I think Kaido will become more and more appreciated the longer time passes. Especially once we get the full Rocks and Joyboy stories to actually complete the full picture around Kaido
Agreed, everyone forgets how much Dressrosa and Whole Cake were hated while they were being written, now they're considered one of the best arcs in the series. I think the same will happen to Wano, and by extension Kaido.
People only say Kaido is mid because they want his story to have more ties to the longing history and lore of the One Piece world. and because people didn't get that deep lore connection kaido, they say he's mid. Instead of looking at him for the beast he is. and ALL his one-liners were BARS! The man fought for 60+ chapters STRAIGHT, NO BREAKS, while holding an island, and still only lost because he decided to take the Bajrang Gun head on instead of avoiding it.
I understand people who feel that way (although I vehemently disagree). We’ve gotten spoiled with deep characterization from the likes of Doflamingo, who was lightning in a bottle really. I feel that more people will come around to liking Kaido in the subsequent years to come. Happens all the time with this series.
@@charondesousa8868 because he made a speech in marineford. It was cold prolly one of the best quotes in the verse but when people talk about doffy the main thing they talk about is his flashback
Something what I found weird was that at the time of Wano, there were theories of why Kaido tried to get to Marineford during the Summit War. People were throwing around things like Kaido was coming to save Ace and Ace was actually on Kaidos crew. Since we got to truly know Kaido in Wano, I thought the reasons were pretty obvious. There are 2 main ones. 1. Kaido is opportunist. He sees that Marines are already weakened by fighting Whitebeards fleet. Making a move right there would have been like killing two birds with one stone. Taking down Marines and possibly a rival Yonko (if Whitebeard had not died). Doing this would have dropped the world out of ballance and into chaos, which is something Kaido relishes. A true war he yearned for. Shanks saw this coming and therefore stopped him. 2. Kaido dreams of glorious death. The kind that leaves your name permanently in history. And weaklings cant choose the place they die. The Summit War would have been great opportunity for it. He must be so jealous of Whitebeard.
kaidos introduction is the best in the series but oda never showed us any backstory on it however, the anime seems to be adding things and this would be the perfect way to show kaidos full backstory with great animation
He did show us, he was only used for his strength since akid in his poor country, people respect him because of strength so he came to the conclusion that people don't love you they only fear and respect you because you're strong... he lived the life of the strongest so now he wants to die on that sane level Aka as a legend, he feels like that would complete him to die like roger in grand status, ahais t joyboy a figure that can change the world itself
I really love Kaido and he is a really good villain, its just that the expectations weren't properly met. But dang he is an SSS class villain when it comes to difficulty.
"you couldnt be joyboy EITHER (key word) it seems" 13:37 feels like he fought countless individuals expecting some of them to be joyboy who was destined to beat him and kaido knew that and yet when joyboy finally appeared he wasnt strong enough to beat kaido by himself! truly the top 1 of the current timeline from known characters without a shadow of a doubt! most battle forged guy or should i say thing in the series 😈 btw amazing video dude!!!
The only villain I'd put as definitively above Kaido is Doffy, he's somewhere between top 2 and top 5 for me. He does still have more to him that could be revealed in the future, which could put him even higher retrospectively. I think he became depressed wishing for death because of his stay in Wano. He grew complacent, slowly losing his ambitions to be Joyboy and change the world and Oden's death made him realise he couldn't really do it. Instead he decided to somehow chase that end for himself which he already saw as impossible for him
Man, honestly? I never understood why Kaidou backstory is so focused on. Kaidou and Big mom are basically the same in regards to backstory: Their short, but basic backstories are there to showcase us only the start of whom they are now. The difference with Big Mom is she's connected to Elbaf. Kaidou's a simple guy! He was strong, entered strong crews, everyone respected him and made him a legend cause he's strong, so he became who he is now. I honestly have no interest on who Kaidou was, cause I pretty much feel he was no one in the past. He was just a strong man doing strong man stuff and he only became "KAIDOU THE BEAST" as he became older and started conquering Wano, which we saw enough. We don't need deep characterization or deep backstories to every villain as long as we understand who they are, and their characterization is well done, which Kaidou checks perfectly
Well there’s a lot to Kaido that you may have missed for one thing is that he is the last survivor of his race that’s connected to the lunarians which made him take pity on king being the last lunarians alive just like he is the last of his race not to mention whatever happened with him and rock d xebec on gods valley is also a huge hit to him mentally and as a character bc god valley incident brought him to the brink of death where big mom gave him his mythical span devil fruit and supposedly saved his life and this is where she says he owes her one for that and sengoku also stated that those who remember that tale is too embarrassed to even speak rocks d xebec name ever again which is huge for someone held as the strongest creature on the planet
Hopefully my comment adds depth to the character of kaido for you bc I also forgot to mention he tried to kill himself multiple times and each time failed he even went as far as letting himself get captured and sentenced to death which also did not work he does this for two reason which is the embarrassment of god valley and him obsessed with “joy boy” but knowing deep down that he was not chosen to change the world but luffy was
Kaido deserve more being sas as good villain,he cause at least 80-70% of plot after time skip,Dressrosa,Punk hazard and zou,are arc important that connect Kaido and his control over years like Big Mom,plus he was defenetly hopeless or just didn't had joy in life,he wan't find somone to rival him.He like roger but born too late lol or born in wrong time.
7:10 you cannot empathize with kaido against oden because of his actions with orochi. Not only that he could’ve just tried to fight big mom after he had killed oden and realized that emptiness but he doesn’t.
Kaido just needed a bit more backstory than what the manga gave us. Aside from that, he's an okay (not great) villain. We got enough of Big Mom's backstory to completely understand her character. Why couldn't Oda have done the same for Kaido?
Might be a timing thing, there’s probably heavy Rocks stuff involved that Oda isn’t ready to go deep into yet. I’m expecting the anime to heavily expand upon the backstory we DID get though
I may be reaching. But you can’t reveal kaidos full backstory without showing who rocks is and the God Valley Incident. I don’t know why ppl expected kaidos full flashback.I still feel like it’ll come eventually.
Kaido, for the entire Onigashima battle, was climbing up my ranks as the perfect villain. The only one who could surpass Doffy, Crocodile and Katakuri as the best One Piece villains in my list. But, damn, I really did need a good flashback for him. It's like this. If I've to piece together information spread across short flashbacks and dialogues by multiple characters across a 70 chapter battle, with a ton of speculation still, I really can't say the flashback delivered. Not saying every villain needs a flashback. Crocodile is a great example. But, Oda undeniably setup so much for him and yet, we didn't get anything. He's still top 5 One Piece villains tho. Just feels like Oda didn't do him justice in terms of delivery. Whatever information we have, feels like a setup, a half-written story. And, until I get the full story, he won't be in my personal top 3. But, even that isn't the main issue. My biggest issue is that we'll get everything after he's defeated. Sure, a retrospective look at him will be great then, but with how hyped and hugely important Wano was, I really think delivering a good, well fleshed out and fully explorex villain within the arc is my preference.
This is understandable and I can’t fault you whatsoever for feeling that way as I shared the same sentiment initially. Whether or not this is what Oda had planned from the onset for Kaido, we will never know. I do get where you’re coming from on his flashback not delivering. It’s very short and montage-y, with us readers being left to fill in the pieces.. like I did in this video. He absolutely should have been more fleshed out in Wano and even though we didn’t get what we were hoping for, I am at least content with where things stand at the moment. I think that Kaido is still a hell of an antagonist even without the lengthy backstory.
@@DarkKingAdonis Yeah, Kaido is great. Easily among the top 5 One Piece villains. But since his story feels half written, half baked, not top 3. Without knowing the full story, I can't say he's top 3. And I really don't know when Oda will address his backstory in the future. Rocks? But what about his days after the God Valley? It just feels like the things his flashback includes in terms of following up with the already setup material connects to so many different things and parts of the One Piece world that I can't currently think of any one place we can get his full story. I think Oda was holding back too much. The main thing everyone noticed was that he was smiling in all the short flashbacks we'd gotten with King and Gecko Moria, and now he's just depressed. I really wanted to see this transition. And since all the filling in gap stuff is just speculation without us knowing what happened in his past, it feels like believing in a theory because the canon story didn't deliver.
Yep. A lot of it is speculative on my part (think I mentioned that). It’s like ordering a sandwich but you don’t get any meat or mayo. You can still make do with what you were given - however, you would be immensely more satisfied had you received a proper sandwich. Kaido may return in the story at some point or another. I’m not really convinced that he’s dead or his overall character arc is complete. We could very well get a more substantial backstory then. But that’s operating under assumptions. If that doesn’t happen, then I can say that I personally did really enjoy what we DID get. :)
Something people are overlooking is that there will be a return to Wano in the future. There’s the mystery of the ancient weapons, Yamato, and the looming threat of an invasion of Wano to come. Also, Kaido stated several times that he was based in Wano for a very specific reason which wasn’t explicitly stated during the course of the arc. We’re just too impatient, which makes sense when you’re following week to week. Let’s not forget that Oda is the master of setup and payoff. Everything that happened in Wano has left many seemingly loose ends that aren’t as they appear. Let’s just wait and see what’s to come. Also, Kaido wasn’t confirmed captured or killed. And we have most definitely not seen the last of Big Mom as well. Both are in Wano and are a wildcard to say the least.
@@DarkKingAdonis Yes, but they were unable to kill him, only defeated him. I believe gorosei and other admirals have power to kill him, but we do not see it. :)
I mean I think he knew the world gov couldn’t beat him at all. Also there’s no point in fighting a losing battle. Kaido is a one on one guy and we see that no one alive can challenge him one on one. That’s why he waited for luffy/joyboy to come to give him the fight if his life.
@@DhruvPatelDearDhruv there is no admiral who can kill kaido . It's Stated by the narrator himself that kaido is immortal and nobody can kill him even him self
I’m confused it seemed kaido thought he was ultimate duty was to enslave Wano. Like he saw a flaw in their culture that insulted him? Like they weren’t strong enough the samurai and them being this mockery of strength made the world less inconvenient to Kaido? What the hell was his motivation. Why did he ask Luffy if he could change the world?
Kaido only won when the enemy is too weak to fight him or through the cheating of others to have him get a victory on a superior enemy- both times he got very angry. Whenever he fights a top-tier fighter, he gets stomped. He’s not happy he’s always going to be mid-tier in spite of being described as the strongest creature. And getting reminded that his own child wants to be like one of the guys that stomped him is just another stomping on the wound.
This was a very good analysis. Too bad theres a chance Oda might never make a serious effort to explore his past outside of God valley. Should have happened sooner.
I'll put it this way. If Kaido came out the lava for one more quick round he would have met the expectations set up for him. If there were 3 more chapters for that then Kaido.would have been a 10/10
Kaido’s world view never changed though? He’s always believed men’s true worth can only be displayed in battle, strength is quite literally everything in his philosophy. And that’s adopted BECAUSE he was a child soldier. He currently believes that as well. Not really understanding where you think he might have lost himself over the years but even his current “onigashima plan” was the embodiment of that philosophy, a pirate stronghold where they’d go on numerous expeditions armed with ancient weapons to bring the world upside down. A “world of violence” he called it You mention that there was undeniable setup for a more fleshed out character, but never give any examples? I’m curious to know what was alluded to that mandated a in-wano conclusion or pay off Also I loathe crocodile and his role in the story. Awful villain
I interpreted Kaido as someone who became increasingly jaded over a period of time. No doubt his upbringing as a child soldier played a large into his philosophy, but like I mentioned in the video, there was very much an intent to change the world. This part of his character remains unresolved. I have a hard time believing that a pirate stronghold is what he alluded to during the brief flashback with King. That’s what led to my assuming that there is more to him and it will be addressed later down the line. Similar to how Crocodile was explored more at a deeper level in Marineford, I believe the same will be for Kaido in the final saga. He doesn’t have to be directly involved for this to happen either. Could be a Rocks flashback or whatever the case might be.
@@DarkKingAdonis Ask yourself what it means to kaido to change the world. He doesn't have some larger than life, optimistic goal. To him, changing the world is bringing it to a level he sees fit. Total mayhem across the seas. Extorting a tyrannical figure, dealing in the underworld, and forcing govt scientists to help strengthen his army was his means to an end. Obviously what kaido had in mind during the brief exchange we saw with king wasn't the details, but the end result has always been the same. I don't see any evidence pointing kaido towards a life of revolution and liberty. Nothing about him that *needed* to be addressed in wano's storyline went unaddressed. Certainly not if you think kaido didn't want to apply his ideology onto others forcefully. There wasn't a character arc that crocodile had in either his introductory arc nor his later appearances, and they certainly weren't needed. Hoping for character revelations about kaido in a future arc is setting yourself up for disappointment in my honest opinion dawg It might be that you misinterpreted the scene and thus, had unrealistic expectations for a character arc that wasn't there...
That’s the beautiful thing about fiction. It can be viewed and interpreted in many different ways. I could be wrong in how I viewed what was written and if that’s the case I don’t care too much. I’m just sharing what I thought of it all and I’m ok if Oda doesn’t further flesh out Kaido as well. I don’t link my expectations much to overall enjoyment. It’s not my story at the end of the day.
I think Kaido will become more and more appreciated the longer time passes. Especially once we get the full Rocks and Joyboy stories to actually complete the full picture around Kaido
You get it. 🤝🏾
Agreed, everyone forgets how much Dressrosa and Whole Cake were hated while they were being written, now they're considered one of the best arcs in the series. I think the same will happen to Wano, and by extension Kaido.
agreed, its must that we get that full picture.. or else we riot!
@@megabladechronicles962difference is Wano is finished too yet Kaido is still mid
People only say Kaido is mid because they want his story to have more ties to the longing history and lore of the One Piece world. and because people didn't get that deep lore connection kaido, they say he's mid. Instead of looking at him for the beast he is. and ALL his one-liners were BARS! The man fought for 60+ chapters STRAIGHT, NO BREAKS, while holding an island, and still only lost because he decided to take the Bajrang Gun head on instead of avoiding it.
I understand people who feel that way (although I vehemently disagree). We’ve gotten spoiled with deep characterization from the likes of Doflamingo, who was lightning in a bottle really. I feel that more people will come around to liking Kaido in the subsequent years to come. Happens all the time with this series.
I agree. I’ve said this for years if doffy wasn’t a celestial he would not be as liked as much. 🤷♂️
@@travisealy3512 nah Doffy was a fan favourite long before we even knew anything about him, man was too charismatic
@@charondesousa8868 because he made a speech in marineford. It was cold prolly one of the best quotes in the verse but when people talk about doffy the main thing they talk about is his flashback
@@DarkKingAdonisonly problem is Kaido needs his backstory, it feels unfinished
An A tier villain,can be S tier with a little back story
You see the vision. The lack of an extensive flashback doesn’t hurt his character at all imo.
Something what I found weird was that at the time of Wano, there were theories of why Kaido tried to get to Marineford during the Summit War. People were throwing around things like Kaido was coming to save Ace and Ace was actually on Kaidos crew.
Since we got to truly know Kaido in Wano, I thought the reasons were pretty obvious. There are 2 main ones.
1. Kaido is opportunist. He sees that Marines are already weakened by fighting Whitebeards fleet. Making a move right there would have been like killing two birds with one stone. Taking down Marines and possibly a rival Yonko (if Whitebeard had not died). Doing this would have dropped the world out of ballance and into chaos, which is something Kaido relishes. A true war he yearned for. Shanks saw this coming and therefore stopped him.
2. Kaido dreams of glorious death. The kind that leaves your name permanently in history. And weaklings cant choose the place they die. The Summit War would have been great opportunity for it. He must be so jealous of Whitebeard.
kaidos introduction is the best in the series but oda never showed us any backstory on it
however, the anime seems to be adding things and this would be the perfect way to show kaidos full backstory with great animation
I agree. That’s the great thing about having an anime adaptation; it can simply fill in whatever the manga failed to properly explore.
Still, I feel like We may have some if God Valley incident happens.
He did show us, he was only used for his strength since akid in his poor country, people respect him because of strength so he came to the conclusion that people don't love you they only fear and respect you because you're strong... he lived the life of the strongest so now he wants to die on that sane level Aka as a legend, he feels like that would complete him to die like roger in grand status, ahais t joyboy a figure that can change the world itself
Kaido is simply a villain who has *no joy left*
I really love Kaido and he is a really good villain, its just that the expectations weren't properly met. But dang he is an SSS class villain when it comes to difficulty.
@flyfoxzone0394 shit, it really was 4 years
"you couldnt be joyboy EITHER (key word) it seems" 13:37
feels like he fought countless individuals expecting some of them to be joyboy who was destined to beat him and kaido knew that and yet when joyboy finally appeared he wasnt strong enough to beat kaido by himself!
truly the top 1 of the current timeline from known characters without a shadow of a doubt!
most battle forged guy or should i say thing in the series 😈
btw amazing video dude!!!
The only villain I'd put as definitively above Kaido is Doffy, he's somewhere between top 2 and top 5 for me. He does still have more to him that could be revealed in the future, which could put him even higher retrospectively.
I think he became depressed wishing for death because of his stay in Wano. He grew complacent, slowly losing his ambitions to be Joyboy and change the world and Oden's death made him realise he couldn't really do it. Instead he decided to somehow chase that end for himself which he already saw as impossible for him
I think what’s also cool is the story of the Koi fish and how it relates to Kaido and Momnosuke
Amazing analysis. I think he’s very under appreciated
Thank you! Kaido is a great villain in my opinion, the best of the post-time skip.
Great vid man keep it up!
Thank you! I plan to
Man, honestly? I never understood why Kaidou backstory is so focused on. Kaidou and Big mom are basically the same in regards to backstory: Their short, but basic backstories are there to showcase us only the start of whom they are now. The difference with Big Mom is she's connected to Elbaf. Kaidou's a simple guy! He was strong, entered strong crews, everyone respected him and made him a legend cause he's strong, so he became who he is now. I honestly have no interest on who Kaidou was, cause I pretty much feel he was no one in the past. He was just a strong man doing strong man stuff and he only became "KAIDOU THE BEAST" as he became older and started conquering Wano, which we saw enough. We don't need deep characterization or deep backstories to every villain as long as we understand who they are, and their characterization is well done, which Kaidou checks perfectly
Well there’s a lot to Kaido that you may have missed for one thing is that he is the last survivor of his race that’s connected to the lunarians which made him take pity on king being the last lunarians alive just like he is the last of his race not to mention whatever happened with him and rock d xebec on gods valley is also a huge hit to him mentally and as a character bc god valley incident brought him to the brink of death where big mom gave him his mythical span devil fruit and supposedly saved his life and this is where she says he owes her one for that and sengoku also stated that those who remember that tale is too embarrassed to even speak rocks d xebec name ever again which is huge for someone held as the strongest creature on the planet
Hopefully my comment adds depth to the character of kaido for you bc I also forgot to mention he tried to kill himself multiple times and each time failed he even went as far as letting himself get captured and sentenced to death which also did not work he does this for two reason which is the embarrassment of god valley and him obsessed with “joy boy” but knowing deep down that he was not chosen to change the world but luffy was
Kaido deserve more being sas as good villain,he cause at least 80-70% of plot after time skip,Dressrosa,Punk hazard and zou,are arc important that connect Kaido and his control over years like Big Mom,plus he was defenetly hopeless or just didn't had joy in life,he wan't find somone to rival him.He like roger but born too late lol or born in wrong time.
I’m loving Kaido theme music
Dude it’s fire
@@DarkKingAdonis I was enjoying the subtle moments you was sprinkling in 💯
7:10 you cannot empathize with kaido against oden because of his actions with orochi. Not only that he could’ve just tried to fight big mom after he had killed oden and realized that emptiness but he doesn’t.
Kaido just needed a bit more backstory than what the manga gave us. Aside from that, he's an okay (not great) villain.
We got enough of Big Mom's backstory to completely understand her character. Why couldn't Oda have done the same for Kaido?
Might be a timing thing, there’s probably heavy Rocks stuff involved that Oda isn’t ready to go deep into yet. I’m expecting the anime to heavily expand upon the backstory we DID get though
No need to defend Kidio he was a beast rip . Everyone else had to skeem and plot he was just going to take it .
My man just RAW and I love it
All hail emperor kaido 🔥🐉
GOATED character
I may be reaching. But you can’t reveal kaidos full backstory without showing who rocks is and the God Valley Incident. I don’t know why ppl expected kaidos full flashback.I still feel like it’ll come eventually.
That is exactly the case, my friend.
Kaido, for the entire Onigashima battle, was climbing up my ranks as the perfect villain. The only one who could surpass Doffy, Crocodile and Katakuri as the best One Piece villains in my list. But, damn, I really did need a good flashback for him. It's like this. If I've to piece together information spread across short flashbacks and dialogues by multiple characters across a 70 chapter battle, with a ton of speculation still, I really can't say the flashback delivered. Not saying every villain needs a flashback. Crocodile is a great example. But, Oda undeniably setup so much for him and yet, we didn't get anything. He's still top 5 One Piece villains tho. Just feels like Oda didn't do him justice in terms of delivery. Whatever information we have, feels like a setup, a half-written story. And, until I get the full story, he won't be in my personal top 3. But, even that isn't the main issue. My biggest issue is that we'll get everything after he's defeated. Sure, a retrospective look at him will be great then, but with how hyped and hugely important Wano was, I really think delivering a good, well fleshed out and fully explorex villain within the arc is my preference.
This is understandable and I can’t fault you whatsoever for feeling that way as I shared the same sentiment initially. Whether or not this is what Oda had planned from the onset for Kaido, we will never know. I do get where you’re coming from on his flashback not delivering. It’s very short and montage-y, with us readers being left to fill in the pieces.. like I did in this video. He absolutely should have been more fleshed out in Wano and even though we didn’t get what we were hoping for, I am at least content with where things stand at the moment. I think that Kaido is still a hell of an antagonist even without the lengthy backstory.
@@DarkKingAdonis Yeah, Kaido is great. Easily among the top 5 One Piece villains. But since his story feels half written, half baked, not top 3. Without knowing the full story, I can't say he's top 3. And I really don't know when Oda will address his backstory in the future. Rocks? But what about his days after the God Valley? It just feels like the things his flashback includes in terms of following up with the already setup material connects to so many different things and parts of the One Piece world that I can't currently think of any one place we can get his full story. I think Oda was holding back too much. The main thing everyone noticed was that he was smiling in all the short flashbacks we'd gotten with King and Gecko Moria, and now he's just depressed. I really wanted to see this transition. And since all the filling in gap stuff is just speculation without us knowing what happened in his past, it feels like believing in a theory because the canon story didn't deliver.
Yep. A lot of it is speculative on my part (think I mentioned that). It’s like ordering a sandwich but you don’t get any meat or mayo. You can still make do with what you were given - however, you would be immensely more satisfied had you received a proper sandwich.
Kaido may return in the story at some point or another. I’m not really convinced that he’s dead or his overall character arc is complete. We could very well get a more substantial backstory then. But that’s operating under assumptions. If that doesn’t happen, then I can say that I personally did really enjoy what we DID get. :)
@@DarkKingAdonis Yeah. That sandwich analogy is great. I'm a pure vegetarian tho. Imma take a cheese veggie sandwich 😂😂
Something people are overlooking is that there will be a return to Wano in the future. There’s the mystery of the ancient weapons, Yamato, and the looming threat of an invasion of Wano to come. Also, Kaido stated several times that he was based in Wano for a very specific reason which wasn’t explicitly stated during the course of the arc. We’re just too impatient, which makes sense when you’re following week to week. Let’s not forget that Oda is the master of setup and payoff. Everything that happened in Wano has left many seemingly loose ends that aren’t as they appear. Let’s just wait and see what’s to come. Also, Kaido wasn’t confirmed captured or killed. And we have most definitely not seen the last of Big Mom as well. Both are in Wano and are a wildcard to say the least.
Kaido was better than Shanks, before Shanks met Luffy.
i was ok with everything but sadly Oda didn't give me his back story
I’m willing to bet we get more to his backstory in the future!
Kaido could have challeged to the gorosei, or admirals instead of drinking his life away. 🤷♂
It’s implied that he challenged the navy multiple times, no?
@@DarkKingAdonis Yes, but they were unable to kill him, only defeated him. I believe gorosei and other admirals have power to kill him, but we do not see it. :)
If all the admirals fought Kaido at once, he undoubtedly loses in my opinion. The issue is this wouldn’t be the “great death” Kaido sought out.
I mean I think he knew the world gov couldn’t beat him at all. Also there’s no point in fighting a losing battle. Kaido is a one on one guy and we see that no one alive can challenge him one on one. That’s why he waited for luffy/joyboy to come to give him the fight if his life.
@@DhruvPatelDearDhruv there is no admiral who can kill kaido . It's Stated by the narrator himself that kaido is immortal and nobody can kill him even him self
I’m confused it seemed kaido thought he was ultimate duty was to enslave Wano. Like he saw a flaw in their culture that insulted him? Like they weren’t strong enough the samurai and them being this mockery of strength made the world less inconvenient to Kaido? What the hell was his motivation. Why did he ask Luffy if he could change the world?
I felt for him when he morned big mom
Man I hate doffy to the death but kaido's case you just you can't hate him especially he was not born to be evil..
Kaido only won when the enemy is too weak to fight him or through the cheating of others to have him get a victory on a superior enemy- both times he got very angry. Whenever he fights a top-tier fighter, he gets stomped.
He’s not happy he’s always going to be mid-tier in spite of being described as the strongest creature. And getting reminded that his own child wants to be like one of the guys that stomped him is just another stomping on the wound.
This was a very good analysis. Too bad theres a chance Oda might never make a serious effort to explore his past outside of God valley. Should have happened sooner.
I'll put it this way. If Kaido came out the lava for one more quick round he would have met the expectations set up for him. If there were 3 more chapters for that then Kaido.would have been a 10/10
Kaido’s world view never changed though? He’s always believed men’s true worth can only be displayed in battle, strength is quite literally everything in his philosophy. And that’s adopted BECAUSE he was a child soldier. He currently believes that as well. Not really understanding where you think he might have lost himself over the years but even his current “onigashima plan” was the embodiment of that philosophy, a pirate stronghold where they’d go on numerous expeditions armed with ancient weapons to bring the world upside down. A “world of violence” he called it
You mention that there was undeniable setup for a more fleshed out character, but never give any examples? I’m curious to know what was alluded to that mandated a in-wano conclusion or pay off
Also I loathe crocodile and his role in the story. Awful villain
I interpreted Kaido as someone who became increasingly jaded over a period of time. No doubt his upbringing as a child soldier played a large into his philosophy, but like I mentioned in the video, there was very much an intent to change the world. This part of his character remains unresolved. I have a hard time believing that a pirate stronghold is what he alluded to during the brief flashback with King. That’s what led to my assuming that there is more to him and it will be addressed later down the line. Similar to how Crocodile was explored more at a deeper level in Marineford, I believe the same will be for Kaido in the final saga. He doesn’t have to be directly involved for this to happen either. Could be a Rocks flashback or whatever the case might be.
@@DarkKingAdonis Ask yourself what it means to kaido to change the world. He doesn't have some larger than life, optimistic goal. To him, changing the world is bringing it to a level he sees fit. Total mayhem across the seas. Extorting a tyrannical figure, dealing in the underworld, and forcing govt scientists to help strengthen his army was his means to an end. Obviously what kaido had in mind during the brief exchange we saw with king wasn't the details, but the end result has always been the same. I don't see any evidence pointing kaido towards a life of revolution and liberty.
Nothing about him that *needed* to be addressed in wano's storyline went unaddressed. Certainly not if you think kaido didn't want to apply his ideology onto others forcefully.
There wasn't a character arc that crocodile had in either his introductory arc nor his later appearances, and they certainly weren't needed. Hoping for character revelations about kaido in a future arc is setting yourself up for disappointment in my honest opinion dawg
It might be that you misinterpreted the scene and thus, had unrealistic expectations for a character arc that wasn't there...
That’s the beautiful thing about fiction. It can be viewed and interpreted in many different ways. I could be wrong in how I viewed what was written and if that’s the case I don’t care too much. I’m just sharing what I thought of it all and I’m ok if Oda doesn’t further flesh out Kaido as well. I don’t link my expectations much to overall enjoyment. It’s not my story at the end of the day.
@@DarkKingAdonisGot it, that’s a fair assessment then. I consume media in a similar fashion. Nice vid gang
I appreciate it, my friend. Seriously. I’m glad we had this conversation. It’s interesting hearing different perspectives on fiction
Interesting, but disappointing villain
10 hours of editing to defend a mid character
To each their own, friend. I find Kaido to be an interesting villain even if some things weren’t fully fleshed out.
So Don Flamingo ,Katakuri and Rob Lucci are on the same level as Hordy Jones if we take your ranking . That cp 0 agent didn't even try to fight back .
@@GLEN515 Well, my ranking isn’t gospel and that isn’t my opinion at all. It’s okay if we disagree. My take doesn’t have to resemble yours :)
@@DarkKingAdonis I agree me and you see things different ways.
"kaido is the definition of built different" god that was cringe
I’m so sorry you think that 🤣
how is the audience suppose to take you seriously when you're using generic zoomer slang.
I don’t care about being taken seriously. I’m just going to be me and whoever likes it will flock to my content. :)