Optometrist Imprisoned for Life for Cyberstalking Resulting in Death | Christine Belford Analysis

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  • @dissidentfairy4264
    @dissidentfairy4264 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +497

    And David and his parents were worried about Christine's mental health? Seriously?

    • @dissidentfairy4264
      @dissidentfairy4264 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      My guess is Christine's depression was due to overbearing and interfering in-laws and family who completely overwhelmed Christine to the point of psychological suffocation.

    • @purrple.shadows
      @purrple.shadows 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      David, his parents and his sister were criminals.

    • @patriciaR004
      @patriciaR004 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      The irony.

    • @victoriajohnson4420
      @victoriajohnson4420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well, clinically depressed people have trouble adequately taking care of themselves, let alone caring for the multiple needs of children. I understand true depression to be a chemical imbalance in the brain that affects a person's day to day life. If Christine were medically stabilized, she should be okay as a mom. If not, this is not an ideal situation. Clinical depression is far different than just being stressed or feeling sad.

    • @aprilkurtz1589
      @aprilkurtz1589 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@dissidentfairy4264 I think she had post partum depression.

  • @DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT
    @DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +463

    Sometimes being despicable, abusive, horrible human beings runs in families.

    • @Danuxsy
      @Danuxsy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's not their fault.

    • @kyleboulanger170
      @kyleboulanger170 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      The Boebert & Trump families are great examples of that.

    • @angelicatrino2498
      @angelicatrino2498 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Maybe that’s why she developed mental health problems. Dealing with that family will drive you crazy.

    • @kyleboulanger170
      @kyleboulanger170 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@angelicatrino2498 Trump also might be the reason his oldest child is a massive cokehead & his current wife never smiles.

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Reminds me of the "Adelson Crime Family Inc" in Florida.

  • @HarrietAsareO
    @HarrietAsareO 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +656

    The people we choose as spouses and their families are extremely important. What a horrible family. RIP Christine

    • @Dee_nyce
      @Dee_nyce 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      More importantly, who you have children with.

    • @Veracityseeker7
      @Veracityseeker7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Exactly

    • @Veracityseeker7
      @Veracityseeker7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Dee_nyceYup

    • @Koozomec
      @Koozomec 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Say it louder for people in the back.
      Still, it's easier to have s3x than it is to "know" really someone.

    • @HarrietAsareO
      @HarrietAsareO 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Dee_nyce so true! How stupid it was taking the kids out of the country to live in an RV. Dont think they even went to school at tha time. And the stress in the kids. Imagine your in-laws ganging up on you in the same house and your husband not standing up for you. All round sad and horrific situation

  • @catrymer7968
    @catrymer7968 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +250

    And Now the Children Have No Parents.

    • @maryrichardson6029
      @maryrichardson6029 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      And thats a bad thing

    • @holaizzy
      @holaizzy 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      With parents like the father they are lucky. Too bad their mother couldn't care for the children like she wanted. 😢

  • @TianXiaoMao
    @TianXiaoMao 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +472

    What an awful family to marry into. 😢

    • @laurah.7696
      @laurah.7696 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Yeah total chaos! How could people go so far?

    • @AnhNguyen-hn9vj
      @AnhNguyen-hn9vj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      the entire family is messed up.

    • @femalejaysfan
      @femalejaysfan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      did he say the mother's name is manure?

    • @chakko007
      @chakko007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Total nutjobs. Another shining example of people who don't have any control over their emotions.

    • @Cerbera66
      @Cerbera66 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@femalejaysfan that is what I understood too 🤣 suitable name

  • @PuriGorotta
    @PuriGorotta 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +671

    What were they hoping to accomplish? The only thing that resulted from this was the children losing both parents.

    • @tara_ble1705
      @tara_ble1705 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      Isn’t that always the case?? I don’t see how anyone can think murder is a better option than just trying to get along. They always get caught.

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Christine destroyed her family twice, she tried to separate a dad from his kids while still using him as an ATM machine.
      I do feel sorry for the kids, victims of yet another divorce war.

    • @Snakesnarl
      @Snakesnarl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

      It wasn’t about the kids to him. It was just about hurting Christine

    • @TrashK1ngg
      @TrashK1ngg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      crazy people don't think

    • @victoriajohnson4420
      @victoriajohnson4420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you read the "information" on their website, they apparently believed that Christine was sexually abusing her children, as well as literally putting their lives in danger. In their minds, what they hoped to achieve was protecting the children from their sick, twisted, predatory mother. Many of us would understand people who wanted to protect young children, and applaud their actions.

  • @esteemedmortal5917
    @esteemedmortal5917 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +606

    Sounds like justice to me. Arrogant and callous thinking that if Christine were dead, they could just mosey up and take custody. They didn’t give a shit about those kids. This was about ‘winning’. Truly despicable and I’m glad they were jailed for life.

    • @victoriajohnson4420
      @victoriajohnson4420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Although I am glad that they are in prison, I do believe that what they cared about was the kids. I think that they truly believed that Christine was a monster who was sexually abusing the innocent children. Taking custody of them and keeping them safe in a loving game was their goal. I do think that they were delusional, though.

    • @esteemedmortal5917
      @esteemedmortal5917 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @@victoriajohnson4420 if they had proof that was happening or even credible reports of it, they’d have taken it to the court.

    • @Callidus7SSM
      @Callidus7SSM 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Exactly! This is why I can’t understand how anyone could think of their sentences as an overreach

    • @Grundlesweat
      @Grundlesweat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How? The sick fuck of a father, who actually committed the murders, ended his own life, and the old bint of a mother died before going to prison

    • @HickoryBritches
      @HickoryBritches 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@victoriajohnson4420I think you're nutty and delusional!😂

  • @lindas5964
    @lindas5964 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +446

    In-laws from hell. No wonder she was depressed. And because of the kids, forever trapped in their web.

    • @sarah2.017
      @sarah2.017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      The dad was an ex-cop! Bet he was the type who was fired because he was too violent.

    • @Farcehole
      @Farcehole 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Why are so many parents such horrible people? You’d think they’d want the best for the kids.

    • @RickStein-i9o
      @RickStein-i9o 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Farceholebecause humans are wretched thing's, myself and you included.

    • @SorrowAvenue
      @SorrowAvenue 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sarah2.017 Acab.

    • @SorrowAvenue
      @SorrowAvenue 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Farcehole Stop breeding like feral rabbits.

  • @tara_ble1705
    @tara_ble1705 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +312

    Seems to me they were actually wanting to kidnap and torture Christine if they had gotten the opportunity. This is a scary family.

  • @Maria-sg4zy
    @Maria-sg4zy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

    I can't even imagine my in-laws, getting so involved in my marriage that they would do something so horrible as this. This family is crazy. They didn't care about the kids, they just didn't like the ideal of losing. How a whole family crazy like this?

    • @twiceshy9773
      @twiceshy9773 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      They bolster each other and turn on the "intruder" instead...and lol hell yes, I would NEVER live with my inlaws...or marry a mommy's boy!!

    • @theskeletonsskeletons9495
      @theskeletonsskeletons9495 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Satan. Lol jk...or maybe not...

    • @sharonhoyt2133
      @sharonhoyt2133 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Hope the kids grow up okay and don't take after the father and grandparents.

    • @theskeletonsskeletons9495
      @theskeletonsskeletons9495 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sharonhoyt2133 or go Kill Bill on the other fam...indeed, those ppl did mu***r the kids' mother.

    • @LilyFlowers-hh3sc
      @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@twiceshy9773 good call. I married one and his mother got angry at me after he was arrested for domestic abuse and false imprisonment. I ran away from home a few months later with two suit cases and my cat.

  • @sarah2.017
    @sarah2.017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    I saw an Oxygen program about this. The oldest child was 5 years old when she "went to Disneyland", and 8 years old when she and her siblings were found in Nicaragua. (Their older half-sister lived with her father, Christine's first husband.) This child weighed THIRTY POUNDS LESS when she was found than she did when she left! She had to be treated for malnutrition, among other things.
    The sister's dad applied for custody of the children, but was denied, and they went into foster care. Because they still aren't all adults, their whereabouts cannot be revealed.
    One also wonders what kind of optometrist this guy was!

    • @michaelinhouston9086
      @michaelinhouston9086 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      As I looked into this case a few years back, the children were not in foster care, one of Christine's family members was able to get custody. Incredibly, the guy's sister is still trying tricks to find out where the children are - I think so she can try and manipulate them to help get their sentences reduced from life.

    • @supernova11711
      @supernova11711 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelinhouston9086Wow!!!

    • @supernova11711
      @supernova11711 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That’s really an incredible thing the sisters dad was trying to do. He wanted his daughter to be with her siblings so was willing to take on additional children just so they could all be together. He seems like a good man or at least…a whole lot better than her second choice!

    • @christinelee4780
      @christinelee4780 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      While we don't know what happened with the first husband, the second husband was not an improvement

  • @dianalilley4910
    @dianalilley4910 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +160

    Christine had no idea of the family dynamics she was marrying into. No compassion was shown to her by her husband or in-laws in respect of her mental health. They had only hatred in their hearts . The selfish actions of one family have caused heartbreak and loss to those poor children. Thank you Dr Grande for your critical analysis of this exceptionally tragic case.

    • @mirandaadmiri5555
      @mirandaadmiri5555 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This happens so much even to this day it’s awful what happens to parents that really try and want their babies this happened to me, and I just allow 50/50 even tho the dad is absent bc I don’t want to be killed

    • @sharonhoyt2133
      @sharonhoyt2133 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I suspect the mental health problems were caused by her husband in the first place.

    • @Koozomec
      @Koozomec 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's the price to pay to make life changing decisions on emotion.
      We can't ignore deal breakers in romance or... you see.

    • @maryellengodfrey
      @maryellengodfrey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Amen - as Mothers we must learn about Narcissism. Stop the fact that Society embraces Narcissism at times. They think they can do this. Anti - heart - soulless nonsense.😢

  • @heloramos82
    @heloramos82 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    What a horrible family to marry in to! No wonder she was depressed!

  • @elizabethhamm5320
    @elizabethhamm5320 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +237

    Poor Christine. Her children were ripped away from her and she was harassed for years before she was gunned down like a rabid animal. So tragic. I hope her children are okay

    • @spazmonkey3815
      @spazmonkey3815 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      They will not be ,besides the trauma ,they have David's genes.

    • @ns4725
      @ns4725 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She probably started it. Maliciously keeping the kids from the family.

    • @TheDramacist
      @TheDramacist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Victim blaming much ​@@ns4725?
      Those poor kids got some trash genetics and seen some of humanity's worse examples. They aren't likely to do well, sadly.

    • @deeanna8448
      @deeanna8448 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      ​@@ns4725did you listen to the video? She did no such thing. They had joint custody and she readily agreed to him taking the kids to Disney World. She only sought to terminate his rights after he literally kidnapped them and took them to another continent. He was no victim

    • @loki2240
      @loki2240 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      They're very likely to have serious problems. My mother's cousin adopted a boy and a girl, after their father murdered their mother. She provided a loving, supportive home for them with her two biological children. But the boy has struggled with substance abuse in adulthood. You can't just love some things away. And substance abuse or not, they'll still suffer from the trauma of their father murdering their mother. Can you imagine being reminded of that, every time someone (or something) mentions a father or a mother?

  • @beautifulsunset4071
    @beautifulsunset4071 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    The level of stalking by this family is scary and bizarre. And all they went thru to terrorize and murder her, not to mention the friend who was there for her at court too! So sad.

    • @edelweiss2.076
      @edelweiss2.076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sounds like none of them worked for a living.

  • @TheRheverend
    @TheRheverend 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    At this point it’s no longer about the kids. It’s about winning no matter what. They didn’t care who got the kids as long as she didn’t

    • @supernova11711
      @supernova11711 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Exactly! And the worst part is that she was being more than fair! Most fathers would be over the moon with a half and half shared custody agreement. She was never trying to keep his kids away from him or use them as leverage. She seemed like a good person and it just seems so cruel that she ended up with a man (and family in-law) like this!

  • @montalineberger4743
    @montalineberger4743 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    Poor Christine. Having had to deal with depression myself I can't even imagine having to go through all that malice for years. What a horrible family to marry into!

  • @gabitrindade4607
    @gabitrindade4607 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Looks like justice has been served. Bullies needs to be held accountable and a clear message needs to be sent to those who bully. Enough being the “bigger person” and forgiving. The poor children lost their mother in a horrible way.

    • @flapjack413
      @flapjack413 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Has it though? Mom is in the dirt, dad is in prison, and those kids have no parents anymore. I don't think there were any winners or any justice in this one.

    • @redefinedliving5974
      @redefinedliving5974 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Being the bigger person deprives the bullies the accountability. Religion is huge part of the problem

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Please can you analyse the case of Maureen Ingleston who has followed Dr Grande for YEARS and cannot wrap her head around how crazy and heartbreaking these cases can be.???

    • @ErikaJadeLives
      @ErikaJadeLives 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😂😂

    • @mayaa3648
      @mayaa3648 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      😭😭

    • @pbonney
      @pbonney 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      You might want to stop following these cases if they begin to affect you negatively. I know it’s hard but these cases will always be there. Try to limit your exposure to them.❤❤

    • @chongkweeyan6314
      @chongkweeyan6314 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Stay happy and healthy maureen, cest la vie 😉

    • @sharonhoyt2133
      @sharonhoyt2133 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The fact that you don't understand the crazy people's thinking and actions means your just fine.

  • @janegerard5604
    @janegerard5604 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Absolutely appalling that people who professed to love those children would treat their mother in such a despicable way, I doubt they were/are capable of loving anyone, they have now left these poor children parentless.

  • @GalileoFigar0
    @GalileoFigar0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    0:56 You just said "New Jersey" without the addition of a disparaging remark. Everything OK?

    • @jkjives1786
      @jkjives1786 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I didn't even notice that. I hope he's not having health issues! 😊

    • @emilyburton4095
      @emilyburton4095 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@jkjives1786 We can only speculate...

    • @watermelonwishes4193
      @watermelonwishes4193 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I noticed that too...🤨🤨🤨😮😮😮

    • @jkjives1786
      @jkjives1786 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@emilyburton4095 Looking first at the inculpatory factors, this is the only time he has missed an opportunity to disparage NJ.

    • @atticstattic
      @atticstattic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There are few things more disparaging than "New Jersey"

  • @MegaLivingIt
    @MegaLivingIt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    So it seems David and his family were the real crazy ones and Christine just had depression. No wonder.🌿

  • @littleeva
    @littleeva 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    That is one evil and co dependent family. David and Amy sound like overgrown babies who needed mommy and daddy to help them. Sick, sick, may they both rot in jail forever.

  • @margolucas3793
    @margolucas3793 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Dr. Grande, please include information about what happened to the children if possible. My heart always goes out to the poor innocent children!

    • @sarah2.017
      @sarah2.017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      The children's whereabouts cannot be disclosed, because at least one of them is still a minor. An Oxygen program said that they were placed in foster care, even though their oldest sister's biological father (Christine's first husband, from whom her divorce was amicable) tried to get custody of them and was denied.

    • @aprilkurtz1589
      @aprilkurtz1589 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      My heart goes out to poor innocent Christine and her innocent friend.

  • @JohnGlen502
    @JohnGlen502 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Unbelievable - these sick people encouraged each other to do all the wrong things. Why did he have to kill the friend too?

    • @shameronstar7220
      @shameronstar7220 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She was in the wrong place at the wrong time?

    • @sarah2.017
      @sarah2.017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He wanted to eliminate witnesses.

    • @FlopSter-i1o
      @FlopSter-i1o 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sarah2.017 Hard to do in a public building.

    • @FlopSter-i1o
      @FlopSter-i1o 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Collateral damage.

  • @Hatbox948
    @Hatbox948 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    This reminds me of the two missing women incident going on in Oklahoma right now.

  • @sactopyrshep
    @sactopyrshep 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I love this man’s voice. His low-key and deadpan, matter-of-fact delivery just draws me in. No wonder he has over a millionn followers.

    • @elguero933
      @elguero933 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He is my favorite nerd ever

    • @FlopSter-i1o
      @FlopSter-i1o 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He's very matter-of-fact and knowledgeable. He uses science and logic but throws in witty comments to keep viewers engaged.

  • @weird_law
    @weird_law 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    There's something about premanufactured-looking, ranch-style homes that seems to breed criminality. I don't know why, but after watching tons of true crime content, I feel like I've seen this house or versions of it as the setting for at least 500 crimes.

    • @evelynwells-rk1ed
      @evelynwells-rk1ed 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds a lot like Kenny Veach Case.

    • @jenniferthompson6280
      @jenniferthompson6280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂

    • @reavanante2160
      @reavanante2160 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is this another version of trailer (discarded wrappers) ? Millions will thank you for creating an even more hostile environment for them. Like all of suburbia everywhere. Why not just call a moratorium on all hue amenities till there is only 2 percent left?

  • @madelainepetrin1430
    @madelainepetrin1430 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    That poor woman! How horrible what they did to her.!

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Imagine going to college for a decade to get to be an Optometrist and throwing it all away in some horrible cyberstalking case. Pity.

    • @user-xg3tp9rw4j
      @user-xg3tp9rw4j 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      my thoughts exactly! imagine leaving your practice to live in a trailer in foreign country.

  • @GH-oi2jf
    @GH-oi2jf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    The irony is that the father had joint custody but wasn't satisfied with that. It is best for all when the parents get along like civilized people, and share responsibilities for the children, even though divorced. Joint custody is a good deal for a father. He is truly nuts.

    • @disappear_here82
      @disappear_here82 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Right?! I was thinking this too. He escalated this beyond extreme. It's absolutely insane...

    • @kevinc809
      @kevinc809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a good deal for the father? Unless the mother is terrible. If you haven't noticed just by looking in your own area there are a lot of very very bad mothers "raising" children these days. Just look at how screwed up and disturbed so many kids are today. there is a reason for that.

    • @lenitaa7938
      @lenitaa7938 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@kevinc809Not relevant to this case!

    • @brendakabanda2181
      @brendakabanda2181 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@kevinc809 It is irrelevant to this case. We can clearly see who was the bad parent here. He should have never had custody of the children but rather instead supervised visits. The entire family was evil.

    • @kevinc809
      @kevinc809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brendakabanda2181 Can you clearly see? We only know the spin in which Grande got his info from. She could have been a terrible parent for all we know. I look at his comments and most are a reflection of the persepective in which he tells the story. But my little issue was how the comment was worded " joint custody is a good dead for a father". Kinda sexist no? And like I said it's not a "good deal" if the mother is terrible. Face the truth girls, terrible mothers are everywhere and becoming more common every day.

  • @furlycee
    @furlycee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    That family is insane. And ironically they fought so hard for the kids but were the worse thing for them: they abducted them, terrorized them, and took their mother away. The whole family should never get out of prison. I am so happy Justice was carried out in this case.
    I feel so awful for Christine I’d have mental health problems too having people like them in my life.

  • @KayBacci
    @KayBacci 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Absolutely appalling crimes against Christine and her children. I hope the children are now safe and loved.

    • @edelweiss2.076
      @edelweiss2.076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me, too. Those kids deserve the world. At least they know that their mother loved them very much.

  • @nsjet13
    @nsjet13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Sometimes family can be your worst enemies. Blood is not always thicker than water.

    • @Andreamom001
      @Andreamom001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      In this case, blood was thicker…the whole family banded together to murder a non-relative.

    • @Stubbornclarity
      @Stubbornclarity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You've got that right!!! 😢

    • @margodphd
      @margodphd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The saying is literally that the blood of the covenant is thicker than water if the womb...

    • @ImNotaRussianBot
      @ImNotaRussianBot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Andreamom001 Also, they were thick. Thick as thieves and thick as dumb.
      What kind of moron throws away his entire career and life to "win." Cause it was never about the kids, the kids were just chess pieces.

    • @ImNotaRussianBot
      @ImNotaRussianBot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@margodphdI've given up trying to explain in the comments that the saying is the direct opposite in meaning and intention from the fragment of the quote that is constantly being misused.
      Same for saying THE Ukraine (Ukraine literally translates to The Border or The Edge, so you're saying the the border).
      The other one is the absolute gimmicky bullshit that the polygraph test is. It tests people's gullibility, that's all. This was a contention of mine before we all discovered Dr. Grande's channel.

  • @petegallows5494
    @petegallows5494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    ...so they claimed she was supposed to be the one with mental health issues..? Wow..Poor lady, her friend and children. Also what's the point of running away to Nicaragua, just to live there in an RV?

  • @venderstrat
    @venderstrat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Some say that he fell into a lens grinding machine and made a real spectacle of himself,

    • @Gallop4Me
      @Gallop4Me 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good one😂😂😂

    • @HenriNoddnsock-xd7jw
      @HenriNoddnsock-xd7jw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good one! You're cracking me up!

    • @RoseNZieg
      @RoseNZieg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      joke of the year!

    • @edelweiss2.076
      @edelweiss2.076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm guilty of laughing at that. Then I remembered those poor children.

  • @pamsauder668
    @pamsauder668 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    Why was the mom allowed to do this from Prison 😂

    • @watermelonwishes4193
      @watermelonwishes4193 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I'm wondering that myself. 🤔🤨🤨🤨

    • @sarah2.017
      @sarah2.017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She probably wasn't giving sexual favors to the guards, that's for sure.

    • @DelmiraVesna
      @DelmiraVesna 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Absolutely insane! One would think those government idiots check what imprisoned people do on social media!!

    • @Pussaychop
      @Pussaychop 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh, rest assured she likely f’d up one of the very few rights they had there - not to mention the damage to her mom of the year candidacy…

    • @enjoystraveling
      @enjoystraveling 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree, I don’t know why people in prison are even allowed to use social media. They are in prison.!!

  • @Stubbornclarity
    @Stubbornclarity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I'm being cyberstalked. Its terrifying and depressing 😢. No wonder she was so depressed. I feel depressed too. My husband tried to drown me in the bathtub, accusations,exposing secrets. Its horrible. Poor Kristine. This is proof that gangstalking is real. 😢. Rest in Peace Kristine.

    • @PrincessCashmonie
      @PrincessCashmonie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Who cares what people say about you? You know it’s not true. It’s to make you upset and angry. F the mind games.

    • @camellia8625
      @camellia8625 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “My husband tried to drown me in a bathtub……..”
      Hope you are no longer married!

    • @FerociousPancake888
      @FerociousPancake888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      New phone, move, and don’t use social media at all. It’s incredible how hard people think it is nowadays to go without social media but it’s really not hard. Make yourself untraceable.

  • @wildmountainthyme4123
    @wildmountainthyme4123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is absolutely heartbreaking. I live in Delaware and never heard about this case. May Christine rest in peace. I feel that justice was served.

  • @yarnpower
    @yarnpower 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    What a family of cruel, selfish people.
    I hope the kids are okay.

  • @anneyoung2310
    @anneyoung2310 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Cybercrime needs to be exposed and penalized before the victim dies. A lot of us are dealing with this type of stalking and it is very difficult to expose and prosecute the perpetrators.
    Expose the deeds of darkness, in Jesus name.

    • @Stubbornclarity
      @Stubbornclarity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is happening to me😢. Every day I live in fear that either he or his family members will escalate to murder. He's put spyware on my devices.😢. If I want to go anywhere I have to drain the batteries. It's not taken seriously enough by the cops until something like this happens. I see you are a fellow believer in Jesus Christ. Love to you. Please pray for me. The situation I'm in is rapidly escalating.😢

    • @anneyoung2310
      @anneyoung2310 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Stubbornclarity I 'm saying a prayer for you. Those of us being cyber-stalked, hacked and surveilled will never understand why it wasn't exposed and penalized immediately. These crimes must be taken more serously by culture, as it is happening more and more.

    • @Stubbornclarity
      @Stubbornclarity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anneyoung2310 Thanks so much. I can use all of the prayers I can get. Thank you again and God bless you 💛

  • @clarissa8477
    @clarissa8477 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Even if Christine was dead, David’s parental rights were still terminated so he wouldn’t have gotten custody anyways. I guess they were hoping his sister would get the kids, but it would be insane to think that would ever happen. The delusions that went into this crime are wild. It’s crazy that all four of these grown adults thought it was a good plan.

  • @supersonicdevin3212
    @supersonicdevin3212 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for your analysis Dr. Grande.

  • @stt5v2002
    @stt5v2002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Custody disputes can be a dangerous situation.

    • @sarah2.017
      @sarah2.017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they're legitimate, that's one thing, but if they're just wanting to do terrible things to each other because they can, that's another story. I'm curious as to where David's parents got all their money. David certainly didn't have any, because he also had addiction issues.

  • @javierromero6858
    @javierromero6858 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    This one I disagree with Dr. The sister said “I’m in the plan” the moment she asked for custody of the kids. Staying in Texas and asking this was her part in the plan. The level of toxicity in that family is colossal. They should be locked up.

  • @Goldiegirl2009
    @Goldiegirl2009 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This happened near me and we were all shocked when it happened. I felt so horrible for Christine and her neighbor friend Laura who only went with Christine to give her support from her monster ex and in laws. I was not one who thought that it was an over reach. I wanted all three of them to get life without parole. Too bad Lenore didn’t get to serve much time but I’m sure she’s in a very hot place now. I feel bad for Laura because she gets forgotten in this case because she’s not directly related to the custody and was only there to help her friend. RIP to Christine and Laura.

  • @edelweiss2.076
    @edelweiss2.076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Christine married into a family of criminals. She didn't stand a chance with those nutjobs. Those poor children. I hope they are in a loving family now.

  • @hopeausbyn1734
    @hopeausbyn1734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Somewhat similar occurrance in Vegas this month. Granddad was terminally ill with Cancer, and killed his Son's ex-wife and her current husband during a child custody hearing, as this Granddad was also his son's Attorney. Son was reported to have been sending ex-wife threats for 2 years.

    • @FlopSter-i1o
      @FlopSter-i1o 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hope he was disbarred at the very least.

    • @hopeausbyn1734
      @hopeausbyn1734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FlopSter-i1oGranddad offed himself that same day in that same building.

    • @hopeausbyn1734
      @hopeausbyn1734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FlopSter-i1oTerminal Granddad killed himself the same day.

  • @linsioux217
    @linsioux217 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) - A girl whose mother was shot to death by the child’s grandfather at a Delaware courthouse testified Monday that she had never been sexually abused by her mother, had an “awesome” relationship with her - and was not surprised when she was killed.
    The 13-year-old testified for about 40 minutes behind closed doors in federal court against her father, former optometrist David Matusiewicz; her grandmother, Lenore Matusiewicz; and her aunt, Amy Gonzalez.

  • @joettekanter7699
    @joettekanter7699 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for covering this case Dr. G! There’s only one word for this story; SAD! My heart goes out to the children! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @wtsnxt-kari509
    @wtsnxt-kari509 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I found this a excellent biography! It's so refreshing to have a actual person doing narration and our narrater did a great job. I also appreciate that you did not keep showing the same pictures over and over. With so many AI that incorrectly pronounce commonly known names!

  • @dorbie
    @dorbie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Poor kids. That family really went out of their way to prove that the courts made exactly the right decisions keeping them away from those children.

  • @brick6347
    @brick6347 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Dr Grande's knowledge of "fishing rods" makes me think he's got an awful lot of "fishing rods" around the house. Safely kept, obviously! I sure wouldn't want to be his stalker!

    • @hannahb8689
      @hannahb8689 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha you’re right he sure does, he’s talked about it before

  • @Azulakayes
    @Azulakayes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There should be consequences to cyber stalking and cyber bullying!

  • @marilynmccormick1658
    @marilynmccormick1658 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My son married a woman who was emotionally & pyhsically abusive to him. He could never get police help. Unfortunately he died in an accident before she was finally brought to justice for abusing their daughter who was a teenager by then. She lost custody and it did my heart good to sit in the courtroom and hear the judge finally sentence her. I felt like my son had justice at last. I'm so glad these people did not get custody of the Children.Sometimes sideways justice is the best you get.

  • @jhern083
    @jhern083 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Justice was served, but fuck this is tragic for the kids. Lost mom, dad, aunt, and grandparents all in one senseless act.

    • @frevazz3364
      @frevazz3364 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hope the kids are getting the emotional support they need after suffering thru this.

    • @edelweiss2.076
      @edelweiss2.076 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All they lost was their loving mother.

  • @olivianino8824
    @olivianino8824 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This case reminds me of the recent murders of Ashley and Dennis Prince in Las Vegas. Ashley was engaged in a contentious custody case with her ex-husband, Dylan Houston. At a deposition for the case, her ex-father in law, Joe Houston, shot the Princes before killing himself. It would be a compelling video.

  • @AndyColglazier
    @AndyColglazier 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    What a bizarre and toxic family.

  • @marsvsvenus6256
    @marsvsvenus6256 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would say that I agree with your analysis. It is regrettable that there was no one within the family unit to change the course of events. They were cooperative and conrtibuted in the children not having any parents in their life. The problem with victims is that they are not believed when their concerns are voiced due to the rareness of such circumstances. She had a friend who supported her to the end. It takes courage to be a true friend. I hope that the friend's family count her as a hero doing what she needed to do to support a friend she loved.

  • @bellyarty
    @bellyarty 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Poor children 😢

  • @momof1576
    @momof1576 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If I was living with those jerks I’d be depressed too.

  • @Invisible_Socks
    @Invisible_Socks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So sad for those kids

  • @voyaristika5673
    @voyaristika5673 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    An entire family that sick and twisted? Spooky. I wonder what David's first wife felt when this happened. Had she always wondered if she dodged a bullet but got out in time? 3 children. Hope they grow up ok.

  • @elizabethwarman9028
    @elizabethwarman9028 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Dr. Grande, excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos. This case is a great example of "The best laid plans of Mice and Men often go aray ".

  • @ColinoSpasm
    @ColinoSpasm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3 children to grow up without parents full of trauma. Outstanding.

  • @mario-qi3yw
    @mario-qi3yw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you Dr Grande for speculating on this case. I’ve not heard many of them so I feel lucky to hear about them through you, Dr Grande.😊

  • @eddo1983
    @eddo1983 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    If you're willing to murder over the custody of children then you are a horrible human being.

    • @imbatman8472
      @imbatman8472 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you wouldn't kill for your kids?

    • @jb-xc4oh
      @jb-xc4oh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People routinely commit murder for far less than that. Yeah, there are a lot of rotten people in this world, makes you wonder.

  • @Sikanda.
    @Sikanda. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What a bunch of narcissistic sociopaths! Christine was the only sane and good person in that crazy family. Cruel and tragic end for a mother who only wished for a better life for her children.

  • @SarahDunlap
    @SarahDunlap 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    On vacation but had to pop in the catch up with Dr Grande.

  • @everythingbobbywolfe
    @everythingbobbywolfe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finally, there's a modicum of hope toward stopping cyber stalking or at least making people responsible for actions.

  • @jboz1435
    @jboz1435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Didn’t see this coming

  • @Kuulei265
    @Kuulei265 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The more I hear stories of these nightmare in-laws, the more I thank God for my husband’s parents. I didn’t think of them as in-laws, they actually introduced me to their son, who became my husband. I just knew them as these super sweet couple who knew I was going through a tough time. I had a daughter from a previous relationship, and they NEVER made a difference between the grandchildren. What they gave to their other grandchildren, they gave to my daughter. My husband I have a son together, and I feel so blessed to have them in my life. They have passed on, and I miss them like crazy.

  • @lynnettecapozio7327
    @lynnettecapozio7327 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks so much for posting another video... a great way to start my evening 🤩

  • @p52893
    @p52893 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    In life trust no one, save your trust for Dog and God.

    • @FifiR3
      @FifiR3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Save your trust for Dog and God" is the perfect phrase for what Ive always believed, thank you. ❤

    • @Stubbornclarity
      @Stubbornclarity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you,I learned that the hard way 😢.

    • @tanikokishimoto1604
      @tanikokishimoto1604 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Actually... I trust my cat.

    • @jb-xc4oh
      @jb-xc4oh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The only person I trust in this life is me.

  • @eliranamar8497
    @eliranamar8497 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite part is when you list qualities…he was antagonistic paranoid aggressive…and on and on 😂😂😂😂 i loveeee it

  • @annechong4950
    @annechong4950 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The law should also have that for those involved in extra marital affairs... if any body connected to the affair partners dies/murdered due to the affair ...the couple should be charged.

  • @AmberU
    @AmberU 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    And now none of them have access to the children as they shouldn’t, so they terrorized this woman ended her life all for nothing! The children were adopted out when I saw this story.

  • @TheDramacist
    @TheDramacist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Those kids dont stand a chance with such lowly cretins in their lives. The damage is done. How did they think this crime would result in them ever getting custody? How was Thomas so invested, he was on a kamikaze mission?

  • @megatherion2695
    @megatherion2695 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Interesting case, Doc. Thanks! 👍

  • @icturner23
    @icturner23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Damn, this runaway father of three really makes yesterday’s seem like a model citizen.
    But they’re both very unusual and interesting cases that I’d never heard of before. Thanks for sharing them with us.

  • @gregorybush3224
    @gregorybush3224 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is sooo funny. One of the pop up ads for Dr Grande's video featured the state of......... New Jersey 😅😅😅

  • @concettaworkman5895
    @concettaworkman5895 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It was a conspiracy. These laws already exist. Conspiracy is not a theory, by definition, it is a crime.

  • @Occult_Detective
    @Occult_Detective 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    How about analyzing those ladies, the blond twins, that kept trying to get hit by cars on the highway… even after the medical response and police had arrived…

    • @shojinryori
      @shojinryori 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He did! th-cam.com/video/ntM_lJtnvxc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mbvw8qhcIfIWCAPm

  • @tdesq.2463
    @tdesq.2463 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like a perfectly reasonable application of the Felony-Murder Rule. Good work by the Prosecution.
    And well presented here, Doctor Grande.
    Thank You!
    ~TD, Boston

  • @Spiritueli
    @Spiritueli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    omg ... such a sad story, what evil they are made of ... so important to know who are you marrying, in great details

  • @jackedkerouac4414
    @jackedkerouac4414 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was going to say I never heard of cyberstalking resulting in death. Interesting.

  • @robbiedolan340
    @robbiedolan340 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Didn't see that coming

    • @williamsn411
      @williamsn411 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I see what you did there.

    • @heloramos82
      @heloramos82 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂

  • @Pussaychop
    @Pussaychop 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If its a choice between my mother and ‘Justice’, i’d rather have my mom. -Camus

  • @glendasully
    @glendasully 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dr. Grande, I'm disappointed that you didn't follow up New Jersey with your usual sarcasm

  • @ilikethebills1087
    @ilikethebills1087 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love your videos. On 1.5x speed lol. I understand why you speak so purposefully and calmly just rippin on you a bit.

  • @GuarDeannAngel
    @GuarDeannAngel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I am on vacation with my dh in Gatlinburg, just ordered and are awaiting our food. Suddenly, i see the notification and exclaim a wee bit heartily, "Yay, it's Dr. Grande!" 😊

  • @karenfisher4170
    @karenfisher4170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The entire family was out to destroy her in every possible way.

  • @bthomson
    @bthomson 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Here we go!

  • @hmng_brd
    @hmng_brd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos - precise, concise, and insightful!

  • @daveatkins3568
    @daveatkins3568 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It’s like you read my mind doc. Spot on in my book 😎✌🏻

  • @dr.sammypryor
    @dr.sammypryor 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was cyberstalked for years. My ex and his mother treated me the same way these people treated Christine. It was horrible!

  • @DebraSuttondls
    @DebraSuttondls 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a horrible family. They are all guilty.

  • @lindamuncy6308
    @lindamuncy6308 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoyed this video, liked it and I’m a subscriber. Thanks Dr. Grande!

  • @a.walters123
    @a.walters123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What an absolutely selfish, awful family. They’d rather those children grow up without any parents, in foster care, than allow them to grow up with their mother half of the time. All of those people are exactly where they should be right now.

  • @JDoe001
    @JDoe001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It seems that a lot of times (certainly not all the time), when people talk about other people who really saying things that is true of themselves).