@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 Lies, it makes the colonisers poorer. With BRICS development bank there, such a coalition would enrich the majority of people who were previously disadvantaged by colonization and apartheid. People benefitted a lot from the tenure of President Zuma. People did not have to send high remittances to family either because he was supporting the township and rural economy when he revived and funded the cooperatives from 2015
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 Are you implying that the real world is your couch there in England where you voted this year?😂🤣 I live here in SA. I see the milling plant President Zuma built in my area every time I go back home, and I see the more than 20 tractors he gave the cooperatives in the area. I see the plant's dysfunctionality since RamaSofa took office and now under the DA/ANC coalition, the plant is almost closed as the cooperatives no longer get support. Its apartheid beneficiaries that are threatened by that coalition, not us who were previously disadvantaged
The truth is... illegal mining is far more dangerous than just the seen consequences, the towns themselves become unstable, not just on a societal level (which is just a consequence of gangs called zama zamas) but on. An infrastructural level, where sink-holes appear everywhere as the ground underneath is mined without any strategic expertise !, the days of South Africa as a mining power are over, and we need to find new solution for k job creation, we need to re-industrialise, the idea that we can legalise artisanal mining is insanity, the industry is to fragment and infiltrated by gangs and foreigners to accurately regulate, we just need to crack down and find better solutions otherwise Stilfontein collapses, and we bury an entire town and come back to a blame game
Good afternoon mr Thabo I like to comment on this topic of illigal mining, amongst all the leaders who are debating of illigal mining of stilfontein as if police are not doing what it is right, what about 8 woman who was been raped by the same illigal mining ? Those illigal mining they were right to do so according those leaders because they have to put bread on the table for their families.
Can Sebei tell us on how the illegal miners were transporting the minerals they were digging if there's no a mastermind who sit or sitting somewhere in or out of the country? How much do they get paid because these minerals move from point A to B
People want to talk about history but don't want to talk about legislature. Government and mining industry will want to speak Terms of Refference first before joining the chat. Opinions remain opinions until they are backed by laws and policy.
Can you speak of law without it's history?how did this system we using end up here?a crime. What you said is not even logic it's just logic to Roman Deutsch law. Okay if you want it that way let's start here,Law states buying stolen goods is Illegal right?Resources,land...was it given to Colonisers?same ones who gave us law?okay let's use it then. Does it make it right to come to a place,take people's stuff without their permission and set up laws?so who would we arrest first??
We need people who speak it like it is about colonization the caise of our suffering and all crimes,they sit behind the scenes and orchestrate everything..yet can't deal with black people's poverty? This issue needs to be highlighted, plus more people now are seeing the truth,That We are oppressed,not poor.And they use Roman Deutsch laws against us.. that's why we need our own system that's African not the same system that oppressed us
The same people who abandon these mines buy the material from the illegal miners, don't say no one told u
This gentleman is stating facts only, this is the kind of information the mainstream media avoids😂😂
The only fact he missed is that voting ANC MK EFF makes you poorer.
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 Lies, it makes the colonisers poorer. With BRICS development bank there, such a coalition would enrich the majority of people who were previously disadvantaged by colonization and apartheid.
People benefitted a lot from the tenure of President Zuma. People did not have to send high remittances to family either because he was supporting the township and rural economy when he revived and funded the cooperatives from 2015
@@biko8229 at least we know you don't get your information from the real world
@@biko8229 😂😂😂 BRICS development bank loans?
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 Are you implying that the real world is your couch there in England where you voted this year?😂🤣 I live here in SA.
I see the milling plant President Zuma built in my area every time I go back home, and I see the more than 20 tractors he gave the cooperatives in the area. I see the plant's dysfunctionality since RamaSofa took office and now under the DA/ANC coalition, the plant is almost closed as the cooperatives no longer get support.
Its apartheid beneficiaries that are threatened by that coalition, not us who were previously disadvantaged
The truth is... illegal mining is far more dangerous than just the seen consequences, the towns themselves become unstable, not just on a societal level (which is just a consequence of gangs called zama zamas) but on. An infrastructural level, where sink-holes appear everywhere as the ground underneath is mined without any strategic expertise !, the days of South Africa as a mining power are over, and we need to find new solution for k job creation, we need to re-industrialise, the idea that we can legalise artisanal mining is insanity, the industry is to fragment and infiltrated by gangs and foreigners to accurately regulate, we just need to crack down and find better solutions otherwise Stilfontein collapses, and we bury an entire town and come back to a blame game
Good afternoon mr Thabo I like to comment on this topic of illigal mining, amongst all the leaders who are debating of illigal mining of stilfontein as if police are not doing what it is right, what about 8 woman who was been raped by the same illigal mining ? Those illigal mining they were right to do so according those leaders because they have to put bread on the table for their families.
That hole is extremely scary from a safety perspective.
Can Sebei tell us on how the illegal miners were transporting the minerals they were digging if there's no a mastermind who sit or sitting somewhere in or out of the country? How much do they get paid because these minerals move from point A to B
People want to talk about history but don't want to talk about legislature. Government and mining industry will want to speak Terms of Refference first before joining the chat.
Opinions remain opinions until they are backed by laws and policy.
Can you speak of law without it's history?how did this system we using end up here?a crime.
What you said is not even logic it's just logic to Roman Deutsch law.
Okay if you want it that way let's start here,Law states buying stolen goods is Illegal right?Resources,land...was it given to Colonisers?same ones who gave us law?okay let's use it then.
Does it make it right to come to a place,take people's stuff without their permission and set up laws?so who would we arrest first??
Yeah my man. That's mining around the world and it's called business. Bitter pill to swallow I know...
These miners are foreigners?????????? ILLEGAL miners????????
even in the past most miners were foregners,white people used foreigners to mine,that calture still continues till today
i didnt know being a billionaire was illegal or morally wrong
Government must try fix pit toilets first, before venturing into mining, maybe by 2100? 🤔😬
How do you legalize something that is illegal?
We need people who speak it like it is about colonization the caise of our suffering and all crimes,they sit behind the scenes and orchestrate everything..yet can't deal with black people's poverty?
This issue needs to be highlighted, plus more people now are seeing the truth,That We are oppressed,not poor.And they use Roman Deutsch laws against us.. that's why we need our own system that's African not the same system that oppressed us
Has Sebei ever worked in the mines or he's a politician? Is it possible to end capitalism and eradicate poverty for a better life
Even if gaverment do that they mast pay tex and safty standerds of die gavermend DMR are they willing to do that
Newsroom Africa you are sellout