Protect your knees from injury
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2024
- If you want to be riding dirt bikes or enjoy action sports for many years to come, this video shows you why finding a long-term solution for protecting your knees is critical.
Some riders think knee pads are sufficient, but they do not help protect you from hyper-extension, twisting or compression. In this video, Adam Riemann explains his experiences with kneebraces and the support they can offer during riding and or crashing your dirt bike.
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I can't recommend this highly enough. I'm currently in physio after a minor ACL repair following a first lap motocross pile-up in March which also resulted in a leg break. I was wearing my POD K8s at the time and was a little disappointed until I showed the surgeon what I'd been wearing and he said he was 100% sure that without the brace it would have been a knee dislocation and all sorts of long term damage. Instead I got away with day surgery and a few months rehab, and if I'd have been happy with a 90% recovery I wouldn't have even needed the surgery.
I was an early adopter of off-the-shelf knee braces and the Asterisk Cells I invested in back in 2000 lasted over 15 years with a little care and maintenance. I expect at least a decade out of the PODs - this isn't a big investment when spread over the lifetime of use, people spend more on graphics. In all that time, over 20 years of enduro and motocross, this is first knee injury I've had and I'm convinced that's down to wearing braces.
One thing I must commend you on Mr. Riemann is that you take safety and riding skill extremely serious. I truly appreciate the time and effort you put in to sharing your knowledge with the rest of us.
I will never bad mouth the use of braces and highly recommend keeping knees protected. But I broke my right knee twice through impact. both times while wearing a leading brand knee brace. After that I went back to pads. I found I was more at risk from impact than I was from twisting. Knee pads are not all created equal so if you choose that route get a good one that fits well. Leatt make a good version in their 3DF range but the TP 199 is apparently also good. I find them much more comfortable and they don't slip or move and my movement on the bike feels more natural. The best advice I can give is keep your knees strong. Squats are your best friend. I'm 53 and still riding the same way I always have despite two reconstructions in my right knee. The key for me was training after surgery and literally doing squats every day.
I wore custom made braces for most of my years riding. Found they make me a little more reckless with my leg placement.
Probably been injured just as much with them on as with them off. The mobility limitation probably put me on the ground more. Wear TP199 mostly now.
Kind of torn on the safety benefit. I've also limited chest protector use to rocky days. I've broken at least 11 ribs and lost one lung wearing them... and none while not.
My desire for impact protection is why I wear the mobius braces. One thing they could do to improve them further would be to add D3O pad material in them for added protection.
@@rimshot223 Leatt Hybrid has that. But the pad isn't attached to the brace. I've crashed with them on as well as POD and Asterisk. POD are the least painful because the frame takes the hit. Leatt hurt the most. I've also been pole vaulted by a downed tree with PODs on. The limb speared into the brace frame just below the knee pad. It's a very beefy section. I was going 15mph and the rear end of the bike was lifted into the air and knocked to the side. My knee was the fulcrum. Not even a bruise afterwards. No way would a knee pad have saved me there.
Thanks for your comment. I have the TP199s and I have the youth version for my 6 year old son who races 50cc motocross. Has saved him numerous times wiping out in big rutts and jumps.
Nice words Craig,I do squats almost every day.I cant get on with knee braces and use modded soft pads /acerbis knee guards.I use my leg as a counterweight on corners sometimes but keep it higher than it should be to avoid impact.Its slightly slower but im not in a race pro.
I also personally think that 2 strokes are more dangerous as with the addictive rush of power means its easier to get out of control.
Well said Adam. I was given the same speech years ago and the amount of times they have saved me is incredible.
I am thinking a lot about knee protection since this crash Adam. I know this would end up as a bad trip without knee braces. Video is spot on on the info needed for the folks too! Cheers, Roman :P
Excellent! I’m riding the Arizona BDR in October on my 1250 GS. I will be going with a pair of POD knee braces now.
Thank you for making this video! I have decades behind me of riding horses, bicycles, skateboards, surfboards. These will be a welcome addition going forward. 🤙👊
Adam, great work!
Your take on other protection gear (neck brace, body armor, etc) , all under the “adventure riding” point of view would be much appreciated. Cheers mate!
Totally agree with everything you said Adam
After 35 years of riding, 6 reconstructions (4xL &2xR) I’ve had a number of braces including some very expensive top end brands
as you say you have to find what fits and is comfortable for you
I’ve been running PODs for the last 12+ years and love them
I’ve had to replace the tendons plenty of times and like you I now keep spares
Ask your mates to try theirs at the end of the day for half an hour, try as many brands and models as you can before forking out the dough
👍👍👍
As you said beautifully in the video Adam... it's not the brand that matters, it's the fact that you're wearing them at all. I myself invested in Pod K8 years ago. At first I couldn't get used to them. Now I use them not only for riding, but also for skiing. And it just doesn't feel the same when riding/skiing with or without it...it helps you feel more confident...
I'm glad the Pod K8's did the job and your knee is ok. 🇦🇺🙌🇸🇮
Thanks Adam, for any off-road riding a must have . Snapped both ACL last year. Now 61 wearing braces to keep enjoying the ride .
Jeepers that sounds like a rough deal, how did you do both at once? I did one ACL last year along with a couple of fractures in the tibia at the knee. I just dabbed my foot down and it stopped dead whilst me and the bike rolled on by, didn't even fall off. Which braces did you get? Ride safe.
Love my PODs. Have worn braces for nearly all the years of my riding and they have prevented so many injuries. All my friends that didn't use them have all suffered knee injuries, many requiring surgery.
Thanks Adam,
Keep these videos coming like your helmet video this is awesome especially for us older guys that are not as in tune with the new stuff.👍🙂
Knowledge is power. I've taken a beating over the years so happy if I can help educate people in the right direction...
Just started off road and already hyperextended my left knee sideyways. Low speed like you said but it got me pretty bad. Ill be getting some of those. Youve got a really great channel here. Thanks!
Food for thought, thanks man!
Absolutely, I decided to pick up braces for this riding season, and I'm glad I did, I've had my normal number of offs and bins, and there are a few that I feel I definitely would have been worse off for not having them. It's kind of to the point if I'm going for just a quick ride I consider low risk I'll skip them, and them spend half the ride thinking about what I'm doing in regards to not blowing out a knee, which makes me ride a little slower, which in turn makes me more likely to dab, thus increasing my risk of injury all the more. I went for some leatt hybrids for a bunch of reasons, primarily because they work well for me, but as long as it's a decent brand, any brace is better than no brace.
I shopped around last year when I was building up my 500exc but never pulled the trigger. I can imagine how much they must help by picturing how odd it feels to ride in normal shoes. It feels like you're bare-footed. Thank you for the reminder Riemann!
Get a set and wear them until you don't notice them.
Thanks Adam!
Very timely. Thankfully I've never had a knee injury despite a lot of stacks, fast and slow. However, recently I've been getting twinges in my knees that remind me I'm no longer young and my luck with my knees could run out.
Currently on the hunt for shops where I can try them on because they are a hefty chunk of change to buy blind.
I wachted almost every knee brace review on youtube. Ultimately went with the POD K4. Very happy with the product! I would recommend buying a knee sleeve as well, makes it more comfortable and the brace doesnt move around as much
Cool to put a bit of focus on the safety with knee braces - I'm sure it's easy to underestimate them until something bad happens. Great job!
Great video. I have cti knee braces and they have several scars from impact. Best advice I got for comfort is to tighten the strap located at the top of your calf as tight as possible and just snug the rest. The brace stays put with no issues. I do not ride without them and I am 58 years old.
Good Video. I wear Mobius X8's. Ive tried them all on at least..pods were really good too form a comfort standpoint. I just felt the Mobius to be the most protective from impacts as well as lateral thrusts and hyper-extension limit....and very very comfortable once you learn how to fit them and match pants to them. I won't ride without them.
Good call Adam cheers mate
Great info thank you.
I unfortunately broke my knee with a tibial plateau fracture this summer, but without a doubt my knee braces saved my ACL and MCL. Making my recovery 3 months to get walking and not 9 months.
I am 55 and I find them really good just to help with the pain in my knees just from the usual riding impacts without falling. My knees feel so much better after a ride and I can ride further too.
Top advice,thks.
asterisk carbon cell one are also excellent knee braces and a smidge less expensive in the US compared to pods, that arie wears
Great video. I just had a get off, silly little crash really. The bike ended up coming down on me from about 6 feet up while I was face down and landed on my foot with a fully bent knee. The knee braces saved me from a full one reconstruction no doubt about it! There was a little twisting motion they didn't fully stop, but it would have been a far sight worse without them. Knee is recovering well, I'm already back to riding ready stuff less than two weeks out.
Everyone should be wearing them in my opinion.
Yep, had plenty of those - even midrace in multi-day events. Brace allows you to press on to the finish line in most cases..
Very good vid showing the need to wear your protective gear all the time. My moto: always wear the protective gear, ALWAYS!
That's one beautiful knee protector!
Wow hope it will imporve my Riding Style.
I've been riding with knee braces for a while now - I also have the Pod's.
Took a little time to get used to them, but now they're like socks - don't even notice them.
Up until recently never had cause to "test" them.
That was until I was riding down a fairly open trail, probably around 30mph - and clouted a tree branch that was sticking out into the trail. The impact cleaned me right off the bike. The tip of the branch impacted the top of the lower part of the brace and ripped apart the "ligaments". BUT - saved my knee/leg.
Just like you showed in the video, I replace my ligaments, almost good as new.
Highly recommend the Pod knee braces. Expensive, yes. Worth it? 110% Yes.
Good information for people that don't know the bad parts of riding. I'm 41 and have I have been riding since I was 12. Lots of injuries 😆
waiting for Ryan Hughes comment😂 lol
Well said and ringing in my ears. Tweaked my knee more than once a week ago, for me that was a WAKE UP STUPID and get some knee braces before your next ride, POD K8s are on my shopping list!
I agree to a point Im also old man did extreme over extension which nuked the knee But i do feel to a level when you add all of the protection gear You push it harder So lot more speed and if on edge you crash at high speed you can get hurt Its V squared energy So old man keeps it under 80 percent of edge nowadays Rehab sucks I do like the edge I just keep it lower Thanks for the vids
I got knee braces early on, as I started riding. Lots of experience bailing and crashing on BMX and MTB. I wasn't going to take any chances with a 250lb bike and higher speeds. They've saved me at least 3 times. One bad get-off was a tip over, down a steep hill, as I was traversing sideways. I flew 10-12ft down and landed straight on my extended leg. Crushed the meniscus. No damage to other ligaments. I'm certain that without a brace, I would've folded my knee sideways. Not only did it prevent a worse injury, it allowed me to ride out 10mi back to the truck because the brace keeps a significant load off the knee. Even if the knee explodes, the brace still keeps the leg together.
I don't even ride my DS without braces. Mostly because I can't stay away from hill climbs.
Knee brace fitment is like a helmet. I've got 4 different ones, and they all fit different. Go to a shop and try them on before buying. Or shell out $2000 for a custom DonJoy, CTi, etc. Unfortunately, the latter offer pretty crappy impact protection.
I only used to wear pads for impact protection and figured that since I was fit and strong from years of karate and general exercise. That I was ok without braces. Then after several recommendations and being able to ride 70km out the desert with a fractured medial malleus on my left ankle (on what could’ve been a shattered ankle) due to the fact that I was wearing really good boots. Decided it was time to invest in some knee braces whilst recovering.
Bought the Pod K8 V2 (K4 V2 was still a few months away at that point and viewed them as a 5yr investment) and can’t ride without them now. Not tweaked my knee since. Thoroughly recommend getting a good set of braces to anyone. I got the Pods after trying my mate’s on and his recommendation after trying a few pairs.
Another thing I won’t ride without nowadays is a neck brace. Was never sold on them for years until I saw my same mate go head first into the dirt like superman from about 10ft in the air. He got caught out in a series of small bowls and missed the connecting dune line and tried to change line but ended up getting thrown off the bike at an angle going around 60kph according to his GPS. I had to take evasive action to avoid him, landed the drop and bottomed out but stopped on (another shout out for investing on your suspension…). Saw the whole thing from start to finish, would’ve snapped his neck.
Dangerous hobby but with the best of gear it’s easier to get up and walk away. 🙏
Bravissimo Adam👏👏💪💪👍
good info
I wore knee pads from the moment I first hopped on a dirtbike. I don't even notice that the knee brace is there. I had quite a gnarly crash recently, and am quite sure that I would have copped a (serious) knee injury without knee braces on. Now I'm just left with some bruises. I just want to avoid the situation where I'm like: I wish I wore kneebraces. Better safe than sorry!
Just recently went shopping for a knee brace and can say - you definitely need to try them out before buying. Top mx brands, top braces - but the result/comfort varies a lot. One will leave dents in your legs and not bend properly while others can you can barely feel at all + price didn't reflect this, best one I found was quite mid-range priced.
Super good information awareness 👍🏾It is hard to reckon why most riders seem to reason their way around wearing proper knee braces. I can think of two reasons people are put of from wearing knee braces. 1. The high dollar cost 2. There aren’t any alarm bells going off about the minority of knee related injuries while riding. People just take for granted that knee injuries won’t happen to them.
Spot on.
Agreed 100% on exo skeleton, my single regret riding, I didn't have my x8 braces from the start.
Another stellar video bud…..just a good and important as the helmet video
I was wearing Asterisk Cell braces for some years but they never fit me so that I forgot about them when riding. Then decided to go with custom braces (saved up for these) and found out that my knees are way different in size - so no wonder Asterisk or any other on the shelf brace felt "off". Been riding with CTi Custom braces for 3 years now - and can't even count how many times it has saved my knees. Bigger spill this year was literally me stalling the engine and losing balance on rocks. Bike fell on left foot and pinned me in place I rotated around with a lot of momentum on that leg ... without a brace that knee would have torn. I had a bruise on the thigh and nothing more (well handlebars broke 3rd metatarsal on the foot). Or even the times when my knee was pinned between something or other and the bike.
Nice video bro!
Thanks, a great reminder and well explained.
Do you have any recommendations of maybe a handful to try? its an expensive game to go buying and binning "everything" till you find what works. Thanks for the content as always 👌
Anything that feels like it has even contact around your whole knee/thigh/calf. If there's more pressure at any one point, the skin will be rubbed off by the end of a big ride. Under socks are also a must!
I’m a newbie oldy and I’m noticing how much extra torque full boots put on the knees! I’m wearing my downhill knee guards for now, they work better than the Mx knee guards I’ve tried 🤷♂️
Great Video, it would be very useful to do another video on body armour/roost protectors.
Shattered my Knee in a real bad crash. And i was never wearing knee braces. I overlooked them and payed the price, which coulda lessened the seriousness off the crash. Spent a fair mount of coin, bought decent set, and now i cant ride without them. Scares me if i dont have them. Great Video mate. Love it 👌
Tough to learn the hard way but no doubt your confidence on the bike is where it should be while wearing braces - even after injury... ?
@@MotologyFilms 100% feel more confident than ever before knowing i have them with me. Moment i sit on a bike without them, i immediately feel uncomfortable.
I ride motorbike since 20 years. I always used knee guards. I never had an serious accident, so i always said "knee braces are too expensive, i dont need them". Two years ago i falled down at low speed in sand aproaching to corner, front wheel sinked in sand, it was really soft fall down, not dangerous. I teared MCL and ACL ....... after surgery i was lucky to come back riding in 2 months, now i use knee braces on road, off road, no matter what bike i use. Also when i go downhill on bicycle, i use motocross knee braces and buzzer.
Ruptured my ACL 5yrs back wearing impact bads, did not help at all with hyperextension, extremly painful and resulted in 11 months off my bike and 52 two hour sessions with my physio + my own exercises, like adam says get decent braces!
Agreed! I knew I should buy knee braces preventatively, but thought I couldn’t afford them. Then I had a very low speed accident and tore my ACL & meniscus. With deductibles and time off of work, I could’ve paid for them 5 times over, at least. And that’s not counting the pain of the injury. Buy a good set of knee braces.
pods are really good. I used to run them when i was younger. They make your legs feel stronger
Great vid,have you tried alpinestars and morbis knee braces,and what made you choose k8pods.
keep safe.
Joe ,in uk
Too late for me. I am watching this video, lying on my bed, with a knee in an immobilizer, recovering from an ACL tear. I wish I had bought a knee brace.
I have leat knee braces and they are quite good
I couldn’t go with off the shelf braces due to having bowed legs. Had some CTI braces made for my circumstance. At $3600 a pair it wasn’t cheap, but perfect fit and don’t ride without them.
Love my Pods. Great for my footy baller legs. Definitely helped with Enduro but when snowboarding backcountry I tomahawked down a epic hill and board dug in the braces saved me. I screamed like a girl because I knew what was coming but they full flexed, held and saved my knees big time. I’m a 100kgs and they deliver.!
I love how he just gets to the point and pulls his pants down to show the braces. 🤣
I’m recovering right now from acl surgery from a get off on a log. Now I’m out for at least 5 months of riding. I’ll have me a set of braces when I get back to riding just haven’t figured out which ones I want
Did you wear knee pads, or braces, or nothing in motonomad? Curious as I dont have issues with my k8 braces on trail rides.. took them on a road ride recently and hated them. Watching your first movie after hooning all youtube vids. Definitely worth the money. Cheers!
Slow speed, nothing things can be bad. Slow speed turning a steep banked corner on wet grass. Put my foot down to steady and rear slipped away on the grass. 8 months in and the knee is ok, but its still not perfect. Still pains in certain positions. Knee braces certainly would have helped. Yet to get some though, (dumb) but looking at customs (expensive)
I use full carbon braces. Never thought they did anything until I’m undressing after a couple of falls on the GS throughout the day and see the abuse they’ve taken that I never even noticed.
My dream is to ride with you mate. Big Fan From Nepal 🇳🇵. You are the best. You must visit Nepal on your KTM
I also am researching the best boots for ankle support for the same reason....
This is internal debate have with myself constantly. Especially the initial comfort issue while adapting to the feeling of braces. But. After snapping my tib and fib,(and tearing muscle very badly) in a downhill MTB crash and the many operations I have had to repair the leg, my knee and ankle has been severely affected and now knee braces are going to be a must if I want to keep riding as the muslces themselves still aren't strong yet to handle even minor sudden impacts. And that's after 9 years....
As side bar, I have only been able to get back on a bike 3 years ago as that's how long it took to get my leg good enough just to ride a bike.
Recently I did my first enduro trip ever. And I am pretty sure my knee braces (mobius x8) are the reason I didn’t torn my ligaments.
Gonna use these squat snatching.....
I had never had knee braces but when I was working at a bike store and I was customers coming in to buy knee braces after there 2nd or 3rd knee reconstruction I took the plunge myself and got a pair! Money well spent, they don’t take long to forget you are wearing them and when you ride without them you feel naked.
Good advice from a pro. Actually I didn't found braces that fit for longer rides. I do rally riding and think to buy one. The POD are really uncomfortable for me. The shop where I wear this thing's told me, that tailored Orthema fit best, but they are hell expensive.
Did you have the pod knee sleeves on with them mate?
holy smokes.. I did NOT expect them to be as expensive as they are.
I also think I would prefer a broken femur above a dislocated knee with tendons snapped, cruciate ligament and/or broken patella.
Last year I was out and new trail. Section in tight trees and I hit the tree hard not seeing how tight it was of course. Finished the lap and hopped off the bike. Couldn’t straighten my right leg. Took off brace and noticed bent the hinge inward. That would’ve been my knee! I never ride without even if a quick ride
Wow, out of interest what brand/model braces were you wearing?
@@iwe7078 EVS
despite having my acl completely torn off while wearing my knee braces. I wouldn't go out riding without them on. I was lucky probably because of the brace that there was no play and almost no swelling after the incident. After a few weeks of physio I was back on the bike. after a few years still no pain in my knee as long as I keep the muscles strong ... I also had the pod braces I have no problems with riding inconvienienves at all. my brother has regularly sanded his knee cavaties with his alsterisk brace unfortunately
First time I used Pods were brand new set out of the packet and straight into National Off-road round ... Forgot they were on mid-race. Never looked back.
I will never ride dirt without knee braces again. Had too many close calls, almost tearing my ACL. I'm a small guy and the Alpinestars youth knee braces fit me perfectly
I beleive you would get more protection by strengthening your knees with targeted training. I still wear knee braces, as a bit of extra backup but I don't count on them saving me knees.
do you recommend wearing knee braces for multi-day adventure trip?
Is the impact protection compareable with a ce level 2 knee protector? I always thought I would sell impact protection for torsion and over extension protection with a knee brace...
I love my PODs but wish they had better protection for impact, I get hit through the gaps in the knee protection and right through the patela cap often. Rock hits to the side of the patela are completely unprotected when knees are bent. It's a tradeoff.
I have broken a bone in my left wrist by trying to save myself from a slow tip over. Do you have any experience of using a wrist brace. Thinking I will have to buy one in near future
If i was riding at your level then yes i would wear decent knea braces. But Im not taking the risks i once did for my once a month enduro ride. I have been happy just with the plastic shin and knee guards. My risk level is low and my office job would allow me to work with broken bones :P my knees are pretty stuffed from play sport more then riding anyway.
A few rides back a guy on a wet down hill single fell over and the bike weight forced his foot to turn 180° spiral fracture in his shin. He had braces on so i guess it stopped the knee rotating.
And they say skiing is dangerous! -:) I ll stick to my slopes, here in Austria!
Just bought K4 Pod.
I measured my knee. My girlfriend measured. I dont know how how but we got me to a small.
I got the brace. Waay to small.
(Thinks its because you have to measure right below the knee. I dont have much there. But quite big quads.)
So am gonna go up a size.
They seem like good quality :-)
Adam do you ever go to Victoria
How do you protect your wrists???
I have 3 serious wrist fractions, still not found any protection helping for that...
I tried all the brands and found Mobius the most comfortable but they are still very uncomfortable and i can't get use to wearing them still.
Nice if you have between 300 and 800 dollars to buy a pair. The model he has there sale for about 800 bucks in the US. Yeah cheaper than a visit to the ER and specially having a surgery, but the price puts it out of reach for many. Sad!
Could it be knee braces for Enduro, pads for motocross? I don’t even ride yet. Why don’t the knee braces have padding?
Do you use these for adventure riding too?
Yes, every time I'm on the bike.
I need to quit neglecting this area and just order a set
My left knee is bound in carbon fibre holding a prosthetic foot on, my right knee is titanium with fox evolv shocks.. I miss my legs but not all the issues with body parts… I skipped a step n went for an exo skeleton leg instead of bones. Much better hahaha 😝
After injuring my knee spontaneously whilst walking and having to get arthroscopy and physio, I’ll never ride without braces!
3:00 goon move ! 🤣😁
I can't agree more, just buy a set. cheaper than surgery and think about the amount of riding you'll miss while healing from knee surgery
Where did the Yamaha go?
I had a simple off a few weeks ago and hyperextended my knee. It was sore at the time but was able to ride for an hour, struggled all that night and got checked and done some damage, so far 4 weeks out and still can’t bend me knee enough to put it on the step to walk up stairs correctly.. get braces guys
My CTI braces look like an angle grinder has been at them. Knees still OK but.
These do look alot slimmer and light weight compared to knee pads
Much rather a broken tib/fib than a blown out knee. Not so sure about a femur due to the possibility of the fracture rupturing the femoral artery.