I absolutely love the character of Tristan, but I fully expected him to point out the fact that Tristan took his helmet off to do battle with Cerdic only to immediately get slashed in the neck. Like, poor boy, that's what the helmet is for.
I liked Tristan too, only problem is that he went all movie consistently showing himself to be the Good Will Hunting of generally being awesome and seemed almost invincible. Whereas Cedric didnt do anything Then he loses, which had to happen for the plot since Arthur needed some personal revenge boner. I just didnt really believe Tristan could lose, would have helped to show Stellan being a melee beast but the Saxxons never actually had anyone to fight until the end I guess.
Studio Execs- "Hey Mads, do you want to be an expert with a Chinese sword, a falconer, a great archer, or a guy who can seemingly teleport?" Mads- "Yes."
He's the best. His eyes are also the best. Also he's a druid and can use the bird's sight as his own. Also he's actually a robot - a robot druid with super eyes.
Let's break it down, shall we? No archer can sight in and shoot in the span of one draw motion, it would take incredible strength and formal training to shoot an arrow that distance, he would have had to account for any wind over the wall, the tree was obscuring his target, and his target should have seen the archer drawing, thus giving him a LOT of time to evade that arrow.
It didn't even look like he pulled the string back enough for that arrow to go a quarter of the distance, the arrow moved way too slowly to travel that distance at that angle, the archer had to have x-ray vision to see the target through the wall, the target had to have x-ray vision to have been doing anything meaningful up there, it's a miracle it didnt hit any branch, and it's a miracle the guy didnt see it.
Actually - a bishop having military skills is the one seemingly insane thing that actually has historical basis. Although this was more strongly in practice amoung German bishops, but even small Anglo monastic communities needed to fend off the Vik, Danes and Norse. The orders took many duties, prayer being featured, but some recognized warfare as defense of the flock and relics. Check out the Song of Roland, which features the bloodthirsty tactician Archbishop Turpin.
Actually, in the books Tristram, in addition to being the only knight who could stand toe-to-toe with Lancelot, was first in hunting, harping and in hawking. He's one of the closest to his legendary form of the entire movie.
I'm getting a PhD in early medieval history (just, you know, so I look like an expert here). This movie is a perennial 'bad favorite' of mine. A lot of it is an attempt to make an Arthur movie based on actual theories about the historical Arthur. It's a joke, but some of these sins aren't as bad as you make them sound. Sin 10: The Sarmatians were semi-nomadic steppe people, kind of like the Huns. They didn't have agriculture but migrated regularly across the vast grasslands north of the Black Sea. Sin 32: The 'Woads' are basically the Picts, who lived in northern Britain and were never under Roman rule. They raided across the border constantly, especially as Roman rule in Britain came to an end. That's the context for the battle. Sin 33: Tristan isn't supposed to be 'from' southern Britain (he's clearly from 'the East')--not that that makes his character any less ridiculous. Sin 34: There's a hole in the linen curtain in the carriage, which is where the arrow entered. Sin 37: Bishops were often very happy to lead troops into battle and crack some heads, until the later when the practice was banned by the church. Sin 38: The Woads are not native English, they are indigenous Picts performing cross-border raids. Sin 41: Sarmacist, not Salmacist. Sin 46: Bors's wife is asking why he's late. Sin 67: The dude is a traitor to his own people because he's feeding information to the Saxons. Sin 74: You would only close the gate to a fortified town at night and if an attack was immanent. Now we just need a whole video to deal with the historical inaccuracies.
The "Woads" were actually on the side of the Saxons at this time, trying to attack the Britons. Bishop Germanus is Saint Germaine of Auxerre who had been a Roman general before he was elected as a bishop. One of his most famous proteges was St. Patrick of Ireland. When St. Germaine came to Britain to settle the problem of the heresy of Pelagianism (the heresy they have Arthur love, and which they misrepresent horribly), he was asked to help the Britons fight the Saxon and Pict army (Woads). He agreed to lead them, but led them into what is known as the Alleluia victory. He had the Britons all baptized and then while still "wet behind the ears" (i.e. still wet from baptism), he led them in singing Alleluia in a mountain pass. The echo of the song made it sound like there was a huge army surrounding the Saxons and Picts, and they then fled in terror, dropping weapons and armor so that they could run faster, and a great victory was had without shedding any blood! That would be a cool movie. This one was just dreck.
Sin 33: Tristan is a Briton and he has a native name. The main debate about him is whether he's from the west country or near Edinburgh. These Sarmatians in this movie in any case were recruited as children and it still doesn't explain how a chinese sword came to be used by one of them, particularly as that type of sword likely hadn't been invented yet - for another 400 years or so. Sin 37: Bishops, or any priest, could fight, but I understand during the middle ages they were restricted to using blunt weapons like clubs. Sin 67: The so called traitor is north of the wall as are the Saxons. He's a Briton I guess but who's to say he's pro Roman? The land they're in north of the wall belonged to Celtic tribes that the Romans had conquered, then left alone, then come back and conquered again, then left alone, then come back again. So all the locals north of the wall up to the second wall 100 miles away were partially Romanised Britons and likely Christian who'd repeatedly felt the worst the Roman Empire had to offer and next to none of its benefits, so who is this Briton being a traitor to? They're trying to push the idea that the Saxons were out to get the Britons while ignoring the part where the Romans had actively been trying to conquer the remaining Britons in the north for centuries. It's entirely possible that this so called traitor was a member of a tribe like the Gododdin who were glad the Romans were leaving. Sin 74: If things are urgent enough you need to be escorted to safety then you don't leave the doors open during the day. It was also an estate (villa), not a town and why someone favoured by the Pope and therefore with good political connections would be so exposed is just total rubbish. Oh, and 3:56 ... that thumb is going to be meeting Mr Ground very soon.
Here's a question for you then.....is one of those historical inaccuracies this movie depicts the fact that this movie seems to portray Lancelot as being older than Arthur as a child, but then it seems to be the opposite when they are adults? Lancelot then seems to be the head-strong, hot tempered warrior and Arthur is the wise, patient leader.
The "Woads" alias Picts are one of the reasons the Saxons were supposedly in Britain in the first place. They apparently were INVITED to deal by the romano-britons (i am really unsure wether to call them romano-britons or just britons, as they werent really a homogenous bunch) with the pictish raids, then had some kind of falling out with their employers and took shit for themselves.
@@lucilovecraft1621 merlin was Welsh, not Scottish. Arthurs seat has nothing to do with king Arthur.. It was originally called, "Archer's Seat" but over the years slowly changed to Arthur
This was one of my favorite movies in my teens, but I haven't watched it in years. As a young history geek, I kinda liked the idea of tying together Arthurian legends and their supposed origins in the fall of the Roman Empire. Of course as I grew older I realized most of this movie is fan- fiction and a recent issue of a local history magazine pointed out the historical inacuracies.
Yet the remnants of large buildings and much wealth have been found near tintagel. The original myth that said the court of Arthur was found near but not at the more recent tintagel castle being possibly based on truth then. Perhaps a strong Romano British warlord had kept the peace in England during some lost century of the dark ages.
I recommend going to a doctor if you're hearing your homework speak to you. Unless your homework is a living human you have to do "something" with to do your homework... either, you sir have mental problems. -Best regards, the person who takes everything too seriously.
Why is your homework in your drawer? Shouldn't it be in your bookbag, or in a folder on top of your drawer? Or like me, on top of my computer half done?
2:23 That kid may not have been Ser Loras but that philosopher talking to young Arthur was Ser Allister. Weird seeing him as a thoughtful, nurturing character. Also, Merlin was King Stannis.
Actually, before the church really decided to quell this tradition, it wasn't unheard of for clergymen to be warriors. An example of this is found in an old epic called "the Song of Roland."
@@curtisdavis2891 Yes. The First Crusade was "led" (in the same way one herds cats) by Bishop Adhemar, and there's period art depicting him in maille with a mitre on his head in battle.
@2manynegativewaves Exactly. Cinema sins long time ago turned into a wafflecunts(and not the good kind of waffle,more of a blue waffle kind) who have no fucking clue what they are talking about
Specifically Galahad's line: "I don't kill for pleasure, unlike some." And Tristan's response: "You should try it, you might get a taste for it." It works TOO well
The 10th sin actually makes sense. The Sarmatians were mostly nomadic, meaning they didn't give a shit whether there were crops or anything, because they didn't live off of agriculture. Edit: Tristain is also not using a chinese sword, but a sarmatian cavalry saber.
Not the least of which would've been Georgie Henley's horrific ****ing "haitch"ing, which so pissed me off coming from a middle-class 1940's English girl that I smashed the DVD's of all three films into fragments and threw them in the bin.
The comments about Til Schweiger are really funny, because for most of the people living in germany he isn't know for his badassery but for his debatebel romantic comedies
One of my all time favorite movies!! When I can sit through a movie dozens of times over and never get bored with it I know it must have been a pretty darn good movie!!
Haha, I guess I just love really amazing movies, or favorite movies, just getting torn apart. It's really hilarious. Especially this movie, with its flaws.
Furious Sherman I enjoy his videos more when they're about movies I liked. Even if I don't agree with all his sins, I still get a good chuckle out of them. Most often, the more I loved a movie, the more I'll watch and laugh and say, "Yep!" NO movie is without sin!
Finally, someone who gets what this channel is about. lol I enjoy most of the movies he sins, too, but I still can't help but laugh at the nit-picks and jokes and such. Even when he genuinely hates a movie I like or love, it doesn't bother me because I'm not a baby (unlike a lot of commenters on this channel...)
Britons in this case are not from England or English and did not fuck with Scotland. They spoke a Brythonic dialect most closely related to modern Welsh and largely migrated west or North (to the Welsh and Scottish hills) when the Saxons started to dominate.
This is true, of course I was over simplifying, apologies. I should also mention that it all has very little to no real bearing today on modern UK politics, even the "Celtic" nationalists aren't really moaning about the anglo/saxon/jutt invasion at this point.
Nope, it totally needs a movie. A good movie, exploring some of the lore of a character. Whether it's animated, or live action, a movie for Dark Souls would be fantastic.
Nikki Hankin there’s where the actors met and became friends, so we have to thank this movie for all it’s done for Hannibal the tv series. Also, pre made au fanfiction. Genius.
These actors are usually playing in historical movies and always being hired to them. Just like a huge amount of HBO Rome actors are being casted into GOT. The guy with the huge axe at the frozen lake also played as the main actor in HBO Rome.
I can't believe you didn't sin Tristan for eating an apple with a knife, with all the "eating apple=douchebag" sins you've done. Even though Mads looks cool no matter what he does :P
I had only watched half of this movie but until today I was 100% sure that guy playing Arthur was Nicolas Cage....my world-view has been shattered and I don't know what to believe anymore.
It actually felt like the movie was made for Nicholas Cage. Alas Nicholas Cage instead was in a movie called Lord of War in that year, off the heels of National Treasure the previous year.
how was there no mention of keira knightly's bs fighting abilities. No muscle, no testosterone, nearly starved to death a minute ago; beats the shit out of well nourished warriors who have spent their whole lives fighting and training and are also big men.
John LaG Bc these whiners that complain constantly about a little reading don't sin, just make bad jokes and complain, it's their whole spiel now, they gave up trying a couple years ago and still get the views. Now watch their fans=cuckholds who have nothing better to do than defend these guys as -you can't take a joke, blah, blah, blah. Sad americans too busy defending horseshit labeling and belittling each other to actually engage in real problems like inadequate education and discourse.
Zyra L. F. I don't think education is America's problem. I think that the problem is the entertainment industry. they've really dumbed down the population
How about how she's pulling back a bow string with two fingers that a few hours before were dislocated. By all rights just moving those fingers let alone holding anything with any strength would hurt but pulling back a bowstring which would at least have a fifty pound pull (most were a hundred plus) is impossible.
It is so weird to be a german guy and hear your comment about Til Schweiger at 7:56! I mean for me this guy is like an incarnation of german romantic comedy and mumbeling :D
Nah Sinemasins guy is not the same as he used to be. He lost his soul.. Always used to credit lap dance scenes etc, now he just nitpicks and hates on everything in movies he doesn't outright love.
+Daniel Kemnitz yea and its because they don't try to sin actual good movies anymore. Cinemasins writing formula now... "Is it getting a sequel or a remake..then do it..don't waste time sinning quality movies"
WHAT, you are sinning that one of the actors looks like Sir Loras, and say you looked it up just to be sure. You do realise that you before this, showed us the actors who played The Blackfish AND Alliser Thorne from GoT in this movie?
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David Davies IKR? At least Braveheart was pretty entertaining. I haven't seen it in full, but this... didn't. I realize that it's hard to accurately fit history to a near ancient legend told so many different ways, but they could have tried a little harder!
The point I'm making is not whether the portrayal of Arthur is real, but everything else in the movie. Calling their assailants "woads", for instance, presumably in reference to the woad that ancient Britons used as war paint? By that point, virtually all southern Britons had become Romanised and insurgencies were a greatly diminished threat. Yet this movie still portrays 5th century Britons as barbarians.
Unlike the majority of commentors here, I am not an historian or an armchair historian. I saw this movie when it first went to video and watched as I do all movies, for entertainment. Sin of sin, I loved it then and still do. It's gritty. The characters are developed as to engage the audience and emotionally connect with them from the very beginning. Their interaction with one another is relatable through their humorous banter and tongue in cheek attacks on one another. Where I come from that is pretty spot on. As for the plot, it may not be historically accurate but not many movies are. Even when they say they are based on actual events. Movies are made to entertain unless they are documentaries. This movie entertained me. It emotionally engaged me. It visually appealed to me. I didn't just like it, I loved it. So all of you history snobs can go climb up on your high horses and fuck off. Go give a boring lecture in a stuffy class room while patting yourselves on the back that your better than the rest of us uneducated working class who just need something to distract us from the trials and indignities of life in the trenches.
yes, but this is Hollywood geography -would you really be surprised if you saw a couple of confederate soldiers walking around in the background? Whereas we know it was the emperor Adrian who built the Byker Wall to keep out the bykers.
Doctor Craptonicus needs to go back to school and brush up on history. *Hadrian's Wall was built to keep out the Picts.... the "Byker Wall" is a really small section around Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
you make a reference to Finn Jones, who isn't in this movie but show clips of The Blackfish and Alliser Thorne in the film and say nothing? NOTHING?! Damn you Jeremy
And yet I can say that this is a movie that gets less about King Arthur right and treats his lore less seriously than the anime that gender bent him and Morgan
An overlooked but fantastic film is Sneakers starring Robert Redford. The cast is packed with greatness, story ahead of it's time (predicted NSA spying in the early 90's) and is nearly perfect. But is it without sin? I'd love to see what Cinema Sins could come up with for it.
There's only one thing wrong with this movie (other than the wooden acting) and that is going with the idea that the first King of Britain post Roman occupation was Lucius Artorius Castus. He was likely a Roman military leader who stuck around to help defend the British Isles from the invading Saxons but he was not Artorius Castus. Lucius Artorius Castus was not contemporaneous with the Saxon invasions of Britain in the 5th century which gave rise to the Arthurian legend, and some of the earliest written references to Arthur are of him fighting against the Saxons. Castus ended up in what is now modern day Croatia about the same time the Romans left. We do know that the Romano-British appointed a leader but who he was is a mystery. What isn't a mystery however is the general who led the Britons against the Saxons in the battle of Mount Badon which brought to and end their first attempt at taking over the British Isles. He was a Roman military leader called Ambrosius Aurelianus. Was Aurelianus the man who become known as King Arthur?
Anyone else nerding out about Hannibal Lecter and Will Graham being in the same movie? I knew Mads and Hugh met in a different movie but I didn't realise it was this piece of shit.
I absolutely love the character of Tristan, but I fully expected him to point out the fact that Tristan took his helmet off to do battle with Cerdic only to immediately get slashed in the neck. Like, poor boy, that's what the helmet is for.
I liked Tristan too, only problem is that he went all movie consistently showing himself to be the Good Will Hunting of generally being awesome and seemed almost invincible. Whereas Cedric didnt do anything
Then he loses, which had to happen for the plot since Arthur needed some personal revenge boner. I just didnt really believe Tristan could lose, would have helped to show Stellan being a melee beast but the Saxxons never actually had anyone to fight until the end I guess.
That arrow flying across the field and killing that guy in the tree was legit the funniest thing I've seen in a movie in years.
That shit had me rolling lmao
I couldn't remember laughing that hard for years 😂🤣😂
@@MegaJamesjyou’re a liar
Yeah. Straight-up Holly-woad.
Straight Bs lol
Studio Execs- "Hey Mads, do you want to be an expert with a Chinese sword, a falconer, a great archer, or a guy who can seemingly teleport?" Mads- "Yes."
fun fact: mads didn't like the falcon 😂 (but he respected it, obvi)
15:28 - Wow...that was one of the funniest arrow-kills-meant-to-be-taken-seriously that I've ever seen. XD
How did he even fucking see his target?
He's the best. His eyes are also the best. Also he's a druid and can use the bird's sight as his own. Also he's actually a robot - a robot druid with super eyes.
Let's break it down, shall we? No archer can sight in and shoot in the span of one draw motion, it would take incredible strength and formal training to shoot an arrow that distance, he would have had to account for any wind over the wall, the tree was obscuring his target, and his target should have seen the archer drawing, thus giving him a LOT of time to evade that arrow.
It didn't even look like he pulled the string back enough for that arrow to go a quarter of the distance, the arrow moved way too slowly to travel that distance at that angle, the archer had to have x-ray vision to see the target through the wall, the target had to have x-ray vision to have been doing anything meaningful up there, it's a miracle it didnt hit any branch, and it's a miracle the guy didnt see it.
Actually - a bishop having military skills is the one seemingly insane thing that actually has historical basis. Although this was more strongly in practice amoung German bishops, but even small Anglo monastic communities needed to fend off the Vik, Danes and Norse. The orders took many duties, prayer being featured, but some recognized warfare as defense of the flock and relics. Check out the Song of Roland, which features the bloodthirsty tactician Archbishop Turpin.
"To consistently fuck with Scotland" I lol'd
We have Hannibal and Will Graham fighting side by side in Arthur's army and no mention about it. Cinema sins haven't watched Hannibal.
Actually, in the books Tristram, in addition to being the only knight who could stand toe-to-toe with Lancelot, was first in hunting, harping and in hawking. He's one of the closest to his legendary form of the entire movie.
But does he know the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
Hearing Voices // Making Choices Is it an african swallow?
Nah, its definitly a european swallow.
If the swallow is unladen, then you are suggesting that coconuts do indeed migrate.
Are you suggesting they could attach a line between them, beneath the dorsal guiding feathers?
Carrying a coconut?
I like waking up and hearing Jeremy's voice every Tuesda & Thursday
I'm getting a PhD in early medieval history (just, you know, so I look like an expert here). This movie is a perennial 'bad favorite' of mine. A lot of it is an attempt to make an Arthur movie based on actual theories about the historical Arthur. It's a joke, but some of these sins aren't as bad as you make them sound.
Sin 10: The Sarmatians were semi-nomadic steppe people, kind of like the Huns. They didn't have agriculture but migrated regularly across the vast grasslands north of the Black Sea.
Sin 32: The 'Woads' are basically the Picts, who lived in northern Britain and were never under Roman rule. They raided across the border constantly, especially as Roman rule in Britain came to an end. That's the context for the battle.
Sin 33: Tristan isn't supposed to be 'from' southern Britain (he's clearly from 'the East')--not that that makes his character any less ridiculous.
Sin 34: There's a hole in the linen curtain in the carriage, which is where the arrow entered.
Sin 37: Bishops were often very happy to lead troops into battle and crack some heads, until the later when the practice was banned by the church.
Sin 38: The Woads are not native English, they are indigenous Picts performing cross-border raids.
Sin 41: Sarmacist, not Salmacist.
Sin 46: Bors's wife is asking why he's late.
Sin 67: The dude is a traitor to his own people because he's feeding information to the Saxons.
Sin 74: You would only close the gate to a fortified town at night and if an attack was immanent.
Now we just need a whole video to deal with the historical inaccuracies.
The "Woads" were actually on the side of the Saxons at this time, trying to attack the Britons. Bishop Germanus is Saint Germaine of Auxerre who had been a Roman general before he was elected as a bishop. One of his most famous proteges was St. Patrick of Ireland. When St. Germaine came to Britain to settle the problem of the heresy of Pelagianism (the heresy they have Arthur love, and which they misrepresent horribly), he was asked to help the Britons fight the Saxon and Pict army (Woads). He agreed to lead them, but led them into what is known as the Alleluia victory. He had the Britons all baptized and then while still "wet behind the ears" (i.e. still wet from baptism), he led them in singing Alleluia in a mountain pass. The echo of the song made it sound like there was a huge army surrounding the Saxons and Picts, and they then fled in terror, dropping weapons and armor so that they could run faster, and a great victory was had without shedding any blood! That would be a cool movie. This one was just dreck.
@@PapaPhilip That's some interesting stuff you mentioned. Thanks for sharing. And it's always nice to find see a priest out there.
Sin 33:
Tristan is a Briton and he has a native name. The main debate about him is whether he's from the west country or near Edinburgh. These Sarmatians in this movie in any case were recruited as children and it still doesn't explain how a chinese sword came to be used by one of them, particularly as that type of sword likely hadn't been invented yet - for another 400 years or so.
Sin 37:
Bishops, or any priest, could fight, but I understand during the middle ages they were restricted to using blunt weapons like clubs.
Sin 67:
The so called traitor is north of the wall as are the Saxons. He's a Briton I guess but who's to say he's pro Roman? The land they're in north of the wall belonged to Celtic tribes that the Romans had conquered, then left alone, then come back and conquered again, then left alone, then come back again. So all the locals north of the wall up to the second wall 100 miles away were partially Romanised Britons and likely Christian who'd repeatedly felt the worst the Roman Empire had to offer and next to none of its benefits, so who is this Briton being a traitor to? They're trying to push the idea that the Saxons were out to get the Britons while ignoring the part where the Romans had actively been trying to conquer the remaining Britons in the north for centuries. It's entirely possible that this so called traitor was a member of a tribe like the Gododdin who were glad the Romans were leaving.
Sin 74:
If things are urgent enough you need to be escorted to safety then you don't leave the doors open during the day. It was also an estate (villa), not a town and why someone favoured by the Pope and therefore with good political connections would be so exposed is just total rubbish.
Oh, and 3:56 ... that thumb is going to be meeting Mr Ground very soon.
Here's a question for you then.....is one of those historical inaccuracies this movie depicts the fact that this movie seems to portray Lancelot as being older than Arthur as a child, but then it seems to be the opposite when they are adults? Lancelot then seems to be the head-strong, hot tempered warrior and Arthur is the wise, patient leader.
The "Woads" alias Picts are one of the reasons the Saxons were supposedly in Britain in the first place. They apparently were INVITED to deal by the romano-britons (i am really unsure wether to call them romano-britons or just britons, as they werent really a homogenous bunch) with the pictish raids, then had some kind of falling out with their employers and took shit for themselves.
Anachronistically referring to Britain as England: +10 sins.
Haha!
I know, Merlin was Scottish and anyone heard of Arthur’s seat in Edinburgh? ✌️
Hey, the bad guys are working on making it England...
Mate, this is far from the only anachronism in the movie...
@@lucilovecraft1621 merlin was Welsh, not Scottish. Arthurs seat has nothing to do with king Arthur.. It was originally called, "Archer's Seat" but over the years slowly changed to Arthur
2:15 Googles Sir Loras for no good reason at all, but gives no fucks about motherfucking actual Alliser Thorne!
Owen Teale actually playing a good guy for once, who'da thunk?!
Oh, and that's Stannis under Merlin's beard...!
Blackfish is Lancelot father.
Man, they wasted all the future game of thrones stars
Stannis is Merlin. True story
Or the Black Fish.
No "Mads Mikkelsen isn't eye fucking Hugh Dancy in this scene" joke?
alexkmz I was waiting for that
My thoughts exactly at least twice
Cinema Sins apparently ships it, and thus doesn't count it as a sin?
***** probably, I'll stick to that assumption
Katherine Clark it's a sin bc it's *not* happening.
Surprised there were no Hannibal references.
This was one of my favorite movies in my teens, but I haven't watched it in years. As a young history geek, I kinda liked the idea of tying together Arthurian legends and their supposed origins in the fall of the Roman Empire. Of course as I grew older I realized most of this movie is fan- fiction and a recent issue of a local history magazine pointed out the historical inacuracies.
Yet the remnants of large buildings and much wealth have been found near tintagel. The original myth that said the court of Arthur was found near but not at the more recent tintagel castle being possibly based on truth then. Perhaps a strong Romano British warlord had kept the peace in England during some lost century of the dark ages.
Ah no, King Arthur has not been proven to exist let alone the so called 'local history magazine' being proven as legitimate ROFL.
*CinemaSins uploads*
*homework glares at me from the drawer* "Don't you dare..."
*slams drawers shut*
"It can wait for 17 minutes"
I recommend going to a doctor if you're hearing your homework speak to you.
Unless your homework is a living human you have to do "something" with to do your homework...
either, you sir have mental problems.
-Best regards, the person who takes everything too seriously.
Or less!
Why is your homework in your drawer? Shouldn't it be in your bookbag, or in a folder on top of your drawer? Or like me, on top of my computer half done?
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2:23 That kid may not have been Ser Loras but that philosopher talking to young Arthur was Ser Allister. Weird seeing him as a thoughtful, nurturing character.
Also, Merlin was King Stannis.
I didn't realise it was Stannis's actor! I think Brynden Tully was Lancelot's father, too
no but apparently Sir Lancelot's dad is Ser Brendan Tully, "The Blackfish"
It's not a coincidence that 3 actors barely known of this movie were cast for Game of Thrones. Definitely Dumb and Dumber watched this.
I'm impressed at the restraint of only using two Monty Python jokes, and both at the end no less!
There was Sir-Not-Appearing-In-This-Film which was another one
It's also fun because apparently the Mikkelsens learned English from Monty Python
Just watched the new Fast and Furious movie. I'm really excited for the 45 minute video on it by CinemaSins
This is actually one of my favorite movies, as well as V for Vendetta, and I still love the sins given!
There must be a better Arthur movie. Perhaps the animated Sword in the Stone? Or perhaps A Very Harold & Kumar Christmas.
You missed 'movie inavertedly causes Hannibal the TV series'
OMG YES! That fact should remove 50 sins alone tbh XD
faabyy21 and how is this a sin, exactly?
Please Sin The Abyss, there's gotta enough sins in that movie to write a book.
And since when is that a bad thing?
Lol yall it was in good fun! I love the show a lot but I just wanted it mentioned somehow n.n i'd sin season 3 tho
Making a GoT reference about an actor that wasn't in GoT but you completely miss Alliser Thorn from the Nights Watch in the sin before. *ding*
On top of the actor playing the One True King Stannis Baratheon being in the film as well. *ding*
No Name I was thinking the same thing.
Also the Blackfish as Lancelot's father
zakbm I thought that was him but couldn't find him on the wiki.
+No Name in what universe is Stannis baratheon the true king?
4:24 Bishops totally had military skills for hundreds of years. The Pope/Vatican use to own armies. Crazy, but true.
Despite the inaccuracies. I absolutely loved this movie
can we sin the hawk for being a Harris hawk.... a bird from the Americas.
But do we know the hawk didn't discover America?
I thought they were native to the UK. We have them in my town and they’re treated as though they are?
SuperstitiousTaurus they aren’t native but are introduced which they wouldn’t be there for this time frame.
Actually, before the church really decided to quell this tradition, it wasn't unheard of for clergymen to be warriors. An example of this is found in an old epic called "the Song of Roland."
Did They Do This During The Holy War Crusades?
And you even got a "picture"... well... a medieval type one, of Bishop Odo fighting in the Bayeux Tapestry :-)
@@curtisdavis2891 Yes. The First Crusade was "led" (in the same way one herds cats) by Bishop Adhemar, and there's period art depicting him in maille with a mitre on his head in battle.
@2manynegativewaves Exactly. Cinema sins long time ago turned into a wafflecunts(and not the good kind of waffle,more of a blue waffle kind) who have no fucking clue what they are talking about
Just noticed alliser thorne, stannis baratheon and bryden tully were in this movie
And the actors who SHOULD have played Euron and Victarion Greyjoy (Mads Mikkelsen and Ray Stevenson respectively)
Where did you see Stannis?
HustlerMitch he was THE MERLIN
and Yara!
Plus discount Ser Loras lol
"Historians agree" - nobody who has ever been to a real academic history conference would utter those words...
Indeed. They never do.
Listen having Mads Mikkelsen and Hugh Dancy in this movie is great because then they both star in Hannibal.
Tristan/Lancelot shipping
Specifically Galahad's line: "I don't kill for pleasure, unlike some." And Tristan's response: "You should try it, you might get a taste for it." It works TOO well
''Rome expected Mexico to pay for it'' 😂
Pretty sure Romans levied taxes on the British to pay for it, so...
Chris Morris it worked too. How many Mexicans do you see in England? hmmm?
+CoryTheRaven
Exactly!
...
Wait, what?!
The secret to Tristan's powers is a healthy diet of people
The 10th sin actually makes sense. The Sarmatians were mostly nomadic, meaning they didn't give a shit whether there were crops or anything, because they didn't live off of agriculture.
Edit: Tristain is also not using a chinese sword, but a sarmatian cavalry saber.
It's a dao bro
Look up that word and you'll see many that look identical to the one he's using.
You should do the Narnia films, I can imagine there being a lot to remark on.
Jonas Laestadius I agree, but at the same time so many childhoods would be broken (including mine)
The films are just too bad compared to the original novels
Oh yes please!
Not the least of which would've been Georgie Henley's horrific ****ing "haitch"ing, which so pissed me off coming from a middle-class 1940's English girl that I smashed the DVD's of all three films into fragments and threw them in the bin.
still waiting for Pride and Prejudice (2005) and Robin Hood: Men in Tights (1993) 😆
I'm still waiting for Rogue One.
There is nothing wrong with Men in Tights, you monster.
I'm still waiting for Spaceballs and blazing saddles.
Lord Cottington
NO movie is without sin! 😉
I've heard if you drink bleach they'll do them.
Come on CinemaSins, Tristan can't teleport that would be ridiculous. Obviously he's a warg, duh. LOL
Not '"telePORT", "telePATH"! Isn't it obvious that he sees what his HAWK sees?
I heard Artorias and seriously thought "Abyss Walker" would come right after it.
william swyers haha. If only halfway through the movies Arthur adopts a wolf.
And Excalibur is the wkgs
william swyers Why would you not just call it the Greatsword of Artorias?
The comments about Til Schweiger are really funny, because for most of the people living in germany he isn't know for his badassery but for his debatebel romantic comedies
Ludere der ludigste
Action movies don't sell in Germany. But it's not like no action movies with Til Schweiger are a loss for humanity. :-D
One of my all time favorite movies!! When I can sit through a movie dozens of times over and never get bored with it I know it must have been a pretty darn good movie!!
Ahhhhhh I've been waiting for this one for so long holy crap
This is one of my favorite movies, I can't wait to see you tear it apart
KasperAura That's the exact opposite reaction most people have when their favourite movies show up on this channel.
Haha, I guess I just love really amazing movies, or favorite movies, just getting torn apart. It's really hilarious. Especially this movie, with its flaws.
Furious Sherman
I enjoy his videos more when they're about movies I liked. Even if I don't agree with all his sins, I still get a good chuckle out of them. Most often, the more I loved a movie, the more I'll watch and laugh and say, "Yep!" NO movie is without sin!
Finally, someone who gets what this channel is about. lol I enjoy most of the movies he sins, too, but I still can't help but laugh at the nit-picks and jokes and such. Even when he genuinely hates a movie I like or love, it doesn't bother me because I'm not a baby (unlike a lot of commenters on this channel...)
Same here! I don't care how stretched it is to even be related to the King Arthur tales at all, I still love it.
Britons in this case are not from England or English and did not fuck with Scotland. They spoke a Brythonic dialect most closely related to modern Welsh and largely migrated west or North (to the Welsh and Scottish hills) when the Saxons started to dominate.
A large amount actually remained in modern day England and embraced the Anglo-Saxon culture.
This is true, of course I was over simplifying, apologies. I should also mention that it all has very little to no real bearing today on modern UK politics, even the "Celtic" nationalists aren't really moaning about the anglo/saxon/jutt invasion at this point.
“To consistently f*ck with Scotland” got me. 😂😂😂
King Arthur: proof that in actuality the most motivating force for anything is a DD-214
+1 sin for CinemaSins for not making a Hannibal Lecter/Will Graham reference.
YES! I second this!
me too!
I was here for this!! :(
how dare they! i mean COME ON!
LeoGotHisOscar I love Hannibal but I don't get it
Didn't realized that both Will Graham and Hannibal Lecter were on this movie.
"our commander, Artorias"
is this a fucking dark souls origin story.
Vulkan The Primarch That would be a way better movie
Vulkan The Primarch King Arthur is consumed by the abyss confirmed.
Vulkan The Primarch Pretty sure they said "Arturias", but close enough. Also...
#DarkSoulsNeedsAMovie
arcos xerocite Hell no. The last thing that Dark Souls needs is a movie.
Nope, it totally needs a movie. A good movie, exploring some of the lore of a character. Whether it's animated, or live action, a movie for Dark Souls would be fantastic.
After playing Darksouls people saying the name Artorias will never be the same
Nate Slabs ikr?
Artorias != Artorius :X
Same for me after Tales of Berseria.
King Arthur, the Abysswalker
It's Arturius in the movie, not Atrorius.
Just realised Hannibal is playing Tristan - lets hope he isn't hungry
and Will is Galahad OMG
Nikki Hankin there’s where the actors met and became friends, so we have to thank this movie for all it’s done for Hannibal the tv series. Also, pre made au fanfiction. Genius.
Might be a better movie if He were hungry.
"These poor bastards are poor"
Yeah that's what I remember about King Arthur.
whoa, the blackfish @ 1:10
and Ser alliser thorn @ 2:12
We sure this isnt a pre Game of Thrones Spin off?
These actors are usually playing in historical movies and always being hired to them. Just like a huge amount of HBO Rome actors are being casted into GOT. The guy with the huge axe at the frozen lake also played as the main actor in HBO Rome.
wheezy7777777 Stannis plays Merlin.
So here Stannis is the King Beyond the Wall.
"some poor people pooring" LOL
"This movie is so damn inaccurate! Sincerely, a history buff."
-Literally every comment.
Your "Woad Song" gave me the first full belly laugh I've had in the last 4 episodes.
I can't believe you didn't sin Tristan for eating an apple with a knife, with all the "eating apple=douchebag" sins you've done. Even though Mads looks cool no matter what he does :P
The correct term is asshole
I had only watched half of this movie but until today I was 100% sure that guy playing Arthur was Nicolas Cage....my world-view has been shattered and I don't know what to believe anymore.
the mandela effect...hahaha
jjbeatle2006 no way dude it's more like this dude acts, sounds, and presents himself like Nicholas Cage
Bob Pickleson When Nicholas Cage is on screen, he lets you know. There's no mistaking his genius for anybody else. First dude is crazy.
It actually felt like the movie was made for Nicholas Cage. Alas Nicholas Cage instead was in a movie called Lord of War in that year, off the heels of National Treasure the previous year.
The Mandela Effect is a harsh mistress.
how was there no mention of keira knightly's bs fighting abilities. No muscle, no testosterone, nearly starved to death a minute ago; beats the shit out of well nourished warriors who have spent their whole lives fighting and training and are also big men.
John LaG she used the Force u hater
why did i laugh
John LaG Bc these whiners that complain constantly about a little reading don't sin, just make bad jokes and complain, it's their whole spiel now, they gave up trying a couple years ago and still get the views. Now watch their fans=cuckholds who have nothing better to do than defend these guys as -you can't take a joke, blah, blah, blah. Sad americans too busy defending horseshit labeling and belittling each other to actually engage in real problems like inadequate education and discourse.
Zyra L. F. I don't think education is America's problem. I think that the problem is the entertainment industry. they've really dumbed down the population
How about how she's pulling back a bow string with two fingers that a few hours before were dislocated. By all rights just moving those fingers let alone holding anything with any strength would hurt but pulling back a bowstring which would at least have a fifty pound pull (most were a hundred plus) is impossible.
17:48 "what is it, your period?"
That made me stupid laugh so hard🤣🤣
Because of Cinema Sins, whenever I see a good actor in a crappy movie, I think "They dragged (e.g.) Jeremy Irons into this, didn't they?" lol
Also (at least for me) 'narration', 'roll credits' and 'in the Prometheus school of running away from things' ...
I want to like this but 40 is such a nice round number so here you go 👍
For a decent actor, I'm struggling to think of a good film he has been in other than the lion king.
Jonathan Slater: Man in the Iron Mask and Kingdom of Heaven
@@christopherallen6036 I'm afraid I'll have to disagree, for me they're pretty bad films.
Y'know, this may come as a surprise: This movie is more historically accurate than the actual king arthur stories.
It is so weird to be a german guy and hear your comment about Til Schweiger at 7:56! I mean for me this guy is like an incarnation of german romantic comedy and mumbeling :D
YAY! For the monty python & the holy grail jokes.
11:44 nice Moana reference.
That arrow and archer at 15:28 must be a God to shoot it that far
No points taken off for the Keira Knightly lap dance?
Maybe her body doesn't do it for him. He didn't once say "Keira Knightley is not my girlfriend in this scene"
Nah Sinemasins guy is not the same as he used to be. He lost his soul.. Always used to credit lap dance scenes etc, now he just nitpicks and hates on everything in movies he doesn't outright love.
Daniel Kemnitz We broke him. With our Emoji-Movies and endless sequels, we broke him. AND NOBODY ONCE THOUGHT IF WE WERE DOING SOMETHING WRONG!!
+Daniel Kemnitz yea and its because they don't try to sin actual good movies anymore.
Cinemasins writing formula now...
"Is it getting a sequel or a remake..then do it..don't waste time sinning quality movies"
all they do is sin movies any 5 year old could sin..they don't challenge themselves at all.
can you please do both Jeepers Creepers 1 and 2 please, those movies are in dire need of the CinemaSins treatment
Nightwing
Maybe when the third one comes out this year.. I enjoyed the first two a lot though.
RP wait another jeeper creeper movie coming out this year
Nightwing Shut up and show us your sweet, sweet ass.
Justin Eady
Yes, it was in production for a while, but it only now got a release date.
I don't hate the films, I just love whenever a film gets the CinemaSins treatment
"aw man, they left a perfectly good Keira Knightly down here"
Emma Rose Dewitt Bukater I know, who would leave a perfectly good Keira Knightley down there
WHAT, you are sinning that one of the actors looks like Sir Loras, and say you looked it up just to be sure. You do realise that you before this, showed us the actors who played The Blackfish AND Alliser Thorne from GoT in this movie?
ugabugasuga1 thank you, I thought I was the only one who thought that
Ding!
CinemaSins Sin counter 1
Ding! someone doesn't understand this channel doesn't take itself seriously
xxroyalxtigerxx
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Thanks for your time.
You forgot the best one: Stannis!
Holy shit. For a movie that tries to look at the historical Arthur, it has more historical inacuracies than Braveheart.
David Davies IKR? At least Braveheart was pretty entertaining. I haven't seen it in full, but this... didn't. I realize that it's hard to accurately fit history to a near ancient legend told so many different ways, but they could have tried a little harder!
Not really. Its still not really clear to this day who King Arthur really was or if he was even real.
The point I'm making is not whether the portrayal of Arthur is real, but everything else in the movie. Calling their assailants "woads", for instance, presumably in reference to the woad that ancient Britons used as war paint? By that point, virtually all southern Britons had become Romanised and insurgencies were a greatly diminished threat. Yet this movie still portrays 5th century Britons as barbarians.
David Davies True though by the 5th century the Romans had left Britain to defend Rome from the Visigoths.
Mongols hats, bows that fire way too far with little trouble, a doubled bladed axe and HEELS ON ANCIENT BOOTS!
I'd totally forgotten Ioan Gruffudd was in this thing.
...and Sean Gilder. What is this, a Hornblower reunion?
I'm adding an extra sin for that Harris's Hawk, a species native to the Americas.
Please Sin the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy movie.
We don't talk about it.
Man, now I feel like watching that again.
Jason E there are only 42 sins, let's discuss at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe
Brandon Gries You know, because 9 times 6 is 54?
Unlike the majority of commentors here, I am not an historian or an armchair historian. I saw this movie when it first went to video and watched as I do all movies, for entertainment. Sin of sin, I loved it then and still do. It's gritty. The characters are developed as to engage the audience and emotionally connect with them from the very beginning. Their interaction with one another is relatable through their humorous banter and tongue in cheek attacks on one another. Where I come from that is pretty spot on.
As for the plot, it may not be historically accurate but not many movies are. Even when they say they are based on actual events. Movies are made to entertain unless they are documentaries. This movie entertained me. It emotionally engaged me. It visually appealed to me. I didn't just like it, I loved it. So all of you history snobs can go climb up on your high horses and fuck off. Go give a boring lecture in a stuffy class room while patting yourselves on the back that your better than the rest of us uneducated working class who just need something to distract us from the trials and indignities of life in the trenches.
Well said. I agree with every word you said. Loved this movie.
Can I just say how extremely disappointed I am that there was not BBC Merlin references! An opportunity lost there my friend
Complains about geographical exposition, calls south of hadrian's wall Southern England. DING!
yes, but this is Hollywood geography -would you really be surprised if you saw a couple of confederate soldiers walking around in the background? Whereas we know it was the emperor Adrian who built the Byker Wall to keep out the bykers.
Doctor Craptonicus needs to go back to school and brush up on history.
*Hadrian's Wall was built to keep out the Picts.... the "Byker Wall" is a really small section around Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
even
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samur/aye go back to school and brush up on your history. Hadrians wall was built to keep out the Caledonians.
Refers to the length of the wall in miles in medieval Britain
*DING*
I nearly spat out my drink when I saw ol' Alliser Thorne tenderly speaking to a child, haha.
"doesn't need notifications because always on TH-cam" squad?
"I want to die but I'm too much of a fucking coward to do it myself" squad?
"Life is suffering and we are all waiting for the sweet release of death" squad?
"if I had two heads I could suck on both tits" squad?
My man
so that's it, we are some kind of "doesn't need notifications because always on TH-cam" squad?
Do Arthur,king of the Britons,seek the Holy Grail on this movie?
If not 0/10
King of the WHO?
babserella2778 The Britons!
Who are the "britons"?
We all are. We are all Britons, and I am your king!
Well, I didn't vote for you.
The Moana and Monty Python references are golden!
you make a reference to Finn Jones, who isn't in this movie but show clips of The Blackfish and Alliser Thorne in the film and say nothing? NOTHING?! Damn you Jeremy
Plus Merlin was Stannis
and FUCKING STANNIS THE MANNIS? THE ONE TRUE KING?! FUCKKKKKIJJBKJHBVJHJHCFVBHN
Also, wasn't Merlin played by Stannis?
Dissappointed that Arthur is not a smol British teen girl with an invisible sword that shoot beams.
I didnt get the reference... please tell me where is it from, im really curious about it.
Fate/Stay Night.
videitos09 fate/zero
oh ok, thank you both
And yet I can say that this is a movie that gets less about King Arthur right and treats his lore less seriously than the anime that gender bent him and Morgan
@10:35 - I have lived in an area that gets a bunch of snow every year and yet I have never seen snow float up ...
Yeaa! Bonus round!
Noah Gendron sometimes I like them best!
The Mario made me lmao on the transformers one
An overlooked but fantastic film is Sneakers starring Robert Redford. The cast is packed with greatness, story ahead of it's time (predicted NSA spying in the early 90's) and is nearly perfect. But is it without sin? I'd love to see what Cinema Sins could come up with for it.
Also, @ 6:18 the Bishop has 6 discharge papers but when he walks into the room he says he thought there would be more knights.
02:13 ser Alliser knows He is going to serve on another Wall than the Adrian's one.
15:27 - your laugh is infectious haha
15:28 That arrow and hos laugh got me... lol
best King Arthur movie I've ever seen
So, you've only seen this one then?
Now do Everything Wrong With Monty Python and the Holy Grail
jceaam Provided what that movie actually is...
We'll be here all week.
There's only one thing wrong with this movie (other than the wooden acting) and that is going with the idea that the first King of Britain post Roman occupation was Lucius Artorius Castus. He was likely a Roman military leader who stuck around to help defend the British Isles from the invading Saxons but he was not Artorius Castus. Lucius Artorius Castus was not contemporaneous with the Saxon invasions of Britain in the 5th century which gave rise to the Arthurian legend, and some of the earliest written references to Arthur are of him fighting against the Saxons. Castus ended up in what is now modern day Croatia about the same time the Romans left. We do know that the Romano-British appointed a leader but who he was is a mystery. What isn't a mystery however is the general who led the Britons against the Saxons in the battle of Mount Badon which brought to and end their first attempt at taking over the British Isles. He was a Roman military leader called Ambrosius Aurelianus. Was Aurelianus the man who become known as King Arthur?
He might have butchered the Wrath of Khan quote, but he nailed Picard's "Make it so".
Oh, I waited so long for "Prometeus school of Backing Away From Things" :)
Also those super green trees still have all their leaves, and traveling south they run into a lake that is frozen several inches deep. Hmmm
I can't believe they mentioned the kid who looked like loras but forgot to mention that Lancelot's father was the actor who played blackfish😂😂😂
Anyone else nerding out about Hannibal Lecter and Will Graham being in the same movie?
I knew Mads and Hugh met in a different movie but I didn't realise it was this piece of shit.
Me. Fucking miss that show.
this piece of shit is stil funny enoughin the top 10 mediëval war movies and is the best Artur movie
can you add a sin for another use of the word decimated at 0.37 when they speak of annihilation? decimated means, to reduce by 10%
qghjuy just learned something. Thanks bro 👊🏻
@@dogewisdom9921 i aim to educate - ha
Lancelot is clearly Mr.Fantastic, and not a single joke from CinemaSins about his lack of Fantastic-ism. +1 sin.
Tristan is good at everything because he's Hannibal.
Problem solved
And Galen Erso and Kaecilius.
At 13:15 Arthur yells "Prepare for combat!" They pull out their swords, but the saxon army is 100 yards away.
Best thing from this movie? Hugh met Mads and we later got Hannibal