The only thing though is that the bartender telling her would have no context. She would have to learn from Gus, but I think that dynamic would be interesting as well.
+subwayvesubscriber "Hum, how do we make sure that people waking up from hibernation know what's going on? I know! let's put a half disembodied head just inches away from their faces! that surely won't freak out a disoriented person! genius!¨. Also, let's not forget, ¨Cryogenic pod malfunctions and wakes up character at an inconvenient time/place¨cliché from ALL THE MOVIES.
I think they should have made the movie from Aurora’s perspective. So it starts with her waking up and exploring the ship, finding Jim, falling in love with him and then, when he reveals to her that he woke her up, it is an actual revelation in the plot that NOBODY sees coming.
I have also seen that idea (and the video), but I'd take it one step further, and it would fix some things about this movie. So start with her. Then the betrayal, the crisis, and the flashback. During the flashback, as he's building a relationship with the bartender, the bartender is dropping subtle suggestions that are almost a little too on the nose. Then have it revealed that as the ship's networked systems were being overloaded, they reached out for help and the bartender was charged with fixing the systems. Well, there's not much a bartender can do, but a bartender knows people. So it makes the call to wake a human. Or doesn't have direct access to the staff either, so it searches the crew for an engineer and wakes Jim. However rules of being a bartender, you can't tell people what to do, so all he could do is drop subtle hints. Now Jim is the one betrayed and spirals into depression. Eventually he forgives the bartender so they can have a clear relationship when she wakes up and movie proceeds.
The sad thing is that the crew would spend the next month erasing the event from existence. Can't have the passengers knowing that two people woke-up early and prevented the destruction of the ship. It's bad for business and morale.
It's a colony ship where humans are trying to colonize another planet, writing a new human history. Do they really want to start off their history books with a lie?
A more gripping and sympathetic story imo would’ve been someone waking up early and grappling with the decision to wake someone they already loved for company, a spouse/sibling/parent. They don’t want to be alone but they also don’t want to deprive a loved one of a new life. THAT would’ve been super upsetting and ambiguous.
He had a huge crush on her, which is the reason he woke HER up and not some random other person. So what you describe is basically just what actually happened in the movie.
@@teramalik7260He replayed the same 30 sec clip over again knowing nothing really about her. If she was even slightly less attractive, that would've saved her from being woken up by him. Would he done the same thing to someone he actually knew and cared like his mom or a brother just so he wouldn't die alone is what they're implying
It's kind of depressing when you think about how one of them probably died of old age before the other one and the other was just alone for a few months or years until they too died of old age
Not really. Jennifer Lawrence's pod was fixed but she chose to not use it and stay with Chris Pratt. When one of them died, the other one could have gone back into the pod if they wanted to.
He's like a dozen years older than her and men don't live as long so likely she would've gone into the autodoc although being old on a colony planet would've probably kind of sucked but she'd certainly have the celebrity she wanted.
Good mention. However, that far in the future, with medical technology such as med pods, I think it safe to assume that the life span between genders has most likely been slammed shut.
Yeah they're certainly working on it but he's still 13 years older. I still don't get why they have two of everything but not even one spare autodoc. Even if they believe the unsinkable analogy with the lifepods never fail with more than 5000 people on a ship it's definitely possible to have two really sick or hurt people at the same time.
When she goes nuts and is about to kill him in the middle of the night with the bat, he just relaxes to let her and then she drops the bat realizing she can't kill the only other person she can interact with for the rest of her life. That scene is pure genius.
If it took u that long too realize that then you're just a serial killer. That means: That she didn't take one second to think or give a damn about the consequences Genius my ass😂 it was freaking stupid
When Jim wakes his pod tells him he's in perfect health. Wouldn't Gus's pod have told him he was, at the very least, extremely sick and to seek medical attention immediately? Like maybe before coughing up blood?
Maybe he was so dizzy while waking up (because of his illnesses) that he couldn't listen to that voice properly. We didn't see how he woke up, but he mentioned that his pod broke much worse than Jim's did, causing that the waking up introduction maybe wasn't even there.
The list of conditions they show is far too unrealistic. He has half of known types of vasculitis, two or three granulomatous diseases, his aorta would be a light touch from completely rupturing from the 2 or 3 aneurysms they list, is actively bleeding in the brain and he has end stage syphilis. They could just have him be exposed to high doses of radiation or something, not copy-paste the google results from "vascular disease"
It would be a perfect sci-fix horror if we start with Aurora’s prospective, fall in love with Jim, but then found out she is not the only one he woke up--Jim was too lonely he woke up few ladies before Aurora, however none of them worked out as he wanted to, so he murdered them, Aurora is already the 5th.....😜
There was a movie (sorry but I forget the title) where this mad-scientist-type keeps cloning his dead wife. The first several find out what's happening and try to leave so he kills them. The 4th or 5th wife figures it out and kills him to escape, assuming the identity of his wife and taking over all of their assets. Yeah...this film could have been improved with a good twist of an ending.
I thought what if Jim actually did end up dying at the end and couldn’t be revived, then Aurora would be alone and it would be her being alone for a year or maybe two years and she gets desperate and wakes somebody up then end credits. It would have been a crazy way to end it
He meant that maybe the ship would make it so when the door illuminates only the person who has that room would see it light up. Don't think that's possible though
Maybe they used a giant UV light machine or something. I mean it is supposed to be the future I guess. It does seem strange... Where did the birds come from? Maybe they brought animals in cages like Noah's arc lol
We know at the end of the movie that they can put a person back to hibernation mode. So why not just wake up 85 people, tell them how to do it, and send all but one to hibernation and let each person rotate each year. This means each person only ages 1 extra year and they'd all be able to reach the planet safe.
Because there is only 1 Pod. Meaning that if they would rotate with 85 people, everyone would age at least 84 years.... What could work is if the two switched every year. By the end, they would have aged 47 years each, but they still would be around 75 years old. Ofc that would mean that they are alone for that timespan.
You know that the pods don't work like that, right..... The pods are meant to keep you in suspended animation not put you in suspended animation. They can't do that
@@birddabble2430 Actually, there were two operational pods - Aurora's and the medical lab capsule. And there were education resources. The engineer could have been placed in one of them after giving instructions/access key. A child - or pregnant person - could have been put in the other. A time share would have given both of them a chance to see the new world after educating the child to take a meaningful place in it.
Haha, I've said that many times: ok, the world's population dies off except for 1 man and 1 woman....last two people on earth....and he ends up sterile lol......or impotent lol..... The supreme being has chosen YOU, a good man, and YOU a good woman, to repopulate earth....now, ye go forth and multiply! Ahem, errr excuse me, ah, I think you made a mistake... The supreme being does not make mistakes.... Ah, well, hate to say this, but, err, ah.........I'm ....um....ah....sterile! arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I feel like this would have been a good horror movie if they had surprise revealed that chris pratt woke jen up early and then had him as an antagonist for the rest of the movie. Cus he knows all the ins and outs of the ship and how to control stuff and shes still relatively new, and him being alone for that time drove him crazy.
TheMightyGhost this movie is almost a remake of Pandorum. its a horror movie about an engineer who wakes up on a ship traveling to a new planet but there are only a few crazy people awake and the rest are asleep or killed by these man-eating monsters
I recommend watching nerdwriters video about this. He suggests writing the movie from Jennifer Lawrences perspective. Starting with her waking up. It was an interesting video
I watched this last night, and aside from the many plotholes, the moral dilemmas really killed me. It kept me up for a while thinking about how scary the event that happened in the movie were.
I like the way they built up the moral dilemma, and how Chris is clearly aware of it, and suffering from guilt. What irks me very much is: the movie tries to pretend that Chris had a sort of connection to her, read her writing and liked her personality, and that was why he picked her. And that personality just accidentally was in the body of a ten years younger, stunningly beautiful woman. Rrrrrrrrrright. Honestly, having her look a bit more average - quite bluntly, a bit more on Chris Pratt's level - would have worked better, because there wouldn't have been this "picked the prettiest sleeping girl he could find" vibe.
How awesome would it have been if they released two versions of the movie from each perspective at the same time, like an a side and b side. One is romance, the other one horror
When I watched this blind, I thought that one person wakes up and then when they die someone else wakes up. When Jim was going to walk outside without his spacesuit, I thought he actually would and Aurora would wake up afterward.
How upset are all the other passengers going to be when they find out those two have been raiding their stuff for a half century. On top of that, they are expecting four months of luxury cruise and will be waking up to Jungle Book.
Pick a choice, wake up 90 years earlier all alone, or wake up to a jungle book that last only 4 months. I prefer the latter. The crew and passenger have no one to blame except themselves for being so arrogant about a fail-safe in a TOP-10 concern.
Is nobody going to mention the fact that Jim or Aurora had to watch the other die when they got older, and had to spend the rest of their (old) life with a corpse on board? Alone?
Unless they died within minutes of each other. That has been known to happen. Either way, there wouldn't be a corpse on board. They could easily eject the corpse out the airlock.
Julia Caro Now that I think about, after one of them dies from old age the other could lock themself up in the medical-pod like Jim mentioned they can and get to live at the new planet even for a bit. Or maybe they could've taken turns in the medical-pod and calculate their time so they both won't be too lonely or old and actually get to reach the new planet
+abridgitt k. That alternate thing was *exactly* what my friends and I thought about at the end. But then I figured they wanted to spend more time together, and if they alternate, (i.e 44 years me 44 years you) they stil barely get time to communicate. Even if they switch every day, the switch has to be quick or else even minutes of time spent together adds up in 44 years. Plus, 44 years added to their 20s or 30s would still make them old.
Apparently Gus’ pod gave him syphilis. Because if you look at the list of disorders (12:48) the 9th one down in the 2nd column (and the 13th one down in the 3rd column) is syphilitic aortitis. Which is inflammation of the aorta associated with the tertiary stage of syphilis. Unless he had syphilis before going into the pod and it was overlooked which seems unlikely
Sin 118 - I guess the Homestead company is lucky that out of 5,000 passengers, the one guy that got wokened up early after a series of critical malfunctions is a mechanic....
Also, Jim's awake and his door lights up. But what if his thing didn't malfunction and he woke up at the same time as everyone else? Then based on this logic, EVERYONE'S room door would light up. Wouldn't that be confusing?
Surely the process of waking each pod up would be staggered? So that there is time for each person to find their room before the next comes, prevents crowding too.
They wouldn't be dead. No malfunction=no asteroid hit. Or what if it went around the asteroids thus no problems = everyone wakes up at once. They would need at least 30 minutes between wakes to not cause confusion. Multiple that with 5000 and you get 150 000 minutes or 2500 hours or 104 days So..... Ps.: If you knock it down to five minutes it is still 17.7 Days. It is possible it's just long to accomplish.
Why is nobody mentioning the fact that they probably would have had kids walking around in the final scene that were probably adults by the time the others woke up.
Yeah, that's what I had thought about! Also, why is the voice in the end the one of a young female telling about all the wonderful things they had achieved. I would have at least expected an old voice, wouldn't you?
I also thought about the child situation, but maybe Aurora and Jim were a thoughtful couple and figured out it wouldn't be life worth living for their children if they ever had them. Just imagine growing up, never going to school, never meeting anyone besides your parents and siblings, the moment your parents die... And let's not even talk about incest... It would be awkward for the rest of the 4998 passengers to wake up to witness _Deliverance_. :D
should've sinned for the fact that in actual space asteroid fields are much too spaced out to even notice an asteroid field. when nase sends probes out to planets beyond our own, they still do the math and put it on a course to make sure it won't hit any, but really the odds are so incredibly minuscule they wouldn't really have to. people / directors really be thinking asteroid fields aren't just literally 99.999% empty space.
Yeah, but I mean the scriptwriters cannot be bothered to calculate the approximate distance of a real star they put in the movie from the earth. Actually reading up on Asteroid fields would be a far stretch imo!
plot twist. that's exactly why the ship had no safety measures for an asteroid strike, because the chances were so incredibly low! you just justified one of the least believable parts of this movie! lol
Sometimes we have to believe in fate, too. I see that God or Goodness is touching in this story. Phenomena or miracles have happened many times in the world and our life. • Then, Don't underestimate anything in one way. • It's a sci-fi film, so think about the possibilities. Jim did not intend to awaken anyone until he began to love Aurora. I don't say that he did the right thing, but his situation forced him to do that. If Jim hadn't met Aurora, there would be no love or hope. Therefore, he would be alone and would become a mental patient, which would result in suicide. If Gus woke up in that situation, he wouldn't know what's happening here. Perhaps he would go to the auto doc to be hibernated. Or When he discovered the problem of the ship with his poor health, all would be late. Even if he had called certain crew members, it would have taken longer to get them back. Anyway, things would be a disaster. Aurora loved him with all her heart, she doesn't like to put him alone there. so she decided to stay with him while she had an opportunity to return to hibernation. Jim and Aurora cared about the food and other provisions of the ship so that other passengers could survive when they woke up. That's why they decided not to give birth to the kids. They might have received assistance from the auto doc. This story is about pure love. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonour others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. It isn’t happy with injustice, but it is happy with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hope, always perseveres. Love never fails”. [1 Corinthians 13:4-8]
You're right! That would make it more from her perspective - she wakes up, is hung-over, there's this guy explaining to her what happened ... different story, but at least as good because the audience would really hate Chris' guts. The way it is, viewers are kind of on his side after seeing how one year of isolation got to him.
It would make more sense if Chris Pratts character at the end wakes up inside the pod, making everything he had experienced a dream, but when his pod opens up, he is the only one alive and everyone else's pod is destroyed or cracked, and we see her pod next to his, but she is a skeleton. Then the android bartender comes out from the shadows with an axe and says, "Oh hello, I must have not opened your pod correctly during the wake-up procedure. A costly mistake, no worries though," and he walks towards Chirs Pratts character with the axe ready to strike and says, "This one's on the house!" ~Fin~
The heroes are travelling through space on a giant spaceship with crazy tech filled with all sorts of goods and you can't believe they have proper birth control up there ? 1) We're in the future. 2) They have the autodoc to safely perform any abortion if needed. 3) Don't you expect a luxury ship with 5000 passengers that are going to celebrate for two months to have plenty of condoms aboard :D?
I probably wouldn't want to have a child in that situation either, knowing that it will probably experience how a planet with fresh air looks at feels like when it reaches retirement age, if ever. Also being alone for a few decades since mom and dad won't live forever.
@@Zazume_ That wasn't the point of his comment. The point was that how on earth did they have sex for decades without getting pregnant!? There must've been a life's worth of condoms on the ship or either of them infertile! But yes I'd never want to have a child and then have to leave it alone for the rest of its life.
Or maybe they had a son, who as an adult took care of his parents when they were old, and once they passed away he (or she) got into the autodoc and was able to reach the end of the trip without aging, and so be as a "legacy" of their parents making the dream of reaching that new world come true, living for them the life they had wanted to have, and telling the story of everything that happened. Greetings from Chile...
@@alexamadori9884 heat transfers from a material to an other, In the movie it seems that they are near to the star but they are probably millions of km away from it. Imagine they were in a disntace of just 2.2 millions of km away, they would be ok because the spaceship probably has thermal shields that protect tbem from the heat and radiation. Nowadays we have these carbon-carbon shields that can protect us from more than 2.500°C. Btw in the movie it seems they are really close to the star but imagine being just 2.2M km away from the SUN, it would be that big. Just to have a comparisson in Earth we are 150M km away from the sun.
J Law - "However will we fix this sophisticated interstellar fusion reactor computer?" - Chris Pratt pulls a giant Lego block out of the first drawer he opens "I got this"
to be fair, the modularized computer parts would make sense (and the readily available replacement parts), since you wouldn't be able to fix a broken complicated computer in a timely manner while in space with limited supplies. then again, it also means you could have a space maintenance robot that could just find out the problem right a way and swap the computer module, and it just needs to run on it's own computer and talk to the main computer of the spaceship, so it can operate independently even when spaceship's computer manfunctions/offlines. then again, we wouldn't have this movie if this happened. oh well.
Plot Twist: The ship`s AI is actually the villain. Initiated as a malfunction, it wakes up a passenger with just enough skills to fix the malfunctions on the ship but they can only be fixed with at least a second person he has to wake up, but it has to be a passenger, he can not wake crew members. Leaving him only two choices: Unable to fix the problem single-handed he will die alone OR he commits a crime by waking s.o. up & forcing him/her into the same treadmill as him, but repairing the ship together and thereby saving over 5000 lives.
WHOA man I was watching The Shining last night and my mom goes "doesn't that bar scene make you think of the movie where those two people woke up in space...?" that's so nuts, the more you think about it the more similar it feels
Still would have been worth it to have another human being to talk to. Even if he hated that person, he'd be drawn enough to talk and interact just because humans are social creatures
The dark version would be She is still angry at Jim for waking her up, kills him or maybe he dies saving the ship, then she becomes lonely and at the very end we see her waking someone up so she doesn’t have to be alone, Doing exactly what Jim did to her.....😧
Sometimes we have to believe in fate, too. I see that God or Goodness is touching in this story. Phenomena or miracles have happened many times in the world and our life. • Then, Don't underestimate anything in one way. • It's a sci-fi film, so think about the possibilities. Jim did not intend to awaken anyone until he began to love Aurora. I don't say that he did the right thing, but his situation forced him to do that. If Jim hadn't met Aurora, there would be no love or hope. Therefore, he would be alone and would become a mental patient, which would result in suicide. If Gus woke up in that situation, he wouldn't know what's happening here. Perhaps he would go to the auto doc to be hibernated. Or When he discovered the problem of the ship with his poor health, all would be late. Even if he had called certain crew members, it would have taken longer to get them back. Anyway, things would be a disaster. Aurora loved him with all her heart, she doesn't like to put him alone there. so she decided to stay with him while she had an opportunity to return to hibernation. Jim and Aurora cared about the food and other provisions of the ship so that other passengers could survive when they woke up. That's why they decided not to give birth to the kids. They might have received assistance from the auto doc. This story is about pure love. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonour others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. It isn’t happy with injustice, but it is happy with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hope, always perseveres. Love never fails”.
That is actually what I thought was going to happen. That would have made a little more sense than her just suddenly getting over it and deciding to stay with him the rest of her life.
I was actually thinking this while watching the film that she wakes up a hot dude to get back at him or some chain reaction happens where people keep waking up other people and it devolves into lord of the flies. Would have been like a prisoner experiment type of situation.
Plus, if Aurora Lane had the situational awareness of a real journalist, she'd think about how 1. Jim was awake a year ahead of her 2. She coincidentally is an attractive woman his own age 3. He was nicely groomed and shaved upon meeting her, after a year alone, and 4. He didn't seem nearly surprised enough when he saw her.
he can't, because he was on wires, maybe that doesn't make sense but in other words he was limited because he had his route or something, just look at the part of the movie where Jim looks at him and say "oh he's a robot".
Did anyone else think her name was a Sleeping Beauty reference? I mean, she's beautiful, she's "sleeping", and her name is Aurora. Oh, and she gets mistreated by a man while sleeping. Hmm.
@@dmf81 Can't tell if troll, moron, or victim of fake news. en.wikisource.org/wiki/Grimm%27s_Household_Tales,_Volume_1/Little_Snow-White In the original the prince's servants trip over a tree stump causing the poisoned apple to dislodge itself from snow white's throat. Oh the horror! Call the Misogyny Police!
11:10 The plan wasn't to wake the passengers up a year before the arrival, but a few (I think it was 4) months. Which I think was not only for the enjoyment of the ship, but also for recovering purposes and to prepare the passengers for the new planet (for example instructions for the people who go there to work, like Jim).
@@someguybreaks well maybe the passengers still sleep/live on the ship even when they arrive on the new planet. i don't think some restaurants showers or random houses are already on the new planet lol
@@someguybreaks It is a money-making venture remember. Get them to spend a bunch of money in the 4 months and be in debt to the company but I agree why not drag it out a year
Never understood how the company would profit from that. It would take more than 240 years to get anything back from the planet, at the very least. And there's still the time needed to mine whatever would be of value. Plus the colony could just give the middle finger to the home planet since they are so far away since they are there with all the resources to start a new civilization. Unless Earth would be willing to slag the planet because of the rebellion, which they would be able to do with a relativist kill vehicle since they obviously have the ability to speed up to a fraction of the speed of light and steer towards a certain planet to hit it.
I was saying the same thing. This kind of stuff is why I've stopped watching CinemaSins, so self-absorbed. Anyway they are sort of right since the movie screws up it's explanation by insisting on having Homestead II in the epilogue sequence.
I just had to watch this flick again after so many years. I think the 4 month wait is for deceleration. We just have to imagine the ship has a way to decelerate gently from the “ludicrous “ speed it’s flying. We don’t want folks plastered to the front facing windows, do we?
This movie with its few logical flaws is still one of my favorite sci-fi films. Very unique sense of aloneness and the decision to basically end someone’s life by waking them up which is a duality in of itself, is just amazing.
I HATED the Fishburne Ex Machina. They need a character to open a door. So they let him wake up. Then they don't need him anymore. So they let him die. SERIOUSLY??
+Ryan Crins Maybe have the ship's identification system shut down or all the doors start malfunctioning? That way, it shows off more ways that the ship is breaking down aside from "roombas are falling from the sky" in addition to letting the characters go where they need to, and also ties in to when JLaw mentions she was stuck in her room for two days. That could lead to some contrived-feeling moments when the door to a plot-important room won't open when it has every other time though.
Yeah I was mad about that. There is absolutely NO REASON why e had to die. I'm only 12:45 into this video but I want to go ahead and also call BS on there only being one medical pod for 5,000 people.
You are silly. It sounds like you think they base the plot around Fishburnes character. But to answer your sub-question. Yes..that is how black characters in white movies live. The world has been split bewteeen cultures and races since dawn, no surprise I hope?
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There are a ton of alterations where this movie *could* have been a masterpiece. But sadly mainstream audiences can't handle dark and twisted psychological stories. They just want mushy romance. My favorite part of this movie was where after she finds out he woke her up, she goes into his room while he was asleep and starts beating him up. Then stops herself right before killing him. They likely wanted it to seem like she couldn't kill him because she still "loved" him or something, but I want to believe she didn't because then she herself would then be alone.
It's funny I rewatched this movie and discovered both could have had made it to the other world without dying of old age, 1:15:07 - "problems very simple. The clocks chips burnt out" on his hibernation pod, and if we go back towards scene.. 1:29:09 "there's replacement parts for everything", so if we take it that his hibernation pod can be repaired, and the medical centers make shift hibernation pod, couldn't both have made it?
But then you couldnt see the faint stars. Or maybe the glass automatically knows what brightness to adjust to based on what youre looking at. High tech for a spaceship that doesnt have spare pods
You can't even look at the Sun from Earth on a clear day, yet they can see a larger star basically right next to them without going blind with a giant viewer....
True, the right way to have done it is to not have windows at all (structural weakness and all that) but instead have viewing screens that show what the outside currently looks like.
They had plants in stasis (the roses) and most likely they would take the opportunity to bring fresh livestock to the colony planet. If you notice, in one scene in the cargo storage there is even a submarine hung up near the ceiling. Pretty good bet there is a veritable plethora of randomness in the cargo hold.
I think it was Nerdwriter1 who suggested that the movie would be much much better if it was rearranged to be from Jennifer Lawrence's perspective. The whole tone of the movie would change and our first instinct would be to not trust Chris Pratt's character instead of empathize with him, and when Jennifer learns that she was woken up early by Chris it would be more of a twist than an inevitability that she found out. They could definitely put the whole beginning when Chris Pratt wakes up in a later part of the movie to have you finally emphasize with the character after not trusting him and learning of the horrible thing he had done, showing a depth of character that isn't there when we are shown Chris Pratt's perspective of it first.
I don't think think so. The script it's not that good and neither are the actors, so that couldn't have been pulled off. I don't see how "not trust Christ Pratt's character" is possible, like he's either goofy or charming. The movie genre would still be a mess, going from sci fi, to romance to sci fi and on again, the third act would still flop. And i think if they would've go that way they would have got into more problems than they already have with feminist and crap, and Chris Pratt backstory on the third act won't have change that. Still Chris Pratt waking Jennifer Lawrence still should been the twist, sice that's what most of the marketing of the movie was based on
In a deleted scene, Arthur says he can make 1,436 different cocktails. If Jim tried only 1 per day, that's roughly 3.93 or 4 years trying not to wake someone else up. Even taking into account some nights where he tried 2 drinks and maybe a night where he didn't go there, that's still 3-4 years. The rest of the movie aside from deleted scenes says he was alone for 1 year (NOT 4), but what if it had been 4 years he held on? And, as has been said, if the movie started with Aurora, I think the reveal of him waking her up and feeling betrayed, BUT then somehow later coming across security footage or a database of logs or his journals realizing the depths of his loneliness of 4 years just walking halls, eating alone, going by the sleeping pods, seeing him agonize over whether or not to do wake her, etc... might have built up some sympathy.
Man, the REALLY sad thing is that this would have been so brilliant as a stealth thriller where we don't know Pratt opened her pod and, you know, presumably goes all stabby when she rejects him. Like, I almost wonder if that's how this script started out, but once J-Law and C-Pratt got attached, some genius decided it HAD to be rewritten into a romcom no matter how much sense it didn't make.
I remember reading about this, the original script had the girl come in at the end and the section with him getting depressed and beardy lasted much longer. I think it was also supposed to be creepier as well.
It's close to being a good film, and then you feel like the there was some company meddling involved. You could either do it 1) Start from where Aurora wakes up, follow the film from their normally, show her existential dread, and her getting stockholmed by the Pratt man. We get the reveal he woke her up, then we flash back. We see the first bit of the film and follow Jims story, where he slowly goes insane for a year. I want to push the insane a bit further than we see in the film. Or, 2) The film continues normally, we see all the normal shit that happens, and instead of blanketing over Aurora wanting to be with Jim, we discuss it further, look deeper into the morality of the whole thing. Or 3) The Films the same, we cut the middle relationship bit down by like 30%. We find out somethings wrong with the ship after waking Aurora (we don't need the Fishburne in any of these by the way), we do the reveal bit again, they argue, the bad stuff happens, and then we get Jim fixing the problem. But instead of the feels good ending, Jim dies. The back section of the film is watching Aurora, who in this would never have gotten back with Jim and apologised, deal with being the only one awake. The film ends with her waking up another passenger.
Can we have a sin for the fact that on a ship with top fucking futuristic medical stuff that can replace stem cells and basically do god damn anything, Jim and aurora weren't able to live to 110-120 years old????
exactly. 1:43:21 into the movie, notice that a function called "Telomere Reset" exist? It's basically mean reset aging, restore DNA's regenerative capability, and young again...
Well they would have to know about the function to actually use it. Then again after 80 or so years on the ship they should proably have run into it after several cases of probable health issues.
The fastest way to travel in space is to accelerate until the halfway point then turns the ship around and "decelerate" for the second half. For our current tech, this is expensive and uses too much fuel, for Sci-fi its plausible. The real sin is that the ship is not approaching the new planet engine first
Haven't seen the movie to have a clue if there's a way it could've been meant that way, but ... there are engines that also serve as power generators and certain engines can have a setting that doesn#t neccesarily generate any thrust. I'm guessing it's for stupid people who don't understand momentum in zero-G, but it MIGHT have an acceptable explanation attached. It might even just be a visualization for more clarity. That makes things less cleaar for people who know their science shit. Which reminds me ... Nope, the spinning motions doesn't create any 'friction' that would influece the ships momentum, if it was in motion after the ships no doubt existing maneuver thrusters were used to neutralize any unwanted momentum. Changing course like in a swingby would be very interesting, though. Completely unneccessary if you somehow managed to reach half the speed of light, though. So yeah, the science in the movie doesn't add up.
+drac5290 "The real sin is that the ship is not approaching the new planet engine first" mmhmm. I damn near threw a bottle at my tv when I saw that >:(
You sinned the fact that nobody expected the hibernation pods to malfunction. This is actually one of the most realistic aspects of this entire film. Like, so many disasters in the past happened or turned out worse than they could have been, just because everyone expected that these could never happen. Take the "unsinkable" titanic for example.. or the Kaprun disaster in Austria, where a fire occured in a train tunnel in a ski area - the doors couldn't be open, there weren't any window hammers and not even portable fire extinquishers, simply because nobody even expected a fire to ever break out. Not expecting a catastrophe to happen, is literally how catastrophes happen.
Maybe, but the Titanic and similar catastrophes (including some during space programs) taught people that lesson. You always, _always_ expect the worst, then devise plans to try and counter that. Furthermore, computers are well-known to glitch; companies and armies work hard to limit that, but it's impossible to eliminate. No computer scientist, technician or engineer, worth half their degree, would flat-out ignore the risk and have no backup. Of course, if things had been that way here, we would've had maintenance and repair robots instead of a bartender. And if they'd failed, the buildup of fuckups would've triggered technicians to be taken out of sleep... so we would've had no movie.
Realistically, no engineer back at that time believed the The Titanic to be LITERALLY unsinkable. They just didn't regard it as very likely - for the excellent reason that ship technology had improved so much by the early 20th century that the vast, vast majority of ships made the transatlantic journey without a sinking (a far cry from Columbus's time). Also, The Titanic actually DID make provisions for the possibility of the ship sinking - they did in fact have lifeboats after all. It's just that those provisions were inadequate. That's a lot less overconfident than believing your pods will NEVER fail.
Daniel Mladen Fun fact about the Titanic: the ship actually carried enough lifeboats that the law required. You probably know that many of the lifeboats left the Titanic less than half full because the passengers refused to believe that the ship could sink, but in truth even if all the boats had been filled to maximum capacity there still wouldn’t be a chance for everyone to escape. This has to do with people’s understanding of the lifeboats’ purpose. Even before the Titanic, there had been another major accident on the Atlantic involving an ocean liner and the ship went down within a few hours (I can’t remember the name of the ship :p) Everyone on board survived because the passengers were transferred in waves to a nearby rescue ship via the lifeboats. So the common understanding of the day was that lifeboats were meant to transfer passengers to rescue ships before the ship went down, not to hold passengers and crew AFTER the ship sank. So the number of lifeboats a ship was required to carry was calculated based on this really abstract formula determined by the Shipping Authority or something of the time, not based on the number of passengers a ship carried. So yeah, the Titanic complied with every safety requirement in tbe books and they definitely carried enough lifeboats by law, but that couldn’t have stopped the devastating amount of life that night :( (The subject of the Titanic is a very interesting one to research as it seemed completely inevitable from the point of view of 20th century society, yet with the benefit of hindsight there are so many factors that if altered even slightly could have at least reduced the number of lives lost. It wasn’t just that no one expected a disaster to happen-I mean, sure, that could account for the reactions of the ship’s passengers that night, but there are so many other underlying factors so intertwined, it becomes impossible to pinpoint the disaster to any one particular reason. I find the Titanic quite a fascinating study :))
A HUGE part of designing anything is asking questions. The number of instances in this movie that there should have been fail-safes is insane. From the ship not navigating around an asteroid belt, to the fact the ship could not repair itself, it was a horrible design, and it's a miracle none of the other thousands of voyages didn't also fail. As a designer you have to ask questions that while you hope and never expect to happen, and then create a solution for that problem. Obviously it is impossible to account for every possibility, malfunction, and failure, but something like avoiding an asteroid belt (seriously, what was that? You mean to tell me they didn't know that was there and set the initial flight plan around it?), or allowing a passenger or crew member to rehibernate by themselves is simply ignorant, these are obvious and should have been some of the first problems addressed in the design process. So to your point, you are correct in a way, but not in this instance.
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The computer told Jim when he woke up that he would be spending the last 4 months on the ship before reaching the new planet. That's why the ship has all the amenities.
Throat Auger and yet everyone woke up as homestead was in clear view and considering it looks about twice the distance from our moon there shouldn't even be that much amenities
The ship was traveling at half the speed of light at the point at which Laurence Fishburne awoke -That doesn't mean that's how fast it travels. A more plausible dynamic would be that the ship spends something like half it's voyage accelerating and half it's voyage decelerating. It might reach 75% of C by the time it starts slowing down. Also - the crew and passengers would be awake and going through colonial orientation for 4 months prior to debarking, but that does not mean they would have to be awakened when the ship is "4 months worth of distance" from it's destination. A more plausible dynamic would be that the ship awakens the passengers and crew upon arrival and enters a stable orbit around the planet for 4 months, during which time colonial supplies are systematically debarked to the new planet, so that when they do start ferrying passengers down to the planet there are already habitats, medical facilities, and rudimentary agri-facilities capable of sustaining the sudden arrival of 5200 humans. A more egregious sin than any of these would be how are (presumably) 2500 breeding pairs sufficient to sustain stable planetary colonization and isolated evolution, without controls in place to coordinate mating best-practices? Each passenger would have to be carefully screened for genetic diversity relative to all other passengers, as well as fertility concerns, and and then you'd just have to hope that not too much cousin-love starts taking place. Seems like you'd need to keep refreshing the population with more and more colonists every few hundred years I guess. Otherwise you'll end up after a few generations with and increasingly dull witted and unhealthy population of colonists.
+No Scope The thing is, if the ship traveled Brachistachrone-style, then why is it still accelerating _towards_ Homestead II when it's so close to the planet.
Fun fact: in the original story that this movie is based upon, the male character sacrifices himself to save the ship and the girl. Then the girl is all alone and faced with the same problem he was of being stranded and alone. She ends up doing the same thing he did and opening another pod to have human company. This movie is not a horror film. And if they stuck with the original story it would have been better.
alex ojideagu I’ve known plenty of men who couldn’t stand to be alone even just for a few minutes. The extent of time to which a person is able to cope with loneliness would be different for every individual. Personally I think I could handle it for quite a while.
Supernaturally American putting a woman in the same difficult circumstances isn’t anti feminism. It would more so be a comment on human nature than anything to do with men versus women or feminism, that’s quite a weird leap to make.
alex ojideagu Also because you were sexist I’m gonna have to turn on my sexist helmet and point out that I think you’re wrong. Since women are generally better people than men (more nurturing, empathetic, giving, etc.) I think a woman would internalize this problem much more severely than a man.
Watching this made me realize something. Something I'm incredibly surprised you didn't point out! The rotation is for gravity, but when the ship malfunctions the gravity turns on and off like its a switch, there's no way the rotation would stop, and if it stopped and started that quickly, there would be far greater consequences.
Rotational movement artificial gravity is never gonna work like it was shown in a movie anyway. The air inside the spacecraft would be pushed towards the outer radius of the ship, traveling between those 3 long sections with big radius would be impossible without traveling towards the center of the ship, which can only be done with elevators and feeling less gravity as you get towards the axis on "top floors" (normal acceleration = ω² *radius = gravity force applied to object standing at this radius away from spinning axis) which wasn't shown in the film. So it's magic :) Don't even think about the artificial gravity being as easy as spinning a damn ship around. Also how could those "floors" withstand the artificial weights of all the stuff onboard, especially where 1000 people should walk around feeling normal gravity? They must be walking on that same kind of energy field that ship is using at asteroid dangers then. This comfort can never be reached in space traveling, but well, that still looks good in a movie! :D And even if the artificial gravity is caused by some other special magical means, they would still feel the gravity from the ship spinning around, so yeah, this ruins the movie even more :D
So in the movie Jim says there’s no way to go back into hyper sleep. So how does the crew go back into hyper sleep for the return trip? It also makes no sense that the crew isn’t awakened in shifts to monitor things or at least a more sophisticated robot than the bar tender roaming around.
It was designed that way. There's a video out there from Nerdwriter that details on why the movie would have been so much better if it was done from J-Law's POV and not from Chris Pratt's. It would have been a sci-fi movie on par with "The Shining". Honestly, that would have been a significantly better movie than the predictable mess we got.
I wonder what would happen if you switch the movie with a big edit. Start the movie with Aurora waking up, and finish to the bit where "yes I woke you up". Then jump cut to the start of the movie, where Jim woke up at the start and finish when she wakes up. Then do the 3rd act.
I like the idea, but the part without Aurora seems a bit too long to me for a flashback. You'd be waiting for it to be over and get back to the real story.
John Grayson Interesting idea. The only problem is, you lose most of the point of the movie. The point was "Faced with the choice of being alone for the rest of your life, or waking up someone to join you, what do you do?" and not "Was it moral/understandable/okay what Jim did?" And the answer to the second question is obvious. No, it's not moral or okay, but it is understandable. The answer to the first question is a much more personal answer that depends more on individuals and human nature, and is therefore something that can actually be addressed through scifi, but is entirely ignored if you start by waking up JLaw. If you want "Horror movie in SPACE!" go watch Aliens, guys. Stop trying to ruin my scifi (even badly written scifi).
The fact that it is knocked in this situation that he speaks to himself out loud so frequently just shows how little is understood about being alone. I spend 23 hours a day alone. I talk to myself ALL THE TIME because it's the only way there could be a conversation it's just so..... obvious, I guess.... for people who talk to people... to not know what it's like to have no one to talk to. ever.
Considering that they developed a way to ship people across galaxys, its almost impossible for them not to develop some safety measure to put crew asleep if they woke up, and that they would not have a team of crew members alternating hyper-sleep in case something happened
The narrator still didn't talk about the heat of the star. I mean if they are passing or getting slingshot by the star, will they not be roasted nuggets? Plus where did all the birds come from at the end of the movie, out of tree seeds?
it was a red giant, red giants are a lot cooler than normal stars. im more concerend about the plants and animals they woke up. also, where did they get all that earth to plant the plants from? those animals and plants are there to colonize the new planet and to feed them in the future. also, the food on the ship is meant to last for one month for 5000 people. so 2 people eating every day would eat half the food available. and shouldnt the power outs have woken more people?
dude the more I look into it the more problems the movie has like the medical bed and aurora's pod couldn't they sleep in their pods also why didn't he try to wake up the crew? Or others, and what about the captains pod did they even try that also the diseases and ending like come one 612 he would have been dead as soon as he woke up a lot of these problems are cliche mistakes that further complicate the story because the writers wanted the story to have romance which is why I hate romantic subplots. At one point in the movie she was going to kill him
Lol, those 612 disorders are ridiculous! Not only do they repeat themselves, some conditions mentioned in different words essentially mean the same thing and they even have syphilitic aortitis mentioned twice! SYPHILITIC AORTITIS!! How in the heck did that guy's pod give him tertiary SYPHILIS???!!!
I just googeled what exactly that is. And it seems like it is something that could be even happen through something else. i.e. a "to us magical" hibernation pod. So he never had syphilis. But the pod makes something what has the same "picture" as a long term effect.
The bigger question is: How the fuck has he gotten the Necrotic plaque? What a movie that would have been to see fishburn fight the lichking for the last popcicle in the freezer xD.
I'm surprised he didn't point out that they look directly at the sun for about a solid minute with no consequences. We can't look at the sun here on Earth. But if you're in space and attractive, go for it.
Luke Bas, It stands to reason that if you have a ship capable of interstellar travel then it has the ability to deal with large amounts of radiation as the passengers would all die of cancer if there wasn't some sort of shielding present.
Regarding sin 70: Travelling near the speed of light lets your internal clock go slower. So they probably counted the 30 years on the ship. You can even measure this on planes. If you put a clock on a plane and let them fly, you will see the clock going a little bit slower.
They probably would've run out of food pretty soon. If anything they should've woken up the crew, not the passengers. Maybe a hibernation pod engineer who could've fixed their pods.
The problem with this movie was some guy who thought: "What if we make a movie about a guy and a girl who lives alone in a luxury spaceship." And pretty much ended the planning of the story at that point.
There is another video floating about youtube which points out how badly edited this story is, as well as being a shit story. It would be much better to start the movie with J law waking up and have the audience not know that Jim woke her up until later in the movie.
I’m convinced he didn’t even watch the movie 😭 They clearly state they wake up 4 months early so they can prepare for when they land. Like jesus man😂😂😂😂
Because when you go to the theme park, they don't have a giant wheel with millions of seats. Everybody has to wait for their chance. That spacesuit thingy was like a theme park ride to experience zero gravity. Not for running away from the ship or anything. Come to think of it, what would be the use of mutiny in space? Gonna die there eventually, just waaaaaaay faster than you would at sea.
that is simple my friend. if you remember the plot you will remember that they are charging for everything. therefore you can understand that they will charge very heavily for space walking as well. if sending a 1-minute video to earth cost 6k just imagine how much they would be charging for spacewalk time LOLZ. it would not be crowded as only the super rich would be willing to pay for such luxury. Jim didn't care since he was not going to pay the bill anyway. lol
I adore Michael Sheen. That being said -- I wish he weren't in the Twilight. I would, however, remove ALL the sins if he did that INSANE giggle here as well.
You mentioned that if the movie was filmed from Jennifer Lawrence's perspective, it'd be a horror. You're right, and had the movie started with her waking up, and only given us insight into Jim's character and perspective AFTER she discovers what he did, the movie would have been a thousand times better. The movie in its final state treated the audience members as idiots by delivering boring exposition, and telling us what to feel through Jim's eyes, however had we not known Jim's intentions or justification for what he does until 2/3 through the movie, it would've created tension and unpredictability through us sympathizing with Lawrence's character, and eventually forced us to choose whether or not Jim was justified in his decision due to not seeing his side of the story until later on. Very poor screenwriting can be fixed with just a few edits. Edit: Because nobody is reading my replies, I wanted to clarify that this idea was first presented to me by Nerdwriter after he got the idea from another TH-camr whose name I've forgotten. Check out the Nerdwriter for a better explanation than this comment, and please stop calling me a thief - this is how I felt when I saw the movie on opening night, the Nerdwriter simply explained it in a way that let me write this comment in the first place.
Totherphoenix Predictable, yup. Justify, I don't think so. Give her the capacity to forgive yes. Nothing for the story, I disagree. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
It's not the story that the writer wanted to tell, though. It's obvious that this is a love story, not psychological horror. As a writer, you make this kind of decision BEFORE the script is finished. The real sin is that the writer made a bad decision by letting his main character do an inexcusable thing and not addressing it as much as it deserves. Which might have been a tall order for a movie, so he should have found another way to get the two lone people together like it was needed. And yes, another malfunctioning pod would have been such a way. Not a great way, because it's 'just the coincidence that was needed', but if you have the choice between a weak excuse and a disgustingly terrible one, better pick weak. It#s the smaller of the two evils.
Totherphoenix That kind of reminds me of 10 Cloverfield Lane. Almost exactly, too. If you haven't seen it, it's really really good and deals with isolation and that type of tension.
This really WOULD be a horror movie if you switch Fishburne and Pratt as soon as Aurora found out that she was purposefully woken up. She could be 'understanding' because Jim is hot and around her age, but if he was an older less attractive man who preferred the company of a beautiful young woman? Then it would be a totally different story.
Yeah, I can totally see Hollywood throwing big money into a project about an oldass black pervert essentially holding a young blonde girl against her will.
thinking after 30 years of hibernation he’d know exactly where he is, is not a sin. Like who’s to say he wasn’t put to hibernation in a completely different settings. This movie gets slander so undeservingly
This is the extreme version of waking up before all of the other people at a sleepover, and not knowing what to do
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Underrated comment here. The only one that actually made me laugh
LOL... Lil' late but I was ALWAYS that kid.
If this aint tru tho
Factssss
If we found out that he woke her up when she finds out that would have been huge! It would have made that scene freaking iconic.
The only thing though is that the bartender telling her would have no context. She would have to learn from Gus, but I think that dynamic would be interesting as well.
watch deleted scenes: She (& audience!) could have figured it out from clues jim left around!
Agreed.
I think that could have affected Chris Prats career
@@MiguelAngel-vt4ge how?
"Why does Jim have no idea where he is?" Man sometimes I wake up from a nap in my own house and have no idea where I am lmao
it happens to me too. I ask what's going on so that someone else can give tons of exposition to the audience.
Also, ¨Character wakes up disoriented from hibernation¨ cliché. So it's still a sin, just not the one Jeremy pointed out.
And if I remember correctly, the AI even explains to him that he may feel out of it because he just woke up from hibernation.
+subwayvesubscriber "Hum, how do we make sure that people waking up from hibernation know what's going on? I know! let's put a half disembodied head just inches away from their faces! that surely won't freak out a disoriented person! genius!¨. Also, let's not forget, ¨Cryogenic pod malfunctions and wakes up character at an inconvenient time/place¨cliché from ALL THE MOVIES.
Dorian Arbos Calm down, there. I wasn't defending the movie or its logic or any other movie's logic, so there's really no need for the fuss.
So we're not gonna talk about how all the people that woke up at the right time had to find two corpses?
Not only the corpses: the smell, the bacteria,.....
Why would anyone need to talk about that?
Why would we? Doesn’t matter
They probably had kids
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They probably wouldn’t want their kids to suffer the same torment.
I think they should have made the movie from Aurora’s perspective. So it starts with her waking up and exploring the ship, finding Jim, falling in love with him and then, when he reveals to her that he woke her up, it is an actual revelation in the plot that NOBODY sees coming.
A dude did that, and it works. See th-cam.com/video/Gksxu-yeWcU/w-d-xo.html. Jump to 1:23 to skip the explanation of the film that you already know.
I have also seen that idea (and the video), but I'd take it one step further, and it would fix some things about this movie.
So start with her. Then the betrayal, the crisis, and the flashback. During the flashback, as he's building a relationship with the bartender, the bartender is dropping subtle suggestions that are almost a little too on the nose. Then have it revealed that as the ship's networked systems were being overloaded, they reached out for help and the bartender was charged with fixing the systems. Well, there's not much a bartender can do, but a bartender knows people. So it makes the call to wake a human. Or doesn't have direct access to the staff either, so it searches the crew for an engineer and wakes Jim. However rules of being a bartender, you can't tell people what to do, so all he could do is drop subtle hints. Now Jim is the one betrayed and spirals into depression. Eventually he forgives the bartender so they can have a clear relationship when she wakes up and movie proceeds.
I think that could have affected Chris Prats career
That's actually a way better and complex story then this. Would have been nice to see
Zachary Wilson so true
The sad thing is that the crew would spend the next month erasing the event from existence. Can't have the passengers knowing that two people woke-up early and prevented the destruction of the ship. It's bad for business and morale.
It's a colony ship where humans are trying to colonize another planet, writing a new human history. Do they really want to start off their history books with a lie?
Yes
Wesley Wallace there’s a reason for the saying “history is written by the victors” it doesn’t always mean it’s right.
@@wesleywallace4426 Happened before.
Except that it would take at least another century for anyone on Earth to know about it.
Plot twist: The ship purposely woke Jim up to fix the ship.
Hugh Vupy exactly.
Hugh Vupy 😂😂
But why Jim and not someone from the crew?
@@hadassawolf2332 he is a mechanic
@@dredre2005 Still a crew member would know the ship better and have a better idea on how to fix it
A more gripping and sympathetic story imo would’ve been someone waking up early and grappling with the decision to wake someone they already loved for company, a spouse/sibling/parent. They don’t want to be alone but they also don’t want to deprive a loved one of a new life. THAT would’ve been super upsetting and ambiguous.
True except that why she woke up early is cringy.
He had a huge crush on her, which is the reason he woke HER up and not some random other person.
So what you describe is basically just what actually happened in the movie.
@@teramalik7260He replayed the same 30 sec clip over again knowing nothing really about her. If she was even slightly less attractive, that would've saved her from being woken up by him.
Would he done the same thing to someone he actually knew and cared like his mom or a brother just so he wouldn't die alone is what they're implying
It's kind of depressing when you think about how one of them probably died of old age before the other one and the other was just alone for a few months or years until they too died of old age
Not really. Jennifer Lawrence's pod was fixed but she chose to not use it and stay with Chris Pratt.
When one of them died, the other one could have gone back into the pod if they wanted to.
He's like a dozen years older than her and men don't live as long so likely she would've gone into the autodoc although being old on a colony planet would've probably kind of sucked but she'd certainly have the celebrity she wanted.
Good mention. However, that far in the future, with medical technology such as med pods, I think it safe to assume that the life span between genders has most likely been slammed shut.
Yeah they're certainly working on it but he's still 13 years older. I still don't get why they have two of everything but not even one spare autodoc. Even if they believe the unsinkable analogy with the lifepods never fail with more than 5000 people on a ship it's definitely possible to have two really sick or hurt people at the same time.
31webseries nahh he woke up a year before her. No way he's 13 years older
When she goes nuts and is about to kill him in the middle of the night with the bat, he just relaxes to let her and then she drops the bat realizing she can't kill the only other person she can interact with for the rest of her life. That scene is pure genius.
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If it took u that long too realize that then you're just a serial killer. That means: That she didn't take one second to think or give a damn about the consequences
Genius my ass😂 it was freaking stupid
LO. I never forgot this scene. She beat him up like how a EXACTLY like how in every way a man would do to another man. LMAO.
@@secretagent0280 english guy. English.
Shes kind of a psychopath to be honest. I don’t know many women who would behave like that let alone a guy doing that to a woman
When Jim wakes his pod tells him he's in perfect health. Wouldn't Gus's pod have told him he was, at the very least, extremely sick and to seek medical attention immediately? Like maybe before coughing up blood?
Maybe he was so dizzy while waking up (because of his illnesses) that he couldn't listen to that voice properly. We didn't see how he woke up, but he mentioned that his pod broke much worse than Jim's did, causing that the waking up introduction maybe wasn't even there.
he knew
The list of conditions they show is far too unrealistic. He has half of known types of vasculitis, two or three granulomatous diseases, his aorta would be a light touch from completely rupturing from the 2 or 3 aneurysms they list, is actively bleeding in the brain and he has end stage syphilis.
They could just have him be exposed to high doses of radiation or something, not copy-paste the google results from "vascular disease"
his pod was malfunctioning. it would be messed up, unable to warn him of his health issues
He was apart of a plot device. That's why.
It would be a perfect sci-fix horror if we start with Aurora’s prospective, fall in love with Jim, but then found out she is not the only one he woke up--Jim was too lonely he woke up few ladies before Aurora, however none of them worked out as he wanted to, so he murdered them, Aurora is already the 5th.....😜
Right out the airlock... Or wake up multiple and have a harem.
Then when she finds out truth, she kills jim then after few months she too becomes lonely and depressed, so she decide to wake up someone else.
There was a movie (sorry but I forget the title) where this mad-scientist-type keeps cloning his dead wife. The first several find out what's happening and try to leave so he kills them. The 4th or 5th wife figures it out and kills him to escape, assuming the identity of his wife and taking over all of their assets.
Yeah...this film could have been improved with a good twist of an ending.
I've seen that movie
@@MarkAhumuza what's the name of the movie?
I thought what if Jim actually did end up dying at the end and couldn’t be revived, then Aurora would be alone and it would be her being alone for a year or maybe two years and she gets desperate and wakes somebody up then end credits. It would have been a crazy way to end it
Llama holy shit
She doesnt know how to open it though
You would think the people paid millions of dollars would figure this shit out
Llama and kinda hypocritical lol
With a whole year of nothing to do, even you would learn how technology works and open pod up.
How was the "your door will illuminate for you" going to work if all the passengers were waking up?
Maybe the door illuminated for that person only
My point was that there would be a lot of passengers there at once. Lots of doors would be lit up.
"Maybe the door illuminated for that person only"...? -_-
Doesn't help. If there are lots of people around, then lots of doors will be lit up. A person cannot tell which door is meant for them.
He meant that maybe the ship would make it so when the door illuminates only the person who has that room would see it light up. Don't think that's possible though
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that in the ending THERE ARE BIRDS?
Johnny Timberlake and trees and plants. The ship had seeds and eggs and all for them to grow in the new planet🤷🏽♂️.
Maybe they used a giant UV light machine or something. I mean it is supposed to be the future I guess. It does seem strange... Where did the birds come from? Maybe they brought animals in cages like Noah's arc lol
Somebody left the eggs out again. Wife is going to be pissed.
I watched til the end just to see if he’d make a comment. There’s chickens and birds... HOW?!??
Johnny Timberlake BOIDS!! silly boids!!
We know at the end of the movie that they can put a person back to hibernation mode. So why not just wake up 85 people, tell them how to do it, and send all but one to hibernation and let each person rotate each year. This means each person only ages 1 extra year and they'd all be able to reach the planet safe.
Because there is only 1 Pod. Meaning that if they would rotate with 85 people, everyone would age at least 84 years....
What could work is if the two switched every year. By the end, they would have aged 47 years each, but they still would be around 75 years old. Ofc that would mean that they are alone for that timespan.
You know that the pods don't work like that, right..... The pods are meant to keep you in suspended animation not put you in suspended animation. They can't do that
@@nocloutchasersundermywatch yeah that's right.
@@birddabble2430 Actually, there were two operational pods - Aurora's and the medical lab capsule. And there were education resources. The engineer could have been placed in one of them after giving instructions/access key. A child - or pregnant person - could have been put in the other. A time share would have given both of them a chance to see the new world after educating the child to take a meaningful place in it.
The best twist would have been if Aurora was a lesbian.
Isomer Mashups actually... That might have been genius.
Then he would throw her back in the pod and pull out another slu
Plottwist, Jim uses the autodoc to go full transgender, because he's thirsty af. And they scissored happily ever after !
Haha, I've said that many times: ok, the world's population dies off except for 1 man and 1 woman....last two people on earth....and he ends up sterile lol......or impotent lol.....
The supreme being has chosen YOU, a good man, and YOU a good woman, to repopulate earth....now, ye go forth and multiply!
Ahem, errr excuse me, ah, I think you made a mistake...
The supreme being does not make mistakes....
Ah, well, hate to say this, but, err, ah.........I'm ....um....ah....sterile!
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Then he wakes up another girl to fuck, but she's also lesbian and fucks Aurora instead.
I feel like this would have been a good horror movie if they had surprise revealed that chris pratt woke jen up early and then had him as an antagonist for the rest of the movie. Cus he knows all the ins and outs of the ship and how to control stuff and shes still relatively new, and him being alone for that time drove him crazy.
TheMightyGhost this movie is almost a remake of Pandorum. its a horror movie about an engineer who wakes up on a ship traveling to a new planet but there are only a few crazy people awake and the rest are asleep or killed by these man-eating monsters
TheMightyGhost what if they shot most of the film the same way but didnt tell chtis hes the badguy
I recommend watching nerdwriters video about this. He suggests writing the movie from Jennifer Lawrences perspective. Starting with her waking up. It was an interesting video
BarDs Mat except pandorum was actually good!
I actually watched that the other day on Starz and made the connection..good call.
CinemaSins Syndrome: Not being able to watch a movie without sinning it because of your habit of watching too much cinemasins
Brian Jean I am a. CinemaSins Syndrome survivor.
I HAVE THIS
+jbvader721 I suggest the name to officially be "CinemaSindrome".
Good one. "My name is _________ and I am a CinemaSindrome survivor."
Brian Jean People won't watch movies with me anymore because I feel the need to point out everything wrong with the movie.
I watched this last night, and aside from the many plotholes, the moral dilemmas really killed me. It kept me up for a while thinking about how scary the event that happened in the movie were.
I like the way they built up the moral dilemma, and how Chris is clearly aware of it, and suffering from guilt.
What irks me very much is: the movie tries to pretend that Chris had a sort of connection to her, read her writing and liked her personality, and that was why he picked her.
And that personality just accidentally was in the body of a ten years younger, stunningly beautiful woman. Rrrrrrrrrright.
Honestly, having her look a bit more average - quite bluntly, a bit more on Chris Pratt's level - would have worked better, because there wouldn't have been this "picked the prettiest sleeping girl he could find" vibe.
How awesome would it have been if they released two versions of the movie from each perspective at the same time, like an a side and b side. One is romance, the other one horror
Team 974 Would be interesting
A horror movie where eventually the victim falls in love with the creep. Lol
When I watched this blind, I thought that one person wakes up and then when they die someone else wakes up. When Jim was going to walk outside without his spacesuit, I thought he actually would and Aurora would wake up afterward.
Team 974 Not awesome at all, one film was bad enough.
In the horror; Arthur brakes all the bottles of booze.
How upset are all the other passengers going to be when they find out those two have been raiding their stuff for a half century. On top of that, they are expecting four months of luxury cruise and will be waking up to Jungle Book.
They'll be out looking for the bare necessities I guess...
yarpen26 I hate you
yarpen26 Ha! 😄
Pick a choice, wake up 90 years earlier all alone, or wake up to a jungle book that last only 4 months. I prefer the latter. The crew and passenger have no one to blame except themselves for being so arrogant about a fail-safe in a TOP-10 concern.
I died at jungle book
Is nobody going to mention the fact that Jim or Aurora had to watch the other die when they got older, and had to spend the rest of their (old) life with a corpse on board? Alone?
Julia Caro Unless a double-suicide happened... Mirai Nikki style
Unless they died within minutes of each other. That has been known to happen.
Either way, there wouldn't be a corpse on board. They could easily eject the corpse out the airlock.
Unless they were too attached to the corpse to jettison them, but yes, they could.
Julia Caro Now that I think about, after one of them dies from old age the other could lock themself up in the medical-pod like Jim mentioned they can and get to live at the new planet even for a bit.
Or maybe they could've taken turns in the medical-pod and calculate their time so they both won't be too lonely or old and actually get to reach the new planet
+abridgitt k.
That alternate thing was *exactly* what my friends and I thought about at the end. But then I figured they wanted to spend more time together, and if they alternate, (i.e 44 years me 44 years you) they stil barely get time to communicate. Even if they switch every day, the switch has to be quick or else even minutes of time spent together adds up in 44 years.
Plus, 44 years added to their 20s or 30s would still make them old.
Apparently Gus’ pod gave him syphilis.
Because if you look at the list of disorders (12:48) the 9th one down in the 2nd column (and the 13th one down in the 3rd column) is syphilitic aortitis. Which is inflammation of the aorta associated with the tertiary stage of syphilis.
Unless he had syphilis before going into the pod and it was overlooked which seems unlikely
racist much? How are you talking about Morpheus bro
there's literally aortic dissection there which means immididate death
@@nigenex3501 It also means Gus had it for more than 10 years....
Sin 118 - I guess the Homestead company is lucky that out of 5,000 passengers, the one guy that got wokened up early after a series of critical malfunctions is a mechanic....
Jim ex machina
Also aurora ex machina
because the movie has to happen
because of god@@fuzzblightyear145
siin 119, how the hack did wildlife get into the ship?
Aurora....Sleeping Beauty...Brier Rose...Rose from Titanic. Ohhhhh I get it.
Aurora! Of course. :D
holy shit.
took me one whole goddamn year.
Briar Rose IS sleeping beauty, it's just the Brother's Grimm version that she's named Briar Rose instead of Aurora
In the Disney version, Sleeping Beauty was called Briar Rose while she was growing up in the care of the fairies.
@@wmckinney6603 Yes I know
Also, Jim's awake and his door lights up.
But what if his thing didn't malfunction and he woke up at the same time as everyone else? Then based on this logic, EVERYONE'S room door would light up. Wouldn't that be confusing?
Nice catch! Imagine someone breaking into your room every 5 minutes 😂
Surely the process of waking each pod up would be staggered? So that there is time for each person to find their room before the next comes, prevents crowding too.
they would have been dead remember?
They would've woken up dead.
They wouldn't be dead. No malfunction=no asteroid hit.
Or what if it went around the asteroids thus no problems = everyone wakes up at once.
They would need at least 30 minutes between wakes to not cause confusion. Multiple that with 5000 and you get 150 000 minutes or 2500 hours or 104 days So.....
Ps.: If you knock it down to five minutes it is still 17.7 Days. It is possible it's just long to accomplish.
The part that you miss is if Pratt wasn't woken early and Aroa was not woken up by him, the Ship would have exploded
Why is nobody mentioning the fact that they probably would have had kids walking around in the final scene that were probably adults by the time the others woke up.
Yeah, that's what I had thought about! Also, why is the voice in the end the one of a young female telling about all the wonderful things they had achieved. I would have at least expected an old voice, wouldn't you?
I thought it was Aurora's voice, will have to rewatch that part.
Yes it was, but since it was clearly a recorded message, you should've expected an old version of her voice.
ahh true true good catch, she would have been a granny talking about the life they had.
I also thought about the child situation, but maybe Aurora and Jim were a thoughtful couple and figured out it wouldn't be life worth living for their children if they ever had them. Just imagine growing up, never going to school, never meeting anyone besides your parents and siblings, the moment your parents die... And let's not even talk about incest... It would be awkward for the rest of the 4998 passengers to wake up to witness _Deliverance_. :D
should've sinned for the fact that in actual space asteroid fields are much too spaced out to even notice an asteroid field. when nase sends probes out to planets beyond our own, they still do the math and put it on a course to make sure it won't hit any, but really the odds are so incredibly minuscule they wouldn't really have to. people / directors really be thinking asteroid fields aren't just literally 99.999% empty space.
That’s actually a really cool fact
Thanks dude
Nasa
Yeah, but I mean the scriptwriters cannot be bothered to calculate the approximate distance of a real star they put in the movie from the earth. Actually reading up on Asteroid fields would be a far stretch imo!
Brett if they had thought this through this movie wouldn't be born at all!
plot twist. that's exactly why the ship had no safety measures for an asteroid strike, because the chances were so incredibly low! you just justified one of the least believable parts of this movie! lol
It’d be a cool idea to have not let the audience know Chris Pratt didn’t wake her up. Imagine that twist
Sometimes we have to believe in fate, too. I see that God or Goodness is touching in this story.
Phenomena or miracles have happened many times in the world and our life.
• Then, Don't underestimate anything in one way.
• It's a sci-fi film, so think about the possibilities.
Jim did not intend to awaken anyone until he began to love Aurora.
I don't say that he did the right thing, but his situation forced him to do that.
If Jim hadn't met Aurora, there would be no love or hope.
Therefore, he would be alone and would become a mental patient, which would result in suicide.
If Gus woke up in that situation, he wouldn't know what's happening here. Perhaps he would go to the auto doc to be hibernated.
Or
When he discovered the problem of the ship with his poor health, all would be late.
Even if he had called certain crew members, it would have taken longer to get them back.
Anyway, things would be a disaster.
Aurora loved him with all her heart, she doesn't like to put him alone there.
so she decided to stay with him while she had an opportunity to return to hibernation.
Jim and Aurora cared about the food and other provisions of the ship so that other passengers could survive when they woke up. That's why they decided not to give birth to the kids. They might have received assistance from the auto doc.
This story is about pure love.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonour others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. It isn’t happy with injustice, but it is happy with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hope, always perseveres. Love never fails”.
[1 Corinthians 13:4-8]
But he did wake her up? I'm confused
You're right! That would make it more from her perspective - she wakes up, is hung-over, there's this guy explaining to her what happened ... different story, but at least as good because the audience would really hate Chris' guts.
The way it is, viewers are kind of on his side after seeing how one year of isolation got to him.
@@crazyclemsonfan8305 you stupid or what?
Cool idea indeed but it would require serious rewriting of the script. Sometimes simpler is better.
It would make more sense if Chris Pratts character at the end wakes up inside the pod, making everything he had experienced a dream, but when his pod opens up, he is the only one alive and everyone else's pod is destroyed or cracked, and we see her pod next to his, but she is a skeleton.
Then the android bartender comes out from the shadows with an axe and says, "Oh hello, I must have not opened your pod correctly during the wake-up procedure. A costly mistake, no worries though," and he walks towards Chirs Pratts character with the axe ready to strike and says, "This one's on the house!" ~Fin~
not having kids over 90 years?? thats good birth control there
petealwayslovesu exactly my thoughts
The heroes are travelling through space on a giant spaceship with crazy tech filled with all sorts of goods and you can't believe they have proper birth control up there ? 1) We're in the future. 2) They have the autodoc to safely perform any abortion if needed. 3) Don't you expect a luxury ship with 5000 passengers that are going to celebrate for two months to have plenty of condoms aboard :D?
I probably wouldn't want to have a child in that situation either, knowing that it will probably experience how a planet with fresh air looks at feels like when it reaches retirement age, if ever. Also being alone for a few decades since mom and dad won't live forever.
@@Zazume_ That wasn't the point of his comment. The point was that how on earth did they have sex for decades without getting pregnant!? There must've been a life's worth of condoms on the ship or either of them infertile! But yes I'd never want to have a child and then have to leave it alone for the rest of its life.
Or maybe they had a son, who as an adult took care of his parents when they were old, and once they passed away he (or she) got into the autodoc and was able to reach the end of the trip without aging, and so be as a "legacy" of their parents making the dream of reaching that new world come true, living for them the life they had wanted to have, and telling the story of everything that happened. Greetings from Chile...
10:00 you cant even stare at the sun ON EARTH, theres is no way for them to stare at a star this close and not get binded.
Vaporized*
@@alexamadori9884 heat transfers from a material to an other, In the movie it seems that they are near to the star but they are probably millions of km away from it. Imagine they were in a disntace of just 2.2 millions of km away, they would be ok because the spaceship probably has thermal shields that protect tbem from the heat and radiation. Nowadays we have these carbon-carbon shields that can protect us from more than 2.500°C. Btw in the movie it seems they are really close to the star but imagine being just 2.2M km away from the SUN, it would be that big. Just to have a comparisson in Earth we are 150M km away from the sun.
Depends on the age of the star really young stars are not powerful in comparison to an older one
@@seanomanary5691 well yes and no, it's a really complicated topic and crticizing the movie for that is really stupid tbh
Three words: automatic tinted glass.
J Law - "However will we fix this sophisticated interstellar fusion reactor computer?" - Chris Pratt pulls a giant Lego block out of the first drawer he opens "I got this"
You mean Emmett? Lol
Man they really simplified nuclear physics , thermo nuclear dynamics and quantum physics into hot swapping giant floppy disks.
Everything is awesome lmao
@@NoxLegend1 The ship was automated, they only had to fix the computer.
to be fair, the modularized computer parts would make sense (and the readily available replacement parts), since you wouldn't be able to fix a broken complicated computer in a timely manner while in space with limited supplies.
then again, it also means you could have a space maintenance robot that could just find out the problem right a way and swap the computer module, and it just needs to run on it's own computer and talk to the main computer of the spaceship, so it can operate independently even when spaceship's computer manfunctions/offlines.
then again, we wouldn't have this movie if this happened.
oh well.
Plot Twist: The ship`s AI is actually the villain. Initiated as a malfunction, it wakes up a passenger with just enough skills to fix the malfunctions on the ship but they can only be fixed with at least a second person he has to wake up, but it has to be a passenger, he can not wake crew members. Leaving him only two choices: Unable to fix the problem single-handed he will die alone OR he commits a crime by waking s.o. up & forcing him/her into the same treadmill as him, but repairing the ship together and thereby saving over 5000 lives.
That bar is really giving me "The Shining" vibes.
Special Agent Washing Tub thought it was only me
It's clearly a nod to the shining.
I was rather annoyed he wasn't named "Lloyd" ...
WHOA man I was watching The Shining last night and my mom goes "doesn't that bar scene make you think of the movie where those two people woke up in space...?" that's so nuts, the more you think about it the more similar it feels
Special Agent Washing Tub first thing i said when i saw it
Imagine if he woke her up and she turned out to be a lesbian lol
Trisha Bharti I think u have forgotten it is a movie ☺
Imagine if she had a dick
Trisha Bharti yeh lol, that was exactly my first thought when i saw this movie.
what a twist!!
Still would have been worth it to have another human being to talk to. Even if he hated that person, he'd be drawn enough to talk and interact just because humans are social creatures
The dark version would be She is still angry at Jim for waking her up, kills him or maybe he dies saving the ship, then she becomes lonely and at the very end we see her waking someone up so she doesn’t have to be alone, Doing exactly what Jim did to her.....😧
Sometimes we have to believe in fate, too. I see that God or Goodness is touching in this story.
Phenomena or miracles have happened many times in the world and our life.
• Then, Don't underestimate anything in one way.
• It's a sci-fi film, so think about the possibilities.
Jim did not intend to awaken anyone until he began to love Aurora.
I don't say that he did the right thing, but his situation forced him to do that.
If Jim hadn't met Aurora, there would be no love or hope.
Therefore, he would be alone and would become a mental patient, which would result in suicide.
If Gus woke up in that situation, he wouldn't know what's happening here. Perhaps he would go to the auto doc to be hibernated.
Or
When he discovered the problem of the ship with his poor health, all would be late.
Even if he had called certain crew members, it would have taken longer to get them back.
Anyway, things would be a disaster.
Aurora loved him with all her heart, she doesn't like to put him alone there.
so she decided to stay with him while she had an opportunity to return to hibernation.
Jim and Aurora cared about the food and other provisions of the ship so that other passengers could survive when they woke up. That's why they decided not to give birth to the kids. They might have received assistance from the auto doc.
This story is about pure love.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonour others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. It isn’t happy with injustice, but it is happy with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hope, always perseveres. Love never fails”.
WTF. LOL.
That is actually what I thought was going to happen. That would have made a little more sense than her just suddenly getting over it and deciding to stay with him the rest of her life.
I was actually thinking this while watching the film that she wakes up a hot dude to get back at him or some chain reaction happens where people keep waking up other people and it devolves into lord of the flies. Would have been like a prisoner experiment type of situation.
That's actually a great idea
Plus, if Aurora Lane had the situational awareness of a real journalist, she'd think about how 1. Jim was awake a year ahead of her 2. She coincidentally is an attractive woman his own age 3. He was nicely groomed and shaved upon meeting her, after a year alone, and 4. He didn't seem nearly surprised enough when he saw her.
That’s a fact !
Good point
Journalist are not as talented asyou think
I think the bartender woke Jim up so he could do what he's supposed to do.
he can't, because he was on wires, maybe that doesn't make sense but in other words he was limited because he had his route or something, just look at the part of the movie where Jim looks at him and say "oh he's a robot".
Plot twist: bartender got waken up too early, so he woke up Jim in order to have some company
Plot twist, the Robot is a lesbian
goddamnit, someone ruined the 666 likes
Did anyone else think her name was a Sleeping Beauty reference? I mean, she's beautiful, she's "sleeping", and her name is Aurora. Oh, and she gets mistreated by a man while sleeping. Hmm.
Ooooooooh
Mistreated? You have read/seen Sleeping Beauty right? Is CPR also mistreatment?
@@SlavaUkraini1114 You haven't read the original where she ends up pregnant and still asleep?
@@dmf81 Can't tell if troll, moron, or victim of fake news.
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Grimm%27s_Household_Tales,_Volume_1/Little_Snow-White
In the original the prince's servants trip over a tree stump causing the poisoned apple to dislodge itself from snow white's throat.
Oh the horror! Call the Misogyny Police!
@@SlavaUkraini1114 Actually, she was raped.
But that's not very child friendly, so it was cut out.
11:10 The plan wasn't to wake the passengers up a year before the arrival, but a few (I think it was 4) months. Which I think was not only for the enjoyment of the ship, but also for recovering purposes and to prepare the passengers for the new planet (for example instructions for the people who go there to work, like Jim).
@@someguybreaks well maybe the passengers still sleep/live on the ship even when they arrive on the new planet. i don't think some restaurants showers or random houses are already on the new planet lol
@@someguybreaks It is a money-making venture remember. Get them to spend a bunch of money in the 4 months and be in debt to the company but I agree why not drag it out a year
Never understood how the company would profit from that. It would take more than 240 years to get anything back from the planet, at the very least. And there's still the time needed to mine whatever would be of value. Plus the colony could just give the middle finger to the home planet since they are so far away since they are there with all the resources to start a new civilization. Unless Earth would be willing to slag the planet because of the rebellion, which they would be able to do with a relativist kill vehicle since they obviously have the ability to speed up to a fraction of the speed of light and steer towards a certain planet to hit it.
I was saying the same thing. This kind of stuff is why I've stopped watching CinemaSins, so self-absorbed. Anyway they are sort of right since the movie screws up it's explanation by insisting on having Homestead II in the epilogue sequence.
I just had to watch this flick again after so many years. I think the 4 month wait is for deceleration. We just have to imagine the ship has a way to decelerate gently from the “ludicrous “ speed it’s flying. We don’t want folks plastered to the front facing windows, do we?
This movie with its few logical flaws is still one of my favorite sci-fi films. Very unique sense of aloneness and the decision to basically end someone’s life by waking them up which is a duality in of itself, is just amazing.
That's a tragic twist, and now I am very sorry for Peter and Wendy.
I HATED the Fishburne Ex Machina. They need a character to open a door. So they let him wake up. Then they don't need him anymore. So they let him die. SERIOUSLY??
yeah I didn't like that either. They should've thought of something else instead of this.
+Ryan Crins Maybe have the ship's identification system shut down or all the doors start malfunctioning? That way, it shows off more ways that the ship is breaking down aside from "roombas are falling from the sky" in addition to letting the characters go where they need to, and also ties in to when JLaw mentions she was stuck in her room for two days. That could lead to some contrived-feeling moments when the door to a plot-important room won't open when it has every other time though.
Yoctopory I was so mad they used Fishburne for such a bullshit small role. He is such a good actor and they wasted him!
Yeah I was mad about that. There is absolutely NO REASON why e had to die. I'm only 12:45 into this video but I want to go ahead and also call BS on there only being one medical pod for 5,000 people.
You are silly. It sounds like you think they base the plot around Fishburnes character.
But to answer your sub-question. Yes..that is how black characters in white movies live. The world has been split bewteeen cultures and races since dawn, no surprise I hope?
Black Guy still died first....He DIDN'T even get shot
Ye you're right wtf hahahah😂😂😂😂
Bluskys maybe one of his 612 diseases was from a gunshot wound
lol
Bluskys yeah dude they wanted to keep it as accurate as possible. it seems that that's probably the only thing that the movie did right. Now if anyone on the planet Earth is reading this coming to you guys please keep my channel alive out of extermination thank you so much thank you
Kuronetwork lol yeah it's probably programmed in the computer system juice to keep things as accurate and real as possible. now if anyone on the planet Earth is reading these common could you please check out my channel for preservation please keep my channel alive thank you
There are a ton of alterations where this movie *could* have been a masterpiece. But sadly mainstream audiences can't handle dark and twisted psychological stories. They just want mushy romance.
My favorite part of this movie was where after she finds out he woke her up, she goes into his room while he was asleep and starts beating him up. Then stops herself right before killing him. They likely wanted it to seem like she couldn't kill him because she still "loved" him or something, but I want to believe she didn't because then she herself would then be alone.
same
Yup
You’re not special stfu
Seeing as mainstream audiences didn't like this film your point is kinda moot.
I thought it was a good movie. Even as a 33 year old male.
It's funny I rewatched this movie and discovered both could have had made it to the other world without dying of old age, 1:15:07 - "problems very simple. The clocks chips burnt out" on his hibernation pod, and if we go back towards scene.. 1:29:09 "there's replacement parts for everything", so if we take it that his hibernation pod can be repaired, and the medical centers make shift hibernation pod, couldn't both have made it?
Is nobody gonna talk about how he was STARING AT A STAR
well even today spacecraft have special glass that protects from space radiation, sun rays and dims the brightness, sooo....
But then you couldnt see the faint stars. Or maybe the glass automatically knows what brightness to adjust to based on what youre looking at. High tech for a spaceship that doesnt have spare pods
You mean starring?
what if its a screen ?
Her name is ridiculous, but it deserves an additional sin for what I assume is a ham-fisted Sleeping Beauty reference.
i think it's a reference to Aurora Borealis, but i chuckled at your comment because that could also be true.
Now I feel ashamed for naming my lazy cat Aurora.
next do everything wrong with the boss baby
definitely, I'd look forward to watching that
zest1513 hey!leave (princess)AAaurora alone!
"Unexplained white stains on the glass" 5:45
Paul Cosby GG
This needs to be the Top Comment ..
I don't get it
Paul Cosby At first I thought "hand prints" then I was like, wait what?
Paul Cosby o
Watching this movie in 2020 you realize that Chris Pratt essentially became Thor from Avengers Endgame.
So This is where star lord spent most of his life before he went to steal the orb
No wonder nobody fucking heard of him.
Yep
Niall Reid hahahahahahahah lol
noseless Frank Handerson I
noseless Frank Handerson 😂
9:32 "Attention, you may wish to proceed to a viewing area"
you missed a well disguised "you have to take a look at this" cliche
Kék Dragnal a
Great catch!
I am so happy that Cinema Sins busted out the approximate distance to particular stars just to call out bullshit on this movie.
I was also thinking that they came waaay too close to the star. Seems like they should have gotten a bit toasty, no?
You can't even look at the Sun from Earth on a clear day, yet they can see a larger star basically right next to them without going blind with a giant viewer....
True, the right way to have done it is to not have windows at all (structural weakness and all that) but instead have viewing screens that show what the outside currently looks like.
the stationary stars out the windows for a spinning ship got me rolling on the floor, just beautiful observation 🤣🤣🤣💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
are we not gonna talk about the fact that at the end there are chickens, birds, rabbits, plants, streams, AND a sun.... on a spaceship 😐😂
Where did they get the soil from?
What about water?
lol
They had plants in stasis (the roses) and most likely they would take the opportunity to bring fresh livestock to the colony planet. If you notice, in one scene in the cargo storage there is even a submarine hung up near the ceiling. Pretty good bet there is a veritable plethora of randomness in the cargo hold.
MrShadowpanther3 good point 😂
MrShadowpanther3 Doesn't that mean they ruined the future by freeing the cargo?
There are probably multiple ships on their way to the planet. They didn't ruin the future but merely inconvenienced it.
I think it was Nerdwriter1 who suggested that the movie would be much much better if it was rearranged to be from Jennifer Lawrence's perspective. The whole tone of the movie would change and our first instinct would be to not trust Chris Pratt's character instead of empathize with him, and when Jennifer learns that she was woken up early by Chris it would be more of a twist than an inevitability that she found out. They could definitely put the whole beginning when Chris Pratt wakes up in a later part of the movie to have you finally emphasize with the character after not trusting him and learning of the horrible thing he had done, showing a depth of character that isn't there when we are shown Chris Pratt's perspective of it first.
I watched that video, too. I would be very interested in watching a rewrite of the movie with that storyline.
Sean Parmer empathize =/= emphasize
sad they didn't do this, would have made such a great plot twist
I don't think think so. The script it's not that good and neither are the actors, so that couldn't have been pulled off.
I don't see how "not trust Christ Pratt's character" is possible, like he's either goofy or charming. The movie genre would still be a mess, going from sci fi, to romance to sci fi and on again, the third act would still flop.
And i think if they would've go that way they would have got into more problems than they already have with feminist and crap, and Chris Pratt backstory on the third act won't have change that.
Still Chris Pratt waking Jennifer Lawrence still should been the twist, sice that's what most of the marketing of the movie was based on
I was thinking this too omg
What if Jim woke up Aurora but she was gay? *"She's gay Jim"*
I don't think he opened her pod because of sex though. He just needed some kind of companionship.
pyrotechNick --> that was my first thought!!!
Marianne Hord he opened it because of sex.
Marianne Hord Why didn't he wake up a dude then?
He needed companionship, but he also fell in love with Aurora. Also he's a guy, so he wanted sex, but that wasn't the primary motivation.
In a deleted scene, Arthur says he can make 1,436 different cocktails. If Jim tried only 1 per day, that's roughly 3.93 or 4 years trying not to wake someone else up. Even taking into account some nights where he tried 2 drinks and maybe a night where he didn't go there, that's still 3-4 years. The rest of the movie aside from deleted scenes says he was alone for 1 year (NOT 4), but what if it had been 4 years he held on?
And, as has been said, if the movie started with Aurora, I think the reveal of him waking her up and feeling betrayed, BUT then somehow later coming across security footage or a database of logs or his journals realizing the depths of his loneliness of 4 years just walking halls, eating alone, going by the sleeping pods, seeing him agonize over whether or not to do wake her, etc... might have built up some sympathy.
Man, the REALLY sad thing is that this would have been so brilliant as a stealth thriller where we don't know Pratt opened her pod and, you know, presumably goes all stabby when she rejects him. Like, I almost wonder if that's how this script started out, but once J-Law and C-Pratt got attached, some genius decided it HAD to be rewritten into a romcom no matter how much sense it didn't make.
Jason Blalock, I was wishing it would be that way too.
Jason Blalock I KNOW RIGHT. honestly I hate when Hollywood has a good idea and fucks it like this
Yes it could have been a stalker film but nope it had be romantic.
I remember reading about this, the original script had the girl come in at the end and the section with him getting depressed and beardy lasted much longer. I think it was also supposed to be creepier as well.
It's close to being a good film, and then you feel like the there was some company meddling involved. You could either do it 1) Start from where Aurora wakes up, follow the film from their normally, show her existential dread, and her getting stockholmed by the Pratt man. We get the reveal he woke her up, then we flash back. We see the first bit of the film and follow Jims story, where he slowly goes insane for a year. I want to push the insane a bit further than we see in the film.
Or, 2) The film continues normally, we see all the normal shit that happens, and instead of blanketing over Aurora wanting to be with Jim, we discuss it further, look deeper into the morality of the whole thing.
Or 3) The Films the same, we cut the middle relationship bit down by like 30%. We find out somethings wrong with the ship after waking Aurora (we don't need the Fishburne in any of these by the way), we do the reveal bit again, they argue, the bad stuff happens, and then we get Jim fixing the problem. But instead of the feels good ending, Jim dies. The back section of the film is watching Aurora, who in this would never have gotten back with Jim and apologised, deal with being the only one awake. The film ends with her waking up another passenger.
I don't even watch movies anymore, I just watch cinema sins
exp10der same
Sad but true
truuuuuueeeeeeee
same here!
I do that for movies I definitely won't watch, like the dreaded emoji movie.
Can we have a sin for the fact that on a ship with top fucking futuristic medical stuff that can replace stem cells and basically do god damn anything, Jim and aurora weren't able to live to 110-120 years old????
exactly. 1:43:21 into the movie, notice that a function called "Telomere Reset" exist?
It's basically mean reset aging, restore DNA's regenerative capability, and young again...
Well they would have to know about the function to actually use it. Then again after 80 or so years on the ship they should proably have run into it after several cases of probable health issues.
I thought I was good at catching mistakes In a movie ... bro you got me rolling 😂😂😂😂
Why is the engine running at all during the flight? You only need it for accelerating and braking not for travelling in space
Markus -> you're right! no friction, the ship would just keep going unless they needed to power through an asteroid field or change direction.
Markus the constant spinning of the deck is also friction and would eventually throw it off without it having the engines on.
The fastest way to travel in space is to accelerate until the halfway point then turns the ship around and "decelerate" for the second half. For our current tech, this is expensive and uses too much fuel, for Sci-fi its plausible. The real sin is that the ship is not approaching the new planet engine first
Haven't seen the movie to have a clue if there's a way it could've been meant that way, but ... there are engines that also serve as power generators and certain engines can have a setting that doesn#t neccesarily generate any thrust.
I'm guessing it's for stupid people who don't understand momentum in zero-G, but it MIGHT have an acceptable explanation attached. It might even just be a visualization for more clarity. That makes things less cleaar for people who know their science shit.
Which reminds me ... Nope, the spinning motions doesn't create any 'friction' that would influece the ships momentum, if it was in motion after the ships no doubt existing maneuver thrusters were used to neutralize any unwanted momentum.
Changing course like in a swingby would be very interesting, though. Completely unneccessary if you somehow managed to reach half the speed of light, though. So yeah, the science in the movie doesn't add up.
+drac5290 "The real sin is that the ship is not approaching the new planet engine first"
mmhmm. I damn near threw a bottle at my tv when I saw that >:(
You sinned the fact that nobody expected the hibernation pods to malfunction. This is actually one of the most realistic aspects of this entire film. Like, so many disasters in the past happened or turned out worse than they could have been, just because everyone expected that these could never happen. Take the "unsinkable" titanic for example.. or the Kaprun disaster in Austria, where a fire occured in a train tunnel in a ski area - the doors couldn't be open, there weren't any window hammers and not even portable fire extinquishers, simply because nobody even expected a fire to ever break out. Not expecting a catastrophe to happen, is literally how catastrophes happen.
Maybe, but the Titanic and similar catastrophes (including some during space programs) taught people that lesson. You always, _always_ expect the worst, then devise plans to try and counter that.
Furthermore, computers are well-known to glitch; companies and armies work hard to limit that, but it's impossible to eliminate. No computer scientist, technician or engineer, worth half their degree, would flat-out ignore the risk and have no backup.
Of course, if things had been that way here, we would've had maintenance and repair robots instead of a bartender. And if they'd failed, the buildup of fuckups would've triggered technicians to be taken out of sleep... so we would've had no movie.
Realistically, no engineer back at that time believed the The Titanic to be LITERALLY unsinkable. They just didn't regard it as very likely - for the excellent reason that ship technology had improved so much by the early 20th century that the vast, vast majority of ships made the transatlantic journey without a sinking (a far cry from Columbus's time). Also, The Titanic actually DID make provisions for the possibility of the ship sinking - they did in fact have lifeboats after all. It's just that those provisions were inadequate. That's a lot less overconfident than believing your pods will NEVER fail.
Daniel Mladen Fun fact about the Titanic: the ship actually carried enough lifeboats that the law required. You probably know that many of the lifeboats left the Titanic less than half full because the passengers refused to believe that the ship could sink, but in truth even if all the boats had been filled to maximum capacity there still wouldn’t be a chance for everyone to escape.
This has to do with people’s understanding of the lifeboats’ purpose. Even before the Titanic, there had been another major accident on the Atlantic involving an ocean liner and the ship went down within a few hours (I can’t remember the name of the ship :p) Everyone on board survived because the passengers were transferred in waves to a nearby rescue ship via the lifeboats. So the common understanding of the day was that lifeboats were meant to transfer passengers to rescue ships before the ship went down, not to hold passengers and crew AFTER the ship sank. So the number of lifeboats a ship was required to carry was calculated based on this really abstract formula determined by the Shipping Authority or something of the time, not based on the number of passengers a ship carried. So yeah, the Titanic complied with every safety requirement in tbe books and they definitely carried enough lifeboats by law, but that couldn’t have stopped the devastating amount of life that night :(
(The subject of the Titanic is a very interesting one to research as it seemed completely inevitable from the point of view of 20th century society, yet with the benefit of hindsight there are so many factors that if altered even slightly could have at least reduced the number of lives lost. It wasn’t just that no one expected a disaster to happen-I mean, sure, that could account for the reactions of the ship’s passengers that night, but there are so many other underlying factors so intertwined, it becomes impossible to pinpoint the disaster to any one particular reason. I find the Titanic quite a fascinating study :))
A HUGE part of designing anything is asking questions. The number of instances in this movie that there should have been fail-safes is insane. From the ship not navigating around an asteroid belt, to the fact the ship could not repair itself, it was a horrible design, and it's a miracle none of the other thousands of voyages didn't also fail. As a designer you have to ask questions that while you hope and never expect to happen, and then create a solution for that problem. Obviously it is impossible to account for every possibility, malfunction, and failure, but something like avoiding an asteroid belt (seriously, what was that? You mean to tell me they didn't know that was there and set the initial flight plan around it?), or allowing a passenger or crew member to rehibernate by themselves is simply ignorant, these are obvious and should have been some of the first problems addressed in the design process. So to your point, you are correct in a way, but not in this instance.
At the time nobody from the ship or associated white star said that the ship was unsinkable
Can we get a -1 sin for Arthur?
-1 sin
-100 sins for my baby michael sheen
I would wake up random people every night. Hoping one could fix it. And pretend it’s the ship doing it. lol
Top 1 on trending!! You rock Cinemasins!!
I mean, he did pay TH-cam for that #1.
G HL maybe he did, but at least they are number 1 at something XD
No one pays TH-cam for that, don't be stupid.
Cinema Sins really??!! Celebrating the hard work and dedication of a channel that worked for ages, and you try to steal our money with a phishing site? Please stop
The computer told Jim when he woke up that he would be spending the last 4 months on the ship before reaching the new planet. That's why the ship has all the amenities.
Throat Auger and yet everyone woke up as homestead was in clear view and considering it looks about twice the distance from our moon there shouldn't even be that much amenities
That should have been one of the last sins in this video.
It was the 3rd to last sin.
The ship was traveling at half the speed of light at the point at which Laurence Fishburne awoke -That doesn't mean that's how fast it travels. A more plausible dynamic would be that the ship spends something like half it's voyage accelerating and half it's voyage decelerating. It might reach 75% of C by the time it starts slowing down.
Also - the crew and passengers would be awake and going through colonial orientation for 4 months prior to debarking, but that does not mean they would have to be awakened when the ship is "4 months worth of distance" from it's destination. A more plausible dynamic would be that the ship awakens the passengers and crew upon arrival and enters a stable orbit around the planet for 4 months, during which time colonial supplies are systematically debarked to the new planet, so that when they do start ferrying passengers down to the planet there are already habitats, medical facilities, and rudimentary agri-facilities capable of sustaining the sudden arrival of 5200 humans.
A more egregious sin than any of these would be how are (presumably) 2500 breeding pairs sufficient to sustain stable planetary colonization and isolated evolution, without controls in place to coordinate mating best-practices? Each passenger would have to be carefully screened for genetic diversity relative to all other passengers, as well as fertility concerns, and and then you'd just have to hope that not too much cousin-love starts taking place. Seems like you'd need to keep refreshing the population with more and more colonists every few hundred years I guess. Otherwise you'll end up after a few generations with and increasingly dull witted and unhealthy population of colonists.
+No Scope The thing is, if the ship traveled Brachistachrone-style, then why is it still accelerating _towards_ Homestead II when it's so close to the planet.
one of the disorders of the captain guy was Necrotic Plague, and when I searched it, a Magic The Gathering card showed up.
What the actual hell
World of Warcraft shit showed up for me
Oh that's hilarious
found that, too. But the Captain also had Syphilitic aortitis which is the tertiary stage of syphilis. That dude is really fucked up
It says, i believe more than once, that the passengers are woken up four months prior to arrival on homestead two
Fun fact: in the original story that this movie is based upon, the male character sacrifices himself to save the ship and the girl. Then the girl is all alone and faced with the same problem he was of being stranded and alone. She ends up doing the same thing he did and opening another pod to have human company. This movie is not a horror film. And if they stuck with the original story it would have been better.
All the feminists are ignoring the fact a woman would open a pod within 1 month of loneliness. Men can handle isolation far more than women.
alex ojideagu I’ve known plenty of men who couldn’t stand to be alone even just for a few minutes. The extent of time to which a person is able to cope with loneliness would be different for every individual. Personally I think I could handle it for quite a while.
Supernaturally American putting a woman in the same difficult circumstances isn’t anti feminism. It would more so be a comment on human nature than anything to do with men versus women or feminism, that’s quite a weird leap to make.
alex ojideagu Also because you were sexist I’m gonna have to turn on my sexist helmet and point out that I think you’re wrong. Since women are generally better people than men (more nurturing, empathetic, giving, etc.) I think a woman would internalize this problem much more severely than a man.
@@ComeToMyCupcakeParty Feminist spotted.
“White stains on the glass” lol I’m dead 💀💀😂
Would it just crumble away, and leave faint powder like thin plastic.
@ wow you know alot about this topic....
He’s dead Jim ⚰️
The reason why he talks to himself is due to loneliness. He NEEDS to hear a voice, so he makes due with his own.
Shit, I talk to myself as well, what's the big fucking deal...? xD
@@ragnarlothbrook2650 Most people talk to themselves actually, it's just a natural thing to do when alone, and it's completely healthy
I agree there's only about 10 sins
Explains him touching himself
I talk to myself even when there's people in the damn room.
I mainly like how after their falling out when she discovers the truth, they apparently have a custody deal with the bartender.
*The united airlines joke* 😂
Леонтий Золотарев *What ?*
+10 sins for Jim having the worst fake beard I've ever seen in a movie.
Tom tonka the award of worst beard goes to Obi wan in Episode II
THAT WAS FAKE??!!!!! O_O
real in some scenes, fake in other scenes. The fake one looks horrendous.
Jim is a furry: *CONFIRMED*
Worst fake beard is in The Greatest Showman tbh
Watching this made me realize something. Something I'm incredibly surprised you didn't point out! The rotation is for gravity, but when the ship malfunctions the gravity turns on and off like its a switch, there's no way the rotation would stop, and if it stopped and started that quickly, there would be far greater consequences.
Rotational movement artificial gravity is never gonna work like it was shown in a movie anyway. The air inside the spacecraft would be pushed towards the outer radius of the ship, traveling between those 3 long sections with big radius would be impossible without traveling towards the center of the ship, which can only be done with elevators and feeling less gravity as you get towards the axis on "top floors" (normal acceleration = ω² *radius = gravity force applied to object standing at this radius away from spinning axis) which wasn't shown in the film.
So it's magic :) Don't even think about the artificial gravity being as easy as spinning a damn ship around. Also how could those "floors" withstand the artificial weights of all the stuff onboard, especially where 1000 people should walk around feeling normal gravity? They must be walking on that same kind of energy field that ship is using at asteroid dangers then. This comfort can never be reached in space traveling, but well, that still looks good in a movie! :D
And even if the artificial gravity is caused by some other special magical means, they would still feel the gravity from the ship spinning around, so yeah, this ruins the movie even more :D
So in the movie Jim says there’s no way to go back into hyper sleep. So how does the crew go back into hyper sleep for the return trip? It also makes no sense that the crew isn’t awakened in shifts to monitor things or at least a more sophisticated robot than the bar tender roaming around.
Well, they probably do the preparations on Homestead II they did on Earth before the ship launched
I feel like this movie assumes the audiences is stupid and is just hopping everyone is just "Hey it's Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence".
It was designed that way. There's a video out there from Nerdwriter that details on why the movie would have been so much better if it was done from J-Law's POV and not from Chris Pratt's. It would have been a sci-fi movie on par with "The Shining". Honestly, that would have been a significantly better movie than the predictable mess we got.
Camhin1 I said that when I saw the trailer but I knew I wasn't gonna see the movie it looked boring
That's exacly why they made big bucks
Memeo Supremeo yeah a lot of people get bored by scifi
Camhin1 I
I wonder what would happen if you switch the movie with a big edit.
Start the movie with Aurora waking up, and finish to the bit where "yes I woke you up". Then jump cut to the start of the movie, where Jim woke up at the start and finish when she wakes up. Then do the 3rd act.
I like the idea, but the part without Aurora seems a bit too long to me for a flashback. You'd be waiting for it to be over and get back to the real story.
John Grayson Interesting idea. The only problem is, you lose most of the point of the movie. The point was "Faced with the choice of being alone for the rest of your life, or waking up someone to join you, what do you do?" and not "Was it moral/understandable/okay what Jim did?"
And the answer to the second question is obvious. No, it's not moral or okay, but it is understandable. The answer to the first question is a much more personal answer that depends more on individuals and human nature, and is therefore something that can actually be addressed through scifi, but is entirely ignored if you start by waking up JLaw.
If you want "Horror movie in SPACE!" go watch Aliens, guys. Stop trying to ruin my scifi (even badly written scifi).
John Grayson
Yes, this same edit has been advocated in many articles. I think the reveal would have made a better movie.
John Grayson Why didn't You direct the movie? ..great synopsis!
Nah then it would be sexist, if Aurora woke up first
The fact that it is knocked in this situation that he speaks to himself out loud so frequently just shows how little is understood about being alone. I spend 23 hours a day alone. I talk to myself ALL THE TIME because it's the only way there could be a conversation it's just so..... obvious, I guess.... for people who talk to people... to not know what it's like to have no one to talk to. ever.
It also relates, seriously, to why I comment on videos, cus I have no one else to talk to
Why you alone for so long everyday...
I wondered that too
make friends online or something......
23 hours? you in solitary confinement
Considering that they developed a way to ship people across galaxys, its almost impossible for them not to develop some safety measure to put crew asleep if they woke up, and that they would not have a team of crew members alternating hyper-sleep in case something happened
We have companies out there they catch ransomware and have no backups and you think this makes no sense. LOL
The narrator still didn't talk about the heat of the star. I mean if they are passing or getting slingshot by the star, will they not be roasted nuggets?
Plus where did all the birds come from at the end of the movie, out of tree seeds?
Julius Caesar there should be a hyper cooler 9000
They used bird seeds, duh. /s
it was a red giant, red giants are a lot cooler than normal stars. im more concerend about the plants and animals they woke up. also, where did they get all that earth to plant the plants from? those animals and plants are there to colonize the new planet and to feed them in the future. also, the food on the ship is meant to last for one month for 5000 people. so 2 people eating every day would eat half the food available. and shouldnt the power outs have woken more people?
dude the more I look into it the more problems the movie has like the medical bed and aurora's pod couldn't they sleep in their pods also why didn't he try to wake up the crew? Or others, and what about the captains pod did they even try that also the diseases and ending like come one 612 he would have been dead as soon as he woke up a lot of these problems are cliche mistakes that further complicate the story because the writers wanted the story to have romance which is why I hate romantic subplots. At one point in the movie she was going to kill him
NO YOU IDIOTS BIRDS GO ON TREE!!! WHERE DO YOU THINK BABY BIRDS COME FROM!?!?
Lol, those 612 disorders are ridiculous! Not only do they repeat themselves, some conditions mentioned in different words essentially mean the same thing and they even have syphilitic aortitis mentioned twice! SYPHILITIC AORTITIS!! How in the heck did that guy's pod give him tertiary SYPHILIS???!!!
Just so everyone knows, this is a stage 4 sexually transmitted infection that takes 3 years to fully develop...
I just googeled what exactly that is. And it seems like it is something that could be even happen through something else. i.e. a "to us magical" hibernation pod.
So he never had syphilis. But the pod makes something what has the same "picture" as a long term effect.
It's possible he had Syphlis before the trip xD
The bigger question is: How the fuck has he gotten the Necrotic plaque? What a movie that would have been to see fishburn fight the lichking for the last popcicle in the freezer xD.
OMG I ALSO THOUGHT THE SAME LIKE YOU !!! LOLL
I'm surprised he didn't point out that they look directly at the sun for about a solid minute with no consequences. We can't look at the sun here on Earth. But if you're in space and attractive, go for it.
Andrew Morales the windows were probably hella tinted
Also, wouldn't the intense radiation completely disintegrate the ship
Luke Bas, It stands to reason that if you have a ship capable of interstellar travel then it has the ability to deal with large amounts of radiation as the passengers would all die of cancer if there wasn't some sort of shielding present.
Special tint my ass..they didn't even have replacement pods!!!
Andrew Morales one pod for 5000 colonists and 258 crew members. Yep, that's budget cut.
Regarding sin 70:
Travelling near the speed of light lets your internal clock go slower. So they probably counted the 30 years on the ship.
You can even measure this on planes. If you put a clock on a plane and let them fly, you will see the clock going a little bit slower.
“Unexplained white stains” 💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m dead omg
Can't they just wake up everyone and start a civilization inside the ship?
They probably would've run out of food pretty soon. If anything they should've woken up the crew, not the passengers. Maybe a hibernation pod engineer who could've fixed their pods.
Good point
Mätzle the male character was an engineer
He was just a mechanic. Not even for the ship.
Bossay6 that's what I thought
The problem with this movie was some guy who thought: "What if we make a movie about a guy and a girl who lives alone in a luxury spaceship." And pretty much ended the planning of the story at that point.
There is another video floating about youtube which points out how badly edited this story is, as well as being a shit story. It would be much better to start the movie with J law waking up and have the audience not know that Jim woke her up until later in the movie.
I’m convinced he didn’t even watch the movie 😭 They clearly state they wake up 4 months early so they can prepare for when they land. Like jesus man😂😂😂😂
Why was there only 2 space suits for over 5000 people on the ship
Because when you go to the theme park, they don't have a giant wheel with millions of seats. Everybody has to wait for their chance. That spacesuit thingy was like a theme park ride to experience zero gravity. Not for running away from the ship or anything.
Come to think of it, what would be the use of mutiny in space? Gonna die there eventually, just waaaaaaay faster than you would at sea.
Anonymous Horse Titanic-logic.
that is simple my friend. if you remember the plot you will remember that they are charging for everything. therefore you can understand that they will charge very heavily for space walking as well. if sending a 1-minute video to earth cost 6k just imagine how much they would be charging for spacewalk time LOLZ. it would not be crowded as only the super rich would be willing to pay for such luxury.
Jim didn't care since he was not going to pay the bill anyway. lol
Anonymous Horse there wasn't
here is why, because this movie is stupid and it was written by stupid people
My own personal sin: There wasn’t enough Michael Sheen
I adore Michael Sheen.
That being said -- I wish he weren't in the Twilight. I would, however, remove ALL the sins if he did that INSANE giggle here as well.
@@Omnicient. You're entitled to your opinion. I'd watch a few more productions before coming to that conclusion.
@@Omnicient. Well, again, you're entitled to your own opinion.
@@Omnicient. True. And I respect yours.
10:09 Not to mention that being that close to a star would incinerate their retinas instantly, unless the ship has some kick ass tinted windows.
dmaster225 it does and sheilds
Sin number 117: at the ending scene there are birds flying around
You mentioned that if the movie was filmed from Jennifer Lawrence's perspective, it'd be a horror. You're right, and had the movie started with her waking up, and only given us insight into Jim's character and perspective AFTER she discovers what he did, the movie would have been a thousand times better. The movie in its final state treated the audience members as idiots by delivering boring exposition, and telling us what to feel through Jim's eyes, however had we not known Jim's intentions or justification for what he does until 2/3 through the movie, it would've created tension and unpredictability through us sympathizing with Lawrence's character, and eventually forced us to choose whether or not Jim was justified in his decision due to not seeing his side of the story until later on. Very poor screenwriting can be fixed with just a few edits.
Edit: Because nobody is reading my replies, I wanted to clarify that this idea was first presented to me by Nerdwriter after he got the idea from another TH-camr whose name I've forgotten. Check out the Nerdwriter for a better explanation than this comment, and please stop calling me a thief - this is how I felt when I saw the movie on opening night, the Nerdwriter simply explained it in a way that let me write this comment in the first place.
Totherphoenix They kinda addressed Jims actions by him looking for a way for her to go back to sleep and dieing alone on the ship.
Which I thought was predictable and did nothing for the story but further justify/forgave Jim's actions.
Totherphoenix Predictable, yup. Justify, I don't think so. Give her the capacity to forgive yes. Nothing for the story, I disagree. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
It's not the story that the writer wanted to tell, though. It's obvious that this is a love story, not psychological horror. As a writer, you make this kind of decision BEFORE the script is finished.
The real sin is that the writer made a bad decision by letting his main character do an inexcusable thing and not addressing it as much as it deserves. Which might have been a tall order for a movie, so he should have found another way to get the two lone people together like it was needed.
And yes, another malfunctioning pod would have been such a way. Not a great way, because it's 'just the coincidence that was needed', but if you have the choice between a weak excuse and a disgustingly terrible one, better pick weak. It#s the smaller of the two evils.
Totherphoenix
That kind of reminds me of 10 Cloverfield Lane. Almost exactly, too. If you haven't seen it, it's really really good and deals with isolation and that type of tension.
Arthur was the best part of this film.
tru
His acting was spot-on, and he looks so suave.
100% agreeeeeee I watched the film just because Michael Sheen
Arthur was the best character and you can't change my mind
This really WOULD be a horror movie if you switch Fishburne and Pratt as soon as Aurora found out that she was purposefully woken up. She could be 'understanding' because Jim is hot and around her age, but if he was an older less attractive man who preferred the company of a beautiful young woman? Then it would be a totally different story.
Wouldn't she rather think, that she is "The One" after waking up from a pod and meeting Morpheus.
Yeah, I can totally see Hollywood throwing big money into a project about an oldass black pervert essentially holding a young blonde girl against her will.
*cough* BLACK SNAKE MOAN *cough*
yarpen26, google "Elizabeth Smart".
TheTrueLeafless also, being much older than her, he would have died way earlier than her, condamning the rest of her life to solitude ..
thinking after 30 years of hibernation he’d know exactly where he is, is not a sin. Like who’s to say he wasn’t put to hibernation in a completely different settings. This movie gets slander so undeservingly