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The Synod's Instrumentum Laboris & Women's Dignity

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2023
  • The statements of the Instrumentum Laboris of the Synod on Synodality reveal a view of women that equates baptismal dignity with power.
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  • @albieinangelus921
    @albieinangelus921 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was married during the early 70s. Everything we live now is because of the "norm" of the 70s and feminism. To God be the glory that we are still Catholic in the midst of all this confusion.

    • @francikeen
      @francikeen ปีที่แล้ว

      Americans are so ignorant they replace original sin, fallen human nature, and the 7 deadly sins, with their hatred of women's equal rights, feminism, while they exonerate the common male vices that preceded feminism by millennia: drunkenness, drug abuse, domestic abuse, neglect, greed, egotism, gambling, pornography, adultery and criminality.
      The only ones paying attention to feminism are conservative males who blame it for all of society's problems because they are afraid to teach or correct their own peers, other men, so they grift for likes by blaming women and exonerating men. #BlameAWoman

  • @stephenhosking7384
    @stephenhosking7384 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm glad that somebody addressed this.
    As a Catholic convert of forty years I've seen that the church is mostly run by women.
    Women dominate parish life, particularly in liturgy and music. I've been on these committees and seen that women:
    1. Are ferocious in getting what they want. They form a powerful lobby which then intimidates the priest. Curiously, the women who make the decisions are often distinct from the women (and men) who do the work, such as flower arrangement, gardening, mass preparation. They almost look down upon the workers. If anyone outside the lobby attempts to suggest a change they are definitely not "listened" to.
    A vivid example: The women in my parish discussed the times for morning Mass. Some thought 9:00 was "too early", others "too late", so they compromised on 9:15. They were only thinking about their personal convenience. No-one thought about the men who want a short, early Mass, say 6:30 AM, before work. I suspect that this is where all the 6:30 and 7:00 AM Masses from yesteryear have gone. Why would a woman get out of bed early for that?
    2. Do not care about men at all. It's well known that men have trouble with congregational singing, so need music which is simple in structure and range. Nevertheless, the women music leaders choose flowery, complex music in a high range, with vapid sentiments. They couldn't care less that 90% of the men don't participate at all. They like this music, and that's all that matters.
    3. Are able to get away with it because they have the time. While their husbands are at work they are organising amongst themselves. They say "If you don't like it, then turn up to the meetings", but such is difficult for working men. I was only able to do it after I was divorced. I did turn up, and for ten years, and found that my contributions were not wanted. I was always on my own against the women's lobby.
    Then, we get to the diocesan management. This is all women - and women on high salaries.
    Similarly for the major charities, such as St Vincent De Paull and Caritas. Many of the volunteers are men, but the professional management are mostly women.
    The Catholic education system also provides much of the Church leadership. Again, mostly women. (As identified by in the video).
    This female "heirarchy", of parish workers, diocesan management, professional charities, and Catholic eduction, is the powerful parallel heirarchy within the church, and who our foolish male clergy usually defer to. We now have the ludicrous position where they claim that women are "marginalised" (sic) and need MORE representation in the Church!
    Giving full credit to the many women who have tried to say that, "as women", they are happy with their position in the Church, and feel respected and able to contribute. Theirs are women's "voices" which are not wanted. (I saw their contributions expunged from the Synod preparations of the Australian bishops).
    And, does the IL want to hear from men? Ie. lay men who pay the bills and are the demographic in society which is truly "marginalised", discriminated against, exploited and suffering. Hah... silly question. It's assumed that an all-male clergy somehow means that "men have all the power".
    ps. I liked your skeptical comment about the "alleged" synodal process, which claimed to be bottom up. Yah! In my forty years in the RCC the concerns I've heard most from lay Catholics have been: the desertion of the faith by children, divorce and family breakdown, weak Catechisis, liturgical concerns (progessives want more changes, conservatives want the opposite), parish community life, bringing back those who have left the faith, etc.. Only a tiny number of "progessives" have mentioned the "position of women", or any the rest of the agenda which has been foisted on us since 2020.

  • @MrsYasha1984
    @MrsYasha1984 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Btw, love your calm style!

  • @marya9039
    @marya9039 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s a pity that the beautiful role of Teachings Nuns in schools has nearly vanished. In these later years, I realize how blessed I was to have had loving, beautiful women, Franciscan Sisters, teaching me daily till 8th grade. Although there was daily morning Holy Mass, I only remember “teaching” from the priests on Sunday. These sisters were a powerful presence in my life but sadly heavily influenced by Feminism in the later 60s.

    • @genemyersmyers6710
      @genemyersmyers6710 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mary I'm 72 and I had nuns for teachers and I would not have had it any other way ,God Bless those servants of God.

  • @MrsYasha1984
    @MrsYasha1984 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where I'm home, in switzerland, the push for 'more women!' Is really strong.
    Our bishop Felix Gmür is under constant attack on this issue, his stance is 'if the vatican decides to let women be deaconesses, I won't stand in the way' but that is not enough, since he won't actively work towards it.
    The Church in switzerland is dying. Me and my husband are usually the only middle aged people there. My children are usually the only children apart from the altar servers.
    Not even the parents of the altar servers show up!
    The masses are thought inducing and beautiful. So it's not that... I think swiss people have had it so good that the awakening that seems to coming around the world, has not yet rooted here.
    My own 'awakening' was 2021, so I'm hopeful God will turn this around.
    But the push for more women seems to be an effect of boomer generation people, steeped in second wave feminism and a more cultural understanding of the faith. Why should the Church not 'get with the times?' They don't seem to see what kind of pandoras box this would open.
    However, God will provide.

    • @uscatholicam
      @uscatholicam  ปีที่แล้ว

      I pray for your country, your children, and your families!

    • @MrsYasha1984
      @MrsYasha1984 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! That means much to me!

    • @markwalkerrocker4Jesus
      @markwalkerrocker4Jesus ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't need deaconesses, we need to return to the True Faith, Synod for Synodality is unnecessary...

  • @BalthasarCarduelis
    @BalthasarCarduelis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the secular principalities raised women to positions of power, they had the plausible ignorance defence, The Assemblywomen notwithstanding. If the Church follows the world, with a century or more of the degeneration of baptismal dignity before us as plain evidence, with an indelible mark for extra torture in Hell at best and absolute apostasy and deprivation of catechesis for the offspring who survive infanticide at worst, ignorance cannot be feigned.

  • @carolinafine8050
    @carolinafine8050 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much more do they want women to do? Almost every church I go to they are all of the extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist. They are all over the parish office. They regularly do the non-Gospel readings. What else is there aside from deacons and priests?

  • @estebanmoeller
    @estebanmoeller ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it true that the IL doesnt mention Mary?

    • @uscatholicam
      @uscatholicam  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @estebanmoeller it mentions her once in the Foreword, but what I meant in the video is that it doesn't mention her in the section about women's dignity, where reference to her would have been especially fitting.