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If sora is the MoM then the time travel and dimension traveling shit they introduce will cripple the story. Right now there is so much potential that the story is fucking goated. Ventus was born pure of heart, that may be why darkness is so tied to him (light allows the shadow to be cast) so what if sora is just like ventus (maybe thats why soras heart was able to heal him) both are pure humans of light, which gives darkness a foothold from the shadow their light allows to be cast. Loved the analysis!
I always been saying that the kingdom hearts we were playing as the darkness not the light. Because of this line: seven lights thirteen darknesses. Of the organization 13 there is only 7 official members of the real organization 13. And how many do we have? 1 sora. 2 Kairi. 3 Riku. 4 Ven. 5 Terra. 6 Aqua. 7 Roxas. 8 Xion. 9 Lee. 10 Mickey. 11 Donald. 12 goofy. 13 Ephimiser. What was the last number? 13. And 13 is 6 more then 7. So why haven’t fans realize that the main characters are the villains along?
@@eddog6666 not really aren’t guardians of light keyblade wielders? Donald and goofy aren’t keyblade wielders and ephemer didn’t clash with org so he isn’t a guardian. The x blade is in 20 fragments so if 26 people fought obviously some of they wouldn’t be guardians of lighy
The player character protagonist to save fallen sora will be the 'definitely not noctis', after it is important to remember BOTH of those characters are important to Nomura. The more Nomura is able to transfer his responsibilities in the FF7R series unto others, the sooner the KH story will continue. Unless....oh dear SE decides they want to see a Yoko Taro KH..... though it will be disneyless, cause there is no way the mouse would knowingly let Taro touch their characters.
I mean if Riku got evilized a second time at THIS point it would also be fucked. The only reason why Riku wasn't full cataclysm apocalypse mode in KH1 is because he's just powered with Maleficent's darkness who didn't have any real specific darkness aside from darkness in general. At THIS point, Riku would not only have his own darkness but also probably Hurt if some memory related event makes him willingly become evil again. While we haven't seen 100% absolute Hurt, what we've likely seen of Hurt produces some concerning results (Namely Sora's reaction to being challenged on his "memories" of Namine). And if that is what actually happens when harboring it, Riku could produce some absolute CARNAGE.
I like to think of it as "The light turning to the Dark." If light turns dark, then what hope is there. The same way Baldr in Dark Road was consumed by sadness, anger, and then vengeance, Sora nearly fell into the same cycle in KH3. Without someone there to remind him of hope and the belief in himself, the light that guides the world, the child of destiny falling to darkness would mean cataclysm Too deep, but a cool philosophical approach to Sora being the great evil. Also, I can see the Ux parallel of Sora (Player character) fighting his against his two best friends in the end (Donald and Goofy at first, but ultimately Riku and Kairi stopping him 😢)
That would be dope! If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
@@timh.7169-Or a Future him from a bad alternate timeline. Vanitas is latin for Vanity or Emptiness(Or both) and as the Master of Master renamed his apprentices after six of the seven deadly sins, only one was left unaccounted for: Pride/Vanity.
“You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” Aka: “You either die a Sora or live long enough to see yourself become a Xehanort.”
at first i was like "there's no way theyd ever make sora a villain" but the more i thought abt it. the more it sunk in. the more i realized nomura is crazy enough to do it
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
@@dangosandlemons well the ones Disney needs I remind you that Disney Characters get hurt constantly in KH Goofy nearly dies mickey gets chocked out Davy Jones gets punched hard in the head sora threatens Mike Wazowsky with a Keyblade you can beat up Peter Pan, Terra Curses Sleeping Beauty, Baymax gets Possessed, Buzz gets possessed Donald nearly dies in the keyblade graveyard on and so on
Yeah and this time Kairi has to save him via teeth gritting pain of fighting. No princess ex machina for you Kairi. I want Sora to be a KHUx style of raid boss where he has 40 health bars and 13 phases
@@galaxystarstudios7160 Yeah but I want it to be like Kefka’s final boss battle where your team switches in once they get KO’d. A team of 3 every time. Mickey, Donald and Goofy Kairi, Riku and Namine Way finder Trio SeaSalt Trio OG Princesses New Wave Princesses And then Winnie the Pooh carrying the Hunny Launcher.
I love it when the happy go lucky protagonist of a series like this is recognized as the horrifyingly powerful demigod they actually are. There's something oddly satisfying about having a character in universe acknowledge how unbearably lucky they are the protagonist is on there side and isn't a ruthless monster like the bad guys are, because if they ever switched sides they would make all the villains they've fought previously look like push overs
Kirby is the epitome of this lol. He's even called a demon by his enemies. I know that's kinda unrelated to Sora but it's the first protag that came to my mind when you said that lmao.
If Sora becomes a villain, it may be out of desperation to finally get the happy ending without a drawback. Everytime he saves the day, someone or something gets lost. Kairi, Riku, his memories, himself. He may think he finds a way for everyone to be happy but it's going to hurt them in the short term.
I could see a very dark twist being that Sora's friends never find a way to rescue him, and he comes back of his own accord once he has the strength. He was always there for his friends, but when he needed them, where were they.
Yesssss. And that fact that they may have been pushed to handle the newest threat against them (MoM/Foretellers/Darkness) so they can't go after Sora yet or have to divert their attention elsewhere? That would definitely push Sora into an unhealthy mindset of believing that they tossed him aside or that they were only using him to save them and then left him alone once he had served his purpose. Definitely reminiscent of Anti-Aqua; "I waited forever for help to arrive... but no one ever came."
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
You can technically count Yozora as an "Evil" Sora due to the fact that he is technically the "Sora" of his world, seemingly being the mirror version of Sora, with his own Shield and Magic friends and his guiding light being a girl who can be represented by a star. Great theory by the way!
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
I think the biggest hint that Sora is going to the dark side is that he was denied the rank of master. Sora: "This is outrageous, it's unfair. " Yen-Sid: "Take a seat young.....whatever your last name is."
Why folks make it sound like the title of Master is really that big deal to Sora? Sure, it might annoy him a little to not get some of the skills hidden behind the title but the glory coming with it didn't seem to be that important. Getting into colosseum seemed to matter cause he could test his mettle and fight big shots, but title due mere title is another thing.
There's a lot of bits and pieces that hint at the possibility of maybe not villain but antagonist rather. From him turning into a heartless in the first game, old KH1 trailers, 2 keyblade wielders legend, his multiple dark forms, etc to symbolism and references to 7 sins, his being pride, lions and kings etc. Some of the stronger points of Sora's character are, his never dying optimism, his friends and connections as strength, simplicity and his tendency to break rules and do what he feels is right. Not to tell both Luxu and Xehanorth constantly seem to prepare Sora in a way, it's never entirely antagonistic and go as far as warning him and explaining things to him. Almost like testing him, or maybe simply confident of what he'll become. With all that in mind it doesn't sounds too far off that with the constantly being dragged into the darkness and light conflict, if his heart got jaded enough, separated from his light and friends, and casted away from worlds of dreams into "unreality" and was trying to either end that never ending battle or escape that, he very well could end up doing terrible things with good intention. Specially since he doesn't hesitate to use the power of awakening. A strong light casts a long shadow. I like the idea of a Sora who lost his way facing a more pure optimist Sora from long ago, to remind him who he was before losing that, to save Sora from himself.
@@tvbroekhuizen6980 It was the legend of the Keyblade in the KH1 secret reports that said that the keyblade wielder could save the worlds or destroy them, but not those words exactly I can't find a direct quote at the moment but that's the gist of it.
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
@@OrganizationXIII Yeah, tho that could mean a number of things. It could simply be that they want to separate the Disney and FF elements from it from now on.
I think I just realize something- it came to me when you mentioned the Coded stuff. So, in Days we fight Sora's memories, Vanitas, we fight Sora's image, but in Coded, we fight him consumed by darkness, but, also his data. Kingdom Hearts has gone out of the way to say the planes of reality are, (not counting Quadradum) The World, The Data World, and The Realm of Dreams. But, that's just it, Memories, Data, and Dreams- in Dream Drop you fight Armored Ventus, which, yes is Ventus' heart coming to Sora's aid, but we've fought the core aspects of Sora. His Memories, his Data, his image, which, came from his heart, so in a roundabout way, his heart, and his Dreams. And, as said in the video, Sora's pain, as well, through Data Roxas. We've fought everything about Sora, except Sora himself. Holy shit Master of Masters is totally fucking Sora I'm twitching.
Kairi's the Princess (of Light). Riku's the knight (Keyblade Master and true owner of Kingdom Key). And Sora's the evil wizard (the Master of Masters). How very Disney with the added Square Enix melodrama of, "How could you do this? WE WERE FRIENDS!" It's a believable twist to turn Sora's greatest strength into a weakness or a dependance.
The thing about that theory is that sora actually had the kingdom key before his journey even began he was just unable to manifest it while awake so I don't think it's accurate to say the kingdom key belongs to Riku plus it's literally a broken version of the x blade which was welded by Ventus
It be interesting if antagonist Sora finds out that the darkness has a tragic backstory (like the robots/shades in nier), forms bonds with them and goes against the good guys while not trying to truly hurt them
Sora is the story of xehanort without the influence of the mom but instead has the influence of Donald and goofy. The two people that helped him defeat his parallel of xehanort.
This speaks testements to Sora's strength as well. His Dark Version.. Inverse.. whatever, is so strong that he created his own genre of heartless based on the strength of his emotions alone
MoM's tagline is "May your heart be your guiding key" which roughly translates to "Do whatever your heart think it's right". Which kinda makes the MoM is Sora makes sense. Because Sora is literally writing his own story in his own game. This is possibly why Sora is being sent to another game. You know what? I'm calling it. I think there's a possibility that the next main KH game wont be called KH anymore. It becomes another game but with the story of KH.
The only other thing they could call it is Verum Rex and a game with a name like that oughta feature yozora as the main character, if anything tho it’s likely to just be called KH: Verum Rex
And I have an idea of where Sora is being sent to another game. You’re not going to believe me about what said another game that is. Well spoiler alert for Super Smash Bros Ultimate DLC pack 10 , it’s Sora that’s going to be in Super Smash Bros Ultimate.
I have no idea who you are or why you ended up in my recommended videos, I'm willing to bet it's because I clicked on a KH3 Mod video, but I am very glad I clicked on this. It was very interesting and excellent watch and while I've noticed a ton of these things, I've never really put it all together. That's why I enjoy the people who make these kinds of videos, you've earned yourself a new sub for sure, and I'll have to go back and watch some of your other videos too!!
Mom is at least fictionally self aware. He sets games and theater plays over reality to achieve his goals. Did you know the Foretellers were given their Names, Titles, and power by Mom? Roles and pieces in chess. Mom is literally playing a Game with You. So is Darkness, to a lesser degree.
I was really impressed with this possibility of Sora being a villain, it really made me thoughtful because Sora has several character deviations throughout the series
Plot twist: Kingdom hearts is actually Sora's heart cuz his heart is so big for the friends he made, little did he know his heart became too powerful and it burst into collective energy of all worlds hearts so he lost his heart and became MOM.
I mean, they spoiled the final Boss of Verum Rex being Sora, and yeah, they have been hinting at this for years. Pretty Sure the Master of Masters is Sora from the Future sent back in time due to the abuse of the Power of Waking, and basically Snapped trying to get home. Now that I think about it, Sora's Slow decent into darkness is pretty on the Nose... Overall pretty good theory, can't wait to see our Boy Snap at the end of Verum Rex if we get it.
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
Sora can't be the master of masters because he wasn't born in the age of fairytales so that means he can't travel to that time to become master of masters so the master of masters is a orginal character
@@nekogamer2508 Also, you don't need a body, just an artifact, like a Book, or the Eye. Mom can see into the future. If a higher dimenson being place itsel in the past, it "could" write in the past a Sora existence. Not saying that is true.
Walt Disney: "Around here, however, we don't look backwards for very long. We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things..." Sora: "I'll keep moving forward...until my enemies are destroyed."
Honestly this is one of the best theories I’ve seen for Sora being the MoM. Sora becoming a villain has always been an interesting (and heart wrenching) concept for me but I never thought it could actually happen. But after watching this it all kinda makes sense and now I’m slightly terrified. It would be insanely cool to see that play out.
I felt kh3 showed sora going to the dark side, he wears black, his emotions an selfish an apathy "yea yea this is the part where you say something an vanish"
I remember seeing that scream in the keyblade graveyard in a trailer and had thought that he was going to let the darkness take him in order to save Kairi and you were gonna have to play as Riku or Kairi to save him. I always had this idea of the trio being Light (Kairi), Twilight (Riku) and Darkness (Sora). I don't think darkness is inherently evil.
While I do believe that having Sora become a villian would be terrifyingly beautiful, there are a few points of evidence that I'm not too sure I am convinced about, at least going in the direction that you are. 1. Lets talk about point 30:16 the Melody of Memory "Possession" Now, part of this comes from delving a bit deeper in Union Cross since the finale. Let me start by saying I don't really think possession is actually what's happening here. Lets remember the name of the game is "Melody of Memory" Memory has always played a vital role in the Kingdom Hearts Saga and more recently we have discovered that actually it has even deeper meaning that we thought. I think your counterpoint was more on the mark, Kairi drove out her memory of Sora in order to create a stand-in but, this could also play a pivitol role in Sora's return... In Union Cross the Master explains his plan regarding the dandelions and the lifeboat, his plan is to send them into the future but, as stated by Xhenort that isn't exactly easy, however here, he explains the whole formula, to send someone through time, they must give up their body, to reconstitute, there must be a you waiting for you there, but the way that the Master describes it is that a memory and a catalyst can be used. The most prime example to date, is Brain, when he was brought into the future he landed in Scala en Callum, this event was probably not random. Luxu's job was to observe, therefore, he had to have had an idea of where each person would land. Luxu had the memory the catalyst was his hat. Now, lets return back to Sora, we know that Sora is in a place outside of time, time and space work differently. We also know that at the time of Re:Mind he was in the Final World. Lets call this Limbo. For one time only he was allowed to traverse but he no longer had a physical body that existed within the world with his friends, however, in this case his friends could be the Memory AND the catalyst. This would also work for past Sora himself, because his past self has the memories, so for a brief time as a "ghost" he was able to use the connections and the memories to stand by his friends side and change things. Still with me? Okay, Lets imagine, that the Keyblade itself could in fact be a catalyst, who did he go into in Re:Mind, himself and Roxas, Old Sora had the Kingdom Key Roxas had obivion and Oathkeeper but lets not forget, originally he had the Kingdom Key, if Oblivion and and Oathkeeper are in fact forms of the same Key the rule works. Okay, okay so, if all this is possible why can't Kairi or any of his friends bring him home, why is is still trapped? And even more to the point, how does this work for Kairy and Melody of Memory? Dreams contain Memory This is something we are told before in the series. What does that mean, well, to answer that, we have to surmise where Kairi is in Melody of Memory. Ideally, the question isn't that difficult Kairi is in the Realm of Sleep. Her memories, her dreams allow her to pull a Xion, creating the form of Sora. Okay, now lets talk about the second thing. Bequethement; Your theory suggests that Luxu is not actually the owner of The Gazing Eye; I'm not so sure, In the Backstory and in Union Cross, the Master knows he's going to vanish. so he creates this long endgame scheme one in which apparently Luxu is vital. I believe that the Master did actually bequeath The Gazing Eye to Luxu and lets not forget that the Keyblade Xhenort was holding when he "accepted" Sora was the X-blade. So, Xhenort dies, and his "Original" Keyblade goes back to its former Master Luxu. BUT WAIT!!! Does that mean that Sora still hasn't been bequeathed?? Not Necessarily. Even though there was no special rhyme like Tera did with Riku, Xhenort did in fact "Accept" Sora. So, if its not Gazing Eye, what keyblade has he inherited? Well, we could surmise that he inherited the X-blade but, that seems like it would make Sora a bit broken in the future. BUT Lets not forget that the X-blade was the first, the Keyblade to rule them all. Therefore, this means it has the entire Keyblade legacy. From here two options open up. 1. Sora can now wield ALL Keyblades (This again, seems a bit broken) 2. The Keyblade has now fully accepted him and therefore he can keep his hold onto the Kingdom Key. This would actually be poetic and continue with Kingdom Hearts beginnings. Lets not forget, originally The Kingdom Key did hold a specific significance, it was meant to keep balance in the realm of light while its counterpart, The Kingdom Key D was to be used to keep balance in the realm of Darkness. (large wall of text continuing in a new comment)
@@christiandelcarmen1278 they really just need a game where it’s both Riku and Kairi as main playable characters tbh, like whether there’s a character swap system and the one you’re not playing as is always in your party or if there’s some dual story happening like DDD, I would say I don’t mind either way but more interactions between those two would be great
@@SSlash fair... Just make DDD type of game without the Drop system. Or heck, make it so that you unlock more of the main story by switching around character POVs
This...would explain soo much if Sora is the Master. For the longest, I always wondered: Why Ven? What lead a newborn's heart to find his broken heart in that very moment? And then the thought of Sora orchestrating (and using possession of himself/and those connected to him) all of this...it's clear. He orchestrated Xenahort to keep Ven in order to unlock his darkness which made Vanitas, he then lead his infant heart to forever be connected with Ventus and therefore setting the stage for Roxas. Then adding Xenhort, Braig, etc. as basically pawns in his web, and soon bringing fourth the organization and whatnot. And the Yozora battle explaination was exactly what I was thinking! To save someone by fighting them feels like a clear indication that Sora has done something wrong in the future or another realm (or his older self the Master told Yozora that Sora needed to be saved by ridding him of his light). I defiantly agree with you, it's a very scary yet really interesting scenario, and I love it.
I actually thought this was Kairi using her newfound memory powers to temporarily gain Sora's abilities. Isn't that why Namine has memory powers too? I always thought that was just Kairis thing haha
Yozora is possibly the Sora boss fight in KH3. Firstly, his name. Yozora is clearly meant to evoke Sora. Sora meaning "sky" and Yozora meaing "night sky". Secondly, Yozora is probably a heart transferred character like Braig or Terranort. We learn from the nameless star that his heart has been replaced. When Sora calls him Yozora, he asks how he knows that, which is a normal think to ask if a stranger somehow knows your name, but later on he asks Sora how he knows that his name is specifically Yozora. Yozora also says, "this isn't what I really look like". So, what all this leads me to believe that Yozora is not the name of the body, but the name of the heart that replaced the original owner of the body. This would explain why Yozora asks why Sora knows the name of his heart when he is in another person's body and being in another's body means he doesn't look like what he really looks like. Thirdly, what Yozora's original body looks like probably looks like Sora. In Toybox, Rex and Hamm recognize Sora as Yozora and call him that all through out. This is strange because they don't look alike and Donald even says so. So, why do Rex and Hamm think that Sora is Yozora? Yozora's original body must have looked like Sora and they would've seen it when they were playing Verum Rex. Lastly, the reason why Yozora's original body looks like Sora and why he's so powerful is because his original body is possibly Sora himself. In Dream Drop Distance, Sora briefly falls to darkness. In doing so, he loses all of his powers and the power of waking, the powers of a master keyblade wielder. What I'm getting at is that all this that was lost became Yozora and somehow found itself into the body of the character that we meet in Remind. So, what's the evidence of this? Yozora is the most difficult boss fight in the entire series. Sora's master keyblade wielder abilities could give such challenge. When he steals the Sora's keyblade, regardless of which keyblade you're using, Yozora always uses the Ultima keyblade to attack. This further reflects his keyblade mastery as that's what the ultima keyblade represents. The final piece of evidence, Yozora has the power of waking. Yes that's right. Young Xehanort describes the power of waking as "the ability to traverse hearts to reach worlds". This is accurate to the first time that we see the power of waking get used when Riku uses it on Sora in Dream Drop Distance. Riku dives down to Sora's station of awakening (his heart) and then goes to destiny islands. Riku traversed a heart to reach a world. And Yozora does the same thing. He first points his crossbow at Sora, then Sora's station of awakening (his heart) appears from underneath, then Quadratum renders in around them. Yozora traversed a heart to reach a world. Yozora has the power of waking. Yozora is the Sora boss fight in KH3 because Yozora wields all the power that Sora lost in Dream Drop Distance.
Very well put together. Apparently the algorithm favors you some since all I did was click one mod video and suddenly you're in my feed. But your video reminds me of when Everglow posted his thoughts and theory on Ansem's Guardian being Terra after DDD, a theory that went pretty under the radar over the years until KH3 flat out showed it as a fact. Granted, I'm sure some people talked about it but I rarely ever saw the community discuss it much despite it being a pretty obvious take to make. I for one definitely feel the MoM being Sora theory has a lot going for it and its recognition in the fandom goes back and forth every now and then. However, you made some very well thought out points with many references and lore facts to help assert the plausibility of Sora being the villain of the story. Add it with Yozora's mysterious dialogue towards Sora in Remind and you've got yourself a well oiled theory that's closer to truth than fiction based on evidence presented. While nothing is set in stone, I will be keeping an eye on this theory video as the series continues. I'll be back if the theory somehow becomes reality as you are definitely the only person I've seen make a fairly in depth video analysis on this topic even compared to the more prominent members of the KH theory community so its only right that you deserve a good chunk of credit if it turns out you predicted everything pretty accurately. Here's to hoping you're right on the money cuz we all know that if this becomes true it'll make for an incredible time
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
If Sora becomes a villain, it would be interesting if Sora somehow the power of friendship was used against the good guys. I'd also like for Sora to become a bad guy since nomura doesn't like Sora and could be interesting development for the DI trio (especially kairi since she needs the most character development out of everyone) since after kh1, it felt like it was just about Sora and Riku and how Riku got the most development out of the 3. She (and/or the player from KHUX) could become the next protagonist since Kairi is also about light.
Darkness want Sora as a Proxy. Mom has him as a Proxy, his X. Darkness want him, you can see this if you take a look at Anti- Black coat Nighmare. Looks like Dark Chirithy, a Darkness.
I wonder if there's any way that Ava has a connection to Kairi. She may have to form her own "Dandelions" to take down Sora in the return to Kingdom Hearts. All I'm thinking about is how sweet it's going to be when Sora comes back, reveals how much he's gone through the sake of Kairi, only for her to reject him due to him no longer being the Sora she fell in love with. This, I can only imagine will lead us to a point where we play as a badass TRAINED Kairi and possibly the others in a series where we have to take down the boy we all fell in love with :C
"I wouldn't say it would be a stretch to say that Sora can possess people like Xehanort if he wanted to, and...well..." *Melody* Ooh I did not need to be reminded of that again.
Kinda off topic but anyway. I have a feeling that in the Future, since Sora is walking powerhouse, he might soon be able to evolve his powers where he can both use Light and Darkness simutaneously thus making him a Gray warrior like superhuman similar to the Father of the Ones from the Clone Wars.
a point l wanted to add to YOUR point about Sora possessing Kairi in MoM. Remember what Xehanort said? "Ah, your voice can't reach us here. I know where you are.." if this was just a memory of Sora, his voice not reaching and cluing Xehanort into the REAL Soras' location wouldn't make much sense. Therefore, it stands to reason that IS the real Sora in Kairi( *lenny face* ) . Also, your earlier point, the ventus nightmare using Soras keyblade. If that was still Sora cause of his keyblade, then the kingdom key in MoM proves as well that ALSO is Sora.
I’ve never been a huge fan of the “Sora is the MoM” theory...until now I think. This was a pretty incredible video. Thank you. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends. :)
It actually says a lot about Sora that, when confronted with stress/pressure and the emotion of despair his impulse is to lash out. Rage is Sora’s raw emotion when stripped of the things that bring him joy and happiness. It would be so interesting to flesh this side of him out and narratively have him explore why anger is the place he immediately goes to when he’s pushed so far emotionally.
You bring up a good point actually. Sora, for always being considered the nice, forgiving, happy-go-lucky kid, actually has quite a short temper and a tendency to lash out when he's upset. He is emotionally mature towards other people, but the way he behaves suggests that he doesn't understand his own feelings at all. We see him repress his negative emotions like sadness and try to put on a happy face for others. But when things overwhelm him he loses control and just tries to inflict pain, be it through his words or by attacking the person who upset him. He dances around his own feelings and doesn't seem to know how to set healthy boundaries.
Wow this is really well put together. I never really bought into the whole Sora is MOM but after this I'm wondering if its Sora's heart in the coat and his body is in the black box.
Wow !! What a great Analysis of Sora's development during the entire Serie !! And what a great Theory about the sequel !!! I really loved !! Wonderful Job !! And I think we could make a link between the Sentences that Sora says in the Opening of KHIII : "They can take Your World, They can take your Heart, Cut You loose from all you know, but If its your fate, then every step forward will be a step closer to home" So all what he said in the opening was true for himself (During the serie, his world was taken (KHI), and also his heart (When he became a Heartless or also at the End of KH3D, and at the end of KHIII, he was Cut from all he know !) Sora ironically is the only protagonist who didn't go back home at the end of KHIII. And maybe just like you said, he will never go back to home or at least not in a near future !
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
In a way, Dark Road illustrates how easy it is for a good person to fall to darkness. And we learn that Xeharnort's descent into villainy was initially paved with good intentions. So they have been foreshadowing the potentiality of a fall.
And he was even reincarnated after making the ultimate sacrifice. Maybe MoM won't need to die, per se. But he could be working towards a Re: Birth , in a way Starts good → reborn and walks the path of light → faces many trials that ultimately makes him embrace darkness Not exactly a Nort copy but something similar. Far greater and far more deadly Dark Road really opened a box of frightening possibilities
I'd like to add something to your theory: My take on why Sora became the Master of Masters is that he, in his desperation, became deranged and wrote the book of prophecies after becoming accustomed to the powers of manipulating the connection between hearts in order to let his childhood or his past story play out as it was meant to. The reason for that would be an even greater force or evil that would give Sora no other choice than to seal himself and others in a perpetual time loop in which different outcomes can occur. For example: Will Sora be able to defeat Ansem Seeker of Darkness in KH1? Will Sora really find his way back to his memories in Chain of Memories? Will Sora and Riku be able to defeat Xemnas and return back to the Realm of Light? Will Riku complete his Mark of Mastery and save Sora? And lastly, will Sora be able to overcome Xehanort in the final battle in Scala ad Caelum? These are, in my eyes, tests for his younger self to become the man he is as a Master of Masters. And even as the Master of Masters there is yet another Trial we know nothing about. What is he doing in this big city? And could this city just be a world that would later become "The World that never was" ? Your theory on the bequeathment ceremony of the X-blade or No Name is what brought this up. So in a distant future there is a choice for Sora to make: 1.) Will Sora be consumed by darkness or his despair, summon No Name and become the Master of Masters and so beget the "Bad Ending" in above mentioned time loop. 2.) Will Sora remind himself of the light he's chasing all this time to save Kairi and stay true to himself a.k.a "Let your heart be your guiding key" and summon the X-Blade, the counterpart to Kindgom Hearts, and let the primordial light of fairytales help him achieve his goal and lastly return back to his friends and restore all worlds, thus ending the endless struggle between light and darkness.
Dang, most of the time when I hear of a evil sora it’s sora-nort, which I don’t really care for, but this video gives a believe able route for sora to become the villain
Soranort walked so MoM-Sora could run. I mean Soranort was a real possibility for 9 years up until it was sadly dropped in KH3. That would have made a hell of a game.
Really interesting video. I've yet to be convinced of any theory that Sora is the MoM, but Sora becoming a villain could be a very interesting plot arc in general.
It's uncanny just how much KH content yt has throwing at me the past week. I hadn't so much as thought about KH in years. Even got me planning to play the series in release order As a fellow game designer, sweet fucking analysis. Gameplay as metaphor, and, every action is narrative, are two of my 10 commandments of game design that i try to follow. You rock! Very solid video essay!! Definitely subscribing and binging the other essay's Thanks for the dope video 👍🏿
See i thought of this concept too ever since i was a kid and then nomura said that sora was his “perfect good litte boy” and he made other characters to avoid what it would be like to see a evil characters instead of fight his pure light attitude. And tbh i really hope he sticks with that mindset because if he chose to make sora finally become the villain of the story it would go against everything he wanted from the character
This is by far one of the most compelling KH theories I have come across in a while. Having to fight dark versions of Sora over the course of the different games has always been unsettling to me. Watching this definitely reminded me of the 'uneasy' feeling I felt playing ReMind and Melody of Memory when Sora took Kairi's place at the end. I brushed those feelings off, couldn't put words to why I felt so unsettled and this video explains why I felt that way. Bravo to this. What a hugely missed opportunity if the future games aren't headed in this direction.
Maybe soras is the one who wrote the book of profecies, as a medium to keep his heart conected with his friends and the ones who have his heart conected or interacted.
Two main points: 1. Kairi is Square's "Disney Princess" which makes Sora her prince. They're set up to be paragons of virtue, so they would never become villains, though they might struggle with darkness at times. 2. Just as Xehanort wasn't actually there fighting Kairi, Sora wasn't either. It was Kairi's memory of Xehanort and Sora that showed up. Since Kairi feels she can never beat Xehanort, who is both a source of childhood and recent abuse, her memory of Xehanort is too strong for her to face, but her memory of Sora is strong enough to fight to save her. Memory Xehanort himself says it isn't really him, and all the information Kairi gets in Melody of Memories is just repressed information she already knew. So Sora's possession is more of a possessra than a possessza, not yet capable of possessing across realities. I think we might see something more along the lines of a Ventus/Vanitas like split with Sora if anything, where the hurt becomes too much for him to face without his friends and he splits his heart in two, the light remaining Sora, and the Darkness becoming the Master of Masters, determined to return no matter the cost. Then the whole past, creating the Gazing eye and the book of prophecies, etc. When Dark-Sora "Reunites" with the guardians, that gives Light-Sora a path home.
I could be wrong. I most likely am. But I have a theory that Yozora is the light that was extracted from Noctis. While Noctis remains in darkness. For example. When Yozora said “this isn’t what I really look like”. He could be implying that he himself was split into two separate entities. Enter Noctis who is the embodiment of Yozora’s darkness. I like your theory, but I think it applies more so to Yozora instead of Sora.
Ngl, the emphasis on sora "never changing" is a little suspicious now (lines like "sora, don't ever change"or "sora never changes"). Like, sora has changed/grown quite a bit and the people around him don't seem to realize just how much. I doubt "dont change" would be emphasized so much if it wasn't important/meant to be broken imo. But this is a cool theory, it'll be fun to see what actually ends up happening either way!
Yeah. Kh3 especially( and 0.2) definitely put in way too much effort to showing people's opinions of Sora and how much pressure/criticism he is under. Everyone says what kind of person Sora is and yet we see, like in the case of this video and throughout KH3/ReMind/Melody of Memory that Sora has grown beyond that notion of who he is. And the fact is happens multiple times and isn't just one throwaway line suggests it's important later.
Suddenly the cutscene where the dude cheating in the game of chess (don't crucify me, I forgot everything rn) on the light side suddenly makes sense. Between Goofy's rediculous strength, Pixar characters fucking shit up, Donald's Zettaflare and Sora alone, the Darkness never stood a chance. They're playing the game with a handicap.
Wow...this just furthers my theory on Sora possibly being the Master of Masters.. I forgot about Xehanort performing the bequeathing ceremony on Sora at the end of Kingdom Hearts 3. Since the keyblade was passed down from MoM to Luxu in Union Cross, then Luxu to Xehanort, then Xehanort to Sora, it would make absolute sense if Sora eventually becomes aware he can summon No Name, then uses his new time travel ability to pass it down to Luxu and again, the cycle goes. Craziness!
I did hear a sort of "Mini-theory" from Bio-Roxas in one of his form breakdown videos, I think it was the one for Rage Form. Anyway. It revolves around Anti Form vs Rage Form. If you look at how Anti Form and Rage Form work... For those unfamiliar, in KH2, there is a secret system known as the "Anti point" system. Basically, every time you use a drive form, the counter increases. Except for Final Form, which actually decreases the counter. The system is actually really complicated, so I'd recommend watching Bio-Roxas' breakdown video for Anti Form. Anyway, as the counter increases, your chances for getting Anti Form the next time you use a drive form increases. Then look at Rage Form. The situation command for Rage Form will only appear when Sora is at or below 25% health, which is when you hear the low health siren. So, from that, you could say that Anti Form is Sora's punishment for wanting too much power, while Rage Form is Sora using the darkness as a last resort to stay alive.
Something I just realized. Looking at this, this also explains why Sora has a keyblade in Rage Form, but not Anti Form. It's because while in Anti Form, the keyblade leaves him due to the darkness and his lust for power, whereas in Rage Form, Sora is trying to protect himself. He's using the darkness because he has to. That's why he still has a keyblade in Rage Form, but not Anti Form.
Honestly, I really hope this isn't the ending. It definitely makes so much sense, but I'm pretty sure I would actually cry if Sora became the MoM/ultimate villain. Just thinking about it is making my heart hurt right now, so I'm going to just go read some happy fanfics and try not to think about it. Great video, it just made me sad.
The theory that sora is the master of masters is more likely. One of soras catchphrases is "let your heart be your guiding key" which is something the master of masters has said
But he kinda got that from yen sid apparently, granted we didn’t actually see him speak those words until goofy had brought this up, and even then Sora still hasn’t said it that many times
In kh character files, kairi's story ends with her telling sora to not give up and not to disappear. She also questions her ability to protect him. I could see them going into a direction with a final showdown between Kairi and Sora especially if Sora falls too far
If the MoM goes back in time the Age of Fairytales, and Sora is his "younger self," what if the Kingdom Hearts timeline/cluster we play thru is the Sora of Masters attempting to "right" the timeline from his own failure. For all we know, the outcome we saw in KH3 was the best case scenario that the MoM saw and was able to guide the multiverse to.
Only to accidentally recreate a far more dangerous version of himself... Imagine the layers of betrayal Sora would feel. All of his friends suffering, all of their pain, was his fault Rather than ending the cycle, he ends up kick-starting an even worse case out of his best case Probably not what's going to happen. There are so many good ideas in this thread (video comment sections) that, if we're all wrong / way off, someone should hijack the ideas and make their own game with it lol It's a goddamn Greek Tragedy
Personally, I think MoM may just be the embodiment of Light. He wants to forgo realities and set up warriors to take down Darkness, ones who maybe aren't set to perish since the don't live in a world of light and darkness. He could've made the trials Yozora went through and told him to "Save" Sora (Subdue and possibly ally him) Why would MoM want this? I think he wants to tip the balance of Light and Darkness itself.
"Hurt." The worst term used in KH history. It's so awkward, just use pain. English translators be dumb. Another thing: Roxas' hurt isn't the first time Sora felt 'hurt'. Though it is the first time for Data Sora to feel 'hurt. Just a minor correction.
Sora = MoM I have no doubt about that. Sora or Demyx, but pretty sure it's Sora. Or rather, future Sora. Been thinking that ever since KH1 with the Shadow Sora fight. That he could end up being the big ultimate bad
Ok, I'm 10 minutes into the video and I can tell it's already amazing, thank you! I've been a fan of Kingdom Hearts for over 16 years and the idea of Sora being the final FINAL boss or evil in the game both absolutely baffles and amazes me, I've also noticed how many times that was hinted in the games, it would be interesting to see in the end.
Riku was a pseudo-villain/antagonist before in KH1-KH2 (as Repliku and as the Cloaked Figure/Ansem). Making him the villain would destroy his entire 20 year old arc of overcoming his darkness.
Imagine we were wrong about the reason behind the looks of Vanitas, and that’s just his own appearance since is dark sora at some point in time, thus he looks like that on BBS “older” than the “real” Sora
I agree and have noticed the Sora as a boss themes throughout the games, it feels like a "Shadow Link" video game trope, but with plot implications. However, I'm not too sure about tying it in together with the MoM being Sora.
The director did say he was Xeonort at one point and he thoroughly enjoyed finding different ways to try to break Sora so what if he does ultimately break Sora
I like that you don’t hate DDD. It’s so played out to “hate DDD” and talk about how confusing it is. It never felt that way to me. Feels pretty consistent with the story, and, if we’re fair, the story got confusing and a bit ad hoc with CoM. This theory is super interesting. I’ve considered this previously as either foreshadowing or perhaps as a way to reinforce what darkness is and the inevitability of it. I figured for a while it was a way to connect to what Sora said to Xehanort at the end of KH3 about who gave him the authority to make the decision to remake the world (something along those lines). We can’t have light without a counterpart, yin without the yang, basically.
This video single-handedly made me believe this theory. It also made me want to actually play every single KH game when I’ve only beaten the numbered games so far. You’ve kick-started my love for the series again and made me remember just how dark it can really be. Thank you! 💗✨
Same. KH stuff has been popping up lately. I own a lot of the games but haven't played them myself. Now I want to do a playthrough of the series in release order lol
Now, let me make one thing clear, these are only two incompletes I see in your theory however, the theory as a whole, I think is actually fairly solid. Sora COULD become a Vilnian in the true "endgame" Now, let me fire a different theory your way, one that I think is actually poetically-terrifying. How could Sora become a villain? First, what do we know about Sora? He wants to save EVERYONE that is his very being, he believes everyone deserves to be rescued, in fact, I think in the end, he was even satisfied that it seemed like Xhenort was "freed" This is the very thing that makes Sora, Sora, it leads into his connections with people, his drive, and yes even his desperation. It is his biggest strength. But, as often is the case, Strength and Weakness are two sides of the same coin. This, like your theory goes with the idea that Sora is in fact the Master of Masters. Sora's way at looking at things is infectious, most of his friends want to be like him, they wish they had his strength, especially Riku. Now, imagine this scenario: With the Finale of Union Cross now behind us, we now have more info including the fact that he apparently raised his "apprentices" to trap the seven true Darkness's but why did he do this? Because, originally there were no fortellers and therefore the only way to do this was for the original 7 lights to be the sacrifices. BUT wait! Sora was one of the original 7 wasn't he? Honestly, it would not surprise me if one of his friends were to plot to take his place, perhaps Namine. With that done Sora has no choice but do defeat his friends in order to stop the true evil. This push drives Sora past the brink going past mad and actually becoming "sane" collected, and sneaky. This time however he is now a sociopath. His only concern, saving his friends, and yet, there's still a nagging because he does also say that he has a plan to "save them" One might think that refers to the plan of the lifeboats back in the time of fairytailes. But what if that's not the plan he was referring to? That leads me to remind you of an old rule of time Not all events can be avoided especially if the better good is at stake. The endgame has begun, the final battle and the final Keyblade War: The Masters plan supposedly is to trap the Real Darkness's in the Foretellers even if Master Sora would truly allow that, the Sora we know WOULD NOT. The deed is about to be done and the Foretellers have given into their fates, but the Guardians refuse and once again are willing to become Martyrs, at this point however Sora has already lost too much and will not allow it, thinking that his light is strong enough he alone absorbs the 13 true Darkness's saving his friends and the foretellers but, we are talking about PURE DARKNESS here, and as a full cycle Master Sora realizes all he has done is traded one madness for another at this point one of two things happens. 1. Master Sora joins us but we still have to fight and possibly destroy the Sora we grew up with 2. The loss of his young self, the idea that nothing he could do would truly make everything okay, drives him down to the True Darkness and in a final clash we have to fight both Sora's.
You know, once you started going into the Master of Masters, I was thinking, "Yo, wouldn't it be wild if she said that Sora was the Master?" And then I started thinking about it... and then _you started talking about it..._
Rather than literally being the MoM I think they parallel each other in interesting ways. Sora seems to be an abnormality compared to everyone else specifically because of how powerful he is. It's glossed over a lot but it truly is strange that Sora has a keyblade at all when it's repeatedly mentioned that he doesn't have the aptitude for it (even post Ventus restoration). I think the truly horrifying part of him going evil is that every instance of power we know directly comes from Sora seems to be an endless darkness. While his (friends) are his light, Sora’s potential from the very first game seems to be distinctly themed towards darkness. And if I want to enter crackpot theory range if anything it seems like the key blades keep him in check more than anything. As an aside in KH1 we don't see Sora’s strength represented as anything “good”. The sword, staff, and shield have fairly ominous descriptions for the player--especially the sword which is arguably what he canonically chose. Almost every clue points to his strength being great and terrible.
Kingdom key also left Sora for Riku, a friend blatantly backstabbed his friend, merely for filling some right merits. I think those blades themselves aren't as goody even on light-side. Wouldn't be surprised if keyblades are revealed to be some of their own entities with questionable work ethics.
@@Yurikon3 The MoM did tell the guardians that the keyblades are not meant to fight the darkness. He never specified what they were for in that film because Ira determined that they had to fight and prevent the darkness and the MoM ultimately said he could do what he wants and to try.
@@Dragon_Lair makes sense. Im not that versed into the lore, but what I have understood, keyblades are more ambivalent things. Would not be surprised if they are later revealed to some semi-sentinent entities.
Wow! Ok, so I have a few questions: 1. Why DID Ventus’s Nightmare Armor thing attack Riku, even though Ventus’s heart didn’t recognize him? 2. How can Master Xehanort turn Sora into a villain? I mean, hello! He’s gone! 3. Does Ventus have a Lingering Will when he’s protecting Sora? Or...you know, like in the same way as Terra?
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If sora is the MoM then the time travel and dimension traveling shit they introduce will cripple the story. Right now there is so much potential that the story is fucking goated. Ventus was born pure of heart, that may be why darkness is so tied to him (light allows the shadow to be cast) so what if sora is just like ventus (maybe thats why soras heart was able to heal him) both are pure humans of light, which gives darkness a foothold from the shadow their light allows to be cast. Loved the analysis!
I always been saying that the kingdom hearts we were playing as the darkness not the light.
Because of this line: seven lights thirteen darknesses.
Of the organization 13 there is only 7 official members of the real organization 13. And how many do we have?
1 sora. 2 Kairi. 3 Riku. 4 Ven. 5 Terra. 6 Aqua. 7 Roxas. 8 Xion. 9 Lee. 10 Mickey. 11 Donald. 12 goofy. 13 Ephimiser.
What was the last number? 13. And 13 is 6 more then 7.
So why haven’t fans realize that the main characters are the villains along?
Over 11k views. You're pretty cool! :) Being real though, great video. :)
@@eddog6666 not really aren’t guardians of light keyblade wielders? Donald and goofy aren’t keyblade wielders and ephemer didn’t clash with org so he isn’t a guardian. The x blade is in 20 fragments so if 26 people fought obviously some of they wouldn’t be guardians of lighy
The player character protagonist to save fallen sora will be the 'definitely not noctis', after it is important to remember BOTH of those characters are important to Nomura. The more Nomura is able to transfer his responsibilities in the FF7R series unto others, the sooner the KH story will continue. Unless....oh dear SE decides they want to see a Yoko Taro KH..... though it will be disneyless, cause there is no way the mouse would knowingly let Taro touch their characters.
I find it funny Riku turning evil is a minor speedbump in the series.
If Sora became evil itd be a cataclysm
is the one getting crap done in any case
I mean if Riku got evilized a second time at THIS point it would also be fucked. The only reason why Riku wasn't full cataclysm apocalypse mode in KH1 is because he's just powered with Maleficent's darkness who didn't have any real specific darkness aside from darkness in general. At THIS point, Riku would not only have his own darkness but also probably Hurt if some memory related event makes him willingly become evil again. While we haven't seen 100% absolute Hurt, what we've likely seen of Hurt produces some concerning results (Namely Sora's reaction to being challenged on his "memories" of Namine). And if that is what actually happens when harboring it, Riku could produce some absolute CARNAGE.
I like to think of it as "The light turning to the Dark." If light turns dark, then what hope is there. The same way Baldr in Dark Road was consumed by sadness, anger, and then vengeance, Sora nearly fell into the same cycle in KH3. Without someone there to remind him of hope and the belief in himself, the light that guides the world, the child of destiny falling to darkness would mean cataclysm
Too deep, but a cool philosophical approach to Sora being the great evil. Also, I can see the Ux parallel of Sora (Player character) fighting his against his two best friends in the end (Donald and Goofy at first, but ultimately Riku and Kairi stopping him 😢)
Just Imagine a cover where Sora is Sitting alone, in a broken throne, with only one keyblade represented in it, No Name
That would be dope!
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
I think it would make perfect sense if Sora is the Master of Masters, at least an older version of Sora
@@OrganizationXIII Riku, my dude, are you sure you should be saying this? He's your bff!
@@timh.7169-Or a Future him from a bad alternate timeline. Vanitas is latin for Vanity or Emptiness(Or both) and as the Master of Master renamed his apprentices after six of the seven deadly sins, only one was left unaccounted for: Pride/Vanity.
@@Veritas_Quaesitor_IIV maybe this older Sora isn't entirely evil after all, like in netflix series Dark. He just has to keep the time cycle repeating
“You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
Aka: “You either die a Sora or live long enough to see yourself become a Xehanort.”
Aka: You either save the world, only to be nerfed by the next game or you get Grampy Badtouch
AKA Nomura’s most crucial diary entry. Seems like he is talking about himself in a way, see the correlation yet?
MoM*
This aged really good lol
man, how true this became is scary
at first i was like "there's no way theyd ever make sora a villain" but the more i thought abt it. the more it sunk in. the more i realized nomura is crazy enough to do it
Nomura might but Disney is an even harder sell..
@@christiandelcarmen1278 Eh Disney is a bunch of sellouts if they start hurting bad enough if another wave of Covid hits they cave in eventually
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
I don’t think Disney cares as much about Sora in comparison to the other Disney properties in KH
@@dangosandlemons well the ones Disney needs I remind you that Disney Characters get hurt constantly in KH Goofy nearly dies mickey gets chocked out Davy Jones gets punched hard in the head sora threatens Mike Wazowsky with a Keyblade you can beat up Peter Pan, Terra Curses Sleeping Beauty, Baymax gets Possessed, Buzz gets possessed Donald nearly dies in the keyblade graveyard on and so on
It would be a satisfying twist for the series. Sora falling so far that all his friends have to come together and save him for once.
Didn't Kairi and Riku even Aqua saved Sora in previous Kingdom Hearts game?
And all ends up as a hug lol(if it does im cancelling my life subscription)
@Doctor Whos 😏
@Doctor Whos yes
@Doctor Whos save that for terra and aqua after they get married
i actually really like this idea of Sora becoming the ultimate villain due to his own desperation, it would be the ultimate climax for the series tbh
Yeah and this time Kairi has to save him via teeth gritting pain of fighting. No princess ex machina for you Kairi.
I want Sora to be a KHUx style of raid boss where he has 40 health bars and 13 phases
@@christiandelcarmen1278 Gosh darn! If he had that much health and that many phases, who knows how long it's gonna take to defeat him!
@@galaxystarstudios7160 Yeah but I want it to be like Kefka’s final boss battle where your team switches in once they get KO’d. A team of 3 every time.
Mickey, Donald and Goofy
Kairi, Riku and Namine
Way finder Trio
SeaSalt Trio
OG Princesses
New Wave Princesses
And then Winnie the Pooh carrying the Hunny Launcher.
@@christiandelcarmen1278 Oh, actually that would be really cool.
@@christiandelcarmen1278 Pooh just needs that baseball bat. Robinson's pitches have made him batter of the legends.
Lets be honest Sora's mom is actually the MOM. The battle cry will be "YOU SHOULD HAVE COME DOWN FOR DINNER"!!!
You never see Sora's mom. Or, to add some punctuation and expand slightly:
You never see - Sora _is_ MoM.
OMG I CAN'T! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That shit was whack
YES
I love it when the happy go lucky protagonist of a series like this is recognized as the horrifyingly powerful demigod they actually are. There's something oddly satisfying about having a character in universe acknowledge how unbearably lucky they are the protagonist is on there side and isn't a ruthless monster like the bad guys are, because if they ever switched sides they would make all the villains they've fought previously look like push overs
You mean like Goku Naruto and the rest of anime
@@shonascott5499 Yozura will become the protagonist and Sora becomes the Antagonist! The one true king 👑
Kirby is the epitome of this lol. He's even called a demon by his enemies. I know that's kinda unrelated to Sora but it's the first protag that came to my mind when you said that lmao.
@@OrganizationXIII what are you talking about Naruto never turned so did Goku actually I can just think of a very few examples for that
You and Gon from Hunter X Hunter are gonna get along just fine
If Sora becomes a villain, it may be out of desperation to finally get the happy ending without a drawback.
Everytime he saves the day, someone or something gets lost. Kairi, Riku, his memories, himself.
He may think he finds a way for everyone to be happy but it's going to hurt them in the short term.
Well it's like in Chain of Memories when one of the organization members said ( idk who, not Axel)
" To find is to lose... To lose is to find..."
I could see a very dark twist being that Sora's friends never find a way to rescue him, and he comes back of his own accord once he has the strength. He was always there for his friends, but when he needed them, where were they.
Yesssss. And that fact that they may have been pushed to handle the newest threat against them (MoM/Foretellers/Darkness) so they can't go after Sora yet or have to divert their attention elsewhere? That would definitely push Sora into an unhealthy mindset of believing that they tossed him aside or that they were only using him to save them and then left him alone once he had served his purpose. Definitely reminiscent of Anti-Aqua; "I waited forever for help to arrive... but no one ever came."
@@shonascott5499 I can definitely see Masters of Masters manipulating him in a future installment, as he does with everyone else
Naah wouldnt be his character..n he didnt want them..to
Sora/Davy Jones: Why WEREN'T YOU THERE?
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
You can technically count Yozora as an "Evil" Sora due to the fact that he is technically the "Sora" of his world, seemingly being the mirror version of Sora, with his own Shield and Magic friends and his guiding light being a girl who can be represented by a star. Great theory by the way!
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
@@OrganizationXIII im all for it as long as they make something great with Sora
He’s Noctis actually
Also assuming that Yazora is indeed evil or a villain.
@@adammorin2955
Well he doesn't have to be evil really, just the opposite of Sora, which he definitely seems to be
I think the biggest hint that Sora is going to the dark side is that he was denied the rank of master.
Sora: "This is outrageous, it's unfair. "
Yen-Sid: "Take a seat young.....whatever your last name is."
Seriously, why aren't any of the characters given last names??
I mean Sora has always been close to the darkness
@@user-ko3sd9qj2h the brighter the light, the deeper the shadow.
Why folks make it sound like the title of Master is really that big deal to Sora? Sure, it might annoy him a little to not get some of the skills hidden behind the title but the glory coming with it didn't seem to be that important.
Getting into colosseum seemed to matter cause he could test his mettle and fight big shots, but title due mere title is another thing.
@@galaxystarstudios7160 Sora Mario
There's a lot of bits and pieces that hint at the possibility of maybe not villain but antagonist rather. From him turning into a heartless in the first game, old KH1 trailers, 2 keyblade wielders legend, his multiple dark forms, etc to symbolism and references to 7 sins, his being pride, lions and kings etc. Some of the stronger points of Sora's character are, his never dying optimism, his friends and connections as strength, simplicity and his tendency to break rules and do what he feels is right.
Not to tell both Luxu and Xehanorth constantly seem to prepare Sora in a way, it's never entirely antagonistic and go as far as warning him and explaining things to him. Almost like testing him, or maybe simply confident of what he'll become.
With all that in mind it doesn't sounds too far off that with the constantly being dragged into the darkness and light conflict, if his heart got jaded enough, separated from his light and friends, and casted away from worlds of dreams into "unreality" and was trying to either end that never ending battle or escape that, he very well could end up doing terrible things with good intention. Specially since he doesn't hesitate to use the power of awakening. A strong light casts a long shadow.
I like the idea of a Sora who lost his way facing a more pure optimist Sora from long ago, to remind him who he was before losing that, to save Sora from himself.
I have never heard of the "2 keyblade wielders legend" before, got some kind of link to what that is in reference too?
@@tvbroekhuizen6980 It's in the secret reports in KH1 forgot which one exactly.
@@tvbroekhuizen6980 It was the legend of the Keyblade in the KH1 secret reports that said that the keyblade wielder could save the worlds or destroy them, but not those words exactly I can't find a direct quote at the moment but that's the gist of it.
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
@@OrganizationXIII Yeah, tho that could mean a number of things. It could simply be that they want to separate the Disney and FF elements from it from now on.
I think I just realize something- it came to me when you mentioned the Coded stuff.
So, in Days we fight Sora's memories, Vanitas, we fight Sora's image, but in Coded, we fight him consumed by darkness, but, also his data.
Kingdom Hearts has gone out of the way to say the planes of reality are, (not counting Quadradum) The World, The Data World, and The Realm of Dreams. But, that's just it, Memories, Data, and Dreams- in Dream Drop you fight Armored Ventus, which, yes is Ventus' heart coming to Sora's aid, but we've fought the core aspects of Sora. His Memories, his Data, his image, which, came from his heart, so in a roundabout way, his heart, and his Dreams. And, as said in the video, Sora's pain, as well, through Data Roxas. We've fought everything about Sora, except Sora himself.
Holy shit Master of Masters is totally fucking Sora I'm twitching.
Kairi's the Princess (of Light). Riku's the knight (Keyblade Master and true owner of Kingdom Key). And Sora's the evil wizard (the Master of Masters). How very Disney with the added Square Enix melodrama of, "How could you do this? WE WERE FRIENDS!"
It's a believable twist to turn Sora's greatest strength into a weakness or a dependance.
The thing about that theory is that sora actually had the kingdom key before his journey even began he was just unable to manifest it while awake so I don't think it's accurate to say the kingdom key belongs to Riku plus it's literally a broken version of the x blade which was welded by Ventus
This is THE best "Sora is MoM" theory ever, REALLY great video.
It be interesting if antagonist Sora finds out that the darkness has a tragic backstory (like the robots/shades in nier), forms bonds with them and goes against the good guys while not trying to truly hurt them
Sora is the story of xehanort without the influence of the mom but instead has the influence of Donald and goofy. The two people that helped him defeat his parallel of xehanort.
This speaks testements to Sora's strength as well. His Dark Version.. Inverse.. whatever, is so strong that he created his own genre of heartless based on the strength of his emotions alone
MoM's tagline is "May your heart be your guiding key" which roughly translates to "Do whatever your heart think it's right". Which kinda makes the MoM is Sora makes sense. Because Sora is literally writing his own story in his own game. This is possibly why Sora is being sent to another game.
You know what? I'm calling it. I think there's a possibility that the next main KH game wont be called KH anymore. It becomes another game but with the story of KH.
The only other thing they could call it is Verum Rex and a game with a name like that oughta feature yozora as the main character, if anything tho it’s likely to just be called KH: Verum Rex
Sora is Mom's proxy, his favorite chess piece.
And I have an idea of where Sora is being sent to another game. You’re not going to believe me about what said another game that is. Well spoiler alert for Super Smash Bros Ultimate DLC pack 10 , it’s Sora that’s going to be in Super Smash Bros Ultimate.
@@santiagosiliceo63 but it doesn't have the story of KH anyways.
You mean like Verum Rex
Looking back at the Xemnas and Sora one. Never noticed it until now. Remind Sora was ready to kill Xemnas. Pre remind didn’t have that in mind
When?
@kyestar88 imagine getting upset of a theory
Everyone is a villain as is, they’re terrorizing each other with their fashion
LMFAO!!!
Then that would mean it's a war with Xehanort and the Three Good Fairies with the battlegrounds as Shibuya...
I have no idea who you are or why you ended up in my recommended videos, I'm willing to bet it's because I clicked on a KH3 Mod video, but I am very glad I clicked on this. It was very interesting and excellent watch and while I've noticed a ton of these things, I've never really put it all together. That's why I enjoy the people who make these kinds of videos, you've earned yourself a new sub for sure, and I'll have to go back and watch some of your other videos too!!
Oh my god the same exact thing happened to me I watched some mod videos then saw this recommended watched this and got my socks blown off
Dang...roxas theme makes me cry, same for my other boy terra’s return in kh3
Sora as a villain could really be like a web weaver and a puppet master with everyone’s hearts on his strings
Honestly, at this point in time, I wouldn't be surprised if MoM is actually Nomura as a Self-Insert...
Me neither
Mom is at least fictionally self aware. He sets games and theater plays over reality to achieve his goals. Did you know the Foretellers were given their Names, Titles, and power by Mom? Roles and pieces in chess. Mom is literally playing a Game with You. So is Darkness, to a lesser degree.
I was really impressed with this possibility of Sora being a villain, it really made me thoughtful because Sora has several character deviations throughout the series
Plot twist: Kingdom hearts is actually Sora's heart cuz his heart is so big for the friends he made, little did he know his heart became too powerful and it burst into collective energy of all worlds hearts so he lost his heart and became MOM.
I mean, they spoiled the final Boss of Verum Rex being Sora, and yeah, they have been hinting at this for years. Pretty Sure the Master of Masters is Sora from the Future sent back in time due to the abuse of the Power of Waking, and basically Snapped trying to get home. Now that I think about it, Sora's Slow decent into darkness is pretty on the Nose... Overall pretty good theory, can't wait to see our Boy Snap at the end of Verum Rex if we get it.
wait, so Verum Rex is officially creater by SE now?
How did they spoil the final boss of verum rex being sora?
@@hanifj1225 No.
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
Me: Sora is a valid candidate for MoM
awesomeonmyworld: Sora kinda dumb tho
Me: oh you right
I love my boi, and he isn't dumb really but.... he also dumb
@@awesomeinmyworld He may be dumb but he is our dumb boi.
Sora can't be the master of masters because he wasn't born in the age of fairytales so that means he can't travel to that time to become master of masters so the master of masters is a orginal character
sora isn't really dumb more like uneducated and left out of the loop 24/7 so he doesn't know whats going on nearly all the time
@@nekogamer2508 Also, you don't need a body, just an artifact, like a Book, or the Eye. Mom can see into the future. If a higher dimenson being place itsel in the past, it "could" write in the past a Sora existence. Not saying that is true.
Walt Disney: "Around here, however, we don't look backwards for very long. We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things..."
Sora: "I'll keep moving forward...until my enemies are destroyed."
That ending of AoT makes Kingdom Hearts story appear more coherent.
So........does this mean Sora will become a Bird one day? 😂
Also this would makes sense if Sora is the Master of Masters 😂
@@captainvalourous6668 I did it because im in love with donald
@@captainvalourous6668 Goofys just there like "thanks for becoming a mass murderer for us" Hyuck*
Honestly this is one of the best theories I’ve seen for Sora being the MoM. Sora becoming a villain has always been an interesting (and heart wrenching) concept for me but I never thought it could actually happen. But after watching this it all kinda makes sense and now I’m slightly terrified. It would be insanely cool to see that play out.
I felt kh3 showed sora going to the dark side, he wears black, his emotions an selfish an apathy "yea yea this is the part where you say something an vanish"
I remember seeing that scream in the keyblade graveyard in a trailer and had thought that he was going to let the darkness take him in order to save Kairi and you were gonna have to play as Riku or Kairi to save him. I always had this idea of the trio being Light (Kairi), Twilight (Riku) and Darkness (Sora). I don't think darkness is inherently evil.
Wearing black doesn't equal darkness and telling your enemy to fuck off because you're anoyed they all keep doing the same thing isn't either.
@@ORIGINALFBIYeah, especially looking at how many KH characters wear black.
While I do believe that having Sora become a villian would be terrifyingly beautiful, there are a few points of evidence that I'm not too sure I am convinced about, at least going in the direction that you are.
1. Lets talk about point 30:16 the Melody of Memory "Possession" Now, part of this comes from delving a bit deeper in Union Cross since the finale. Let me start by saying I don't really think possession is actually what's happening here. Lets remember the name of the game is "Melody of Memory" Memory has always played a vital role in the Kingdom Hearts Saga and more recently we have discovered that actually it has even deeper meaning that we thought. I think your counterpoint was more on the mark, Kairi drove out her memory of Sora in order to create a stand-in but, this could also play a pivitol role in Sora's return...
In Union Cross the Master explains his plan regarding the dandelions and the lifeboat, his plan is to send them into the future but, as stated by Xhenort that isn't exactly easy, however here, he explains the whole formula, to send someone through time, they must give up their body, to reconstitute, there must be a you waiting for you there, but the way that the Master describes it is that a memory and a catalyst can be used. The most prime example to date, is Brain, when he was brought into the future he landed in Scala en Callum, this event was probably not random.
Luxu's job was to observe, therefore, he had to have had an idea of where each person would land. Luxu had the memory the catalyst was his hat.
Now, lets return back to Sora, we know that Sora is in a place outside of time, time and space work differently. We also know that at the time of Re:Mind he was in the Final World. Lets call this Limbo. For one time only he was allowed to traverse but he no longer had a physical body that existed within the world with his friends, however, in this case his friends could be the Memory AND the catalyst. This would also work for past Sora himself, because his past self has the memories, so for a brief time as a "ghost" he was able to use the connections and the memories to stand by his friends side and change things. Still with me? Okay,
Lets imagine, that the Keyblade itself could in fact be a catalyst, who did he go into in Re:Mind, himself and Roxas, Old Sora had the Kingdom Key Roxas had obivion and Oathkeeper but lets not forget, originally he had the Kingdom Key, if Oblivion and and Oathkeeper are in fact forms of the same Key the rule works.
Okay, okay so, if all this is possible why can't Kairi or any of his friends bring him home, why is is still trapped? And even more to the point, how does this work for Kairy and Melody of Memory?
Dreams contain Memory
This is something we are told before in the series. What does that mean, well, to answer that, we have to surmise where Kairi is in Melody of Memory. Ideally, the question isn't that difficult Kairi is in the Realm of Sleep. Her memories, her dreams allow her to pull a Xion, creating the form of Sora.
Okay, now lets talk about the second thing.
Bequethement;
Your theory suggests that Luxu is not actually the owner of The Gazing Eye; I'm not so sure, In the Backstory and in Union Cross, the Master knows he's going to vanish. so he creates this long endgame scheme one in which apparently Luxu is vital. I believe that the Master did actually bequeath The Gazing Eye to Luxu and lets not forget that the Keyblade Xhenort was holding when he "accepted" Sora was the X-blade. So, Xhenort dies, and his "Original" Keyblade goes back to its former Master Luxu.
BUT WAIT!!!
Does that mean that Sora still hasn't been bequeathed?? Not Necessarily. Even though there was no special rhyme like Tera did with Riku, Xhenort did in fact "Accept" Sora. So, if its not Gazing Eye, what keyblade has he inherited? Well, we could surmise that he inherited the X-blade but, that seems like it would make Sora a bit broken in the future.
BUT
Lets not forget that the X-blade was the first, the Keyblade to rule them all. Therefore, this means it has the entire Keyblade legacy. From here two options open up.
1. Sora can now wield ALL Keyblades (This again, seems a bit broken)
2. The Keyblade has now fully accepted him and therefore he can keep his hold onto the Kingdom Key. This would actually be poetic and continue with Kingdom Hearts beginnings.
Lets not forget, originally The Kingdom Key did hold a specific significance, it was meant to keep balance in the realm of light while its counterpart, The Kingdom Key D was to be used to keep balance in the realm of Darkness. (large wall of text continuing in a new comment)
Kairi or Riku should be playable to fight Antagonist Sora since they're childhood friends.
If it’s Riku I’ll cry a lot, it would be like a return to the battle between them in Hollow Bastion but with Sora evil
God, I hope it's Kairi. Let her do something important with Riku as the side chick... Riku already shined during Re:CoM and DDD
@@christiandelcarmen1278 they really just need a game where it’s both Riku and Kairi as main playable characters tbh, like whether there’s a character swap system and the one you’re not playing as is always in your party or if there’s some dual story happening like DDD, I would say I don’t mind either way but more interactions between those two would be great
@@SSlash fair... Just make DDD type of game without the Drop system.
Or heck, make it so that you unlock more of the main story by switching around character POVs
Norting. When you snort Master Xehanort premium heart dust.
This...would explain soo much if Sora is the Master. For the longest, I always wondered: Why Ven? What lead a newborn's heart to find his broken heart in that very moment? And then the thought of Sora orchestrating (and using possession of himself/and those connected to him) all of this...it's clear. He orchestrated Xenahort to keep Ven in order to unlock his darkness which made Vanitas, he then lead his infant heart to forever be connected with Ventus and therefore setting the stage for Roxas. Then adding Xenhort, Braig, etc. as basically pawns in his web, and soon bringing fourth the organization and whatnot. And the Yozora battle explaination was exactly what I was thinking! To save someone by fighting them feels like a clear indication that Sora has done something wrong in the future or another realm (or his older self the Master told Yozora that Sora needed to be saved by ridding him of his light).
I defiantly agree with you, it's a very scary yet really interesting scenario, and I love it.
I actually thought this was Kairi using her newfound memory powers to temporarily gain Sora's abilities. Isn't that why Namine has memory powers too? I always thought that was just Kairis thing haha
Yozora is possibly the Sora boss fight in KH3. Firstly, his name. Yozora is clearly meant to evoke Sora. Sora meaning "sky" and Yozora meaing "night sky".
Secondly, Yozora is probably a heart transferred character like Braig or Terranort. We learn from the nameless star that his heart has been replaced. When Sora calls him Yozora, he asks how he knows that, which is a normal think to ask if a stranger somehow knows your name, but later on he asks Sora how he knows that his name is specifically Yozora. Yozora also says, "this isn't what I really look like". So, what all this leads me to believe that Yozora is not the name of the body, but the name of the heart that replaced the original owner of the body. This would explain why Yozora asks why Sora knows the name of his heart when he is in another person's body and being in another's body means he doesn't look like what he really looks like.
Thirdly, what Yozora's original body looks like probably looks like Sora. In Toybox, Rex and Hamm recognize Sora as Yozora and call him that all through out. This is strange because they don't look alike and Donald even says so. So, why do Rex and Hamm think that Sora is Yozora? Yozora's original body must have looked like Sora and they would've seen it when they were playing Verum Rex.
Lastly, the reason why Yozora's original body looks like Sora and why he's so powerful is because his original body is possibly Sora himself. In Dream Drop Distance, Sora briefly falls to darkness. In doing so, he loses all of his powers and the power of waking, the powers of a master keyblade wielder. What I'm getting at is that all this that was lost became Yozora and somehow found itself into the body of the character that we meet in Remind. So, what's the evidence of this? Yozora is the most difficult boss fight in the entire series. Sora's master keyblade wielder abilities could give such challenge. When he steals the Sora's keyblade, regardless of which keyblade you're using, Yozora always uses the Ultima keyblade to attack. This further reflects his keyblade mastery as that's what the ultima keyblade represents. The final piece of evidence, Yozora has the power of waking. Yes that's right. Young Xehanort describes the power of waking as "the ability to traverse hearts to reach worlds". This is accurate to the first time that we see the power of waking get used when Riku uses it on Sora in Dream Drop Distance. Riku dives down to Sora's station of awakening (his heart) and then goes to destiny islands. Riku traversed a heart to reach a world. And Yozora does the same thing. He first points his crossbow at Sora, then Sora's station of awakening (his heart) appears from underneath, then Quadratum renders in around them. Yozora traversed a heart to reach a world. Yozora has the power of waking.
Yozora is the Sora boss fight in KH3 because Yozora wields all the power that Sora lost in Dream Drop Distance.
Very well put together. Apparently the algorithm favors you some since all I did was click one mod video and suddenly you're in my feed. But your video reminds me of when Everglow posted his thoughts and theory on Ansem's Guardian being Terra after DDD, a theory that went pretty under the radar over the years until KH3 flat out showed it as a fact. Granted, I'm sure some people talked about it but I rarely ever saw the community discuss it much despite it being a pretty obvious take to make. I for one definitely feel the MoM being Sora theory has a lot going for it and its recognition in the fandom goes back and forth every now and then. However, you made some very well thought out points with many references and lore facts to help assert the plausibility of Sora being the villain of the story. Add it with Yozora's mysterious dialogue towards Sora in Remind and you've got yourself a well oiled theory that's closer to truth than fiction based on evidence presented. While nothing is set in stone, I will be keeping an eye on this theory video as the series continues. I'll be back if the theory somehow becomes reality as you are definitely the only person I've seen make a fairly in depth video analysis on this topic even compared to the more prominent members of the KH theory community so its only right that you deserve a good chunk of credit if it turns out you predicted everything pretty accurately. Here's to hoping you're right on the money cuz we all know that if this becomes true it'll make for an incredible time
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
If Sora becomes a villain, it would be interesting if Sora somehow the power of friendship was used against the good guys. I'd also like for Sora to become a bad guy since nomura doesn't like Sora and could be interesting development for the DI trio (especially kairi since she needs the most character development out of everyone) since after kh1, it felt like it was just about Sora and Riku and how Riku got the most development out of the 3. She (and/or the player from KHUX) could become the next protagonist since Kairi is also about light.
Darkness want Sora as a Proxy. Mom has him as a Proxy, his X. Darkness want him, you can see this if you take a look at Anti- Black coat Nighmare. Looks like Dark Chirithy, a Darkness.
"The most desperate of all, trying to work a computer" That one made me laugh 😁
That actually makes a lot of sense that we could pass the exam but not Sora because Sora can't control his dark rage
I wonder if there's any way that Ava has a connection to Kairi. She may have to form her own "Dandelions" to take down Sora in the return to Kingdom Hearts. All I'm thinking about is how sweet it's going to be when Sora comes back, reveals how much he's gone through the sake of Kairi, only for her to reject him due to him no longer being the Sora she fell in love with. This, I can only imagine will lead us to a point where we play as a badass TRAINED Kairi and possibly the others in a series where we have to take down the boy we all fell in love with :C
"I wouldn't say it would be a stretch to say that Sora can possess people like Xehanort if he wanted to, and...well..."
*Melody*
Ooh I did not need to be reminded of that again.
Kinda off topic but anyway.
I have a feeling that in the Future, since Sora is walking powerhouse, he might soon be able to evolve his powers where he can both use Light and Darkness simutaneously thus making him a Gray warrior like superhuman similar to the Father of the Ones from the Clone Wars.
a point l wanted to add to YOUR point about Sora possessing Kairi in MoM. Remember what Xehanort said? "Ah, your voice can't reach us here. I know where you are.." if this was just a memory of Sora, his voice not reaching and cluing Xehanort into the REAL Soras' location wouldn't make much sense. Therefore, it stands to reason that IS the real Sora in Kairi( *lenny face* ) . Also, your earlier point, the ventus nightmare using Soras keyblade. If that was still Sora cause of his keyblade, then the kingdom key in MoM proves as well that ALSO is Sora.
I’ve never been a huge fan of the “Sora is the MoM” theory...until now I think. This was a pretty incredible video. Thank you.
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends. :)
It actually says a lot about Sora that, when confronted with stress/pressure and the emotion of despair his impulse is to lash out. Rage is Sora’s raw emotion when stripped of the things that bring him joy and happiness. It would be so interesting to flesh this side of him out and narratively have him explore why anger is the place he immediately goes to when he’s pushed so far emotionally.
You bring up a good point actually. Sora, for always being considered the nice, forgiving, happy-go-lucky kid, actually has quite a short temper and a tendency to lash out when he's upset. He is emotionally mature towards other people, but the way he behaves suggests that he doesn't understand his own feelings at all. We see him repress his negative emotions like sadness and try to put on a happy face for others. But when things overwhelm him he loses control and just tries to inflict pain, be it through his words or by attacking the person who upset him. He dances around his own feelings and doesn't seem to know how to set healthy boundaries.
What if the master of masters is the"lingering will of sora
Wow this is really well put together. I never really bought into the whole Sora is MOM but after this I'm wondering if its Sora's heart in the coat and his body is in the black box.
"I'll keep moving forward... Till I get to see my freedom..." -Sora
Wow !! What a great Analysis of Sora's development during the entire Serie !! And what a great Theory about the sequel !!! I really loved !! Wonderful Job !!
And I think we could make a link between the Sentences that Sora says in the Opening of KHIII :
"They can take Your World, They can take your Heart, Cut You loose from all you know, but If its your fate, then every step forward will be a step closer to home"
So all what he said in the opening was true for himself (During the serie, his world was taken (KHI), and also his heart (When he became a Heartless or also at the End of KH3D, and at the end of KHIII, he was Cut from all he know !)
Sora ironically is the only protagonist who didn't go back home at the end of KHIII. And maybe just like you said, he will never go back to home or at least not in a near future !
I like the way you say the word 'series'.
If Sora does become the antagonist of the series than that would mean that the true king Yozura 👑 will become the series protagonist! Just remember Nomura said he wants to take the series in a new direction going forward!
i am halfway through this video and the whole "sora can possess ppl similar to villains" makes me think: MoM isn't Sora, but rather MoM is the player
Always thought it was either the avatar of nomura or the kh team, or the players and the hopes of the fan base
Oh boy, i have a surprise for you
@@Suprazord i just found out the news...yeah
@@Suprazord what?
In a way, Dark Road illustrates how easy it is for a good person to fall to darkness.
And we learn that Xeharnort's descent into villainy was initially paved with good intentions. So they have been foreshadowing the potentiality of a fall.
And he was even reincarnated after making the ultimate sacrifice. Maybe MoM won't need to die, per se. But he could be working towards a Re: Birth , in a way
Starts good → reborn and walks the path of light → faces many trials that ultimately makes him embrace darkness
Not exactly a Nort copy but something similar. Far greater and far more deadly
Dark Road really opened a box of frightening possibilities
I'd like to add something to your theory:
My take on why Sora became the Master of Masters is that he, in his desperation, became deranged and wrote the book of prophecies after becoming accustomed to the powers of manipulating the connection between hearts in order to let his childhood or his past story play out as it was meant to.
The reason for that would be an even greater force or evil that would give Sora no other choice than to seal himself and others in a perpetual time loop in which different outcomes can occur.
For example: Will Sora be able to defeat Ansem Seeker of Darkness in KH1? Will Sora really find his way back to his memories in Chain of Memories? Will Sora and Riku be able to defeat Xemnas and return back to the Realm of Light? Will Riku complete his Mark of Mastery and save Sora? And lastly, will Sora be able to overcome Xehanort in the final battle in Scala ad Caelum?
These are, in my eyes, tests for his younger self to become the man he is as a Master of Masters. And even as the Master of Masters there is yet another Trial we know nothing about. What is he doing in this big city? And could this city just be a world that would later become "The World that never was" ?
Your theory on the bequeathment ceremony of the X-blade or No Name is what brought this up. So in a distant future there is a choice for Sora to make:
1.) Will Sora be consumed by darkness or his despair, summon No Name and become the Master of Masters and so beget the "Bad Ending" in above mentioned time loop.
2.) Will Sora remind himself of the light he's chasing all this time to save Kairi and stay true to himself a.k.a "Let your heart be your guiding key" and summon the X-Blade, the counterpart to Kindgom Hearts, and let the primordial light of fairytales help him achieve his goal and lastly return back to his friends and restore all worlds, thus ending the endless struggle between light and darkness.
Plot Twist: Jiminy is the Master of Masters
Okay, I believe you.
@@ShnobbsReal technically, Jimimy has every sora's journey in his diary (a book) so... I dont know I'm just letting my imagination fly XD
I think itd be great if sora fell so far that in his obsession to reunite with kairi and his friends he wound up becoming a twisted villain
Dang, most of the time when I hear of a evil sora it’s sora-nort, which I don’t really care for, but this video gives a believe able route for sora to become the villain
Soranort walked so MoM-Sora could run. I mean Soranort was a real possibility for 9 years up until it was sadly dropped in KH3. That would have made a hell of a game.
Really interesting video. I've yet to be convinced of any theory that Sora is the MoM, but Sora becoming a villain could be a very interesting plot arc in general.
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I love this part as it also plays the Part of Vanitas’s theme that resembles Sora’s while mentioning how Vanitas is an evil Sora.
"Sora" and "villain" together sounds so wrong to me
It would be devastating if this theory was true. Sora works so hard to be a force of good.
@@kennethkay7226
So did xehanort which makes this theory all more convincing
Xion’s armored form actually looks a lot like No Heart’s now that I think about it.
It's uncanny just how much KH content yt has throwing at me the past week. I hadn't so much as thought about KH in years. Even got me planning to play the series in release order
As a fellow game designer, sweet fucking analysis. Gameplay as metaphor, and, every action is narrative, are two of my 10 commandments of game design that i try to follow. You rock!
Very solid video essay!!
Definitely subscribing and binging the other essay's
Thanks for the dope video 👍🏿
Ngl what a beautiful and tragic transition the Hero that cared about anyone but himself and lost himself along the way
See i thought of this concept too ever since i was a kid and then nomura said that sora was his “perfect good litte boy” and he made other characters to avoid what it would be like to see a evil characters instead of fight his pure light attitude. And tbh i really hope he sticks with that mindset because if he chose to make sora finally become the villain of the story it would go against everything he wanted from the character
This is by far one of the most compelling KH theories I have come across in a while. Having to fight dark versions of Sora over the course of the different games has always been unsettling to me. Watching this definitely reminded me of the 'uneasy' feeling I felt playing ReMind and Melody of Memory when Sora took Kairi's place at the end. I brushed those feelings off, couldn't put words to why I felt so unsettled and this video explains why I felt that way.
Bravo to this. What a hugely missed opportunity if the future games aren't headed in this direction.
Maybe soras is the one who wrote the book of profecies, as a medium to keep his heart conected with his friends and the ones who have his heart conected or interacted.
Two main points:
1. Kairi is Square's "Disney Princess" which makes Sora her prince. They're set up to be paragons of virtue, so they would never become villains, though they might struggle with darkness at times.
2. Just as Xehanort wasn't actually there fighting Kairi, Sora wasn't either. It was Kairi's memory of Xehanort and Sora that showed up. Since Kairi feels she can never beat Xehanort, who is both a source of childhood and recent abuse, her memory of Xehanort is too strong for her to face, but her memory of Sora is strong enough to fight to save her. Memory Xehanort himself says it isn't really him, and all the information Kairi gets in Melody of Memories is just repressed information she already knew. So Sora's possession is more of a possessra than a possessza, not yet capable of possessing across realities.
I think we might see something more along the lines of a Ventus/Vanitas like split with Sora if anything, where the hurt becomes too much for him to face without his friends and he splits his heart in two, the light remaining Sora, and the Darkness becoming the Master of Masters, determined to return no matter the cost. Then the whole past, creating the Gazing eye and the book of prophecies, etc. When Dark-Sora "Reunites" with the guardians, that gives Light-Sora a path home.
I could be wrong. I most likely am. But I have a theory that Yozora is the light that was extracted from Noctis. While Noctis remains in darkness. For example. When Yozora said “this isn’t what I really look like”. He could be implying that he himself was split into two separate entities. Enter Noctis who is the embodiment of Yozora’s darkness. I like your theory, but I think it applies more so to Yozora instead of Sora.
I don't think it actually was Memory Sora though, considering he couldn't talk and Xehanort specifically says that he knows "where he is"
@@gatst7680 Again, he alluded to that place when Kairi was a child, she already knew the information, it was just repressed.
Sora does turn into a heartless, though. Also, Darkness has touched Sora through Ventus.
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But that doesn't explain him not talking...
Ngl, the emphasis on sora "never changing" is a little suspicious now (lines like "sora, don't ever change"or "sora never changes"). Like, sora has changed/grown quite a bit and the people around him don't seem to realize just how much. I doubt "dont change" would be emphasized so much if it wasn't important/meant to be broken imo. But this is a cool theory, it'll be fun to see what actually ends up happening either way!
Yeah. Kh3 especially( and 0.2) definitely put in way too much effort to showing people's opinions of Sora and how much pressure/criticism he is under. Everyone says what kind of person Sora is and yet we see, like in the case of this video and throughout KH3/ReMind/Melody of Memory that Sora has grown beyond that notion of who he is. And the fact is happens multiple times and isn't just one throwaway line suggests it's important later.
Suddenly the cutscene where the dude cheating in the game of chess (don't crucify me, I forgot everything rn) on the light side suddenly makes sense. Between Goofy's rediculous strength, Pixar characters fucking shit up, Donald's Zettaflare and Sora alone, the Darkness never stood a chance. They're playing the game with a handicap.
Wow...this just furthers my theory on Sora possibly being the Master of Masters..
I forgot about Xehanort performing the bequeathing ceremony on Sora at the end of Kingdom Hearts 3. Since the keyblade was passed down from MoM to Luxu in Union Cross, then Luxu to Xehanort, then Xehanort to Sora, it would make absolute sense if Sora eventually becomes aware he can summon No Name, then uses his new time travel ability to pass it down to Luxu and again, the cycle goes. Craziness!
I did hear a sort of "Mini-theory" from Bio-Roxas in one of his form breakdown videos, I think it was the one for Rage Form. Anyway. It revolves around Anti Form vs Rage Form.
If you look at how Anti Form and Rage Form work... For those unfamiliar, in KH2, there is a secret system known as the "Anti point" system. Basically, every time you use a drive form, the counter increases. Except for Final Form, which actually decreases the counter. The system is actually really complicated, so I'd recommend watching Bio-Roxas' breakdown video for Anti Form.
Anyway, as the counter increases, your chances for getting Anti Form the next time you use a drive form increases.
Then look at Rage Form. The situation command for Rage Form will only appear when Sora is at or below 25% health, which is when you hear the low health siren.
So, from that, you could say that Anti Form is Sora's punishment for wanting too much power, while Rage Form is Sora using the darkness as a last resort to stay alive.
Something I just realized. Looking at this, this also explains why Sora has a keyblade in Rage Form, but not Anti Form. It's because while in Anti Form, the keyblade leaves him due to the darkness and his lust for power, whereas in Rage Form, Sora is trying to protect himself. He's using the darkness because he has to. That's why he still has a keyblade in Rage Form, but not Anti Form.
This was a truly fantastic, well thought out video. Great work.
Honestly, I really hope this isn't the ending. It definitely makes so much sense, but I'm pretty sure I would actually cry if Sora became the MoM/ultimate villain. Just thinking about it is making my heart hurt right now, so I'm going to just go read some happy fanfics and try not to think about it. Great video, it just made me sad.
The theory that sora is the master of masters is more likely. One of soras catchphrases is "let your heart be your guiding key" which is something the master of masters has said
But he kinda got that from yen sid apparently, granted we didn’t actually see him speak those words until goofy had brought this up, and even then Sora still hasn’t said it that many times
Conclusion: Goofy is the MoM
Nah, he's the villain. Aliester Crowley in disguise.
Such an amazing video I enjoyed it so much I didn’t want it to end even after 55 minutes Great work!
In kh character files, kairi's story ends with her telling sora to not give up and not to disappear. She also questions her ability to protect him. I could see them going into a direction with a final showdown between Kairi and Sora especially if Sora falls too far
If the MoM goes back in time the Age of Fairytales, and Sora is his "younger self," what if the Kingdom Hearts timeline/cluster we play thru is the Sora of Masters attempting to "right" the timeline from his own failure. For all we know, the outcome we saw in KH3 was the best case scenario that the MoM saw and was able to guide the multiverse to.
Only to accidentally recreate a far more dangerous version of himself...
Imagine the layers of betrayal Sora would feel. All of his friends suffering, all of their pain, was his fault
Rather than ending the cycle, he ends up kick-starting an even worse case out of his best case
Probably not what's going to happen. There are so many good ideas in this thread (video comment sections) that, if we're all wrong / way off, someone should hijack the ideas and make their own game with it lol
It's a goddamn Greek Tragedy
Personally, I think MoM may just be the embodiment of Light. He wants to forgo realities and set up warriors to take down Darkness, ones who maybe aren't set to perish since the don't live in a world of light and darkness.
He could've made the trials Yozora went through and told him to "Save" Sora (Subdue and possibly ally him)
Why would MoM want this? I think he wants to tip the balance of Light and Darkness itself.
Except the MoM has also made a point to tell the guardians that the keyblades were not meant to fight the darkness.
after the ux finale this video is big. also wanted to say:
awesome in my world too. lol
Also the image of Sora on the cover for ReMind looks like an evil sora?
"Hurt."
The worst term used in KH history.
It's so awkward, just use pain. English translators be dumb.
Another thing: Roxas' hurt isn't the first time Sora felt 'hurt'. Though it is the first time for Data Sora to feel 'hurt.
Just a minor correction.
"Kairi's inside me?"
No Sora, you're inside Kairi!
Sora = MoM
I have no doubt about that.
Sora or Demyx, but pretty sure it's Sora. Or rather, future Sora.
Been thinking that ever since KH1 with the Shadow Sora fight. That he could end up being the big ultimate bad
Demyx. Totally Demyx.
Ok, I'm 10 minutes into the video and I can tell it's already amazing, thank you! I've been a fan of Kingdom Hearts for over 16 years and the idea of Sora being the final FINAL boss or evil in the game both absolutely baffles and amazes me, I've also noticed how many times that was hinted in the games, it would be interesting to see in the end.
Great video! I don't share your view of all of this, but I think what you did here is awesome! Keep up the great job.
I felt it was more foreshadowing Riku becoming a villain.
Xehanort and Riku have almost the same beginning
Riku was a pseudo-villain/antagonist before in KH1-KH2 (as Repliku and as the Cloaked Figure/Ansem). Making him the villain would destroy his entire 20 year old arc of overcoming his darkness.
Both riku and xehanort were just pawns
Imagine we were wrong about the reason behind the looks of Vanitas, and that’s just his own appearance since is dark sora at some point in time, thus he looks like that on BBS “older” than the “real” Sora
Wow you really opened my eyes up to what happened in Re:MIND
I agree and have noticed the Sora as a boss themes throughout the games, it feels like a "Shadow Link" video game trope, but with plot implications. However, I'm not too sure about tying it in together with the MoM being Sora.
The director did say he was Xeonort at one point and he thoroughly enjoyed finding different ways to try to break Sora so what if he does ultimately break Sora
I like that you don’t hate DDD. It’s so played out to “hate DDD” and talk about how confusing it is. It never felt that way to me. Feels pretty consistent with the story, and, if we’re fair, the story got confusing and a bit ad hoc with CoM.
This theory is super interesting. I’ve considered this previously as either foreshadowing or perhaps as a way to reinforce what darkness is and the inevitability of it. I figured for a while it was a way to connect to what Sora said to Xehanort at the end of KH3 about who gave him the authority to make the decision to remake the world (something along those lines). We can’t have light without a counterpart, yin without the yang, basically.
This video single-handedly made me believe this theory. It also made me want to actually play every single KH game when I’ve only beaten the numbered games so far. You’ve kick-started my love for the series again and made me remember just how dark it can really be. Thank you! 💗✨
Same. KH stuff has been popping up lately. I own a lot of the games but haven't played them myself. Now I want to do a playthrough of the series in release order lol
Now, let me make one thing clear, these are only two incompletes I see in your theory however, the theory as a whole, I think is actually fairly solid. Sora COULD become a Vilnian in the true "endgame"
Now, let me fire a different theory your way, one that I think is actually poetically-terrifying. How could Sora become a villain? First, what do we know about Sora?
He wants to save EVERYONE that is his very being, he believes everyone deserves to be rescued, in fact, I think in the end, he was even satisfied that it seemed like Xhenort was "freed"
This is the very thing that makes Sora, Sora, it leads into his connections with people, his drive, and yes even his desperation. It is his biggest strength. But, as often is the case, Strength and Weakness are two sides of the same coin. This, like your theory goes with the idea that Sora is in fact the Master of Masters.
Sora's way at looking at things is infectious, most of his friends want to be like him, they wish they had his strength, especially Riku. Now, imagine this scenario:
With the Finale of Union Cross now behind us, we now have more info including the fact that he apparently raised his "apprentices" to trap the seven true Darkness's but why did he do this?
Because, originally there were no fortellers and therefore the only way to do this was for the original 7 lights to be the sacrifices.
BUT wait! Sora was one of the original 7 wasn't he? Honestly, it would not surprise me if one of his friends were to plot to take his place, perhaps Namine. With that done Sora has no choice but do defeat his friends in order to stop the true evil. This push drives Sora past the brink going past mad and actually becoming "sane" collected, and sneaky. This time however he is now a sociopath. His only concern, saving his friends, and yet, there's still a nagging because he does also say that he has a plan to "save them" One might think that refers to the plan of the lifeboats back in the time of fairytailes. But what if that's not the plan he was referring to? That leads me to remind you of an old rule of time
Not all events can be avoided especially if the better good is at stake.
The endgame has begun, the final battle and the final Keyblade War: The Masters plan supposedly is to trap the Real Darkness's in the Foretellers even if Master Sora would truly allow that, the Sora we know WOULD NOT. The deed is about to be done and the Foretellers have given into their fates, but the Guardians refuse and once again are willing to become Martyrs, at this point however Sora has already lost too much and will not allow it, thinking that his light is strong enough he alone absorbs the 13 true Darkness's saving his friends and the foretellers but, we are talking about PURE DARKNESS here, and as a full cycle Master Sora realizes all he has done is traded one madness for another at this point one of two things happens.
1. Master Sora joins us but we still have to fight and possibly destroy the Sora we grew up with
2. The loss of his young self, the idea that nothing he could do would truly make everything okay, drives him down to the True Darkness and in a final clash we have to fight both Sora's.
I've watched this video twice so far and it is just so amazing, Great work!
You know, once you started going into the Master of Masters, I was thinking, "Yo, wouldn't it be wild if she said that Sora was the Master?" And then I started thinking about it... and then _you started talking about it..._
Rather than literally being the MoM I think they parallel each other in interesting ways. Sora seems to be an abnormality compared to everyone else specifically because of how powerful he is. It's glossed over a lot but it truly is strange that Sora has a keyblade at all when it's repeatedly mentioned that he doesn't have the aptitude for it (even post Ventus restoration).
I think the truly horrifying part of him going evil is that every instance of power we know directly comes from Sora seems to be an endless darkness. While his (friends) are his light, Sora’s potential from the very first game seems to be distinctly themed towards darkness.
And if I want to enter crackpot theory range if anything it seems like the key blades keep him in check more than anything. As an aside in KH1 we don't see Sora’s strength represented as anything “good”. The sword, staff, and shield have fairly ominous descriptions for the player--especially the sword which is arguably what he canonically chose. Almost every clue points to his strength being great and terrible.
Kingdom key also left Sora for Riku, a friend blatantly backstabbed his friend, merely for filling some right merits. I think those blades themselves aren't as goody even on light-side. Wouldn't be surprised if keyblades are revealed to be some of their own entities with questionable work ethics.
@@Yurikon3 The MoM did tell the guardians that the keyblades are not meant to fight the darkness. He never specified what they were for in that film because Ira determined that they had to fight and prevent the darkness and the MoM ultimately said he could do what he wants and to try.
@@Dragon_Lair makes sense. Im not that versed into the lore, but what I have understood, keyblades are more ambivalent things.
Would not be surprised if they are later revealed to some semi-sentinent entities.
Wow! Ok, so I have a few questions:
1. Why DID Ventus’s Nightmare Armor thing attack Riku, even though Ventus’s heart didn’t recognize him?
2. How can Master Xehanort turn Sora into a villain? I mean, hello! He’s gone!
3. Does Ventus have a Lingering Will when he’s protecting Sora? Or...you know, like in the same way as Terra?