Infantilization and the Body Hair Debate
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by ‘innocent’, and ‘pure’, they just mean someone easy to manipulate
Exactly
TRUTH
*no.*
pedophilia is being attracted to children, and children cannot consent. they dont have the legality or mindset to consent. its not about them being pure or innocent, its merely about the fact that they /cannot consent/.
@@underwirez you have a point.
@@underwirez yes, they cannot consent, aka the man can manipulate them.
my dad used to tell me “are you shaving your legs for boys?” in a joking manner. no, i shaved because i was bullied relentlessly if i didn’t. i was 10. 🚶
Honestly yeah. I don't show alot of skin so no one would notice.
i remember the first time my armpit hair was pointed out by a friend when we went to the pool. i was 12 and she continuously kept making me uncomfy
this whole thread is painfully relatable
I wasn't bullied but I got fed up of shaving my legs constantly so went weeks without doing it during school and it's not nice having girls come over and ask why you don't shave as they screw their nose up. Every other girl who didn't want to shave like me just wore tights during winter but shaved all summer. It's sad really. The girls who question or might bully you probably don't fully understand why they're doing it because they've never thought to reflect on it it's that ingrained.
Me too!!!
Whenever body hair comes up, I always say what my dad told me when I was young and asked him why his arms were so hairy, "because I'm a mammal".
As a biology teacher, I love this. Definitely going to use it! Thanks Izzy’s Dad
That's the best come back
I go with the “We’re sentient primates… we’re kind of supposed to be hairy anyway.”
Man that is such a clever response!
I used to say this!
What makes me really sad is how the novel Lolita was never intended to portray a desirable young woman. Society was supposed to be beyond disgusted by the story, and to view the protagonist as a horribly twisted man lusting after childhood innocence.
The author was so successful in portraying this that the most disturbing aspect of the whole situation is how easy the media and pop culture managed to turn it into a glorification of pedophilia.
Right. I guess it was supposed to be a mockery, or a parody, but not the "funny ha-ha" kind. Like horror novels/movies written/filmed in the perspective of the killer. (Kind of like what's-his-face in American Psycho, which was also a parody, and the Joker, who's just straight-up evil and not even trying to fake it but is still romanticized somehow.) Whoops, I guess?
That book was one of the most disturbing things I've ever read. No hands down was the most disturbing novel I've read. He has a beautiful way with words, however, so I'm not sure I wouldn't recommend it.
@@leahwilliams9333 yes it’s so disturbing. I appreciate his way with words and way he tells a story. It’s a great piece of literature. But it’s horrible and disturbing and gross and I can’t understand those who romanticise it. Yuck.
Nabokov was not the inventor of the "Unreliable Narrator" genre, but I believe, he was a real genius and made this genre much more popular. He also made the book based on the real story of kidnapped American girl he was tracking in the newspaper. If Vladimir was alive today, he would be very, very ashamed how bad many people treat his story.
I don't think I made two chapters into the book, I was so repulsed. The protagonist was nauseating.
I don’t understand how men can say it’s for “hygiene” toward women, but then walk around with their 20inch long leg hairs and armpit hairs that they could braid
I also think they forget that ladybits are self-cleansing and man bits are not. Big yikes.
@@patch2932 i think it’s so cool that women have one of the only two self cleaning body parts (the other is eyes)… men got nothing on us
they also forget its men who are less hygienic, they shower less or take care of body, face etc and im not even talking about shaving plus they they sweat more and its more stinky, ofc way more hair and just.. average non shaving woman is waaaaay more hygienic / clean / fresh / nice smelling than non shaving man
@@lishan4657 women actually wash their bed sheets less than men do
Why did I laugh ugly at this. 😭🤣
I feel bad for Nabokov. He wrote a book about a gross dude getting what he deserved and everyone thought it was hot.
Probably screaming In his grave
Where can i read the book is it on pdf or is it banned?
@@madao2794 project Gutenberg is where you can get public domain books for free (in all digital formats). I don't know if Lolita is public domain yet off the top of my head. But if it isn't, you'll have to buy it or check it out from a library
The Enchanter (the short story that he wrote on the same exact subject matter before Lolita) is more horrifying, but the ending is quite clear in showing that he got what was coming to him. I think people picture humbert as a hot felon in the Lolita story or something idk 😐
@@madao2794 i checked it out from my library when I read it. The Enchanter (highly recommended) was harder to find, I ended up “buying” the ebook in a free trial.
Its upsetting that the way films and TV shows present a woman "letting herself go" is no makeup and grown out body hair, when that is just my everyday appearance.
this! and also how in movies, when the nerdy/ugly girl gets a makeover, she shaves, her curly hair is straightened, she’s made to wear less comfortable, more feminine clothing, and wears makeup. it’s so damaging.
In the 60's comics (fabulous furry freak brothers) SAME. You can find YT videos urging women to shave *their faces* to sell razors
Hello glass butterfly! And yes! Like, why and when did that ever become a weird thing?
@@KateBates22zabu this is so weird wth. I understand if you have hirsutism or something but otherwise, why?? It also worsens acne for a lot of people
@@ellasedits_ THIS!!! i hate seeing girls with curly hair seen as less desirable
i have two friends of mine that are both latinas with extremely curly hair and i can only imagine how damaging it was for them to see stuff like this as a kid
they already talk a lot about how they hate their hair and one of them has heat damage due to straightening it so much ;;
I am a 72 yr old woman who gave up shaving in 1970 to win the Miss Hairy Legs contest in our co-ed dorm. I've never looked at a razor since and I still feel like a woman.
you go girl
I aspire to be like you
THATS AWESOME I LOVE YOU
i know this is an old comment but your generation really inspires me. i stopped shaving recently and honestly i'm too old to care about other people's opinions.
I'm 27 and idrc it's still nicer when a girl takes care of her body. I'm not gonna throw a tantrum if she doesn't and I'm gonna do my best to keep my shit under control too, but come on guys. Bushes are sweaty and bacteria ridden and shit I've gotten a rash before from the chafing. Not sexy. Very unhygienic, objectively. You can't cultural relativism your ass out of giving your man a skin infection seriously stfu.
The way “body hair debate” is a thing when it’s natural for everyone 😭
right like who in the right mind decides to make body hair “disgusting”. Body hair is natural and if someone thinks that’s disgusting then their dumbest of people
Exactly. They’re dumb asf.
Imo, if you don't like shaving, don't shave. What others think of that shouldn't matter. They can keep their mouths shut.
@@rache1122 I would say the same about other things that people like to hide or remove, like moles, freckles, or pores. Seriously, why are people ashamed of their pores?!
@@Schrodingers_Kat Well you're the problem here. What's disgusting about it? Are you also disgusted by male body hair? If not, question why it is only female body hair you dislike. And then rewatch this video for the answer.
You're allowed to not enjoy the way it feels or looks on yourself, but that does not make it disgusting.
What I learned from veet: don’t remove hair before a job interview, this way you can get mistaken for a man and have a better chance to be hired
😂😂😂
And at a higher salary, too!
Lmao
@nick m. what dude? lol
@nick m. Incel.
"Body hair causes criminal violence"
Damn, I forgot to shave this morning and now I feel like committing arson
be hairy
do crime
@@Bdjdhdudh Because that is a logical progression of events.
@@chocolateaddictedartist5924 love the pfp BTW.
Only thing I ever shave is my armpits, so uh, huh. No wonder crime always sounds like reasonable entertainment, it's all that leg hair.
@@leafq Thanks!
Fun fact: Nabokov created "Lolita" not just to sexualize children, but actually original idea was to make it creepy and unsettling as possible, like a horror story AND NOT TO GLORIFY IT BY ANY MEAN
He hated what media done to it as far as I know
Yeah, as someone who read the book, it’s clearly written in a way that the protagonist’s actions are meant to be seen as disgusting and unforgivable, despite it being from his POV. I don’t understand how media messed it up so much… :/
Yes it’s kind of a horror story. The problem was that the people pushing it didn’t read the book-just a short blurb.🙄
IN ADDITION!!! It wasn't just for no reason or JUST to be creepy, he himself was a victim of abuse. A lot of people somehow debate if that's true or not but it plays into the standard of not beliving victims. Im inclined to believe him personally.
Yeah, and he hated how the book cover always featured a girl who is sexualized in some manner. He always asked for plain and basic but was ignored by the publisher. 🤦♀️ Poor guy.
CP as in?
Here’s a fun game: keep an eye out for women’s shaving commercials where women shave an ALREADY shaven leg. It’s hilarious (and immensely depressing)
oh no, they couldn't possibly force people to see something as terrible and nighmarish as... woman's leg hair. Who would be responsible for all the men that would go into shock when they see it?? :o
ALL of them!
I know that always bugs me so bad
Yeah, and menstrual fluid is blue? Like no one could handle seeing anything realistic in a commercial (when it comes to women's bodies).
I don't understand how it can be disgusting to have leg hair it's human. Everyone should be able to do how they want without being called disgusting.
It wasn't until I read that a woman was freaking out trying to shave before going to the hospital after her waters broke that I realised how broken this all is. Just imagining a woman trying to reach around a baby bump to avoid showing body hair while LITERALLY GIVING BIRTH
😔
That specific example seems like a her problem tbh😭
I know several women who carefully planned visits to the salon in order to be nice and shaved in time for the birth, and not just that, one even got an EDEMA so that the birth will be completely clean (in case you didn't know, it's normal to poop while giving birth due to the immense pressure).
Because it's gross as hell.
Seeing hairy coochie.
@@victoriaalbastra6325 that's something I really didn't want to know
For so long I felt like less of a woman because I’m not small, willowy, or delicate. I’m tall, strong, and solid. I’m really glad we’re finally collectively having this conversation.
I'm happy that pop culture is slowly, (VERY SLOWLY) showing how women of various body types are beautiful. I feel She Ra 2018 did this really well, steven universe too. I adored Scorpia's personality and she was so beautiful in her black and rose dress. ^_^
Oh and what's her name Spiralina, the wind princess
Are you kidding? Media love their tall , strong women. Most models and a lot of actress are tall and very fit.
Most men see small women as "childish " and not "juicy enough".
I'm 24 and I still look too young and too skinny for men to look at me. They see me as a child. It's the worst.
This! Back when i id'd as female i was so insecure about being short, broad, hairy and olive skinned. I never saw ANYONE who looked remotely like me in media or modeling or even pop music.
Femme-aligned fluffy people, plus size people, and non "european standard" skin colours need infinitely more representation.
I can totally relate to this I have board shoulders and am on the heavy side. It I eat okay ish and, still so self conscious.
I hate people pulling the "people have always gone for the young because highest fertile" excuse but young enough to be hairless is, well, not fertile. It is below the peak of fertility.
it's not even true. the safest time to have a child is late 20s, early 30s. these men are just creeps.
Yeah, I’ve seen that argument before. It would be disgusting even if it was technically true but it’s not even that!
@loveutill theendoftimes yeah, they are totally equating hairlessness with fertility. 😂
Also, better fertility does not equal better ability to carry a pregnancy. In other words, even if younger people can conceive better than older women does not mean they are better at giving birth
@@yurifairy2969isn't it odd that creeps will say that women's fertility dramatically decreases around the same age that the brain finishes development...
I don’t want a man to tell me it’s more “hygienic” to shave down there when he only cleans his crack once a week. 💀
I'm a man, I shave most of my body hair every time I shower/bathe. I do it for hygiene reasons.
@@autumn5592 The "hYgIeNe" argument doesn't even make sense, it's been debunked in the video...
No worries men don't actually do that. No idea where yall got that from
@@FunkiMonki69 There are men who literally refuse to wash their crack AT ALL because they think touching their own butt is "gay" Guarantee this is the first guy who would say something about a woman needing to shave.
@@lonesparrow While these people do certainly exist, it is important to remember they are a loud rarity that disgust the vast majority of people, men and women.
When I don’t shave I’m “disgusting” but when men don’t do it they’re “manly”
but when men shave they're "gay"
@@deadcorpse69 frr, but in high school, guys at my school took pride in their shaved legs, I guess it was because male athletes and guys who played sports did it, so like they were like, heyy its not really gay to shave
@@NB-lx6gz speed? I've heard my swimmer friends say that, but idk
@@NB-lx6gz For swimmers, shaving body hair will reduce drag. When racing you want to get every competitive edge you can get, so this means shaving to get rid of possible drag and wearing tech suits to compress/support your muscles and reduce drag. In swimming, even a small action such as that can drop your time (given that you trained up to optimal speed).
@@NB-lx6gz having more hair makes u appear smaller and also sweat I believe
I dislocated my knee cap at age 12 from ice skating. I had to go to the ER and the first my dad said after the doctor was done his inspection was "You have a lot of body hair, why didn't you shave? Your future husband isn't going to like that."
Well I'm sorry dad, that I didn't go home and shave my crippled leg.
I'm sorry but that cracked me up 😂😂 your "well I'm sorry dad, that i didn't go home and shave my crippled leg"
😂 Fucking fathers, I'm sorry ❤️
He got that from society. I’m so sorry that you experienced that.
I felt so uncomfortable reading this. Your dad shouldn't be saying stuff like that anyway
@@CaptainSoftboy501 Imagine how I felt laying on the hospital bed having that "conversation"
Dad... I'm 12
My mom constantly bullies me for being "too hairy". Yet when my brother, who because of this felt that he needed to as well, decided to shave his armpits one day, she laughed in his face for several minutes and told him to stop doing weird things. It's a double standard and it's disgusting.
Also, some people (like my mom again) will try to be all like "ohh it's not me, it's society, i don't make the rules I'm just trying to protect you from society" when in fact YOU are the ones thet keep perpetuating these societal standards in the first place.
"It's not me, it's the society"... wait. What? People saying things like that ARE part of the society.
That's awful, I'm sorry she treats you that way. But I'm proud of you for resisting it and working on reclaiming your worth.
Oh I feel this so hard. Whenever I do something "to werid" my mom tells me I'll get bullied
I can relate so much. My mother told me that "No one will love you looking like that", "You look like a monkey" , "It's unhigenic, dirty, disgusting" "I hope you won't embarrass us by going out like that" "You need to go to a psychiatrist if you think that filth is beautiful on you! You are supposed to be hairless" and much more. I had a few fights with her and she still can't drop it. Now I just tune her out or my mind tells her to go f*ck herself, as disrespectful as it may be
They are part of the society, indeed, and for that a part of the problem.
It really bothers me that we keep calling Lolita Lolita. Lolita is the nickname her abuser gave her. Her name is Dolores, which comes from the Latin word for pain or suffering, which Nabokow knew because he was literally a classicist.
This!
this is extremely infuriating wow. more people need to see this
Yeah, "dolores" is the plural form for "dolor" in spanish, that literally means "pain". "Tengo dolores"= "I've pains"
@@Laura-ef3mm *i've got pains
Lola is actually a common nickname for people named Dolores or María Dolores in Spain. That’s where Lolita comes from I imagine
You know, it's funny. Your whole body is 'supposed' to be hairless (according to society) but as soon as the hair on your head starts to get too short, people panic. "Oh, are you sure you want a pixie cut? You have such pretty hair!"
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Trust me it's fucking hilarious and it's soooo true.
My classmate cut her hair short up to her neck and since we go to a catholic school, my teacher said "girls shouldn't cut their hair they look much more prettier in long hair" 💀
I shaved my head about 6 months ago (as a 14 year old girl) and when some people talked to me about it they said that they assumed j was a lesbian just because of the length of my hair (I mean I am queer but it was people that didnt even know then that said that).
Powermove: pixie cut and no shaving. When they say that, you pull up your pant leg and go "Oh, I've got plenty. Thanks for asking though".
I think the childlike curiosity is also accepted as a desirable trait in femininity. The idea of the deathly curious, innocent girl who needs a man to 'show her new things' is a very abundant trope in mainstream media. Even in Disney movies.
I just thought of the movie Tangled since you mentioned Disney, and yeah the whole plot is of a girl who is curious of the outside world and a man shows her around.
It's a popular trope even in religion. Think Pandora, or Persephone. Innocence mixes with curiosity, and that turns into disaster. Until, of course, a strong man (or in this case, a God) can fix it.
@@KatNips Persephone and Pandora are actually amazing examples; having a man “show you the way” and guide you out of your innocence. Predatory and accurate as fuck
I can show you the world~ Shining shimmering splendid~~
@@RadEmpoleon I'm probably biased here because I love Tangled, but I feel it's a little different in this context since Rapunzel basically blackmails Eugene (i.e. won't give him the crown back unless he shows her around). It feels like a version of the trope that provides the woman with much more agency, which makes her curiosity feel as though it is an attempt to reclaim a freedom that has been denied to her rather than turn her into an object of male desire.
That said, I can see the argument being made even if I don't see it the same way, and agree with the original point of woman's curiosity being fetishized in media.
Women can’t grow hair without it being a political statement. Wow. That point just stuck with me. We can’t grow out our own body hair (what our body naturally does for our health) without it being a drama.
It's even crazier because we do not gros it consciously.... It just does without us giving a f-.
The problem is us, women, not giving a fuck about men and what they think! It is us living a bit of life without centering men and other people!
Why would you want to grow out your body hair? Do you like being hairy or something? 😅
@@Nirrini I do not grow it out, it does it itself. Everybody is hairy, we are part of nature
@@Nirriniit’s not like I like it, it just happens and I feel more comfortable not constantly having to destroy it
@@Nirrinifunny how before the Industrial Revolution women used to be fkn hairy and no one minded it until the razor blade company started shaming women for having hair to sell more blades lol
Natural>>>Fake
If shaving were actually about hygiene it would be "hygienic" for EVERYONE. Since the hygiene argument is only used against women, can we just admit it's an aesthetic? And a weird one at that?
It makes you wonder why they think hair down there is dirty while they cream their pants for long hair on your head. Why is one kind of hair dirty and the other isn't? Clue: They're both fine.
right like if pit hair “makes you sweat more” or whatever then shouldnt males be the ones shaving it since they usually grow more than females ??
Absolutely agreed. In high school I was told by my FrIeNdS that I should shave the hair on my chin, upper lip, cheeks and arms cause it was “gross” but all the boys were hairy as fuck. God I hate it here
@@kristen7687 most do?
U guys are so dumb , if it was like that I wouldn’t have my mum telling me my hairs are too long and it’s disgusting and unhygienic to have bushes of hair all over. Bro they are countless men saying they have to cut they’re pubes cause they’re wives prefer it , and they are countless women saying they want bushes because if not it’s like they feel like they are having sex with a boy or they’re brother .
It's so weird how female body hair has been turned into a "hygiene" thing too. If you don't remove all your body hair (except the socially acceptable eyebrows/eyelashes/head hair) you are seen as someone who doesn't take care of themselves or just downright dirty. Meanwhile if a dude is literally lookin like big foot, as long as he showers and wears deodorant it's completely hygienic???? Where's the logic exactly
And if you DO remove or don't have the body hair which is expected (eyebrows/eyelashes/head hair), you are chastised. Ridiculous.
Shaved eyebrows and hairy pits! The hair styles of the revolution!
Lol, I'm kidding, though I do love a shaved eyebrow for alternative makeup looks.
The world is simultaneously drowning and burning and some people have nothing better to do than worry about other people's body hair. Lmao.
Lookin like a big foot I’ll admit I laughed at that for a while
I think the “hygiene” reason is just an excuse for p3dos and all the gross men who prefer woman hairless
Yep it's bullshit. I do shave because I like how smooth it makes things. If I don't and wear trousers the hair snags on the fabric and is super uncomfortable. But I also think men should shave too. To me too much hair on anyone is kinda gross. But that's a personal opinion the way society forces people to shave and if they don't they'll be shamed or shunned drives me nuts it shouldn't be a thing. Let people live how they want. I'm not shaving my head but if someone wants to they should go for it
i stopped waxing my unibrow and the different in how men AND WOMEN treat me is ridiculous 🙄
I have a story where I once went to my grandma's house with hairy legs. I don't shave. She looks down and notices, saying, "oh, do you have hairy legs?" Because she is rather old, I thought she was going to rip me for it. But no, when I reply yes she says, "I used to also have hairy legs. So beautiful." It made me tear up a little when I left.
Great woman.
it probably reminds her of youth!! ur grandma has a very healthy mindset
Awe, that's so sweet. I wish more people viewed it like that. ❤️
lol thats not how that story was gonna go. thats funny and sweet
I visited my grandma in the nursing home on a brutally hot summer day and she asked why I wasn't wearing shorts. I said it was because I didn't shave. She said "neither have I."
And I was like that's different grandma... And she said "how is that different? It's still hot."
And that sat with me for a while. That I would sacrifice my comfort to not be seen as fuzzy when like... I'm gonna get old too and it's a really silly thing to waste my limited care on.
I only shave my body because then I can oil myself up and slide around on some hardwood floor, becoming the worm I was always destined to be
Found the God-Emperor of Dune
So…. I’m hoping your partner would still love you if you were a worm! (Had to make a reference to the meme lol sorry)
Earthworms have mucus and little hairs covering their skin that allows them to move through different types of soil.
As a teenager girl I think it’s truly horrible that girls my age and younger and women are brain washed to a certain extent into thinking shaving = hygiene when in reality it’s purely cosmetic. Having body hair down there and other places in general doesn’t make you less clean but so many girls I know think having less hair/being hairless just feels cleaner when really it doesn’t affect it whatsoever if you just bath like a normal person.
ugh this!! i wish i knew this sooner..
It’s actually more hygienic to have hair which is so weird since it protects your goochie
What's grosser is that's it's such a normalized expectation that women and teens feel pressured to even shave before a doctors appointment or surgery just to not be shamed
@@starchannel123 wtf😟
I've always felt more gross when I do shave down there. I sweat alot and it causes my skin there to get really wet which can cause skin infections.
Lolita: Ped*philia is bad
Everyone: I gets it... Ped*philia is bad ass!
Lolita: NO
Lmao that sounds like something that would be on it’s always sunny. Write more! You’re funny!
lolita is a fashion lmao, loli was inspired by it sadly
@@h0lodm0966
It might be the other way around, like they inspired the fashion from the novel but idk
EHAT does Lolita mean
@@h0lodm0966 I know there's Lolita fashion but I was referring to Lolita the book
i remember 2 years ago i went to the beach, and forgot to shave my hoo hah. i wore some type of swim shorts and when i used to sit down, a bit of the hair was vizible from my cooch, some random women sitting near me literally pointed at me, looked down and laughed, while speaking french, it felt horrible. i was 12 and those woman were adults, they had no buisness to even look at what i had down there. its sad how the media portrays ideal woman as hairless and its really annoying
You were T W E L V E ???
Thats literally disgusting- what is it with middle-aged women doing that though.
Jesus thats disgusting, it hurts so much worse when the sexism, misogyny and beauty standards are coming from other women too. Like damn, I thought we were on the same side here.
BRUH. This is extremely toxic. Also not to mention, a woman herself did that to you. I feel sorry for her daughter. Anyways I feel like at this point it shouldn't even be the men that do this to us that we should be worrying about, it's our female friends like this themselves that we should be really vary of.
I feel so bad
When I was younger I expressed my disdain towards my arms (which are quite hairy but the hairs light in colour) to my slavic dad. He said to me: "The more hair on your arms the richer you'll be" and told me not to shave them. God I love him he's so precious
Damn, I might as well be a millionaire then lol. You have a nice dad, tell him he’s cool for me
Bless him
I have similar hair, but your dad sounds amazing 😊
If being hairy is soo unhygienic, then why aren't men shaving? Class A double standard right there.
many men shave
@@cawashka most of the time though it isn’t those guys complaining.
There's generally 3 reasons why men dont shave.
- They're lazy.
- They think bodyhair is masculine.
- They think shaving is gay.
When a man says bodyhair is unhygienic it's just codework for: "I don't think hair looks good."
@@GoodMorningUSA1 My hair grows back extremely fast. If I want smooth anything I have to shave everyday.
@@jcfra420 Shaving has nothing to do w hygiene. Literally what this video is about. 💀
As a hairy latina, I started shaving my arms and legs and waxing my eyebrows and little mustache at 9 years old, all because I would be relentlessly bullied for my body hair. I stopped waxing and shaving a couple years ago and have been so much happier in my own skin, I feel more like myself
im happy for you!!
ESO MAMONAAAA
Yes! Why is it so conditioned that literal children will bully each other for having hair? It's just sad and maddening.
I walk around the house with year long leg hair and pit hair to subtly show my brothers that women have body hair, and if they make fun of me I tell them "I'd rather be a human than a naked mole rat thanks"
same but as an arab! it makes me so happy to see poc women loving their own self !
My dad also taught me that a woman's "need" to shave also was started because razer companies wanted to make more money and realized that since they were only advertising to men, they were only selling to men. To make more money, they started to advertise towards women as well to make more money.
I love that your dad taught you that piece of history!
This is absolutely not true. Women started shaving AGAINST the wishes of a man. It was revolution for women to shave. Please do not believe this. Companies will always expand their market for profit, but women were not coerced into shaving. Shaving for women was liberating and rebellious. It was compared to makeup, which was considered "unnatural" and "ungodly," therefore it was a religious sin to shave.
@@gregwolfe8693 can you give me some sources and links to look into this further?
This sounds like something that I would like to look into and learn the truth.
I'm curious now.
Greg’s comment goes against everything I’ve read about the topic. From my understanding, women started shaving due to new, more revealing, fashion trends. Women began shaving their legs during WWII due to nylon shortages
@@Ashleywoah all ik is that jewish women were some of the first to shave in society and they were shamed as whores for doing so! it was definitely rebellious at first
“My ideal girl is young enough to be my daughter but treats me like my mom” Stanzi in a comedy skit where she is pretending to be an alpha male podcast guy.
Yeah, Stanzi really knows how to speak her mind while still keeping it funny
that clip of the ggirl talking about how men dream about being w a girl as small as her... just disturbs the fuck out of me. it really hurts. we cant just exist, were a trophy to them in the end. ;(
That’s Princess Nokia I think!
@@eypu999 yup its her. she looks different everytime i see her lol
Truly disturbing and disappointing
i bet this is also why anorexia is so huge. we can at least control the size of our bodies in that way :(
@@eypu999 yea I can’t believe she said that smh I used to like her
honestly, i feel bad as a brazilian for how my country is associated with beauty… brazilian but lifts… brazilian wax… i swear we’re way more than that
i agree , but people mainly been getting bbl's because of the sexualization of black women's bodies .
literally! and the worse is that naturally since most brazillians have indigenous and black ancestors theyre usually more hairy, and since other people always expect us to look completely different from that, msot of us are labeled as ugly
Verdade...
@Isabella’s Art i think the exoticising (is that a word?) also plays into it too. rlly sad bc everyone knows about bbls and "brazilians" (often used as shorthand for the wax process rather than only referring to the demonym) but a brazilian classmate of mine was elated i even knew the official language of brazil was portuguese and not spanish?? like wtf society
pretty sure that's just the name of the services provided. i doubt it holds any actual significance behind beauty cultures in brazil.
It's genuinely terrifying how Lolita's message has been spun and twisted to portray her as an icon and role model.
who in their right mind would think like that?!
@@aporue5893 Lots of creeps.
Americans, amirite?
@@anascarlet I'd like to bet 5 bucks on this not just being an American thing.
@@anascarlet this has been popular with both American and European teens. Especially Russians since they Nabokov was originally from Russia. The movie flopped in America and did extremely well there since child human trafficking was at all time high in Moscow and other cultural reflections. You should do some research and actually try to understand the community before blaming things on solely on Americans.
I am a hairy woman. I have always been hairy. Since the moment I was born, I had a unibrow, arm hair, leg hair, even back hair. I still have a hairy back. Growing up I was bullied relentlessly, for something I could not control, I begged my mom to let me shave my arms, I never wore tank tops, even when I was preschool age. The way this affected me growing up was traumatizing to say the least. So many nights staying up, having my mom veet my back hair so I could go swimming and not get laughed at. It's so wrong the expectations people have for women in America. I love my body hair now but that came with a lot of work and it shouldn't have.
I’m the only one of my siblings that’s half brown and I remember my siblings laughing when they noticed my neck had hair going down from my head towards my back. I also remember getting comments in school about how hairy my arms were (I live in a predominantly white area). I’m sorry you had to go through the bullying 😢❤
Same. It was so hard going to an American school as a hairy brown girl growing up. Everyone made fun of me for this, even my own family members. I remember there were years where I made up every excuse I could, so I could avoid going outside and being perceived. I hated being looked at. I hated waking up at 5am to shave before school. I hated the swim unit most of all. I hated shaving. I hated waxing. I hated the alternatives. Every time I tried to remove my hair my skin hurt me back. I still struggle so much with my appearance. I'm almost 20, and Ive never dated anyone. Sometimes it is hard not to feel like people will never be able to look past how hairy I am. I hope things are going better for you though.
That is so inspiring to hear that you came to peace with your body hair! I have a slightly hairy chest, stomach and back and was so insecure for many years during my teens. My skin didn't take waxing well and that made me have even more permanent skin issues. Now I'm stuck with all of that and I hope I can fully embrace my true self one day. Especially queer dating is really hard for me because there I have a full on comparison between another female body and mine. I wish to overcome that finally.
Same!! I'm the hairiest one of my siblings, to the point that I even have chest hair...
The constitution of America says you have a "right to bear arms" so use it
I love how she's casually hilarious even when talking about such dark topics she deserves more subscribers
Agreed!!
She deserves to be monetized too
Yeah, that's called charisma
I just subscribed! First video I’ve seen, but am about to binge a ton more!
She has a way with words and tells it like it is! Best topical TH-camr ❤
nah you're right in calling it "public" hair cause EVERYONE thinks they have a say in it
😂👏
Clever
@@DiamantisHell thank you 👍🏼
leave me and my public hair alone.
Lolita is truly a fascinating book in the aspect that the main character, our protagonist, is simultaneously the ANTAGONIST. Humbert is soft-spoken, likable, even funny at times that you FORGET that he is a P3DOPHILE (well, technically a hebeophile, but I digress). He is truly a monster who manipulated everyone around him to get close to his chosen prey. Dolores was playful, coy, flirtatious even but that doesn’t mean she consented to what happened to her. She may understand what she’s doing, but didn’t fully comprehend it. She was a child with very little supervision who had a grown man assault her and trap her in an unbelievably abusive situation. The fact that this movie became a style icon and a romantic love story perpetuated by people like Lana Del Rey is so incredibly alarming to me. Lolita was 12. She was in the 6th grade practically. This book truly encapsulates the complex, confusing, and blaming game that is child abuse.
I was a victim of child grooming around Lolita’s age and it nearly destroyed my views on healthy sexuality, men, and my own body. If I wasn’t attractive, I wasn’t anything. There was constant pressure to look girlish and cute and petite and delicate and perfect. Why can’t we address the fact that men are so obsessed with porn, they can’t even differentiate between a real person and a perverted sexual fantasy?
I couldnt finish it. I also after trying to listen to it...I think I blacked out parts of the book. Plus years later hearing how nabokov dictated the novel to his wife...is chilling in it's own way.
You said it all.
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Yes. This absolute lack of accountability to be able to recognize how unrealistic and dangerous and hurtful these ways of thinking are to young people and women, and that their thoughts and actions affect the way we live and love (gaslit/groomed so young = not knowing what is abuse or not?) is incredibly mind boggling and sad.
p sure the 12 y/o wasnt flirtatious, that's all his framing cuz he's the narrator
What I rly hate is when someone says: "If you hate shaving so much then just stop'' its not that simple when you have literally been brainwashed since childhood to believe that women having body hair is ''disgusting'' so that everytime you go outside with idk your legs not shaved you feel like everyone is constantly judging u or staring at you.
It is that simple though. I know women who don't shave. They don't care what they think others think about it. Do you care what others think of the hair on your head? I hope not. Why care what they think about your hair on your body?
@@lanajohnson8424because unfortunately, people (both strangers and non-strangers) feel the actual need to tell you that you look/are gross, even when just walking around town. I have never shaved any of my body parts and I get really anxious about wearing shorts and tank tops during summer. Had some really bad experiences, so now I don’t wear these outside my home anymore.
@@de_peer then you need to develop swaggering gorilla confidence and tell them to fuck off. No more of this 'ohh but it hurts my feefees' bullshit, women need to step up and fight back against these stereotypes and standards or else they're never going to go away. I don't shave for anyone, always get comments, and instead of letting them tear me down I throw it right back in their face. What's so gross about my leg hair? Why do men get to get away with it? You're being sexist, you know - that's what I tell them.
My male perspective on this: people expect medium amount of hair from us, like we will be shamed for being a bear, shamed for having bald legs.
Problem is i have super long blonde body hair, its not visually dbut its really impractical like i will be walking and suddenly i feel a pinch because some leg hair is being plucked or tangled.
Took a while for me too to get that hardwired thought of "what if someone saw it and made fun" but after doing it felt much better.
Like i am not supposed to have too many feminine/'gay' qualities, or not supposed to have too many masculine ones of course.
@@jorriffhdhtrseggI like what this guy says. Y'all act like there isn't a standard for men but there is. Like HELLO?? WE ARE HARRIER THAN YOU?? We're just gonna ignore that?
As a student I read Lolita and found it disturbingly interesting, then years later at a book shop in Thailand I overheard an old man say how he just read the story and related to the main character so much 🤢🤢🤢
What the fu..
oh waw thts gross af
That’s fucking disgusting.
ugh of course it's a gross old man in Thailand saying that. I hate how popular the country is with degenerate ugly old farts
Bruh...
Also, then there is ageism.. women being "worthless" by ageing (over 30)
Dear god I hate that.
yes. i think there was a research about this as well. men aged 20-70 prefered women in their 20's, 30 at most, or significantly younger than them. meanwhile women aged 20-70 mostly preferred men the same age as them or only 1 to 5 years older/younger.
this actually says a lot about men and them seeking "femininity".
@@serials1nner yep and let’s be honest here. This definitely shows us that this is definitely something ingrained into these men by society from a young age. It doesn’t matter how much they try to argue and say it something “biologically programmed” into them. It just doesn’t make any sense logically and they are just trying to cover up this issue.
@@regrets9412 40 year women can’t have babies with serve complications dimwit . Use your brain
@@rulerofkripsy9143 It pisses me off because you only like those ages because you can influence and take advantage of someone whos younger than you. You men are insecure and theres a serious issue in the culture surrounding masculinity.
The use of phrasing in the end that women basically "serve no purpose" if they aren't sexually appealing to men is so powerful
Honestly!! This idea sounds insane in theory but then you hear the stuff people (men and even women!) say out loud and it's just...
I swear if I hear ONE more time about how whatever athlete's boobs aren't big enough or how a famously gorgeous actress is suddenly "ugly" just because some man thinks she's not his type... TOO many people believe their opinions to be absolute facts and it's moronic. ".
Yup fuck that shit. On the opposite end of this spectrum, how women in their 40s are oversexualized and mocked.
Tbh I don't want to serve a purpose for these men. I'll serve a purpose for myself and other women thankkks
@Lashankuanette I've deleted my first reply because it was indeed more incoherent than i meant. I think what you're saying is that women are to blame for this phenomenon because we can't accept fat people are ugly? Or rather, that normal looking people who aren't even fat are ugly? And because we can't do so we are the problem, not men? Did I get that?
@Lashankuanette okay I can see that. But I don't know what your experience of being female is, but mine is that because I don't have the ideal body I am also told I am not a "good" person, and almost without fail those people are men. Most women to whom I say, I feel ugly say "no you aren't " etc. So my point is if society at large feel that way, both men and women, what do we do about it?
as someone who'd chinese, a lot of the fetishization that surrounds us east asians plays into pedophilia. "asian fever" isn't just racist it's disgustingly tied to pedophilic roots. the features that us east asians have that make us fetishized are qualities you would associate with a teen/preteen. flatter breasts, less leg hair, less body odor, shorter, and more "submissive" or "docile. it's also important to note that the "asian baby face" is very much real. our skull structures are flatter, similar to a baby or a young child. because of that many fully adult women look more like teens or significantly younger than their true age.
+only gets compounded when you're one of the few East Asians who don't have A/B cup breasts, sadly.
It’s that neoteny.
Yep! Its so disgusting
East Asian beauty standards are heavily tied to pedophilia. How Koreans love double eyelids cause it makes the eyes bigger, how thin and small y'all need to be to be considered pretty, how you prefer round and oval faces, and the whole cute personality traits needed? Yeah
god that’s so disgusting
Women rlly out here with all of this pressure to look a certain way, having to fit hours of routine maintenance into their daily lives to even be regarded as feminine, but then we still get made fun of for taking longer to get ready. :)
But why do people give in to the pressure? You can reject societal constructs, it's not that hard.
@@primo4915 Because it's more difficult to get a job for example?
@@primo4915 "it's not that hard"
Yes it is. And it depends. It really depends. Something as simple as being a man with long hair can get you rejected from many jobs, I had a friend who experienced it.
You can, but you're going to have to deal with the consequences of it being considered the norms. And it can go far.
@@primo4915 you could reject social constructs, but it’s definitely not easy whatsoever. it’s literally being rejected from society. people view you as gross, and it reduces your options for occupancy, friendships/ relationships, etc.
women have been held to this standard by others for decades. nobody wants to be bullied and made fun of for not shaving, but society will do that to us if we don’t. there are plenty of women i’ve seen on social media who show their body hair and receive disgusting comments. those comments lead to insecurities and mental health issues. it’s not something you can just get over.
@@primo4915 Because it's met with scorn at best and violence at worst??? It's (for some reason) seen as a political statement so people jump on it like it's any of their business. And even if you're directly confronted about it, you still know people are judging you, and as the socially reliant creatures we are, that's going to bother you. So, it IS hard, actually.
But anyways, that's not even the point of my comment. I'm saying it's an unwinnable game because either you're going to be made a fool of due to not reaching expectations, or you're made a fool of for TRYING to reach those expectations.
The amount of little boys (4 year olds, I’m a nanny) who have been disgusted by my armpit hair is shocking, like how do u already know to shame me for that damn??
The way you said the last part 😭😭 I hate this world whose parents are teaching their 4 year olds to be weirdos
i 5 year old at the school i work at saw my hairy legs and said they kinda looked like a guy's, then ran away. i have a shaved head, too, and they all asked me if i was a boy. no, i'm a girl. i'm glad i can give them an opportunity to learn.
Because they’re unfortunately being shown how to be that hateful and judgmental. On the flip side, you can use your relationship with children as a learning opportunity for them. They may not see body hair because mommy is crushed by the patriarchy too much to realize her woes but by them seeing it on you, someone they know, you begin to create that normalcy for them. Children believe things are normal when they’re portrayed as normal.
My little brother used to shame my little sister for having hairy armpits when he was TEN. I quickly educated him on the fact that, since my sister and every other AFAB individual is a mammal, as much as he is, there's nothing wrong with having body hair
@@youronegirl11 yea I tried to just make it normal for them
When I was like 10, I hadn’t started shaving my legs yet. Because I was 10. And I was sitting at lunch and minding my own business. This kid (who was male), pointed at my legs and said “Ew! You have hair!”. This was embarrassing because everyone looked at me and giggled. I looked at his legs and saw that his were just as hairy as mine. I say “You’ve got hair, why does it matter if I’ve got it too?” He proceeded to tell me that I’m a girl and girls aren’t supposed to be hairy. So I kicked him in the shin and told a teacher. It’s sad that these gender stereotypes/roles are even impacting kids at such a young age. Your just a kid, body hair shouldn’t matter, so just have fun and eat dirt or something. 👍
Great comeback for a 10 year old! I applaud you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@victoriaalbastra6325 lol thanks
I audibly laughed at the kicking him in the shin 😂😂 excellent
You're my hero lmao the exact same thing happened to me as a 10-year-old, but I couldn't think of a thing to say. I just stayed quiet and apparently remembered it for the rest of my life in shame :(
You girlbossed before it was even made into a thing!
As someone who's been waxing since they were 12 (because of dance recitals), I can definitely say that the amount of money and pain I have sunk into the process of trying not to freak people out with my body hair is NOT worth it :). I complain about this daily. Also the editing on this video is immaculate! [Edit: guys I begged my mom to let me do it because I am half Indian and have a lot of body hair. We wore ballet leotards and I was very embarrassed. The social stigma is gross, but neither the dance school nor my mom pressured me to do it! I'm sure there are dance schools that do but this was not the case here).
same! but i just waxed bc i was bullied
I’m concerned for how they were making y’all dress @ 12 if it required a wax🤨😟
@@Ashley-lo1xy leotards
Crossover episode! Wooo woop!
@@Ashley-lo1xy As a former dancer myself I wasn't required to wax/shave but there were comments made and "suggestions." Plus once you hit 14/u (so you can still easily be as young as 12 in this group because of your birthday month and cutoffs) we were required to wear massive false lashes. Like why. You can't see them on the stage.
why are the answers to “why do we do this useless thing?” almost always “classism, sexism, and consumerism”
i cant edit but also how could i forget: COLONIALISM
Also ableism, it has gatekeeping BS too
And racism. It's always, always racism.
Unfortunately the world we live on has its roots planted in patriarchal and capitalist white supremacy. The state - similar to a facist states outward looking for enemies - needs to look within for people to victimize so as to constantly reaffirm its position at the top of the hierarchy and it's done this by creating more tiny hierarchies and imtrenching the means to violence within them.
Example, cops are stooges of the state, themselves prisoners in a system that trains them to view themselves outside of the people they (are supposed too) protect. You could argue that cops are victims of the state because of this brainwashing into violent thugs that many go through in training classes like "killology" (a real, not at all made up seminar that teaches cops yo kill people better) but being set at the top of a heirchiacal power structure, the state gives them permission to enact brutal violence onto us. Not as a way to rehabilitate or help communities, rather as a more insidious message that you are not in control and your system could choose to take you at any time if you ever step out of line.
Imo anarchy and mutual aid seem pretty dope a lot of the time and our decision to charge people for basic human necessities is where we went wrong.
These are the reasons when there are no reasons because racism, sexism, homophobia, ableism, classism, are all reason-less. They are structures of control and oppression that intrinsically make no sense, and have no legitimate basis. Oppression is counter-intuitive, detrimental to the progress of the humanity... as we are now unfortunately experiencing with the climate crisis. These structures will always yield useless behaviors, products, social norms, laws, etc.
I have had ex boyfriends who said if I didn’t shave my legs, underarms, and private areas they would break up with me. Then I met my now fiancé who told me he really doesn’t care whether I have hair or not because it’s just hair and as long as I’m clean, it doesn’t matter. I knew he was a keeper after that. He truly just loves me for me and not for my looks. Since then I haven’t shaved nearly as often as I used to and he hasn’t once cared or noticed it. His mom made a comment about my underarm hair because I hadn’t shaved in a month and he yelled at her because it literally shouldn’t matter at all and he knows that.
My partner is the same way. He said he doesn't care either way if I shave or not because hair is just hair. We're human he says.
Good on him
My partner is similar in a way. I once asked if he was okay with me having body hair and he just basically responded with "hey, just cuz it's not my thing doesn't mean i'll love you any less" and I respect this man SO MUCH OMG
Yes! My husband thinks hair is absolutely normal. In fact, he finds the idea of hairless disturbing because it’s prepubescent.
It’s actually more hygienic to keep your body hair down there due to the fact that it keeps out bacteria. So it’s kinda ironic when people say that shaving is better (hygienically) when shaving itself is purely cosmetic.
Yes exactly
Yeah good luck with the bush during periods, I wear pads, and there’s no way I’d keep hair down there during periods.
actually, its only really hygenic to shave the armpits. shaving any other part of the body doesnt do anything hygenically.
@@pootypootytangtang4k personally I have a bigger problem with pubic hair than leg or armpit hair, I cant leave them untouched for some time but not pubic hair, considering all the body’s waste goes down there
I shave so my privates won't smell as bad since pubic hairs trap a lot of bacteria that makes unpleasant scents
Talking about women and shaving always reminds me of high school and how our news thing was doing a bit on No shave November. I was in the cafeteria and walked over to my friend in the news class and her classmate who I didn't know and asked to be interviewed. I was met with severe confusion as "It's only for the boys? How could you participate?" to which I say "I haven't shaved since November started!" and rolled up my jeans to reveal my hairy legs. With how the girl cringed in disgust and threw herself away from me, shielding herself with her arms, you'd think she saw my leg slathered in dog doodoo or something. But no, it was just week and a half long leg hair.
She was so genuinely horrified and disgusted she instantly begged me to put my pant leg back down because that was, and I quote because I can't forget this, "nasty as hell." I was like "?????????????? It's just leg hair. Why are you freaking out." And they wouldn't let me participate.
As you can tell I'm still hella mad about this. She really acted like LEG HAIR was so appalling.
wow that girl must have been battling crippling internalized msogyny then.... kinda pitiful. leg hair is amazing in winter bc extra layer of warmth tbh
damn wouldve loved to see her reaction to my armpits then, ive got more armpit hair than most guys ive seen and its even more prominent because its jet black. just know theres plenty of hairy girls in the world and we're not gross or unhygienic because of it
omg you had no idea what was going on, much love to younger you stranger
@@xXWithoutMyHeroesXx bruh i still dont know wtf is going on. why tf she acted like that like bro you would have thought i revealed to her that i had the black plague or something like damn it was just leg hair on a girl.
i was in the motherfucking FIFTH GRADE when a bunch of FOURTH GRADERS came up to me all grossed out saying i needed to shave my legs. i was barely TEN YEARS OLD. JUST TURNED DOUBLE DIGITS!!!!!! THE FUCK!!!!!!! suck my fuck this coming summer im barely gonna shave, and people are going to deal with it, and if they act like that imma tell them to grow the fuck up and stop being a damn child on the playground. these past 2 years got me on some no-nonsense zero-tolerance shit.
@@Star_Rattler @Star Rattler Babe yes, when I was ten I had armpit hair that I had never even noticed, but suddenly girls were pointing it out and laughing about other girls' mustache and brows. It still makes me anxious ten years later ;; my mom had never said anything about it but that was almost worse cause I felt really disoriented!
Body hair is a never-ending war but we gotta have confidence, it's about learning what you were designed to be before misguided people hurt you. I've spent a year growing out hair and it felt like reclaiming my own body yknow? Definitely go for it!
When you listed the “childlike” qualities I immediately realized “holy crap, that’s a Manic Pixie Dream Girl” it’s crazy how deeply ingrained child & desirable women are intertwined in media portrayals (and by extension, male expectations/desires)
YES I thought the exact same thing
The manic pixie dream girl trope negatively affects those of us on the autism spectrum. Sure, if helped us be seen as "cute" and not weird, but at the same time it infantilizes us. And the only girls who get that "cute" pass are those who are society's idea of beauty but with dyed hair.
Everyone compared me to Ramona Flowers in college, it took me two years to find out that was more of an insult than anything else.
The whole infantilism of autistic women is seen on TikTok too, where we are marketed as cute and child-like.
I'm fed up with it, really. I'm tired of being told I'm child-like when I have a disability.
I'm a grown ass woman who manages an adult foster care home for schizophrenia.
@@ashleyrose4975 Sadly, this is one of those things I don't think will ever change. Women in general are infantilized by Society and I lack the creativity to imagine a world where things will ever be different. Unfortunately we're never 100% in control of our identities and one of the most painful things we need to do is learn to not put much stock in what others think or say about us. Especially when we know it's not true. You sound like a cool, self-aware, worthwhile person. I hope venting online felt good and I fully encourage to continue to do so, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for people/society to not be shit.
@@ashleyrose4975 it’s the same with ADHD women our brains work differently and people see that as a manic pixie thing
@@Em-jj2hp A lot of forms of anxiety, too. :(
When I was 12 and had started growing hair down there, I have this vivid changing room memory. I was in the changing rooms, and I was getting changed. A group of girls started pointing at my pants and laughing. At the time I thought they were laughing because of the funky pattern on my pants, but I later realised that they were laughing because they could see my dark hair through my white pants. Fucking traumatising.
Almost same story but at 16 at locker room after shower girls was see that i have full bush and start laugh at me too 😧 i am proud that i am stop shaving now because thats is normal.
same but at 9-ish. I had a very early puberty. :(
@@52mktmsk because the hair was notice able none concerning
I had the opposite experience. I didn’t really start growing pubic hair till 14/15 and it was pretty sparse. It was the 90s and all my friends teased me.
I'm not even 15 yet and my body hair screwed me up so much. I always wear jeans and leggings so the hair won't show. People I've met said horrible things about my body hair and I couldn't do anything because I'm too young. My self esteem dropped so bad and my insecurity with my body grew more and more. But after reading the comments here, I felt better hearing the ways you guys dealt with it. Thank you.
jesus christ and you guys are only kids wtf is wrong with people
I remember being in the changing rooms in school being just 13 and hearing people giggling and poking fun at anyone who didn't shave yet
Strength to you! I haven't shaved my legs and armpits in years (I'm about twice your age) and I've never felt so good about my body hair. Whenever someone makes a comment about it I embarrass them by gushing about how much I love my body hair up to the point they'll never bring it up again 😂 for contrast I keep my head hair short, same kind of strategy there. For reasons I haven't understood yet, long body hair is not considered 'feminine' but short head hair isn't either... Seriously, I never felt so comfortable with my feminity when I had long hair and shaved legs as I do now with the leg hair and pixie cut. Do whatever you feel most comfortable with and then OWN it, aggressively if you must.
When I was in seventh grade I wasn’t allowed to shave yet. I remember going to lunch and hearing the girls making fun of me because I didn’t shave my legs. They kept on making really uncomfortable jokes about me and when I told them that I wasn’t allowed to shave yet they just called me a baby. When I got back home I asked my mom if she would finally let me shave and she eventually gave in. I hate how people think that having body hair makes you disgusting and unhygienic. If people hate body hair that badly then they should shave their hair and eyebrows off.
I’m in a similar situation. I haven’t overheard anyone bullying me, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if people talk about me while I’m not around. On the other hand, maybe I’m just too self-conscious and nobody cares because they have their own problems to deal with.
When you have a small mustache and boys notice it and be like "You have a mustache" well I mean atleast mine grew in.
This! I've been called out for mine by guys before.
Everyone points it out sooner or later it's really annoying, the same thing goes for my arm hair. They act as if I dont see it everyday. And there was this one guy who would tease me about it almost every day he also fat shamed me :/ I was really skinny and unhealthy at the time so that just added on to my body dysmorphia, he later on confessed saying he likes me. I'm giving in to shaving just to get his nagging voice out of my head. Thanks for reading my rant have a nice day.
@@lisx.x idk why guys like to point out things just to get someone's attention
I remember in 7th grade when some girls had mustaches earlier the boys would add man to their name, it was so stupid. Like Maniya, or Manren.
This is interesting. You complain about being humiliated by boys since they passively critique your physical appearance, but then you immediately try and put down them by saying they can’t grow body hair, which is linked to the topic of men needing to fit into society’s standards for how “masculine” they should be (one being growing a lot of body hair), so essentially, while complaining about the standards for women, you’re further pushing the standards for men.
I remember my mom laughing hysterically when my dad told her he was worried about me, 12 y/o at the time, taking hormones "to become a man" because I had dark hairs on my legs and it "wasn't normal". A grown man, in his 40s ...
wtf that’s awful. So sorry you went through that
My biggest issue with the body hair debate is being villianized for not wanting to shave. I am lazy, I do not want to spend hours of my life fighting an uphill battle against nature. If you want to, go ahead, but I’ve spent so much of my post-puberty life being told how gross and unhygienic it is to not want to shave legs/underarms/pubic area, I’m over it at this point.
Honestly! I don't have the time to just start shaving absolutely everything! I like my body hairs the way they are. Ive never shaved them so they have a nice texture, making my arms and legs feel smoother. Not to mention, they *have* a purpose. Imagine wanting a person to get rid of a part of them that protects them
god for REAL, and its only back the next day anyway and i am not going through the whole damn thing AGAIN the next day, hell no. Life is too short to waste all that time on literally nothing, i'm a woman i'm fucking busy!
Yep. Takes a LOT more time than guys think to shave two whole legs and whatever else on top of that. Not sure if this is true for other ladies, but my skin also gets sUPER irritated, red, and spotty when I shave too much, maybe I’m just using crappy products. Like, it HURTS to shave and it looks like I have chicken pox for days after. (Leaves a lot of scarring too.) The only times my skin doesn’t do this is when my hairs have gotten super long, it’s like they protect what’s underneath. To me there is literally no upside to shaving as often as people want me to. At least my way keeps my legs pretty in the long run🤣
@@arseneamulet1882 I was in gym and my friends once touched my legs and they where like “wow your legs are really smooth” and I was like “oh” and at that time I didn’t shave my legs, but eventually I thought my leg hair was getting to long so I shaved. I don’t shave a lot like how I use to before, I only shave once in a while now😁
Same. I am light skinned and have thick black hair. I spent hours trying to get rid every hair on my legs as a teen just to wear shorts. Had to do the whole leg, and was jealous of light haired girls that appeared to have naturally hairless legs and arms. At a point I just wore pants in the summer. It took me until my 30s to be over it. So much time and stress over shaving or bleaching. The anxiety of someone pointing out any hair on my back if visible. It still has effects on my self confidence but screw it.
I'm a 19yo asexual (and virgin) girl who last year has for the first time ever tried to get into the whole dating culture just out of curiosity. Let me tell you now, literally EVERYTIME i told a guy i was a virgin they immediately started treating me like a precious little child and trying as hard as they could to get into my pants, even by trying to gaslight me, manipulate me and win me over with gifts, attention or whatever. I'm still asexual, but now I'm forever traumatized. Thanks a lot men
Men suck, I’m so sorry they did that :(
I’m also a 19yo asexual, and I’ve been avoiding dating for this exact reason lol. I literally don’t know how I’d explain that I kinda want to stay a virgin forever???
im really sorry they did that. never even give a guy a chance if he tries that shit
If you are asexual consider yourself lucky. You get to check out of this never ending war.
Aro here. Romance itself is fundamentally f--ked and contributed to my big trauma, too. So lust-oriented
literally i am so sick of the fact that women are expected to have literally every inch of their bodies completely free of hair but boys can walk around looking like a fully grown sasquatch. literally why am i going to be stinky because of hair but youre just fine? seriously, this double standard is getting to me.
The world would be a happier place if men had smooth bodies
@@ishmamahmed9306 the world would be a happier place if everyone can choose to be smooth, not forced.
Yup. Like I agree, the fact that hair holds onto the stink is real, but dayum boi that means you gotta shave too, your pits look as gross as mine!😆
Do they think that girls don’t take showers or something 💀
Yup. And men sweat more in general because of testosterone, you’d think they’d be the ones shaving for hygiene if that was the actual goal.
Halfway through this video after the comparison between childlike qualities and femininity, made me realize that whenever I tried to pull the "kid card" in order to be seen as "unappealing" infront of other men only made them more attracted to me. Trying to be seen as a "minor" to be left alone did the opposite. And that's terrifying to look back.
When I see girls do the "sweet innocent child" act I always assume they do it because they know that men are more attracted to that... Still hard to image some girls not being aware of this.
@@AurelynI think she means saying she isn't interested because she is a minor as well as acting childish. Common way to steer off unwanted attention if youre young enough
@@Aurelynyep. Many men are pigs. They will literally see childish=naive=easy. They don't really think "wow great, i am a pedophile this is lucky" for the most part though. They also search for "MILFs" a lot because old=desperate, mummy, pre-monopausa, unsatisfied marriage or whatever is in their head
Say you're 40 then
@@stannosaurus that's exactly what I meant
I’m in my early 20s, petite, asian, and it’s VERY ALARMING the amount of 40+ year old men who find me attractive. I straight up had an older man tell me he liked how hairless I was 🚨🚨🚨
This happens to every girl
Yikes, sorry you have to deal with that
I hate old men that are creepy like that, unfortunately there's so many of them 🤮
I think it's a very open thing in asia? I mean, I stopped reading manga because there was so much male gaze/pedo shit littered everywhere.
You’re on your 20’s. There’s literally nothing wrong with someone’s liking the way to look/complimenting you. I also have older women tell me that they like the way I look but I take it as a compliment instead of getting offended by it.
I once "dated" this guy who told me he was a feminist and that he didn't care if girls shaved. Literally anytime I was with him, he would feel up my leg (I didn't mind) but he would always point out whether or not I had shaved. Like he'd either be like "oh you shaved today" or "oh you didn't shave". For someone who didn't care if I shaved he was obsessed with the idea of it and always had to point it out. I didn't know how to feel about it lmao.
I mean if he doesn't care then he probably wouldn’t have pointed it out lmao it just makes no sense
What a creep
hes a weirdo, very odd how he kept tabs on what you did with YOUR body lol
He just enjoyed touching you and simply remarked upon what he found when he did.
My bf is like this too. I don't think it's creepy at all, he doesn't shame me or praises me for it. I don't blame him, i feel my legs too when I'm freshly shaved. So smooth and soft!
I’m 14 and get harassed about my body hair by the guys in my family. My brother thinks it’s hilarious to call me a gorilla or a man because of my hair, and my dad once told me to wear jeans instead of shorts because he was worried about how he would look as the father of a girl with hairy legs. I was 10 at that time. Funnily enough, my friends were surprised when they found out that I shave because apparently they don’t 🤷🏾♀️ They don’t judge me shaven or unshaven, which is a crazy level of acceptance I never thought I’d be given. Interesting how my afab friends are more supportive than the guys in my family 🧐
thats really nice of your friends!!
@be Love 'em to the world and back 😊
flip the tables and start pointing out their body hair.
i never shave and my favorite is when my dad called me sasquatch when he saw my hairy legs
Same my brothers always have to point out my leg in arm hair it’s so annoying
I've decided not to shave my legs, armpits usw (Im 15) and the amount of Times I've been told from ADULT MEN how dirty and disgusting I am, is truly disturbing.
I’m so sorry, that’s cruel. On the positive side, you’re braver than me. I don’t shave for long periods of time, but I don’t have the confidence to show it off
Why the hell are you staring at some kids armpit as a grown ass man.
A easy but effective comeback
I love how you don’t claim that people that like “small/petite/short” women are also doing so because those traits are “childlike.” As a person who is short and skinny when people say that it’s like I’m being told I’m a child and only creepy people will ever be attracted to me, for something I can’t change.
I‘m also short and skinny and I’d hate the thought of only creeps being attracted to me
Yes! Recently there's been quite the trend to label attraction to petite and small chested women as some kind of deranged borderline pedophelia and everytime I see this I think how disrespectful it is to tell adult women that the only men who could ever be attracted to their natural bodies are closeted predators.
I also think it's troubeling how this train of thinking links womanhood and healthy attraction inherently to one body type.
same here, its literally such a confidence and self-esteem destroyer. fuck those people
Honestly she did kinda imply that all the "cute" attributes in a woman are attractive to us men because they remind us of children. I really wish she hadn't made that point, it's weird and gross to even suggest.
@@FunkiMonki69 I agree when she started saying that it made me kinda uncomfortable bc those traits aren’t exclusive to children. I’m just glad she didn’t just bodyshame petite women.
I'm extremely hairy (dark and thick) thanks to my ethnicity and I gave up controlling it. In school the boys (and even girls occasionally but not as much) would always mock me for my hairy arms and legs, once even a teacher made a comment. But at the exact same time, I was complimented on my long lashes, thick eyebrows, and very long and thick hair! Why rip out the hair on certain parts of my body except for the long hair on my eyes and head because that is okay? It just stopped making sense to me. My hair grew back dark the morning after shaving anyway. I still feel so self-conscious when I go out leg hair blowing in the wind but I'm trying not to care.
I'm sorry you experienced that and I agree. I was too complimented for other hairy parts. My hair is thick, straight and natural black. I was exotic compared to everyone else. That meant that my arms, legs, back looked HAIRY compared to them.
You're right it doesn't make sense. Your leg hair is just like any other hair you have.
In school, children are often very teasing, they haven't had much experience to form a real opinion. I'm sorry, again, that you went through that.
Adults usually keep controversial opinions to themselves. Someone will always dislike you for something, it's unavoidable, hope this fact helps.
@@1337-i3v Your response made me feel so emotional! Thank you for sharing your experience and response it means a lot.
Same. I don't have amazing thick hairy (and sadly it's extremely frizzy) but compared to the other girls in school (on good hair days) I had super nice and luscious hair and my friends always complimented me for it. Said friends called me Chewbacca when I wore a shirt with my unshaved arms exposed. 🙃
That’s such a good point which I’ve never thought of.
Broo same! Like the bodily hair bad bad thing is not really big in my country, most girls have hairy arms and legs me included. Though I did get made fun of because I was literally in 2nd or 3rd grade with hairy arms and legs and you know children are demons lol. I'm 17 now but I still have my hair and most girls at my school too, but ever since westernization is growing day by day it is frowned upon, even I myself didn't like and wanted to removed it. But now I know that it's part of my body and my hair genes and it's nothing to feel wrong about. My thick eyebrows, long lashes and thick head hair are always complimented. I just started to remove my underarm hair last year though because I sweat a lot and hair holds onto moisture and it felt very gross and smelly. When I removed my hair for the first time I felt so clean so I'm going to keep doing this. I wasn't forced by mom or anything either, I wanted to do it myself for hygiene reasons.
I quit shaving regularly because of how badly it irritates my skin, that and I accidentally cut myself pretty badly one too many times. My mom is pretty open-minded in general but I can't get through to her on why I don't want to shave, it's like she can't comprehend the idea of it. I was like, how come my brother gets to walk around looking like a werewolf but I HAVE to subject myself to feeling uncomfortable just for the sake of others (she's also aware that I'm asexual and aromantic and very much not interested in finding a romantic partner anyway).
Yeah, screw that, you really don't have to. If you have figured out that you can do whatever you want with your body and your hair and your mother hasn't.... Then that makes you the more mature one in this context. Own your body hair and don't ever shave it unless you, yourself want to.
As an african immigrant when I was a kid watching tv and some advertisements and was very mortified when I saw people compare razors and how some can cut skin. I once evan at age 8 by curiosity tried it and got cut and can still remember my mom questioning what happened😳.
Yes me too! I have eczema so it really irritates me but my mom still makes me shave.
@@caralineg6568 I'm a man but I do shave my armpits for esthetic, and I have EXTREMELY sensitive skin. So if it can help you, I use olive oil right or almond oil right after. It helps a lot.
This hits home for me. My parents accept my decision when I choose not to shave but they act absolutely FLABBERGASTED. I explain how moronic the double standard is and how there is actually no logically reason women need to shave but they just can't wrap their heads around it. I want them to understand so badly and I'm glad that at least the younger generation is starting to change this ideal.
as a boy who grows a lot of hair, i always struggled with my self-image. i always hated being hairy and wished that i could just shave my legs or arms without being chastised for it. I never wanted to be the "hot, hairy, macho man with a beard" i wanted to be clean shaven and hairless. pointlessly gendered things are stupid women should be allowed to skip out of shaving for a couple weeks without being made fun of, and men should be able to shave their legs without being called the f word
You're literally me, brother !
@@weirdshrimpnumber9755 right? being hairy honestly sucks when you know there's not a lot you can do about it
The hottest guy in our highschool used to shave his legs cause he just liked the feel of it ☠️ and that's what everyone should be allowed to do without being shamed or bullied
@@sparksfly6149 well not to be a Debbie downer but as a popular kid or “the most handsome guy in school” they tend to get away with a lot more than you would if you weren’t in that position. I always weird reactions to my body hair, when I would keep it people would talk about how weird and disgusting it looked, but as soon as I shaved it I was “gay” like there’s something wrong with that. After a while I stopped shaving my body hair because if I’m going to be a loser than why do I have to take extra time out of every single day to get rid of something that’s just going to be back in the morning.
Sameeee omg
I feel the same way about the twink archetype. The obsession with hairless young-looking people is so creepy and gross
It really aggravates me and creeps me out as a gay man. Like, obviously its their choice, but the glorification of *that* look and attitude just comes off weird to me.
How do you feel about femboys?
@@Wulajo_frog yall are sweaty as he'll dusty
U prefer old hary people
Lmao not isn't
I wish I could share this everywhere. Like it’s insane to me that so many humans on this planet walk around living like this and thinking that this is the only way. And to even call people crazy or not attractive for having hair, think that someone thinks you are lesser for not fitting in these “requirements”. Men constantly fetishizing minors and younger women. It’s so bizarre that it’s the norm and that trying to change these roles almost seem Impossible. Just wild.
Yep yep yep yep yep yep yep
i know it's so upsetting
No one thinks you’re lesser, but probably they don’t want to deal with you on a personal level, just like I don’t like some physical qualities on men, they don’t like some qualities on women. It’s pretty simple
@bonky I am a woman I don’t feel I’m held to a different standard when it comes to hair by any means
@bonky it is unsanitary on men too, I require the same thing from my partner
I started absolutely refusing to shave my legs anymore 2 years ago! My boyfriend hates it. Oh well!
Also. Why is "teen" a category of porn thats been so normalized? Soooo glad you mentioned that! It has always borthered me so much!
How does your boyfriend handle it if he hates it? As in, are there any issues between you two for you not shaving?
@@1337-i3v I give him no choice prettymuch. No major issues, I think when someone actually loves you they grow to accept little quirks about you. He comments on it sometimes just being funny but I dont think he really cares he just shakes his head sometimes or laughs about it. Took him a good 3 months to get used to the fact that I WASNT going to shave them anymore though
@mikaela manzue Oh! That's great then. Stand up for yourself, as you do 👍 It is true, when we love someone we can accept their new habits for an example. (not saying this is a habit, it was just an example)
Funny of you to turn it into a laugh! :)
@@mikaelamanzue4675 tell your boyfriend that if he wants you to shave, he has to do it too lol.
Just throw the whole man away lol
Similarities to children and things considered sexy:
No body hair.
Calling someone “daddy” as a sexual nickname.
School girl uniforms.
Pig tails.
Being shorter than your male partner.
Being younger than your male partner.
Being a virgin or inexperienced.
Etc…
See a pattern? 🤔🤔
Yikes. Society is doomed.
For a good deal of that, the opposite is also considered sexy. I can't keep track. Hetero men will screw anything, basically.
The being shorter thing is just regular ol' sexual dimorphism I think
What’s scary is that not even kids are hairless 😭 like literally not even BABIES are hairless. girls start growing pubic hair at the average age of 10 and 11 like… 😑 if u what a hairless partner that’s low-key weird..
@@amazinggrapes3045 true but women will literally gag if their partner is cursed with short genes
You want to shave: shave. You don't want to shave:Don't. But don't let society push you to do something you don't want to do.
Stop , you will make this video of more than thirty minutes useless 🤣
@@lovelessshoot883 This is just my opinion on the matter.
@@lovelessshoot883 you've seriously misunderstood something if you think this video is telling you what to do with your body hair 🙄 maybe actually watch it first
as all things.
Thanks but I will continue to let society push me to shave my armpits and legs as long as I need to in order to avoid bullying and harassment.
Women are infantilized, young girls are sexualized. I feel like a great example would've been Shirley Temple. Some of her performances made me cringe extra hard at the behaviour of the GROWN men around her. Not only that, but what she became when she grew up was amazing but people still laughed at her for being more serious and still referred to her as a "young lady" despite all she was doing. They wanted her to get back on stage with her hair in pigtails, in a puffy babydoll dress singing and dancing for them. It's sick.
Ooh, about that. U remember the cut on her baby doll dress 🤨...
I JUST read an article in Smithsonian Magazine about the work Shirley Temple did as an adult. I know she did work at the UN, but I didn't know how seriously she took that work and the huge impact she had on the body at large. It's a good read if you can get your hands on it. I think it's time we acknowledge her work in film because it's a part of her life, obviously, but put much more weight on her work as an adult. Hey legacy deserves to be more than "cute girl was really famous for some really questionable work in a really questionable industry".
Yeah and men are not sexualized at all , young boys aren't sexualized to the point where the emo girls call them feminine at all . Men are not resourcefully or what he can do for you like objectified at all .
@@user-kp4jh6jo3r And who said they aren't?? Ain't nobody said men aren't sexualized..😭
@@plateofpasta835 Men are more objectified than women if not sexualized.
I remember dating a guy who made a big fuss about seeing bush in Game of Thrones as if he had right to protest with his gross hairy hobbit feet perched on my coffee table.
I’m glad that your sentence is in the past, meaning that you’re no longer dating that piece of sh*t... Otherwise I would’ve commented “LEAVE HIM.”
wasn’t the Game Of Thrones placed in like medieval times lol??? you’d think he had enough common sense to realize that women in the 1300’s weren’t busy shaving
I think there was plucking of sorts *down there* in different cultures, like France in the 1800’s.
This comment ☠️☠️☠️ But honestly, what were they supposed to do? I’m sure men back then (as bad as it was) didn’t care, so why now? I think the hairless trend has mostly been perpetuated by porn. It’s stupid and it sucks.
@@goddessreverierosehawthorn3724 they used sugar wax in the middle east and probably India too thousands on years ago. In Islam both men and women are required to remove armpit and pubic hair.
Aside from... everything else... the amount of time, effort and discomfort from hair removal can be huge, it's a massive thing to expect of someone. I have thick hair and sensitive skin, but shaved for years due to social pressure. My hair would grow back to stubble every single day, so I just constantly had stubble on my body. It was itchy and sore, it made me sweat more, I got ingrown hairs, always had little accidental cuts, my skin looked blotchy/spotty and became super sensitive to soap/deodorant (even though I used fresh, clean razors, moisturised etc.) and even when I was freshly shaved you could still see dark hair under the surface so it didn't look 'good'. I tried waxing but most of the hair stayed rooted and my skin bled. I tried hair removal creams and they had no effect (none!) even if I left them on past the recommended time till my skin started to burn. I would spend so much time every day trying to remove hair (so much of my precious time wasted!) and I was always uncomfortable... all this so I could just be 'acceptable' to leave the house, all while I was trying to work and study and have fun. Insane. Not to mention I was SO paranoid about being freshly shaved before someone might touch my body, because if I hadn't shaved everywhere in the few hours beforehand I'd be stubbly and scratchy and uncomfortable. So glad I said "fuck this" and stopped shaving years ago.
Yeah, it just don't worth it. And I don't understand why so many women all around the globe are ok with those sufferines. For what?
If man wants his woman always suffer to see her as attractive one then woman better of without such a man
You explained it exactly!
It's the same for me, thick hair and sensitive skin. I also had the same shaving problems as you. Now I don't shave but my hair texture is still not the same, shaving destroyed it
Fr, bless you
I’m the same. Instant stubble! I never understood how anyone could shave and then be hairless for a while because I always grew my hair back immediately. Also, my mom always told me I didn’t need to shave above my knee because nothing grew there. Ummm I have dark coarse hair all over my thighs. I was always so ashamed in high school because I wasn’t supposed to have to shave there. Now I haven’t shaved anything for a few years but I still am very self conscious about wearing shorts in the summer. Maybe someday I’ll be confident enough…
I am a teenager and honestly the pressure is real, i dont shave or wear makeup because i know i do it for the wrong reasons and become insecure. My friends at school do wear makeup and shave and i feel bad seeing that they feel the need to shave for boyfriends and i was told by one friend her ex boyfriend made her so insecure of her leg hair because he called her really nasty names, she was 15. I still sometimes feel pressure to do these things to feel pretty by others standards but i really dont want to. Theres also shame within families, my parents would sometimes dress code me even when we would go out together, or i would get asked if i want to do my makeup when seeing family. Its like they are ashamed of the part of me that make me human sometimes. This is in no way to bash girls and women who do wear makeup or shave but to tell my story as someone who doesnt because of how i will be viewed differently especially by men. I like who i am and i wont change myself to feel pretty for others.
My mom pressures me to shave every week but doesn't do so for my twin brother. It's incredibly frustrating :(
My mom pressures me to wear makeup for events and pictures. She knows I hate it.
It’s amazing that your standing up for your beliefs.
@@MK_Brie Im sorry she does that, Thats really unfortunate i wish i could help you or give you a hug. Stick to what you believe in.
@@SN-vn6wb Your mom should not do that, that is your freedom and choice. It is your body and not hers. Wish i could give more support im really sorry :(. I hope your doing good.
My dad: "you need to shave your legs you're going to scare somebody with your hair cuz you look like a boy"
Also my dad: "dont pay attention to boys or try to look good for them, that's not a priority"
Pick a side bro, I don't even like boys but I'm still pushed to look nice in a way that boys will like it literally makes no sense and people shouldn't talk to their children or especially women in this condescending way
My own d@d used to tell me that I couldn't hang out with boys, and that I needed to dress appropriately for my age. Yet this is the same guy who did inappropriate things to me as a child. The male collective are gaslighting hypocrites.
Guys have hair literally everywhere, we can't go around acting like women should go through the effort of shaving. It takes ages and the hair just grows back. It's natural. Nobody should feel forced to shave just to please others, it should always be a personal choice.
I agree with this. I only shave for me, not for anyone else. Anyone else who wishes to shave should keep this in mind.
I stopped shaving my arms years ago but I will now stop shaving my legs and pits for as long as I live and only just trim and groom hair now. I don't want people to look at a completely hairless pussy and get turned on by that because they dont want to be with a woman they want to be with a woman who looks like a child and that's fucking sick as fuck.
Not all guys I'm a guy and I feel disgusted with body hair on me except my hair and trimmed moustache I shave every corner of my body
I wish all men had smooth bodies. The world would be a better place.
@dance 100 yeaa..
I've had rather hairy arms and legs for my entire life - it's blond, so most people don't notice much, but by the time I was in year three (seven years old, for those keeping count) I was starting to be ashamed and super uncomfortable with my body hair (again, I was SEVEN). I was hanging out with my friend (a girl) and was wearing short sleeves. She said something along the lines of "Your arms are so hairy!" and I was sure she was going to mock me for it. Instead, she started running her hand over my arm and saying "It's so soft!" I don't know why that was thing that made me comfortable with my body hair again, but I've never shaved because of it.
awhh I'm so happy to hear that you don't deserve to be made fun of simply for existing and your body being healthy and natural
I've had a similar experience too! It provided comfort to a really anxious person in my case, and now it's my own comfort as well. When I'm nervous, I can feel my leg hair and feel protected by it.
That's so pure 😭
That reminds me of when I told someone her cellulite was super cool because it looked like she had lightning powers. Unfortunately it didn't go as well as your experience hehe. Probably because we weren't kids; she was an adult and I was a teenager. I'm autistic so my thought process was that I knew people were often ashamed of cellulite and I thought it looked awesome so I wanted to make her feel good about it.
If a bit of hair is going to deter you from having a good time I don't think your old enough to be in the bedroom.
Can-
Can I steal this?
@@_____________a_a Be my guest.
Thank you.
@@redrinn105 thank you
say it louder
I’ve decided that if a guy wants me to shave he’s fixing to have to shave *all* of his stuff first. Equality my good sir.
Legit. I'd happily shave if he shaves too XD equality. No hair feels nice on all genders
Naaaah, I don't wanna sleep with a hairless child so I'd say to him: next!
For the record - I don't shave my legs, armpits, and only trim pubic hair because it's uncomfortable when they're too long. I even stopped plucking my eyebrows and they're looking fiiiine.
@@Mia199603 to each their own. :)
@@DeMafiaGirl heck yeah, body hair is coarse and i find it irritating (as in the sense, not the emotion). Hairless all the way for me.
I like a nice hairy chest that I can cry on, something tear absorbent, but I prefer the chin warmers to be shaved smooth 🤌
As someone who never shaves anymore, it has been HARD getting over the embarrassment and thought of my own body. I find myself apologizing to doctors if they see my body hair, or nail technicians, massage therapists etc. Many people in my family have called me downright disgusting for not shaving.
It’s pretty weird how it is seen as disgusting and not “caring for yourself”. Believe me, I feel so much more cared for, and healthy with my body hair. No more razor burn if you know what I mean.
Anyway, the people who matter don’t mind it at all. And I’ll keep trying to reverse the stigma in my own mind, for my own sake. Can’t wait to be comfortable with my decision to be my normal human self with body hair.
yes!!! I feel you :( people always stare at me when I go out (I wear shorts often) but I refuse to do things SOLELY for other people's approval, strangers even, anymore. it's none of their business what we choose to do with our bodies!!! keep doing you :)
i don't shave because i just don't want to, but im still so embarrassed about it. i always wear clothes that cover my legs and last time i had an ultrasound, i shaved down below cause i didn't want the doctor to think i was dirty, which is the most ridiculous thing? and i know it shouldn't matter, but i still wear long-sleeved tops and jeans in the summer
Just shave
@Silver Stone they don’t want to. Shaving can have negative effects on you’re body, it’s expensive, and unnecessary. That being said, as they mentioned, not shaving has a lot of problems with it as well but most of those come from the negative feelings we have developed because of long standing social stigma. Let people chose what they want, don’t shame them either way, and acknowledge that there are many reasons for their choices.
I'm in the same process! But I didn't had the courage yet to go to the doctor or massage therapist without shaving. I'm now 27, my boyfriend doesn't care if I shave or not, I now do it when I want to, about once a month. However I feel the need to shave my legs when I know I will go at my parents' house.. I'm already embarrassed with my body because I am a little overweight, and I don't want my family to think that I don't take care of myself
As a girl, the hair on my legs is very small and thin and always found it reliving that I don't have to shave my legs. But then I realized why that it. I grow a lot of armpit hair and my mom would tell me to shave and I asked her why and she told me that it's unladylike. Then I asked why my brother doesn't shave and she told me that guys just don't, no further explanation. The double standard is CRAZY.
I'm blonde so my body hair is lighter and I never feel the need to shave or wax. I kinda like having it actually
@@pissapocalypsethis is me except I’m dark skin with dark black hair
as a short asian girl with a squeaky voice that is basically called a loli and fetishized, this hits home. it’s disgusting because I can’t do anything that people will look at me in a certain way and either be disgusted or lured in.
I relate to this so much
i’m short and black, 18, have a round face and “pretty” enough features i guess, but it genuinely distresses me about how i’ll always look like a child until i’m, idk, in my mid-twenties. i don’t know if i’ll ever be able to be desirable in an adult and womanly way rather than a fetishized childish way and it’s just a mess on my self esteem.
@@misslydiawashere fr I’m 19 now and the amount of “ oh you have a baby face and a high voice how cuteeee” from men into me is GROSS I hate it
Man I still remember the lolita fetish they have among anime fans. It's disgusting tho I do hope weebs having a lolita anime girl fetish doesn't expect that from real life girls (like.. keeping fiction aside from reality)
same bro. people are always calling me cute, treating me like a fucking child 😟 it’s literally so annoying 😭😭
We really are letting men tell us that our body hair is unhygienic when they are literally walking around caked in smegma 🤮
The ones with caked in smegma are probably also the ones stupid enough to think hair automatically makes it unhygienic.
Preach
bro i choked on my smoothie reading this 💀
smegma 💀
What's smegma?
as a 15 year old girl, i've noticed and seen through all of this stupidity. i shave whenever i feel like it. i don't care if my legs, or armpits are showing in what i wear. if there's hair, there's hair! i've learned to ignore other people's opinions. i believe that it's way more beautiful to be natural and let it grow!
please teach me your ways
thank you! if I want to wear a tank top i'm wearing the dang tank top.
Yes same! I’m 16 & I think the same way :)
lmao same, if I wanna shave I will and if I don't wanna shave I won't it's as simple as that, people need to kind their own business and stfu if they have a problem. It's not our fault we don't want constant razor burns or having to waste all that time shaving when we could be doing something else 🤩
Yessss exactly. There’s nothing gross about it except how people view it, and that’s their problem.
As an autistic women the list of childlike characteristics made me cringe. I’ve been infantilized much of my life and it’s the absolute WORST
same, its awful. That happened to me especially in school for some reason.
_lolita_ is one of my favorite books and having so many people be like "omg it's a saucy romance with a hot age gap" makes both my soul and brain hurt
Said no one ever about Lolita. Stop lying 🤣
@@LeonardoDaVinciLulz not in these exact words
I haven't read it but why is it your favorite book?
@@LeonardoDaVinciLulz there’s an awfully surprising lot of people i’ve seen in passing on social media that think of lolita as romantic or sexy. maybe it’s because they’ve only skimmed the book or only heard of it in passing but there’s definitely a vocal group that says something along those lines
@@chaizea9429 it’s one of my favorites because not only does nabokov write it so incredibly (though the frequent french twisted me around a bit during my first reading) but also because of the subject matter, which i suppose connects to nabokov’s writing once more. the narrator humbert is a despicable human being and acknowledges that, and his unreliability as a narrator makes it so interesting to read, especially when factoring in “what was this like in dolores’s perspective?” it’s also just one hell of a ride and chock full of times where i had to put the book down and just stare at the wall so i recommend you read it if you can stomach it!
This is why skirts, tank tops, and bikinis were always lost in the deep depths of my wardrobe because I only really pulled them out when I was perfectly shaved. Imagine being a young girl, sad because you’re hairy and not hairless like other girls. Society would destroy me if I went out and didn’t take care of my hair every time. I wanted to wear skirts too!
I think you should do it anyways I never ever shave my legs and I often wear shorts and I have to heard anyone say anything about it. Even if they did think it was bad or said anything, it’s not any of my business cause their opinion on my body is completely irrelevant. Please wear whatever you want they are just normal people like you and you don’t have to look good for any of those people, it’s more important to feel happy than to make them feel happy.
Yeah I’m happy I’m growing up with so many pro- shave if u want to people
It ruined my teens and young adulthood, I feel you.
Now it's mostly gone, b/c of waxing and aging.
I feel you...I hate skirts and dresses anyways but for years I avoided wearing shorts because I was too scared of being judged for not shaving my legs. The level of shame associated with body hair on women is really frightening.
As a girl, I don’t shave/wax my legs because I think it’s pointless.
“Oh its for hygiene purposes and stuff” Oh really? Brushing your teeth and showering is for hygiene purposes. Leg hair has nothing to do with it. If it was a problem, EVERYONE would do it. The only advantage to removing leg hair is for when you do competitive bike racing and you fall off your bike, you don’t lose large swaths of skin when you fall off. That’s it.
There is no point to shave/wax other than aesthetics. And very weird aesthetics too.
Leg hair is not problematic in any way until you try to remove it, and then suddenly its problematic in that its incredibly expensive.
Personally, I find both shaving and waxing to be very painful, and found them to be frequently required. Why is it worth it? Why? Someone please explain to me. I’ve recently given up on it all together because I could not justify it.
Not to mention, WHY IS SOMEONE STARING AT YOUR LEG HAIR? Does it offend you that one hair on my legs is still there? WHY? ITS ONE HAIR!
The thing is, tho, now that I’ve stopped removing it, everyone around me seems to be silently judging me for not removing it. Isn’t it my choice on how I treat my body? And I’m not causing harm to anyone else or my self?
Society and gender norms are messed up you guys. Sorry for the long rant, I needed to get that off my chest.
Wait, why would having no body hair make it so that you get less hurt when you fall from a bike? I would have thought the opposite, if anything.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 When you fall off a bike going really fast, you lose skin in big chunks if your hair gets caught on the pavement or something like that. Someone I know who bikes a lot told me that, but I kinda forgot it tbh. I don’t bike a lot.
Things like urine and sweat cling to hair more, so it is dirtier/unsanitary. And, no one wants to eat hair, especially pissy sweaty hair. Don't complain if people don't want to go down on you while you've got a bush that's built like a hedgehog.
I'm a man, and I shave my armpits, and my parts. Since these are the most unsanitary areas, I make them as sanitary as possible. Not just form myself, but others.
It's common decency, not about societal standards, or anything about 'wanting a younger looking woman' or any other nonsense.
Though I will say, leg/arm hair, it's mostly a non-issue, but, like you said, in this case, from an aesthetical standpoint, it's nicer looking. And there's nothing wrong with having a preference like that.
@@autumn5592 pubic hair is there for a reason .It serves a protective function by trapping pathogens that could otherwise enter your body. Removing pubic hair may therefore make a person more susceptible to common infections, such as UTIs, vaginitis etc. and for solving the pissy and sweaty smell problem one should wash down there regularly along with periodic trimming.That being said shaving off pubic hair should be a personal choice not a societal norm.
@@mysticalriver9650 well said.
At 31 years old I officially stopped shaving anything for a few years now! Legs, armpits, arms, stomach, vagina….I let the hair grow and leave it alone, if I trim pubic hair it’s only for my comfort. I also opt out of bras and sometimes undies. Whomever doesn’t like it can’t kiss my hairy ass 💁🏾♀️ I’ve got enough to worry about, ima feel comfortable in my own skin!
You rock!!
Bad bitch right here. Need to do this
I’ve had my own goddamn parents call me disgusting for having body hair. My dad looks like damn Sasquatch and has the nerve to call MY body hair ugly. I’m not shaving, it’s gross and unhygienic, it just opens up space for your skin to get damaged, body hair is GOOD and is there for a REASON. Women who don’t shave are dope as hell and probably have massive meat
pls- massive meat. but wow fuck anyone who thinks they can call something natural about your body, about almost everyone's body, "ugly" or "unnatural"
Shaving your hair doesn't increase risk of infection or any other risk, it's just uncomfortable. If you're worried about razors, you should use a trimmer (electric razor), so you don't remove the entire exposed hair, just the vast majority of it.
Having hair on your body is inherently unhygenic, especially if you don't frequently shower, removing this hair removes surfaces for dirt, sweat, urine, etc to sit, so less bacteral growth is present, meaning you are more hygenic.
Body hair, on other parts of the body, were there to maintain temperature, on the pubic area to reduce friction, this is basically a non-issue in modern society, people have clothing, and lube.
No one wants to go down on their partner and eat hair, it's horrid, especially pissy sweaty hair. Remove it, or at the least trim it, otherwise don't expect people to go down on you. I wouldn't if I had a full bush around my parts. It's not about societal standards for women, it's not about 'women looking younger', it's about common decency with your sexual partner. (Now, if you don't have one, sure, do whatever, no one is going near it anyway, lmao)
For reference, I am a man, I shave my body hair almost every time I bathe/shower, I do no expect women to want to go down on me while I've got any bush at all, no one wants to deal with hair. It is more hygenic in general, since there's less places for sweat to stick to on my body, and I smell and feel fresher for it.
I'm not saying women, or men, SHOULD do it, I'm saying, be decent to your partners, you don't have to shave if you don't want, but, don't expect certain sexual acts because of it.
@@Punkini
I love how they go into this long butt comment about body hair, like they're insecure about their own.
Stay strong, your body hair is not disgusting.
@@rdred8693 right? Like it sounds like he just doesn’t wash his pubes LOL… don’t know about him but I clean my shit daily. Not to mention he’s 100% wrong about the “body hair is unhygienic!!!1!” Argument. I’d link proof but that gets flagged as spam lmao.
@@autumn5592 Shaving causes micro abrasions, and micro abrasions increase the likelihood of acquiring an STI. Body hair can also be washed. If someone has body hair, they can even shower before intimacy. That’s a pretty good practice for everyone. It’s ok for you to have personal preferences; just like it’s ok for everyone else to have their own unique preferences for body hair, or lack there of. The argument that simply having body hair is unhygienic is false. As long as people shower on a regular basis, the opposite is actually true. Consult some peer reviewed medical journals. Ask a few doctors. Shaving isn’t a necessity; it’s a preference.
I'm remembering of a day earlier this year when I was walking around my house in a tank top because it was so hot, I was in the kitchen minding my business when my dad walked in, he looked at me and said: "girl, go shave that, that isn't normal!". He was talking about my armpits. I looked at him with my best "I can't believe you said that" face and said: "ok". I didn't, because I didn't want to. But I still can't believe he had the courage to tell me, a 20 year old woman at the time, that having body hair is not normal
My dad and my mom both say things that they don't need to, its like they don't think of what to say before it comes out of their mouth. Like where did "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say it at all" go, does that concept just disappear when they become parents? Most of the time if they say something like, what you mentioned, I normally just say "ok" and walk away and don't do what they want me to do. I'm 16 btw
Yeah, it's sad that men have girl children while remaining so terribly ignorant of normal development for a girl