Wooooo… My Man!! … it literally feels like you are reading my mind. I want to explore a new color deck and you put out a video the next day! 🤯 So Awesome!! 🙏🏻
Vigilance just has a crazy selection of cards in this set, it sorta feels the meta is pivoting to Blue where it can manage it. Thanks for the vid, man, and congrats on the run on May 4th, it's was a really fun watch to see you piloting Chirrut, I got a lot of value watching your lines and you calling your plays.
Hey wooooo! Thx for your deck tech video on Blue Han, really thought i was the only one tinkering around with the blue yellow aspects. Are there any updates on this deck? cheers mate
No problem! I don't currently have any plans to do an update for Blue Han. My attention at this time has moved to playtesting set 2. But lot's of interesting decks to come!
Been testing a lot of the aggro Han Blue - with the force cards and cunning (don't have vigilance). But I struggle against Sabine and aggro. Tried Syndicate Lackeys and Greedo - will try it again along with Gamorrean Guards. That said, I like C-3P0 and R2-D2 for the card draw with Han or even for information regarding when to ramp / use Han leader ability.
I still to believe in Han blue, even if set 2 don’t bring to much new stuff to this archetype. May be Qi’RA and tech-DJ can bring some fresh air? Could we expect an update on your part in the coming weeks or this deck archetype is dead? Thanks for your answer!
I do think the Tech/DJ combo could make it's way in, but I don't believe the overall deck got that much help this set. I may revisit it in the future, but it likely won't be in the coming weeks. I think it could certainly be a serviceable build, even if it's not top tier.
Very cool deck! I’ve been playing around with a Han deck that tries to abuse you’re my only hope and u-wing reinforcements and this deck gives me some ideas. Might try this skew instead of green. Did you ever think about putting you’re my only hope in this deck? It works very well with Ezra One thing about mill. Double loss is almost always worse than a single loss. You have to remember that opponents results matter for tie breakers so if you let them win you get better tie breakers.
I've been running a version of han blue with R2/3P0/Ezra to manipulate you're my only hope, and after playing it the last two weeks I feel like it's a little bit too luck based, even with the manipulation those cards bring you. Don't get be wrong, I do have a lot of fun with the strategy but I think to be able to keep up with aggro or contend against something like Vader blue you need me more consistency
Thanks! I do think it's solid. On the topic of double loss: having someone get a win is generally worse for you than losing a small edge in tie breakers.
In my experience aggro is still favored vs the Vigilance Control decks like Vader Blue. Edit: I thought you were referring to the Blue Vader and Green Blue control decks that play Vigilance for 6. I can definitely see Mono Blue having a good match up vs aggro.
@@iamwooooo not anymore, we had a 32 players tournament in Paris with half of the deck aggro and a double blue Iden destroyed every Sabine, 6/6 Childsen and 4 cost Vigilance is awfull against aggro
@@iamwooooo Vader Blue or Iden Red aren't the most optimal Vigilance control decks. I won the Richmond 4k yesterday with Vigilance Control, beating 6 Sabines, 2 Leia's, and 2 Boba's. Turns out... deck is just much better without Red.
Great casual deck, and I can see it doing well in some tournaments, but I struggle to see this going into top 16 at super big tournaments and doing well there. Mostly the Boba match up and you will see a very large percentage of those decks still there. Luke Green is going to be a mega tough match. To beat it you will need to bring in a lot of cards into main deck that will make it challenging elsewhere. Patrol Craft, Entrench, Vanquish, and a lot of very professional play to know when they do actually have the firespray and when they do not. I do over all appreciate the discussion though I actually want to try to make this.. mostly want to see what lando does with this and getting access to resources you put up earlier in the game.. and then with restock etc.. its some fun cycling.
@@iamwooooo I'd say its impossible if they top deck in the top 60% of possible cards. You might steal 1 out of 4 matches which in a tournament setting just aint happening.
"A double loss is better for you than your opponent getting a win" A. Quite sure that's incorrect. Unless you're at a very small event, 1 more person in the event having 1 more win won't matter. There will be enough other players on that amount of wins anyway. It will also tank your opponent win % which is worse for your own tiebreakers and you have less chance of bubbling in anyway. You want your loss to be to someone who does well in the event. B. Not a good take for the health of the game. I don't recommend spreading that.
I understand what you're saying, but based on what I know, having someone jump you in the standings will affect you more long term than the tiny margin you get in tie-breaker %. I don't necessarily think it's bad to talk about it though. I talk about a lot of things regarding competitive play, and as long as the double loss rule is in effect, I will have to cover situations where that may come up. I by no means am encouraging slow play. This was just a comment regarding the viability of going in to a tournament with a plan regarding the mill out mirrors. Thanks for your comment!
@@iamwooooo in a large tournament, 1 player jumping you doesn't mean much. A better win % is a big deal. And if you both double loss you're still competitng with eachother on % lol. I play a lot of one piece events where 1 or 2 % is the difference in hundreds and hundreds of dollars in prizing.
@@iamwooooo and even for the small event example: just yesterday I bubbled into top 4 at a showdown because my sole loss (r2) ended up winning the event and elevating my %. If we both lost and ended 4-1, someone else still goes 5-0 and my % is worse and maybe I don't hit top 4.
Wooooo… My Man!! … it literally feels like you are reading my mind. I want to explore a new color deck and you put out a video the next day! 🤯 So Awesome!! 🙏🏻
Happy to keep seeing you pop up in the comments! Thanks for the positive vibes!
Just got home! Now I can just relax and watch this video I have been waiting for!!!! Thank you brother! Great job as always!
Thank you! Hope you enjoy it!
Vigilance just has a crazy selection of cards in this set, it sorta feels the meta is pivoting to Blue where it can manage it. Thanks for the vid, man, and congrats on the run on May 4th, it's was a really fun watch to see you piloting Chirrut, I got a lot of value watching your lines and you calling your plays.
Thank you! Vigilance definitely growing in popularity
Oooh where can I watch his games?!
@@Tylerjstratton Roguestategames on Twitch 👍
Another great video! And such a fun deck to play.
Thanks!
I like the measured gambling with Han’s ability in this deck.
For sure!
I know I’m late to the party but excited to try this out in my local meta. Been looking for a hero deck that intrigues me
Currently don’t have the Syndicate Lackeys, don’t know how. But I’m trying two Cunning in place of it tomorrow night at the LGS
Been playing it for over a month. It’s very strong.
I agree!
Aggro still seems really tough, the ramp and play bigger units seems to just get countered by swarm
Hey wooooo! Thx for your deck tech video on Blue Han, really thought i was the only one tinkering around with the blue yellow aspects. Are there any updates on this deck? cheers mate
No problem! I don't currently have any plans to do an update for Blue Han. My attention at this time has moved to playtesting set 2. But lot's of interesting decks to come!
I had fun with blue han similar to this..but other than luke, green han has way more going for it.
I think blue has more than just Luke!
Been testing a lot of the aggro Han Blue - with the force cards and cunning (don't have vigilance). But I struggle against Sabine and aggro. Tried Syndicate Lackeys and Greedo - will try it again along with Gamorrean Guards. That said, I like C-3P0 and R2-D2 for the card draw with Han or even for information regarding when to ramp / use Han leader ability.
I think landing an early restore guy is often very important too.
@@iamwooooo Yes, I usually go for Ezra or Yoda. Fun to throw a Jedi Lightsaber on them as well against aggro. Same Kanan turn 2.
We had a player make top 8 in our 51 player 2 Case event yesterday with Security Complex Han
Nice!
I still to believe in Han blue, even if set 2 don’t bring to much new stuff to this archetype. May be Qi’RA and tech-DJ can bring some fresh air? Could we expect an update on your part in the coming weeks or this deck archetype is dead? Thanks for your answer!
I do think the Tech/DJ combo could make it's way in, but I don't believe the overall deck got that much help this set. I may revisit it in the future, but it likely won't be in the coming weeks. I think it could certainly be a serviceable build, even if it's not top tier.
Very cool deck! I’ve been playing around with a Han deck that tries to abuse you’re my only hope and u-wing reinforcements and this deck gives me some ideas. Might try this skew instead of green.
Did you ever think about putting you’re my only hope in this deck? It works very well with Ezra
One thing about mill. Double loss is almost always worse than a single loss. You have to remember that opponents results matter for tie breakers so if you let them win you get better tie breakers.
I've been running a version of han blue with R2/3P0/Ezra to manipulate you're my only hope, and after playing it the last two weeks I feel like it's a little bit too luck based, even with the manipulation those cards bring you. Don't get be wrong, I do have a lot of fun with the strategy but I think to be able to keep up with aggro or contend against something like Vader blue you need me more consistency
Thanks! I do think it's solid.
On the topic of double loss: having someone get a win is generally worse for you than losing a small edge in tie breakers.
@@Vicic_ does sound fun!
Nice, reckon this would still be worth playing without Vigilance?
I don't think vigilance is necessarily core, just a good card.
Nice video! Aggro doesn't beat Vigilance Control anymore though. It has evolved!
In my experience aggro is still favored vs the Vigilance Control decks like Vader Blue. Edit: I thought you were referring to the Blue Vader and Green Blue control decks that play Vigilance for 6. I can definitely see Mono Blue having a good match up vs aggro.
@@iamwooooo yeah totally agree. I haven’t lost to vigilance control with an aggro deck yet
@@iamwooooo not anymore, we had a 32 players tournament in Paris with half of the deck aggro and a double blue Iden destroyed every Sabine, 6/6 Childsen and 4 cost Vigilance is awfull against aggro
@@iamwooooo Vader Blue or Iden Red aren't the most optimal Vigilance control decks. I won the Richmond 4k yesterday with Vigilance Control, beating 6 Sabines, 2 Leia's, and 2 Boba's. Turns out... deck is just much better without Red.
@@TheBothanNetworkdo you have a list with what you won with?
Bamboozle instead of confiscate ?
Confiscate is for removing entrenched off your own units, especially the leader. Bamboozle doesn't really accomplish that goal.
Have you considered a yellow chirrut where you just pay the 3 for force throw?
I prefer the Red version for Chirrut, the 1 cost throw is fantastic! What do you like about yellow?
@@iamwooooo ezra and spark basically
@@iamwooooo I think throw for 3 is still great with a force unit, but losing K2 would be bad.
Great casual deck, and I can see it doing well in some tournaments, but I struggle to see this going into top 16 at super big tournaments and doing well there. Mostly the Boba match up and you will see a very large percentage of those decks still there.
Luke Green is going to be a mega tough match.
To beat it you will need to bring in a lot of cards into main deck that will make it challenging elsewhere. Patrol Craft, Entrench, Vanquish, and a lot of very professional play to know when they do actually have the firespray and when they do not.
I do over all appreciate the discussion though I actually want to try to make this.. mostly want to see what lando does with this and getting access to resources you put up earlier in the game.. and then with restock etc.. its some fun cycling.
I think it has potential in to a lot of decks. Boba can definitely be tough sometimes for any Han.
@@iamwooooo I'd say its impossible if they top deck in the top 60% of possible cards. You might steal 1 out of 4 matches which in a tournament setting just aint happening.
"A double loss is better for you than your opponent getting a win"
A. Quite sure that's incorrect. Unless you're at a very small event, 1 more person in the event having 1 more win won't matter. There will be enough other players on that amount of wins anyway. It will also tank your opponent win % which is worse for your own tiebreakers and you have less chance of bubbling in anyway. You want your loss to be to someone who does well in the event.
B. Not a good take for the health of the game. I don't recommend spreading that.
I understand what you're saying, but based on what I know, having someone jump you in the standings will affect you more long term than the tiny margin you get in tie-breaker %. I don't necessarily think it's bad to talk about it though. I talk about a lot of things regarding competitive play, and as long as the double loss rule is in effect, I will have to cover situations where that may come up. I by no means am encouraging slow play. This was just a comment regarding the viability of going in to a tournament with a plan regarding the mill out mirrors. Thanks for your comment!
@@iamwooooo in a large tournament, 1 player jumping you doesn't mean much. A better win % is a big deal. And if you both double loss you're still competitng with eachother on % lol. I play a lot of one piece events where 1 or 2 % is the difference in hundreds and hundreds of dollars in prizing.
@@iamwooooo and even for the small event example: just yesterday I bubbled into top 4 at a showdown because my sole loss (r2) ended up winning the event and elevating my %. If we both lost and ended 4-1, someone else still goes 5-0 and my % is worse and maybe I don't hit top 4.