Band Maid MANNERS live Musician Analyses, reaction & lesson
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- Guitar tutor & professional musician reacts to band-maid manners. This is my first time hearing Manners from the black hole double header video live performance. Aside from a more standard reacts format, we also analyse learn about the various components that make song. Including a guitar lesson on the chorus chord progression, and that cool chromatic riff, with some bass for good measure! In-depth reaction of the this incredible all girl rock band
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Hopefully this analysis is accessible, if I ever go off on a music theory laden tangent, just hit me up in the comments and I'll try to explain what I'm rambling on about!
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While this is my first time hearing the song and reacting to it, I will paused frequently to analyse and explain some of the cool stuff going on, review it and add other commentary.
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0:00- Intro
0:33- Manners Live
14:01- Bass Using 16th Notes On Final Chorus
14:45- Licks, Ideas & Concepts: Accenting The Riff
17:11- Chorus: Mixolydian Chord Progression, Mixing Major & Minor
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Pro musician and guitar tutor reacts to the amazing bandmaid; Kanami Tono lessons, music theory from guitarist and bass player & teacher. While this is my first time hearing band maid reaction, I also analyze the song's concepts and techniques. Teaching some of the compositional tricks alongside how a guitarist reacts to this all female Japanese rock band!
This is great in two ways: Jack reviewing Manners AND knowing Black Hole is not far behind!
Should be the following week!
Nicely put Mr Lu
That's part of the Backing Tracks. Kanami will put in whatever they can't reproduce LIVE in them, including synths, effects and vocals. They have played without in when the computer gets lost with the luggage, but their usually more worried about the sneakers they have bought along the way.
I love the idea that when the airlines mess up they're just like; meh, just skip it for this gig. Brilliant.
@@JbfMusicGuitar apparently there is a USB drive of Doom for such occasions. I think the gorilla has charge of it. She does have a Roland trigger that she uses for certain loops etc. She did a promotional video for them.
⚠️🚨💥 !!!WARNING!!! 💥🚨⚠️
While this is my first time hearing the song and reacting to it, *I will paused frequently* to analyse and explain some of the cool stuff going on, review it and add other informational commentary.
♫ Timestamps ♫
0:00- Intro
0:33- Manners Live
14:01- Bass Using 16th Notes On Final Chorus
14:45- Licks, Ideas & Concepts: Accenting The Riff
17:11- Chorus: Mixolydian Chord Progression, Mixing Major & Minor
A great breakdown and analysis (as usual). While I've listened to the song a number (a great number) of times, I hear more from it after watching your video. Thanks for helping a non-musician get more out of the music and even learn a few things along the way. :)
Awesome, make me really happy to hear stuff like that, many thanks mate!
YES!! Your gonna nail it JBF. A great song to being with. I'm enamored with the added intro for this live. Band-Maid is so good at adding and extending their original songs. Ah.Ah.Ah.Ah.Ah.Ah.Ah. 😮
Cheers! Hopefully it'll live up to your expectations 🤘
Thank you very much Jeff! It is amazing how many things we can learn from these in-depth analyzes. It's like discovering the song again. The Mixolydian Mode has been a new concept for me. Great job as always, teacher!! 🤘
Very glad it helped! I'm sure you'll hear Mixolydian everywhere for the next few weeks 🤘
I think Miku’s bend “solo” was intended as a joke about the fact that she didn’t know how to play at the beginning of the band’s history, which would make sense as the song is a sort of autobiography of the band.
If you want to see her doing some lead work, look at “Wonderland” official live. At a certain point you can see that Kanami is just playing a nice riff on the lower strings while Miku plays a lead melody on the higher strings.
Wonderland in general has some really excellent lead work from Kanami throughout, as well as some very jazzy bass and drum work.
Yeah, it's great to see relatively new players gain a bit more confidence. Look forward to checking out that live video at some point 🤘
'Black Hole' was a Kanami challenge (so the apocryphal legend goes) to Akane. She asked Akane what her BPM limit was and, after Akane said 200, Kanami wrote this 220 BPM beauty. Akane probably replied "Hold my beer..." judging by her performance live!
Should have that sing up next week, but yeah needless to say the warnings/comments were right about it!
Akane did say "Hold my beer", so i did, & it tasted delicious. Then i just managed to outrun her.🥵
On an interview Akane says she answered "around 170, 180" and Kanami goes "yeah, so, I wrote this one..." and she was afraid her legs would fly off. 😂
Hold my bananas...
I believe it was actually in response to a question they posed to DragonForce.
Really admire Miku. She pulled the band together, is learning guitar in leaps and bounds, and sings in harmony.
She pretty much wills the band into existence.
Good point, it's difficult to pull that kind of thing together, credit where it's due!
So excited for Black Hole now :)
Yep, not gonna lie not my best analysis, but thoroughly enjoyed the experience!
@@JbfMusicGuitar Manners is a great song, but on the simple side of things. Black Hole, you may need to make multiple videos. :)
IIRC Kanami wrote Manners after studying several Grammy award winners writing styles. So it's not surprising it sounds very familiar, very much a "Roots" track. The lyrics are like a mission statement of where the band is aiming to go.MISA gives a funky groove in places. (Btw you seen to have muted the end of the fade out, which has a Sister Sledge feel.)
Ahh, thanks for the insight, that's really cool to know1 I really do need to explore their song writing process more. Yeah, that part got blocked, so just had to mute it sadly, really nice outro!
This song is full of easter eggs, I think the horns are one because both the drummer and bass player used to play horns in school. And they are way louder here, on the album version is merely a suggestion.
Kobato also plays leads on other songs. One you can see on YT is Wonderland but there's also RINNE and Glory but those you gotta be paying extra attention. The "1, 2, 3, 4" is probably her as well on the studio (Saiki said she is embarrassed to do ad-libs) but not live. The bass on this song sounds like an idling truck, it's so awesome!
Also, during the guitar solo there's a bass solo going on too. 😂 This band is something else!
Great breakdown, Jack! You never disappoint!
Many thanks mate! I didn't even catch that bass solo, will need to listen out for it next time!
Oh heck yes! Love me some more Band-Maid! The live version of "Manners" is killer. Akane/MISA throw down hard in that one.
Totally! Been a wee while since I did one of their tunes, enjoying getting back to exploring their back catalogue!
@@JbfMusicGuitar "back catalogue" from their most recent album, this year. 😊 Time flies.
@@PaulEngineer I can't blame the Covid time warp on my lack of Band Maid trivia, lol!
@@JbfMusicGuitar Well you could, but it wouldn't help you.😆
Congrats on the shout out Rabbi.👍
The great thing about this performance is how the song builds gradually in complexity and intensity from beginning to end.
Good point Greg!
There is only one band who not only have impeccable Manners but are also impeccable musicians & are a lesson to us all, & that's BAND-MAID :)
So many lesson and ideas squeezed in to their songs!
@@JbfMusicGuitar So many lessons & ideas squeezed into your breakdown of their songs. They're excellent, Jbf.👍
It's like the old adage, give a girl a guitar and she'll use it as a fashion accessory, teach her to play and she'll become a rock star pigeon
@@glenkelley6799 I like that adage. That should be recited in schools at the start of each BAND-MAID music lesson....if they ever put it on the curriculum :)
@@GaryHolloway-810 Don't know about anyone else but I've been in Band Maid school since I first heard Thrill.
Always enjoy the in-depth details you give on your reviews! Great insight! Band Maid said in an interview that "Unseen World" has songs that cover a range from the beginning, "Thrill", to their newer vibe and pace, and you picked up on the connection, cool! Can't wait for "Black Hole"!
Thanks Wayne! Brilliant, good to know I'm not just talking nonsense when these thing pop in to my head, lol.
Ahhh, black hole yes... an experience to say the least!
@@JbfMusicGuitar just like Brian May, Kanami and Miku 5 a big fans of Stephen Hawkins
My god Jack ,,, I mentioned this previously, it is so wonderful to come across a musician who knows the ins and outs of music and can travel through a song and then show us just what’s going on in the song, then to pick up your guitar and run through the song to show how and why it is played a certain way is just amazing,,,so thank you for going through this with us ,,I am so sick of reactors who just sit there bobbing their heads then say ( yeah I really liked that ),, so thanks again Robby Aus 😎🇦🇺🎸🥁🎤👍
Thank you so much Robert! I get a small amount of stick for not doing that, but there's so many cool things going on, I can't shut up about them, lol!
Yesss nice break down again🔥🙌
Awesome, glad you liked this one dude!
@@JbfMusicGuitar I always love your break downs🤘🏻 and I’m excited for your Black Hole breakdown🤘🏻
Damn great breakdown. The end when you were playing the different styles was so awesome!
Awesome, glad it made sense! ... Also great user name 💪
Been too long since your last one Jack.. Really enjoyed this!! looking forward to Black hole... Best wishes from France..
Many thanks Grant! Yeah, agreed. Should have stuff on them out a bit more regularly over the next wee while🎶
@@JbfMusicGuitar Thats great... The song selection is huge, you may be here quite a while... It's all good though.. Great music, and great reactions...
Wonderful.
I always look forward to your breakdowns.
Thoughtful, informative and entertaining!!
Till next time 🤘😀🤘
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it 🔥
That final chorus - the chorus is done twice. The first time the melody is the same as before, but with different short chords underneath. The second time, the chords are from the original chorus, but the melody is changed up. Neat.
Thanks Peter, great way to just give it a final push!
Here we gooo!!
Cheers dude, don't usually bother with these premieres much, but sometimes you just gotta hype it 🤣🤘
7:58 yes, it's a downshifted voice similar to the beginning of 'no god'.
Thought so! So many great little touches hidden in there
I think you'll find Kanami uses Midi-chlorian chord progression...as she's a firkin Jedi Master!!!
Hahaha, I know your joking Phil, but the Star War force theme uses 'Lydian', which isn't too far of the Mixolydian here, lol. The music theory force must be strong in you ✨
@@JbfMusicGuitar No...the force is strong in YOU as the music theory jedi 😁 Can't wait for your trip to the singularity mate!!
Yeah I was picking up on the swagger and sleaze in this song too - not necessarily words you associate with wholesome Japanese maids, but these women own it!
No! Good point, another 'gap' of sorts I suppose!
Nice job.
Thanks! 🙌
Thanks Jeff. Always get a different perspective and how a song is produced and arranged. Black Hole may be a bit more challenging but can't wait for it to learn a bit more. Peace.
Thanks mate! Yep Challenging, is the word for it 😵💫
So me thinking Jbf stood for "Jim Beam Forever" was wrong then. Tch
@@GaryHolloway-810 I'd be disowned be my fellow Scots if I went around saying that! 🤣
@@JbfMusicGuitar HAHA. Well there probably would be quite a few willing to give you a Glasgow kiss as a farewell present.😆
I have been on the planet for 65 yrs and have never met a bad Jack including family members great work my friend!
Cheers Darrell! Glad to keep that trend alive, glad you enjoyed it 🤘
Thanks so much for the awesome shout out, Jack! So unexpected. And, you said it in front of a freezed frame of MISA, the empress of bass, looming large in the background. It doesn't get more perfect than that.
Great job on another excellent tutorial and breakdown. Cool catch on your part of how Kanami's guitar part patterns the prior horns section. Ya' know, I've heard that video 100 times by now, and never picked up on that before. You heard it once, and immediately noticed it.
I've heard other reactors comment about the distorted vocals, but you're the first to demonstrate it for us. That was hilarious. I genuinely laughed out loud hearing you go low and high.
Lastly, that segment starting at 4:05, you felt a vibe of Skid Row or Guns n Roses. Okay, for me, I hear Red Hot Chili Peppers. At 40 seconds into "By The Way" th-cam.com/video/JnfyjwChuNU/w-d-xo.html , they start a 1-word per line rap. Slow that down a bit and Band-Maid is doing the same thing in that part of "Manners".
However, maybe it's just me, but I do hear Guns n Roses at 17:20 during your mixolydian demo.
Glad you liked it mate! I try to do one a month for folk in that Patreon tier- it sometimes get sloppy with badly planned out scheduling on my part though
Fantastic! I must admit when I first got a pitch shifting pedal I spent a good few hours just messing around speaking in to it and giving myself a good chuckle.
Nice catch, yeah similar thing going on! Yeah, totally Paradise City's outro solo is pretty heavy on the old Mixolydian 🎸🎶
Love this song so much.
It's got such a a great swagger to it!
@@JbfMusicGuitar
MISA with that constant groove.
19:27 has a certain shine to it.
Good way of putting it Craig! Oddly enough, the Mixolydian sound is often refereed to as one of the 'brighter' modes 🎶
Nice breakdown
Thank you! Hope you got something interesting out of it 🙌
MISA and Akane had a history in the background band for the J-Pop singer, Becky, before BAND-MAID was formed. They also attended the same music school.
Good to know, thanks for that! 🙌
BTW nice job picking up on the part with the two guitars working together. I wasn't sure what was going on there. Kanami is really good at writing those little interplay pieces. The second verse of Domination is a good example. It seems like the two guitars are playing really simple bits but the timing makes it sound so cool.
Yes! Great example, the interlay really helps out with keeping a tight groove 🎶
Akane uses a Roland TM-1 to tweak the sound of her drums.
Nice- had to google that bit of gear in all honesty, but found a video giving a good oversight of what it does- cheers for that!
And no that wasn't an effect on miku's voice she is the rhythm guitarist songwriter and was the original lead singer
Sorry don, should have been clearer- there's a voice saying 1,2,3,4 just before Miku say the 'yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah' bit.
That's what I'm talking about, I'd put another clip of it in the background (when I'm doing that voice stuff) to try and clear up which part I'm talking about 🤘
@@JbfMusicGuitar it's cool I've noticed it before I always just took as a timing set up I occasionally used them as when I sang and played rhythm guitar but that was years ago so my bad I thought you was asking if it was really her it's very quiet in a few songs hence my hastened defense of her singing I apologize for sounding like I was disagreeing and/or aggressive on the matter I was just trying to point out a lot of her singing is legitimate I'm sorry again
@@mrh.p.reaper4936 Not at all mate! If in doubt ask away, I've been tipped off on so many new things from folk point stuff like that out!
Wonderful analysis, but at the Black Hole, "tie up your pants"!!!
It sure did fry my head, lol!
You mentioned Skid Row. I really get a Skid Row vibe on the beginning of their song glory.
Glad to know I'm not alone in that Dennis, can;t always put my finger on what it is, but there's sometimes that sorts Skid Row swagger going on 🤘
7:30 AM? You sadist! LOL
Haha, sorry dude! Can bump it back to 8 if that's any better, lol? 😂
@@JbfMusicGuitar LOL, it's cool! 😆
I absolutely LOVE this tune, and a huge fan of the music video but....the more I listen to this LIVE version the more I'm liking it. Miku is my little star here. Speaking of MISA and 16th notes, her performance in "Blooming" syncing with Akane's kick is pretty awesome also. This is the first time I heard the "horns" as you called them, great touch. A lot of things in this live version I have a hard time picking up on the MV version, like Miku's "echo" vocal part, never heard it on the MV version but sticks out here. Good stuff as always JBF Thanks!
Glad you liked it Jim, yeah good call on that part in Blooming! 🎶
Appreciate the Skid Row reference, my favourite band in the early nineties and I hear so many musical similarities in their songs, I hear 'My Enemy' from the greatly underrated 'Subhuman Race' in 'Manners', great songs and great bands. Just realised I used a few too many greats there, balls I ain't changing it.
Totally agree Ross, Skid Row have some cracking songs. Never too sure why they didn't/don't get the same recognition GnR 🤘
@@JbfMusicGuitar They came close but as you know greatness doesn't always get the full recognition it deserves, plus the internal conflict between rachel snake and seb didn't help matters 😂, saw them twice live in their heyday, damn awesome and great memories.
16 sad souls are going to hell... Have fun down there! :)
Great analysis again, i am always looking forward to your Band-Maid videos! SO MUCH TOO LEARN! Have a beautiful day... Greetings from Germany
Too much to learn sometimes! Thanks Michael, hope you're having a great day as well bud 🤘
Miku playing on her own signature 🕊🕊
Own signature?!?!? Nice.
@@JbfMusicGuitar Yeah... She switched from Rickenbacker to Zemaitis in 2016. I believe she was approached by the company and asked if she wanted to try some of their models. She did like them and became a spokespigeon for them. To celebrate the 5 year anniversary of the collab, they made a signature named "Flappy Pigeon", which by many is considered a real work of art. Some really nice details! And highly exclusive since it was meant to only be made 50.
Rumours claim that because of the demand there will be made more.
Your remark that Band-Maid is heavily influenced by Skid Row and Guns’n Roses makes sense. These are the favorite bands (with Van Halen and Metallica) of the man that is responsible for Thrill, the song that more or less determined their musical direction. EVH was his all time favorite, maybe something to keep in mind when analyzing their classic rock songs.
Cheers for the insight Dan, will try to keep that in mind!
Thank you for another great reaction ❤️
My pleasure dude!
The lead guitar was toned down in this live music video.
It seemed a bit low in the mix, but I had assumed that was intentional!
Good stuff Jbf!
Appreciate it mate! 🤘
Reminded me of piano lessons studying 12 bar blues. Teacher would play us the lead and we’d have to keep up playing the bass line. And then she’d the change key we’re playing in to force us to think. 😂😂
Hahah, good practice, but pretty brutal!
I never noticed it before, but that little riff at the end of the chorus part reminds me of Shine by Collective Soul. There's just two extra notes instead of saying "yeah" and the last note (or 3rd from last in the case of Manners) doesn't go up by a half step.
Just put that song on for a refresher- totally see where you're getting that! Same sort of mid tempo overall heavy rock groove as well 🤘
Dammit! Overslept and missed the live feed. 😢 I'm convinced that this is Miku's big thumbing of her nose at all of the detractors who said that her vision of the band would never work. Always appreciate your attention to detail no matter what instrument or vocal. 👍
Also, Miku did stretch out a bit in the Shibuya version of Play that you previously reacted to.
7.30 is pretty brutal, I'll make the next one a bit later for you Jeff!
Cheers dude, had totally forgotten about that 🤘
@@JbfMusicGuitar Haha, no need to go out of your way for me! I hear that Kanami has determined that Miku is ready for a real solo. Can't wait for it!
@@jjo154 All I've got to go are TH-cam stats and in all honesty I don't know how accurate those are, happy to shoogle stuff about and see what works!
@@JbfMusicGuitar It's all good, Jack. I can always catch up later like I did with this one. 😉👍
DAMN......... Your mix of the Dorian and Mixolydian at the end sounded damn good.
Haha, cheers mate far to kind!
MISA MISA MISA!
🤘🤘🤘
This is the best version of Manners. It is so thumpy! That bass! In the official live video it is combined with Black Hole, and this one and Black Hole do not match at all. Its a pity that they made so. Anyhow, I really love this version of Manners. The official music movie version of Manners is tamer. Nice that you extracted Manners from the combined version! Good choice.
Glad you approve, cheers!
Wicked Head-bob! 😎
Cheers mate!
I hear a lot react to this along with blackhole so thus often its this live version, but this is one of the songs that, as good as this live is, I feel is a lot better in the MV- like daydreaming, something about the songs quality makes the much clearer and more detailed studio version work a lot better imo.
Cool, I'll need to give that a watch 🤘
Note in Kanami's official score miku is always "first guitar" and she calls herself "second guitar". Which is just so Mincho.
In all fairness that's a hangover from classical music, which got carried on by most notation software, so it's often default as you add more instruments in
Akane was a horn player.
That's cool, more interesting stuff seems to happen in bands where the drummer plays a melodic instrument as well
@@JbfMusicGuitar she scores her part in order to force herself to learn harder challenges also trys it in the drum program and then!! - says she actually sees the score in her minds eye as she plays rather than relying on the crude recall of mortals!!
Often she offers mincho alternative readings and mincho always sets her the completely impossible one.
So in bandmaid style she rehearses until the whole band can play it note perfect then kanami makes them do it faster. Apparently she's a real martinet. I don't think she does the full George Solti "screaming skull" but she doesn't take prisoners in the studio or rehearsal room.
That was one of your more interesting tutorials
Glad you liked it mate! Sometimes tricky to figure out what aspect to break down and explore 🎸🎶
I get big time Alice in Chains vibes in this song.
Nice shout Rob, it's got that blues influenced heavy guitar thing they do so well 🤘
More like a Motown outro.
Yes, good point! My 90s kid head goes straight to boyband, lol 🤣
Please analyze indonesian band : DEWA19
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll add them to my list!
@@JbfMusicGuitar you'll get a lot of viewer if you make a video about indonesian music 😋
The video is slow, was it on purpose?
Not by design!
@@JbfMusicGuitar i meant the Band-Maid video, was a bit slower. You could notice in the voice and instruments
I still don’t understand how you can resist listening to the song straight through at least one time before dissecting it by bar. (Maybe you do that but just don’t tell us.) I think the musical analysis is much more meaningful after you grasp the emotional impact of the song. Are you not interested is that aspect of music?
I have all these thoughts anyway, so it's nice to be able to express them. I tend to listen to the song afterwards. If I listen to it first, there would be no point having it playing in the behind me cause any 'reaction' would just be contrived, you know?
I suppose the thing is for me that the emotion in any song comes from all of these components and I'm more interested in why or how something makes me feel a certain way or conveys an emotion. Rather than just the emotion itself, if that makes sense?