow. Thats why i'm little contemplating the 390hz fps from acer was a lovely monitor so was the benq for motion..
Yes acer is goated monitor for Kovaaks
Thanks for this comment, convinced me to get the Acer instead of waiting for this Zowie model to be back in stock.
I preordered mine and was a little nervous doing so without reviews being out. I'm hyped. Thanks OT you're my freakin hero.
How did it go? Conflicted in buying one due to the current market and what’s out
damn now this is proper testing methodology, thanks for the extra effort
Can't appreciate it enough. I don't have the words to express how elegantly technical you're being, such a nice video. 🍻🙌
This is probably one of the best monitor available for competitive CSGO and Valorant players.
This was so comprehensive it was freaking amazing. Keep up the amazing content!
I just bought a 360 hz ips monitor recently, and i feel at this point performance difference is so minimal that if i miss shots they are all on me and hardware limitations are negligible
I wonder if more hz matters or companies should focus on Motion clarity mote. Like with black Fram insertions. Only makes sense
First astronaut: "Wait, I'm bad?"
Second astronaut, pointing gun: "Always have been."
@@liquidsunshine697 actually what we really need now is being able to use bfi + vrr at the same time
@@413fps 1000%
@@413fps maybe for me I want the brightness not to drop but I don't think that's possible. Just need brighter oleds
Leading with a side-by-side? Ali ain't clickbaiting us, ain't he 🔥love the video !
I've been waiting all year for the PG27AQN to come out. I hope the reviews of it are good.
I want a high refresh monitor because I feel like in games where you look left and right a lot it will reduce my motion sickness
Biggest reduction in motion sickness is FOV crank it up.
Same here. Excited about XL2566K but I don't really want to go back to 1080p TN...
CRT FTW no input lag or Latency. But there heavy 🤣
I was waiting for this video from you for the last couple of days. Thanks bro.
Big thumbs up for this video, very well layed out and informative, probably the best monitor review I've seen in a long while.
Something people is forgetting is, even if your GPU can't produce same amounts fps as the hz, the hz is still making the picture more pleasant to look at.
Wow. The 1.5ms response time is getting close to OLED levels of response times. Really impressive.
1.5ms and oled are 0.1ms, it's not even close...
@@kolysion164oled burn out
I really love how you break it down with great footage
How does every other tech channel just describe stuff as "nice" or "extremely good" while Optimum Tech rolls in here swinging definitive proof on why new tech is goated or bunk? I'm still pretty sure that Optimum Tech is the only tech channel out there that talked about stuff like the PBO curve on the 5900x literally gaining performance with less power and the Razer motion sync with real world results on the motionsync. Unreal.
Holy shit a review for it. When I got the email I was so tempted to buy it
I stupidly went from 1080p 240hz to 4k 144hz and it's turned out to be a really dumb decision (I mainly play FPS so the drop in refresh rate is very noticeable). This looks nice but I think I'm gonna hold out for 27" oled @ 1440p & 240hz+. I am not a competitive player, so £600 for 1080p TN in 2022 is a hard sell.
How are you not enjoying 4k 144hz? I play a lot of fps like cod and I enjoy 4k more over my 390hz ips 1080p there.
Your username suits you well
bro wtf your channel is tooo gooood
Xl2546X with dyac2 or xl2566k???
Always choose the monitor that matches what your pc can output to get the best experience.
I'm using 390hz asus (overdrive: normal, vrb: normal), how would you describe the performance gap? I know it probably isnt worth upgrading, but money aside - is zowie noticeably better to switch to it?
thank you for the early review, great detail and presentation as always! :)
Any recommendation for a 240hz 1080p monitor other than the XG2431? I can’t find XG2431 in my region.
Did you mess up at 8:45 with the texts? It says Dyac off on both but they're extremely clearly
I feel like the only solution to this problem with nicer looking panels would be an OLED gaming monitor, but I don’t think that would be cheap enough to reach the masses.
EDIT: I was right. OLED gaming monitors are $999.99 at the cheapest.
this guy gets buffer in every review 😳💪🏾
Love your videos! a video tip from me is to make a video about common screen problems. I just bought a 240hz zowie and had no idea that there are so many problems there can be and what causes them. i had vertical inversion artifacts, took some time before i got down the facts that it was a common TN panel problem. I believe that theres not tons of info about that, and would make a great video!
Mines arriving in a few days, was waiting for your review. Thanks!
Which 1080/1440p 240hz monitors would be your suggestions? I just want a more smooth monitor for better tracking, my current one seems to have a lot of motion blur.
Try asus! I dont remember the name!
ViewSonic ELITE XG271QG 27 Inch 1440p 1ms 240Hz IPS, ViewSonic OMNI XG2431 24 Inch 1080p 0.5ms 240Hz IPS
two best 240hz monitors
@@nightcorexxx666 ye, thats good too, it also has been proved by blur buster!
Mag251rx by MSI.
As a sweaty tac fps player thanks for all the useful information! Just pre ordered this 😅
Hey @Optimum Tech, What do you think about 1000hz mouse getting obsolete for higher refresh hz monitor.
Really appreciate the high-speed camera footage instead of just saying "X feels smoother than Y".
It would have been nice to see the overdrive performance at various refresh rates and in particular how bad the ghosting becomes at lower frame rates. If a panel ends up looking like shit for everything outside of a few low stress comp games people might be less inclined to buy it.
yesssss ever since i saw this monitor come out ive been waiting for optimum to make a video
Hey Optimum Tech.
Do you consider the Zowie XL2566k 360hz better than the Acer XV252QF 390hz for e-sport titles?
God thank you so much I was looking all over the internet and nothing answered my questions till I found this ur the goat
I feel like 2023 will be the year of gaming grade OLED panels. Although TN panels will likely continue being the standard in the competitive settings, I personally cannot go back to TN after I saw how fast and clear latest OLED panels can be.
I just wish they'd offer more OLED monitors and with higher refresh rates. Hopefully they come soon. 🙏
@JacobTech LG is in the process of making 27 and 32 inch oleds soon
@@JagsP95 If by soon you meant mid to late 2023, then yes.
@@MrYoungkg that is soon in the tech world, thats like only 3-4 quarters away
@@MrYoungkg you mean 2024?
Best reviewer by far. Always entertaining to watch!
I think the issue with 240hz+ isn't whether or not there's a difference so much as whether or not the person using them can actually tell the difference. Based on some of the tests LTT have done with a spectrum of gamers(including pros), even pros may not consistently notice the difference. If you happen to be in that range that DOES, then sure, this would be a pretty awesome option. Unfortunately, most won't notice it, and even if you did, you're making the choice of trading off resolution and contrast for a TN panel.
It's not to say it's the wrong choice, but one where you'd better be aware of where your capabilities/requirements are and not just get caught up on the potential of what it can do(pretty much that pro hardware doesn't close the gap to allowing a casual to match a pro's performance).
Cool tech, interesting options, and stuff where coverage definitely helps those who can take advantage of it. But don't mistake potential performance for usable performance. Unfortunately, that's something watchers can't decide without going out and test driving these options for themselves.
i would trade resolution and contrast for extra frames and motion clarity, because in fast paced games you are always in motion and it doesnt matter what resolution and colours are when it is all blurred
Oh yeah wait until 1000hz become a thing in 2026 and I'm sure comparing 360hz and 1000hz will have a big difference on the eyes.
@@obamalastname34 ofc it will, but i dont think they are real until 2030
the gtg on these monitors cant show full 360hz, one of the main reasons the change isnt as noticeable
@@anglchnn It's not all blurred since a few years ago.
Idc how fast you are, a samsung g7 at 165hz will do a lot of a better job, since you can actually see what are you aiming for, unlike on a TN.
Dream come true, for me the best combination of monitor use is this + a 4k 144hz display for more cinematic games
Please do a comparison between this and the Acer XV252QF, I’m curious to see how the 2 are compared to eachother.
THIS
i usually see lots of ghosting when i pause the video, but with this monitor i can barely find it anywhere. holy crap
I’m waiting for 27” 240Hz 4k OLED as my next do all monitor upgrade due to OLED’s inherently lower total system latency and color vibrancy/accuracy. Razer features a similar panel to this on their latest Razer Blade laptop. A testing video on it would be very interesting and informative on whats to come for OLED advancement. Thank you for the time and effort you put into making quality videos!
I thought OLED kinda sucked as pc monitors cuz of burn in
We don't even have that cable is able to handle that bandwidth :D but if with lower color chroma, could be :D
THIS
@@deannguyen1910 what about displayport 2.0 ?
Great channel , great at games very detailed and reviewing the best stuff out there. Keep up the great work.
I would love a comparison for fps gaming between this and the new QD OLED displays. They have like .1ms Grey to grey and near instant response. The refresh is lower but the way the panels are designed should be a fun comparison for FPS games. From what i've read the QD OLEDs have nearly zero motion delay because of the way they display the image.
thing is, these QD OLED panels are all ultrawide for some reason, not great for competitive csgo, ow or valorent
@@Ked_gaming if you travel to lans, sure. But my Oled ud is grelt, letterboxd, for csgo. Stopped using my zowie 240hz after getting it
@@SavageGordon wooow
The reason why companies overdrive modes aren't set right is because the overdrive level required to get no inverse ghosting CHANGES based on temperature. If you are in a hot environment, you need less overdrive than if you were in a cold environment.
Is the response time at 1.5ms only possible if you’re pushing full refresh rate or it would be fine in a game that cant do more than 240FPS? I want it for Warzone but only interested in the response time vs my current Benq2546k
Xl2546k still solid though, im happy with it but the colour is still horrible, the red colour😂
@@tienathua1820 I am just angry because I contacted Benq 4 months ago about their new plans and they said not any time soon and now they have this 360hz for the same damn price almost.
@@frazmeup i would be the same if i were you!
ali ali ali another banger video, i felt this was a aim montage. Nutty valorant headshots.
I still use an Asus PG279Q from 2015 and it’s insane how that monitor still holds up to this day.
1440p, 165hz, IPS, G-Sync, even to this day there isn’t really any monitor that’s a straight up upgrade in every department as far as I know.
You can either go upgrade to 4K, which I don’t care about or upgrade to 240hz or more, but I can’t justify getting a new monitor just for that as 165hz is already really smooth. Also you can’t simply run every game at 240+ fps.
I guess I’ll upgrade once there’s something like a 4K 240hz OLED monitor for a reasonable price, but I don’t think that’s anytime soon.
Do you know if 4k gameplay ruins competitive fps gameplay?
@@tibodoz383 Yes 4k ruins competitive fps gameplay 100% this is why. Event rules for fps comp & for e-sports are 1080p for a reason less input lag & more fps the better for latency. That is why you will never see a pro player playing on 4k ever. For those reasons.
I love the backrgound you have set on the zowie
Supposedly the 4090 can hit over 500 FPS consistently in overwatch 2 so I'll be interested in seeing that tested with the new ASUS 500hz monitor
6900xt hits 600 using 60 percent gpu usage at 1080p
I love your videos great info and testing
I have the XL2546K
Very good for competitive games
But I am thinking of 1440p for my next upgrade
1440p is nice
Zowie biding their time on getting their hands on a solid 1440p OLED panel. One can at least hope.
Only thing I would consider upgrading from my current XL2546k.
Would be awesome if you had a site that listed your recommendations for different monitors, mice, etc. and what settings to run them at (if applicable). Great video as always!
I wanted to be one of the first to say, you are one of the best reviewer for gamers. Because you are a gamer, for the gamers, and by the gamers.
I don’t think I’d upgrade from 240hz but cool to see
I realised this after watching other monitor reviews, but this guy is a one tap god in Valorant.
Hey @Optimum Tech, for some reason you didn't say anything about input lag. This is also very important. Yeah, its Zowie, but it would be nice to see a comparison between this monitor and the Asus 360hz monitor.
@@3ildcard what does Bruv mean?
I already liked and subscribed for that bro ❤❤
if you cant get 360+ fps in the games u play dont get it
yep its legit for people that will get 3080s and above and play almost exclusively esports titles
Still benefits at 200 fps. If you have currently like a 160Hz monitor.
@@erisium6988 I got the benq xl2546k, Dont think upgrading to this will make any difference
@@a38w I think he meant 360+ fps steady.
@@a38w ye ryzen 5600 and a 3060 (mid range build) can easily drive 360hz in competitive games
Lovely review # thats what im looking for!
What all these Tech channels fail to mention is that dyac makes micro stutter a lot more noticeable so for the best results you want to cap your frame rate to the average minimum to avoid it and get the smoothest image possible. That’s why I sold my xl2546. I couldn’t stand the micro stutters and I found that I had the best experience with dyac with my fps capped to 180 in apex. I would recommend the pg259qnr over this since it has native gsync, better viewing angles and colors and it’s on sale for only 300 my current time of posting.
thanks for pointing that out bec I am about to buy this one!
Apex feels stuttery no matter what settings you use. Even when you get near 300fps the game feels like shit.
Nobody's gonna cap their fps in games in CSGO/Valorant/OW lmao that's just dumb.
Got the AW2521H 360hz a year ago and ive always said there is definitely a noticeable difference🔥👌
holy shit!!!!! where have i been?! i've been waiting for this for years!!!! i'm buying right now
Still using my 15mth old Alienware 1080p 360hz ips screen and it is more than enough for me for my fps title playing. It’s great for general use, but for high fps, a noticeable step above my old 240hz Samsung screen and colour representation has been more than good enough for my uses. I’ve personally found monitor advancements have been more impressive than GPU advancements for my gaming experience as many cpu/gpus are capable of pushing these 360fps+ for many e-sports titles currently on the market. As stated many of these titles are currently pushing into the 500+Fps, even on the not so premium hardware.
I love it how 20+ years after the demise of CRTs and total domination of LCDs, manufacturers at some point were like "Ok we've finally figured it out: LCDs just need to be more like CRTs"
It kinda sucks that for people like myself, who prefer 1440p over 1080, we have to compromise when it comes to fast-paced shooters versus more story-driven games. Not to mention if you like to be productive or work with accurate colours _and_ game at high refresh rates and low latency .. you're stuck getting two different monitors for the two different sides of your computer usage. Be nice to have a single panel that actually _can_ do both with as _few_ compromises as possible - the dream obviously being _zero_ compromises at all. I wish more focus in the monitor industry was aimed at 1440p in general, but especially in regards to faster-paced action, really at this point in time _nobody_ should still be using 1080p monitors - we should have already moved on to 1440p being the bottom of the product line, so the next focus can be 4k improvements. Just a personal opinion, but I feel like the continued attention that 1080p is getting is just holding back the entire monitor industry - not to mention the GPU industry too since they don't have to put so much effort into producing actually decent 1440p-aimed GPUs and instead can get away with performance for 1080p gaming and then the other half of their product line can entirely be about 4k rendering and compute performance. Feels like 1440p exists in this weird void between the two.
It can be done - HP Omen X 27 - 240Hz 1440p 5.5ms response time without overshoot. Dci-p3 and srgb coverage better than this Zowie. But it's TN panel which means contrast is pretty bad. It's shame that most companies left TN while they are still the fastest LCD screen. But I guess OLEDs will be better in every way so future is bright.
It's because pro play still uses 1080p for the fastest performance. As long as professionals still stick to 1080p nothing is gonna change.
Are you not aware of the PG27AQN? 27" 1440p 360hz IPS w/ULMB2 (better than DyAc+)? I'd wait for the OLED version of that exact panel though next year, you'll get the best of all worlds especially increased pixel response time and GTG.
Please keep making these videos😊
Even if this thing would do a 1000hz, a 1080p screen is inherently flawed due to the low pixel density around the crosshair. Enemy heads in the distance just aren't sharp. You need that sharpness for precision. Especially in the distance.
I'm not sure that's relevant because very good players aim intuitively at the head without actually looking once they spot a body. It's all muscle memory.
This is only a problem if you play BR games with gigantic maps. For tactical FPS games like Val, CS, and R6 this is a non issue. Hell most pro CS players still play 1280x960 and 1024x768. They dont give a shit about sharpness lmao. Its similar for R6 and it would be the same for Valorant if Riot didn't lock the aspect ratio.
that is simply not true
This or a 240hz oled 0.03 Response time?
I first came to your channel for the Asus PG259QN, and I think I'm gonna be getting this one in the future because of you lol. ULMB/DyaC simply makes everything better from my experience.
Quite well tuning they did for it. I take it they're working on those 500Hz and there-about monitor. Though I can't wait to see 1000Hz OLED one day. Not sure how far can LCD be pushed, but even still it's being pushed quite far already. It's still LCD in the end so it's slow. For 1000Hz for sure OLED definitely. Good we're seeing OLED monitors hitting so, in time.
wrong link for the XL2546K in the description
$600 for 1080p in 2022 is crazy
08:50 under the XL2566K it says DyAc+ off... are those pictures really without DyAc?
I wonder, would an OLED panel be able to perform better than the Zowie, if there was a 360hz monitor out there? Because LG is going to make OLED monitor displays under 30 inches and I'm kinda hyped for the monitors that are going to come out of that.
I still can't justify a 360hz panel when the xg2431 is such a good panel, but that 500hz that's been announced has me hyped.
Best for ridiculously fast gaming. Definitely worth considering if you can afford it.