Ok so vampires also came from spellcasters as well. In the werewolf pack, I think it’s from when you’re sim reads one of the new books, it describes how spellcasters wanted to create clones of themselves that were permanent and wouldn’t need to be sustained by magic. However once the spellcasters tried to make them permanent, their clones went savage attacking and sucking the plasma out of the spellcasters who had made them. Kind of some gruesome lore for yah. Sorry if you mentioned this already in you’re vid but I didn’t catch it if you did. Great lore recap by the way 😁
Here's more lore that makes it even JUICIER! If you don't want it spoiled, stop reading hahaha. This is just a couple things I learned yeee okay okay okay: Greg said that they held Vlad under the tunnels to try to use him as leverage to end the wars, but Vlad was too powerful and escaped. That would explain the garlic tunnels, they used it to weaken him...He also said he tore up the old mill and put it in the tunnels so they could never bring the noisy machines back and destroy the town, that would explain the rubble...Lilith Vatore is actually Lily's cousin, and said that she started hanging out with Vlad and he corrupted her...THERE'S SO MUCH THIS ISN'T EVEN EVERYTHING
It makes sense for Spellcasters to be the oldest Occult since the Magical Realm seems so ancient and mysterious, so the Vampires and Werewolves being offshoots of Spellcasters makes sense to me. Plus, it makes more sense why Spellcasters got the same customization options as Vampires with those face scars and eye colors and ear shapes.
I'm not sure if they'll ever be seen in Sims 4 but I've not seen them mentioned much, what if spellcasters came from fairies? There are pixies in university you can get 'power' from.
@@ARK4Z yeah that makes sense. Humans learn magic from fairies, becoming Spellcasters; Spellcasters branch off into different groups, like Moocasters, Mooncasters, and those who feed off Plasma for magical energy, eventually differentiate enough into new species known as Vampires and Werewolves
@@phoenixrising7777 I wouldn’t be surprised. There’s a plant that transforms you into a mermaid so either mermaids came about because of the plant’s natural existence or mermaids were the product of Spellcasters with an interest in the ocean
Okay so let's recap a bit. Vampires were made out of spellcasters when they were making clones that they were sustaining with a bunch of different potions (probably a funny easter egg on how op the potion of plentiful needs is lmao) and other experiments to the point where it started going all wrong. The clones had an insatiable thirst thus turning against spellcasters and explaining why they started to bite and feeding off of their blood. Since spellcasters' blood has magical properties they acquired their darker powers from it and started turning into monsters up until the point were they could reproduce themselves (make new vampires). Vampires then waged war against spellcasters in what was called the "Operation Eternal Flame" which consisted in turning every single spellcaster remaining into a vampire. The rest is all covered in the video after 9:41.
@@CassPass73 It's one of her answers when using "ask about Moonwood Mill"! And apparently also in her family description, but I always forget to read those 😂
Okay, but this makes me want to be able to (like Sulani) repair the magic realm. Just think It'd be so meta. Of course your Sim would have to master both untamed and mischief branches. Or maybe, if we want a true challenge, a Sim needs to have completed the Vampire, Spellcaster, and Wherewolf aspirations to finally bind the realms.
It would be so sick if they had "Unite the Magic Realm" as a storyline and aspiration like they did with Strangerville. I'd love for it to be complex with Vampires and Werewolves, too.
i want to add a few more things that i found^^ 1) celene was actually lou’s ex gf, they both went on a date at night and encountered greg, greg bites lou but celene escaped. times passed and lou finally accepted himself as a werewolf, but celene didn’t, which led to both of them going separate ways. 2) rory was originally from brindleton bay. she was actually bitten by a dog at the vet and not another werewolf, so perhaps sims are also able to transform into werewolf in this way too. rory’s parents couldn’t accept her transformation so they kicked her out, she wandered alone, kristopher then found her and adopted her. he’s hurt by her way of living now but rory still remembers his kindness in the past and respect him as a leader, and she actually desires to be a good leader kristopher always wanted her to be. 3) this is not what i found in the lore but i do believe the vampires deserve more of their own lore, call me biased but we can’t judge a story only from one point of view :’) vlad, lilith and caleb could’ve had it worse than greg in the past, we don’t know things about them as much as we know about the werewolves. it’s best to stay neutral now and don’t immediately paint them as villains. not trying to justify whatever wrongs the vampires committed in the past but please, give them a chance ;-;
@@spaceyofficial.0127 i was referring to vlad lilith and caleb specifically. if the other vampires were the ones who started sh!t and the rest of them were taught to live in the same way for hundreds of years, i’m not going to blame them for that.
I think you'll need to do another video exploring further, Jesse, because just now while playing I got a dialogue from Lily Zhu where she told my sim that her cousin LILITH got lured away to the dark arts long ago 👀 The lore keeps going and I'm SO excited to discover more!
I like that there's so much history packed into this one single game pack that it can easily spawn some fanfics or animatics or whatever just about those townies. Good stuff good stuff we need more of that
I've had a lot of fun playing the pack the last few days, but I do wish that werewolves would have a special social action or relationship with dogs. I feel like it would have also been able to support the lore because of the mooncasters and their familiars.
I know what you mean. I was also disappointed that you couldn't create your own pack. I mean, sure. You can make a group and fill it with wolf companions. But that feels more like a "casual hangout gathering" of a bunch of wolves instead of a "hierchy organization based on who's the strongest".
@@spaceyofficial.0127 considering werewolves were created by spellcasters combining with their wolf familiars, maybe an ancient group of Sulani spellcasters combined with fish familiars and it lead to mermaids?
@Tory T I thought so originally, but it could be interesting to have them tie in to the other occult types. Maybe the island spirits predate spellcasters?
@Tory T oh good point! I don't know too much about sims lore sorry, I only have a couple packs including ROM I think it's cool that packs can have isolated spirits and magic then!
My fave bit of lore in this pack has gotta be the new lore surrounding the vatores they were basically Lily's cousins but when they got turned it ruined their relationship
Ma’am I need a part 2 of you digging into the moonwood mill lore Cause based on the comments there is so much more and I absolutely LOVE it when you deep dives like this
A couple of other pieces I found. Apparently Jacob was in some sort of danger when Kristopher first found him. Also Kristopher admits to still feeling glad to have been able to raise Rory despite the differences the two currently have, which is sweet. Edit: New info, Kristopher mentioned he had an encounter with the vampires when he first met Jacob. So he likely saved Jacob from the vampires. Edit 2: Just got more of the story! Kristopher: "When I found Jacob, he was practically a pup. I'd heard there was a feral werewolf in those woods, and I wanted to help. Turns out, there was also a Vampire there. Thankfully, I got to Jacob before either of them could. When I found the other wolf, he wasn't interested in coming back to Moonwood Mill with me. A pack didn't interest him. Some Werewolves like being the lone wolf."
seeing as spellcasters and wereworlves are linked by mooncasters (who turned into werewolves) it would be fun gameplay to play through being a spellcaster who then transitions to a werewoves after completing their goal as a spellcaster (hope this makes sense)!
you know, i think sims looking like furries is actually a very good thing. furries are known to be wealthy as fuck and very dedicated to their hobby, so we might expect to get really good CC and mods to this pack
Another fun fact, you can find lore on the other members of the back if you ask them! For example Lou and Celine came to the town together and both got bitten, but Lou did not take the cure while Celine did!
Note- We probably are only hearing the wolves' side of the story! In a vampire pack refresh, we could probably hear their side, too, and finally get the full picture. Remember that history is written by the winners and currently, it sounds like nobody had won.
Following up on the fact that a tamed cow plant ate Yina, on the tamed cow plant skull and jawbone are the words ‘I will avenge you’, and the jawbone is said to have Greg’s distinct smell on it!
There’s also some lore for non places households like the bartender and her ex Lou and the mysteries werewolf writer Wolfgang! Love that even if they are placed in the world they got some backstory too!
I think that Myshupotamia wasn’t Moonwood Mill like you said, but actually another society in a different place that the Moocasters got inspiration from for their cowplant taming. If I had to guess, I’d assume that San Myshuno might’ve been the original place where Myshupotamia was before that society fell and a new city was built there with a different name.
my friend showed me a screen shot- she met the elderly werewolf lily- and when i learned shes the vatores cousin it blew my mind how theyre tying the packs together. Also since Lily is an elder it really shines into perspective how long the vatores have been vampires.
Oh my lord I though EA had made a character named Remus for this pack and I turned to my cat, Remus, to tell him the news… then I saw it was Jess’s character and I had to tell him the EVEN BETTER NEWS!!
Fr it’s so fun playing as a werewolf but it’s stressful when the rage takes over your sim lol and same my sims mate is Lou and let’s just say they did not like each other at first lmao
Sheesh, that is indeed a LOT of lore! O.o EA went all out with the background on this pack, huh? Really makes me want a refresh for vampires and spellcasters (and the other occults too, but for lore purposes, those two) so that this can all be tied together properly. Nice work!
Before I watch this video, I got to say Plumbella... I adore these 'Entire History Of' lessons in The Sims Lore & History. I'm so glad you have gained in confidence and you share your passions for The Sims by explaining THE TEA! (Sips) Thank you for being you, and being inspirational to many people who have struggles with Mental, Physical or Social issues... but are still going strong. If enough people (from all over) talk and give insight... are open about these experiences and feelings. Other humans who are struggling feels less alone, and feel supported and are battling with a bad ass team of warriors behind them. 😌 🌸 Thank you again for being Plumbella 🌸
I’m truly obsessed with the lore for this pack. I even made Lily’s + Lilith’s and Caleb’s parents, made them related w Mc Command center and them obvi killed the elders (sorry!) Now Lily is legit the Vatore’s cousin in the family tree. I also created Miss Hell (from the broken mirror description) because she’s the one that turned Caleb according to Lily. Moved her into Forgotten Hollow and made her date Vlad lol. Such a good time!
So basically spellcasters caused the whole mess of vampires and werewolves. They created monsters that started a war and then they created more monsters in defense. Vicious circle.
I just started a save that is a spellcaster, werewolf, vampire, mermaid, and alien polycule that are looking past their shared history for the sake of their love 🥰
I find it hilarious that they gave us plants versus zombies without the zombies, it would be hilarious and terrifying to be chased down the street by a prehistoric cow plant with legs. But that would explain why realm of magic is not a livable area because the only people living there are ghosts and the sages can't live there so I guess that's why they have to return as often as they do. And I consider this a bonus point but remember that bug where every Sim became a spellcaster when the pack came out, that could have been the sages plan to rebuild the realm itself by getting a fresh bunch of idiots to learn magic so they can have enough power to do it.
sims lore is seriously some of my favorite things they do they’re so good at it, i wish they’d implement it MORE through stuff like this and further gameplay that isn’t just a one and done thing (strangerville my beloathed)
Seriously considering re downloading the sims 4 and purchasing this pack just because of the lore. My favorite part of the older sims games was just playing in existing households and giving them makeovers just because they had such good lore.
I really want them to revamp (ha) the vampire pack like they did with the spa day pack, but make it in a similar style to this one. Like update the world and the lore and maybe make npcs and the like
As someone who is autistic, blocks of text with absolutely no visuals are the worst way to immerse me into the game. I really appreciate you for covering the lore, it actually was pretty cool. It's just a shame it had to be understood through walls of text, makes it really inaccessible to a lot of different types of players. I like the memory system and screenshots in the sims 2 to tell us stories, it helped pull everything together. Thann you for this video! All of your hardwork is definitely appreciated! Your editor's too! :D
That makes me wonder, has anyone tried playing a spellcaster in Moonwood Mill yet? I would experiment, but I sadly have to wait a month or so to get the pack :(
What I'm confused about is the name "Myshupotamians". I assumed it was based on ancient Mesopotamia, maybe in the same location as modern San Myshuno. Moonwood Mills doesn't give me big Mesopotamia vibes....
there’s some lore u can get from speaking to greg, he mentions christopher and i was under the impression he’s greg’s son or something?? i could’ve misread but he talks about how christopher looks more and more like his mother
He talks about how he looks like his mother because Greg knew Maria, Kristopher's mom. On the figuring of Maria's familiar it states that she and Greg would often debate about their purpose of being good or bad, and how Greg was jealous of Maria because she could control her fury.
Caleb and Lilith both show up at the Bar from time to time! (But Lilith seems more wary, probably because of Lily) And so do some of the Charms and Morgans. Which makes sense given the connection to spellcasters.
Please join me in 💫manifesting 💫 ROM being the next pack refresh so we can tie in some more lore and make famiars actually *do* something. It would be amazing if each type had a specific strength or connected to certain spells/skills, but also, if there were limitations on that power because....look what happened with the wolf familiars..... 🤞🤞🤞🤞
9:34 my sim was getting along with her pretty well, but I tried asking for werewolf sympathy (thought that’d make sense) and it pissed her right off lol
vlad is celene's number one patron in my game, and i can't get over it 😂 also, i had my sim go there to explore, and him and celene fell madly in love. they have some lycan-bond now and omg.. this pack has really outdone itself.
Love all of this lore, and how the living sims all have preexisting relationships and skills, etc. One question tho: how did Avelina die? I guess I’ll have sniff around Moonwood Mill to find out.
I haven’t found this yet. I thought it might be in Greg’s diary but I’ve reread it heaps of time and haven’t found anything new. I hope it’s there somewhere as I have a feeling it’s going to give a lot of insight into Greg.
bestie your light hair and the striped colourful top with the white background is bringing me back to your 'entire history of' videos from 2, 3 years ago. the videos that summoned me to this channel💖 and can't miss me with that TS reference!
OK but I don't think Kristopher wrongfully took credit for the creation of the Moonwood Collective. Maria may have founded the basic ideals of the moonwood collective and had a vision for what moonwood mill should be like but the actual conception of a pack/community based on these ideals is Kristopher's doing.
Thanks for this entire history of video babe. I love the energy, enthusiasm and dedication you put in making these videos. The lore in this pack is fantastic and I'm just soaking it all up until I can buy the pack.
That's how the magic realm broke?! :O Amazing! I would love a part 2 to this once you've had more time to explore and talk to Greg. I've heard rumors that there is some Vatore and Vlad lore to be found underground but I haven't found anything yet.
YES! I was waiting for this video ever since I got the pack and opened a book at the library. I immediately said to myself "where is plumbella when I need her?! They spilled an ocean of tea" and also when I saw even the collectibles have lore? Oh my. I'm 2 seconds in and you get an instant like just cause
I clicked this so fast! I was getting confused about some of the characters names and who was who and what was a mooncaster so I VERY MUCH appreciate this!
you know how EA brought on James to build the houses..? they should bring you on to build the lore PLEASE (how can I tag them)
Yes! They need to hire her to do this!!
YES
@@atwarontv anyone know cheats for dormant abilities on werewolf?
@@tmfthetheft9817 frl just had a dormant werewolf toddler 😭 completely ruined the storyline I had planned
Omg PLEASEE
“It’s not very vegan, but it is fucking crafty” this is my new motto.
As a vegan I will use the shit outta that 😂😂
Honestly want this on a shirt.
Be great if you could have a spell that animates cow plants so they can move
Ok so vampires also came from spellcasters as well. In the werewolf pack, I think it’s from when you’re sim reads one of the new books, it describes how spellcasters wanted to create clones of themselves that were permanent and wouldn’t need to be sustained by magic. However once the spellcasters tried to make them permanent, their clones went savage attacking and sucking the plasma out of the spellcasters who had made them. Kind of some gruesome lore for yah. Sorry if you mentioned this already in you’re vid but I didn’t catch it if you did. Great lore recap by the way 😁
Crazy they really tied it all together 😍
basically all the occults wouldn't exist if the spellcasters had someone to tell them that with great powers come great responsibilities
And now imagine that they released them all as one complete pack ☠️
@@freethegays we used to live like that... the glorious sims 3
@@accio_firewhiskey8256 anyone know cheats for dormant abilities on werewolf?
Here's more lore that makes it even JUICIER! If you don't want it spoiled, stop reading hahaha. This is just a couple things I learned yeee okay okay okay: Greg said that they held Vlad under the tunnels to try to use him as leverage to end the wars, but Vlad was too powerful and escaped. That would explain the garlic tunnels, they used it to weaken him...He also said he tore up the old mill and put it in the tunnels so they could never bring the noisy machines back and destroy the town, that would explain the rubble...Lilith Vatore is actually Lily's cousin, and said that she started hanging out with Vlad and he corrupted her...THERE'S SO MUCH THIS ISN'T EVEN EVERYTHING
Yes!! Lily being the Vatores' cousin is so tragic yet so juicy!
@@BRey-xx4sm anyone know cheats for dormant abilities on werewolf?
What about Caleb?
@@tmfthetheft9817 bro did you google it
I wonder if vampire react to the galick
It makes sense for Spellcasters to be the oldest Occult since the Magical Realm seems so ancient and mysterious, so the Vampires and Werewolves being offshoots of Spellcasters makes sense to me. Plus, it makes more sense why Spellcasters got the same customization options as Vampires with those face scars and eye colors and ear shapes.
Omg you are right 😯
I'm not sure if they'll ever be seen in Sims 4 but I've not seen them mentioned much, what if spellcasters came from fairies? There are pixies in university you can get 'power' from.
@@ARK4Z yeah that makes sense. Humans learn magic from fairies, becoming Spellcasters; Spellcasters branch off into different groups, like Moocasters, Mooncasters, and those who feed off Plasma for magical energy, eventually differentiate enough into new species known as Vampires and Werewolves
Spellcasters can use mermaid teeth. Does that mean mermaids are an offshoot of spellcasters too?
@@phoenixrising7777 I wouldn’t be surprised. There’s a plant that transforms you into a mermaid so either mermaids came about because of the plant’s natural existence or mermaids were the product of Spellcasters with an interest in the ocean
Okay so let's recap a bit. Vampires were made out of spellcasters when they were making clones that they were sustaining with a bunch of different potions (probably a funny easter egg on how op the potion of plentiful needs is lmao) and other experiments to the point where it started going all wrong.
The clones had an insatiable thirst thus turning against spellcasters and explaining why they started to bite and feeding off of their blood. Since spellcasters' blood has magical properties they acquired their darker powers from it and started turning into monsters up until the point were they could reproduce themselves (make new vampires). Vampires then waged war against spellcasters in what was called the "Operation Eternal Flame" which consisted in turning every single spellcaster remaining into a vampire. The rest is all covered in the video after 9:41.
Thank you ❤️
oh god that’s dark
@@plasmoasis I LOVE IT
Thank you because I lost the thread somewhere in there :)
Not sure if I'm the only one who didn't know this but Lily Zhu is Caleb and Lilith's cousin! Kinda wished it showed in their family tree though
Me to I can’t wait to add my mods back so I make lily and Lilith mom ghost sisters and make them cousins and same for the landgrabs cousin
How you'd figure that out :0?
@@CassPass73 it's in her family description -_-
@@CassPass73 It's one of her answers when using "ask about Moonwood Mill"! And apparently also in her family description, but I always forget to read those 😂
@@astronomicalmars lily vatores family description?
Okay, but this makes me want to be able to (like Sulani) repair the magic realm. Just think It'd be so meta. Of course your Sim would have to master both untamed and mischief branches. Or maybe, if we want a true challenge, a Sim needs to have completed the Vampire, Spellcaster, and Wherewolf aspirations to finally bind the realms.
That would be soooo cool! Would definitly make me want to play with supernaturals then.
That would be so cool 😍
It would be so sick if they had "Unite the Magic Realm" as a storyline and aspiration like they did with Strangerville. I'd love for it to be complex with Vampires and Werewolves, too.
Wdym by "like sulani" /genq
@@lassaing You're able permanently change Sulani by cleaning it up
i want to add a few more things that i found^^
1) celene was actually lou’s ex gf, they both went on a date at night and encountered greg, greg bites lou but celene escaped. times passed and lou finally accepted himself as a werewolf, but celene didn’t, which led to both of them going separate ways.
2) rory was originally from brindleton bay. she was actually bitten by a dog at the vet and not another werewolf, so perhaps sims are also able to transform into werewolf in this way too. rory’s parents couldn’t accept her transformation so they kicked her out, she wandered alone, kristopher then found her and adopted her. he’s hurt by her way of living now but rory still remembers his kindness in the past and respect him as a leader, and she actually desires to be a good leader kristopher always wanted her to be.
3) this is not what i found in the lore but i do believe the vampires deserve more of their own lore, call me biased but we can’t judge a story only from one point of view :’) vlad, lilith and caleb could’ve had it worse than greg in the past, we don’t know things about them as much as we know about the werewolves. it’s best to stay neutral now and don’t immediately paint them as villains. not trying to justify whatever wrongs the vampires committed in the past but please, give them a chance ;-;
didn’t celene get bitten aswell but chose to get a cure?
@@oscarkamala yeah she did 🤔 idk how celene pull Lou 👀🤣
@@Soupbat it’s the other way around babes, lou is mediocre
With ur last take nah we know enough the vampires are the ones that wanted war
@@spaceyofficial.0127 i was referring to vlad lilith and caleb specifically. if the other vampires were the ones who started sh!t and the rest of them were taught to live in the same way for hundreds of years, i’m not going to blame them for that.
I think you'll need to do another video exploring further, Jesse, because just now while playing I got a dialogue from Lily Zhu where she told my sim that her cousin LILITH got lured away to the dark arts long ago 👀 The lore keeps going and I'm SO excited to discover more!
I like that there's so much history packed into this one single game pack that it can easily spawn some fanfics or animatics or whatever just about those townies. Good stuff good stuff we need more of that
so true
That begs the question if we can somehow spawn a fandom just for the Moonwood Mill Sims
Yesss we that need fan content 👏
@@bowserkeep well i guess we need to get on with that!
@@ratter1023 anyone know cheats for dormant abilities on werewolf?
Actually cried out at the "fracture" represented in the magic realm. Hat tip and chef's kiss to the Sims team.
Gotta love a plumbella : entire history of...
*gotta love a plumbella
Apoluply!😁
@@zoeamelii is that not what I wrote? Or maybe I am blind and can't see the mistake lol
@@ellisrichardson2461 anyone know cheats for dormant abilities on werewolf?
I've had a lot of fun playing the pack the last few days, but I do wish that werewolves would have a special social action or relationship with dogs. I feel like it would have also been able to support the lore because of the mooncasters and their familiars.
they both howl at the same time
@@kiarnawhiteley6416 anyone know cheats for dormant abilities on werewolf?
I was so disappointed that werewolves can't use the chew toys. It makes so much sense idk why they didn't do it.
I know what you mean. I was also disappointed that you couldn't create your own pack. I mean, sure. You can make a group and fill it with wolf companions. But that feels more like a "casual hangout gathering" of a bunch of wolves instead of a "hierchy organization based on who's the strongest".
@@MeonLights I know! Or how cute would it be if a werewolf could play tug-of-war with a dog instead of only with other werewolves
Vampires, spellcasters, and werewolves literally have so much lord but mermaids don’t have any 😭 mermaids need a refresh just for lore so badlyy
Wont be suprised if spellcasters also made them
@@spaceyofficial.0127 considering werewolves were created by spellcasters combining with their wolf familiars, maybe an ancient group of Sulani spellcasters combined with fish familiars and it lead to mermaids?
@@Marigold11037 or perhaps dolphins, since dolphins love mermaids in-game
@Tory T I thought so originally, but it could be interesting to have them tie in to the other occult types. Maybe the island spirits predate spellcasters?
@Tory T oh good point! I don't know too much about sims lore sorry, I only have a couple packs including ROM
I think it's cool that packs can have isolated spirits and magic then!
My fave bit of lore in this pack has gotta be the new lore surrounding the vatores they were basically Lily's cousins but when they got turned it ruined their relationship
Whaaat, they're related?? Bruh in my save file Lily called my sim and asked if she should go on a date with Caleb omg
@@hibiscuspetals02 *Sweet Home Alabama intensifies*
@@Life_Universe_Everything she said she had a really good time too 💀
@@hibiscuspetals02 anyone know cheats for dormant abilities on werewolf?
@@tmfthetheft9817 I think one of the artifacts said to swim in the moon shaped lake under the full moon
"I had a howling good time"
Hens: you did this for what?
Jesse: why not?
Ma’am I need a part 2 of you digging into the moonwood mill lore
Cause based on the comments there is so much more and I absolutely LOVE it when you deep dives like this
A couple of other pieces I found. Apparently Jacob was in some sort of danger when Kristopher first found him. Also Kristopher admits to still feeling glad to have been able to raise Rory despite the differences the two currently have, which is sweet.
Edit: New info, Kristopher mentioned he had an encounter with the vampires when he first met Jacob. So he likely saved Jacob from the vampires.
Edit 2: Just got more of the story! Kristopher: "When I found Jacob, he was practically a pup. I'd heard there was a feral werewolf in those woods, and I wanted to help. Turns out, there was also a Vampire there. Thankfully, I got to Jacob before either of them could. When I found the other wolf, he wasn't interested in coming back to Moonwood Mill with me. A pack didn't interest him. Some Werewolves like being the lone wolf."
seeing as spellcasters and wereworlves are linked by mooncasters (who turned into werewolves) it would be fun gameplay to play through being a spellcaster who then transitions to a werewoves after completing their goal as a spellcaster (hope this makes sense)!
6:00 that story genuinely made me emotional😭I don’t care if my sims look like furries im getting this pack. feeling ✨inspired✨
you know, i think sims looking like furries is actually a very good thing. furries are known to be wealthy as fuck and very dedicated to their hobby, so we might expect to get really good CC and mods to this pack
@@anti_acido wait omg you’re absolutely right
@@Ville_x anyone know cheats for dormant abilities on werewolf?
"just giving switzerland" that history reference was chef's kiss Jesse
Another fun fact, you can find lore on the other members of the back if you ask them! For example Lou and Celine came to the town together and both got bitten, but Lou did not take the cure while Celine did!
some of the interactions with vampires, werewolves and spellcasters ARE giving me world of darkness energy.
Note- We probably are only hearing the wolves' side of the story! In a vampire pack refresh, we could probably hear their side, too, and finally get the full picture. Remember that history is written by the winners and currently, it sounds like nobody had won.
Following up on the fact that a tamed cow plant ate Yina, on the tamed cow plant skull and jawbone are the words ‘I will avenge you’, and the jawbone is said to have Greg’s distinct smell on it!
I've raid that too! Very curious whether that's about Yina or Avelina tho :D
There’s also some lore for non places households like the bartender and her ex Lou and the mysteries werewolf writer Wolfgang! Love that even if they are placed in the world they got some backstory too!
Wait as in Wolfgang Munch???
@@abibas3050 Nah, there’s a werewolf called Wolfgang that comes with the pack.
I think that Myshupotamia wasn’t Moonwood Mill like you said, but actually another society in a different place that the Moocasters got inspiration from for their cowplant taming. If I had to guess, I’d assume that San Myshuno might’ve been the original place where Myshupotamia was before that society fell and a new city was built there with a different name.
I had the same thought
Yeah! A snippet of conversation from Greg is that he says he’s from San Myshuno but before it was built up
@@ashleyb7073 omg yeah i was gonna say this- he said he was around when it had horses and carriages still i was losing my mind HAHA
my friend showed me a screen shot- she met the elderly werewolf lily- and when i learned shes the vatores cousin it blew my mind how theyre tying the packs together. Also since Lily is an elder it really shines into perspective how long the vatores have been vampires.
Oh my lord I though EA had made a character named Remus for this pack and I turned to my cat, Remus, to tell him the news… then I saw it was Jess’s character and I had to tell him the EVEN BETTER NEWS!!
5:55 BlandCo is actually a brand of objects in the world of The Sims 4, some items are in B&B! LOVE TO SEE IT
the fact that we're talking about sims 4 SPOILERS in these comments makes me so happy for the future of the franchise
Fr it’s so fun playing as a werewolf but it’s stressful when the rage takes over your sim lol and same my sims mate is Lou and let’s just say they did not like each other at first lmao
Sheesh, that is indeed a LOT of lore! O.o EA went all out with the background on this pack, huh? Really makes me want a refresh for vampires and spellcasters (and the other occults too, but for lore purposes, those two) so that this can all be tied together properly. Nice work!
Before I watch this video, I got to say Plumbella... I adore these 'Entire History Of' lessons in The Sims Lore & History.
I'm so glad you have gained in confidence and you share your passions for The Sims by explaining THE TEA! (Sips)
Thank you for being you, and being inspirational to many people who have struggles with Mental, Physical or Social issues... but are still going strong.
If enough people (from all over) talk and give insight... are open about these experiences and feelings. Other humans who are struggling feels less alone, and feel supported and are battling with a bad ass team of warriors behind them. 😌
🌸 Thank you again for being Plumbella 🌸
*vampires and werewolves being enemies*
me: ... im gonna them fall in love
same I want to do star crossed lovers
I’m truly obsessed with the lore for this pack. I even made Lily’s + Lilith’s and Caleb’s parents, made them related w Mc Command center and them obvi killed the elders (sorry!) Now Lily is legit the Vatore’s cousin in the family tree. I also created Miss Hell (from the broken mirror description) because she’s the one that turned Caleb according to Lily. Moved her into Forgotten Hollow and made her date Vlad lol. Such a good time!
"whoever worked on the lore of this pack put their entire simussy into this" cracked me up❤
If you talk about Moonwood Mill with Lily Zhu, she said that she is cousin of Caleb and Lilith Vatore
So basically spellcasters caused the whole mess of vampires and werewolves. They created monsters that started a war and then they created more monsters in defense. Vicious circle.
Wow that is a lot of lore! Poor Greg has been through a lot. I now must tame Greg and give him peace and joy in his life.
I just started a save that is a spellcaster, werewolf, vampire, mermaid, and alien polycule that are looking past their shared history for the sake of their love 🥰
So they used plants to defend themselves against the undead...Why does THAT sound familiar... HMM
Haha that was my first though when I saw that :)
FINALLY getting some quality lore!! it’s the bare minimum but I’m hyped nonetheless
drinking game suggestion: take a shot every time Plumbella says rawr
last man standing wins
The sims finally givings the fan service we've been asking for
I find it hilarious that they gave us plants versus zombies without the zombies, it would be hilarious and terrifying to be chased down the street by a prehistoric cow plant with legs. But that would explain why realm of magic is not a livable area because the only people living there are ghosts and the sages can't live there so I guess that's why they have to return as often as they do. And I consider this a bonus point but remember that bug where every Sim became a spellcaster when the pack came out, that could have been the sages plan to rebuild the realm itself by getting a fresh bunch of idiots to learn magic so they can have enough power to do it.
Speaking of vampires using the bar in town, vlad cooked himself under the sun trying to buy a drink in my game.
This Lore is actually quite related to existing lore, as lot of of supernatural lore has Vampire and Werewolves come from witches.
This just makes for a realm of magic refresh!! More lore and more spells and cross compatibility
I love how this pack ties all of the occult lore together
I’ve been so quickly scrolling past any tik toks w werewolf lore bc I needed to hear it from plumbella first 🥳🥳🥳
sims lore is seriously some of my favorite things they do they’re so good at it, i wish they’d implement it MORE through stuff like this and further gameplay that isn’t just a one and done thing (strangerville my beloathed)
Seriously considering re downloading the sims 4 and purchasing this pack just because of the lore. My favorite part of the older sims games was just playing in existing households and giving them makeovers just because they had such good lore.
Take a shot whenever Plumbella says “ RAWRX”
I really want them to revamp (ha) the vampire pack like they did with the spa day pack, but make it in a similar style to this one. Like update the world and the lore and maybe make npcs and the like
As someone who is autistic, blocks of text with absolutely no visuals are the worst way to immerse me into the game. I really appreciate you for covering the lore, it actually was pretty cool. It's just a shame it had to be understood through walls of text, makes it really inaccessible to a lot of different types of players. I like the memory system and screenshots in the sims 2 to tell us stories, it helped pull everything together. Thann you for this video! All of your hardwork is definitely appreciated! Your editor's too! :D
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS YESSS
That makes me wonder, has anyone tried playing a spellcaster in Moonwood Mill yet? I would experiment, but I sadly have to wait a month or so to get the pack :(
“There’s lore in the wind, babe” 😭😂 you are too hilarious lol
I love that the leader of the Wildfang pack is called "Roary" 😂
And Lou is Lou Howell lol
@@tracilane5671 Omg you're right! And Lou is how to pronounce Loup, the French word for wolf 😂 I love it
Plumbella: “You brought my diary to school!?!?”
Me: I understood that reference!!!
Werewolves and Vampires: *At War*
Mermaids, Aliens, and Spellcasters: 👁👄👁
.... I mean the war is literally because of spellcasters and vampires, so it's not like they aren't a part of it
What I'm confused about is the name "Myshupotamians". I assumed it was based on ancient Mesopotamia, maybe in the same location as modern San Myshuno. Moonwood Mills doesn't give me big Mesopotamia vibes....
I think your are right ‘cause in one pop up Greg says he grew up in Old San Myshuno, with dirt roads and carriages
@@pabloranz902 😮😮😮
Probably just a joke tbh
When I was playing I was asking Lily about Moonwood Mill and she hinted to my sim that she is cousins with Lilith Voltore and I was like “tea”
Not just Lilith, but Caleb too. She says that Caleb is a “gentle soul” while Lilith “always had a dark side” when you ask her about Moonwood Mill.
there’s some lore u can get from speaking to greg, he mentions christopher and i was under the impression he’s greg’s son or something?? i could’ve misread but he talks about how christopher looks more and more like his mother
He talks about how he looks like his mother because Greg knew Maria, Kristopher's mom. On the figuring of Maria's familiar it states that she and Greg would often debate about their purpose of being good or bad, and how Greg was jealous of Maria because she could control her fury.
Caleb and Lilith both show up at the Bar from time to time! (But Lilith seems more wary, probably because of Lily) And so do some of the Charms and Morgans. Which makes sense given the connection to spellcasters.
Just have to say your hair looks amazing in this! Thank you for breaking down the lore! xx
I love the lore of this pack so much, it literally gave me inspiration to play the sims again and I'm having a blast with it
Please join me in 💫manifesting 💫 ROM being the next pack refresh so we can tie in some more lore and make famiars actually *do* something. It would be amazing if each type had a specific strength or connected to certain spells/skills, but also, if there were limitations on that power because....look what happened with the wolf familiars..... 🤞🤞🤞🤞
9:34 my sim was getting along with her pretty well, but I tried asking for werewolf sympathy (thought that’d make sense) and it pissed her right off lol
vlad is celene's number one patron in my game, and i can't get over it 😂 also, i had my sim go there to explore, and him and celene fell madly in love. they have some lycan-bond now and omg.. this pack has really outdone itself.
i loved that very small very brief derry girls diary reference. i see u, i appreciate u.
What about the lore related to Lord Lycan and Lady Sanguina? How does that fit with the new lore we received in this pack.
Where did you read this?
Kinda want you to make the original moon casters in cas. Would look to see what you think they'd look like.
I've been going insane for days playing this because I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO AVELINA. HOW DID SHE DIE?! Does anyone know?!?! lol
I am guessing she got hit by a meteorite but no clue
It’s implied that she wasn’t taking care of her needs because she was too infatuated with the moon, so possibly starvation.
As someone who has a hard time reading through a lot of text I really appreciatie this.
Love all of this lore, and how the living sims all have preexisting relationships and skills, etc. One question tho: how did Avelina die? I guess I’ll have sniff around Moonwood Mill to find out.
I haven’t found this yet. I thought it might be in Greg’s diary but I’ve reread it heaps of time and haven’t found anything new. I hope it’s there somewhere as I have a feeling it’s going to give a lot of insight into Greg.
I think Avelina died from exhaustion, because Greg said she always overworked herself iirc.
wow they really did so well with this pack! this lore is amazing 😍
bestie your light hair and the striped colourful top with the white background is bringing me back to your 'entire history of' videos from 2, 3 years ago. the videos that summoned me to this channel💖
and can't miss me with that TS reference!
OK but I don't think Kristopher wrongfully took credit for the creation of the Moonwood Collective. Maria may have founded the basic ideals of the moonwood collective and had a vision for what moonwood mill should be like but the actual conception of a pack/community based on these ideals is Kristopher's doing.
The lore absolutely gives this game pack another dimension! I was genuinely so curious. Thank you for the summary dear Jessie ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
THANK YOU for saying you always play on three times speed because I didn’t know anyone else that does that too until now!!
Okay. I’ve been purposely avoiding this video until I’d played long enough to explore myself. But now I can’t wait to see what I’ve missed!
I have not read any of the blocks of text because I trusted you to teach me the lore in a way I could understand. So excited for this video
Fantastic video but I did have to rewind three times to realize "Mooncasters" and "Moocasters" were different words, I was so confused 😭
Volkov is fun detail, it's a surname of slavic origin that actually means something close to 'of wolf', "belongs to wolf"
Thanks for this entire history of video babe. I love the energy, enthusiasm and dedication you put in making these videos. The lore in this pack is fantastic and I'm just soaking it all up until I can buy the pack.
I LOVED the story of Yina Kia, so tragic and cute the bit about Emmy and Renga ;____;
Me @ EA: okay now give us this kinda lore for vampires
That's how the magic realm broke?! :O Amazing! I would love a part 2 to this once you've had more time to explore and talk to Greg. I've heard rumors that there is some Vatore and Vlad lore to be found underground but I haven't found anything yet.
Also would like other occults or just humans to be fated mates with werewolves.
If you’re on PC, there’s a mod on mod the sims that lets that happen
@@territullos2729 I know I found it
Thank you for this Plumbella, the lore is sort of everywhere it's good to have a video to break it all down
The pure effort but into this video and it only released 3 days ago love you Jess xxx
ur hair looks so good today
Me playing as a werewolf so vlad doesn’t come to my house x
You can disallow vampires? On your front door?
@@JDM-is-my-name and what about it.
@@JDM-is-my-name maybe I secretly don’t want him to go
I like reading the text tbh. They did the lore so well. Great summary!!
YES! I was waiting for this video ever since I got the pack and opened a book at the library. I immediately said to myself "where is plumbella when I need her?! They spilled an ocean of tea" and also when I saw even the collectibles have lore? Oh my. I'm 2 seconds in and you get an instant like just cause
This is the video that convinced me to get the pack. I love your lore videos, never stop making them!!!
Watching now! I've been waiting for this and idk how I missed you posting this yesterday!!
I clicked this so fast! I was getting confused about some of the characters names and who was who and what was a mooncaster so I VERY MUCH appreciate this!