That's the beauty of this interaction. They both knew the other was up to something, and they both knew the other knew that they knew. It's all an act, a game that they're playing, and it's fascinating to see.
I think mine is the one with Tomalak in The Defector. The acting is superb from both men throughout that whole scene and fully highlights everything I love about captain Picard and TNG. The use of the musical score during that scene is absolutely incredible as well with my favorite part being the subtle horn that plays from the Klingon theme right before Picard orders Worf to signal the Klingons to decloak when the theme fully kicks in.
Andreas Katsulas as Commander Tomalak seemed to be set up as Picard's nemesis across the Neutral Zone. But the actor was taken up playing G'Kar on Babylon 5. And Katsulas also played politeness very well, with a coating of oiliness and a dash of menace.
He was also the Enterprise's tactical officer in Star Trek Generations. "Sir, a Klingon Bird of Prey is decloaking off the port bow!" Sirol went from Romulan captain.....to spy!!
David Hinton Oh, yes, and the passive aggression was just exquisite. I wonder why the writers went that route. Usually Romulan captains were much blunter.
@@nunyabeeswax303 you have to remember the shield strength and additional destructive force your weapons have when captained by Jean Luc Picard. Dude is a HIGH level. Been grinding for years.
"Lmao Romulans are rubbish" *phaser fire slices up the outside of Enterprises' saucer section* "hahaha Starfleet has much to learn about no-scoping" *starts cloaking/decloaking rapidly in lieu of teabagging* *enterprise drops like 4 torpedoes on it's engineering section and it explodes in a ball of fire* "bruh quit using the noob tube!"
It's called hiding in plain sight; it happens a lot. All you have to do is sit with someone at a table and speak low enough to not grab the attention of others but no so low that you're whispering (which will grab attention) and you can say anything without the concern of being overheard.
@@r0bw00d Except an admiral with a past relationship with this particular officer has two really easy ways to legitimately give classified info to Riker: 1.) Meet him in his quarters to 'reminisce' 2.) Give him the classified info via orders, which he did anyways. Crowded public settings still offer way too much room for some random person to stumble over and hear something they weren't meant to, and as both Riker and Pressman are senior officers they have a legitimate right to a private area to talk.
@@BrigadierBill There are multiple options for any act. The fact still remains that the easiest way to avoid suspicion is to not behave suspiciously. Do you pay attention to the conversations people around you are having, say, in a restaurant? Despite being in a public place, those talks are still pretty much private. Same goes for this scene. You can disagree with the option, which is fine, of course, but that doesn't mean that you can pass it off as being illegitimate. As for that last bit, when two people of a higher rank speak to each other, everybody else tends to avoid them. Plus, people in the 24th century have the decency to not eavesdrop on one another.
Like Trump at Maralargo sharing North Korea intel with campaign donors over dinner and a nice big slice of chocolate cake. A great slice of cake. The best slice. We have nothing but the best chocolate cake at Maralago
This stuff is much more interesting and exciting than copy and paste fleets of thousands pew pewing at another copy and paste fleet of thousands in the newer stuff :(
I can feel the depth of Riker's eyeroll at 3:57 when the Admiral told him that he could NOT even discuss (the true reason behind the search for the Pegasus) with his Captain and friend.
There were many funny moments in TNG, but I always loved the moments when Patrick Stewart (great actor) played Captain Picard as an insincere and struggling actor, and equally loved the "fake sincerity" moments like this one.
"Not at all. But your unannounced appearance might have unfortunate consequences. It would be an awful shame if your ship were damaged due to some misunderstanding."
"Not at all. But your unannounced appearance might have unfortunate consequences. It would be an awful shame if several photon torpedoes suddenly struck the bridge of your ship."
@@tek512 Continuing the steady downward slide in tone and subtlety: "I would hate it if your ass were to sustain injury when I break my foot off in it."
"Hey, you remember that transphasic cloak that was like a big deal with the romulans but then not?" "Yeah" "Well what if we used it against the Jem'Hadar?"
3:43 "Not many and it's up to us to make sure it stays that way." I like how the actor widens his eyes at "make sure" to emphasize his point. Good acting.
Really? Jesus suffering christ, pedantic motherfuckers! Also, thank you for all these clips......perfect bitesized chunks of Trek, a few everyday and all that...
Captain Picard was the ideal captain for the Enterprise D in the TNG-era. Who else would you want on a frontier exploring and diplomatic mission than a man who's proven himself in Klingon culture as Worf's "Kam-Jahtee", strategically communicated on par with Romulans, gained very IN DEPTH experience with the Borg, outsmart and outfought Ferengi pirates and was able to grant some temporary self-control and logic restoration to the Vulcan Ambassador Sarek?
The funny thing for me, re-watching this, is how much that reminds me of House explaining his hiring choices (in his case, *to* the people he'd hired).
@@TheTerranscout Okay, I get that it's a bit contrived, since the Romulans can presumable read the _Enterprise_ pennant number, but it's still a great moment. I love the small but noticeable reaction the Romulan CO has when he hears Picard's name. After the events of "The Enemy," "The Defector," "Data's Day," "Redemption," and "Unification," Captain Picard must have quite the file from the Tal Shiar.
In hindsight, yes... but at the time of the accord, federation was a fast expanding.. technically outpacing classical single dominating species empires... with cloaking device, Federation would be invincible. It would put the balance of power too far off..
well until the dominion they wernt allowed to use cloaking technology, during the war they used extensively even outside the gamma quadrant and they also use cloaked mines. im guessing they laxed on the treaty after the dominion war.
The Federation have a habit of signing stupid treaties in a rush for peace. They didn’t learn their lesson at Algeron, nor with the daft Cardassian treaty where they signed away the sovereignty of their own planets near the border.🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@thehantavirus The only ship cloak the Federation had was on the Defiant, and the device was loaned from the Romulans. The treaty was still in place, though the Dominion War was an exception
00:30 - 01:35 has a classic ’Game of Thrones’ feel; insincere compliments, vague threats, subtle boasts, poorly disguised lying, false friendliness, stilted politeness. Picard could just as well be Tyrion Lannister or Varys. And the Romulan captain is a sort of Cersei Lannister or Olenna Tyrell. Good to know that politics and power plays are often similar, whatever the timeline.
They must not remember the big twist of the episode: When they recovered the Pegasus's captain's logs, it turned out the Admiral had been in a wheelchair during his entire command...
Oh how I miss TNG, DS9, Voyager and yes, even Enterprise - when Star Trek was written by talented writers who respected both the characters and the audience.
Romulan: I hope we didn't scare you. Picard: Ya just think if we had to kick your butt all the way to Romulus. Romulan: haha good one. Well enough of this BS bye
its actually quite remarkable how many of Picards peers, Captains and Admirals alike who look at his actions and mindset with bewilderment bordering on mild contempt
@@MasterofSpiders I did not like how the writers made section 31 this bad guy in Star trek discovery that's one of my issues with that show along with making the Klingons different and other things.
@JRPGFan20000 stop it. No they are not trouble. you just don't like section 31 because they got to do some dirty s*** in order to keep Paradise. People always want peace but they are afraid to go to war for that peace If a few million Klingons got to die then so be it and if a few billion romulans got to die then so be it. All of that is for the good of the federation.
Imagine how stressful it must be for the spouses and children of the Enterprise, always having to deal with red alert and attacks and shaking and stuff. Makes no sense to have them aboard.
It's not really all that common in TNG. Enterprise D was a vessel of science and exploration, and as such there was a lot of traveling to out of the way places to see and scan unusual or rare phenomena, meet new races, engage in diplomacy, and many other nonmilitary activities. TNG-era Enterprise wasn't a warship until she was rebuilt as Enterprise E.
No it doesn't. All it takes is one bad incident and all those women and children are dead. No way to protect them. I know they were trying to play up the non military angle, but it isn't realistic. The galaxy is not populated only by kind alien races. Then there are natural disasters. totally irresponsible. But people are still defending the idea as if it makes sense.
They're built for intimidation over any sort of practicality. It's to maintain the image that the Romulan Star Empire is still going strong, and not relying mostly on the Tal Shiar's reputation to keep the citizens in line.
It's not really the Romulan style to pick an even fight after giving the enemy plenty of warning. I wouldn't be too worried about him shooting unless he cloaked again.
The actor playing Sirol would play the Enterprise D stand-in tactical officer in the Star Trek Generations movie, while Riker and Worf were aboard the Observatory. "Sir, a Klingon Bird of Prey is decloaking off the port bow!" "........what?"
That's how I rolled in STO. 1. Warbird decloaks, 2. Warbird hails me, 3. I cripple it with a phaser/photon torpedo alpha strike 4. I answer the hail. Yes, my character is an Badmiral, why do you ask?
Commander Cyrol knew exactly who he was talking to before saying anything... and probably had already read EVERY Romulan intelligence report on the Enterprise...
@@pwnmeisterage Having to choose between Loyalty to his former captain or his current Captain? So much so, he visited Diana for her Ship Counselors job? Sure sounds Stressfull and Insomnia Inducing for me!
Same never like that either. It makes far less sense the say the Non proliferation treaty/strategic arms limitation of nuclear weapons in real life. Maybe if each side was allowed a agreed upon number of cloaked ships it would be more realistic
It was either that or quadrant wide war the same kind of which happened in DS9. They Roms basically said "if you pursue development of this technology we will invade" and the federation was not prepared to fight a conflict like that after just coming out a cold war with klingons a few decades earlier. So they settled for this treaty instead which proved useful in the long the run to preventing future wars or arms races over perceived advantages. Fed tech surged ahead drastically over the coming years following the treaty surpassing the Romulans cloak or no cloak.
Uh what? Stewart's British. Or you just talking about the extreme politeness? I dunno Canadians don't seem like the "diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' as you reach for a rock" types...
*Talking casually about top secret orders withheld from even Pickard...all while mistakenly using the top of a bent over Guinan's hat - as a drink tray.
It's adorable the polite jabs they throw at each other. Are you telling me a Romulan Commander didn't know he decloaked directly in front of the Enterprise...... You know.......The flagship of Star Fleet..... 😹 A Romulan, who's species is well know for it's covert and intelligence apparatus....... Didn't know what the Enterprise is? And who commands her? That was a funny way of saying: Oh I'm sorry, who are you again?
Growing up in Germany I am surprised how much cooler Picard is in English. Not that his german voice is bad. It is Not. But it gives Picard a much softer tone. The English one is more hierarchic and more direct.
You know when I first watched the premiere episode (first airing in the 80’s) I remember building a Lego federation ship (did that a lot back in the day) of what I thought the new Enterprise would look like. Let’s just say I was bit off. Probably the only thing I got right was that it had a saucer section, star drive section, and 2nacelles. It annoyed me so much it took 5 years to come around to liking the Galaxy class.
Both actors play the fake pleasantry to the point of perfection
"I doubt our objectives are compatible."
They both knew they were hiding something from the other.
That's the beauty of this interaction. They both knew the other was up to something, and they both knew the other knew that they knew. It's all an act, a game that they're playing, and it's fascinating to see.
They both knew that the other was looking for the pegasus
No shit.
This "confrontation " between Picard and the Romulan commander is perhaps my all time favorite Star Trek moment.
I think mine is the one with Tomalak in The Defector. The acting is superb from both men throughout that whole scene and fully highlights everything I love about captain Picard and TNG. The use of the musical score during that scene is absolutely incredible as well with my favorite part being the subtle horn that plays from the Klingon theme right before Picard orders Worf to signal the Klingons to decloak when the theme fully kicks in.
I wish Commander Cyrol had appeared in later TNG and DS9 episodes. Politeness is always badass.
This is why the Brits rock ;)
Same with Commander Mendak from Data's Day (4x11).
Andreas Katsulas as Commander Tomalak seemed to be set up as Picard's nemesis across the Neutral Zone. But the actor was taken up playing G'Kar on Babylon 5. And Katsulas also played politeness very well, with a coating of oiliness and a dash of menace.
"We are conducting a survey of gaseous anomalies."
"How interesting! We are here to execute an exhaustive series of weapons tests."
"I recommend the owned taco stand on Omnicom perci I8 if you're interested in gaseous anomalies."
I can tell that romulan where he can find one, as he's full of hot air
Oops Just let go a gaseous anomaly.
@@hankkingsley2976 gotta watch out for those noxious nebula clouds
How interesting! We too are conducting research involving hot air!
The D'Deridex is a classic and awesome Romulan design
agreed. I think both ships in that scene are beautiful.
@@ninsnumber1fan The artificial singularity... 🥹 Everything is so elegant.
One of my favorite starship designs in all of Star Trek! Top three for sure!
That is one polite Romulan captain.
He was also the Enterprise's tactical officer in Star Trek Generations. "Sir, a Klingon Bird of Prey is decloaking off the port bow!" Sirol went from Romulan captain.....to spy!!
Bob Page 😳
Yup. That's the same guy.
He was being .... polite .... cuz he wanted to bait his counterpoint. both him and Picard KNEW why the other was there.
David Hinton Oh, yes, and the passive aggression was just exquisite.
I wonder why the writers went that route. Usually Romulan captains were much blunter.
"We're conducting a survey of gaseous anomalies."
"Is that the same as hot air?"
"Yes, and we're detecting a *lot* of it."
Hearing and seeing a Romulan Warbird de-cloak will always be awesome
They never seem to de-cloak BEHIND you either, not unless there's also one decloaking in front of you too
@@IrishCarney They did on DS9 once!
@@IrishCarney There goal is not to destroy but to toy and test. The former is more something Klingons would do.
I'd rather be commanding and ordering the same.
Always thought the D'Deridex was the most badass of Star Trek ships. Not counting the Borg cube, of course 🙂
I wish Sirol was in more episodes. I like that he was more polite than other Romulan officers, but he still had that scheming aspect about him.
Tomalak had those qualities as well.
“They have no honor!”
- Worf 😂
Polite but with a smug undertone!
The sight and sound of that warbird decloaking always gave me chills.
So many times as a kid I would imitate that sound and wobble a toy vehicle around to try to copy that de cloaking look
@@IrishCarney Same here too. I have a awesome Romulan D'Deridex class Warbird Toy that I play with a lot.
"It would be an awful shame if Mr. Worf's hand slipped and twelve photon torpedoes struck your engineering section."
lol
Romulan warbird would have destroyed the Enterprise. The D'Deridex was far more powerful then a Galaxy class.
@@nunyabeeswax303 That is not how these things work.
@@nunyabeeswax303 you have to remember the shield strength and additional destructive force your weapons have when captained by Jean Luc Picard. Dude is a HIGH level. Been grinding for years.
Nice Kane profile picture.
The future of trash talk over FaceTime in massive warships... looks good to me
MW2 pregame lobby for the articulate
More like 2 captains trying to gaslight each other.
There's no crapple in the future it's all a
Android, lol.
"Lmao Romulans are rubbish"
*phaser fire slices up the outside of Enterprises' saucer section*
"hahaha Starfleet has much to learn about no-scoping"
*starts cloaking/decloaking rapidly in lieu of teabagging*
*enterprise drops like 4 torpedoes on it's engineering section and it explodes in a ball of fire*
"bruh quit using the noob tube!"
This is a top secret mission that no one can talk about.
We're going to talk about it in a crowded public setting before getting to that, though.
It's called hiding in plain sight; it happens a lot. All you have to do is sit with someone at a table and speak low enough to not grab the attention of others but no so low that you're whispering (which will grab attention) and you can say anything without the concern of being overheard.
@@r0bw00d Except an admiral with a past relationship with this particular officer has two really easy ways to legitimately give classified info to Riker:
1.) Meet him in his quarters to 'reminisce'
2.) Give him the classified info via orders, which he did anyways.
Crowded public settings still offer way too much room for some random person to stumble over and hear something they weren't meant to, and as both Riker and Pressman are senior officers they have a legitimate right to a private area to talk.
@@BrigadierBill There are multiple options for any act. The fact still remains that the easiest way to avoid suspicion is to not behave suspiciously. Do you pay attention to the conversations people around you are having, say, in a restaurant? Despite being in a public place, those talks are still pretty much private. Same goes for this scene. You can disagree with the option, which is fine, of course, but that doesn't mean that you can pass it off as being illegitimate.
As for that last bit, when two people of a higher rank speak to each other, everybody else tends to avoid them. Plus, people in the 24th century have the decency to not eavesdrop on one another.
I noticed that too. OPSEC, whats that in the 24th Century?
Like Trump at Maralargo sharing North Korea intel with campaign donors over dinner and a nice big slice of chocolate cake. A great slice of cake. The best slice. We have nothing but the best chocolate cake at Maralago
Subtle shade from Picard about the Enterprise’s firepower. Loved that exchange between both captains.
A bunch of passive-aggressive dick-waving lol
RCaIabraro “Urinary Olympics”...
@Steve Robertson Not true, I could take 3 of these on in STNG on snes
@@tatlock29 just 3 i can take on several on trek online
For every one you see there's two you don't see.
This guy was up at the top of the list of my favorite Romulans
Ohhhhh I miss this back when phasers and torpedos were last resort.
This stuff is much more interesting and exciting than copy and paste fleets of thousands pew pewing at another copy and paste fleet of thousands in the newer stuff :(
back when the federation was a scientific organisation with point defense armaments, rather than a galactic military with time traveling ships xD
The troll level is at 1000 between the two captains during that exchange.
Picard be like: "What a polite Romulan!......Keep tracking their movement, Lieutenant."
Lmao
Just because you're polite don't mean that we don't think you're up to something
That Romulan always reminded me of James Earl Jones in Conan the Barbarian.
I was trying to figure out what bell he rung - I think you're right
You're not the only one. Here he is with and without the makeup.
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Epi Endless imagine he was demoted to an ensign when he defected to the Federation
ME too.
Yes, same here, I thought it was the same actor. Maybe it's the hair.
That must be the most cuddly Romulan in the history of Trek 😁
The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife. Rule 48
At some point during this episode, Riker slipped away to binge watch Star Trek Enterprise
I can feel the depth of Riker's eyeroll at 3:57 when the Admiral told him that he could NOT even discuss (the true reason behind the search for the Pegasus) with his Captain and friend.
"We are conducting a survey of gaseous anomalies."
"In an asteroid field?"
The Romulan guy, Sirol, is played by Michael Mack, also known as the male Redguard in Oblivion
lmao!
No fucking way, for real?!
You mean the one that sold books in that book shop across from that item store you get a quest from?
"Spriggans! *nAtUrEs' gUaRdIaNs,* MY FOOT!"
holy shit thats the male redguard?!!!
I loved the Romulan commander and Picard trying to 1up each other's guile.
There were many funny moments in TNG, but I always loved the moments when Patrick Stewart (great actor) played Captain Picard as an insincere and struggling actor, and equally loved the "fake sincerity" moments like this one.
"Not at all. But your unannounced appearance might have unfortunate consequences. It would be an awful shame if your ship were damaged due to some misunderstanding."
"Not at all. But your unannounced appearance might have unfortunate consequences. It would be an awful shame if several photon torpedoes suddenly struck the bridge of your ship."
@@tek512 Continuing the steady downward slide in tone and subtlety: "I would hate it if your ass were to sustain injury when I break my foot off in it."
"Hey, you remember that transphasic cloak that was like a big deal with the romulans but then not?"
"Yeah"
"Well what if we used it against the Jem'Hadar?"
Transphasic cloak? federation made a phasing cloak
3:43 "Not many and it's up to us to make sure it stays that way."
I like how the actor widens his eyes at "make sure" to emphasize his point. Good acting.
This upload was blocked, so I shaved off 4 seconds at the end and will be a bit of on the next upload
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Was it his nickname of Ensign BabyFace?
Thanks for the uploads Mike.
like your channel do know know how you get to post the videos without you tube blocking them, If I did it I would get a copy right strike
Really? Jesus suffering christ, pedantic motherfuckers! Also, thank you for all these clips......perfect bitesized chunks of Trek, a few everyday and all that...
Riker got tired of being told how young he looked? I’ll bet he doesn’t have that problem on the _Zheng He._
considering how old he actually is ...... he still looked young in Picard. some people age VERY well.
David Hinton Oh, I agree, he looked good. But he didn’t look young.
and then one day he shaves on the Zheng He
Random officer: "H- Hey look guys, it's captain babyface!"
Riker: :(
@@TechnologicallyTechnical *Acting* captain baby face
Captain Furry Face
Like Riker's face. "Oh not this shyte again."
Kind of a cliffhanger at the end of this clip for those of us who don’t remember what caught Picard’s eye about Riker’s profile.🤔
He was about to comment on the way Riker mounts his seats.
Makes me want to downvote it.
I love the subtext of these little chats.
"It would be a shame if our resident Klingon accidentally beamed over one of his gaseous anomalies onto your bridge"
...I hear the prune juice helps.
@@robertcartier5088 A drink fit for a warrior.
Ah, so this is how Emperor Uriel Septim VII and Baurus met...
Captain Picard was the ideal captain for the Enterprise D in the TNG-era. Who else would you want on a frontier exploring and diplomatic mission than a man who's proven himself in Klingon culture as Worf's "Kam-Jahtee", strategically communicated on par with Romulans, gained very IN DEPTH experience with the Borg, outsmart and outfought Ferengi pirates and was able to grant some temporary self-control and logic restoration to the Vulcan Ambassador Sarek?
The funny thing for me, re-watching this, is how much that reminds me of House explaining his hiring choices (in his case, *to* the people he'd hired).
"Captain picard, I've heard so much about you" but apparently not the fact that he is the captain of the flagship of the federation....
I guess to the Romulans one Galaxy class ship is indistinguishable from any other
@@IrishCarney yep, those large letters and numbers must be hard for them to read. Lol
@@TheTerranscout You, over there, yeah you. Stop making good points. You heard me.
@@TheTerranscout Okay, I get that it's a bit contrived, since the Romulans can presumable read the _Enterprise_ pennant number, but it's still a great moment. I love the small but noticeable reaction the Romulan CO has when he hears Picard's name. After the events of "The Enemy," "The Defector," "Data's Day," "Redemption," and "Unification," Captain Picard must have quite the file from the Tal Shiar.
The Federation should had never agree not to have a cloaking device if anything they should had agree to only use in in their Terroitory
In hindsight, yes... but at the time of the accord, federation was a fast expanding.. technically outpacing classical single dominating species empires... with cloaking device, Federation would be invincible. It would put the balance of power too far off..
well until the dominion they wernt allowed to use cloaking technology, during the war they used extensively even outside the gamma quadrant and they also use cloaked mines. im guessing they laxed on the treaty after the dominion war.
The Federation have a habit of signing stupid treaties in a rush for peace. They didn’t learn their lesson at Algeron, nor with the daft Cardassian treaty where they signed away the sovereignty of their own planets near the border.🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@thehantavirus The only ship cloak the Federation had was on the Defiant, and the device was loaned from the Romulans. The treaty was still in place, though the Dominion War was an exception
@@qasimmir7117 Well... perhaps, without Treaty of Algeron, Dominon would side with Romulans, and Federation would be screwed.
Cdr Serole: 'Some of these asteroids are passing gas and we're sniffing out which ones.'
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00:30 - 01:35 has a classic ’Game of Thrones’ feel; insincere compliments, vague threats, subtle boasts, poorly disguised lying, false friendliness, stilted politeness.
Picard could just as well be Tyrion Lannister or Varys. And the Romulan captain is a sort of Cersei Lannister or Olenna Tyrell.
Good to know that politics and power plays are often similar, whatever the timeline.
definitely how the Federation and Romulan Empire danced around one another for decades.
> insincere compliments, vague threats, subtle boasts, poorly disguised lying,
> false friendliness, stilted politeness.
Diplomacy and polite society in a nutshell.
you mean classic Game of Thrones has a This Scene feel :P
Bruh, that has to be One of the Most Polite Romulan that has ever Existed.
Not many people know Commander Riker and John Locke were stuck on the Island together.
THAAAAT'S where I recognized him! THANK YOU!
They must not remember the big twist of the episode: When they recovered the Pegasus's captain's logs, it turned out the Admiral had been in a wheelchair during his entire command...
Why are they talking about secret orders in the ship's Ten-Forward?
Hiding in plain sight.
Oh how I miss TNG, DS9, Voyager and yes, even Enterprise - when Star Trek was written by talented writers who respected both the characters and the audience.
I toast your post! I might one day watch the train wreck that apparently Discover is. The latest two movies BTW, to me, SUCKED.
J Scott I would recommend reading Star Trek novels instead. STD was unremarkable, imo.
I like how Picard died in the last episode of Picard and everyone acts like it is okay.
@@carladams9345 well when the writers have already killed the entire show one more death isn't anything to write home about
@@carladams9345 Maybe they don't expect SPS to survive until Season 2?
I would have put in the dialogue for Picard: 'I am not sure why you need to remain cloaked to study these "gases".'
Hiding from scary space rocks.
Romulans and Klingons are cloaked by default outside of battle, surely
@@SantomPh Yeah I think it's pretty standard operating procedure.
Jean Luc - Something caught my eye !
Admiral - What ?
Jean Luc - I don't know, it caught my eye and I couldn't read !
"hahaha, I'm a role model."
"....I'm sure you are..."
Burn
The Romulan skipper had the cool, calculated politeness of one who has icewater for blood
Romulan: I hope we didn't scare you. Picard: Ya just think if we had to kick your butt all the way to Romulus. Romulan: haha good one. Well enough of this BS bye
its actually quite remarkable how many of Picards peers, Captains and Admirals alike who look at his actions and mindset with bewilderment bordering on mild contempt
Jonathan Frakes actually grew the beard between seasons - he was going to shave it off, but the producers liked it so much they let him keep it.
I imagine if this had been post DS9 the writers would have alluded to the phase cloak experiments as a section 31 job.
I would be shocked if Section 31 was NOT behind this phased cloak technology.
@@dhinton1 why does everything got to be about section 31? Why not the admiral who has ulterior motives in Starfleet security?
@@attiepollard7847 Because a group of very vocal fanbois love Section 31 and therefore the current writers have to suck S31 off at every opportunity.
@@MasterofSpiders I did not like how the writers made section 31 this bad guy in Star trek discovery that's one of my issues with that show along with making the Klingons different and other things.
@JRPGFan20000 stop it. No they are not trouble. you just don't like section 31 because they got to do some dirty s*** in order to keep Paradise.
People always want peace but they are afraid to go to war for that peace
If a few million Klingons got to die then so be it and if a few billion romulans got to die then so be it.
All of that is for the good of the federation.
One of the better episodes of the series
"We're conducting a survey of gaseous anomalies". Classic sci-fi description of "he who smelt it, dealt it".
He ends the hail with that look of 'I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship'
We should have classes that teach how to be passive-aggressive with extreme politeness like Sirol.
Probably one of the best episodes good exchange from starfleet and the romulins aswell very good including the enterprise cloaking and decloaking.
Imagine how stressful it must be for the spouses and children of the Enterprise, always having to deal with red alert and attacks and shaking and stuff.
Makes no sense to have them aboard.
It's not really all that common in TNG. Enterprise D was a vessel of science and exploration, and as such there was a lot of traveling to out of the way places to see and scan unusual or rare phenomena, meet new races, engage in diplomacy, and many other nonmilitary activities. TNG-era Enterprise wasn't a warship until she was rebuilt as Enterprise E.
No it doesn't. All it takes is one bad incident and all those women and children are dead. No way to protect them.
I know they were trying to play up the non military angle, but it isn't realistic. The galaxy is not populated only by kind alien races. Then there are natural disasters.
totally irresponsible. But people are still defending the idea as if it makes sense.
Stop posting this on every Trek video. 😡
@@davemiller6055 It makes perfect sense: they are explorers.
@@Ragitsu It makes no sense. Civilians and children out there where they could be killed at any moment by who knows what. It's asinine.
It always used to get me just how much a Romulan warbird dwarf's a Galaxy class starship
It's always a shock. But at least the Enterprise is a formidable opponent.
a lot of that is empty space
They're built for intimidation over any sort of practicality. It's to maintain the image that the Romulan Star Empire is still going strong, and not relying mostly on the Tal Shiar's reputation to keep the citizens in line.
what a coincidence! we too were studying gaseous anomalies, in a contested zone, with capital warships armed to the teeth!
After standing down Red Alert, I would have kept it at yellow alert. There is a Romulan ship that could start firing at any time.
It's not really the Romulan style to pick an even fight after giving the enemy plenty of warning. I wouldn't be too worried about him shooting unless he cloaked again.
Ah the episode where I learned why Federation doesn’t have cloaking technology and a good reason
The actor playing Sirol would play the Enterprise D stand-in tactical officer in the Star Trek Generations movie, while Riker and Worf were aboard the Observatory.
"Sir, a Klingon Bird of Prey is decloaking off the port bow!"
"........what?"
Mr worf should have fire phazers & quantum torpedos as soon the romulans decloak
That's how I rolled in STO.
1. Warbird decloaks,
2. Warbird hails me,
3. I cripple it with a phaser/photon torpedo alpha strike
4. I answer the hail.
Yes, my character is an Badmiral, why do you ask?
We’re no quantum torpedoes at that point.
Commander Cyrol knew exactly who he was talking to before saying anything... and probably had already read EVERY Romulan intelligence report on the Enterprise...
So when does Riker go to holodeck and run the program of Enterprise final episode?
That is smeared all over the 7 days they needed to search the system. See 1:45.
Must've been towards the last of those seven days. Because Riker sure got old and fat. Perhaps too much stress, insomnia, and replicated comfort food.
@@pwnmeisterage Having to choose between Loyalty to his former captain or his current Captain? So much so, he visited Diana for her Ship Counselors job? Sure sounds Stressfull and Insomnia Inducing for me!
probably first time would have been after that chat
@@christopherg2347 smeared like wet feces, yes.
"You're a gaseous anomaly."
Douglas Butcher this has the tone of "you're an inanimate fucking object"
It’s a shame this cloaking tech didn’t make a reappearance in later more serious conflicts.
never understood the whole "we won't pursue any cloaking technology" as a part of some treaty with the Romulans. that is the dumbest thing of all time
Same never like that either. It makes far less sense the say the Non proliferation treaty/strategic arms limitation of nuclear weapons in real life. Maybe if each side was allowed a agreed upon number of cloaked ships it would be more realistic
It was either that or quadrant wide war the same kind of which happened in DS9. They Roms basically said "if you pursue development of this technology we will invade" and the federation was not prepared to fight a conflict like that after just coming out a cold war with klingons a few decades earlier. So they settled for this treaty instead which proved useful in the long the run to preventing future wars or arms races over perceived advantages. Fed tech surged ahead drastically over the coming years following the treaty surpassing the Romulans cloak or no cloak.
That was a lovely and polite public tête-à-tête.
A "pleasant" conversation indeed, between two Canadians 😆
Uh what? Stewart's British. Or you just talking about the extreme politeness? I dunno Canadians don't seem like the "diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' as you reach for a rock" types...
@Dan Nguyen That would mean you have experience in being the thrower?
"Not many and it's up to us to make sure it stays that way" he says in a crowded bar with no attempt to prevent anyone overhearing
This Romulan captain was very British.
That Romulan captain has his own Star Battles series in Romulus.
*Talking casually about top secret orders withheld from even Pickard...all while mistakenly using the top of a bent over Guinan's hat - as a drink tray.
It's adorable the polite jabs they throw at each other.
Are you telling me a Romulan Commander didn't know he decloaked directly in front of the Enterprise...... You know.......The flagship of Star Fleet..... 😹
A Romulan, who's species is well know for it's covert and intelligence apparatus....... Didn't know what the Enterprise is? And who commands her?
That was a funny way of saying: Oh I'm sorry, who are you again?
Growing up in Germany I am surprised how much cooler Picard is in English. Not that his german voice is bad. It is Not. But it gives Picard a much softer tone. The English one is more hierarchic and more direct.
Well said John Locke (LOST 2004)
So how long have you had that beard?....
Oh about 2 months, ever since that damn virus locked down all the barbers.
Damm, i can hear the phasers & photons fired during both captains interaction.
Picard was about to let it pass by then something caught his eye
Riker had included a picture of himself naked 😂
The Pegasus should be easy to find. Just scan for the wreckage of the four Cylon base ships she took with her. Voila!
Just realized the actor who played the admiral was also Kendal in Alias.
I miss ‘this’ Picard
What better place to have a conversation over a highly classified system than... Ten Forward?!
Finally the mystery of the bird is unfurled
Great TV show
You know when I first watched the premiere episode (first airing in the 80’s) I remember building a Lego federation ship (did that a lot back in the day) of what I thought the new Enterprise would look like. Let’s just say I was bit off. Probably the only thing I got right was that it had a saucer section, star drive section, and 2nacelles. It annoyed me so much it took 5 years to come around to liking the Galaxy class.
Lt. Boylan?? Ask him about his time on the Cerritos!
Excellent. ♡ T.E.N.
oh, god! how STILTINGLY AWKWARD!!
I love it’s what isn’t said that they both know what they are saying
So much polish and so many rough edges in this clip.
The Warbird and the Enterprise are testing their new tailpipe
Imagine if they had succeeded. Cloaked federation ships would have been a great advantage during the dominion war
da Kameraden
I think you mean MORE cloaked Federation ships. They did have one. :P
Can someone tell me what "caught picards eye"? I watched this show so long ago I cant remember😢
OMG it is John Locke from "LOST"!!! 2:44!!!!!!!