2.7l Chevy Silverado Beats Tundra....For Me
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- I wanted to respond to several comments from people who have encouraged me to purchase a Toyota Tundra. In this video I wanted to outline two simple reasons why the Tundra would not work for me and my needs.
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Traded my 23 tundra in for a 24 Silverado. Wow. Silverado no wind noise or issues with windows, doors, trim...no issues with speakers or crappy tech...so much more solid. PLUS they give you 100,000 mile warranty on the powermax engine. So happy to get out of that big recall
The wind noise was awful in the 2022 Tundras I test drove. The 1794 trim I drove had engine oil or transmission fluid dripping under it when we got back to the dealer. That was the end of that. I feel like I dodged a bullet with all the engine and transmission problems with that truck.
I traded my 2022 Tundra for a Titan 4ProX after the recall and other quality control issues. Super happy with my decision. I feel at ease when going camping without having to worry about driving a ticking bomb.
Almost went with the Titan but the one I test drove would creep when I put the brakes on. The dealer told me it would go away with time but I just didn't want to chance it. But it was a nice army green really cool
How long is your travel trailer my dad has a 2007 trd off road crew max tundra and we pulled a 35 foot travel trailer with it with no problem so how can you say no tundra from 2007 on up was able to work for you
@@nickforest7816 it's the math on the payload. It Will do it, but it will be over payload. You can't put 1200 lbs of tongue weight plus 500 lbs of people and not overload the payload capacity of 1300 lbs. People do it, but that is not a number I am willing to grossly exceed.
Thanks for watching.
@jeremsgarage are you talking about when you carry stuff in the truck bed plus pulling the camper your basically saying it's overloaded it may be it's only me and my mom and dad in the truck we carry some stuff in the bed and pull the camper we've never had any problems if your so worried about it get yourself a dually diesel truck
I had a 2017 Titan, and it was good truck as well. I have more room to move in my 2023 Tundra. I have heard of possible transmission issues with the newer Titans, but seems to be the one with the diesel motor. 2024 is the last year for the Titan as well. I hope you are able to get parts when you need them if you need them.
Tundras are for Getting Grocery. Ford and Chevrolet are for getting the job done . I can say with a lot of accuracy that you will not see many Tundras building our American infrastructure. Japan can keep there Toyotas 👌
Thank you for watching!
Got a 2023 Silverado in the 2.7 high out put and love it. First Chevy truck ive owned. Always was a Ford F150 guy but hey, dont regret it.😂
How is the cylinder Deactivation onI it ?
Good to hear! I'd like to get a HO. Mine is a pre refresh model, but it does so good for what I ask of it. Thanks for watching!
Ford has gotten crazy with prices. I got a 2024 Silverado LTZ with the 3L diesel for $9k less than my Ford dealer was willing to offer for a 2024 Lariat with the tow package. What happened to the days when a Lariat was just a couple thousand more than an XLT. You'd almost think it was a Platinum trim judging by prices.
Just got my new 2024 Silverado 2.7 I really like it runs and drives awesome ! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. 👍
Good report. You chose based on your needs. I was raised on Chevy, but I drive a Tundra. But I don't pull stuff like that.
got my tundra in 2011 and now we got 2019 tundra trd pro. Any tundra before this new junk v6 twin turbo came out is perfect.
Still have our 2011. :O)
@@hujek111111 great trucks! I've got to do some more research on the new V6 models. Lots of folks in the comments on this video are saying the same thing.
I have a 2023 Toyota Tundra, and I love it!! I have a Forest River Grey Wolf 26 foot trailer, and it pull this trailer with ease. I have also pulled the largest U-haul trailer loaded to the gills from Ohio to Idaho, and it pulled that with no problem, even on the big hill on I-80. I have had a few minor things happen with mine, and for the most part, it has been a wonderful vehicle. I have not experienced the many issues that other Tundra owners have. I have not had wind noise, no issues with seals or the tech, including the sound system. My only issue is a design flaw with the seat control cover that cracks over time. I wonder why mine is different from those that have had all the issue in the last comment. I had a 2020 Tundra before that, and it was a great truck as well.
I just test drove a 2024 Sierra with this engine. I loved it. I came home to check out the engine and found your channel. I was concerned about the injector problem you had but it seems like it is resolved. So three questions. 1. Have you had any other serious problems with the engine? 2. Did you buy your extended warranty when you bought the vehicle or later and what company did you use? 3. How often are your changing your oil? I love your channel.
I commend you sir! One of the few that understands how important payload is!!
@@fishingismydrug1 thank you! I am trying to teach folks just how important it is. There are 3/4 ton trucks that only have about 1500 lbs of payload. (Looking at you Ram 2500 Mega Cab). Payload is so very important. Thanks for watching!
Yes sir! Most 3/4 ton diesel’s have the same, or even less, payload capacity than the average 1/2 ton, with a V8 gasser.
When we had our travel trailer, I watched episodes from big truck big rv. He, and a tt forum I was on, opened my eyes to how important payload is.
It is the single most overlooked thing, when it comes to vehicles, for loading/towing.
Wow! Somebody that actually pays attention to Payload capacity. I see many trucks/ trailer combos that are obviously over payload/ over axle ratings. Good for you! Hope you have great travels in your Chevy.
@@johnharper2016 thank you! Yes the payload is very important to me. One of the most critical numbers IMHO.
Hey bud. Really like your channel.
Friendly fyi, first two tundra engines to hit 1m were 4.7 from the 1st gen! 👍
That's right! Thanks for the reminder about those first gens! Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!
Do you feel that the Silverado seats feel hard? The outside looks alright but the seats felt uncomfortable compared to the Express/Savana vans I drove for work in the past despite being almost a 30 year old design. I ended up buying a Ram 2500 Cummins partly due to the seats just being more comfortable and the upholstery being softer than the Silverado.
Best dealership I found to deal with has been toyota by far , great customer service and very friendly another reason I only buy toyota and I'm very happy with my 2024 toyota tundra trd off road
Here’s a question for this comment thread….. money aside, is the GMC Sierra > Chevy Silverado? If you have the same options on both engine, drivetrain, cab configuration and same trim levels. Is there a reason other than appearance to buy the GMC?
I did the same as you. I test drove a Tundra - beautiful truck, drove nice. But we have a travel trailer and payload is everything. Also the local Toyota dealer thinks his trucks are made of gold with the huge dealer markups - at least until the engine fiasco. As with any engine, oil change intervals are key to long life. Never let mine go beyond 4,000 miles. Good luck with yours.
I live in Boise Idaho and there was two different newer Tundras about 20 mi apart from each other broke down on the side of the road with campers. you wonder.
Sad day for them. I hope Toyota gets these new Tundra's squared away. They are losing their reputation fast!
The key with Turbo engines are frequent oil changes (5k) and letting the Turbo cool by idling before shutting down.
I bought a Tundra Platinum in Orangeville Ontario. Truck was perfect. But the dealer deliberately damaged the paint $4500.00 CDN to collect warranty. Some dealers are not honest.
That is terrible! Those new Tundra Platinums are so nice.
I picked up a 24 a couple months ago, before that I had a 5.0 f150 that was plagued with problems. I give props to the 2.7 for just chugging along pulling my 6,000lb travel trailer
It's kind of amazing how it pulls at low RPM at highway speed. Love towing with mine.
Change the oil more often than the oil life meter and you'll be good to go.
In 2008 I tried to buy a tundra but when I went to pick it up the financing was through chrysler credit for a high %. My credit is great so this was a surprise. Never seriously looked at Toyota again.
Chrysler Credit for a Toyota?
@@dav8388that doesn't make any sense. At all. If he had said Toyota financial services I would've believed it. If you were buying used at a Chrysler dealer I would think they'd use another bank or credit union.
I've got about 1800km on my 2.7 HO Canyon, love it. If it sounded like a V8 you would never be able to tell the difference!
Chevy likes to Rust and I’m not sure about the 4 cylinder. I almost bought a trail boss fully loaded with the baby Duramax Came in damaged a lot of body work so at that time I already waited 6 months for it and it didn’t work out. I love the look of the chevy though.
I've heard that. Here in the SE it can be a problem but not if you take decent care of them. They all rust given enough time. Except for the newer Fords that had Aluminum bodies.
No 5.7 Tundra has gone a million miles yet. The payload numbers were abysmal and usually closer to 1300 lbs for crewmax trucks. Not very good at towing, they took the transmission coolers out a few years ago. That's why you don't see them used for towiing.
@@4wd4Life-xs3id thanks for the information! Why in the world would they remove the transmission coolers? That would be the very first thing I added!
@@jeremsgarage Every company decontents over the life of their product. The last generation had a 15 year run. They decided along the way that most people were not towing heavy enough to need them and then "upgraded" the transmission fluid. Those folks who were towing heavy quickly found out it wasn't cutting it with the deletion.
Chevy for the win👍. I'm in a ram now but next year trading for a Chevy 2500 gas or a GMC whatever I can find
They are really good trucks! The 6.6l gas is fantastic. If you are close, Donahoo Chevy in Alabama has great prices.
@@jeremsgarage Good to know! I'm in VA, I wonder if they ship? Yeah the 6.6L gas is my choice. It doesn't have cylinder deactivation and I don't want the headache of a diesel. EPA has ruined modern diesels.
The reality for me is GM is American and union made. Having worked in the auto industry, I can say with certainty that it matters.
Great comment! One of the only regrets I have is that when I bought this truck I didn't realize I could get a USA made version vs a Mexican built version. I assumed mine was USA made but it was a Mexican build. They did a great job but it would mean more to me if it was USA built.
@@jeremsgarage yes. GM is sneaky about that. If the VIN starts with a 1 or 5, it's American made.
One interesting fact is that if you look at reports of how American vehicles are, the Ridgeline is the most American truck inside the top 10. The most American full size is the Tundra at #12 and Ram 1500 is #28.
@@Drg24800 The Colorado and Canyon are in the top ten. All are made in Wentzville, Missouri outside of St. Louis and the domestic parts content is around 85%. The Tundra is made in Texas but domestic parts content has fallen by like 30% over the last 10 years. GM fullsize trucks get screwed by rankings because there are three plants making half-tons, one in Canada, one in Indiana, and one in Mexico. The plant in Indiana makes crew cab Silverado 1500's and Sierra 1500's. The plant in Mexico makes a mix of regular cab, extended cab, and crew cab 1500's. GM's heavy duty Silverado and Sierras are all made in Michigan. Because their half-ton production is spread across 3 countries, they always get hurt in the "most American lists". My 2024 Silverado 1500 3L diesel was built in Fort Wayne, Indiana with both the engine and transmission built in the US.
The Titan, is/was, as or more, “American “ made than most. As well as the frontier.
2.7 with AFM turbo no way in hades I would even think about it, Titan 5.6l V-8 yes
Good luck with the 2.7l turbo 4!! A co-worker bought one 3 months ago. Didn’t even make it home before the engine grenaded . He’s still waiting to get it back.
Yes, sorry about that. There are always a few who have a bad experience with any engine. Most techs I talk to hardly see the 2.7l for anything but routine maintenance.
Titan by Nissan is the best all around truck for a price that isn't stupid. Tundra second.
Lmao u got jokes
@@terryhook5518 No it really is a Boss truck .
@@user-ni4ui1ck2nI think he was referring to you saying the Tundra is second best. Don’t know what’s great about a truck being plagued with a litany of problems. The Titan however is a criminally underrated truck and Nissan shouldn’t have discontinued it after 2024.
@@brianmola711nobody bought it, that's why it's being discontinued. They even had a Cummins option, same problem.
That 2.7 is not gonna last more then 150-200k I own a gmc 2023 with it and it’s got torque but as far as reliability and power I regret not going with the 5.3 or the 3.0 Duramax that I really wanted
Thanks for the comment. People keep moving the goal posts on this engine. When I first got it it wouldn't make it to 20k, then 30k, then 60k. 😂. There are TONS and TONS of these trucks working every day with well north of 200k.
What problems have you had with the 2.7?
How can you prove that it will only last 150 to 200k mi?
I have the 6.2l what a beast 2024
@@Holden-McGroin The only issue I had was an injector failure. So far, that is the only issue I have had. We are about to cross 60k miles, so I am anticipating some issues/maintenance as I approach 100k miles. Thanks for watching!
That's why I would never get rid off my 2002 f150 lightning over 270 thousand miles all original engine right down to the alternator and starter
Great trucks!
I don't care what any Toyota owners say about their trucks. The resale on a used Toyota anything is stupid ridiculous. I see Tacos with 400,000 kms + and owners think their made of gold and still asking a arm/leg for a high mileage worn out POS!. It's more about maintenance and how it was drivin. I've own several Toyotas in the past and parts wear out like anything else. Sure the motor will last 4-5 hundred thousand kms, but everything else wear out and needs to be replaced, just like any other vehicle. Maintenance is the key!
It is the same here in Tennessee too. Anything Toyota is commanding a premium price. For some reason people just believe in them. They all need similar wear components at 200k plus. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Best deal right now? Nissan titan
If you ever get close to 100000 miles without that turbo crapping out, that would be a miracle.
@@robertbergeron9877 these engines are about to year 7. No systemic turbo failures or other issues.
I had a Chevy in the past and the Silverado was the 1st half ton truck we testdrove it and my wife and I both did not like how it rode. I bought the Tundra and I am very happy. Yes, the payload is less than 1200 but this is a half ton truck. If I needed more payload, I would have bought a 3/4 or 1 ton truck.
Nice! You did what fit your situation best. My wife and I test drove a 3/4 ton Chevy a few weeks ago. I really like how my truck rides. 😆
@@jeremsgarageAbsolutely! The Chevy Silverado is one of the best-looking 1/2 ton trucks, and I'm glad you love it. When it comes to choosing a vehicle, I always consider all the brands to find the best fit for my needs. While I'm not particularly loyal to any one brand, I do have preferences: I'm a big fan of Toyota for trucks and mid-size SUVs, and I prefer Honda for small cars.
If you really want a great motor the 6.0 gas gm is always going to be king we have put over 600000 on some with no problems a water pump and throttle body is it I ope the 6.6 gas will be as good
@@danthompson1467 the 6.6l is on my short list for my next truck. I test drove one a few weeks ago. Very nice. The Turbo power will be missed when that day comes.
The new Tundra is GARBAGE! I had never driven something so cheap and plasticky and the sheet metal is almost pop can thin. They are having tons of reliability issues as well.
I keep hearing that! I am going to go research the new ones some more. I studied the 07 and up model so much back in the day, I wanted one so bad. I hope Toyota gets the new ones squared away. Thanks for sharing your experience and watching!
I would rather rebuild a Ram w250 Cummins than buy anything new.
Those are great trucks! Nothing wrong with that plan at all.
you could not sell me either of these trucks, when i buy a truck i plan to keep it for at least 300000 miles with out any major problems, good luck.
So what truck would that be?
@@sthier24 looks like if i was in the market for a half ton truck it would be the F150 with the V8, my ram 1500 hemi pulls a 5000 lb boat with ease, and when not towing gets as good or better mpg than the small turbos out there.
Toyota will be just fine
lol no they wont
Sure they will. They will eventually get it sorted. Every manufacturer has issues, Toyota has had a lot fewer than the others.
All Tundras have very low payload numbers.
It's sad because they are good trucks.
Never a rice burner for me lol
A 4 cylinder engine is to small to be used in a full size truck.
@@John-hj6cv incorrect. This is upcoming model year 6 for this engine. 430 lb ft of torque and over 9,000 lb tow rating. This engine was built from the ground up for truck use and is arguably the most reliable truck engine Chevy has right now in the half tons.
The highput Silverado is better than the one u have
Oh yea it is! Stronger crank, block, and more TQ. If I do 9k with ease with this one, the new HO Turbomax should be much better!
Wouldnt take that unless it was free.
Poor soul
Been driven. Is one thing Towing is another. Towing a 8,000 pound trailer the motors are junk at 125,000 miles. Good luck.
I hope to test that theory. I know of several owners who have trucks in the 200k mile range that pull a trailer every day with hardly any issues. The 8 speed is a weak point.
no resale value
I do not care about resale value. When I am done with this truck if I get 5k for it I will be more than happy. Hopefully at 300k plus miles.
That 2.7 Chevy engine is junk, who puts a cylinder deactivation on a 4 banger, only chevy can do that, My buddy already has issues with that 2.7 with multiple warranty visits, PASS
@@cessealbeach I own a high output Sierra 2.7 elevation and yes wiring harness melted and trans issues all under 8,000 miles 8 speed trans shifts hard misses shifts and downshifts like getting rear ended
Why would anyone purchase a truck with a 2.7 and pull a light tin and stick trailer? Can’t wait to see a video on one of these trucks when pulling a 6% grade hill at 5 thousand feet elevation. Don’t know why anyone would do a video and whine about nothing. Nobody cares what ya buy or like. Just about all the truck manufacturers are experiencing stupid stuff that should have never left the factory. Plus anyone who spends 60-100 thousand dollars for a $50,000 truck to include this ridiculous interest rate, needs to seek professional help. But who I’m I? Just experienced a little more of things one doesn’t do to get a head financially in this bidenomics train wreck.
Who sit and comments on a video with no real feedback other than their own personal preference . And you have no idea what he paid for the truck or what kind of interest rate . What do you drive and what do you pull??
Toyota Tundra = blown engines.
Yea, those new V6 turbos are having some serious problems.
@jeremsgarage 4 banger turbo tacoma is now too.
5.7L V8 FTW
But seriously...this is why you don't buy the first model years of anything
824 total new v6 tundra warranty claims on engines. out 500,000 sold. It's in the investigation report I made a video about it. that's less than 1%
@@371kennyoh? You have any proof of that? I'm genuinely curious.
Go right ahead, lol! You may want to get up to speed first...
Lol. I've got 10k of these miles towing that beast all over the place. I'm not worried about it at all.
Was referring to purchasing the new twin turbo Tundra crap.. Toyota builds like 1/10th the trucks that GM does in a year and they can't even get it right with that low quantity.
Never drove a Tundra. Never will. Will never buy anything no made in USA. Never
I do understand the sentiment. But to be fair to the Tundra, it is made in Texas. I thought my truck was made in USA but come to find out it was made in Mexico.
I’m looking hard for my next truck but I’m it’s not easy. A Silverado is stretching the budget to tight so I started to look harder at a Chevy Colorado. Then I saw a WT with the 2.7 with 237 hp and started to crunch numbers. It’s only 51% made in USA. The price difference to get the turbo max , the towing package and what you need to add to get it is over $3000 more. It’s rated for 7700 lbs which does it for me but I really feel left out. Is it really going to do what I want? Do I really need to spend an extra $9000 and get a half ton? I’m incapable of making that decision so I’m hunting for inspiration from videos like yours. Thanks
A 2.7 liter engine in a full size truck is ridiculous. Turbo or no turbo. Car companies need to listen to consumers not woke government jackasses.
@@russellb.6785 yea, 430 lb ft of torque, diesel like performance, great mpg, excellent pulling power. But we all know that only the liter count matters. 🙄Thanks for watching.
Unfortunately idk why , but mine (2.7 gmc Sierra/same engine as the Chevy)
But mine had the engine replaced shy of the 100k mile mark due to a misfire and the dealership saying they would need to tear it down to find out why it’s misfiring
Thankfully I have the extended warranty on the truck (6yr warranty-until 2027 unlimited miles)
But prior to that issue the only small issues that occurred was the purge vale failing along with both the engine & transmission oil control valves failing and remaining in the opened position & went through two radiators bc for some odd reason they were leaking
Other than that it is a great engine but idk if I simply got a bad engine from the start
Bc I made sure to change out the engine oil every 5k and @90k I replaced the spark plugs(manual says to do so if it’s the turbo 2.7 if it is the V8 5.3 100k miles is the suggested replacement time frame)
Truck now sits at 106,286 miles and no issues but I remain doing the 5k oil change intervals
@@jeremsgaragetruck guys are some of the biggest doofuses on the planet.
Brand loyalty is always dumb. I've had 2 Chevy Colorados but if Ford comes out with something I like I am getting it. I care about these car companies as much as they care about me.
Caring more about the number of cylinders and how it sounds are two of the dumbest reasons to buy a vehicle. Yeah V8s sound pretty cool but it really should be down towards the bottom of features that truly matter. Hell, it's below massaging seats.
Seeing things like big ass wheels with rubber band tires with off road treads and lifting these vehicles into the sky. Oh and the Carolina squat.
Ridiculous.
Technology has changed what engines need to be to perform their expected tasks. Maybe it's time to come out from under that rock.
Anyone buying these new under powered trucks, jeeps, etc, towing hauling, will find out in a few years they don't hold up.
Under powered? 430 lb ft of torque and over 300 hp? Small displacement, yes. Under powered? No, I can pull this trailer well in excess of the speed limit with ease. The Ford 3.5 Ecoboost is even more powerful. Those trucks have been around for like 13 years and are well proven. I appreciate you watching and commenting, but they are not under powered. Not even close.
This comment is from someone who has never driven a truck with one of these engines.
New tundra is by far the ugliest full size on the road! And so much cheap plastic !
Yea, I'm not a big fan of it either.
My goodness that 2.7 is going to be screaming high rpms to pull a load like that. You're gonna wish for the 5.7 naturally asperated reliable V8.
Totally wrong. It pulls at 70 MPH at about 2200 rpm. My other V8's would scream to high heaven all the time. This just hunkers down and goes. I've got over 10k miles towing travel trailer with this truck.
Isnt the 2.7 a stroked motor hence the torque curve just perfect for towing?
@lesterpenner8786 This is the problem with the comments about these engines. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. The 2.7L runs lower rpms across the board than the 5.3L. It drives like a diesel with unbelievable torque between 1500 and 3000 rpm.
2.7 pulls great this clown doesn't tow anything and probably has a hitch for his electric bike 😂
Toyota is not Toyota any more from 2022 till now is not reliable, I just to own a 2007 and 2014 Tundra but this time decided to go 2023 Silverado 1500 Duramax Diesel 3.0L
It's pretty sad to see Toyota quality go down. I hope your 3.0 Diesel serves you well!
Yeah, Toyota Tundra will do everything where you asked for to do overloading it doesn’t matter still will do it, but forgot your hypocrite
@@raulbueno4284 nice ad homenim there. Have a good day.
@@jeremsgarage just saying hypocrite
@@raulbueno4284 I am not. I actually do what I say. I tow a 36 ft travel trailer with this truck and have documented it on this channel. I even gave props to the Tundra on this very video. Where is my acting. That's what a hypocrite is, an actor. Point it out and If you are right I will correct it.
@@jeremsgarage bro I have a 38 foot gooseneck trailer I have a 2005 and I pull with it. I tow up to 15,000 pounds with Tundra here in Colorado and it pulls better than the diesel truck.
@@raulbueno4284 😂
Toyota gatbage compant.
We have one of those in our family and it is the biggest piece of shit so many things have gone wrong with the truck. I would rather push a Toyota with a blowing engine.
You know the funniest thing you guys are hypocrites hypocrites, but you know the funniest thing I have a 2005 Tundra perform your truck you’re hypocrites
Again, a hypocrite is an actor. Tell me how "we" are acting. I have nothing bad to say about your 2005 Tundra. Great trucks, but they are not up to the same capability as the 07 and up Tundra's. Even Toyota went through great strides in 2007 to point out the upgrades and it's 10,000 lb tow rating.
Example
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@@jeremsgarage that doesn’t matter, they use the same frame the same axles the same hitch. Everything’s the same man I’ve been in Mechanic for 10 years.
Best dealership I found to deal with has been toyota by far great customer service and very friendly and I'm very happy with my 2024 toyota tundra trd off road
@@ivanhamlyn I wish that were the case around here. Our dealerships selling Toyotas are very unfriendly.