It would make up for a lot of the shortcomings that my A6600 has, then I'd still have a use for my lens collection for Sony APSC. It's incredibly tempting.
I haven’t directly compared them. But from what I have seen the Fuji likely has better image quality. It’s stacked sensor is remarkable. Plus the features you mentioned like ProRes and 6K. However FX30 definitely has better AF performance and has an excellent design for video work.
@@TomWhitchurch According to Gerald Undone's test, with some noise reduction applied in post, the FX30 is still behind the XH2S by about 1 whole stop. The XH2S is around 14.6 stops, but the FX30 peaks at around 13ish.
@@professionalpotato4764 From using both separately that sounds about right. The X-H2s is a very impressive camera. But this is still very respectable dynamic range performance.
what I need is advice here, I have stared a channel here and I am looking for Sony fx30 or the a6700 why I personally want to go for FX30 is that I will get cinema line camera, video quality will be awesome for viewers, can record in log, full size hdmi if I want to make a rig of it, and its professional. a6700 if I go for, it comes with a lens (but can I use that lens for my TH-cam videos?) it has the same sensor as FX30 dealbreaker: mini Hdmi port, one card slot, over heating issues. fx30 here is more reliable. and I want my videos to come out like movies after color grading them. thats all.
Greta video!!I totally agree with your final thoughts I got the A6300 that I used for 4 years and just died technically this summer. I was lucky I upgraded to the A7IV last winter so, I still got APSC lenses that'd be great in case I get this camera as B camera at some point one day. Sony has giving us a great camera for an affordable price for newbies and everyone else looking to add this one to their gear kit.
Did you „work” with your a6300 or just a hobby photographer? I want to buy the a6400 but I wonder if it will manage simple client work. In case I earn any money move on to a FF a7III or the IV
@@Staaachuuuu I did indeed!!!It was the only camera I had at the time so had to shoot with the a6300. I had a cage for it and a gimbal, needless to say that is a great camera to shoot video and also take pics. You can do client work with any APSC camera honestly you got a tool capable of create good work. Although, it has its limitations but you can. I'm not gonna lie FF is great once you do you will be able to see the difference. My advice is shoot as much as you can with the A6400 if you gonna buy it and upgrade when you got the money to get a FF body either the A7III or A7IV.I do commercial work although, I'm not yet a full time freelancer I do have that goal.Hope my advice helps!!Salutes
@@Staaachuuuu Glad to hear that!!Buddy happy to help. We are lucky to live in a time where tech is improving and moving so fast that helps us to have an affordable access to all this cameras that 5/6 years ago would have cost us only God knows but quite a lot surely!!Anyway, salutes and keep up shooting buddy!!
The third camera I've been waiting for. I have FX3, A74 so it the perfect match. I generally do interview videos and 2 camera but I wanted a third hand held. I have a Fujinon MK lens which is Super35 so This will be my A with the FX3 with a nice prime as a B; leaving me free to use the A74 with probably my Tamron 35-150 to use to do pictures and whatever...
My A Cam is A7Siii and B Cam is A7IV. I film a lot Offshore in fishing boats and constantly being surrounded by saltwater and rain. Might buy this as a C cam
You're forgetting the Panasonic GH-6. Lots to be said, but it has a better feature set. Sure, the autofocus isn't comparable, but that won't matter, when you shoot with Cine glass.
While I would agree with you (since I own an S1 and an S5), I just don't think that is the way the market is headed. More and more video is being made by "content creators" and for them, autofocus is a key feature. If Panasonic was able to put GREAT auto focus in the S5 and sell it at the same ridiculously low price they sell it now (it is like $1800 or something with the 20-60mm kit lens included, or something like that), then people wouldn't even think of getting an FX 30.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Do they have time though. It took 5+ years to develop 1 sensor for the GH6. And it's not even good for stills so they can't use it in the G9mk2/G10 whatever it is. Now imagine if, given that they have finally accepted public opinion, scrapped all existing development for the S1Hii to rebuild a new sensor, it'll be almost 3-5 years at least before we see a S1Hii with PDAF.
Remember - an APS-C sensor does not denote "entry level" - it's the same "super 35" size that all major motion pictures have used for decades. Even the $50,000 Alexa digital cameras are ASPS-C size sensors. I've shot two features on an A6500 ASP-C camera and won 8 awards doing it. This FX30 is a perfect camera for any filmmaker making features, not just for budding ones.
I don't know why people keep trying to throw the 6KPro into the mix just because of the price point. The 6KPro is honestly in a completely different league when it comes to in my opinion when it comes to image quality and it's not even close. Technical testing can only say so much. It's out in the real world were things make a huge difference even if it seems small.
it is a fantastic upgrade! - you get much more than u think!- because i did the exact same thing i had the a7iii and now i'm upgrading to fx30 you get far more data in your shots the important off all is 4:2:2 10bit and much higher Bitrates and amazing 4k-60 and OKish 4k-120 , amazing AF , and much more its totally worth the upgrade and dont even hesitate !
The FX3 is a much better camera than the FX30 in every aspect. Has higher dynamic range, much better low light performance, signal to noise ratio, much better rolling shutter, allows shallower depth of field, among other features. The sensor size makes all the difference.
Shallow DoF can be bad for things like narratives. You'll end up having to stop down just to get more things in focus, and spend more money on far more powerful lights to compensate. Majority of films have been shot on t2.9-ish on S35 at max which brings it close to T4 ff. Shooting scenes at 1.4 all the time defeats the purpose of picking locations and set dressing, might as well green screen the background.
For one who has to carry their camera long and far, the FX3 loses out on weight. Especially considering the lenses. The FX30 can also read clock sync, which can be a major time saver in multicam situations. For one who doesn't have to make everyting look "filmic", not having to chase a shallow depth of field can also be a great help.
Interesting… you show the DZO zoom lenses a few times mentioning these are options… I’m sorry… but the Pictor DZO zooms are only EF and PL mount. How can they fit the Emount FX30? Am I wrong?
Well... fx-30 would be smaller and lighter, and generally aps-c lenses are less expensive. However, I think that for STILLS photos, the a7 IV might be advantageous (I don't think the FX 30 has bracketing for stills, for example). Plus you MIGHT prefer the ergonomics of the a7 IV more. And on really bright day you MIGHT want to use the EVF of the a7 IV. (My a6500, a6300, a6000 and a5100 all have really shiny LCD screens that make it hard to use in bright daylight.) And some people LOVE the ultra-shallow depth of field look, but I think that for doing beekeeping videos, you probably DON'T want super shallow depth of field. Sony certainly has packed a lot in to the FX30. Guess we will have to wait for the next episode or two to find out the image quality holds up at high ISO.
@@Nordbiene Just to be honest though, I have seen other bee keepers (and people who do hornet / wasp / bee removal videos) and a lot of the times they just use an iPhone, or a gopro, or something not too expensive. Do you NEED the 10-bit color and 4K 60fps from an FX30 or a7 IV? Maybe something like a Fuji X-T4 would be better for you because it has physical dials which MIGHT be easier to use if you are wearing bee keeping gloves???
@@marinrealestatephotography hello, thank You so much for Your suggestions. Yes, these are also my questions. 4K 50p would be great. 10 Bit Color maybe is a bit overloaded. Good low light capabilities are important for me. So I have to collect further information. Thank You.
First shipment is due in October and pre-orders are open now! But if the queue gets as long as the FX6 did there might well be a wait for those who order further down the line unfortunately.
I’m fairly new to videography with cameras as I was using an iPhone for my channel but have been using a a6600 for a while now and am wondering if this is a significant step up. I’ve started doing a little bit of recording for local am dram groups and other things and think this is a beautiful option to take my videography to the next level. Could you compare the a6600 arguably one of the prior best cameras with the smaller sensors to this? Think many people will be in my position. Great video thanks again
Hi,you could keep the 6600 that's a beast APSC camera and get this one that's technically a small baby FX3.You can imagine how could improve your videos and technique as is a mini cinema camera. I had an A6300 and passed away early summer after 4 years with me lucky got the A7IV. I think I'll get this one in the future as B camera as I do both video and photography and still got APSC lenses so, like you is no brainer is a bargain.Hope this helps!!Salutes
@@LoveDarts You're welcome!!we are in this together so, happy to give you advice or opinion. Save some money and get it!!Remember, this are our tools to create so have fun in the meantime with the A6600 that's also a great camera.Salutes ;-)
@@LoveDarts I apologise forgot to thank you for your feedback and the sub I really appreciate. I'm gonna try to put more content out soon as I'm busy with many things so, I'll keep y'all updated 😃
Make improving the sound (spoken word) of your videos your priority. It sounds terrible. 'Rode VideoMicro' (or similar) won't break the bank. Seeing as you film indoors often, a couple of cheap video lamps/soft boxes would go a long way. And lastly, get a couple of fast, low aperture lenses (Ebay's your friend). Sony's own 35mm f1.8 is affordable. Go from there. This will help you step-up your game more than a new camera will (and for far less $$$). Just sayin'.. ;)
Absolutely. I'm glad it showed up after youtube compression! I was making this video thinking that people might not be able to see what I was talking about
Been playing around with my old a7ii and didn't realize how bad the 1080p video is now when most things are 4k. Photos still great though, but damn that thing is 8yrs old, which is crazy, felt much newer than that. Was looking at a1 and a7s iii for videos on trips but I also want something as light as possible. But the native iso on the a7s iii and fx3 is quite amazing.
I don't think the FX3 is at the end of its product cycle at all. Its still a fantastic camera which sits well against the rest of the market. I don't think technology has moved on enough yet for Sony to make a better version of it just yet. And as a professional tool you don't want your cameras replaced too frequently as it de-values them.
Hi! I do vlogs and creative 10-min short films for web, is this camera for me? Or it's too much for my needs? I've been using phones and action cameras if not borrowing my friend's a6000. It'll be my first time investing in a proper camera w/ interchangeable lens. I don't want to spend on overkill features and at the same time end up buying another camera because I chose something that underperforms. Any insights or suggestions guys?
The FX30 would work very well, but if its too much money for you right now, the ZV-E10 is designed exactly what you are doing: proav.co.uk/cameras-lenses/sony-alpha-zv-e10-camera-body
I have two FX3s and need a third to record a podcast with a three camera setup. If the FX3 and FX30 are set to iso 800 and F4 will they cut together well? Or is this more a case of shoot with the FX3 and then adjust lighting conditions for the FX30 to match. Hope this makes sense.
The EXPOSURE would be the same. But the depth of field would be different, meaning the full-frame FX 3 would have a shallower depth of field. You could MATCH the depth of field by shooting at f/2.8 on the FX30 and at f/4 on the FX3. But then you would be shooting one stop brighter on the FX30, unless you either drop the ISO to ISO 400, or INCREASE the shutter speed one stop, or put a one-stop neutral density filter on the FX30.
@@marinrealestatephotography thank you for the reply. I was thinking of using the fx3 as the wide cam and the two fx3s as the close ups on the host and the guest. With the wide I generally don’t mind the lack of DOF. But if there’s going to be other factors that won’t match then that’s a different story. I would mainly use the FX30 for wides.
I feel like Canon is really in trouble. I think Steve Jobs once said, "If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will." That's the story for Canon and Sony. Unless Canon completely changes its strategy, it is game over. Sony has knocked it out of the park for the past two years. I can't believe they made the FX30 $1800>. I'm not even sure they are making any profit at that price.
I wouldn't dismiss Canon, they make fantastic cameras still and we have many very happy customers. Sony cameras aren't perfect, but they are on a great streak right now with their releases. They are doing some very interesting things!
@@loyalvisuals213 really? Does fx30 shoot prores internally? Does it output blackmagic raw? Does it have interchangeable lens mount? Does it have waveform and false color?
@@andreasbulowhansen9413 I didn’t say it had what zcam had either. Both are made with different priorities and Sony is leaning more towards consumer as zcam is a more affordable professional build. Straight out the box vs build a rig
Except that it only does 48fps full sensor readout whether in 6k or 4k, 4k75 max without cropped top and bottom, no autofocus, no IBIS, and a significantly lower cap on the bitrates in h.264 and h.265 (300mbps and 4:2:0 chroma subsampling in the ZCAM, 600mbps 4:2:2 in the FX30) with your only option for less compression being jumping straight to ZRAW at 1200mbps (which isn't actually RAW in the way that something like cDNG is) or using an external recorder. Also, not sure if I'm missing something here, but according to ZCAM's own site the E2-S6 does not record ProRes internally. Stop being a weird fanboy.
@@TechnoBabble it does do Prores internally in all flavours, including 422HQ. With newest firmware it can even do 4K 75fps in ProresHQ. Please do your research. Yes it doesn't have autofocus or ibis. Its a different kind of camera. Not flawless by any means but the point is that it opens full sensor readout 6.2K, whereas Sony decided to keep that option off this camera. Even Fuji allows you to do it on the new HX2s
@@rsmith02 Sound was just so so but the controls/dials are what were horrible. Tiny little wheels that got loose over time and difficult to operate and I have slim fingers. Distords easily whereas my mixpre3 is a dream to use. I just sync later but if I wanted I could just feed it into the camera. Another but problem is I paid all that extra for the Sony and that handle only works on certain Sony's. My mixpre3 or any other external recorder I can use with any camera.
This is for the 18 YOOToobers who make content but this is a very expensive toy with no professional features for a serious cinema work. For the price I can do more with a brand new Iphone and Ipad a better investment.
I've been a loyal Canon shooter for so long, and might be the nail in the coffin for them (for me). I do weddings and need 3-4 4k cameras with unlimited record times. That's been a nightmare with Canon without paying an arm & a leg or having too much serious compromises (battery life on the R5c, no unlimited recording on the R5 and R6, etc.). SO frustrating.
Canon needs a new strategist ... I am a Canon user myself so I know how long we have had to wait for exciting gear ... the R5 was dear ... the R6 was DoA videowise (no manual control) ... the R7 was quickly eclipsed videowise by the XH2s and then the XH2 and now the FX30 ... no third party lens options just made Canon more elitist than it already was
wait the Canon r7 is what you want no? I mean very similar to the camera in this video if you like Canon. no record times, good battery life, clog3, etc
@@Shanefun I would agree that the R7 is Canons equivalent. It’s not as video oriented though. Purely as a video tool, the FX30 does have more going for it. I think the R7 is a much better stills camera though, so it’s swings and roundabouts.
I’m with you. I’m really considering selling my canon gear switching to Sony. I have the C70 and R3 but the FX3, FX30 and A74 are calling me right now lol. I don’t know what to do.
Too late. I already have the FX30. So far, I really love what I'm getting out of it. I am still wrapping my head around the Cine EI workflow, but it is starting to make sense. I think it's a very capable camera that goes beyond simple content creation and can easily handle narrative filmmaking. (EDIT: One of the things I like about the FX30 is its form factor. Because it is shaped like a common photographers camera, you can shoot almost anywhere without drawing attention. So, if you want to get into run-n-gun or gorilla filmmaking - avoiding those pesky permits - you can with the FX30.)
Its a smaller sensor size of course. But I think there are a lot of aspects where this would be a big step up from the A7 III. Autofocus and general image performance and colours would be my two main ones.
@@carlyates2487 Thank you Carl and I certainly agree with you! After using the FX3 *loving it* and having my eyes on it since it released, this new FX30 I believe will be an amazing alternate option for me :) Thanks for giving me that extra boost of confidence I needed to pull the trigger on it!
So basically this costs as much as a Panasonic s5 or sigma fp l, which are full frame. But hey, you can use apsc lenses. Oh wait, every full frame mirrorless has a crop mode now. Nice try, Sony.
I've seen many reviews cover the pros and cons of this camera. The main takeaway is that many more budding and pro videographers can get their hands on an outstanding machine at a great price. Just know and overcome the negatives and you can make super outstanding videos. Just look at the lenses available by Sony and many 3rd party companies. No one should complain about that sensor, but let their imagination run wild. What I find the winning formula is that it is not only a great machine for making videos, but it can also take outstanding stills, all in a tiny package.
guys I have a a7siii and a7iv. should I sell my a7iv for this. I shoot weddings and have alot of power light. just bought the a7iv. I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of (get the newest thing out their). the low light worries me with the fx30. it is a nice price point though. I don't really do photos
Why? That’s crazy. You’ll trade a full frame camera that uses same lenses as your S for a crop sensor which makes your lenses lose its wide angle. That’s so illogical
In the UK I can get a Sony A74 for £2190, and a Sony FX30 for £2100, at the moment it doesn't make economic sense to buy the FX30. On top of that Tamron have just announced the 20-40 F2.8 for fullfame Sony, a lens with no comparison in the Sony crop world
@@carlyates2487 yes Carl there is a difference in the US but at the moment in the UK the A74 is nearly the same price with nearly the same specs but a full frame sensor and Eve
Well the C70 has its DGO sensor so will likely have more dynamic range, plus has raw internal and ND filters. But the FX30 is much smaller, has a stabilised sensor if thats useful to you, and is obviously more affordable.
This is a much more modern camera system and sensor. Personally I think the image and colours are better on FX30 and the autofocus will be much better as well
@@carlyates2487 Can it do auto exposure bracketing in photos? Wish it had memory recall button (I often switch between electronic shutter auto exposure bracketing and mechanical shutter so as to use flash).
Bad choice, only single shot. And e-shutter modes always have less dynamic range by about half stop. Wait for the new a7xxx series to come out with a mechanical shutter.
@@professionalpotato4764 it depends. I shoot a lot of time lapse. I`d sacrifice the half stop DR so as to shoot thousands of shots without fear of blowing out the shutter like I once did on an A7iii
The only video that has showed image quality side by sides clearly and low light tests, thanks
Glad they helped!
It would make up for a lot of the shortcomings that my A6600 has, then I'd still have a use for my lens collection for Sony APSC. It's incredibly tempting.
This is an undeniably better video camera than the A6600 is
I'm on the same boat! I think I made my choice.. 😅 Seriously tempting!
I might also get it to compliment my a6600. For me better rolling shutter is the biggest deal. I'm concerned about the lack of a viewfinder, though.
What short comings? I personally don't see any benefit of upgrading to essentially the same camera.
Looks like great competition to the XH2s, just without 6k open gate or ProRes internal. Assume the autofocus is much better though.
I haven’t directly compared them. But from what I have seen the Fuji likely has better image quality. It’s stacked sensor is remarkable. Plus the features you mentioned like ProRes and 6K.
However FX30 definitely has better AF performance and has an excellent design for video work.
@@carlyates2487 Would be great to see some image comparisons with the Fuji!
@@TomWhitchurch According to Gerald Undone's test, with some noise reduction applied in post, the FX30 is still behind the XH2S by about 1 whole stop. The XH2S is around 14.6 stops, but the FX30 peaks at around 13ish.
@@professionalpotato4764 From using both separately that sounds about right. The X-H2s is a very impressive camera. But this is still very respectable dynamic range performance.
what I need is advice here, I have stared a channel here and I am looking for Sony fx30 or the a6700
why I personally want to go for FX30 is that I will get cinema line camera, video quality will be awesome for viewers, can record in log, full size hdmi if I want to make a rig of it, and its professional.
a6700 if I go for, it comes with a lens (but can I use that lens for my TH-cam videos?) it has the same sensor as FX30
dealbreaker: mini Hdmi port, one card slot, over heating issues. fx30 here is more reliable. and I want my videos to come out like movies after color grading them. thats all.
Greta video!!I totally agree with your final thoughts I got the A6300 that I used for 4 years and just died technically this summer. I was lucky I upgraded to the A7IV last winter so, I still got APSC lenses that'd be great in case I get this camera as B camera at some point one day. Sony has giving us a great camera for an affordable price for newbies and everyone else looking to add this one to their gear kit.
Agreed, this is a lot of camera for the money!
Did you „work” with your a6300 or just a hobby photographer? I want to buy the a6400 but I wonder if it will manage simple client work. In case I earn any money move on to a FF a7III or the IV
@@Staaachuuuu I did indeed!!!It was the only camera I had at the time so had to shoot with the a6300. I had a cage for it and a gimbal, needless to say that is a great camera to shoot video and also take pics. You can do client work with any APSC camera honestly you got a tool capable of create good work. Although, it has its limitations but you can. I'm not gonna lie FF is great once you do you will be able to see the difference. My advice is shoot as much as you can with the A6400 if you gonna buy it and upgrade when you got the money to get a FF body either the A7III or A7IV.I do commercial work although, I'm not yet a full time freelancer I do have that goal.Hope my advice helps!!Salutes
@@Jaimesebe bang, thats what I wanted to hear. Thanks, might go with the a6400 in that case, however I still need to save up a bit ;))
@@Staaachuuuu Glad to hear that!!Buddy happy to help. We are lucky to live in a time where tech is improving and moving so fast that helps us to have an affordable access to all this cameras that 5/6 years ago would have cost us only God knows but quite a lot surely!!Anyway, salutes and keep up shooting buddy!!
The third camera I've been waiting for. I have FX3, A74 so it the perfect match. I generally do interview videos and 2 camera but I wanted a third hand held. I have a Fujinon MK lens which is Super35 so This will be my A with the FX3 with a nice prime as a B; leaving me free to use the A74 with probably my Tamron 35-150 to use to do pictures and whatever...
This will be a perfect camera for the Fujinon MK lenses!
Really tight battle between this and X-H2s and even X-H2.
I'll try and compare them at some point!
The perfect camera for use with those great Fujinon zooms. There really need to come out with an UWA zoom to complete the set, though.
This will be such a great camera to pair with the Fujinon MK lenses! Still some of my favourite lenses on the market.
I’m not a pro and I don’t know much about video but damn that’s a nice looking camera. I like how the cage fittings are on the outside of the camera.
It really makes for a much more secure connection to your cage
It's for Me.
My A Cam is A7Siii and B Cam is A7IV. I film a lot Offshore in fishing boats and constantly being surrounded by saltwater and rain. Might buy this as a C cam
Sure, I imagine a smaller and lighter camera/lens combo would be useful for you to have at your disposal too
Look forward to an FX60 that would combine the best of FX6 and FX30.
Interesting, what are you picturing for that? essentially an FX6 but with a Super35mm sensor?
I guess an FS5 III ?
@@carlyates2487 this camera with the auto e-ND instead of IBIS would be a big win for me.
PRE ORDERED 2 OF THEM.
You're forgetting the Panasonic GH-6. Lots to be said, but it has a better feature set. Sure, the autofocus isn't comparable, but that won't matter, when you shoot with Cine glass.
While I would agree with you (since I own an S1 and an S5), I just don't think that is the way the market is headed. More and more video is being made by "content creators" and for them, autofocus is a key feature. If Panasonic was able to put GREAT auto focus in the S5 and sell it at the same ridiculously low price they sell it now (it is like $1800 or something with the 20-60mm kit lens included, or something like that), then people wouldn't even think of getting an FX 30.
Panasonic will get there. Eventually.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Do they have time though. It took 5+ years to develop 1 sensor for the GH6. And it's not even good for stills so they can't use it in the G9mk2/G10 whatever it is. Now imagine if, given that they have finally accepted public opinion, scrapped all existing development for the S1Hii to rebuild a new sensor, it'll be almost 3-5 years at least before we see a S1Hii with PDAF.
It's for a Budding film maker, but I want a sony x-h2.
Remember - an APS-C sensor does not denote "entry level" - it's the same "super 35" size that all major motion pictures have used for decades. Even the $50,000 Alexa digital cameras are ASPS-C size sensors. I've shot two features on an A6500 ASP-C camera and won 8 awards doing it. This FX30 is a perfect camera for any filmmaker making features, not just for budding ones.
I think I would have like to buy the FX30 but,sadly, I recently pulled the trigger on the Sony A6600
Fx3 looks nicer primarily because it’s closer to the canon magenta. Anyway to get this SOOC in fx30
I don't know why people keep trying to throw the 6KPro into the mix just because of the price point. The 6KPro is honestly in a completely different league when it comes to in my opinion when it comes to image quality and it's not even close. Technical testing can only say so much. It's out in the real world were things make a huge difference even if it seems small.
Well your going to love the video i'm working on now then as its all about comparing the FX30 and BMPCC 6K 😅
Yeah real world where you can’t depend on it’s autofocus
@@Chris-ey7zy who’s autofocus?
Superb Explained Sir
Thank you very much! Glad it helped
Carl
you can forncer some sotck to know better the files?
its the new A6400 basically lol its a APS-C camera. they say its a crop sensor fx3, its a beginner camera.
I shoot a lot of sports and currently run the A7iii. Would the FX30 be considered an upgrade or should I just save up for fx3? Thank you!
it is a fantastic upgrade! - you get much more than u think!- because i did the exact same thing i had the a7iii and now i'm upgrading to fx30 you get far more data in your shots the important off all is 4:2:2 10bit and much higher Bitrates and amazing 4k-60 and OKish 4k-120 , amazing AF , and much more its totally worth the upgrade and dont even hesitate !
hi,,,how do you se this camera with sony FE 24-70 mm f4 or 24-015mm f4? thanks
Hi.. how do i power a Sennheiser mkh 416 mic via handle?
The FX3 is a much better camera than the FX30 in every aspect.
Has higher dynamic range, much better low light performance, signal to noise ratio, much better rolling shutter, allows shallower depth of field, among other features.
The sensor size makes all the difference.
The FX3 is better. Definitely.
But it costs a lot more, so it should be.
Shallow DoF can be bad for things like narratives. You'll end up having to stop down just to get more things in focus, and spend more money on far more powerful lights to compensate. Majority of films have been shot on t2.9-ish on S35 at max which brings it close to T4 ff. Shooting scenes at 1.4 all the time defeats the purpose of picking locations and set dressing, might as well green screen the background.
It's double the price so should be better. This apsc sensor is good enough for video. It will take sales from Canon and Blackmagic for sure.
For one who has to carry their camera long and far, the FX3 loses out on weight. Especially considering the lenses. The FX30 can also read clock sync, which can be a major time saver in multicam situations.
For one who doesn't have to make everyting look "filmic", not having to chase a shallow depth of field can also be a great help.
@@anhatur Wait the FX3 doesn't have timecode?
Interesting… you show the DZO zoom lenses a few times mentioning these are options… I’m sorry… but the Pictor DZO zooms are only EF and PL mount. How can they fit the Emount FX30? Am I wrong?
Hi sir im a traditional wedding videographer using sony fs5!!, iam planing to shift to better autofocus camera, is it worth changing to fx30
Should I trade in my FS7 to grab an FX30?
Pros over the a6600?
10-bit, better rolling shutter performance
Cool tests, thanks bro. Can the FX30 correct lens distortion in video recording?
Great video! Kondor Blue already got a cage for this. Something you sell?
How well could this match with a Sony A7IV?
Great video, thank You. FX30 or a7 IV, what will be the choise for me as a beekeeping youtuber?
Well... fx-30 would be smaller and lighter, and generally aps-c lenses are less expensive. However, I think that for STILLS photos, the a7 IV might be advantageous (I don't think the FX 30 has bracketing for stills, for example). Plus you MIGHT prefer the ergonomics of the a7 IV more. And on really bright day you MIGHT want to use the EVF of the a7 IV. (My a6500, a6300, a6000 and a5100 all have really shiny LCD screens that make it hard to use in bright daylight.) And some people LOVE the ultra-shallow depth of field look, but I think that for doing beekeeping videos, you probably DON'T want super shallow depth of field. Sony certainly has packed a lot in to the FX30. Guess we will have to wait for the next episode or two to find out the image quality holds up at high ISO.
@@marinrealestatephotography thank You so much. Best regards. Kai 👍🏻🙂
@@Nordbiene Just to be honest though, I have seen other bee keepers (and people who do hornet / wasp / bee removal videos) and a lot of the times they just use an iPhone, or a gopro, or something not too expensive. Do you NEED the 10-bit color and 4K 60fps from an FX30 or a7 IV? Maybe something like a Fuji X-T4 would be better for you because it has physical dials which MIGHT be easier to use if you are wearing bee keeping gloves???
@@marinrealestatephotography hello, thank You so much for Your suggestions. Yes, these are also my questions. 4K 50p would be great. 10 Bit Color maybe is a bit overloaded. Good low light capabilities are important for me. So I have to collect further information. Thank You.
How about battery life from 100% to 0%? What battery model is used?
great, but probably not available that easily, may take 1 year till you get your hands on it
First shipment is due in October and pre-orders are open now!
But if the queue gets as long as the FX6 did there might well be a wait for those who order further down the line unfortunately.
I went canon cripple features while sony crippled sensor....fx 3 only 12mp and $4k fx 30 is apsc and Sony a7iv 4k crop 1.5x.
I want to ask which Lav mic are you using in this video? I'm trying really hard to go with much better audio which means better mic, and Lav mics
Why would you choose this camera over X-HS2, GH6 and the R7 is what I would like to know.
They each have different Pro's and Con's
On which camera did you shoot this clip.
Is this camera good for video blogging ?
What lense was that at the end? 9:02
I’m fairly new to videography with cameras as I was using an iPhone for my channel but have been using a a6600 for a while now and am wondering if this is a significant step up. I’ve started doing a little bit of recording for local am dram groups and other things and think this is a beautiful option to take my videography to the next level. Could you compare the a6600 arguably one of the prior best cameras with the smaller sensors to this? Think many people will be in my position. Great video thanks again
Hi,you could keep the 6600 that's a beast APSC camera and get this one that's technically a small baby FX3.You can imagine how could improve your videos and technique as is a mini cinema camera. I had an A6300 and passed away early summer after 4 years with me lucky got the A7IV. I think I'll get this one in the future as B camera as I do both video and photography and still got APSC lenses so, like you is no brainer is a bargain.Hope this helps!!Salutes
@@Jaimesebe thanks for the advice. This is certainly appealing. Let’s see if I can find some money for it! Hehe great video again. Have subscribed 😃
@@LoveDarts You're welcome!!we are in this together so, happy to give you advice or opinion. Save some money and get it!!Remember, this are our tools to create so have fun in the meantime with the A6600 that's also a great camera.Salutes ;-)
@@LoveDarts I apologise forgot to thank you for your feedback and the sub I really appreciate. I'm gonna try to put more content out soon as I'm busy with many things so, I'll keep y'all updated 😃
Make improving the sound (spoken word) of your videos your priority. It sounds terrible. 'Rode VideoMicro' (or similar) won't break the bank. Seeing as you film indoors often, a couple of cheap video lamps/soft boxes would go a long way. And lastly, get a couple of fast, low aperture lenses (Ebay's your friend). Sony's own 35mm f1.8 is affordable. Go from there. This will help you step-up your game more than a new camera will (and for far less $$$). Just sayin'.. ;)
If ND will be there.. then these won’t be small anymore…
The moire elimination was definitely due to the supersampling.
Absolutely. I'm glad it showed up after youtube compression! I was making this video thinking that people might not be able to see what I was talking about
Does this shoot 59.9 fps I only saw 50 fps in the menus you showed in the video ?
Yes.
Is this like an inverse Sony A7C? Both are priced the same, which would you go for?
Do you take photos, A7C, want to do filmmaking fx30
@@APhamx7 Yes but very occasionally
This is a much more modern camera and sensor than the A7C, I would always choose this now
Hi
Is the body on the sony fx30 identical to the fx3, I want to use the same rig.
Great vid
Thanks
The dimensions are identical though weight is less.
Yes it is, the cage we show in this video is the Kondor Blue FX3 cage and it fits perfectly
Q is it possible to connect a lanc zoom control ??? and how do you do to get timecode in. is it the same cable as fx3 ??
Yes it is, and yes, exactly the same as FX3
Like Xt3 2018
Been playing around with my old a7ii and didn't realize how bad the 1080p video is now when most things are 4k. Photos still great though, but damn that thing is 8yrs old, which is crazy, felt much newer than that.
Was looking at a1 and a7s iii for videos on trips but I also want something as light as possible. But the native iso on the a7s iii and fx3 is quite amazing.
Perhaps this and an A7s III as well would be a great combination for what you're doing?
Wish there was an upgrade for the fx3
I don't think the FX3 is at the end of its product cycle at all. Its still a fantastic camera which sits well against the rest of the market.
I don't think technology has moved on enough yet for Sony to make a better version of it just yet. And as a professional tool you don't want your cameras replaced too frequently as it de-values them.
Hi! I do vlogs and creative 10-min short films for web, is this camera for me? Or it's too much for my needs? I've been using phones and action cameras if not borrowing my friend's a6000. It'll be my first time investing in a proper camera w/ interchangeable lens. I don't want to spend on overkill features and at the same time end up buying another camera because I chose something that underperforms. Any insights or suggestions guys?
Kind of too vague to really advise you. Try renting it for a few days and see if it does what you need.
The FX30 would work very well, but if its too much money for you right now, the ZV-E10 is designed exactly what you are doing: proav.co.uk/cameras-lenses/sony-alpha-zv-e10-camera-body
I'm hoping an a6600 replacement follows soon.
Yes, a more stills focused version of this camera would be great.
for parents who want to gift something to their 14 year old ambitious child. its a good place to start.
Well, yes of course, but this camera is a whole lot better than that makes it sound! This is a very capable professional tool it its own right
0:08 It looks like the sensor is rotated in body wtf?
The FX3 full frame sensor makes it a much better camera than the FX30, it’s not even close in most aspects.
The FX3 is definitely better. But it also costs a lot more of course
Love your take. That 3d pop or separation is too much.
Thanks! What do you mean by "3D pop or separation is too much" though?
Still no 6k recording, that’s really disappointing.
How your eyes to compare 4-6-8k to watch after you recorded… I don’t think so
I have two FX3s and need a third to record a podcast with a three camera setup. If the FX3 and FX30 are set to iso 800 and F4 will they cut together well? Or is this more a case of shoot with the FX3 and then adjust lighting conditions for the FX30 to match. Hope this makes sense.
The EXPOSURE would be the same. But the depth of field would be different, meaning the full-frame FX 3 would have a shallower depth of field. You could MATCH the depth of field by shooting at f/2.8 on the FX30 and at f/4 on the FX3. But then you would be shooting one stop brighter on the FX30, unless you either drop the ISO to ISO 400, or INCREASE the shutter speed one stop, or put a one-stop neutral density filter on the FX30.
@@marinrealestatephotography thank you for the reply. I was thinking of using the fx3 as the wide cam and the two fx3s as the close ups on the host and the guest. With the wide I generally don’t mind the lack of DOF. But if there’s going to be other factors that won’t match then that’s a different story.
I would mainly use the FX30 for wides.
@@ChasingAmy I think that setup sounds perfect. That should work well for you
You are such a good kid 😂
Erm, thanks?
@@carlyates2487 in our household we were betting you get ALL the baddies! We are so proud of you!
I feel like Canon is really in trouble. I think Steve Jobs once said, "If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will." That's the story for Canon and Sony.
Unless Canon completely changes its strategy, it is game over.
Sony has knocked it out of the park for the past two years. I can't believe they made the FX30 $1800>. I'm not even sure they are making any profit at that price.
I wouldn't dismiss Canon, they make fantastic cameras still and we have many very happy customers.
Sony cameras aren't perfect, but they are on a great streak right now with their releases. They are doing some very interesting things!
Sony has also knocked out any potential sales of their higher end models only to compete with Canon.
Probably same sensor as found in the zcam e2s6. But Sony fx30 doesn't allow for 6k open gate. Zcam does at similar price point.
With none of the features of fx30 lol
@@loyalvisuals213 really? Does fx30 shoot prores internally? Does it output blackmagic raw? Does it have interchangeable lens mount? Does it have waveform and false color?
@@andreasbulowhansen9413 I didn’t say it had what zcam had either. Both are made with different priorities and Sony is leaning more towards consumer as zcam is a more affordable professional build. Straight out the box vs build a rig
Except that it only does 48fps full sensor readout whether in 6k or 4k, 4k75 max without cropped top and bottom, no autofocus, no IBIS, and a significantly lower cap on the bitrates in h.264 and h.265 (300mbps and 4:2:0 chroma subsampling in the ZCAM, 600mbps 4:2:2 in the FX30) with your only option for less compression being jumping straight to ZRAW at 1200mbps (which isn't actually RAW in the way that something like cDNG is) or using an external recorder.
Also, not sure if I'm missing something here, but according to ZCAM's own site the E2-S6 does not record ProRes internally.
Stop being a weird fanboy.
@@TechnoBabble it does do Prores internally in all flavours, including 422HQ. With newest firmware it can even do 4K 75fps in ProresHQ. Please do your research.
Yes it doesn't have autofocus or ibis. Its a different kind of camera. Not flawless by any means but the point is that it opens full sensor readout 6.2K, whereas Sony decided to keep that option off this camera. Even Fuji allows you to do it on the new HX2s
The fx30 is for little gangsters like me 😌
No stacked sensor. No waveform. Hmm...
Those Sony audio modules are garbage. Recommend avouding them and using a Mixpre3 or better and sync later.
What is garbage about them? Noise floor?
@@rsmith02 Sound was just so so but the controls/dials are what were horrible. Tiny little wheels that got loose over time and difficult to operate and I have slim fingers. Distords easily whereas my mixpre3 is a dream to use. I just sync later but if I wanted I could just feed it into the camera.
Another but problem is I paid all that extra for the Sony and that handle only works on certain Sony's.
My mixpre3 or any other external recorder I can use with any camera.
This is for the 18 YOOToobers who make content but this is a very expensive toy with no professional features for a serious cinema work. For the price I can do more with a brand new Iphone and Ipad a better investment.
Ridiculous dramatic statement. Aren't all toys tools?
I've been a loyal Canon shooter for so long, and might be the nail in the coffin for them (for me). I do weddings and need 3-4 4k cameras with unlimited record times. That's been a nightmare with Canon without paying an arm & a leg or having too much serious compromises (battery life on the R5c, no unlimited recording on the R5 and R6, etc.). SO frustrating.
Canon needs a new strategist ... I am a Canon user myself so I know how long we have had to wait for exciting gear ... the R5 was dear ... the R6 was DoA videowise (no manual control) ... the R7 was quickly eclipsed videowise by the XH2s and then the XH2 and now the FX30 ... no third party lens options just made Canon more elitist than it already was
wait the Canon r7 is what you want no? I mean very similar to the camera in this video if you like Canon. no record times, good battery life, clog3, etc
@@Shanefun I would agree that the R7 is Canons equivalent. It’s not as video oriented though. Purely as a video tool, the FX30 does have more going for it.
I think the R7 is a much better stills camera though, so it’s swings and roundabouts.
That 30 min limit for a $3900 camera is ridiculous.
I’m with you. I’m really considering selling my canon gear switching to Sony. I have the C70 and R3 but the FX3, FX30 and A74 are calling me right now lol. I don’t know what to do.
Too late. I already have the FX30. So far, I really love what I'm getting out of it. I am still wrapping my head around the Cine EI workflow, but it is starting to make sense. I think it's a very capable camera that goes beyond simple content creation and can easily handle narrative filmmaking.
(EDIT: One of the things I like about the FX30 is its form factor. Because it is shaped like a common photographers camera, you can shoot almost anywhere without drawing attention. So, if you want to get into run-n-gun or gorilla filmmaking - avoiding those pesky permits - you can with the FX30.)
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Helo friend, can you talk about the rig please?
if the fx30 had a 12 MP sensor for low light...nobody would buy the FF FX3...
The question is should I upgrade from my Sony A7iii .... that 4k 120 fps is calling me :)
Its a smaller sensor size of course. But I think there are a lot of aspects where this would be a big step up from the A7 III.
Autofocus and general image performance and colours would be my two main ones.
@@carlyates2487 Thank you Carl and I certainly agree with you! After using the FX3 *loving it* and having my eyes on it since it released, this new FX30 I believe will be an amazing alternate option for me :) Thanks for giving me that extra boost of confidence I needed to pull the trigger on it!
So basically this costs as much as a Panasonic s5 or sigma fp l, which are full frame. But hey, you can use apsc lenses. Oh wait, every full frame mirrorless has a crop mode now. Nice try, Sony.
Yeah I think even as Sony user I’d go for that sigma
Movie studio don't use full frame no need full frame to make movies.
The camera is for no one! Because it's unavailable everywhere 😭
We have them in stock: proav.co.uk/cameras-lenses/sony-cinema-fx30-cinema-camera
i want the zw10 to do 4k 60p 10 bit :)
Overheating problem
Nice review! Having two Fs7’s with Sony’s parfocal 18-110 lenses-did you by chance mount one to the FX30?
I didn't, but it will work well
This is probably the one of the best camera reviews + footage test I've seen on TH-cam... Thank you!
I totally agree Carl. Especially since the interview season has started again; next to my FX3 the B-cam I have been waiting for!
Definitely! They would be an excellent pair
That is recording mb size?like fuji xt4 recording 4k 200mb files,or my a6400 can record max 4k 24fps 50mb
Only the difference in the form factor the mounting points come in black with the FX30 😮
Yeh, I didn't really feel that was worth mentioning here 😂
The words full frame under the lens mount are also missing of course
Did the a6300 downsample from 6k as well?
I've seen many reviews cover the pros and cons of this camera. The main takeaway is that many more budding and pro videographers can get their hands on an outstanding machine at a great price. Just know and overcome the negatives and you can make super outstanding videos. Just look at the lenses available by Sony and many 3rd party companies. No one should complain about that sensor, but let their imagination run wild.
What I find the winning formula is that it is not only a great machine for making videos, but it can also take outstanding stills, all in a tiny package.
Sony does have the technology to put ND filters in the FX30. The much smaller ZV1 has internal ND filters.
5 axis IBIS cannot work with ND filters. Only 3 axis IBIS, like the Ricoh GRiii.
Right on! Thanks. I want one.
So this or the Lumix S5??
great review
guys I have a a7siii and a7iv. should I sell my a7iv for this. I shoot weddings and have alot of power light. just bought the a7iv. I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of (get the newest thing out their). the low light worries me with the fx30. it is a nice price point though. I don't really do photos
Why? That’s crazy. You’ll trade a full frame camera that uses same lenses as your S for a crop sensor which makes your lenses lose its wide angle. That’s so illogical
How on earth is this a cine camera without DCi 4k ?
The camera settings made in FX3 can be imported in FX30?
I'm not sure i'm afraid
In the UK I can get a Sony A74 for £2190, and a Sony FX30 for £2100, at the moment it doesn't make economic sense to buy the FX30.
On top of that Tamron have just announced the 20-40 F2.8 for fullfame Sony, a lens with no comparison in the Sony crop world
Why do you say it doesn't make economic sense to buy an FX30?
Because theres a full frame camera thats a similar price?
@@carlyates2487 yes Carl there is a difference in the US but at the moment in the UK the A74 is nearly the same price with nearly the same specs but a full frame sensor and Eve
How will the FX30 compare to the canon C70?
Well the C70 has its DGO sensor so will likely have more dynamic range, plus has raw internal and ND filters. But the FX30 is much smaller, has a stabilised sensor if thats useful to you, and is obviously more affordable.
I still fink a7c ir better by
This is a much more modern camera system and sensor. Personally I think the image and colours are better on FX30 and the autofocus will be much better as well
FX30 have a photo mode? to take some pictures?
Yes it does.
@@carlyates2487 so its a video câmera but i can do good pictures like Sony a6600? With good Lens? Or not? What you advice
@@carlyates2487 Can it do auto exposure bracketing in photos? Wish it had memory recall button (I often switch between electronic shutter auto exposure bracketing and mechanical shutter so as to use flash).
@@marinrealestatephotography It sounds like you would be better with Sony's alpha lineup rather than the Cinema lineup to me
Simple answer, for those who are already in the Sony ecosystem and can't afford a FX3, or want a cheaper B cam for their existing FX3
Exactly
I guess FS line is dead now, but sony might make an FX60 or something if they decide to put built in ND.
That would be excellent
Can it be use for photography?
Bad choice, only single shot. And e-shutter modes always have less dynamic range by about half stop. Wait for the new a7xxx series to come out with a mechanical shutter.
@@professionalpotato4764 it depends. I shoot a lot of time lapse. I`d sacrifice the half stop DR so as to shoot thousands of shots without fear of blowing out the shutter like I once did on an A7iii
A7IV vs FX30 both at the same price..which one? (videography)
7iv come on man
No waveforms??? You're killing me Sony.
Agreed, they really should add more exposure tools to these cameras. I'd like false colour personally
price pls bro
Of course, full pricing info is on our website: proav.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=CamsFX30
But the body only FX30 is currently £2099 inc VAT