Was I wearing Braces when I tore my ACL and MCL?? What will I wear now??
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Everyone has been asking this, so I figured a video would be a good idea. I was not wearing any braces at the time my ACL and MCL were torn.
Here is some info from DonJoy’s website on the Custom A22 Titanium braces that I’m wearing.
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I gotta be honest. I own mobius braces. I love them. They fit me great. They are however a tad bit bulky, however they are specifically made for riding. Not walking around or anything. I wear klim lite pants and they are great. I personally would never ride without them. They are my favorite. It is all with preference. Just because he thinks that, doesn’t mean you will.
Thanks for that. Personally I'd rather put up with the bulkiness and be able to afford a knee brace over requiring surgery. Prevention over cure every time.
Try pods, very slim and nice to walk around in. Also its made not only for moto, its a medical device! Love mine
@@PedroHeyMan what model to you like?
Kyle, thank you for including information about your rehab, braces and information about your surgery. I just tore my ACL and meniscus while riding and will be getting surgery. I am doing my prehab and preparing for surgery. Keep up the videos. Travis
Dude I have waited with bated breath hoping and praying for you to address this issue and finally my prayers have been answered. I also applaud you for going the extra mile to explain the differences between the braces 😁. I Guess you know what braces I’ll be spending my money on . Thank you 🙏
Thank you for doing this video. It's great that you listen to your viewers.
I ride with Mobius braces and never, ever think about them. Coincidentally, I rode with them today and was bragging about them today. I was bragging that I wear them while I'm riding and they're so comfortable that I then wear them around camp, waiting for the next ride. I've never had them move on me, and I've never had them sweat on me, but, admittedly, I also wear them over under-gear. A guy can get the Mobius for under $400 (for the pair). They're excellent.
That said, the videos are
excellent. Keep them coming.
Thanks for answering the question we all wanted to know.
Thank you very much for the recommendation! This is so helpful because I don’t ride dirt bikes but I do work as a stuntman and I need low profile braces and adding pads to them can be rough working many hours at a time. So this added pad that can be purchased with the brace is such a relief!!! 👊🏻😊
That what I was looking for! Thank you! Hope your knee gets better soon!
Good choice with mobius. I just broke my patella cup on mine and they said send them both in we will tune them up for free. Should get them back tomorrow
Best channel ever made my life easier thank you 🙏
Asterisk Ultra Cell 2.0 are amazing. So comfy. I suggest and recommend them! Good luck with your knee man
love that you go into detail.
I have POD K8 full carbon fibre braces. So many adjustments available in them that you can pretty much have a custom fit feel and they are built to be completely dual sport so the knee cap gaurds can come off making them way lighter and comfortable for every say use. A little more affordable at $1300 CAD for 2. But I love them and never ride without them.
I have torn both ACL’s and use the Bregg Fusion XT’s. However i don’t have need guards on them. Knees are no fun. Best of luck with the rest of your recovery!
I’ve had a cti for skiing for years works great, I’m sure there’s better ones though! Just got back into dirt riding at 51 yrs old gotta get one for the other knee. May have to look into that one to compare. Anything is better than nothing! Gotta protect those old knees!! Thanks for the insight. Cti WAS the industry leader back in the day, but I knew there was something better out there these days!! Ride on!! Good luck with a speedy recovery!
Good advice! Thank you. Enjoying your channel!
Hi bud good news for you I am picking up my second hand huski 300i in to weeks only done 70 miles looks like new.keep doing your vids and keep getting better.🇬🇧👍
I don't know why I don't like you. You typically are accurate and honest.
I completely tore my ACL/PCL/Meniscus when riding (without a brace... oooof). I have had many custom braces made over the last 6 years (Ossur, Don Joy etc.). I actually tore my ACL 2 separate times while wearing 2 different custom made Ossur CTI braces. I love my Don Joy! I think I have the beefier version of your custom brace ($2300 vs. $800), but it's the only one I trust my knees too. Well worth the cost and pain of going through multiple knee surgeries you could avoid! I have probably crashed hard 20+ times while wearing my Don Joy and know for a fact that my knee would have torn completely again with any other brace. As a bonus, Don Joy paints your brace with heavy-duty paint and they look good for a long time. I definitely agree with your comment about the CTI being inadequate for motocross and even trail riding. I have been able to convince my insurance to pay for my braces because they understand the $2300 cost is going to be less than more surgeries (they usually agree after significant fighting and back-and-forth).
All of the MX knee braces work themselves down, it's really uncomfortable but they've protected me for over 20 yrs not just on my bikes, snowboarding, skiing, mountain biking etc. and I've had plenty of accidents, fortunately, I've never hurt my knees which is a shocker in SX and MX. I've had my hips replaced, shoulders replaced and spine replaced, pins and rods throughout my body but my knees have been great because I started wearing knee braces before any accidents.
I ride with Mobius braces every time I ride. They are more comfortable even than the shin guards I have owned (Thor Force and Leatt Brace Dual Axis ). And I ride here in the -hell-on-earth, humid heat of South Carolina. I literally don't think about them when I am on the bike. Just my experience with Mobius. Heal well and fast.
I have a CTI custom. They not only control the knee, but you can adjust a different knee bending angle. I.e. you can settle it to 90 degrees or to 45 or to 30 or less as you like
CTI customs are the best
I totally agree Kyle, I purchased a brace like yours from my therapist for 850 and I put my knee shin guard right over it comfortably, rather than the big boxish riding brace..
Thanks for the video Kyle.
I love my DonJoy braces. I got them for college football they are way more comfortable than all the others I’ve tried. I use them when riding dirt bike as well. The one thing I’ve noticed is that you will catch the hinge sometimes on your plastics and frame. You get used to it after awhile. After using them consistently you will probably feel bare without them.
You said it was so good to all of your subscribers. Doing so, people might have bought them and hated them from the start. Maybe u should tell your subscribers these complaints in the initial video
Very good point. We are supposed to trust these product discussions, but most of the time either a conflict of interest or "fear of saying something negative" gets in the way. I said something negative on some online forums about my Baja off road experience and got all sorts of flak for it.
Dagster Blaster Thanks for the agreement
The problem is, those complaints are made up. They are not hot with proper underwear, they fit in your pants, you may just have to buy the next larger size with some of them. And the level of protection and comfort they provide is excellent. Good luck riding motocross in that thin patella covers from Don Joy. He paid big bucks for them and now wants to justify his choice.
Thank you for sharing this video about your knee brace!😄
Hope you are feeling better !
Thank you for the awesome review...acl, mcl, tibial plateau fracture 4 months ago, waiting on surgery still due to major blood clotting issues but def gonna get fitted for braces when it's all said and done
Exact same thing just happened to me, knee hit a friggin tree. Meet with a surgeon Thursday.
Great Video , thanks for creating it .
I have the mobius x8s and wear the compression knee sleeves with them and don't notice them being too hot. Of course my temps are not always in the 80°F+ range when riding, only sometimes. Did you wear knee sleeves when trying them? The foam padding next to skin will make them hotter, skin cannot breathe etc. Agree they are kind of bulky, I wasn't too sure about them when first I got them but I forget about them after a little while. I have one or two pair of older pants that are too tight to fit the braces in but I've quit wearing those pants anyway.
Good review cheers🇬🇧👍
Man, a torn ACL over the summer riding season... Stay strong haha
Jaughn Deau damn, hope you’re back quick as possible man
Okay I will say this right now I bought leatts full length underarmor style design pants that fold up over the brace to reduce the falling down effect. Fixed all the problems I had with my braces I still have to make sure set the pants correctly but that is a minor inconvenience. I still wear my braces at all times I would rather be hot and burn more calories riding than not be protected. Also I bought moose Sahara gear this helped with the heat issue so a few things I have found cost be less the 1800 dollars. Also after I stepped off my bike recently at 30 to 35 in a wheelie I would say my mobius braces do there job no knee injury and I walked away without a scratch
Hi. Great vid! Always enjoy your vids and look forward to them. Will you please provide us with an update? Are you wearing a set now each time you ride? Have your tried the pods k8? I’m thinking about getting them.
If you look at 2.43 you can see that the straps of the Don joy brace are much higher. One of the main features of the mobius brace is the x wire system. That is designed to help protect your knee against over extension injuries. With the Donjoy you won't get that benefit because there is nothing stopping the back of your knee coming out of the brace and over extending your knee.
not true, because the DonJoy is an over under design, the Mobius is not. Ask me how I know as I sit here with a completely destroyed knee from wearing Mobius. All other knee braces with out the over under design is basically just a pimped out guard.
The anti rotation tether is only available on the Asterisk thats why i chose them. I Wish the other brands had them. They might be a better option to protect your ACL .
Speedy recovery
Hey Kyle, thanks for the video - could you go in to more of your reasoning why you preferred the a22 over the defiance III?
I have been using the POD MX K4, and pretty happy with them.... took me about 3-4 rides to get used to them, and now can hardly notice I have them.... thanks for sharing your thoughts
Totally understand I have the same issue with my knee braces and so I wear knee guards but I have to admit you got me thinking about it
SO TRUE! I had the mobius and it was really tough getting on and off the bike and I’m 6’2”. I could barley swing my leg over the seat because they wouldn’t flex much. Once on the bike they were ok but they felt SO restrictive I couldn’t enjoy myself. I think they are great for MX riding where you’re not on and off the bike a bunch.
Your experience matched mine.
Great vid with an actual real life test for the Donjoy.
I’m sure it’s everything you said it is.
Personally being a Mobius and EVS bracelet owner. I can tell you that the EVS felt more robust and during squeezing the tank, I couldn’t feel stress on the LCL, I do with the Mobius.
If the number two harness is in or below your knee crease, you’re not aligning it correctly.
On Mobius, make sure that your knee is at 90° and push it firmly from the #1 strap area. Then tighten the #1 strap up as high as you can comfortably fit it. Now the #2 harness will be above the incorrect position where it was in the knee crease. Fastening the #1 strap as described is the key to stopping migration.
I ride 5 to 6 hours days or longer and don’t experience any migration but I don’t notice the heat. Maybe I’m just used to it?
Those Mobius are the best "off the shelf" brace in the business bro (outside of maybe, CTI). They may have a little more bulk due to the patella guard, but go out there and line up behind a gate with a ton of 450's kicking roost/rocks at you and you'll want the knee protection.
and if you can read an instruction manual they are as "custom fit" as the unicorn tear braces he's pimping now. Went through 2 sets of custom CTi in the last 2 years before I actually pulled the trigger on Mobius. CTi's were "free" under insurance and I paid out of pocket for the Mobius. I'll do it again when the time comes too.
@@dzhitshard ???
@@dzhitshard Are you a shill? Nobody on earth agrees with you.
@@bradleythomsen3083 I'm sorry your ability to comprehend instructions is limited. The medial lateral fitting of all the knee braces mentioned is tuned with foam pads. CTi, DJ, Mobius etc. ALL of them, even the "custom fit" ones. The ortho tech who shows people how to put their braces on changes the velcro backed foam pads for people who aren't intelligent enough to do it themselves. Best of luck
I would have to disagree with most of this entirely. I've been wearing Mobius X8 braces for about a year (around 65 riding hours) and I think they are incredible. If they are uncomfortable or too hot for you, I'd say you either got the wrong size off the bat and/or didn't fit them correctly with the interchangeable pads they come with. When I bought mine, I had to change some things around to make them fit well and comfortably, but they come with easy to follow directions on how to do it. I also wear stance moto socks under them which help with comfort. If they feel tight or bound up when you sit on the bike and bend your knee, you may have been putting them on wrong on top of them not being fitted right. You are supposed to secure them with your knee bent as if you were sitting on the bike, then snug them slightly after that. I've had various close calls and I feel that these braces saved and protected me every time, and I personally don't even notice that they are there. I have a few friends that have them that love them as well. Its also hard to compare braces that are $600 for a pair to braces that are going to end up being $1800 for a pair. I'm not just trying to be a naysayer, just want another opinion out there for anyone who may be considering getting them.
Thanks for the comment. You disagree that I like the Don Joy brace better in every way :) I even worked with the owner of Mobius and sent him my measurements when ordered his braces last year, so I know I got the correct size. I'm glad you like your Mobius braces. IMO, they don't compare and I won't be wearing an off the shelf style brace any longer. Custom fit, custom built is the only way to go for me since fitment is everything.
those don joy braces do not look like they will offer any where near the impact protection that the mobius braces do. The don joy braces almost look pathetic in comparison. Remember we're riding dirtbikes not mountain bikes.
@@red303dat wow! I hope he remembers your sage-like advice! WTAF???
I'll have to go to the VA and tell them I tore my knees up so I can get some high speed braces too.. lol
Any luck? I'm going to try this.
I have the Donjoy defiance custom and it is amazing. I've had a bunch of other braces and the Donjoy fits far better than any of them. It's incredibly strong, light, and comfortable. I've had it on for 12-14 hours a day during gnarly dual sport rides and barely notice it's there.
The Donjoy patella protector is garbage however. I really don't like how they attach to the brace and I feel like the impact brace fitment. I ended up using some Leatt knee/shin guards that I just wear over the brace. They're a bit more bulky, but they are a lot more comfortable and protective.
Interesting.
Awesome comment. This is what we need to read/hear/see!
Might be worth him purchasing and doing another video.
Off the shelf donjoy with force point hinge can be bought for approx $900 otd for both (including patella guard). There are not as light as the a22 and not custom but they are still top notch.
No matter the brace, I have been wearing answer raving gear since I was 8. I’m 17 now. I wear knee braces, and my knee braces work great with it. I do recommend trying answers gear.
I tore my ACL in March. Surgery is scheduled next month. I wasnt willing to sacrifice my summer riding with my kids. I got the mobius pair. They are a bit uncomfortable and warm but a little sweat running down my leg is worth a it. I rode this afternoon and after 5 min of riding you forget they are there.
Greta review!!
I have the Mobius and wear them with Fox sleeve socks and they fit great with my klim pants and Im 6'1 185. I do suggest some light tape over the straps to avoid the tightness from backing off on 6 hour rides. I also ride in the blazing heat and they are totally fine and I my body temp runs hot. Knee heat is the last thing on my mind. Protection is key and I dont mind investing but $2,000 to outfit both knees with braces and the pads is tough but I'd be interested in doing a comparison review.
Great video! I agree 100% I’ve torn ACLs in both knees and multiple times on my right. I also use the don-joy braces with the knee pad and think it’s the best protection possible. I do not remember the model, but it is a Kevlar and Caron fiber. Your A22 looks a little slimmer than mine are, and that is my one complaint. Mine are a little hard to make fit in the boots. How do you like the fit of yours in your boots, and I notice this video is a few months old. How are you liking them while on the bike?
The leatt X frames are not bad. When I wear braces I wear zip off riding shorts lots of air flow. And only 500-600 for both.
POD K4, K8 are good too
Awesome insight. Thanks for sharing Kyle!
Too bad Donjoy is not available in Europe. Will either go with Ortema/Suicide-Protection or the new Pod K4 again I guess.
This is one of the first videos I've ever 'disagreed' with you on. You are correct that fit is everything, and with every person being unique, it's inevitable that some products won't work as well for some people. That said, your complaints with the X8 sound completely alien compared to my experiences, and the experiences of many friends of mine. I've never heard anyone complain of them being too hot, and we ride in 95+ degree, humid-as-hell NC. They are "bulky" compared to regular knee guards, but the very easy fix is to buy pants with extra leg room to fit. I've had a half dozen pairs of pants since I got mine, and all fit without issue. Same with my friends. As for the fitment, they are "off the shelf", but they literally come with a dozen different pads to get the fit where they need to be. It did take me several rides to get everything dialed in, but once I did, I completely forget about them for the day. Will they be as good as a custom set that cost 3-5x as much? Certainly not, but mine fit darn good, and I have no issues with articulation at all.
So while your issues with them sound very real, and your praises of custom braces sound very plausible, the fact is that the overwhelming majority of riders will be well served by something off the shelf like the Mobius X8s. I think you're the exception here, not the rule.
Sam from the channel had the exact same experience as me with the Mobius braces. Just saying :)
@@DirtBikeChannel a helmet feels hot and bulky. Would you ride without one?
I have to agree with the above, seems a tad silly to own braces and not wear them. We only have one pair of knees and even after an operation, no joint is ever the same again.
The reality for most riders is that it's a stretch affording the mobius, let alone custom braces.
Hey bud I tore my acl in my left and right knee. I tore my right knee first door arenacross in New York when i was 16 . Had surgery got prescribed a cti 2 custom knee brace. Did my rehab started racing again and went to unidilla national and tore my left acl not wearing a brace on that knee. So went through surgery and everything and got a cti custom brace for that knee as well. In my opinion they àre great braces but I'll tell ya I could not keep those things in place for the life of me. I was constantly pulling them up. I beat the crap out of them and they stayed together. I was do for New ones and I looked into the Donjoy defience 3 custom braces. I went to the doctors office who performed my operations and he just wrote me out a prescription for both left and right braces. Got à cast made of each knee and had both braces in like a month free of charge other than my custom paint job and the knee cap protectors. I'll tell you these donjoys are so comfortable . They do not migrate at all . If your looking for good quality braces I would go with donjoys or cti. With the cti braces don't be shy if they don't fit or stay in place speak up right away to get the best fit. With the cti bràces I didn't speak up because they were my first braces and figured they all did that. But if you have a cool knee doctor have him write u out a prescription for whatever braces you choose and your insurance should cover the chàrge.
I've had a very different experience with the Mobius braces. I've been riding with them for several months now in the 90+ degree Iowa heat and haven't noticed them being hot, restrictive, or uncomfortable. Granted, I wear knee brace sleeves so I don't notice the heat. Also, I'm a little odd in that I have a 36" waist but skinny chicken legs, so I have a ton of room in my riding pants. I think its really just a crap shoot on whether or not they're going to fit well.
Have the Asterisk for 11 years (can`t ride without them), and never had any knee problems.
It`s a bit silly buying knee braces, and go ride without them (or with just some knee guards)..
I guess I'll throw in my .02. I wear the Mobius X8 knee braces with Fox Flexair gear. I live in Phoenix, AZ and it gets a little hot here in the summer (insert sarcasm). I ride in the desert/ Enduro's, Mountain climbs. IDGAF how hot it is (TBH I don't even notice it). The Mobius to me is the most protective knee brace there is, and gives me confidence while riding (I've had just about every off the shelf knee brace you can buy). If you can afford the Don Joy or CTI custom (without using insurance) great. If not, then in my opinion the Mobius are not that bulky or hot. Of course all of this...is just my opinion
I wear Breg custom knee brace. It is the German medical knee brace company. The design is very similar to Donjoy. I have Asterisk and Mobius but the custom fit of Breg is way better than the others. After wearing the custom fit knee brace, you know what is the true comfort and never go back.
I've got the Don Joy Defiance and it does a great job. Luckily for me, insurance covered it when the surgeon prescribed it or i probably wouldn't have ended up getting it. But seeing that A22, I wonder if it might be a good option to look into for those times I know the brace will be beneficial, but i won't be needing to worry about contact (i was playing soccer when my knee injury happened and why they suggested the defiance).
I find the Mobius braces to be awesome. They give so much protection you can just wear them with boots and a pair of shorts in hot weather.
i own and ride with the mobius x8 braces , no complaints from me. Also i live in the middle of western aus where can be as hot as hell. Also reading through the comments looks like the consensus is the mobius is a good brace
Kyle, now that you've been back into the swing of riding again I have no doubt that you are wearing your DonJoy's for every ride. I have a few questions post second time around.
1. Are you using the DonJoy Patella knee cup with the shin guard or have you moved on to some other type of knee guard?
2. Your right leg has undoubtedly gained muscle mass by now. Have you had any reason to have your leg remeasured and a new brace re-fitted?
3. Could you make a follow up video about the brace and how it feels to be using it in everyday riding situations?
I’ll take you mobius knee braces - they will go great with my non existing ACL. :-)
Tore my ACL less than a month ago riding while wearing my custom CTi braces. I had the #2 wedge (There are 5 levels to adjust extension) in the hinge at the time of the crash. Strain MCL and PCL, minor lateral meniscus tear. I have had a Donjoy brace for my left knee from tearing that ACL in my teens. It fit well, however it does not have a comfortable knee cup. The design hasnt changed much in 20 years for the knee cup to be improved. I like my CTi braces but I recommend the #3 wedge. The #4 wedge is too much. The #2 was clearly not enough to prevent hyperextension. My knees had a natural hyperextension from birth so part of it is case by case. But I would rather go without a helmet than knee braces at this point. That's how bad this sucks
Did you lift weights or do squats before? I'm curious how strong your legs were.
Sorry about your injury. I am on month 14 on a ripped apart achilles, and just broke a couple few bones in my other foot. Frustrating stuff. I can probably ride after 10 days of that, but none of my boots fit, foot is too swollen...
You can get something called a "Fit Board" to continue to work your muscles, which you will lose if you don't work on them. You can also swim. I tore a calf muscle due to my achilles rupture, about 4-5 months after the original injury due to weakening of muscles. I'm 50 yrs old, so the recovery time of injury is all a sudden more noticeable.
All that said? I never quit riding, I was off roading the day after my achilles tear. I couldn't walk, but I could ride...
Dunno about Mebius, but I use Asterisk Ultra Cell brace and have zero issues with comfort, heat or their bulk. It's put on and forget. Yeah you need to choose pants accordingly but in these days it's not a problem at all. Also Asterisk has bigger "arms" that wrap around the leg than mebius or that custom brace has. And it's a very good thing as bigger arms mean less chance of brace rotating at impact and not doing it's job.
Also you MUST wear some kind of sleeve under your brace, it's day and night difference in comfort level. Asterisk came with one but it can be easily made out of old base layer.
Totally agree. I been using that for more than 7 years, try review on asterisk!!
You said everything spot on.
Asterisk also attaches the boot the brace, so it's supposed to reduce twisting injuries. That seems like a pretty big deal. I've got the entry level RS9's and trying to decide between Asterisk, Leatt, or POD...etc..Plus heat is an issue where I ride too. Any recommendations?
@@RacinJason Do yourself a favor and avoid PODs.
Do you like the fastening system...? Seems to be an issue with some. I'm on the fence
Thanks
The biggest complaint I've had with the braces I've had asterisk cell, and now fox pods. Is they're so damn bulky you don't feel like you can grip the bike as well. If those donjoy's are smaller with better protection ill be getting fit for a set.
sorry for you not wearing your braces perhaps a little pain with heat and discomfort would have paid off but on the up side because it's good to think positive the fuel you saved will have offset the mobious cost happy riding
I gotta admit that this channel taking on massive amounts of medical liability is impressive!
A knee brace shoot out would be cool to watch
I wear mobius braces and they are really comfortable. No problems with heat for me. Do you wear anything under your braces? That makes a huge difference. For an off the shelf brace they are really good IMO. If I was to get a custom set of braces for riding then I would definitely go with CTI.
if it makes you feel better, I just came from PT for a small brake above my ankle and there I met a guy that tore his ACL from a small low speed slip while weareing braces
I think for most people most of the time the mobius are great!! Ive had them for a year and love them maybe they just dont fit your legs.. All knee braces will have pros and cons. However the donjoys have a massive con..the price!!! Id also like to know why you previously said the mobius were so good??
My dad tore his acl and he has a donjoy brace and he normally just wears knee pads for moto and now when he rides he doesn't even use the brace. He only uses it for hockey because that's when how knee is actually twisting
Pod braces are pretty good. You should compare them too.The k8 I believe is the carbon fiber ones.
The patella cup design is all wrong in Pods.
@@nestserau x2. I can't stand my POD K4's. Will be replacing them ASAP.
I had a pair of mobius braces and had the same issues as you. To me... they were crap. Those braces are completely covered on the front which makes them have 0 air flow, and the x brace on back wouldn’t allow me to bend my knee. I have the pod k4 braces now used with a set of asterisk knee brace pants and they are absolutely amazing. Any brace is better than no brace but you should have tried a different pair if you were not pleased with the mobius!
As far as pants from what I have experienced is fly has the best amount of space for braces in the knee area and I’m a 32 also.
Sucks to see you injured but good luck with recovery! I’d be absolutely crazy by now without riding!
The more ventilation wholes you add, the greater is the risk to get traumatized. Mobius is made with professional MX in mind. And I don't agree that any brace is better than no brace. If it doesn't fit you properly it can do more harm than good.
Nice comparison, but I bought the mobius’ and been very content with them. I’ve fallen with them on day 3 of wearing them and I am pretty sure they saved me a ligament in that crash. I don’t find them hot or uncomfortable as well.
I’ve wore knee braces along time I’ve always used cti one of my friends uses Don Joy I’ve had minor injuries with my braces one he has has torn his acl with his braces on. I’m not saying cti is better just that the one thing knee braces have a hard time doing is preventing twisting motion injuries both of our injuries have been when you toe hooks something and your foot turns backwards. My injury broke my lower leg which the brace can’t prevent, his torn his acl. One thing Don Joy offered him was 1000$ insurance if you tear an acl or mcl while wearing there braces.
After watching your video a have called DonJoy twice and went to get fitted for DonJoys. All three times I have inquired about the A22’s and all three times I have been told by different reps that the Defiance is what to get for motorcross or sports. They told me that the A22 was not made for sports and would not give the protection that is needed.
Yeah, you're right. The Defiance III description says it's for motocross and the A22 is for non-contact sports:
From their web site: www.donjoyperformance.com/donjoy-defiance-iii-custom-knee-brace
"The Defiance III is one of our strongest knee braces by DonJoy and is recommended for athletes participating in high-collision sports, like football, motocross, or skiing. ...[snip]...If you are involved in non-contact sports, require a lightweight brace to maximize speed, or want a custom brace for everyday wear we recommend the DonJoy A22 custom knee brace.
Same here... I like the low profile of this A22 but it doesn't look like it has the strength for motor bike duties. On the fence...
Oh man, same story for me. Custom CTI braces and I was wearing my knee pads. Surgery next week for a torn ACL
jbartziokas I think I’ve torn my ACL just 2 days ago. Going for a MRI tomorrow. Did you have your CTI braces on at the time?
LEVz.Adventures no I wasn’t wearing them.
jbartziokas thanks. How did surgery and recovery go?
LEVz.Adventures surgery went good, recovery was rough and long for me. My knee got infected at the start and I was in the ER every day for a week tell they figured out what was wrong. I went to physiotherapy twice a week once I was able. Started riding about 8 months after surgery and didn’t feel completely comfortable with my knee at racing tell 12 months. Now I’m pretty much 100% with a little less range in flexibility in my operated knee.
@@jbartziokas Thanks! I'll be getting my MRI scans tomorrow then off to the doctor so have them analysed. Good times!!
I recommend the Leatt X-Frame Hybrids. A lot cheaper than the donjoy and they don’t move down my leg and the straps are replaceable if they wear out and you can buy one brace at a time if you break one of them.
Really late to the party here, but could not disagree more with everything you are saying about the Mobius Knee Braces.
I don't understand why you are bashing the Mobius so much. Wait actually I do, this is clearly an ad for the Don Joy Braces!
The Mobius are not designed to be worn post injury, against the skin walking around the house and "watering the trees". They are to be worn to prevent an injury. Would you rather be in the situation you were in or have prevented the injury and have a little sweat run down your leg, come on?
Even in your still shots of the Don Joy Brace you have on a brace sox between your skin and the brace.
I ride MX and have worn Mobius Knee Braces for over a year. I am in no way affiliated with Mobius.
They are very comfortable. I wear knee brace sox under them and do not get hot. The braces do not slide down or move in any way during a full day of riding at the track. I will never ride without them.
Mine fit great under my Fox and O'Neal gear. My Son's fit under his A-Star, TLD and Thor gear.
Be truthful, the clicking when you are walking is the lock out stop, not some weird issue with the brace. Which one do you have installed? It looks like you have the thick stop installed. There are different sized lock out pieces.
It looks like you have them on to low, the rear tendon support should be a little higher on you thigh.
The Mobius website explains how to measure your leg before ordering so you order the correct size and have specific instructions on how to put them on. They come with several pads all being a different thickness so you can make sure they fit properly.
$600.00+ for the pair is expensive but it is WAY WAY better than a $40,000.00+ surgery, hospital stay, rehab and time off the bike.
You would think for $800.00 (per leg) the custom brace you are really really pushing would come with the knee and shin guard and not be an additional $100.00. Where is your consistency? You knock 6D helmets for not including an extra ($24.00) visor when ordering a helmet but are okay with an extra $100.00 per knee brace for pads?
$1,800.00 for Knee braces is so far out of line and unrealistic for the average MX / Trail / Desert rider.
If the Mobius knee brace is so bad then why do so many top pro riders wear them?
Top tier athletes usually do not pay for safety equipment, i.e. the college linebackers you refer to and higher pro level athletes so the cost is irrelevant to them.
I'm researching the subject and most people recommend trying as many brands as possible. They all fit differently, so if you've got the spare cash order a few and return what you don't keep. The Mobius's in particular don't work well with skinny legs.
I wear right knee brace by Bled and when I go riding I wear Aryse knee brace because more lighter! Also I had upgrade pads to icon d30 ghost pads insert to RAC3 denim jean mostly I need those pads for left knee 100% full replace!💯
I tore my ACL while training Brazilian jiu-jitsu. biggest take away, find a PT that is use to working with athletes
I bought the same mobius x8 and i noticed its to massive and i cannot wear my pants normally so i sold them...now i am looking for leatt x frame, evs axis, or pod k8 v2,
I just tore my ACL wearing Asterisk’s ultra cell 2.0 a couple weeks ago. I’m not sure the mediums were a good fit for me despite matching the sizing chart. A good fit is super important. Will have to check out the don joy equipment going forward.
I’m in the same situation. Tore my knee up in an EVS carbon. Going to look at donjoy.
Did you lift weights or do squats before? I'm curious how strong your legs were.
What if you start lifting an working the legs a lot an they get bigger in size for your braces can they refit them or do you have to get new custom built braces? Curious
Be thankful your legs get bigger..
I know this is three years old but i wanted to add a comment that others looking for knee braces could read and hopefully assist in their decision making.
I currently wear the Mobius knee braces. I wear them every time i ride,l and have had some pretty good crashes with them on. Not to mention I’ve had sticks and branches pierce my pants over the braces. These braces in my opinion offer the most protection from injury you can attain from a knee brace, knee armor perspective.
Regarding comfort? Couple they be more comfortable? Perhaps, but potentially at the expense of protection. I will say that once riding I forget all about the braces and don’t even feel them.
Do they slide down? In one word NO.
Quality? I’ve put close to 100 hours on mine and one of the straps got cut in a crash. It still works as the cut isn’t all the way across the strap but it will need replacing eventually. The plastic and foam besides being beat up is as solid and spongy as the day i bought them.
I would highly recommend the Mobius knee braces/guards. Your ACL will thank you.
Regarding the Don Joy? As a physician I can certainly support the points made in the video. My personal opinion is that as a brace the Don Joy is the industry gold standard. However, as a guard, intended for dirt bike riding, I can’t recommend it. By putting a knee guard over it that doesn’t fit with the brace itself is a hassle and probably lacks some protection as the guard will invariable shift around.
Whatever you do buy, just do it soon and don’t risk an ACL injury or penetrating injury to the leg.
Was trying to skip the add the whole video only to realize it was the video
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A lot of people with complaints on here bought the wrong size. They need to be professionally fitted to you. I am 6’ 3” and wear a small. When I worked at the dealership the mobius rep said he had only ever sold like 3 largest in his career. Most average riders are x small- medium
This is some great info! I’ve been considering knee braces because I don’t want a major knee injury but know I won’t wear them if they aren’t comfortable. That’s why I don’t wear a neck brace. Custom is definitely the way to go. The best gear is always the gear that you wear
i have some pod k8s , hard enduro terrain , i cant event tell they are there when riding , they are great
As a 35 year ski onstructor: most ACL injuries involve a backward- twisting fall. LIke IN a steep clomb when you jump off a bike and try to save the climb. After watching a lot of climbing fails The backward-twisting fall i svery common in enduro
EBAY or Craigslist. Purchased DONJOY Armor Forcepoint for $75 bucks (Regular MSRP $500+), they are not custom fit, but unless you have freakish leg proportions or someone else is paying for it you don't really need custom braces. There are a couple of good videos as well as the DonJoy site for determining what size you need. Best protection for your knees if you are wrestling a 250/450 linebacker trying to sideline you for 6 months.
U need to use Asterist ultra cell 4.0... the reason why is the ONLY knee brace that incorporates with your boots. Your knee is not made to twist. Your hip is. When you lock knee brace with boots.. yup insane protection
I thought my mobius braces are fairly comfortable for what they are. took me a few hours of swapping pads to get them there with some stance knee brace socks I don’t mind them at all. They are toasty very toasty. Still need imaging and to see an orthopedic but the er doctor is pretty sure I tore my acl was being dumb riding wheelies with no gear on...
Question for you knee brace users out there. I have the pod K4s. Great braces but I notice the straps keep coming loose, even when I tighten them. Any one have any suggestions? I’ve been thinking about getting sleeves to wear over them to keep the straps in place
I used tape to keep them on. But my brace fell apart after a race and I kept riding and I have reinjured my knee. Damaged cartilage. It sucks