The Traditional Latin Mass Isn't About Latin!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- A response to those who think that the reason Traditional Catholics want the Latin Mass is because of some fixation about the Latin language.
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Referenced:
John XXIII Veterum Sapientia: www.papalencyclicals.net/john...
Cardinal Roche on "New Theology": onepeterfive.com/cardinal-roc...
Joseph Ratzinger, Foreword to Klaus Gamber, La Reforme liturgique en question (Le Barroux: Editions sainte-Madeleine, 1992), 7
I usually tell these people, "Yeah, and Jesus didn't speak English either!!!!" Unbelievable. As if God couldn't speak any language He wanted.
The Mass Of The Ages. Truly a divine way to worship Jesus Christ. It’s eternal and crushes modernism with its holiness
I grew up in the 50’s and 60”s and it never occurred to me until now that I never said I was going to the Latin mass…… I was just going to mass! No reason to point out it was Latin….
Thank you! The fruits of rejection of the traditional Latin rite over the past six decades are clearly visible.
The mass is not good because it’s old, it’s old because it’s good!
As one who served as “Server” at Mass 1945-1961, I learned the prayers in the Mass in Latin. We were instructed that the prayers in Latin in the prayer books were in a “frozen” language (not subject to colloquial changes) , and in the prayer books both - Latin and ENGLISH were on opposite pages of the books. So the meaning of the words prayed in the Mass were not changing to meet/idiomatic language that changes word meaning over time. The main teachable point is that prayer intention was frozen, in a meaning of love/reverence/homage to God offered up to God by the consecrated priest and altar server.
💥 this is what I’ve been saying! Thank you as always for your explanation! 🎉
The NO and the TLM are both valid and beautiful forms of the mass of the Roman Rite. The speakers bad mouthing the Novo Ordo by taking Pope Benedict’s statements out of context is shameful.
It’s the mass of the ages. It’s not modernist.
My grandmother came to live after her wedding in an erstwhile Portuguese colony. She was the wife of an upholstery shop owner, yet as she was indigenous, had to sit at the back of the Portuguese Church on the floor while the Upper class colonisers and their mixed progeny would sit in the pews in the front of the altar. The mass used to be in Latin and not being able to understand it she and her community members would say the Rosary till Mass ended. It's only after VatI and II when the Bible, Lectern and Liturgy were translated to vernacular languages did they understand what Mass was all about. But not knowing Latin didn't effect their faith because faith itself is a gift from God and when Jesus called out to His Father on the Cross, he spoke in Aramaic not in Hebrew, the language of scripture. So whereas the Latin Mass should not be banned completely as it is the original language of Church liturgy, it should not be enforced or forced on the laity who do not follow it.
This video is amazing thank you so much. Long live the Traditional Mass.
I get the same objections, especially “the Latin mass was invented at Trent” or something like that
Exceptional!
Maybe it's our fault for calling it the TLM. More correctly, it's the traditional mass or Vetus Ordo; old order.
The latan mass is about a whole lot more!!!
I have only gotten to attend TLM one time in 5 years being Catholic. It is not about the language. In my life I have never experienced anything like it. There was a reverence an awareness of something holy taking place. I would love to have the option. “Going to church” for anything other than engaging God in true worship which requires a sacrifice is simply a get together, not worship.
The Second Vatican Council instructed that all existing forms of the Liturgy were to be reverenced, respected and preserved. It was the intention of the Council that the existing form of the Mass should include the vernacular, with the intention that the congregation would then be more closely involved, saying the responses instead of just listening while the Altar Servers said the responses. This was the aim of the reforms. There was no instruction to introduce a new form of Liturgy, nor to remove any parts of the existing Liturgy. Then with the enthusiasm for ecumenism which followed the Council, a decision was made to prepare a new form the the Mass, which would be more acceptable to Protestants. So, a Committee was set up, which included Protestants and their wishes were taken into account. The Protestants did not like the “Prayers at the Foot of the Altar” (because they consider that it is a communion table, not an Altar) so these had to be removed on their instructions. Then, they did not like the Last Gospel, because many Protestants espouse one form or another of the Arian heresy and they do not believe that the eternal Word is Jesus, but that it is the Sacred Scriptures. So, on their instructions, the Last Gospel was removed. Then, they insisted upon the Prayer to the Archangel Michael being removed, of course, since they did not like the idea of asking Michael being asked to protect the Church from error and heresy, naturally enough! Then, their wishes to “water down” the Canon of the Mass were partially successful. The succeeded in having the words of the consecration of the wine altered to “shed for you and for all” (as many on the Committee espoused the Universalist heresy) but, after about forty years of this error, Pope Benedict XVI did, finally, put his foot down and restore the correct wording. The Roman Canon was preserved as Eucharistic Prayer I, and was, for many years, used, particularly on the “Roman” feasts, St Peter and Paul, the Chair of St Peter, the Dedication of St John Lateran etc., however, I understand that most Bishops have now instructed the Clergy that it is to be discretely retired from use, as it is seen as offensive to Protestants. Of the three other Eucharistic Prayers, almost all of the Clergy now simply choose the shortest of them, without ever considering which might be more appropriate to the particular feast, as was originally intended. What is surprising, after all of this bending over backwards to please the Protestants, is that those Protestants who have come into the Church recently have done so because they love the certainty which the Tridentine form of the Mass offers and they tend to seek out the Tridentine Mass for this reason.
In fairness, I do get pretty happy when my Novus Ordo parish at least prays the Agnus Dei in Latin. Kinda like a potato chip given to a starving man. But I get your point and agree 100%.
Thank you for this! God bless! 🙏🙏🙏
When I described the Traditional Latin Mass as the Vetus Ordo Mass as against the Novus Ordo Mass, a lot of people do not know or are unfamiliar with the term Vetus Ordo.