I had surgical repair to my supraspinatus and subscapularis one year ago. I also had a fully ruptured long head of biceps tendon tenodesis. It has taken one year to recover from this. I'm still doing my exercises 3 times per week as a maintenance program. Its been a long and difficult journey. Thank you for this video. Very encouraging.
I had my surgery on 3-13-24. Nerve block didn't work on me. My surgeon told me I would be out of my sling in 3-4 days. I would start physical therapy in 5-7 days. I spent the first couple nights in the recliner. I was off my pain meds and out of my sling on day 3. I can't lift more then 5lbs per surgeon. I have started home exercises i was given. This is day 7 for me. If i move my shoulder to much it hurts but for the most part everything is going good for me. Other than having someone drive me for the first four days I haven't had help from anyone. I also when back to work the day after surgery babysitting a one year old.
Great straight talk video. I'm day 10 from torn supraspinatus, torn infraspinatus, and ruptured bicep tendon surgery. First few days were no joke and sleeping is atrocious...but every day it feels a little better.
This video really helped me to understand where I am at. I had a partial, high-grade tear of my supraspinatus repaired, distal clavicle excision, debridement of pretty much everything! and subacromial decompression. I am approaching week 12, and while I improve every day (3 steps forward 2 steps back) I started PROM at 2 weeks and it has been painful! At 63 I'm definitely one of the slow healers!
It’s okay! Keep going. I’m currently working with someone a little older that was a bad tear and she’s making progress week by week. You can too :) good luck!
I fell and had 2 full thicknesses tears with retractions and the other 2 tendons were less than 30% left. 7 anchors were put into my shoulder in surgery. This is week 10 and it's still hell. Hopefully things get better. Thanks for the video
Every person has different recovery time after any surgery I'm waiting to see another specialist to see what he suggests I had a bad fall on a path damaged should again , this time its full thickness sub scapular n suprinatus tendon tears, heavily bruised knees n face my hubby is my carer n he wrks nights n sleeps during the day. Tiredness will get to both of us if I go surgery way.
My surgery is next week. No one has shown me anything about how to get around after surgery. I didn’t know that it is possible to be instructed prior to surgery. Makes sense though.
I had mine done 4 days ago. It's been a roller coaster ride. Sleep is not your friend sitting in a recliner. Bathroom breaks are often and never move around by yourself for the first few days. The nerve block is good for only 12 hrs.
Glad it’s helpful. I’m a fan of exercising period hahaha but there’s intensity and at what stage of the recovery that’s important to take into consideration. With my patients, it depends on their prior level of activity and exercise along with the severity and progress of recovery. Ask your trusted therapist based on your recovery phase. Good luck!
I fell 4 weeks ago had full tear SP 2cm and IS 1.3 cm. It has gotten tremendously better over the last 4 weeks. I could not move at all. Now most of strength is back. Just have a lot of weakened in external rotation . I have almost 100% ROM . The thing is after reading all of these stories there a very few good ones. It seems like this procedure really makes this worse. Really thinking if I should just leave well enough alone
It sounds like you are doing great. I normally tell my own patients - if they can’t get better or can’t keep their results for their desired activity level….then consider surgery…otherwise…surgery has consequences too. Good luck with the rest of your recovery 🫶
Well, couple things. 1. If you just did it 4 weeks ago, certainly wait a LOT longer before deciding on surgery. However, my surgeon told me he has never seen a “full tear” fix itself. Partial tears do often fix satisfactory, but not full tears as they have no way of re-attaching to the bone. And they can grow a ton of scar tissue trying to heal,p un-successfully, which can make it worse (what occurred in my case). So while waiting to see is probably a good idea, keep in mind you will likely need surgery for it. 2. Regarding all the “horror stories online”. I thought the same thing, wow, nothing but BAD news online about rotator cuff surgery, re-tears, pain….. So I questioned my doc at length in pre-surgery meetings about this. His response was “I do 100’s of these every year, I don’t even recall the last time I had a re-tear. They do occur, but not nearly as much as you will read about online.” The PA that has seen me for follow-ups, has repeated the same when I told her I’m paranoid about re-tearing it…”, and lastly my Phys Therapist repeated the same message. So I’m pretty sure this is a case of the problem group being the loudest. Nobody comes online shouting about how great their surgery went…, they come online to complain. So if there are 100 people complaining, there are a 100,000 that had no issues. Thats my take anyway. They think most of the retears are people that DID NOT FOLLOW THE RECOVERY INSTRUCTIONS. Do not be in a hurry, and for 3 months minimum, do NOT put any strain on that arm/shoulder.
Maybe you got the surgery? I have same story as you. My doctor told me that not having the surgery would mean arthritis down the road. Also, having the surgery past the first 4 months of the injury, could mean more potential difficulties. I had the surgery 4 weeks ago. Because of incompetence of office staff and getting referrals for physical therapy, I haven't had it yet. Also, right before my surgery, I met a woman who was 2 weeks post op. She hurt her shoulder in 2010 and decided she felt fine and opted not to have surgery. Fast forward to 2024 & her arm totally froze. So just some thoughts.
I’m sorry to hear that. I’m working with a new patient who came from another clinic after failed conservative treatment and now had surgery. Hopefully I can put out a new video about that soon.
I had surgery 6 weeks ago. Doing therapy but starting to feel slight pain in other shoulder. I was doing constant lifting. Starting to exercise both shoulders.
I had therapy before having surgery & have kept it up on my own (surgery is 8-14) Do you think that helps with the after effects of surgery? Would appreciate your thoughts small full thickness tear & split tear of intra-articulated long head of bicep tendon thank you
It’s really important for therapy after a surgery no matter how much therapy you had before. A great therapist can help spot areas you can’t spot and help progress you. You don’t always need a ton…but that’s up to you and your therapist depending on your goals. Most people limit themselves to only achieving a fraction of the recovery they are capable of getting. Hope that helps.
@@HandsOnTherapyServicesIncMiami I just noticed I messed up with my surgery date (didn’t happen yet) is Oct 14! I was going to therapy & I have just continued doing the same exercises every other day until surgery. I was wondering if this will help in my recovery Sorry for the mess up
@@HandsOnTherapyServicesIncMiami Yes therapy after for sure! This has dragged on for 9 months already I’m so ready for surgery I’m an active 73 yr old I miss my xercise classes so much thank you
Do not do passive, or ANY other movements form the 1st 6 weeks. One of the best shoulder surgery surgeons in the counrty, at Stony Brook Univ. Hosp now says there is no need for it, and it does more damage than good. 6 weeks of no movement is the best for healing the tears and has no bearing on getting “locked shoulder”. They used to think that was the case, but now they know you will not get lock shoulder in 6 weeks. Re-tears are usually caused by moving to early, and not letting it heal fully.
I’m now at 12 weeks from surgery, just finished my first 6 weeks of PT, I now have about 90% range of motion, did nothing but passive motion PT from the therapist, and passive range of motion type PT exercises (no weights except for a super light rubber band for slight resistance, and I’m talking ~1 lb of resistance. Shoulder and arm feeling GREAT now, feel like I could bench 300 or do lats with 250! The hardest part now is not using it even though it feels like I could. I’ve been wearing a hair “scrunchie” (band woman wear in their hair for pony tail…) around my left (left shoulder surgery) hand as a reminder to myself. Otherwise you just tend to grab things naturally…
@Machria23 a doctor who makes such statements without qualifications, meaning empiracle data to back up the claim, is suggesting that every other physician who starts patients earlier than 6 weeks is wrong. I would find it hard to believe that Dr. W's approach can or should be applied to EVERY rotator cuff repair case. I would have said: show me your research and publications to support your statements. That's pretty much how science works...it's rarely one size fits all. I'm 68 and I'm not gonna heal like a 30 year old, all other factors being equal.
You have given me new hope that my recovery from biceps tenodesis and full thickness supraspinatus tear is still on track. I am 4 months post op and still quite stiff and sore. I was thinking I might need a steroid shot… I don’t think so now after watching and understanding that I just need more time. Thankyou! Ps I also had CMC arthroplasty on same side 5 months before the shoulder surgery. My thumb is still sore and I am thinking that the shoulder surgery impeded my process on my thumb rehab.
Sure if done incorrectly…most people do it wrong that’s why going to the right place makes such big difference. Also the quality of the tendon makes a difference too, not just therapy. But hopefully everything is well with your recovery.
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I had surgical repair to my supraspinatus and subscapularis one year ago. I also had a fully ruptured long head of biceps tendon tenodesis. It has taken one year to recover from this. I'm still doing my exercises 3 times per week as a maintenance program. Its been a long and difficult journey. Thank you for this video. Very encouraging.
You got this! Even if it’s been a while, you can still get results. Sometimes it requires revisiting therapy.
I had my surgery on 3-13-24. Nerve block didn't work on me. My surgeon told me I would be out of my sling in 3-4 days. I would start physical therapy in 5-7 days. I spent the first couple nights in the recliner. I was off my pain meds and out of my sling on day 3. I can't lift more then 5lbs per surgeon. I have started home exercises i was given. This is day 7 for me. If i move my shoulder to much it hurts but for the most part everything is going good for me. Other than having someone drive me for the first four days I haven't had help from anyone. I also when back to work the day after surgery babysitting a one year old.
Good luck in your recovery and get all your motion back.
How is that possible with a rotator cuff surgery?? 3-4 days!!
What surgery exactly?
This not even possible for rotator cuff surgery!
Yes, most rotator cuff repairs require being in the sling for at least six weeks!
Great straight talk video. I'm day 10 from torn supraspinatus, torn infraspinatus, and ruptured bicep tendon surgery. First few days were no joke and sleeping is atrocious...but every day it feels a little better.
Oh no. Good luck with your recovery. Thanks for watching!
This video really helped me to understand where I am at. I had a partial, high-grade tear of my supraspinatus repaired, distal clavicle excision, debridement of pretty much everything! and subacromial decompression. I am approaching week 12, and while I improve every day (3 steps forward 2 steps back) I started PROM at 2 weeks and it has been painful! At 63 I'm definitely one of the slow healers!
It’s okay! Keep going. I’m currently working with someone a little older that was a bad tear and she’s making progress week by week. You can too :) good luck!
This video was reassuring, I'm going to have surgery, and the videos I've been watching are very helpful. Thank you.
So glad you found it helpful.! Good luck!
Geez…I sure wish you were my therapist after my surgery…you really know your stuff!!!!! I hope I get someone as knowledgeable……
Aww you’re too sweet. I’m sure you will find someone. If not, keep looking. That’s how most of my patients find my clinic.
@@HandsOnTherapyServicesIncMiami I will, ty 🥰👵🏻
I fell and had 2 full thicknesses tears with retractions and the other 2 tendons were less than 30% left. 7 anchors were put into my shoulder in surgery. This is week 10 and it's still hell. Hopefully things get better. Thanks for the video
Sorry to hear about that. Sounds like a terrible fall. I hope you recover fast!
Every person has different recovery time after any surgery I'm waiting to see another specialist to see what he suggests I had a bad fall on a path damaged should again , this time its full thickness sub scapular n suprinatus tendon tears, heavily bruised knees n face my hubby is my carer n he wrks nights n sleeps during the day. Tiredness will get to both of us if I go surgery way.
It's Brutal.
For real…
My surgery is next week. No one has shown me anything about how to get around after surgery. I didn’t know that it is possible to be instructed prior to surgery. Makes sense though.
I had mine done 4 days ago. It's been a roller coaster ride. Sleep is not your friend sitting in a recliner. Bathroom breaks are often and never move around by yourself for the first few days. The nerve block is good for only 12 hrs.
@@charmekiawhite3633I had mine done 3 days ago. Quite an experience
Sleep is a drama
I hope you have a speedy recovery. 🫶
Hi! So helpful. What is your opinion of exercising the non-operative arm during the recovery of the surgical arm? How to care for it? Thank you!
Glad it’s helpful. I’m a fan of exercising period hahaha but there’s intensity and at what stage of the recovery that’s important to take into consideration. With my patients, it depends on their prior level of activity and exercise along with the severity and progress of recovery. Ask your trusted therapist based on your recovery phase. Good luck!
Hi which is better, the anchor or the screw?
🤷🏻♀️ I’ve seen both work great. It’s the quality of the tendon and so many other factors.
Ok, thank you. I have a full thickness tear on my right shoulder. I'm supposed to meet with my doctor tomorrow to discuss surgery. I'm scared as hell.
I fell 4 weeks ago had full tear SP 2cm and IS 1.3 cm. It has gotten tremendously better over the last 4 weeks. I could not move at all. Now most of strength is back. Just have a lot of weakened in external rotation . I have almost 100% ROM . The thing is after reading all of these stories there a very few good ones. It seems like this procedure really makes this worse. Really thinking if I should just leave well enough alone
It sounds like you are doing great. I normally tell my own patients - if they can’t get better or can’t keep their results for their desired activity level….then consider surgery…otherwise…surgery has consequences too. Good luck with the rest of your recovery 🫶
Well, couple things.
1. If you just did it 4 weeks ago, certainly wait a LOT longer before deciding on surgery. However, my surgeon told me he has never seen a “full tear” fix itself. Partial tears do often fix satisfactory, but not full tears as they have no way of re-attaching to the bone. And they can grow a ton of scar tissue trying to heal,p un-successfully, which can make it worse (what occurred in my case). So while waiting to see is probably a good idea, keep in mind you will likely need surgery for it.
2. Regarding all the “horror stories online”. I thought the same thing, wow, nothing but BAD news online about rotator cuff surgery, re-tears, pain….. So I questioned my doc at length in pre-surgery meetings about this. His response was “I do 100’s of these every year, I don’t even recall the last time I had a re-tear. They do occur, but not nearly as much as you will read about online.” The PA that has seen me for follow-ups, has repeated the same when I told her I’m paranoid about re-tearing it…”, and lastly my Phys Therapist repeated the same message. So I’m pretty sure this is a case of the problem group being the loudest. Nobody comes online shouting about how great their surgery went…, they come online to complain. So if there are 100 people complaining, there are a 100,000 that had no issues. Thats my take anyway. They think most of the retears are people that DID NOT FOLLOW THE RECOVERY INSTRUCTIONS. Do not be in a hurry, and for 3 months minimum, do NOT put any strain on that arm/shoulder.
Maybe you got the surgery? I have same story as you. My doctor told me that not having the surgery would mean arthritis down the road. Also, having the surgery past the first 4 months of the injury, could mean more potential difficulties. I had the surgery 4 weeks ago. Because of incompetence of office staff and getting referrals for physical therapy, I haven't had it yet. Also, right before my surgery, I met a woman who was 2 weeks post op. She hurt her shoulder in 2010 and decided she felt fine and opted not to have surgery. Fast forward to 2024 & her arm totally froze. So just some thoughts.
It’s been 3 months and it’s still so painful 😣
I’m sorry to hear that. I’m working with a new patient who came from another clinic after failed conservative treatment and now had surgery. Hopefully I can put out a new video about that soon.
I had surgery 6 weeks ago. Doing therapy but starting to feel slight pain in other shoulder. I was doing constant lifting. Starting to exercise both shoulders.
Good luck with your recovery🙏
I had therapy before having surgery & have kept it up on my own (surgery is 8-14) Do you think that helps with the after effects of surgery? Would appreciate your thoughts small full thickness tear & split tear of intra-articulated long head of bicep tendon thank you
It’s really important for therapy after a surgery no matter how much therapy you had before. A great therapist can help spot areas you can’t spot and help progress you. You don’t always need a ton…but that’s up to you and your therapist depending on your goals. Most people limit themselves to only achieving a fraction of the recovery they are capable of getting. Hope that helps.
@@HandsOnTherapyServicesIncMiami I just noticed I messed up with my surgery date (didn’t happen yet)
is Oct 14! I was going to therapy & I have just continued doing the same exercises every other day until surgery. I was wondering if this will help in my recovery Sorry for the mess up
@@HandsOnTherapyServicesIncMiami Yes therapy after for sure! This has dragged on for 9 months already I’m so ready for surgery I’m an active 73 yr old I miss my xercise classes so much thank you
Do not do passive, or ANY other movements form the 1st 6 weeks. One of the best shoulder surgery surgeons in the counrty, at Stony Brook Univ. Hosp now says there is no need for it, and it does more damage than good. 6 weeks of no movement is the best for healing the tears and has no bearing on getting “locked shoulder”. They used to think that was the case, but now they know you will not get lock shoulder in 6 weeks. Re-tears are usually caused by moving to early, and not letting it heal fully.
I’m glad that works for you. But that’s not been my professional experience. But we get so many variations based on the injury, surgery, and surgeons.
Who is the doc at Stonybook please? I’d like to read about this philosophy. Just had surgery, so… Thanks!
@@chickboomcrash Dr. Wang (pronounced “Wong”) But you’re not going to find anything online about it… I tried looking for stuff.
I’m now at 12 weeks from surgery, just finished my first 6 weeks of PT, I now have about 90% range of motion, did nothing but passive motion PT from the therapist, and passive range of motion type PT exercises (no weights except for a super light rubber band for slight resistance, and I’m talking ~1 lb of resistance. Shoulder and arm feeling GREAT now, feel like I could bench 300 or do lats with 250! The hardest part now is not using it even though it feels like I could. I’ve been wearing a hair “scrunchie” (band woman wear in their hair for pony tail…) around my left (left shoulder surgery) hand as a reminder to myself. Otherwise you just tend to grab things naturally…
@Machria23 a doctor who makes such statements without qualifications, meaning empiracle data to back up the claim, is suggesting that every other physician who starts patients earlier than 6 weeks is wrong. I would find it hard to believe that Dr. W's approach can or should be applied to EVERY rotator cuff repair case. I would have said: show me your research and publications to support your statements. That's pretty much how science works...it's rarely one size fits all. I'm 68 and I'm not gonna heal like a 30 year old, all other factors being equal.
You have given me new hope that my recovery from biceps tenodesis and full thickness supraspinatus tear is still on track. I am 4 months post op and still quite stiff and sore. I was thinking I might need a steroid shot… I don’t think so now after watching and understanding that I just need more time. Thankyou! Ps I also had CMC arthroplasty on same side 5 months before the shoulder surgery. My thumb is still sore and I am thinking that the shoulder surgery impeded my process on my thumb rehab.
Keep working on getting progress. Yes the thumb can be affected by issues of the shoulder. Good luck!
I had rotator tear repair and bicep tendon repair. its. been brutal.
I'm on day 6 and the pain is a 10
Pendulum can tear stitches during first weeks! according to my surgeon.
Sure if done incorrectly…most people do it wrong that’s why going to the right place makes such big difference. Also the quality of the tendon makes a difference too, not just therapy. But hopefully everything is well with your recovery.