Hey everyone! I ended up splitting this video in two parts or it would have been an hour long. In the next part, I'll cover careers, CAS, and build/buy mode in the base games. I also want to clarify that this is a broad overview and I wasn't able to cover every detail in a 30 minute video. However, I plan to make more in-depth comparisons covering a single aspect of the game in the future. If I didn't cover something here, I will get to it! Thank you for watching!
I’ve actually been building my own save In Sims 4, and I’ve been cheating relationships to make them match the stories in the description. That and experimenting with some mods to try and add some more to the personality of the sims. It’s a bit of a shame that I find myself doing it, but at least I’m putting my own stamp on it I guess. Once I’m happy, I’m probably just going to reload that save as my default instead of a fresh save, and enjoy seeing some chaos hopefully unfold a little bit more sims 2 style. Here’s hoping it works. There was some real potential for good storytelling if they’d developed the in game sims and the relationship mechanics some more.
I'm thinking of getting sims 2. What is the best computer/ lap top to run it? I'm new to computer gaming being a console gamer for my whole life lol I've played a few times on a computer. I'm wanting to get back to what sims used to be.
Fun Fact: The Sims 3 has a hidden memory system. I'm not referring to the scrapbook feature introduced in The Sims 3 Generations. There's a class in the game's code called "Life Event Manager" that registers the date and time of every event in our Sims' lives (as well as the actor and target of said event). Then that data is saved in our Sim's information (this is called Sim's description in the code of the game). The game knows the exact date our Sims started working at a particular job and they use that information for the work anniversary pop-up; it knows our Sims' wedding anniversary and it uses it for the anniversary moodlet. The game also takes note every single time the relationship status towards someone changes and it uses it in various ways. Our Sims remember books they read, recipes they cooked, etc. I wish we could visualize this memory system in the game though.
It also has hidden skills and traits that connect with the lore. One vampire in Bridgeport has a trait that makes him imune to fire for example. It’s fantastic!
Sims 4 has a hidden delete everything button in the code that is programmed to press itself every 2 seconds so it doesn’t register anything about a specific sim so you can’t enjoy the gameplay. In a specifc class, called “Fuck you”, there is a method, “Ignore”, that is further implemented in a derivated class called “Fuck you Simmers we do what we want take this star wars pack”. That method has the role of ignoring every wish and suggestion expressed by the community. Isn’t that amazing?
lithiumkid In Beau Merrick’s case is a trait not really a skill. He has the Pyromaniac hidden trait. His looks are supposed to resemble a devilish nature along with his evil trait and are inspired in the Deacon Frost character from Marvel. His household is filled with girls that you can play with to fulfil his serial romantic aspiration. You can drink all their blood and then create a fire and you will notice that if his love interest don’t leave he will be the only one not dying surrounded by flames since he can create fire himself and combat it. You can do really messed up gameplays with this kind of depth like moving in 4 love interests at once to romance, drink from and burn and replace with new sims to fulfil his lifetime aspiration. Some ghosts when brough back in Bridgeport have premade relationships that reveal the friction between the vampire clans like the ghost buried in the Plasma lounge. The Sims 3 is a league of their own in terms of lore: it goes beyond just families and invades the actual world and setting.
I am sadden to say this but Build mode: Sim 4 FTW! Despite the lake of a color wheel, it is by far the easiest to build with. The optimization of it has made me clock a ton of hour building all sorts of stuff far faster than I could in the other games. The whole system is such a blast to use that I sometimes wonder why they didn't just make a MySims styled building game instead of mainline sims title. By the MySims style gameplay I am referring to making houses and stuff for the community not the questing aspect, so essentially I'm pitching a spin off of a spin off. Of course it would have had the classic MySims style and be for a young audience but I don't mind with a building system that nice. Bonus Actually a children's game franchise: MySims Is not meant to be a children's game franchise: The Sims (mainline series)
@André Alcântara Agree,also miss the ability to create natural ponds, and I need to be able to change ceilings instead of having them always be white. I mean it misses some original Sims build features even.
Another thing about the sims 4 that just makes me so mad is the traits. When I got get famous I wanted to make a rich celebrity sim and the traits I gave her was self absorbed, mean and materialistic. Somehow those traits didn’t mean anything at all during the gameplay. My sims celebrity reputation was good which didn’t make sense considering her traits. The only thing the traits did was have a moodlet show up every once in a while. Which doesn’t mean anything since the emotion system in the game is completely broken. Like if your gonna make traits and an a emotion system have them mean something.
I'm always blown away (and not in a good way) by how easy it is to play a mean / evil / jealous / hothead / unflirty sim who just gets along with everyone and has basically no problems socially, even down to how easy it is to make an unflirty sim fall in love and become flirty. Recently I had a mean sim get a whim to volunteer with his family, but afterwards got upset about it. I'm sorry, how does that make any sense? Why the heck did he want to do a thing that he knew would upset him? I could understand if it came from another trait like Family Oriented or Outgoing, but no, it came from "being near a family member". Unless "Dog Lover" makes a sim more charitable (or "Paranoid", don't see how that would work), he has nothing in his traits which would make this whim make sense. I really do miss the personality traits, wants and fears of Sims 2 and the traits of Sims 3. Compare the insane (or erratic) trait from Sims 3 and Sims 4 for a great example of how lackluster traits are in 4. In 3, erratic sims would actively freak out other sims without even trying, whereas in 4 your erratic sim can talk to themselves in their underwear in the middle of a city festival and no one bats an eyelash at it. Absolutely no meaning or immersion to the traits now, it's sad to see.
I sometimes feel they want to keep out anything that's "frustrating" or "limiting" but having your Sims being able to do everything makes them all the same.
@@MrMarinus18 I know this is old but I saw your comment and I have to agree. I started playing Sims 4 first because I never could afford the setup or the games in the past. I recently tried Sims 3 and finally it clicked what everyone was saying about the Sims in 4 being like robots that had no autonomy as far as their thoughts or reactions to things. Its so easy to develop relationships in Sims 4 in any direction compared to Sims 3. What's the point in that, if it's all the same pretty much and you have to make up stuff in your head to make a narrative for your family as you go to make it an enjoyable experience . All the Sims in 4 to me feel like the same person.
I honestly love the sims 3, even if it runs horribly it is by far the most fun to play, and it is the only game in the franchise that i feel you can find new secrets and details almost daily.
Alice Lindsay You just need a decent computer: with the combined price of all crappy Sims 4 dlc you can get one and have money to spare for a solid game in the Sims 3 or Sims 2 (this one is even free now). I literally play with an old gaming laptop and it still runs smoothly. It only has 8GB of RAM and an i7 processor. Nothing special. Even freaking Island Paradise that everyone complains runs fine.
@@Carolina-rd3gh Base game sure, a decent computer is enough to handle it, but with all expansion packs you either need a powerful computer or mods, still a great game tho, don't get me wrong.
I'll forever remember the disappointment of starting my first sims 4 game, going to willow creek and just being like "....wait.. that's it?" And honestly that's what sims 4 felt like since.
Omg yeah exactly! And when i started to get bored and sad that i cant enjoy sims anymore, that i probably grew up from that state, i had a realisation that it was only bcs ts4 sucks, that was worth it
The first time I saw the S4 I thought I had bought the wrong game, like a copy from another company, but nop, that's really what they wanted to give us
I had that exact feeling. For a bit, it was alright. Then I just realized how empty it was. I felt so disappointed and felt like I paid for just some game that isn’t even in the sims franchise barely.
The bad thing about all this is that we can't say anything to the Sim Gurus, about the sims 4 because they have excuses for everything, like when they said controlling pets was not realistic , but of course star wars is. instead of accepting criticism they find a way to gaslight us, for me the sims 4 is dead . It is pretty but not what I paid for. I want Will Wright Back , I want Maxis Back!... Btw I love your videos ! :D
You can't even see the skills you taught your pets which is in fact unrealistic. They could have at least done a cheat to do all that stuff for those who want to do that
Controlling your pets is not realistic, but they somehow managed it in Sims 3. That was one of the nicer things for me in that I had at least a little control over my pets. My sim could be at work and I would get her cat to hunt.
@agh yeah they were pretty much created in the cas engine and just plopped down. Personally whenever I play them I normally edit them to look like closely to their sims 2 counterparts and then delete Katrina lol 😆
Pleasant Sims The relationships in the Sims 4 suck. I really struggle to make sims dislike each other. If I make them enemies it wears out after a few days for some reason. Do you know any mod to fix this? :/
@@SolisIlanga The multitasking bothers me in some ways. Like if you cue up a bunch of actions the game isn't smart enough to change the order. So your sim will sit there in silence eating b/c they have to pee next instead of moving onto the talk cue that they could've done while eating. If that makes sense.
Another thing I miss about TS2 are the little details in the animations. Like how they open the car doors to get in them, opening cabinets and drawers when they cook, remove an actual slice of pizza from the box and the pie will have that slice missing from when they removed it, couch cushions sink down when they sit, etc. And their reactions to their family members, like the little kids would greet their parents when they come home from work or cry when their parents argue, when elder sims hug their adult children they wave them over like to say “get over here and give me a hug”. I miss those things a lot!
They were not fully gone in the Sims 3- that game reused quite a few animations from the Sims 2. I can't say about the Sims 4 though- never played it and never will
Some of the kid interactions (esp. the report card one) would not work in the Sims 3, where kids can return home and be the only ones there while everyone else is at work. In the Sims 2, the kid would be taken by the Social Worker if this situation happened. I guess that is a reflection of the times: the Sims 3 is a chronological prequel to the Sims 2, taking place in a time when things were safer, evident by how kids had a longer curfew in the Sims 3 (10 PM vs 6 PM)
Playing Sims 2 yeaterday and My Sim had a baby and I sent mom to bed as dad came home. Dad picked up the newborn and I did the cuddle and play interactions. I had forgotten how sweet Sims 2 sims were with babies. Yeah, you have to be careful of them not ending up on the floor, but the Sims 2 babies (newborns) are my favorite execution of the newborn baby stage 100%.
Sometimes 4s multitasking can be annoying though because you'll be eating a meal with your date at a restaurant for example, and some random sim will come and butt into your conservation while you're trying to flirt with your date, and then everyone gets uncomfortable
I know what you mean, but I consider that more a flaw with NPC behavior than multitasking itself. More poor programming on EA's part. I use a mod to stop randoms from interrupting and it helps with that.
I kept having issues where a sim would try to read a book and eat dinner at the same time. They'd end up sitting down with the food and the book and then they'd get up again and put the book away and eat lol
@@imaginefun13 I know!!! Haha! This is what I don't like about it, everything takes too long. Sims take their plate of food, sit down, do whatever silly animation, take a bite, get up to talk to someone, sit down somewhere else, take a bite, silly animation, get up to do whatever, get a call from their boss, forget about what they were doing and are also missing work, lol. But yes, this can be fixed, so I still want multi-tasking.
Lol one time my married sims went on a date and then some random guy started flirting with my sims spouse, which caused their relationship to plummet. Ended up “taking care” of him.
The Sims 4 is really pushing a “YOU make the story” thing. That’s why they would say there’s basically no built-in lore, and they can wave away concerns about boring/personality-less Sims as you not being creative enough. The whole Sims Spark’d was framed around the idea of Sims players being storytellers. The problem is that Sims has always had lore-based AND completely original story possibilities. You could easily ignore lore-based Sims in previous games, if you wanted, but you also were given many interesting places to start in the lore, if that’s what you preferred. In the Sims 3 and especially the Sims 2, you can make whatever story you want and are given the options to make it happen as you want it. Then, in the Sims 4, they tell us to “make our own stories,” but then never give us the tools that would make that really happen like personality traits that matter, neighborhood customization, a memory system in Sims, wants and fears, story progression/meaningful activities for all ages, and more.
I don’t really like making my own stories for the reason that it’s too demanding. You have to set up every last little detail. Well, I do like making stories but I don’t like setting them up in the Sims, I guess, the setting up thing is sometimes annoying. I normally just play the game or leave Sims on autonomy.
Same it gets boring in sims 4 making my sims fight and have a nasty breakup. I have to control both parties and drag out the drama myself because they will forget soon they are mad. Just feels like I want my sims to act on their own. Me doing everything feels like a doll house and that makes it so boring.
When the sims 4 was just released, it seemed to be boring and empty. Now we have a lot of packs, but it's still boring. Sims lack personality. And why we have aspirations instead of lifelong wishes? You can literally fulfill all aspirations for one sim.
I actually liked that in the beginning. Shorter lasting aspirations felt more realistic, like it was room for the sims to change and grow, and not to be bound by ONE major life goal, which is unrealistic. But I also feel like it’s very poorly executed, aspirations are basically tutorials, and they dom’t affect their personalities, wants and fears etc. So I think it had potential to create another layer of depth, but of course they failed spectacularly in the execution.
I prefer the aspirations. But to be honest, I'd kind of prefer a return to the way things were in the Sims 2 base game, where we just got rid of lifetime wishes altogether, and just had aspiration themes instead, although possibly numerous ones in multiple categories (for example, different money/career based aspirations, like getting a lot of money and career advancement, buying expensive stuff, or even a slacker one which would reward you for vacationing and taking time off. And for friendship you could have some based on having a ton of acquaintances, a smaller set of really close friends, or even a long distance option that would reward hermits).
@@corelli_cat1453 Ye, having several aspirations is more realistic. But fulfilling them really doesn't impact your sim's life. I like that in the sims 3 you are given the list of goals somehow associated with sim's traits. Or in the sims 2 sim reacts differently, if some actions match the traits or not.
Corelli_Cat they should have life wishes for every age group if you know what I mean. So they have multiple life goals that you can do but it’s still not as repetitive as the aspirations currently are. Also they should definitely include more life goals for kids and teens as there are none (especially with teens. They don’t have any life goal things just for their age group. They are basically watered down young adults)
For me, The Sims 3 is the most immersive game of the franchise and my favourite: best personalities, worlds and gameplay and I enjoyed the storylines way more because there were way more families with loads of relationships with each other.
I fell that its because there is a story progression that's way better than in Sims 4 and in if you wanted everybody to age in the world you constantly needed to go to families and play with them. Also Sims 3 doesn't have loading screenes.
@Rytis Cyber That might be your computer thing. I heard that it glitches because it wasn't made for "good computers" or something. Mine works amazing and very little lag.
The basegame is probably the best way to compare these games. After all they are the foundations. Also many people forget what is basegame and what is DLC.
I agree! And there is still a LOT to compare just with the base game. It will take two videos at least and I still don't feel like I'll get to everything.
That One Guy Hotdoggerson how would it be unfair to 3? Also not to mention sims 4 already has 9 expansions meaning it has one more then sims 2 which only has 8 expansions.
Imo it's like this: Sims 1: The classic Sims 2: For story players Sims 3: For explorers Sims 4: For builders / CAS Sims medieval: For roleplayers Change my mind?
"Change my mind" Well, I'm a builder and I think The Sims 4 sucks! Yes it has some cool features but overall I just think its easier but not the best! The Sims 3 build mode has so many details and the color wheel is just a game changing for me! And TS4 worlds suck! I feel creatively restricted by the amount of fake surroundings. I have to build a house that fits the set dressing otherwise I will be triggered! It sucks!
@@renatopereira810 Right! And the patterns / materials. TS3 is much more customizable indeed. Though, imagine how cool it would be to have TS3's build mode but with the spandrels, pillars and friezes from 4 + the resize option. Let's just hope paralives throws everything cool together to make something awesome!
As a builder I like Sims 4 the best, but I really really miss the color wheel. A lot of the swatches on the furniture in TS4 are so weird; a color mix that confuses me so much. At least put in a simple white/black version of everything. 😅😅
The thing is that you can improve Sims 2 and Sims 3 (like the graphics or looks of your Sims) with mods and their core of gameplay and customization is still there. You can't get that much with mods for Sims 4 because the whole system of it is lacking in depth and no mods can help with that in my opinion.
@@blackroyalness9780 I haven't played sims 2 before, but you should definitely get sims 3! It's such a good game, and even the 2 expansion pack bundles are really cheap now. In fact, you should buy it through Steam because the expansions and stuff frequently go on sale for like $9 each. It has a lot of performance issues, but the modding community has worked really hard on fixing those. It will play wonderfully unless you're a monster like me and insist on having all of your content in-game at once, lol.
I honestly really like rabbitholes in sims 3. First of all, imagine the performance issues we would have if they made open stores, restaurants, etc. aswell. It would be horrible. But the biggest reason why i actually like rabbitholes is the "stress" you might have when playing all your sims in an open world at once. Ambitions gave us interactive "no-rabbithole" jobs and i rarely play that pack because its just "too much" for me when i have 4 other sims that do other stuff in the world at the same time. It maybe works in small households when the other sims are at work/school so you only control your one sims ambitions-job. But i like big families and i like the fact they can be all around the town, everyone doing something else. Rabbitholes support me so i dont have too much to do at once. I like it when my sims go on a date to a restaurant and i will just play my other sims during that. The small "options" you get in most rabbitholes (like working hard or be lazy instead at work/school) are enough for me. For Sims 5 i hope they give us the option to either play the job/date/whatever interactively ourselves OR let the sims go to that place alone as a rabbithole. Similar to Sims 3 Ambitions Doctors where you occasionally have interactive jobs (that you can ignore) or in sims 4 where you can send a pregnant sim to the hospital alone or go with them.
I am actually ok with giving up open world and not having rabbit holes. Tho I like TS3 more than TS4, TS2 had the right balance for me. I was ok with a drive off screen and a fade out. Then fade into the lot I was visiting and having things to do. They really only needed to fix the community lot time travel issue so you could swap between family members in different locations and so time actually passed and you didn’t return home the same time you left. The ONLY minor changes I would make. I also wish there were sections of open neighborhood where you could freely walk to you neighbors, but I don’t need the whole map open all at once. Just little sections you could freely walk around without a loading screen.
I grew up playing the Sims 2 and 3. I love both games so much and I will always love them. The Sims 4, on the other hand, I pretend that game doesn't exist.
I loved the Sims 2, and after installing everything again I realised it wasn't nostalgia - the game is genuinely that good. But I think whether you prefer Sims 2 or 3 mostly has to do with personal playing styles and preferences. I never really got into Sims 3 but I can easily admit it's a well-made game that improves certain aspects of Sims 2 in a way a sequel game naturally would, while also adding its own spin so it's not just more of the same. ...And then there's Sims 4, doing neither of those things.
It's really interesting that many things from before 2012 aren't nostalgia and actually are better in many regards. At least when it comes to games. I show my nephew games from my childhood and he gets impressed and even plays them on his own. The old industry used to be filled with many passionate developers doing the most they couldwith what they had, trying to make a new or unique experience. Nowdays its all about meeting industry standards. An over focus on graphics and performance rather than gameplay and story experience. Most of the Sims 4 expansions should have and probably could have been in the base game but were left out as a planned expansion rather than "wow our game came out great, lets add to it."
Being an avid sims 3 player. I was so hyped for sims 4. I remember watching all the trailers, analysis & speculation videos. Then I saw a gameplay stream of the sims 4 and the first thing I saw was a baby pop out of the basinet and turn into a child(toddlers werent in the game at launch). Needless to say im so glad I didnt spend a dime on the game. Sims 3 is still my favorite.
I also still play the Sims 3! But I do miss the expansion packs and accessoires packs from the Sims 2. My favourite where appartement life, mansion&garden stuff and glamour stuff. (I never had pets of seasons but I had all the other packs)
@@purpleraikou yes of course! If TS4 was your first experience of Sims, I'd definitely recommend playing previous games! You can get it on origin, or it may be cheaper on G2A
Honestly for me I wouldn't care if they just drove outta town... Honestly it would be really useful for some towns so you wouldn't need to shoehorn in the rabbitholes... I really feel like the stadium doesn't fit into Sunset Valley and there's a reason the Military Base is in the City Hall in Bridgeport. But I think they made a bad call with not making Bookstores, Supermarkets and Spas "Venues"... So basically I guess I don't see the point in rabbitholes haha 😅 I feel like TS4 made the right call in binning them although I do like some like the mausoleum and the Science Lab in Sunset Valley adds to the Lore...
I love rabbit holes too! They’re a really nice way for me to deal with large families. I can have a teen at the diner with his friends, another teen at the movies with her friends, dad taking the last two kids to tour the science lab, mom finally getting to sit down and write her book and I get a little break! I will say though I wish that rabbit holes had more of an impact. It’d be great if sims could have made new friends, met new people, or even developed some skills while grocery shopping, touring various rabbit holes and watching movies. But I know I’m in the minority 😂😂😂
I personally prefer the Sims 3 above all, even though I agree that the Sims 2 had the best story-telling, memories, and micro-interactions. I just hated the loading screens so much, however, that I give Sims 3 the top spot for not making me go through a loading screen just to go to the store. I've also never had any lagging problems with the Sims 3, so it was actually the game that ran the best for me personally. Also, is it only me who thinks that the Sims 3 sims are not actually ugly? I've seen what I thought were the most beautiful sims I've ever seen come from the Sims 3, but hey, different strokes for different folks, I guess. :) All that said, this was a really good video going over the good and bad aspects of the Sims games (although I haven't played the Sims 4 yet, and I'm starting to think I may never play it).
The sims 3 was the sims at its finest. So much gameplay, so much possibilities, awesome graphics, truly groundbreaking with tons of new content that had never been brought to the sims. The sims 4 tried to imitate it but did it terribly.
I dont know why so much People Tell that sims 3 looks like potatoes, when You download some nice makeup / hair / clothes the sim looks so nice and realstic! I also like body of sims 3 compared to sims 4! In sims 4 they look like a plastic dolls and unrealistic body, i think Maybe sims 3 can be uglier, because reality looks like it! In sims 3 sims arent perfect they have flaws like in real life!
While I agree the sims 2 basegame was the best, I feel like when you add the expansions, Sims 3 really shines and you can act out basically any story you really want if you can look past the lags and the kind of stuck worlds. Also, i've never had an issue with how sims 3 looks
@@SolisIlanga Sims 3 look fine except for their eyes. An eye replacement is all they need to look decent, a skin replacement is also good. I'm fine with Maxis' clothes and hairs.
The Sims 3 is the strongest game. Ambitious, gutsy, expansive and super immersive. Also, I never had performance issues and always played on average specs computers.
The problem with Sims 3 is that the expansions didn't exactly work well with each other. And there were extreme performance issues, and I'm not talking about lag. You would go to venues and they would be empty, or it would have the exact same family in them all the time. This is something that the Sims 4 kind of does well, because certain lot types tend to attract certain ages (although later expansions have kind of changed this partially). For example, in the base game the nightclubs would primarily attract young adults, bars tended to get adults, parks have a stronger appeal to teenagers, etc. That was one of the things the game got right. And I haven't felt like there was a ton of conflict between different packs.
My first Sims game was the Sims 3 and I still play this until today. The Gameplay is just so much fun for me. I tried sims 2 and sims 4 but I miss the open world because I like to control multiple sims at the same time. So my favorite has to be The Sims 3.
Probably this is an unpopular opinion but I don’t like the Sims 4 multitasking system at all, I kind of prefer my sims focusing on doing one task at time and then move to the other one, and my case the sims 4 is that I used to get desperate because my sims couldn’t have dinner without sitting in a lot o different chairs, go watching tv and honestly I don’t enjoy that, That’s only my opinion and it’s probably that way because I get use to the sims 3 system. PD: I’ve been so obsessed with your channel lately, I really admire the love that you have for the sims 2 and that actually make me wanting to play it again, and that’s what I have done the last weeks, thank you for all :) Love from Mexico
I agree! I hate when a sim takes 5 sim hours to eat a sandwich because he insists doing something else like watching tv, listen to music or talk with other sims. I wish they could just do like in The Sims 2 for consoles and just make some features multitasking and others not!
this. i get so frustrated with my sims wanting to do everything at once when i only want them to eat their sandwich and hurry to work... i also don't like how unnatural the multitasking system is, especially when it's conversing with other sims-- tho that might sound weird. i prefer ts2 style where they'll converse with sims while eating as long as they're in a certain radius from them. sorta wish it was like that for radios and tvs too, and then shorten the amount of time they spend eating while multitasking. i don't know how many times i've gotten mad because they'd take forever to prepare a meal, and then forever to eat because they wanted to talk to someone and watch tv... and just not eat... then they have to go to work... like bruh. did no one test this?
SweatdropStealer I knoow, it is so stressful and is much worse if you are used to the sims 2 or 3 system. I think it’s a shame because I remember how ea back in the day sold multitasking as a super revolutionary feature to the sims but at the end I think is one of the many reasons I ratter play sims 2 or 3 instead of sims 4. A game is for entertaining and have fun while playing it, not to be so freaking stressed because your sim takes 7 hours to eat his freaking sandwich.
The sims 3 world with the most lore is probably Twinbrook, there's like a thousand mysteries there. Other worlds have their things like Isla Paradiso with its cheating scandals and little mermaid spoofs but Twinbrook is just unmatched.
I like Sunset Valley (Bunch, Crumplebottom, Langerak and Wolff are my favourite families) and Twinbrook the best in terms of lore. Bridgeport is decent; but I find it less diverse in terms of personalities and occupations. Too little sims in some careers and like 5 female journalists that have somewhat the same vibe in terms of personality. Isla Paradiso has weaker storylines but it’s one of the most stunning worlds and an incredible and criminally underrated pack simply because people have crappy computers and are butt hurt that fantastic gameplay demands a decent laptop.
André Alcântara I don’t have any problems with Island Paradise actually so I never experienced those difficulties. The problem with performance has more to do with your computer than the actual game. I think a Windows update made modern computers unable to recognise the graphics card for certain games. This is a Windows issue.
While it's true there are some potential issues with running TS3 on a modern build (fixable ones), the game is definitely a bit of a mess to be fair. In Isla Paradiso there are a lot of routing problems, bugged collectables, a corrupted household apparently (Scott family) and so on. I remember years ago when the sims team had some serious lag during the livestream to promote the expansion (with SimGuru Graham). Very disruptive and I think they only had BG+Island Paradise installed. This is why NRaas performance mods and world fixes exist.
A lot of the worlds from the S3 store have more pieces of lore connected to S2. One of the worlds (I think Midnight Hollow), they have Olive Spector with toddler Nervous Subject, Roaring Heights having the Capps as well as tons of other families and distant relatives from other families thrown in to other worlds.
As a person who started playing The Sims at 2003, The Sims 2 was a big leap forward, the graphics at the time (2004) were top notch and by looking how they’re rendered on a modern day computer like yours just tells the story: the game is a masterpiece, and unbelievably relevant even today 16 years later. I was a devoted player of the franchise, I purchased every expansion and stuff pack and I genuinely enjoyed my time playing it. That was until The Sims 4 came, I was surprised by myself but my excitement for the game sharply dropped after two months. The game was very dull and boring, and never felt more worthy after The Sims 2 and 3 had such extensive gameplays. Six years later and The Sims 4 is still in production, feels out of touch, lacking and still seems like a big disappointment. The fact that they ended production for The Sims 2 after four years, but The Sims 4 with all the negativities is still being developed after six years (to no avail imo) feels super unjustified. I would recommend EA to carry on for The Sims 5 and to listen for the devoted players that play for two decades and have an idea what worked in the past that will obviously work now, but greed has taken over and it’d be better for them to keep out of another sequel that might make things worse. The Sims 2 is a diamond and The Sims 3 is also great imo, at least we earned them.
I'm sorry? The Sims 4 has lore? Pretty sure the "lore" in this game is as surface level and empty as Daniel and Mary-Sue's marriage. Loved this video! It's a fascinating concept and you've executed it wonderfully! Looking forward to part 2!
@@spicychicken9163 Windenberg is my favorite world in The Sims 4 and I hope to cover it in another video at some point when I get to the expansions. I agree with you!
Can we talk for a while how the title "Sim Guru" is absolutely self-absorbed? It feels like they want to boost their ego or something 🤔 P.S. The Sims 2 rules!
What I love about sims 2 that it wasnt what you see what you get. I've played Pleasantview like 10 times and I never realised Brandi user to be in culinary or that Mary sue rejected Daniel's First Kiss which gives you context for a story. Also it made it so realistic that they all had parents and grandparents
I'm not a big fan of rotational play. We've been doing that since Sims 1. After a while, I need my sims to sims surroundings to change. Micro-manging gets boring to me after a while. It's a major reason why I love Sims 3. I have more time to flesh out my own storyline without having to stop. I just got back into Sims 2 after kind of quitting Sims 4. Sims 2 makes up for it with details and lore drama, but I end up missing the things I had in Sims 3. The open-world, rabbit-holes, transportation variety, and overall experience. I prefer rabbit-holes cause it minimizes gameplay noise TS2 has. I went to a University Library lot to do a term paper and got distracted by a witch, a weirdo magician, the secret society, and the mascot. I dunno about y'all but... I just want my sim to do their paper without getting robbed, turned into a witch, and kidnapped.
The Sims 3 allows you to play rotational style pretty well unlike what she says if you use settings. I usually play in that micromanaging approach for the first 25 weeks of gameplay to set up my families (I have a save file for each world to cut that time frame short) and then I activate story progression and ageing and let them do their thing. I then keep jumping from family to family every few weeks but without being maniac and controlling everything. I play in every style pretty much. I love that the Sims 3 allows me to so. Also, I couldn’t agree more with what you said in the last paragraph. You’re so right!
Ok so unpopular opinion I don't think Sims 3 sims are ugly, like at all, not even a little bit. Everyone always talks about how ugly they are and I just sit there like 👁👄👁 thinking they look really pretty. Maybe I'm just used to them idk.
Also. Sims in The Sims 3 have Actual Eyelashes, Unlike The Sims 4, but when I look at the Sims in The SIms Medieval i am like "Oooh. THAT is Nicely Detailed"
in my opinion sims from sims 2 looked best, like actual people. Nowadays you can just use some subtle really nice skin and eyes replacement and they look gorgeus. Also, clothes converted from sims 4 look great, much better than when sims from sims 4 wear them
I loved TS3 sims but I did a personal comparison between 3 and 4 and 4 wins in my opinion. Body styles are more customizable and more palpable. But they still retain their cartoonish feel so as to not feel TOO life-like. Both are still great tho. Considering 3 is from 2009. It was good for the time :)
I love this comparison! I used to play The Sims 2 and The Sims 3, and I recently went back to playing The Sims 3 and it has so much more rich gameplay than The Sims 4. More happened when I played The Sims 3 in one sitting than in The Sims 4 over several weeks of "play". Everything that happens in my Sims 4 game, I have to MAKE happen, whereas in The Sims 3, a lot more things naturally happen, and that's so exciting to go back to. ^_^
I hate how sims 4 tries to pretend they are woke but whitewashed the Calientes, Don and Bella and Cassandra. I read that they changed Nighat's name because it wouldnt upload to the gallery because of their censors but like...just use another middle eastern name.
this upsets me so much!!! I feel like not enough ppl talk about how they white washed the characters, even if people are at least finally listening to the BIPOC about the lack of skin tones
THANK YOU. I rarely see people talking about this, for all the talk of representation they've actively _removed_ a lot of the representation that we already had. The Calientes are of course the biggest example of this, having had their entire family history and cultural background erased for some weird four-way relationship plot (which doesn't actually exist) between Don and their (fake) mother, but the Goths (particularly Cassandra) are also a blatant example of how little they _actually_ care about representation, Cassandra looks like a completely different sim, even with her "iconic" pigtails. I also see both the Calientes and Goths as examples of interesting premade familiars that became boring beyond measure in TS4. I mean, both families have prominent ties to aliens in their history which go completely unaddressed in 4 (with the Calientes even having alien ancestors, though of course newer players get no indication of that). The Goths just aren't the same without the famous Goth mansion graveyard, and as Marticore points out in this very comment section, where the heck is Michael Bachelor? Did they just not know how to integrate him into the plot this time around, or simply not care to? Don't even get me started on how little effort they put into bringing back Dirk Dreamer and Dustin Broke, or the Pleasant Twins, or how they seem utterly incapable of deciding on and sticking to a personality for Malcolm Landgraab. I mean, he literally went from Good in 3, to Evil in 4, where's the logic??? The lack of lore in TS4, given how much there was in previous games, is just sad.
Agree. Also I don't get how they get away with marketing the game as inclusive and that you'd be able to create yourself in the game. I wish they'd not do that, because many ofc can't. You'd pretty much have to be a certain age, height, body type (no hip dips a.s.o.), color (skin, eyes, hair), abled bodied, hair texture, no body hair, identify as female or male and not have much of a personality. Plus more. Also, want to add your partner? If you're not married you can't in CAS. Imo they should't pretend TS4 to be inclusive, because it's not true and might make some vulnerable ppl/kids feel bad about themselves.
@@waitwhat6906 Wall of text warning!! Talking about the landgraabs Nancy looks like she went from office worker to (and this is form reddit) "The real housewives of Oasis Springs" in both Personality and Appearance lol I will say this though My favorite story regarding the Landgraabs came from the sims 3 cause it is actually believable (Though I have to constantly change Nick Alto's lifetime wish from standard lol) I half way think the Goths could also be in on that rivalry from the political standpoint as well They founded the town The landgraabs are second ONLY to the goths in the towns hierarchy (that being said I could see the Altos slowly (as per their discription) buying influence (for example for Judy Bunch and Dustin langereak could easily be bought by Vita promising to support higher qualities of education in sunset valley and accusing the goths of not supporting it properly) (TL:DR The story regarding the landgraabs is more believable in the sims 3
Sims 3 is my favorite because of the open world and the weather according to me is so much more realistic than in sims 4. Love the snowflakes, rain and depth levels of snow fall. Love the frozen lakes you can scate on. Love the festivals. Nothing in sims 4 compares to this. Dont remember everything about sims 2, but do remember when you walk up to a car, open doors and get it. So much better than just magically appearing in car like sims 3. Sims 2 also had best looking fire in the fireplace. When u switch the lights off at night, the flames actually reflect and flicker in the room. No other sims edition had that in. Super realistic. Love your videos. Big fan that you're such a big sims fan
It’s honestly so sad that the lore was changed in the sims 4 because I can’t imagine HOW they could fix the lore in the sims 5 (if EA actually cares to fix it). When / if the sims 5 happens I will be really curious where they take the lore. Will they try to return back to the OG ts2 and ts3 lore? Or will they continue ts4 lore? I think the “alternate universe” excuse is just that, an excuse. I have a feeling EA just made that up when ppl complained abt the lack of and mistakes in the lore. It makes me so sad that the lore was just DROPPED after ts3. I want Will Wright to come back and drop a new simulation game so he can pick up where EA left off with our sims. Also EA needs some competition so they can stop giving us... Star Wars.
I agree completely, erin. I have no hope for a Sims 5. I imagine it will be more of the same. I wish there were more competition. I think that is the ONLY thing that could save the franchise because then they would HAVE to try or lose money.
@@PleasantSims what do you think about paralives? I kinda like the cartoony artstyle as long as its pleasing to look at. But i think its going to take a very long time to release. Theres also an even more cartoony one called little sim world, and im excited for that one too :)
@@ninarae3368 I'm very excited for Paralives. I am a Patron and I fully support and believe in the game. I like the art style as it is, but I think it will improve over time (as it already has from the original renders). I'm more interested in gameplay than graphics - to an extent. I have seen Little Sim World and the graphics just look a bit too cutesy for my taste, but I might still give it a chance.
@@PleasantSims I hear their trying to make it online like they were originally planning with sims 4 before launch. But that's also why sims 4 is so different then it's counterparts. Sounds like a perfect idea for micro transactions..😑
When sims 1 came out, I watched my grandson play and ended up getting it myself..I loved it! then sims 2 arrived and seemed so advanced and complicated but drew you in..fantastic. Sims 3 was beautiful but the actual sims were awful and the game got very buggy and laggy . Sims 4 seemed full of promise, beautiful sims but more like dolls to dress up and..... same old routines, not much depth and became boring! I was never bored in sims 2. in conclusion, loved sims 1, played for hours in sims 2, frustrated in sims 3 and bored in in sims 4...so that about sums up my experience, sorry this was so long. Love watching you play the games, keep doing what you're doing Cindy you do it well ♥♥♥
I had no idea that there was this much to these games I had only played the 4th sims and I thought they were all the same and as boring as sims 4 but now that you have explained all this I will definitely check them out I respect your passion and how much you put into this. Thank you for giving me a new mindset for these games 🤝
My question for TS4 is: Where's Michael freakin' Bachelor?! When it comes to relationships in this part, they're basically what they would be if you just created those families yourself. Like the Pancakes family - the description says that they have marriage problems, when their relationship is just the default straight from CAS. Same for the BFF family - if you make 3 Sims that are just roommates, they will have exactly those relationships. Whims who? I turned them off ages ago, totally useless XD And I can never really say that multitasking is an advantage, since most simulation glitches and canceling actions comes from that feature alone. I kind of have a love-hate relationship with this one. And unfortunately, TS3's in-game story progression stopped working completely after some patches, so now nothing happens in other families if you don't have the NRaas mod. Everyone will eventually die and be replaced with Sims that all have the same face. But the town is still very lively, with all the Sims hanging around, going to work etc.
Personally, my fav is The Sims 3 'cuz I like to focus on one family all the time than control every family at the town like I had to at The Sims 2. I know this option is able also in The Sims 4 but maybe I'm a bit sentimental. Yeah, for me building and create the sim at TS4 is the best compare to previous sims series if we talk about look but I like more character traits at TS3. I feel like my sim has much more personality and I have a lot of fun play them. A lot to talk about.
You can switch to another family at any time in the Sims 3. Save the game, press edit town, deselect your family and go back to active family mode and there you go, you have all families to choose again without losing what you have done.
I kinda hate multi tasking in ts4 when it comes to eating. They take LITERALLY HOURS because they're more focused on smiling or talking or doing basically NOTHING instead of just eating. Its so frustrating
Story progression in the sims 3 really fit my gameplay style, because sims around you would keep living and your sims could interact with families that were growing along side your own, so I definitely loved it!
Okay, I really feel like I'm the only person in the world who thinks Sims 4 is an ugly game xD idk, I don't like how bland and "clean" everything in it looks, including the world and the sims themselves. Also, I think the sims often have really weird proportions, like very wide hips with matchstick-thin legs. The only thing I didn't like about how the sims in Sims 3 looked was the notorious pancake face (i. e. every automatically generated sim had the same round face). Speaking of looks and general atmosphere, I think Sims 2 excelled here, too - because the game dared to be ugly. It never really tried to make people say "ohh, this is pretty" - instead, it rather focused on making people laugh. Extreme contortions in CAS, idle animations of farting, the way interactions were animated, nasty stink clouds and fly swarms, and so on ... it never tried to be a dollhouse, and it had the best sense of humour of all of the three games because of it. Sims 3 sims aside, the worlds itself were just beautiful and so realistic. I remember gasping in awe when I let my first sim travel to Egypt and zoomed into the neighborhood view. and the best part was that I could go just everywhere, even inside the tombs. and then we were given that weird comic style of sims 4. which is neither very funny, nor very realistic. it's made to run on weak systems and does that perfectly, but that's it.
I grew up with TS3, but played a lot of TS4 because my laptops handled it better, and saying I was bored of TS4 is an understatement. I sure enjoy my fast-loading, dynamic CAS when my old TS3 setup used to take ages, but if that's the only fun part of the game, then it's worthless. There's no use being able to easily create a shell if it remains empty due to lack of customization and depth! TS2 probably is the best game objectively, but since I lack the experience (and nostalgia) for it, I firmly remain in Team TS3. At least, having a legacy there and plopping my own Sims in the world was fun there. This video just shows exactly why TS2 and 3 are in another league compared to TS4. Looking forward to Part 2 so I can hear about my dear, departed color wheel. Too good for this empty TS4 world.
The Sims 2 is overhyped by EA game changers like Plumbella because it’s fundamentally similar to Sims 4 (closed world, no story progression outside your house) but way more entertaining and dramatic. The Sims 3 simply cannot compare to any of these because it surpasses their scope entirely and gives you a fuller, more amino, expansive and immersive gameplay that is unlike any of the others. I have played all 3 and have nostalgia for the Sims 2 and I have no doubt the Sims 3 is objectively the best game. There is no comparison. The Sims 3 is a beast with a solid base game and the most incredible and valuable DLC out of all of them.
@@Carolina-rd3gh Honestly it depends on personal playing style. I couldn't get into Sims 3 because I genuinely don't like the story progression and open world. Sims 2 fits me much better, so it's my favourite and I'm still playing it to this day, but I have no problem acknowledging that Sims 3 is a well-made game as well and I will occasionally play it for variety. Sims 4 just doesn't have the strengths of either.
Although I love the sims 3 I would have to give it to the sims 2. Like every single family from the sims 2 is iconic, also I loved the effects you action had. Oh you cheated on someone? Have fun picking up the garbage can every single morning or having your newspaper stolen. I also love that in the sims 2 relationships can be one sided. You can have a sims that is totally in love with someone who just sees them as a friend.
I love the sims 2,but i think my favorite of all is the sims 3,just because has almost all i need in base game and even in some dlc's. I love the big neighborhoods,the open world,i like the color wheel,the visual! And of course the traits in this game works better compared with the sims 4.
Mari Shussei It’s one of my favourites too! Criminally underrated in reviews! I like Ambitions, Late Night and Island Paradise. I’m not considering Generations or Seasons because they are must haves and shouldn’t be expansion packs.
My sims' queen has spoken! ❤️ I feel like you totally expressed my feelings about this series, and I actually really love to hear your opinions because I can see how much you truly love this game and what it means to you. I know that for many it may be just a game, but for me it's the best way to escape my suffocating reality. I've been playing since I was I child and it helped me develop who I am today, so seeing the state of the game nowadays just breaks my heart. I really started loving the lore and premades thanks to you and I really wish I could repricate your gaming style because it's the best in my opinion. Sadly this isn't possible in the Sims 4, even with several different mods, the core of the game is gone. Also I still think that they could have said that it took place some time before Bella's disappearance, so people could actually have come up with some teories, but instead they just threw in the stupid alternative universe idea (also showing how lazy that was). I'm just overall really disapponted as this is something that means the world to me.
I mean like I've only played the sims 3 and 4 but like sims 3 you had so much to do in the base game and even in like pets you got more than just two animals whilst in the sims 4 the base game has nothing and in pets you only get two animals, and you dont even get any smaller animals like rodents, turtles, birds, and other reptiles
I do love the sims 2 but I do feel that the sims’ personality was more interesting in the sims 3. The wants and fears in the sims 2 were great but they were always limited to whichever aspiration they had, and the personalities were a combination of points for 5 binary scales. I miss the memories and fears in the sims 3, but I personally prefer the personalities in the sims 3. Also the fact that clothes were so customisable. But I 100% agree that the sims 4 craps on the lore. What they did to Dina and Nina I can’t forgive, but they also completely change Malcom Landgraab (son of Nancy). In the sims 3 he was a Good sim who imo was the hope for his family as he seemed more interested in being a doctor and helping people. But in the sims 4 they made him an Evil sim. Which is utterly stupid
The Sims 3 have the best personality out of all the games. The Sims 4 personalities are bland are a slave to emotions. The Sims 2 is super limited because there are not really traits but rather a point based system that stops you from creating a sim because you run out of points and puts you automatically in a zodiac sign based on the personality you choose and you cannot change it. Also, the interests of the sims 2 are cool but are totally randomised and only customisable if you spend precious days of a life stage reading magazines to increase it. For personality the Sims 3 has absolutely no competition.
Carolina Rosa 100% agree. I’d have to resort to cheats on the sims 2 to customise the personality and interests the way I wanted. Even then they’re not as good as the sims 3. There weren’t specialised interactions like in the sims 3 (eg Insane sims could talk to themselves). They also weren’t as nuanced because they were based on the binaries. Eg in the sims 3 you can make someone that is Evil but also Friendly (so you could make a manipulative person),m
Honestly, I wish the Sims 4 actually did something with its lore and pre-made households like previous games. Like, the Landgraabs in Oasis Springs are said to have secrets which could tear them apart and cause drama! Plus, they disowned Johnny Zest, meaning things could be tense between them. But since the Sims 4 doesn't really have lasting consequences (sometimes sims will keep doing friendly interactions after yelling at each other) and Johnny Zest isn't even in the Landgraab family tree, nothing comes from that.
The Sims 3 is my favourite, personally - there aren't as many of those little lifelike details like those in the Sims 2, but the sims themselves have a lot of depth. I spent a while playing TS4 before going back to TS3 and was super surprised by how much the traits actually affect sims and even intersect. Brave sims will fight the burglar (remember burglars??) but not if they're also good. I have a sim who's a loner and brooding, and if she loses a friend her social meter absolutely bottoms out. Those things that don't just influence autonomy or give you a moodlet at random times really give the game a lot of depth and give each individual sim a unique playstyle. It's just such a shame that there's no fears, and no 64-bit client. I feel like a 64-bit client would eliminate most of the crashes. :/
The Sims 3 have the best personality out of all the games. The Sims 4 personalities are bland are a slave to emotions. The Sims 2 is super limited because there are not really traits but rather a point based system that stops you from creating a sim because you run out of points and puts you automatically in a zodiac sign based on the personality you choose and you cannot change it. Also, the interests of the sims 2 are cool but are totally randomised and only customisable if you spend precious days of a life stage reading magazines to increase it. For personality the Sims 3 has absolutely no competition.
@@Carolina-rd3gh I actually love that Sims 2 interests and hobbies are randomized, I think it's really fun to discover what their interests are rather than selecting them yourself.
Bella It’s terrible for storytelling and incredibly non sensical. My Sim aspiration to knowledge always end up leading to randomly selecting the criminal life want and interests that have absolutely nothing to do with neither aspirations. It’s not fun, just random for me.
@@Carolina-rd3gh That's fine, I prefer it because it makes the sims feel more unique to me. I really love for my sims to choose things on their own, but that's just my play style. Although I do agree that the randomized LTWs are silly, I usually end up changing those.
Bella Unfortunately it is also random again to cheat and change them. You basically have to randomise again and again until you get the one you want.... To me the interests being randomised doesn’t make unique sims whatsoever. In fact, I’ve notice that there are very few randomised combinations of interests, maybe only like 12 or so, so it can feel like I’m creating the same character over and over again. For personality no game beats the Sims 3. 5 traits + a couple more you can gain in game + zodiac signs that you can alter without changing your personality + a whole panel of favourites!
Sunset Valley was phenomenal, I remember playing hundreds of hours on that map, playing with all the families who all had their own lifestyles and cash to spend. I remember playing through 5 generations of Sims and everything felt so connected to eachother as Sims also remembered what they did ages ago.
I, to this day cannot get into playing the sims 4. I just can’t. I feel like this games whole concept is totally messed up and is not what the sims is meant to be.
Omg, you described the three games perfectly. I’ve been playing sims 4 since it launched, and i’ve been collecting packs to know what the game can really offer. I remember very well all the years playing sims 1, 2 and 3 in my childhood. And sims 4 may be beautiful on designs and on CAS/BUILD mode. But my personal favorite part of playing The Sims is the GAMEPLAY, drama and lore behind the families. And The Sims 4 is the worst for sure on these three aspects. Packs are not replayable, personalities are the weakest, and that’s sad, it’s a game with SO MUCH potential and a potential that will never be achieved at this point. I just hope sims 5 won’t be this a huge money waste. I like playing sims 4, but i know how it lacks. The game doesn’t worth what you pay. Sims 2 and 3 will always be the best.
For me at least, the frnachise peaked at 3, I just love that I'm able to actually traverse the neighbourhood and see the other families grow alongside mine (Also sidenote for the multitasking... idk if I just missed something but this didn't seem so much as watching TV *while* having a conversation and more like sitting on the couch and having a conversation with the TV on - something that happened in Sims 3 already)
I like how the Sims 4 only really looks favourable in terms of gameplay to the Sims (1) haha... But even then TS1 had bedloads of personality and was insanely difficult so it's a different kettle of fish completely that I feel like lives on only in TS2. Petition to bring back the massive Biography Box into CAS
I really like the Sims 3 open concept and the mood things. also the personality traits . as someone who struggle with that in sims 2 I love it on sims 3
I started playing the Sims at Sims 4. Looking back, Sims 2 and 3 look like our wildest dreams for the Sims 4. I guess corporate greed took over. I realized that EA did the same thing with Madden. As the years went on and their fanbase got larger, EA removed and watered down features from the previous games, but increased the graphics. To my knowledge, EA no longer makes the Madden games over the outcry from the players. (Sorry if I am wrong). I just never thought the same thing would happen to the Sims. I had so much hope for the Sims 4. But that Star Wars pack was just it for me, like a lot of other Simmers. The Sims 4 is good for building, and the CAS is good, but the skin tones are really bad. The darker ones have red splotches all over them and you actually can see the pixels. Luckily, mods exist. Anyway, I think I might have to invest in the Sims 2 and 3. Stay safe everyone and have a great day!
I agree. EA destroys every franchise they get their greedy hands on. I hate what they've done to The Sims 4. It's such a shame. At least we still have the older games is all I can say.
@@PleasantSims I do thank you for introducing me to Sims 2 and 3. I actually bought the sims 3 recently back around the holidays. I do have a question, do you think you will play Paralives? It seems to be everything simmers want. Have a great day and thanks for responding! :)
@@potatochipsandwich5382 Yes, I will definitely be playing Paralives as soon as it's released. I am a Patron and I fully support and believe in the game. :)
I got the sims 2 today for the first time of ebay and I have to say that I am already obsessed its so good. Although the biggest drawback for me is the lack of story progression. I am by no means a rotational player and I love to see the world evolve around me in the sims 3.
I’m a rotational player in the Sims 3 and what she said is absolutely incorrect. You can switch to another family at any time in the Sims 3. Save the game, press edit town, deselect your family and go back to active family mode and there you go, you have all families to choose again without losing what you have done. Plus, you can deactivate story progression, ageing, and control how long they live in each life stage. You can literally play in every style in the sims 3.
I hope you didn't have to pay for it. TS2 hasn't been on sale for almost a decade. There's a whole reddit about it and playing the game with today's technology (r/thesims2)
If you meant the sims 3, I've had trouble with Ebay in the past so be careful. I use Steam for my TS3 game. You don't have to use Origin and during one of Steams huge sales (holidays and summer usually), TS3 and all expansion packs go on sale for $5 each :)
My sims 3 character and 3 visitors got killed by a meteor while hosting a pool party. I've had the game for years and that was the first time I've actually seen it happen. It WTF'd me into a whole new plane of existence.
I will have to say more like I love Sims 3 open world. Going to places with your Sims feeling like you are in it. I love that you can take boat house and just drive in the ocean and going under water and seeing what’s under the sea. To driving or riding to the store without a loading screen really caught me. And when you want to edit the world your in you don’t have to leave that family. One downside was when you go anywhere have to to wait to load up. Maybe my fault since I love adding things. 😅 So love in the Sims 2 don’t have to worry about that. Loading screen baits but never have to wait to load up. I play mostly Sims 2 and 3 more. Sims 4 still have to many updates and whatever mod or cc you have don’t work and you have to wait until it is updated.
I saw someone say this once in a forum discussion about these three games: Players are literally gods in The Sims 2. Yes, the game is old and is starting to show in some aspects (no multitasking, no color wheel, no advanced AI that prevent some stupid behaviors, no complex tools like the ones to build, etc) but it has the most god-like feeling when you are playing with it. You can literally do anything! Wanna play with families you didn't create and interpret their stories as you like? You can do that! Prefer to completely create your own families and worlds? Or even a mix of the two? Yes, and yes! Maybe you like to let your Sims decide by themselves? Well, just follow their Wants and Fears! But if you don't like that, you can just do whatever you want with their lifes! The game is not too difficult like TS1 and isn't too easy like TS4. And maybe there's no color wheel, but you can create your own CC with Bodyshop and Homecrafter, it's easy (oh boy, how many ugly Sailor Moon tshirts I've created...). The game is so simple to "learn" but so complex at it's core. YOU decide how you wanna play. You aren't limited by the game in any way. You. Are. A. God. And THAT'S what's terribly missing from TS4.
They took out so much from the sims in Sims 4. Trying to play it feels like I may as well have a Barbie playset where I have to pretend everything is happening... Actually, i take that back, my old dollhouse had more features🤦
Thank you so much for this in depth comparison! A walk down memory lane. Going to try to reinstall sims 2 and sims 3 now! So bored with the shallow gameplay of 4 - all I can do is build and cas, gameplay is nonexistent even with mods
In my opinion, Veronaville is unmatched. It's a beautiful neighbourhood and all the premade families (lots and binned) have great backstories and drama (also, the memory system in Sims 2!! And the amount of lore these and the familiy pictures conveyed. Unreal.). I enjoy other Sims 2 neighbourhoods and some from Sims 3 (although I dont play that crashing hellscape a lot) - but Veronaville has been holding my heart from the first time I loaded he game.
And I'll never understand why do we have aspirations instead of lifetime wants. Maybe if the aspirations were good i would understand but they aren't. I don't like the sims 4 and will never waste money on that game. The only thing I enjoy is building.
I like the Sims 3 aspirations the best. Unfortunately even though you can choose the lifetime aspirations in Sims 2 (knowledge, popularity, love, wealth, family), the lifetime want is unfortunately completely randomised and non sensical. My knowledge oriented Sims always gets randomised to be a criminal in the Sims 2. To cheat that out is still random, you have to randomise over and over until you get the one you want. The Sims 3 aspirations and store rewards were really great!
Celfieparie For challenging definitely try The Sims 2. It’s the hardest one. For me it’s too random in terms of personality so I don’t get too invested in characters but the gameplay is dramatic so you might like that. It’s free at the moment also!
Ideally neither system would exist in the games. But, I think aspirations are better. As people age, their main goals in life often change. People don't generally devote their entire lives to one thing. Having a number of smaller goals, each with their own specific reward, is the better of the two options.
@@PoseurGoth but they have to be good, and in the sims 4 i don't think they are. Also the sims 2 has wishes and fears that helps you know what your sims want and don't want. But this is all subjective and every point of view is valid.
I love the looks of the Sims 4, how it runs, build mode etc. But I miss those unique life simulating traits from the Sims 2. And how I miss the build your own world and place your own lots option...
I’ve never actually played sims 2, started at sims 3 as a kid, went to sims 4 when it came out...coming back to sims 3 now that sims 4 is a hellscape :’)
I got the sims 4 when it was like $5 and I played for a little bit but was Very quickly like what do I do know? I havent been back Sims 2 on the other hand will never leave my heart
Absolutely loved this video. Specially how most of us might prefer TS2 or TS3 depending on our gameplay, but we all have major issues with TS4 🤣 Let me go get Nervous married with Pascal and adopt some kitties
I recently uploaded a current household video on my sims 4 game where I play all the townies, and I so agree. I never played the townies because it angered me so much that none of the stories were reflective in the relationships. I’ve tried to recreate all the lore in the sims 4 and it’s been a lot of fun! But it takes a lot of my own work to get it there, and I have to use my imagination to ad lib more where as in the previous games the sims did more of the ground work with the stories.
I've played all the games plus Sims 1, Sims Medieval, the Life Stories and even Sim Town from the 90's. IMHO the only game with staying power is the Sims 2. The Sims 3 has too many technical issues that make any length of play near impossible. The Sims 4 is a disaster that us Sims lovers try to prop up. The Sims 2 rules!
I love that when you load a premade family in the sims 2, things are already happening. Like you load in the Curious Brothers, Pascal is pregnant. And Vidcund just got abducted. Good luck! You just loaded the Pleasants? Your side piece is coming over now. Goths? Cassandra’s getting married to Don.
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Hey everyone! I ended up splitting this video in two parts or it would have been an hour long. In the next part, I'll cover careers, CAS, and build/buy mode in the base games.
I also want to clarify that this is a broad overview and I wasn't able to cover every detail in a 30 minute video. However, I plan to make more in-depth comparisons covering a single aspect of the game in the future. If I didn't cover something here, I will get to it! Thank you for watching!
I only have the Sims 3 and I feel that it’s not the best but it’s worst *cough cough Sims 4*
I’ve actually been building my own save In Sims 4, and I’ve been cheating relationships to make them match the stories in the description. That and experimenting with some mods to try and add some more to the personality of the sims. It’s a bit of a shame that I find myself doing it, but at least I’m putting my own stamp on it I guess.
Once I’m happy, I’m probably just going to reload that save as my default instead of a fresh save, and enjoy seeing some chaos hopefully unfold a little bit more sims 2 style.
Here’s hoping it works. There was some real potential for good storytelling if they’d developed the in game sims and the relationship mechanics some more.
Pleeeease, more videos like this 🖤 anything sims 2 related 😍
Sims 4 needs to learn from sims 2
I'm thinking of getting sims 2. What is the best computer/ lap top to run it? I'm new to computer gaming being a console gamer for my whole life lol I've played a few times on a computer. I'm wanting to get back to what sims used to be.
The sims 4 is the definition of: "I'm not surprised, just disappointed"
I agree, maybe also: "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
Lol true
"I expect nothing and I'm still let down" 😂😂
Maybe. 😊
My S4 Sims: I'm having a conversation!
S4 Townie: No. WE Are Having A Conversation.
I'm weak
It's so true and I hate it 😭😅
I hate that so much 😭
Can't even have a damn private conversation without someone wanting to join in! Next thing you know the whole room is chatting!!
*USSR Anthem song play in the background
The sims 2 is literally that old friend you never really forget. Iconic.
I agree with that! Perfect description! 💙
I think I liked the university experience in Sims 2 the best.
Andrea Bernardi still playing it 😩
Erin Poppert me too!
Hands down definitely. It'll never be forgotten.
Fun Fact: The Sims 3 has a hidden memory system. I'm not referring to the scrapbook feature introduced in The Sims 3 Generations. There's a class in the game's code called "Life Event Manager" that registers the date and time of every event in our Sims' lives (as well as the actor and target of said event). Then that data is saved in our Sim's information (this is called Sim's description in the code of the game). The game knows the exact date our Sims started working at a particular job and they use that information for the work anniversary pop-up; it knows our Sims' wedding anniversary and it uses it for the anniversary moodlet. The game also takes note every single time the relationship status towards someone changes and it uses it in various ways. Our Sims remember books they read, recipes they cooked, etc. I wish we could visualize this memory system in the game though.
That's so interesting! It would be great if we could have some kind of visual record in the game, I agree.
It also has hidden skills and traits that connect with the lore. One vampire in Bridgeport has a trait that makes him imune to fire for example. It’s fantastic!
Sims 4 has a hidden delete everything button in the code that is programmed to press itself every 2 seconds so it doesn’t register anything about a specific sim so you can’t enjoy the gameplay. In a specifc class, called “Fuck you”, there is a method, “Ignore”, that is further implemented in a derivated class called “Fuck you Simmers we do what we want take this star wars pack”. That method has the role of ignoring every wish and suggestion expressed by the community. Isn’t that amazing?
Carolina Rosa what skill gives fire immunity?
edit: this reply no longer makes sense cuz their comment has since been edited and reworded lol.
lithiumkid In Beau Merrick’s case is a trait not really a skill. He has the Pyromaniac hidden trait. His looks are supposed to resemble a devilish nature along with his evil trait and are inspired in the Deacon Frost character from Marvel. His household is filled with girls that you can play with to fulfil his serial romantic aspiration. You can drink all their blood and then create a fire and you will notice that if his love interest don’t leave he will be the only one not dying surrounded by flames since he can create fire himself and combat it.
You can do really messed up gameplays with this kind of depth like moving in 4 love interests at once to romance, drink from and burn and replace with new sims to fulfil his lifetime aspiration. Some ghosts when brough back in Bridgeport have premade relationships that reveal the friction between the vampire clans like the ghost buried in the Plasma lounge.
The Sims 3 is a league of their own in terms of lore: it goes beyond just families and invades the actual world and setting.
Lore: Sims 2 by FAR.
Worlds: Sims 3
Gameplay: Sims 2
Most expensive build and dress up simulator: Sims 4
I am sadden to say this but
Build mode: Sim 4 FTW!
Despite the lake of a color wheel, it is by far the easiest to build with. The optimization of it has made me clock a ton of hour building all sorts of stuff far faster than I could in the other games. The whole system is such a blast to use that I sometimes wonder why they didn't just make a MySims styled building game instead of mainline sims title.
By the MySims style gameplay I am referring to making houses and stuff for the community not the questing aspect, so essentially I'm pitching a spin off of a spin off. Of course it would have had the classic MySims style and be for a young audience but I don't mind with a building system that nice.
Bonus
Actually a children's game franchise: MySims
Is not meant to be a children's game franchise: The Sims (mainline series)
CAS (-skin tones) and some features of build mode are the only things ts4 is better at, so yeah, pretty accurate
@@eddie-roo it sucks bc i love creating sims and building in sims 4 but the second I get to playing the game its so,,, dull compared to S2 and S3
@André Alcântara Agree,also miss the ability to create natural ponds, and I need to be able to change ceilings instead of having them always be white. I mean it misses some original Sims build features even.
Still think Sims 3 was better Gameplay-wise but yes to the rest
Another thing about the sims 4 that just makes me so mad is the traits. When I got get famous I wanted to make a rich celebrity sim and the traits I gave her was self absorbed, mean and materialistic. Somehow those traits didn’t mean anything at all during the gameplay. My sims celebrity reputation was good which didn’t make sense considering her traits. The only thing the traits did was have a moodlet show up every once in a while. Which doesn’t mean anything since the emotion system in the game is completely broken. Like if your gonna make traits and an a emotion system have them mean something.
I know! I am covering this in part two of this series coming soon! I have some things to say about it.
I'm always blown away (and not in a good way) by how easy it is to play a mean / evil / jealous / hothead / unflirty sim who just gets along with everyone and has basically no problems socially, even down to how easy it is to make an unflirty sim fall in love and become flirty. Recently I had a mean sim get a whim to volunteer with his family, but afterwards got upset about it. I'm sorry, how does that make any sense? Why the heck did he want to do a thing that he knew would upset him? I could understand if it came from another trait like Family Oriented or Outgoing, but no, it came from "being near a family member". Unless "Dog Lover" makes a sim more charitable (or "Paranoid", don't see how that would work), he has nothing in his traits which would make this whim make sense. I really do miss the personality traits, wants and fears of Sims 2 and the traits of Sims 3.
Compare the insane (or erratic) trait from Sims 3 and Sims 4 for a great example of how lackluster traits are in 4. In 3, erratic sims would actively freak out other sims without even trying, whereas in 4 your erratic sim can talk to themselves in their underwear in the middle of a city festival and no one bats an eyelash at it. Absolutely no meaning or immersion to the traits now, it's sad to see.
I sometimes feel they want to keep out anything that's "frustrating" or "limiting" but having your Sims being able to do everything makes them all the same.
@@MrMarinus18 I know this is old but I saw your comment and I have to agree. I started playing Sims 4 first because I never could afford the setup or the games in the past. I recently tried Sims 3 and finally it clicked what everyone was saying about the Sims in 4 being like robots that had no autonomy as far as their thoughts or reactions to things. Its so easy to develop relationships in Sims 4 in any direction compared to Sims 3. What's the point in that, if it's all the same pretty much and you have to make up stuff in your head to make a narrative for your family as you go to make it an enjoyable experience . All the Sims in 4 to me feel like the same person.
I honestly love the sims 3, even if it runs horribly it is by far the most fun to play, and it is the only game in the franchise that i feel you can find new secrets and details almost daily.
I never had performance issues. The Sims 4 has given me way more crashes with builds download from the gallery.
I never had problems running The Sims 3. Maybe I'm just lucky.
I learn new things about sims 2 all the time to
Alice Lindsay You just need a decent computer: with the combined price of all crappy Sims 4 dlc you can get one and have money to spare for a solid game in the Sims 3 or Sims 2 (this one is even free now). I literally play with an old gaming laptop and it still runs smoothly. It only has 8GB of RAM and an i7 processor. Nothing special. Even freaking Island Paradise that everyone complains runs fine.
@@Carolina-rd3gh Base game sure, a decent computer is enough to handle it, but with all expansion packs you either need a powerful computer or mods, still a great game tho, don't get me wrong.
I'll forever remember the disappointment of starting my first sims 4 game, going to willow creek and just being like "....wait.. that's it?"
And honestly that's what sims 4 felt like since.
same!
Omg yeah exactly! And when i started to get bored and sad that i cant enjoy sims anymore, that i probably grew up from that state, i had a realisation that it was only bcs ts4 sucks, that was worth it
The first time I saw the S4 I thought I had bought the wrong game, like a copy from another company, but nop, that's really what they wanted to give us
I felt like an Asian mom hearing her son just got 96% on his test.
I had that exact feeling. For a bit, it was alright. Then I just realized how empty it was. I felt so disappointed and felt like I paid for just some game that isn’t even in the sims franchise barely.
The bad thing about all this is that we can't say anything to the Sim Gurus, about the sims 4 because they have excuses for everything, like when they said controlling pets was not realistic , but of course star wars is. instead of accepting criticism they find a way to gaslight us, for me the sims 4 is dead . It is pretty but not what I paid for. I want Will Wright Back , I want Maxis Back!...
Btw I love your videos ! :D
The fact that you can't even see your pet's needs.
The last excuse was that it takes a team of 12 to make ONE object. CC creaters are now Gods
Lol their reason for putting Star Wars in was such bs. We all know it’s just a Disney park ad to make EA more money
You can't even see the skills you taught your pets which is in fact unrealistic. They could have at least done a cheat to do all that stuff for those who want to do that
Controlling your pets is not realistic, but they somehow managed it in Sims 3. That was one of the nicer things for me in that I had at least a little control over my pets. My sim could be at work and I would get her cat to hunt.
Sims 1: An ancient scroll
Sims 2: A poem full of depth
Sims 3: A book
Sims 4: Movie adaptation of that book
LMAO
More like a Netflix adaptation of the book
the best comparison I've ever seen
@@lizardman9494 Even worse, a Lifetime adaption.
💀💀💀
Sims 4 lore: Katrina and don lothario are in a romantic relationship
Sims 4 in-game: Katrina and don lothario are just acquaintance
Me: Why?
Yep. They didn't make the bios match the actual relationships. It just feels so unfinished.
@agh yeah they were pretty much created in the cas engine and just plopped down. Personally whenever I play them I normally edit them to look like closely to their sims 2 counterparts and then delete Katrina lol 😆
Not to mention Katrina technically shouldn't even exist, but EA isn't ready for that conversation 👀
Pleasant Sims The relationships in the Sims 4 suck. I really struggle to make sims dislike each other. If I make them enemies it wears out after a few days for some reason. Do you know any mod to fix this? :/
Worlds: The Sims 3
Lore: The Sims 2
Gameplay: *BOTH* The Sims 2 and The Sims 3
The Sims 4... It exists.
I would say that Sims 4 have the best graphics and Sims, and build mode... But yeah, only that (And that is expected as it's the most recent one)
The sims 4 has great build mode. it's easier to use and function
build mode in sims 4 is great but i can't stand the graphic of sims, i prefer to play sims 3 with mods and cc
I’m sad it exists
Sims 4: Graphics and CAS/Build mode
I think all the game are good, but 3 is definitely my favourite as it fits my play style more
I get that! It's a really good game especially for single-family or legacy play.
me too. I also really liked the CAW tool.
A lot of important bugs and the game collapsed every time...
@@SolisIlanga The multitasking bothers me in some ways. Like if you cue up a bunch of actions the game isn't smart enough to change the order. So your sim will sit there in silence eating b/c they have to pee next instead of moving onto the talk cue that they could've done while eating. If that makes sense.
Pleasant Sims What single family gameplay? You can switch to another family at any time!
Another thing I miss about TS2 are the little details in the animations. Like how they open the car doors to get in them, opening cabinets and drawers when they cook, remove an actual slice of pizza from the box and the pie will have that slice missing from when they removed it, couch cushions sink down when they sit, etc. And their reactions to their family members, like the little kids would greet their parents when they come home from work or cry when their parents argue, when elder sims hug their adult children they wave them over like to say “get over here and give me a hug”. I miss those things a lot!
Or the kuddeling when husband and wife go to sleep
They were not fully gone in the Sims 3- that game reused quite a few animations from the Sims 2. I can't say about the Sims 4 though- never played it and never will
Some of the kid interactions (esp. the report card one) would not work in the Sims 3, where kids can return home and be the only ones there while everyone else is at work. In the Sims 2, the kid would be taken by the Social Worker if this situation happened. I guess that is a reflection of the times: the Sims 3 is a chronological prequel to the Sims 2, taking place in a time when things were safer, evident by how kids had a longer curfew in the Sims 3 (10 PM vs 6 PM)
Playing Sims 2 yeaterday and My Sim had a baby and I sent mom to bed as dad came home. Dad picked up the newborn and I did the cuddle and play interactions. I had forgotten how sweet Sims 2 sims were with babies. Yeah, you have to be careful of them not ending up on the floor, but the Sims 2 babies (newborns) are my favorite execution of the newborn baby stage 100%.
Sometimes 4s multitasking can be annoying though because you'll be eating a meal with your date at a restaurant for example, and some random sim will come and butt into your conservation while you're trying to flirt with your date, and then everyone gets uncomfortable
I know what you mean, but I consider that more a flaw with NPC behavior than multitasking itself. More poor programming on EA's part. I use a mod to stop randoms from interrupting and it helps with that.
My sims often go jogging with a plate of food still in their hand
I kept having issues where a sim would try to read a book and eat dinner at the same time. They'd end up sitting down with the food and the book and then they'd get up again and put the book away and eat lol
@@imaginefun13 I know!!! Haha! This is what I don't like about it, everything takes too long. Sims take their plate of food, sit down, do whatever silly animation, take a bite, get up to talk to someone, sit down somewhere else, take a bite, silly animation, get up to do whatever, get a call from their boss, forget about what they were doing and are also missing work, lol. But yes, this can be fixed, so I still want multi-tasking.
Lol one time my married sims went on a date and then some random guy started flirting with my sims spouse, which caused their relationship to plummet. Ended up “taking care” of him.
The Sims 4 is really pushing a “YOU make the story” thing. That’s why they would say there’s basically no built-in lore, and they can wave away concerns about boring/personality-less Sims as you not being creative enough. The whole Sims Spark’d was framed around the idea of Sims players being storytellers. The problem is that Sims has always had lore-based AND completely original story possibilities. You could easily ignore lore-based Sims in previous games, if you wanted, but you also were given many interesting places to start in the lore, if that’s what you preferred. In the Sims 3 and especially the Sims 2, you can make whatever story you want and are given the options to make it happen as you want it. Then, in the Sims 4, they tell us to “make our own stories,” but then never give us the tools that would make that really happen like personality traits that matter, neighborhood customization, a memory system in Sims, wants and fears, story progression/meaningful activities for all ages, and more.
Ufffff amen to that. I've tried explaining that in heated forums but i was always told, "if you don't like it don't buy it..."
I don’t really like making my own stories for the reason that it’s too demanding. You have to set up every last little detail. Well, I do like making stories but I don’t like setting them up in the Sims, I guess, the setting up thing is sometimes annoying. I normally just play the game or leave Sims on autonomy.
This explains it so perfectly
When the sims 4 was released in 2014, I still remember what EA said,”Be Creative”. Now I truly uderstand what it meant.
Same it gets boring in sims 4 making my sims fight and have a nasty breakup. I have to control both parties and drag out the drama myself because they will forget soon they are mad. Just feels like I want my sims to act on their own. Me doing everything feels like a doll house and that makes it so boring.
When the sims 4 was just released, it seemed to be boring and empty. Now we have a lot of packs, but it's still boring. Sims lack personality. And why we have aspirations instead of lifelong wishes? You can literally fulfill all aspirations for one sim.
The personality traits in 4 are limited, too.
I actually liked that in the beginning. Shorter lasting aspirations felt more realistic, like it was room for the sims to change and grow, and not to be bound by ONE major life goal, which is unrealistic. But I also feel like it’s very poorly executed, aspirations are basically tutorials, and they dom’t affect their personalities, wants and fears etc. So I think it had potential to create another layer of depth, but of course they failed spectacularly in the execution.
I prefer the aspirations. But to be honest, I'd kind of prefer a return to the way things were in the Sims 2 base game, where we just got rid of lifetime wishes altogether, and just had aspiration themes instead, although possibly numerous ones in multiple categories (for example, different money/career based aspirations, like getting a lot of money and career advancement, buying expensive stuff, or even a slacker one which would reward you for vacationing and taking time off. And for friendship you could have some based on having a ton of acquaintances, a smaller set of really close friends, or even a long distance option that would reward hermits).
@@corelli_cat1453 Ye, having several aspirations is more realistic. But fulfilling them really doesn't impact your sim's life. I like that in the sims 3 you are given the list of goals somehow associated with sim's traits. Or in the sims 2 sim reacts differently, if some actions match the traits or not.
Corelli_Cat they should have life wishes for every age group if you know what I mean. So they have multiple life goals that you can do but it’s still not as repetitive as the aspirations currently are. Also they should definitely include more life goals for kids and teens as there are none (especially with teens. They don’t have any life goal things just for their age group. They are basically watered down young adults)
For me, The Sims 3 is the most immersive game of the franchise and my favourite: best personalities, worlds and gameplay and I enjoyed the storylines way more because there were way more families with loads of relationships with each other.
I fell that its because there is a story progression that's way better than in Sims 4 and in if you wanted everybody to age in the world you constantly needed to go to families and play with them. Also Sims 3 doesn't have loading screenes.
@Rytis Cyber Not for me.
@Rytis Cyber i had that same issue to until i uninstalled the pets expansion pack
@Rytis Cyber lower your graphics
@Rytis Cyber That might be your computer thing. I heard that it glitches because it wasn't made for "good computers" or something. Mine works amazing and very little lag.
The basegame is probably the best way to compare these games. After all they are the foundations. Also many people forget what is basegame and what is DLC.
I agree! And there is still a LOT to compare just with the base game. It will take two videos at least and I still don't feel like I'll get to everything.
Now I'm noticing that sims 2 is the only one I'd play for a long time with just the base game and no mods.
If EPs were included it would be unfair to 3 and 4
That One Guy Hotdoggerson how would it be unfair to 3? Also not to mention sims 4 already has 9 expansions meaning it has one more then sims 2 which only has 8 expansions.
@@chrismontano9787 simply because the sims 2 expansions were the best in the series
The use of the phrase “doll house” instead of “life simulator” for The Sims 4 is so accurate.
Imo it's like this:
Sims 1: The classic
Sims 2: For story players
Sims 3: For explorers
Sims 4: For builders / CAS
Sims medieval: For roleplayers
Change my mind?
Sims 1: nostalgia
Sims 2: rotational
Sims 3: one-household
Sims 4: porn *cough cough* Wicked Whims
"Change my mind"
Well, I'm a builder and I think The Sims 4 sucks! Yes it has some cool features but overall I just think its easier but not the best!
The Sims 3 build mode has so many details and the color wheel is just a game changing for me!
And TS4 worlds suck! I feel creatively restricted by the amount of fake surroundings. I have to build a house that fits the set dressing otherwise I will be triggered! It sucks!
@@AymanTravelTransport Okay. I stand corrected this is better lol
@@renatopereira810 Right! And the patterns / materials. TS3 is much more customizable indeed. Though, imagine how cool it would be to have TS3's build mode but with the spandrels, pillars and friezes from 4 + the resize option.
Let's just hope paralives throws everything cool together to make something awesome!
As a builder I like Sims 4 the best, but I really really miss the color wheel. A lot of the swatches on the furniture in TS4 are so weird; a color mix that confuses me so much. At least put in a simple white/black version of everything. 😅😅
The thing that annoys me the most about the sims 4 "lore" is that Johnny zest isn't even related to the landgrabs when it specific says he is
They did this with all the families. It's so frustrating. You're expecting story and there is none.
Apparently this is because when the Sims 4 first released they didn't add family trees yet, which is a crazy fact by itself.
@@robinredd7734 omg you're right I forgot about that
The thing is that you can improve Sims 2 and Sims 3 (like the graphics or looks of your Sims) with mods and their core of gameplay and customization is still there. You can't get that much with mods for Sims 4 because the whole system of it is lacking in depth and no mods can help with that in my opinion.
I agree Marta! That's a very good way to say it!
Should I try sims 3?
@@blackroyalness9780 same question LOL, I'm wandering should I play sims 3 or 2 cus both of them are better :')
@@blackroyalness9780 I haven't played sims 2 before, but you should definitely get sims 3! It's such a good game, and even the 2 expansion pack bundles are really cheap now. In fact, you should buy it through Steam because the expansions and stuff frequently go on sale for like $9 each. It has a lot of performance issues, but the modding community has worked really hard on fixing those. It will play wonderfully unless you're a monster like me and insist on having all of your content in-game at once, lol.
Fiola both are good in their own ways. I would be careful with Sims 3 though if you have a wonky computer.
I honestly really like rabbitholes in sims 3. First of all, imagine the performance issues we would have if they made open stores, restaurants, etc. aswell. It would be horrible.
But the biggest reason why i actually like rabbitholes is the "stress" you might have when playing all your sims in an open world at once. Ambitions gave us interactive "no-rabbithole" jobs and i rarely play that pack because its just "too much" for me when i have 4 other sims that do other stuff in the world at the same time. It maybe works in small households when the other sims are at work/school so you only control your one sims ambitions-job. But i like big families and i like the fact they can be all around the town, everyone doing something else.
Rabbitholes support me so i dont have too much to do at once. I like it when my sims go on a date to a restaurant and i will just play my other sims during that. The small "options" you get in most rabbitholes (like working hard or be lazy instead at work/school) are enough for me.
For Sims 5 i hope they give us the option to either play the job/date/whatever interactively ourselves OR let the sims go to that place alone as a rabbithole. Similar to Sims 3 Ambitions Doctors where you occasionally have interactive jobs (that you can ignore) or in sims 4 where you can send a pregnant sim to the hospital alone or go with them.
The Skill careers introduced in Ambitions (e.g. painter, writer, sculptor) are pretty useful though
I am actually ok with giving up open world and not having rabbit holes. Tho I like TS3 more than TS4, TS2 had the right balance for me. I was ok with a drive off screen and a fade out. Then fade into the lot I was visiting and having things to do. They really only needed to fix the community lot time travel issue so you could swap between family members in different locations and so time actually passed and you didn’t return home the same time you left. The ONLY minor changes I would make.
I also wish there were sections of open neighborhood where you could freely walk to you neighbors, but I don’t need the whole map open all at once. Just little sections you could freely walk around without a loading screen.
I grew up playing the Sims 2 and 3. I love both games so much and I will always love them. The Sims 4, on the other hand, I pretend that game doesn't exist.
LOL. I know the feeling.
I loved the Sims 2, and after installing everything again I realised it wasn't nostalgia - the game is genuinely that good. But I think whether you prefer Sims 2 or 3 mostly has to do with personal playing styles and preferences. I never really got into Sims 3 but I can easily admit it's a well-made game that improves certain aspects of Sims 2 in a way a sequel game naturally would, while also adding its own spin so it's not just more of the same. ...And then there's Sims 4, doing neither of those things.
It's really interesting that many things from before 2012 aren't nostalgia and actually are better in many regards. At least when it comes to games. I show my nephew games from my childhood and he gets impressed and even plays them on his own. The old industry used to be filled with many passionate developers doing the most they couldwith what they had, trying to make a new or unique experience. Nowdays its all about meeting industry standards. An over focus on graphics and performance rather than gameplay and story experience. Most of the Sims 4 expansions should have and probably could have been in the base game but were left out as a planned expansion rather than "wow our game came out great, lets add to it."
Being an avid sims 3 player. I was so hyped for sims 4. I remember watching all the trailers, analysis & speculation videos. Then I saw a gameplay stream of the sims 4 and the first thing I saw was a baby pop out of the basinet and turn into a child(toddlers werent in the game at launch). Needless to say im so glad I didnt spend a dime on the game. Sims 3 is still my favorite.
Hey Sims 3 is my all time favorite too!
I also still play the Sims 3! But I do miss the expansion packs and accessoires packs from the Sims 2. My favourite where appartement life, mansion&garden stuff and glamour stuff. (I never had pets of seasons but I had all the other packs)
can you still download sims 3? im interested in trying it over sims 4
@@purpleraikou yes of course! If TS4 was your first experience of Sims, I'd definitely recommend playing previous games! You can get it on origin, or it may be cheaper on G2A
Same, it's the exclusion of open world that turn me off
the sims 4 is just those action movies where they have amazing cgis and stunts, but no plots, story progression, or character development at all
And the previous 3 are those classic films that barely use any CGI but have amazing stories.
"I did a backflip! anyway, I'm gonna watch tv now..."
This sums it up adequately...
Unpopular opinions but I LOVE rabbit holes apart from restaurants and grocery stores.
I like them too for workplaces. If only we could go grocery shopping and eat inside restaurants I'd be good!
It depends for me. I'm just really glad when my sims are off to work or school and I can focus on other things, but other than that not really
Honestly for me I wouldn't care if they just drove outta town... Honestly it would be really useful for some towns so you wouldn't need to shoehorn in the rabbitholes... I really feel like the stadium doesn't fit into Sunset Valley and there's a reason the Military Base is in the City Hall in Bridgeport.
But I think they made a bad call with not making Bookstores, Supermarkets and Spas "Venues"...
So basically I guess I don't see the point in rabbitholes haha 😅 I feel like TS4 made the right call in binning them although I do like some like the mausoleum and the Science Lab in Sunset Valley adds to the Lore...
There is actually a set of sims 3 store content that allows in person restaurants I believe, I’m not sure how much it cost though.
I love rabbit holes too! They’re a really nice way for me to deal with large families. I can have a teen at the diner with his friends, another teen at the movies with her friends, dad taking the last two kids to tour the science lab, mom finally getting to sit down and write her book and I get a little break!
I will say though I wish that rabbit holes had more of an impact. It’d be great if sims could have made new friends, met new people, or even developed some skills while grocery shopping, touring various rabbit holes and watching movies. But I know I’m in the minority 😂😂😂
I personally prefer the Sims 3 above all, even though I agree that the Sims 2 had the best story-telling, memories, and micro-interactions. I just hated the loading screens so much, however, that I give Sims 3 the top spot for not making me go through a loading screen just to go to the store. I've also never had any lagging problems with the Sims 3, so it was actually the game that ran the best for me personally. Also, is it only me who thinks that the Sims 3 sims are not actually ugly? I've seen what I thought were the most beautiful sims I've ever seen come from the Sims 3, but hey, different strokes for different folks, I guess. :) All that said, this was a really good video going over the good and bad aspects of the Sims games (although I haven't played the Sims 4 yet, and I'm starting to think I may never play it).
I completely agree, honestly imo sims 2 is overrated
The sims 3 was the sims at its finest. So much gameplay, so much possibilities, awesome graphics, truly groundbreaking with tons of new content that had never been brought to the sims.
The sims 4 tried to imitate it but did it terribly.
I dont know why so much People Tell that sims 3 looks like potatoes, when You download some nice makeup / hair / clothes the sim looks so nice and realstic! I also like body of sims 3 compared to sims 4! In sims 4 they look like a plastic dolls and unrealistic body, i think Maybe sims 3 can be uglier, because reality looks like it! In sims 3 sims arent perfect they have flaws like in real life!
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@@evanbarnes6007 sims 3 is overrated actually
While I agree the sims 2 basegame was the best, I feel like when you add the expansions, Sims 3 really shines and you can act out basically any story you really want if you can look past the lags and the kind of stuck worlds. Also, i've never had an issue with how sims 3 looks
@@SolisIlanga didn't we all have our ugly phase when we were younger 😂
@@SolisIlanga Sims 3 look fine except for their eyes. An eye replacement is all they need to look decent, a skin replacement is also good. I'm fine with Maxis' clothes and hairs.
Meh both 3 and 2 have their pros and cons balancing them out to me. I do appreciate all the small details in the sims 2 tho for sure
The Sims 3 is the strongest game. Ambitious, gutsy, expansive and super immersive. Also, I never had performance issues and always played on average specs computers.
The problem with Sims 3 is that the expansions didn't exactly work well with each other. And there were extreme performance issues, and I'm not talking about lag. You would go to venues and they would be empty, or it would have the exact same family in them all the time.
This is something that the Sims 4 kind of does well, because certain lot types tend to attract certain ages (although later expansions have kind of changed this partially). For example, in the base game the nightclubs would primarily attract young adults, bars tended to get adults, parks have a stronger appeal to teenagers, etc. That was one of the things the game got right. And I haven't felt like there was a ton of conflict between different packs.
I love digging through Sims’ memories in The Sims 2. It’s so fun to see major events over the course of their entire lives in one panel.
My first Sims game was the Sims 3 and I still play this until today. The Gameplay is just so much fun for me. I tried sims 2 and sims 4 but I miss the open world because I like to control multiple sims at the same time. So my favorite has to be The Sims 3.
Sims 3 is a good game and I know a lot of people count it as favorite for this very reason!
Saaame i can see why people love sims 2 but it's just not it for me compared to sims 3
Same, I like to control multiple sims and families very easily and the open word and edit town mode are incredible.
Probably this is an unpopular opinion but I don’t like the Sims 4 multitasking system at all, I kind of prefer my sims focusing on doing one task at time and then move to the other one, and my case the sims 4 is that I used to get desperate because my sims couldn’t have dinner without sitting in a lot o different chairs, go watching tv and honestly I don’t enjoy that,
That’s only my opinion and it’s probably that way because I get use to the sims 3 system.
PD: I’ve been so obsessed with your channel lately, I really admire the love that you have for the sims 2 and that actually make me wanting to play it again, and that’s what I have done the last weeks, thank you for all :)
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I agree! I hate when a sim takes 5 sim hours to eat a sandwich because he insists doing something else like watching tv, listen to music or talk with other sims. I wish they could just do like in The Sims 2 for consoles and just make some features multitasking and others not!
I hated the multitasking like 5 minutes after playing the game when I realized it takes them sooooo long to do these tasks.
this. i get so frustrated with my sims wanting to do everything at once when i only want them to eat their sandwich and hurry to work... i also don't like how unnatural the multitasking system is, especially when it's conversing with other sims-- tho that might sound weird. i prefer ts2 style where they'll converse with sims while eating as long as they're in a certain radius from them. sorta wish it was like that for radios and tvs too, and then shorten the amount of time they spend eating while multitasking. i don't know how many times i've gotten mad because they'd take forever to prepare a meal, and then forever to eat because they wanted to talk to someone and watch tv... and just not eat... then they have to go to work... like bruh. did no one test this?
Renato Pereira couldn’t agree more
SweatdropStealer I knoow, it is so stressful and is much worse if you are used to the sims 2 or 3 system.
I think it’s a shame because I remember how ea back in the day sold multitasking as a super revolutionary feature to the sims but at the end I think is one of the many reasons I ratter play sims 2 or 3 instead of sims 4.
A game is for entertaining and have fun while playing it, not to be so freaking stressed because your sim takes 7 hours to eat his freaking sandwich.
The sims 3 world with the most lore is probably Twinbrook, there's like a thousand mysteries there. Other worlds have their things like Isla Paradiso with its cheating scandals and little mermaid spoofs but Twinbrook is just unmatched.
I love Twinbrook too!
I like Sunset Valley (Bunch, Crumplebottom, Langerak and Wolff are my favourite families) and Twinbrook the best in terms of lore. Bridgeport is decent; but I find it less diverse in terms of personalities and occupations. Too little sims in some careers and like 5 female journalists that have somewhat the same vibe in terms of personality. Isla Paradiso has weaker storylines but it’s one of the most stunning worlds and an incredible and criminally underrated pack simply because people have crappy computers and are butt hurt that fantastic gameplay demands a decent laptop.
André Alcântara I don’t have any problems with Island Paradise actually so I never experienced those difficulties. The problem with performance has more to do with your computer than the actual game. I think a Windows update made modern computers unable to recognise the graphics card for certain games. This is a Windows issue.
While it's true there are some potential issues with running TS3 on a modern build (fixable ones), the game is definitely a bit of a mess to be fair. In Isla Paradiso there are a lot of routing problems, bugged collectables, a corrupted household apparently (Scott family) and so on. I remember years ago when the sims team had some serious lag during the livestream to promote the expansion (with SimGuru Graham). Very disruptive and I think they only had BG+Island Paradise installed. This is why NRaas performance mods and world fixes exist.
A lot of the worlds from the S3 store have more pieces of lore connected to S2. One of the worlds (I think Midnight Hollow), they have Olive Spector with toddler Nervous Subject, Roaring Heights having the Capps as well as tons of other families and distant relatives from other families thrown in to other worlds.
As a person who started playing The Sims at 2003, The Sims 2 was a big leap forward, the graphics at the time (2004) were top notch and by looking how they’re rendered on a modern day computer like yours just tells the story: the game is a masterpiece, and unbelievably relevant even today 16 years later. I was a devoted player of the franchise, I purchased every expansion and stuff pack and I genuinely enjoyed my time playing it.
That was until The Sims 4 came, I was surprised by myself but my excitement for the game sharply dropped after two months. The game was very dull and boring, and never felt more worthy after The Sims 2 and 3 had such extensive gameplays. Six years later and The Sims 4 is still in production, feels out of touch, lacking and still seems like a big disappointment. The fact that they ended production for The Sims 2 after four years, but The Sims 4 with all the negativities is still being developed after six years (to no avail imo) feels super unjustified. I would recommend EA to carry on for The Sims 5 and to listen for the devoted players that play for two decades and have an idea what worked in the past that will obviously work now, but greed has taken over and it’d be better for them to keep out of another sequel that might make things worse.
The Sims 2 is a diamond and The Sims 3 is also great imo, at least we earned them.
I'm sorry? The Sims 4 has lore? Pretty sure the "lore" in this game is as surface level and empty as Daniel and Mary-Sue's marriage.
Loved this video! It's a fascinating concept and you've executed it wonderfully! Looking forward to part
2!
LOL. Very well put, Max!
You have to make your own lore, like that's any fun cos everything is too predictable unless you force something!
The only lore I found in the Sims 4 was in Windenburg. It's honestly the ONLY playable town with pre-made sims with a decent backstory and lore.
@@spicychicken9163 Windenberg is my favorite world in The Sims 4 and I hope to cover it in another video at some point when I get to the expansions. I agree with you!
Can we talk for a while how the title "Sim Guru" is absolutely self-absorbed? It feels like they want to boost their ego or something 🤔 P.S. The Sims 2 rules!
Yes
3 imo
What I love about sims 2 that it wasnt what you see what you get. I've played Pleasantview like 10 times and I never realised Brandi user to be in culinary or that Mary sue rejected Daniel's First Kiss which gives you context for a story.
Also it made it so realistic that they all had parents and grandparents
I know exactly what you mean! This also reminds me of how I learn new things about this game like every week and I've been playing it for 12 years!
Can never forgive Sims 4 for whitewashing the Caliente sisters.
I'm not a big fan of rotational play. We've been doing that since Sims 1. After a while, I need my sims to sims surroundings to change. Micro-manging gets boring to me after a while. It's a major reason why I love Sims 3. I have more time to flesh out my own storyline without having to stop.
I just got back into Sims 2 after kind of quitting Sims 4. Sims 2 makes up for it with details and lore drama, but I end up missing the things I had in Sims 3. The open-world, rabbit-holes, transportation variety, and overall experience. I prefer rabbit-holes cause it minimizes gameplay noise TS2 has. I went to a University Library lot to do a term paper and got distracted by a witch, a weirdo magician, the secret society, and the mascot. I dunno about y'all but... I just want my sim to do their paper without getting robbed, turned into a witch, and kidnapped.
The Sims 3 allows you to play rotational style pretty well unlike what she says if you use settings. I usually play in that micromanaging approach for the first 25 weeks of gameplay to set up my families (I have a save file for each world to cut that time frame short) and then I activate story progression and ageing and let them do their thing. I then keep jumping from family to family every few weeks but without being maniac and controlling everything. I play in every style pretty much. I love that the Sims 3 allows me to so.
Also, I couldn’t agree more with what you said in the last paragraph. You’re so right!
Me too, that's why I don't like TS4, I miss story progression, I just want to play with my family, I don't want to control everybody's life.
Sims 3 best sims
"The Sims 4 needs help." "I have NO hope it will be saved by EA." I hear ya, sister. Subscribed.
Ok so unpopular opinion I don't think Sims 3 sims are ugly, like at all, not even a little bit. Everyone always talks about how ugly they are and I just sit there like 👁👄👁 thinking they look really pretty. Maybe I'm just used to them idk.
Also. Sims in The Sims 3 have Actual Eyelashes, Unlike The Sims 4, but when I look at the Sims in The SIms Medieval i am like "Oooh. THAT is Nicely Detailed"
in my opinion sims from sims 2 looked best, like actual people. Nowadays you can just use some subtle really nice skin and eyes replacement and they look gorgeus. Also, clothes converted from sims 4 look great, much better than when sims from sims 4 wear them
I loved TS3 sims but I did a personal comparison between 3 and 4 and 4 wins in my opinion. Body styles are more customizable and more palpable. But they still retain their cartoonish feel so as to not feel TOO life-like. Both are still great tho. Considering 3 is from 2009. It was good for the time :)
I also like how the sims 3 sims look and don't think they're ugly! I find them charming
By default they look blah, but using the sliders can result in pretty Sims
I love this comparison! I used to play The Sims 2 and The Sims 3, and I recently went back to playing The Sims 3 and it has so much more rich gameplay than The Sims 4. More happened when I played The Sims 3 in one sitting than in The Sims 4 over several weeks of "play". Everything that happens in my Sims 4 game, I have to MAKE happen, whereas in The Sims 3, a lot more things naturally happen, and that's so exciting to go back to. ^_^
I hate how sims 4 tries to pretend they are woke but whitewashed the Calientes, Don and Bella and Cassandra.
I read that they changed Nighat's name because it wouldnt upload to the gallery because of their censors but like...just use another middle eastern name.
this upsets me so much!!! I feel like not enough ppl talk about how they white washed the characters, even if people are at least finally listening to the BIPOC about the lack of skin tones
THANK YOU. I rarely see people talking about this, for all the talk of representation they've actively _removed_ a lot of the representation that we already had. The Calientes are of course the biggest example of this, having had their entire family history and cultural background erased for some weird four-way relationship plot (which doesn't actually exist) between Don and their (fake) mother, but the Goths (particularly Cassandra) are also a blatant example of how little they _actually_ care about representation, Cassandra looks like a completely different sim, even with her "iconic" pigtails.
I also see both the Calientes and Goths as examples of interesting premade familiars that became boring beyond measure in TS4. I mean, both families have prominent ties to aliens in their history which go completely unaddressed in 4 (with the Calientes even having alien ancestors, though of course newer players get no indication of that). The Goths just aren't the same without the famous Goth mansion graveyard, and as Marticore points out in this very comment section, where the heck is Michael Bachelor? Did they just not know how to integrate him into the plot this time around, or simply not care to? Don't even get me started on how little effort they put into bringing back Dirk Dreamer and Dustin Broke, or the Pleasant Twins, or how they seem utterly incapable of deciding on and sticking to a personality for Malcolm Landgraab. I mean, he literally went from Good in 3, to Evil in 4, where's the logic??? The lack of lore in TS4, given how much there was in previous games, is just sad.
Agree. Also I don't get how they get away with marketing the game as inclusive and that you'd be able to create yourself in the game. I wish they'd not do that, because many ofc can't. You'd pretty much have to be a certain age, height, body type (no hip dips a.s.o.), color (skin, eyes, hair), abled bodied, hair texture, no body hair, identify as female or male and not have much of a personality. Plus more. Also, want to add your partner? If you're not married you can't in CAS. Imo they should't pretend TS4 to be inclusive, because it's not true and might make some vulnerable ppl/kids feel bad about themselves.
don't forget about Cassandra :"(
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Talking about the landgraabs Nancy looks like she went from office worker to (and this is form reddit) "The real housewives of Oasis Springs" in both Personality and Appearance lol I will say this though My favorite story regarding the Landgraabs came from the sims 3 cause it is actually believable (Though I have to constantly change Nick Alto's lifetime wish from standard lol) I half way think the Goths could also be in on that rivalry from the political standpoint as well They founded the town The landgraabs are second ONLY to the goths in the towns hierarchy (that being said I could see the Altos slowly (as per their discription) buying influence (for example for Judy Bunch and Dustin langereak could easily be bought by Vita promising to support higher qualities of education in sunset valley and accusing the goths of not supporting it properly) (TL:DR The story regarding the landgraabs is more believable in the sims 3
Sims 3 is my favorite because of the open world and the weather according to me is so much more realistic than in sims 4. Love the snowflakes, rain and depth levels of snow fall. Love the frozen lakes you can scate on. Love the festivals. Nothing in sims 4 compares to this. Dont remember everything about sims 2, but do remember when you walk up to a car, open doors and get it. So much better than just magically appearing in car like sims 3. Sims 2 also had best looking fire in the fireplace. When u switch the lights off at night, the flames actually reflect and flicker in the room. No other sims edition had that in. Super realistic.
Love your videos.
Big fan that you're such a big sims fan
It’s honestly so sad that the lore was changed in the sims 4 because I can’t imagine HOW they could fix the lore in the sims 5 (if EA actually cares to fix it). When / if the sims 5 happens I will be really curious where they take the lore. Will they try to return back to the OG ts2 and ts3 lore? Or will they continue ts4 lore? I think the “alternate universe” excuse is just that, an excuse. I have a feeling EA just made that up when ppl complained abt the lack of and mistakes in the lore. It makes me so sad that the lore was just DROPPED after ts3. I want Will Wright to come back and drop a new simulation game so he can pick up where EA left off with our sims. Also EA needs some competition so they can stop giving us... Star Wars.
I agree completely, erin. I have no hope for a Sims 5. I imagine it will be more of the same. I wish there were more competition. I think that is the ONLY thing that could save the franchise because then they would HAVE to try or lose money.
@@PleasantSims what do you think about paralives? I kinda like the cartoony artstyle as long as its pleasing to look at. But i think its going to take a very long time to release. Theres also an even more cartoony one called little sim world, and im excited for that one too :)
@@ninarae3368 I'm very excited for Paralives. I am a Patron and I fully support and believe in the game. I like the art style as it is, but I think it will improve over time (as it already has from the original renders). I'm more interested in gameplay than graphics - to an extent. I have seen Little Sim World and the graphics just look a bit too cutesy for my taste, but I might still give it a chance.
@@PleasantSims judging by the way EA are going I imagine Sims 5 will be even worse!
@@PleasantSims I hear their trying to make it online like they were originally planning with sims 4 before launch. But that's also why sims 4 is so different then it's counterparts. Sounds like a perfect idea for micro transactions..😑
When sims 1 came out, I watched my grandson play and ended up getting it myself..I loved it! then sims 2 arrived and seemed so advanced and complicated but drew you in..fantastic. Sims 3 was beautiful but the actual sims were awful and the game got very buggy and laggy . Sims 4 seemed full of promise, beautiful sims but more like dolls to dress up and..... same old routines, not much depth and became boring! I was never bored in sims 2. in conclusion, loved sims 1, played for hours in sims 2, frustrated in sims 3 and bored in in sims 4...so that about sums up my experience, sorry this was so long. Love watching you play the games, keep doing what you're doing Cindy you do it well ♥♥♥
Fun fact: it's most likely that the bff household was the first household made as they are a day older than all of the other base game sims.
That's interesting!
They’re a reference to Mysims Kingdom!
Omg! It’s been 6 years and I never even realised that - I love MySims Kingdom 💚
I had no idea that there was this much to these games I had only played the 4th sims and I thought they were all the same and as boring as sims 4 but now that you have explained all this I will definitely check them out I respect your passion and how much you put into this. Thank you for giving me a new mindset for these games 🤝
My question for TS4 is: Where's Michael freakin' Bachelor?!
When it comes to relationships in this part, they're basically what they would be if you just created those families yourself. Like the Pancakes family - the description says that they have marriage problems, when their relationship is just the default straight from CAS. Same for the BFF family - if you make 3 Sims that are just roommates, they will have exactly those relationships.
Whims who? I turned them off ages ago, totally useless XD
And I can never really say that multitasking is an advantage, since most simulation glitches and canceling actions comes from that feature alone. I kind of have a love-hate relationship with this one.
And unfortunately, TS3's in-game story progression stopped working completely after some patches, so now nothing happens in other families if you don't have the NRaas mod. Everyone will eventually die and be replaced with Sims that all have the same face. But the town is still very lively, with all the Sims hanging around, going to work etc.
I switched from sims 4 to sims 3 and my life has never been better. I highly recommend.
i did the same thing, i completely confirm this
Same
Personally, my fav is The Sims 3 'cuz I like to focus on one family all the time than control every family at the town like I had to at The Sims 2. I know this option is able also in The Sims 4 but maybe I'm a bit sentimental. Yeah, for me building and create the sim at TS4 is the best compare to previous sims series if we talk about look but I like more character traits at TS3. I feel like my sim has much more personality and I have a lot of fun play them.
A lot to talk about.
You can switch to another family at any time in the Sims 3. Save the game, press edit town, deselect your family and go back to active family mode and there you go, you have all families to choose again without losing what you have done.
I kinda hate multi tasking in ts4 when it comes to eating. They take LITERALLY HOURS because they're more focused on smiling or talking or doing basically NOTHING instead of just eating. Its so frustrating
Yeah. They start smiling like empty soulless shells of fake happiness.
Sims 4's lore: oh we gotta go? *intense footsteps* we gotta go?
😆 😆 😆
Ts4 lore really said: You wanna know what? *NO* I am gonna leave!
Sims 3 has the best lore.
Story progression in the sims 3 really fit my gameplay style, because sims around you would keep living and your sims could interact with families that were growing along side your own, so I definitely loved it!
Okay, I really feel like I'm the only person in the world who thinks Sims 4 is an ugly game xD idk, I don't like how bland and "clean" everything in it looks, including the world and the sims themselves. Also, I think the sims often have really weird proportions, like very wide hips with matchstick-thin legs. The only thing I didn't like about how the sims in Sims 3 looked was the notorious pancake face (i. e. every automatically generated sim had the same round face).
Speaking of looks and general atmosphere, I think Sims 2 excelled here, too - because the game dared to be ugly. It never really tried to make people say "ohh, this is pretty" - instead, it rather focused on making people laugh. Extreme contortions in CAS, idle animations of farting, the way interactions were animated, nasty stink clouds and fly swarms, and so on ... it never tried to be a dollhouse, and it had the best sense of humour of all of the three games because of it.
Sims 3 sims aside, the worlds itself were just beautiful and so realistic. I remember gasping in awe when I let my first sim travel to Egypt and zoomed into the neighborhood view. and the best part was that I could go just everywhere, even inside the tombs.
and then we were given that weird comic style of sims 4. which is neither very funny, nor very realistic. it's made to run on weak systems and does that perfectly, but that's it.
This video just proves how much we need The Sims 5 to be The Sims 2: Part 2.
I would literally cry with happiness if that happened. But I have lost any hope that it ever will.
Sky Dome how...?
Rodri Evans heavy on the HOWWWW cause what yo 😭
@Sky Dome ...Is this a joke? I don't get it...
Sims 2: Part 2, with the zaniness of Sims 1, the detail and fast-pace of Sims 3 and CAS capabilities of Sims 4. Game of the millennium material.
Even until this day, I still enjoy played the sims 2 and keep coming back to it because of how genuine the story and the gameplay feels
I grew up with TS3, but played a lot of TS4 because my laptops handled it better, and saying I was bored of TS4 is an understatement. I sure enjoy my fast-loading, dynamic CAS when my old TS3 setup used to take ages, but if that's the only fun part of the game, then it's worthless. There's no use being able to easily create a shell if it remains empty due to lack of customization and depth!
TS2 probably is the best game objectively, but since I lack the experience (and nostalgia) for it, I firmly remain in Team TS3. At least, having a legacy there and plopping my own Sims in the world was fun there. This video just shows exactly why TS2 and 3 are in another league compared to TS4.
Looking forward to Part 2 so I can hear about my dear, departed color wheel. Too good for this empty TS4 world.
The Sims 2 is overhyped by EA game changers like Plumbella because it’s fundamentally similar to Sims 4 (closed world, no story progression outside your house) but way more entertaining and dramatic. The Sims 3 simply cannot compare to any of these because it surpasses their scope entirely and gives you a fuller, more amino, expansive and immersive gameplay that is unlike any of the others.
I have played all 3 and have nostalgia for the Sims 2 and I have no doubt the Sims 3 is objectively the best game. There is no comparison. The Sims 3 is a beast with a solid base game and the most incredible and valuable DLC out of all of them.
@@Carolina-rd3gh Honestly it depends on personal playing style. I couldn't get into Sims 3 because I genuinely don't like the story progression and open world. Sims 2 fits me much better, so it's my favourite and I'm still playing it to this day, but I have no problem acknowledging that Sims 3 is a well-made game as well and I will occasionally play it for variety. Sims 4 just doesn't have the strengths of either.
Team Sims 3 here too!
I really love both sims 2 and sims 3 lore. Both complete each other and directly speak to each other and I just find that AMAZING.
You cannot go wrong with either
I am in love with Sims 3, open world was such a great treat from EA. Sims 2 is just a love affair from the beginning of the franchise
Although I love the sims 3 I would have to give it to the sims 2. Like every single family from the sims 2 is iconic, also I loved the effects you action had. Oh you cheated on someone? Have fun picking up the garbage can every single morning or having your newspaper stolen. I also love that in the sims 2 relationships can be one sided. You can have a sims that is totally in love with someone who just sees them as a friend.
Sims 2 will always and forever be the superior Sims game
I agree with you. It's sad to say I don't think there's much hope for a future game surpassing it.
“it feels like a first draft” is a perfect way to put it concisely.
I love the sims 2,but i think my favorite of all is the sims 3,just because has almost all i need in base game and even in some dlc's. I love the big neighborhoods,the open world,i like the color wheel,the visual! And of course the traits in this game works better compared with the sims 4.
What’s your favourite expansion packs?
@@Carolina-rd3gh Ambitions :)
Mari Shussei It’s one of my favourites too! Criminally underrated in reviews! I like Ambitions, Late Night and Island Paradise.
I’m not considering Generations or Seasons because they are must haves and shouldn’t be expansion packs.
My sims' queen has spoken! ❤️ I feel like you totally expressed my feelings about this series, and I actually really love to hear your opinions because I can see how much you truly love this game and what it means to you. I know that for many it may be just a game, but for me it's the best way to escape my suffocating reality. I've been playing since I was I child and it helped me develop who I am today, so seeing the state of the game nowadays just breaks my heart.
I really started loving the lore and premades thanks to you and I really wish I could repricate your gaming style because it's the best in my opinion. Sadly this isn't possible in the Sims 4, even with several different mods, the core of the game is gone. Also I still think that they could have said that it took place some time before Bella's disappearance, so people could actually have come up with some teories, but instead they just threw in the stupid alternative universe idea (also showing how lazy that was).
I'm just overall really disapponted as this is something that means the world to me.
I mean like I've only played the sims 3 and 4 but like sims 3 you had so much to do in the base game and even in like pets you got more than just two animals whilst in the sims 4 the base game has nothing and in pets you only get two animals, and you dont even get any smaller animals like rodents, turtles, birds, and other reptiles
The Sims 3 is the objectively the best gameplay in the franchise in terms of gameplay options.
I do love the sims 2 but I do feel that the sims’ personality was more interesting in the sims 3. The wants and fears in the sims 2 were great but they were always limited to whichever aspiration they had, and the personalities were a combination of points for 5 binary scales. I miss the memories and fears in the sims 3, but I personally prefer the personalities in the sims 3. Also the fact that clothes were so customisable.
But I 100% agree that the sims 4 craps on the lore. What they did to Dina and Nina I can’t forgive, but they also completely change Malcom Landgraab (son of Nancy). In the sims 3 he was a Good sim who imo was the hope for his family as he seemed more interested in being a doctor and helping people. But in the sims 4 they made him an Evil sim. Which is utterly stupid
The Sims 3 have the best personality out of all the games. The Sims 4 personalities are bland are a slave to emotions. The Sims 2 is super limited because there are not really traits but rather a point based system that stops you from creating a sim because you run out of points and puts you automatically in a zodiac sign based on the personality you choose and you cannot change it. Also, the interests of the sims 2 are cool but are totally randomised and only customisable if you spend precious days of a life stage reading magazines to increase it. For personality the Sims 3 has absolutely no competition.
Carolina Rosa 100% agree. I’d have to resort to cheats on the sims 2 to customise the personality and interests the way I wanted. Even then they’re not as good as the sims 3. There weren’t specialised interactions like in the sims 3 (eg Insane sims could talk to themselves). They also weren’t as nuanced because they were based on the binaries. Eg in the sims 3 you can make someone that is Evil but also Friendly (so you could make a manipulative person),m
Honestly, I wish the Sims 4 actually did something with its lore and pre-made households like previous games.
Like, the Landgraabs in Oasis Springs are said to have secrets which could tear them apart and cause drama! Plus, they disowned Johnny Zest, meaning things could be tense between them. But since the Sims 4 doesn't really have lasting consequences (sometimes sims will keep doing friendly interactions after yelling at each other) and Johnny Zest isn't even in the Landgraab family tree, nothing comes from that.
Yes, I really wish they would have at least put him in the Family Trees! All the households were like this - the bios meant nothing.
Johnny isn't in the family tree because The Sims 4 didn't have family trees at launch.
Bruh moment when they couldn’t even make Johnny related to them
Nahuel it should have been there at launch. Legacies have always been important in sims game since 2
The Sims 3 is my favourite, personally - there aren't as many of those little lifelike details like those in the Sims 2, but the sims themselves have a lot of depth. I spent a while playing TS4 before going back to TS3 and was super surprised by how much the traits actually affect sims and even intersect. Brave sims will fight the burglar (remember burglars??) but not if they're also good. I have a sim who's a loner and brooding, and if she loses a friend her social meter absolutely bottoms out. Those things that don't just influence autonomy or give you a moodlet at random times really give the game a lot of depth and give each individual sim a unique playstyle.
It's just such a shame that there's no fears, and no 64-bit client. I feel like a 64-bit client would eliminate most of the crashes. :/
The Sims 3 have the best personality out of all the games. The Sims 4 personalities are bland are a slave to emotions. The Sims 2 is super limited because there are not really traits but rather a point based system that stops you from creating a sim because you run out of points and puts you automatically in a zodiac sign based on the personality you choose and you cannot change it. Also, the interests of the sims 2 are cool but are totally randomised and only customisable if you spend precious days of a life stage reading magazines to increase it. For personality the Sims 3 has absolutely no competition.
@@Carolina-rd3gh I actually love that Sims 2 interests and hobbies are randomized, I think it's really fun to discover what their interests are rather than selecting them yourself.
Bella It’s terrible for storytelling and incredibly non sensical. My Sim aspiration to knowledge always end up leading to randomly selecting the criminal life want and interests that have absolutely nothing to do with neither aspirations. It’s not fun, just random for me.
@@Carolina-rd3gh That's fine, I prefer it because it makes the sims feel more unique to me. I really love for my sims to choose things on their own, but that's just my play style. Although I do agree that the randomized LTWs are silly, I usually end up changing those.
Bella Unfortunately it is also random again to cheat and change them. You basically have to randomise again and again until you get the one you want....
To me the interests being randomised doesn’t make unique sims whatsoever. In fact, I’ve notice that there are very few randomised combinations of interests, maybe only like 12 or so, so it can feel like I’m creating the same character over and over again. For personality no game beats the Sims 3. 5 traits + a couple more you can gain in game + zodiac signs that you can alter without changing your personality + a whole panel of favourites!
I had already lost all hope for the Sims 4 about two years back but this year made me remember how bad the game really has become.
Sunset Valley was phenomenal, I remember playing hundreds of hours on that map, playing with all the families who all had their own lifestyles and cash to spend. I remember playing through 5 generations of Sims and everything felt so connected to eachother as Sims also remembered what they did ages ago.
There's no Sims 4, there's only a garbage.
Wow savage
This comment takes the win
I used to be a collector. But now I do not collect packs with no value.
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I, to this day cannot get into playing the sims 4. I just can’t. I feel like this games whole concept is totally messed up and is not what the sims is meant to be.
Omg, you described the three games perfectly. I’ve been playing sims 4 since it launched, and i’ve been collecting packs to know what the game can really offer. I remember very well all the years playing sims 1, 2 and 3 in my childhood. And sims 4 may be beautiful on designs and on CAS/BUILD mode. But my personal favorite part of playing The Sims is the GAMEPLAY, drama and lore behind the families. And The Sims 4 is the worst for sure on these three aspects. Packs are not replayable, personalities are the weakest, and that’s sad, it’s a game with SO MUCH potential and a potential that will never be achieved at this point. I just hope sims 5 won’t be this a huge money waste. I like playing sims 4, but i know how it lacks. The game doesn’t worth what you pay. Sims 2 and 3 will always be the best.
You are clearly forgetting the best part about the sims 4. The 4t2 conversions.
😆 😆 😆 Damnit! You got me there!
For me at least, the frnachise peaked at 3, I just love that I'm able to actually traverse the neighbourhood and see the other families grow alongside mine
(Also sidenote for the multitasking... idk if I just missed something but this didn't seem so much as watching TV *while* having a conversation and more like sitting on the couch and having a conversation with the TV on - something that happened in Sims 3 already)
I like how the Sims 4 only really looks favourable in terms of gameplay to the Sims (1) haha...
But even then TS1 had bedloads of personality and was insanely difficult so it's a different kettle of fish completely that I feel like lives on only in TS2.
Petition to bring back the massive Biography Box into CAS
I really like the Sims 3 open concept and the mood things.
also the personality traits . as someone who struggle with that in sims 2 I love it on sims 3
I started playing the Sims at Sims 4. Looking back, Sims 2 and 3 look like our wildest dreams for the Sims 4. I guess corporate greed took over. I realized that EA did the same thing with Madden. As the years went on and their fanbase got larger, EA removed and watered down features from the previous games, but increased the graphics. To my knowledge, EA no longer makes the Madden games over the outcry from the players. (Sorry if I am wrong). I just never thought the same thing would happen to the Sims. I had so much hope for the Sims 4. But that Star Wars pack was just it for me, like a lot of other Simmers. The Sims 4 is good for building, and the CAS is good, but the skin tones are really bad. The darker ones have red splotches all over them and you actually can see the pixels. Luckily, mods exist. Anyway, I think I might have to invest in the Sims 2 and 3. Stay safe everyone and have a great day!
I agree. EA destroys every franchise they get their greedy hands on. I hate what they've done to The Sims 4. It's such a shame. At least we still have the older games is all I can say.
@@PleasantSims I do thank you for introducing me to Sims 2 and 3. I actually bought the sims 3 recently back around the holidays. I do have a question, do you think you will play Paralives? It seems to be everything simmers want. Have a great day and thanks for responding! :)
@@potatochipsandwich5382 Yes, I will definitely be playing Paralives as soon as it's released. I am a Patron and I fully support and believe in the game. :)
Pleasant Sims I can not wait! :D
You can get ts2 for free on OldGamesDownload i think...?
I really like how in S3 the neighbourhood looked like decently sized city.
I got the sims 2 today for the first time of ebay and I have to say that I am already obsessed its so good. Although the biggest drawback for me is the lack of story progression. I am by no means a rotational player and I love to see the world evolve around me in the sims 3.
I’m a rotational player in the Sims 3 and what she said is absolutely incorrect. You can switch to another family at any time in the Sims 3. Save the game, press edit town, deselect your family and go back to active family mode and there you go, you have all families to choose again without losing what you have done. Plus, you can deactivate story progression, ageing, and control how long they live in each life stage. You can literally play in every style in the sims 3.
I hope you didn't have to pay for it. TS2 hasn't been on sale for almost a decade. There's a whole reddit about it and playing the game with today's technology (r/thesims2)
If you meant the sims 3, I've had trouble with Ebay in the past so be careful. I use Steam for my TS3 game. You don't have to use Origin and during one of Steams huge sales (holidays and summer usually), TS3 and all expansion packs go on sale for $5 each :)
My sims 3 character and 3 visitors got killed by a meteor while hosting a pool party. I've had the game for years and that was the first time I've actually seen it happen. It WTF'd me into a whole new plane of existence.
I will have to say more like I love Sims 3 open world. Going to places with your Sims feeling like you are in it. I love that you can take boat house and just drive in the ocean and going under water and seeing what’s under the sea. To driving or riding to the store without a loading screen really caught me. And when you want to edit the world your in you don’t have to leave that family. One downside was when you go anywhere have to to wait to load up. Maybe my fault since I love adding things. 😅 So love in the Sims 2 don’t have to worry about that. Loading screen baits but never have to wait to load up. I play mostly Sims 2 and 3 more. Sims 4 still have to many updates and whatever mod or cc you have don’t work and you have to wait until it is updated.
I saw someone say this once in a forum discussion about these three games: Players are literally gods in The Sims 2. Yes, the game is old and is starting to show in some aspects (no multitasking, no color wheel, no advanced AI that prevent some stupid behaviors, no complex tools like the ones to build, etc) but it has the most god-like feeling when you are playing with it. You can literally do anything! Wanna play with families you didn't create and interpret their stories as you like? You can do that! Prefer to completely create your own families and worlds? Or even a mix of the two? Yes, and yes! Maybe you like to let your Sims decide by themselves? Well, just follow their Wants and Fears! But if you don't like that, you can just do whatever you want with their lifes! The game is not too difficult like TS1 and isn't too easy like TS4. And maybe there's no color wheel, but you can create your own CC with Bodyshop and Homecrafter, it's easy (oh boy, how many ugly Sailor Moon tshirts I've created...). The game is so simple to "learn" but so complex at it's core. YOU decide how you wanna play. You aren't limited by the game in any way. You. Are. A. God. And THAT'S what's terribly missing from TS4.
I'm so happy I play sims 2 in 2020
Me too!!
Sims 4 is created by the modding community.
The video just started and the editing- We love a sight!🤩❤️
Lol. Thank you Miles! 💙
They took out so much from the sims in Sims 4. Trying to play it feels like I may as well have a Barbie playset where I have to pretend everything is happening... Actually, i take that back, my old dollhouse had more features🤦
Thank you so much for this in depth comparison! A walk down memory lane. Going to try to reinstall sims 2 and sims 3 now! So bored with the shallow gameplay of 4 - all I can do is build and cas, gameplay is nonexistent even with mods
I agree! And good luck with getting Sims 2 and Sims 3 going! If you have issues, we're happy to help in the Pleasant Sims Discord!
Yes! Sims 2/3 are some of the best games and you could play them for hours!
I have been playing the Sims 3 a lot during the summer and got some DLC I didn’t have. Ambitions is an awesome pack.
In my opinion, Veronaville is unmatched. It's a beautiful neighbourhood and all the premade families (lots and binned) have great backstories and drama (also, the memory system in Sims 2!! And the amount of lore these and the familiy pictures conveyed. Unreal.). I enjoy other Sims 2 neighbourhoods and some from Sims 3 (although I dont play that crashing hellscape a lot) - but Veronaville has been holding my heart from the first time I loaded he game.
And I'll never understand why do we have aspirations instead of lifetime wants. Maybe if the aspirations were good i would understand but they aren't.
I don't like the sims 4 and will never waste money on that game. The only thing I enjoy is building.
I wish I knew what they were thinking. I dislike the goal-based aspirations as well. Building is great, but it can't make up for the lack of gameplay.
I like the Sims 3 aspirations the best. Unfortunately even though you can choose the lifetime aspirations in Sims 2 (knowledge, popularity, love, wealth, family), the lifetime want is unfortunately completely randomised and non sensical. My knowledge oriented Sims always gets randomised to be a criminal in the Sims 2. To cheat that out is still random, you have to randomise over and over until you get the one you want. The Sims 3 aspirations and store rewards were really great!
Celfieparie For challenging definitely try The Sims 2. It’s the hardest one. For me it’s too random in terms of personality so I don’t get too invested in characters but the gameplay is dramatic so you might like that. It’s free at the moment also!
Ideally neither system would exist in the games. But, I think aspirations are better. As people age, their main goals in life often change. People don't generally devote their entire lives to one thing. Having a number of smaller goals, each with their own specific reward, is the better of the two options.
@@PoseurGoth but they have to be good, and in the sims 4 i don't think they are. Also the sims 2 has wishes and fears that helps you know what your sims want and don't want. But this is all subjective and every point of view is valid.
I love the looks of the Sims 4, how it runs, build mode etc. But I miss those unique life simulating traits from the Sims 2. And how I miss the build your own world and place your own lots option...
I’ve never actually played sims 2, started at sims 3 as a kid, went to sims 4 when it came out...coming back to sims 3 now that sims 4 is a hellscape :’)
I got the sims 4 when it was like $5 and I played for a little bit but was Very quickly like what do I do know?
I havent been back
Sims 2 on the other hand will never leave my heart
Absolutely loved this video. Specially how most of us might prefer TS2 or TS3 depending on our gameplay, but we all have major issues with TS4 🤣 Let me go get Nervous married with Pascal and adopt some kitties
I recently uploaded a current household video on my sims 4 game where I play all the townies, and I so agree. I never played the townies because it angered me so much that none of the stories were reflective in the relationships. I’ve tried to recreate all the lore in the sims 4 and it’s been a lot of fun! But it takes a lot of my own work to get it there, and I have to use my imagination to ad lib more where as in the previous games the sims did more of the ground work with the stories.
I've played all the games plus Sims 1, Sims Medieval, the Life Stories and even Sim Town from the 90's. IMHO the only game with staying power is the Sims 2. The Sims 3 has too many technical issues that make any length of play near impossible. The Sims 4 is a disaster that us Sims lovers try to prop up. The Sims 2 rules!
I agree Mary! The Sims 2 is still good 16 years later!
I love that when you load a premade family in the sims 2, things are already happening. Like you load in the Curious Brothers, Pascal is pregnant. And Vidcund just got abducted. Good luck! You just loaded the Pleasants? Your side piece is coming over now. Goths? Cassandra’s getting married to Don.