Yes, You Can Vacuum Form EVA Foam! (Part 2 Layering)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ธ.ค. 2021
- This is a follow-up video on vacuum forming EVA foam. I'll be demonstrating a simple, but very effective, layering technique that I use for costume building. I'll be working with EVA foam, HIPS, and ABS thermoplastics.
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Free Plans for 18" x 24" Vacuum Former:
propmonkeystudio.com/18x24Vac...
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Kevlar Gloves:
www.amazon.com/Contender-Heav...
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HIPS & ABS Thermoplastic Sheet (my local plastic supply company)
www.alliedplastic.org
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High Temperature Rubber Sheet (frame gasket liner)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
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EVA Foam:
tntcosplaysupply.com/ - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
TH-cam magic brought me here at 3:00am and i never even heard of vacuum forming before. That was beyond awesome
Thank you for this! Super cool. Also, thank you for leaving in the errors and learning portions. A young toddler that I take care of happened to be watching the video with me, and they’ve been struggling recently thinking that they need to be perfect at an activity before they can do it or enjoy it. It was incredibly valuable for them to see a professional encounter a problem and not be perfect, and that making mistakes is okay and normal and just part of the process. Great lessons on many levels :)
This is one of the best comments I have ever read.
Why is a toddler trying to be perfect?
I found the ability to reuse to EVA fascinating, also appreciated that you showed the temperatures you were working at.
This is just amazing! I can't believe how much detail shows even through the EVA foam. This is a game changer for making helmets without having visible seams everywhere.
Beautiful work, you are a genius! :)
Fantastic demo- so many applications beyond props/costuming. Thanks.
Awesome and inspiring. I have a Roman Patrician guard armour to make plus some more fantastical elements. I had not quite realized how much I want a vacuforming setup.
This rocks! I can't wait to put this to use. Thank you for the inspiration!
WOWOWOWOW this is AMAZING the detail looks PHENOMENAL IM SO SHOOK
Very good demonstration of vacuum molding. Thank you.
The ABS quality and detail is REALLY impressive. Nice one!
My dad always talks about his friends vacuum forming business from the 80s. Never really knew what all went into the art. Thanks
Thanks for the tip of covering the material while heating when the temps are cold out. I've struggled with getting a good heat in the corners of my plastic, and this excellent tip could be a game changer for me. Cheers!
Thank you so much for these videos. I was scrolling and found this video. I have to say, when I clicked I didn’t have high hopes but your style and teaching is amazing. I have so many ideas and will have to go back through your videos to learn.
That abs pull was impressive. Also big thanks for the vacformer plans.
TH-cam fairy and some 🌿 got me here. I'm starting to believe you could build the Titanic with a 3D printer and a vacuum former.
Thank you, For making a tutorial video. It was great and really helpful
That Looks great. Thanks for sharing this.
Love this video man! So informative!
I'll soon be moving from an apartment to a house with a garden, so I'll be able to use these techniques :D
Really cool! Thanks for sharing!
Fascinating!!! Thanks!
fantastic proof of concept
Very nice, very nice work!
This is really cool, I hade no idea that you could vacuum EVA... makes sense. 🤔👍
Well done getting that plug out.
Wow, that's so informative. It's a long way from everyone hiding their skills and methods of the past. 10 stars and a new sub for you.
Interesting, thanks for sharing the video. Cheers!
It’s really nice!
Super cool!
Awesome video! Hope you do more
We both said “wow” at the same time. 😂. Thank you so much fir this video. Just great!
😂
Thanks man, you are great!
Fascinating 😮
Brilliant 👏 👏
FYI Sometimes when I’m vacuum forming I will keep one or two heat guns handy so when I set the frame down on top if it seems the EVA is cooling down too much I just use both heat guns and then the details really suck down
That technique is great for the edges that cool down and resist forming around the object.
Love your videos!
Outstanding work
Great video. Thanks for sharing! Hope you're doing well!
Great video 👍
What an enjoyable and pleasant time! Thanks for your initiative. Subscribed! Oh, indeed;)
when the face melted back down into a flat pool like the T-1000...i subscribed!
muy bueno el video excelente idea felicitaciones
Literally like watching you do magic tricks over and over it is just so incredibly smart to do this I wish you were actually standing in front of me so I could come give you a pat on the back for making and sharing this video really really really really impressive sir
Nice project. And I like the black truck pic there
My first visit to your channel but I am very impressed with your creativity and your passion. As for the flightline thing... lol My wife and I live in the flightline of McCord airforce base.
Love the TH-cam alogrithm sometimes...wonderful video
Awesome idea….!
This is such a cool video! I really like your channel. :D
that is how I like sculpture!
great stuff, love your enthusiasm, +1 sub. Thanks for your time!
Great video
Great videp
Thank you, 👍 super
first time I see eva being used like this, very good, thanks for the video. For more complex parts, perhaps it would be interesting to preheat the mold as well? I thought that the thermal shock being smaller, more details can be obtained.
hugs from Brazil
awesome!
First time viewer. : )
Im at 19:30min and just woooWWWWW!
That looks amazing and has so many other application!
thanks from venezuela
Great!
fantastic . beautyfull tanks .
Game changer
Hot damn.. It works!
nice !
I don't even know what the videos about but I gave a like for the moustache bro.
that is awesome... ish
great video lol
You can make your vacuum table with a valve and an air evacuation pump with a compressor to pull the material down tighter that the vacuum alone
thanks
tutorial for the vaccum former would be sick!!
Great
Whats missing is the person that you took the mould off, is not trying on the caul.
Rad how strong that final coal really is.
Im looking to use your style on final product mechanical/automotive designs.
: )
I wonder if a wider table for your heat and vacuum would help you a little. instead of reaching the right handle (over the heat source) if it were rotated 90° you could grab both handles and move right to place on the vacuum. I'm thinking a 1/5 to 3/4" plywood would be enough just placed on top of the current table. although you'd have to check it for balance.
A bigger table would help 🙂
Amazing video thanks alot, what is the power of that vacuum machine you are using?
Also Have you tried thin lexan with any of your projects?
Thanks again for the informative video
Right now I'm using an old Dyson vacuum motor, but I've had good success with several home vacuum cleaners.
lexan: I haven't worked with that yet.
Love your videos. Do you mind telling me what it is that helps hold your plastic/Eva in place that you have lined along the inside of your frame.
Download the plans. I also talk about it in the 1st and 2nd video.
This is incredible I've been 3d printing props for the next ccon but this, this opens up so many possibilities for unibody pieces without seamwork using 3d printed parts to create the detailed work instead of eva for the second press. What is the maximum temperature for these items before they reform while wearing? Can I do a epoxie resin layer inside to hold shape?
The EVA foam and plastics in the video should be heat stable up to 200-300˚f.
Yes, resin layer inside to help hold shape should work fine, just prep the inside (sand or other methods) to make sure the resin sticks better.
I vote for a series called "Will it Vacuumform"
😅😂🤣
that mustache is perfect bro
Use an air compressor and spray/clean up nozzle that just shoots air. Stick it in and shoot air into mold to loosen
This is invaluable. Thank you!
I do have a question, though: can I use really thick (10-15mm) sheets of EVA for vacuum forming? My concern is, at that point it will be hard to heat it up evenly. Have you tried it?
Anything EVA foam over 10mm becomes extremely hard to form. You can do low depth pulls, but nothing with details.
My mind is racing with the possibilities. small details sandwiched between the foam that you can make on a 3d printer.
cool
What temp are you hearing the foam at? Sorry if I missed it
use an air compressor to blow it out, makes it alot easier to release it from the form.
Wow
Heeeeere's Johnny!
I haven't seen part 1 yet so if the answer is in that video I apologize. A Brother Scan N Cut can work with materials up to 3mm thick. You could design a cut file to make the precision cuts in advance so that when you load the cut EVA foam onto the form it will result in a ready made vacuum formed shape. Then you can use the cutter again to make the augmentations, glue them together to create the thickness you want. In the end things should look more professional with uniform quality. But how would you go about creating the cut file in 2D space so that it conforms to its new 3D shape after being vacuum formed?
This would not be possible. If you precut shape/slits into the foam or plastic you will not be able to vacuum form. The material must be airtight, or pretty close to airtight.
I've been dialing in this set up and I think it should be mentioned that the space heater is not of the greatest build quality. I was playing around with it and it didn't last two hours. I ended up doing some poking around the Q&A part of the Amazon listing and they said it was a common problem with just the power light working and nothing else. However, I did find an answer that said that it had in inline 15amp and that's what needs to be replaced and seems like an easy fix if you have some wiring know how (apparently this is the overheating safety feature that the listing crows about mightily.) I've ordered another and I'll probably have our family handyman have a look at it and maybe upgrade the fuse so I'm not constantly having to do returns or multiple purchases. All this said, I greatly appreciate the tutorial and all the instructions and I did consider maybe starting a new heat trough from scratch but I've already gone this far and I don't feel like switching horses, donchyaknow :)
The design of the heating unit may have changed from when I purchased mine. The breaker may need to be bypassed.
Some Stormtroopers are going to be really happy.
amazing video sir, can i know what foam is that head made of? the one you made from the cosplayer
I did a video on it. Go to: "Head Casting with Body Double SILK" - Casting the Head 41:35
Please make a full body size one for carbonite ;)
I like
Have you considered using the super shiny automotive wraps to layer on the masks?
I have not, but it sounds very interesting.
Question: I see on the vac table it's just a single opening instead of the peg board you usually see. Is that something specific to this method or is a single opening more efficient?
As long as the pattern has airflow around it then it will work, so only one hole is needed.
Are you able to form that in clear styrene so it can be painted or colorized from the inside leaving a flawlessly smooth finish? If you just want to leave it at that stage without the ABS! Does ABS come in clear or is there another material that can be used in the same way?
BTW I found this very informative and enjoyed it very much I am 63 and used to build props in my younger days now I do light mapping and special FX but still like to stay up on different techniques!
8:55 Blue ice is always better than yellow ice! 😂
Can you possibly drill tiny holes in the areas where you need more suction
I'm not sure if it would help that much. For holes to be meaningful they'll have to be large enough to make a difference, but then you will have hole dimples in the pull. The thickness of the plastic plays the biggest role in how much detail shows. Also I do have the eyes and nose holes open. For greater detail a reverse vacuum form works well, but much harder to make.
Its called Sintra.
For 501st and Mando Mercs
I've never herd of Sintra being used, but I'm not in the 501st. I have a friend who is in it, and there group requires ABS only, where other groups allow for any rigid plastic. Is your armor made of Sintra?
@@PropMonkeyStudio Honestly both groups use both materials, just depends on the costume in question. Granted with 3d printing so ubiquitous these days its nice to see the vac techniques still trying and doing new things.
Lots of costumers like Sintra but I am not sure Id vac form it. Its a PVC substrate (Expanded foamboard) and can offgas chlorine gas if it gets too hot. Id be concerned to get it at the right tem to vac form, youd be riding that line.
The 421st Legion don't have cosplay guidelines. Though they are hard to find. They were doing weddings and other events in Los Angeles when I was into photography I joined them the second time I saw them, I'm a proud member in the Los Angeles Squadron. Just saying...
Will it still work fine if you used a more traditional vacuum table top that has a bunch of tiny holes drilled out compared to the one big hole your table has?
Yes, it will still work. 👍
I miss my projects
Any specific knife or scissors to cut the sheet?
I use a utility knife to cut the plastic to size. You can score and snap the plastic. For cutting out the final shape I use a heavy duty scissor that I bought from Home Depot.
@@PropMonkeyStudio thank you
Man for a moment i thought your face shield was a door but then i red the logo.
wow
Abs even on 3mm thick is cutting very good with only métal sheet cisors you Can also use compressed air to blow in between or in a hole in one eye for exemple ... nice vidéo intresting technique anyway but please if you Can espacialy when you speak about détail making more close UP shots of you work it's hard to see in large view
Thanks for the tips 👍