I’ve never heard of these terms , however among the political spectrum there’s always some sort of discourse , the same thing that happened to black people all those years ago is happening now to the Asian community. Given the circumstances at hand . I get it
Asians as a group and Blacks as a group have similar challenges, but are polar opposite with regard to educational and economic achievements. The challenge for the former is they don't need redistribution of assets for asset creation, while the latter actively supports political policies that favor asset redistribution for asset creation. Asian men's average weekly earnings are higher than White men, while being a minority with regard to numbers. This is a challenge because every other minority punches below their weight in earnings and thus will naturally have conflicts of interest on public policy.
Don't agree with everything he said or did but mad, mad respect for Lee Kuan Yew, the founder of Singapore, who was consulted and listened to by both the United States and China, boy do we need someone like that right now.
Here in Northern Virginia, we have a magnet school called the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology ("TJ" for short). Admissions used to be based on merit in which only the cream of the crop middle-school students were accepted (after taking a rigorous entrance exam). Because of Asian families relentless focus on hard work and education, Asian students (Chinese, Korean, Indian, Filipino) represented the majority of TJ's student population. The Fairfax County School Board, which was overtaken by liberal Democrats, changed the admissions policy so as to focus less on merit on more on equal "representation" (i.e. quotas for other racial minorities). This change resulted in a dramatic decline in TJ's Asian student population. Many high-achieving Asian kids who would have been accepted in TJ a few years ago were rejected. This is blatant racial discrimination against high-achieving Asian children implemented by liberal Democrats! The Asian and Indian American community in this area have woken up to the fact that liberals don't represent their interests; many of them worked to elect Republican Glenn Youngkin, who supports merit and equality of opportunity in education, to Virginia's Governorship. It's time for Asian-Americans across America to get involved in politics and support candidates and parties that protect their interests.
We had the same thing happen with an elite high school in SF. Lowell High School was one of the top public high schools in the Bay Area until liberals were complaining about racial equality.
This same scenario happened in San Francisco for Lowell high school. Voters here in sf recall three school board as well. I guess people around the country are waking up to some of these bs liberal democratic mindset…
Same thing in NYC and the specialized magnet high schools which are majority Asian. I attended Bronx Science. Our previous mayor attempted to abolish the entrance exam in favor of increasing "diversity". Interesting to see similarities across the country.
I've had plenty of friends from TJ, and while the change does initially seem kind of weird, there's also harsh realities about how people prep for it. My friends went to TJ prep for well over six years and never got in. I've had friends who had the talent or intellect for it but didn't have the means to prep for it. I've watched people pour thousands of dollars into getting into this school, and that's not something to dismiss. It's not just merit. Money got these kids places. Generational wealth got these kids places. It's important for kids who didn't have these opportunities -- because they are out there even though FCPS Asians might tend to stay in their own bubbles -- to at least get a foot in to begin the journey of upward mobility. The high concentration of Asian Americans at TJ, while maybe representative of elements of merit, is also representative of that wealth that they accumulated and invested into their children. It's not racial discrimination. It's giving people whose families have less better futures. It's a relatively new policy so I expect that FCPS/TJ will need some years to adjust and improve the system. I'm also coming from a place where my dad being the first in his family born in America with parents who survived the Khmer Rouge didn't have much. His and my mom's lives were very different. Both sides had to fight and climb to have better lives, but my Cambodian family is fighting with trauma that my Filipino family has never experienced. My father is ridiculously intelligent, but he wouldn't have gotten into TJ when he moved to NOVA from Maryland because the programs at his schools were not as advanced, and his family didn't have the means to get him daily after school tutoring. There are Asians who struggle, too. Your Asian American experience is not totally representative either.
I live in EU but I do agree a lot on this triangle. I relate myself to the 2nd one but most Asians i met in Europe are indeed boba liberals. We have less horrible asian hate here (and no guns). I think thats why you don't see many azn nationalists here in Europe.
Well I’ll be honest I’m both parts and Now in recent events i feel like right leaning intersectionist I know because my moms family (Laos) was poor and we lived in the ghetto We had gang bangers in the family Gamblers Drug dopes 😔 The environment was volatile Arguments over trivial things And politically they get their news from radical black news idk how or why they identify with them with unrelenting hate for whites But more importantly was independence Everyone did what they wanted They aren’t bad people I guess I never forget my background and what they did to provide what they could and they made me happy with what we had and I learned you gotta look adversity in the face and stomp on it’s toes and sucker punch it On the other hand my Cambodian “conservative” family Even though They believe in democrats politics like trump being racist Very family oriented Structured Sense of responsibility Mature Supportive All important things went through the elders (grandma and grandpa) Also argued about trivial things Not as confrontational but will not back down Volatile while drinking Almost… controlling… when there’s discourse What I learned From my family is to speak up for yourself… learn to piece your words together to convey your feelings (once you hit 18 otherwise you will be beaten) You start bottling up these emotions and it’s not good for you You feel secluded become depressed Stop taking care of yourself or harm/starve / become violent Most important Is Put your mental health first Being in both environments you witness some things that make you depressed later on So talk about it Talk to someone if you can Don’t rely on sex as a comfort as you’ll slip Into a deeper hole I love my families But it really is a double edged sword
You can have an intersectional understanding of reality, and still have personal behavior that's "conservative". I basically do. Partly by choice, partly by circumstances. The flipside is you can have a right wing individualist and militaristic understanding (that the world is selfish and violent), and have personal behavior that's "liberal" (getting loaded, etc.)
I hear yall. I do. And neither side of the aisle is doing things completely right. I think that maintaining an individualist stance though doesn't solve issues. There seems to be a tendency within the Asian American community to be very supportive of your own immediate community, but everything outside of that isn't really your problem. Approaching it that way feels like putting band aids on a wound. It's not solving the root cause or preventing that wound from occurring. Of course treating the damage is important but preventative care is even more so. The world isn't set. We as people created the country and systems we live in, and we can change it -- not just for ourselves, but to make sure our neighbors, friends, people in nearby cities or states are doing well because we're all affecting another whether directly or indirectly. As a country, a community, it's imperative to listen to and work towards solving everyone's issues, otherwise we get an infection and we might have to amputate a limb. An avoidable situation had we put forth the effort before it came to the worst. As individualistic as America is and founded as, everyone can only do so much in isolation.
That's exactly what fighting fire with fire is. I think 2A AA have a lot of correct ideas. Being prepared, being aware, are important. It's also important to know the neighborhood, and be a presence. It's also important to help the community become safer, together. Asians need to improve our image regarding making a community response to racism, so we don't get messed with.
@@johnkawakami8395 Thank you for your explanation. However, the phrase "fighting fire with fire" leaves open the possibility that you can attack someone first before they attack you. Or that you can plan and carry out revenge after you were victimized. Both of these actions are illegal for 2A advocates. You can only use deadly force in self-defense when there is imminent death or great bodily harm, you cannot use deadly force pre-emptively or in a planned way after the fact. Self-defense is much simpler, all human beings have the natural right to self-defense whether they like water, wind, fire, or wood. =)
Now that you mention it, almost none of the Republican party’s actions in the past decade could be described as bringing stability. I never stopped to think about it from that angle before your comment.
I’m glad to see the Asian community organizing. I’m a child of the 60’s and the world needed to hear both MLK’s words and Malcom’s words. One was nonviolent and the other decided it was time to stop taking the status quo’s crap violently if needed. Unfortunately both were killed along with JFK and Bobby. Don’t know what to say except the days ahead are going to be some serious times. Go for it.
First time heard "Boba liberal" term . please don't give BOBA bad rep. Because I'm hard core conservative who likes drink Boba down here in the South( H-town). 😛
@ForeverDreamWithinADream Considering ‘politics’ is nothing more than opinion made into official policy? No. It’s a luxury (or ignorance) to think things are exempt from politics. Hell, even the types of toys babies can play with (or if they should be allowed toys at all) is caught up in this.
The issue I have with boba liberals is the same I have with latte liberals - they vote for corporate Democrats, parrot woke talking points, but don't actually do anything substantive to fight back, nor do they believe in fundamentally change the system that is at the root of all oppression, including Asian oppression. The AZN Nationalists are at least thinking more about these issues, but they fall into similar problems as the Black Nationalists/Separatists of the 60s - by isolating themselves against all other groups, they create no way to build a broader movement that can change fundamental problems which affect Asians as well as other people. Plus, I think those who fall into that category sometimes begin demonizing other marginalized groups of people. I think having an outlook that views the system itself as the underlying problem, and sees unity across different Asians/Asian-Americans (in the case of the US/Canada), but also across different groups of oppressed and exploited people, is the only way to actually fundamentally change the system that is negatively affecting Asians, resulting in Anti-Asian hate, etc. We might associate the Black Panthers with the "AZN Nationalist" group, but we have to remember Fred Hampton argued for solidarity across different races, built the rainbow coalition, and saw class as the underlying division in society that fueled racism.
I don't even know what I am, I guess I am more AZN nationalist more than anything because of how involved I am with 2A, but I feel like I am way more right-wing the most of the AZN nationalist types.
Most woke these days is posturing. Most people don't believe in what they are reposting and saying... it's to fit in and go with the flow because that's how people listen to you these days.
Correct. In America, any group of citizens can gather and have a wealth sharing program among themselves if they want to practice socialism so badly. It would be completely legal to do it voluntarily. Yet it wouldn't work unless everyone is forced into their economic system. So these woke liberals don't actually care about socialism they just want other people's stuff.
Not us Generation X Asians. We grew up defending our People and Neighborhoods from Racist Democrat Voters who used to attack us Minorities in the streets so frequently, many of us formed "Protection Groups" to protect against attacks. Many of those became Entities such as MS13, TRG, Armenian Power, Black Dragon, etc, etc. The worst offenders being Mexican Sureño Gangs (Not All Were Racist) and Neo Nazi Types (They claimed Left in those days before Obama). This was when most all of us were Traditionally on The Right. Many of us having Escaped Communism and welcomed by The Republican Party who also gave Amnesty to about 2.4 Million Illegal Aliens and STILL got wrongly Labeled as "Racists" around the time when Pete Wilson Left Office as Governor of CA. We also had to score significantly higher than our Counterparts to get into the same choice colleges because of Racist Affirmative Action. And now, Our Children have to go through the same BS and there are also Commercials telling anyone who votes against Racist Affirmative Actions is a "Racist". And now The Left is trying to tell us that we are NOT Minorities and are now "adjacent Whites" because traditionally we earn too much annually as a whole. And The Left is now calling us some "AAPI" BS Pronoun. We will never support: 1. Communism 2. Grooming Our Children to be Gay/ Trans 3. Pedophilia 4. Taking Away The Patriarchy In Our Homes 5. Taking Away Our Religions 6. Taking Away Our 2nd Amendment 7. Affirmative Action 8. Having Pronouns 9. Putting Any Race Above Our Own 10. Those Attacking Our People (We actively went out and searched for those attacking us in My Youth. We didn't just virtue signal taking pics while walking through Chinatown) 11. Conforming 12. Anyone Trying to Tell Us We Are Not Minorities 13. Forcing Us to Think & Vote a Certain Way 14. CRT 15. Catering to Any Other Race The Left has MADE everything political for many of us.
@@josephgee2515 Becasue I think democrats are usualy the first one to call out social issues between races. their demographics of the exteme ones on the democrats side tend to be SJWs and Communists who happened to have the lerger voices in todays political climate. I agree with some of your points since my husband is japanese. He hates affirmative actions as well.
Time for an Asian Supreme Court justice who is moderately conservative. I don’t agree that bobs liberals care about Asian representation but more about BLM
The number of moderate and conservative asians in America will be bigger than the media lead the public to believe. Boba asians are the loudest and doesn't tolerate asians that don't share their values and beliefs. So majority of asians will remain quiet.
It's the first time I've heard of the intersectional Asians category. I think they're often lumped in with Boba Liberals, who the AZNs tend to dislike lol. A lot of the less political Asians tend to lean conservative in the US because it's closest to the stereotype traditional culture. Anything remotely liberal tends to fight against tradition, so there's a big disconnect between political Asian-Americans vs the immigrant Asians. Asian-Americans also need to realize that they are not the voice for immigrants or Asians in the motherland, and try to take their cultural differences into consideration instead of trying to speak for/as them when they're only ethnically Asian.
Honestly, whoosh. The internet terminology tho. How I tried to narrow and comprehend that was so were just classified differently by our income. And I do believe that over all, since we're the small percentage, not many of us want to be uh too radical anything. I get that everything has a trickle down effect but I am pretty much building from scratch too. I didn't think of myself as a far too anything but I guess I am blue collar. Conservative :/? Idk but my "boba" of an Asian circle... is even smaller here... By Boba, I just meant bubble. Bc im trying to get Asian i.net cool points 🤓.
I think they just made up the term "intersectionals", but I'm ok with it. I'm one. Yeah, the nationalists call us (intersectionals) "boba liberals" and also think we are "liberals", but most of us think "liberal" is a slur that refers to Democrats who support capitalism (which is most Democrats). I think the rest of the take is pretty correct... except, things do change after the 2nd generation. I'm relatively more traditional in some ways than conservative nationalists, simply because I have an immigrant mother in a community that's well into the 4th and 5th generation. I'm also anti-nationalistic, because my two national identities are these violent, imperialist countries, and it took me a long time to see the value of nationalism.
I would be a mix of all 3 but more combined interesectional and AZN since I started learning about Asian racism on aznidentity and also learnt about Chinese studies during University
I perceive especially with East Asians especially Chinese (outside China or left China 1980's and earlier), Taiwanese, and Japanese to be prone to boba liberalism by default. Koreans seem to have a good mix all around. Vietnamese seem to be more conservative but I know exceptions to that. Filipinos can go either way.
i have never heard of intersectional asians or encounter them in my life. I was in democratic party in my young ages until i became conservative. I didn't attend college but i graduated high school.
If someone calls themselves an activist, that's usually a red flag, especially if they're in a privileged position where the issues they are advocating for don't directly affect them. The gender and ethnic studies types normally don't have to worry about making ends meet or getting physically assaulted on the street because they are protected by their elitist bubble, away from the harsh realities of life where they can ponder about these hypothetical theories.
Lol I guess I'm a cross between intersectional asian and boba liberal since I work in the corporate sector but also support social democracy/ left-wing populism.
It's actually not that rare for siblings to be nothing alike. Kids are breaking away from their parent's beliefs more than ever. Sometimes it's for the better.
Why does the term Boba liberal feel like marginalization by the troll/racist conservatives? Similar to the term liberal snowflake? To be honest, all the terms sound like new stereotypes. Where does a gun owning, idealistic socialist but mostly liberal capitalistic traditional Asian belong?
Get into guns because it’s a fun hobby similar to people shooting bows and arrows. It’s just nice that you can also use it to protect the things you love.
I understand that problems make people come up with different ideas on how to solve them and that ends up creating a big divide between what's left and what's right or what's red and what's blue, a more masculine or feminine approach to things. But I believe that going with just one option fully is not going to help anyone, any extreme ends up being a bad decision in the end, but it's okay because thanks to trying the extremes we can get near the center like a pendulum. What I see too much at this time is this great divide between both sides when we're all in the same boat, yes, everyone has their own opinion and it leans more towards one of both extremes, but please guys always remember we're part of the same, don't get too distracted by politics just as long as it's helping us unite more. I was born in Spain and here after the civil war no one has really recovered from it. It's gone because the fascists won thanks to Hitler and others, the dictator that ruled died and now we're all against each other again, nothing has really changed in the end, it's turning into a blind fight between parties forcing you to vote for one of them to not give power to the other party which honestly sounds to me like football or any form of competition, this has become a really sticky topic to talk about here because the deaths and pain from the war has never went away, no one apologized for it or tried to make things better. Now we have extreme left, extreme right and "middles" that are just disguised right parties. No one is trying to change this divide, if one is satisfied the other isn't, and no one ends up satisfied because it always fails us so they try voting the next one hoping something will change when it's the same constant approach with different trends and topics to talk about. I dated a fascist guy once, I had no idea at the time and I never imagined it would happen, especially because I'm brown-ish, but I realized he wasn't a bad person or a hopeless cause, we just have different pasts and ideals and I'm not going to hate him because of that, no one knows what the right answer is but what's important is to care for each other even if we don't think alike, we belong to the same place and before politics we came from the same origin, we actually had a lot of things in common. My family would've never accepted that though because our ancestors were murdered by fascism and that's no joke. But anyway, if we want to reach a conclusion where everyone wins, everyone needs to let each other exist as they are, as long as you're not creating fear for ill motives dividing each other more. Maybe we just need to go back to the structure that we've created and build it a bit differently getting rid of the parts that don't serve us like, first of all, fear propaganda or anything fear based
For anyone interested in how it ended up like this, it was actually a pretty common issue everywhere. To summarize, Spain was still feudal so most of the working population was illiterate and working in fields with little to no rights while the church and military lived rent free and with plenty of political power, sometimes even more than the king. The thing is leftist republicans and socialists got elected, which created riots against the king so he fled the country, Spain became a Republic, but for a really short time. They tried to change norms so that the working class could go to public school, farmers could have more rights and to separate the State from the church and military. So the church started fear propaganda against them, with a bit of time they became two really distinct and opposite parties with totally opposite ideologies influencing the population to support one against the other. People revolted from anarchists to nationalists to divided republicans, it was a mess. They started murdering each other's leaders and administrators so in the end, the Nationalist party started a coup d'etat starting the civil war. On one side there were nationalists that supported the church and military and everything traditional, lead by Franco and backed by other fascists like Hitler and Mussolini. On the other there were republicans which were mostly based by communism and socialism backed by the Soviet Union. They fought each other leading to 500,000 deaths aprox also thanks to Nazis helping the Nationalists by bombing Guernica and other cities. It ended by Franco winning the war which lead to a dictatorship until he died. During that dictatorship a lot more people died unnecessarily due to more strict rules, forcing Catholicism and Nationalism on everyone until the mid 70s. To this day there are still tons of bodies buried around Spain not being returned to their families or respected in any way while Franco is still buried under a big ass pantheon. Politics have changed our image a lot but no one got over the war, it's still not talked about enough and I fear history will repeat itself if we still continue with this "them vs us" mentality
I'm an intersectional. I call myself a boba liberal to annoy conservatives, but don't fit that stereotype the bros present, at all. I almost completely fit the stereotype the bros make about intersectionals. Also, some of the intersectionals are leftist and nationalist. Maybe internationalist would be more correct - they are into their specific ethnicity, and want to actively unite with all ethnicities and oppressed communities to overthrow capitalism, so a genuine internationalism can flourish. They don't trust white people or white society and politics. They want to preserve Asian ethnic communities as spaces where the different groups can get along.
I encourage folks here (esp Chinese Americans) to check out / read up on these fine folks on China-US relation and (world) geopolitics: Vijay Prashad Kishore Mahbubani Michael Hudson Pepe Escobar
remember when u guys dedicated a video against muslim hate? and donated the proceeds of the vid to help muslims, have those muslims or any return the favor?
I think they each deal with one aspect of life as an aisan. The AZN Nationalist side deals with the consequences of the past. The boba liberal side keeps our day to day together to make a living. And the Intersectionality Asian side looks to the future on where we should go.
I can't help but laugh at these terms 😂 boba liberals basically are castrated anime consumers, intersectional Asians can be hippie woke writers, and i could see AZN nationalists as jungle fighters
Me: none of the above lol I empathize abit with all three listed tho. Not upper middle class, not (traditionally) into academia, not quite pro guns/violence type...
AZNs may be more militant but many of them still hesitate to carry guns. In reality, most of them advocate going to the gym or learning a martial art, and maybe carry a knife.
"sweet but lacking in content", I think people who ascribe to this definition are overthinking it. I love this term because the picture of a boba liberal tweeting about the supposed "anti-blackness" of the asian community while drinking boba tea in a working class boba restaurant is peak bullshit and tone-deafness lol
Most of my peers are into that too. I feel like the world has gone insane. People are literally believing some crazy asss ideologies that were stemed from cultural marxism. Crazy americans lmao
Love your vids, u guys are hella underrated . Just trying to help, i notice theres a lot of topics (in other podcasts too) that u guys kind of talk around and not directly explain what you really mean, such as blm comparisons to asians. Like i get how it can appeal to a larger audience but imo it kind of comes across as being scared and might be deterring repeat views. I think if you guys were just more open and discussed controversial topics your podcasts woud do better. I like watching SNEAKO for example, i dont agree with many things he says but i appreciate how actually believes what he says and isnt concerned with getting attacked which makes ppl keep watching. These are great topics, w a lot of potential audience but if you made more real honedt points which might not be super pc it would do better for sure and your real fans would come back more often.
I'll admit right up front, that I'm not crazy about being classified, you mention that alot of Asian ideas towards politics comes from their parents and family, which could be true, but you left out geography. I think where you were raised plays an important part in your political ideas. Those Asians who grew up poor, in large cities are most likely American born but ethnically Asian, and don't have the luxury of being called one of those terms. They're fighting hard just to survive. I see this in my practice on an almost daily basis. I have more Asian patients under the poverty level, than any other race.Who when asked say they're more likely to vote for a democratic than a republican. Personally I think that unless you're rich or wealthy to vote republican is undermining your chances at success. Republicans only care about their own kind and let's face it Asian's are really outnumbered by other races even in their own communities politically. Nothing will change until this changes starting at the local level. I say this as a Canadian Inuit/Eskimo married to a fourth generation American of Chinese ethnicity, who saw himself as an American first Chinese secondly.
Straight up. They just added Mandarin to the audio announcements at the local public hospital in Los Angeles. (That's where low income people go to get healthcare here.) It's not just locally born Asians who are poor, but immigrants. The hospital is next to a neighborhood that's 25% Asian, but most people think it's only Latinos living there.
The most important message is VOTE!! Show the polls that you count and you will be seen. I live in the same neighborhood has the Fung Bros and the city under DiBlasio added homeless shelters(6 w/2 more planned), methadone clinics (6) and a new prison(only one in Manhattan). DiBlasio did this and he was liberal (I guess Asians don’t count as POC). We fought off 2 more shelters this past month by rallying. (Thanks, Mayor Adams for listening) There are neighborhoods with 0 homeless shelters in NYC. They dump on Chinatown because we don’t vote!! Protect your family, elders and children by Voting.
This is quite a generalization :) but I guess I have seen people that loosely fall in each of the categories you have generalized here ... where do you think you guys fall under the categories you defined?
my definition is an Asian American who is 'woke' and parrots woke ideology, which often comes from elite college educated whites. Boba Liberals will attack other Asians who are not woke or just don't follow the AAPI "mainstream media narrative" but they themselves aren't doing much to improve things other than virtue signaling BS. To make it simple: Do you know anyone who is "woke' and self-rightous and full of shit? Pretty much the same thing.
I heard the term on IG, but then got pointed to that subreddit. Yeah, it's pretty bad... but at least it has some diversity of opinion. I found other Asian subreddits that are worse.
They’re not saying all Asian men that want to defend the Asian community have toxic masculinity, but there is a possibility that some may grow to be toxic. There’s nothing wrong with being masculine. It becomes a problem when someone puts down another man for being “feminine” or putting down feminine traits. Like if they were to say “women can’t defend the Asian community because they’re helpless and weak” things like that fuel the stereotypes of Asian women being submissive. I do understand your frustration when hearing “toxic masculinity” because there is a lot of misinformation about it and people making assumptions that toxic masculinity means all kinds of masculinity is bad when it’s not.
@@dotdot550 I understand your point, but I would recommend Asias be cautious about using mainstream buzzwords that are readily applied to circumstances that don't often represent their needs. You wouldn't make money selling ice cream in Greenland because it's already cold there
I think they're referring to the incel/MRAsian movement within the AZN Nationalist group who hate white men ("pinkoid/pinkcel") and Asian women ("Lu") and see white women as conquests, probably too scared to address that part lol. They tend to come out and harass/threaten Asian women as well as men ("Chan") who they consider "Boba liberals" (= any Asians who disagree with them or who they consider "feminist") online. I agree with some of their points like racist media representation and stereotypes of Asian men, but the rampant racism and misogyny is very concerning imo.
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I’ve never heard of these terms , however among the political spectrum there’s always some sort of discourse , the same thing that happened to black people all those years ago is happening now to the Asian community. Given the circumstances at hand . I get it
Asians as a group and Blacks as a group have similar challenges, but are polar opposite with regard to educational and economic achievements. The challenge for the former is they don't need redistribution of assets for asset creation, while the latter actively supports political policies that favor asset redistribution for asset creation. Asian men's average weekly earnings are higher than White men, while being a minority with regard to numbers. This is a challenge because every other minority punches below their weight in earnings and thus will naturally have conflicts of interest on public policy.
Don't agree with everything he said or did but mad, mad respect for Lee Kuan Yew, the founder of Singapore, who was consulted and listened to by both the United States and China, boy do we need someone like that right now.
The way that it’s portrayed… the “Boba Liberal” is viewed as the Asian version of the “Latte Liberal.”
also a little like an older term "limousine liberal"
Or a white girl with an Asian fixation.
Or more like SJWs
Here in Northern Virginia, we have a magnet school called the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology ("TJ" for short). Admissions used to be based on merit in which only the cream of the crop middle-school students were accepted (after taking a rigorous entrance exam). Because of Asian families relentless focus on hard work and education, Asian students (Chinese, Korean, Indian, Filipino) represented the majority of TJ's student population. The Fairfax County School Board, which was overtaken by liberal Democrats, changed the admissions policy so as to focus less on merit on more on equal "representation" (i.e. quotas for other racial minorities). This change resulted in a dramatic decline in TJ's Asian student population. Many high-achieving Asian kids who would have been accepted in TJ a few years ago were rejected. This is blatant racial discrimination against high-achieving Asian children implemented by liberal Democrats! The Asian and Indian American community in this area have woken up to the fact that liberals don't represent their interests; many of them worked to elect Republican Glenn Youngkin, who supports merit and equality of opportunity in education, to Virginia's Governorship. It's time for Asian-Americans across America to get involved in politics and support candidates and parties that protect their interests.
100%
We had the same thing happen with an elite high school in SF. Lowell High School was one of the top public high schools in the Bay Area until liberals were complaining about racial equality.
This same scenario happened in San Francisco for Lowell high school. Voters here in sf recall three school board as well. I guess people around the country are waking up to some of these bs liberal democratic mindset…
Same thing in NYC and the specialized magnet high schools which are majority Asian. I attended Bronx Science. Our previous mayor attempted to abolish the entrance exam in favor of increasing "diversity". Interesting to see similarities across the country.
I've had plenty of friends from TJ, and while the change does initially seem kind of weird, there's also harsh realities about how people prep for it. My friends went to TJ prep for well over six years and never got in. I've had friends who had the talent or intellect for it but didn't have the means to prep for it. I've watched people pour thousands of dollars into getting into this school, and that's not something to dismiss. It's not just merit. Money got these kids places. Generational wealth got these kids places. It's important for kids who didn't have these opportunities -- because they are out there even though FCPS Asians might tend to stay in their own bubbles -- to at least get a foot in to begin the journey of upward mobility. The high concentration of Asian Americans at TJ, while maybe representative of elements of merit, is also representative of that wealth that they accumulated and invested into their children. It's not racial discrimination. It's giving people whose families have less better futures. It's a relatively new policy so I expect that FCPS/TJ will need some years to adjust and improve the system. I'm also coming from a place where my dad being the first in his family born in America with parents who survived the Khmer Rouge didn't have much. His and my mom's lives were very different. Both sides had to fight and climb to have better lives, but my Cambodian family is fighting with trauma that my Filipino family has never experienced. My father is ridiculously intelligent, but he wouldn't have gotten into TJ when he moved to NOVA from Maryland because the programs at his schools were not as advanced, and his family didn't have the means to get him daily after school tutoring. There are Asians who struggle, too. Your Asian American experience is not totally representative either.
I never heard about these, but I can definitely name people I know that are similar to these archetypes!
I live in EU but I do agree a lot on this triangle. I relate myself to the 2nd one but most Asians i met in Europe are indeed boba liberals. We have less horrible asian hate here (and no guns). I think thats why you don't see many azn nationalists here in Europe.
Because Europe has turks,arabs,Pakistanis,non east asians.
Well I’ll be honest I’m both parts and
Now in recent events i feel like right leaning intersectionist
I know because my moms family (Laos) was poor and we lived in the ghetto
We had gang bangers in the family
Gamblers
Drug dopes 😔
The environment was volatile
Arguments over trivial things
And politically they get their news from radical black news idk how or why they identify with them with unrelenting hate for whites
But more importantly was independence
Everyone did what they wanted
They aren’t bad people I guess
I never forget my background and what they did to provide what they could and they made me happy with what we had and I learned you gotta look adversity in the face and stomp on it’s toes and sucker punch it
On the other hand my Cambodian “conservative” family
Even though They believe in democrats politics like trump being racist
Very family oriented
Structured
Sense of responsibility
Mature
Supportive
All important things went through the elders (grandma and grandpa)
Also argued about trivial things
Not as confrontational but will not back down
Volatile while drinking
Almost… controlling… when there’s discourse
What I learned From my family is to speak up for yourself… learn to piece your words together to convey your feelings (once you hit 18 otherwise you will be beaten)
You start bottling up these emotions and it’s not good for you
You feel secluded become depressed
Stop taking care of yourself or harm/starve / become violent
Most important
Is Put your mental health first
Being in both environments you witness some things that make you depressed later on
So talk about it
Talk to someone if you can
Don’t rely on sex as a comfort as you’ll slip
Into a deeper hole
I love my families
But it really is a double edged sword
You can have an intersectional understanding of reality, and still have personal behavior that's "conservative". I basically do. Partly by choice, partly by circumstances.
The flipside is you can have a right wing individualist and militaristic understanding (that the world is selfish and violent), and have personal behavior that's "liberal" (getting loaded, etc.)
I hear yall. I do. And neither side of the aisle is doing things completely right. I think that maintaining an individualist stance though doesn't solve issues. There seems to be a tendency within the Asian American community to be very supportive of your own immediate community, but everything outside of that isn't really your problem. Approaching it that way feels like putting band aids on a wound. It's not solving the root cause or preventing that wound from occurring. Of course treating the damage is important but preventative care is even more so. The world isn't set. We as people created the country and systems we live in, and we can change it -- not just for ourselves, but to make sure our neighbors, friends, people in nearby cities or states are doing well because we're all affecting another whether directly or indirectly. As a country, a community, it's imperative to listen to and work towards solving everyone's issues, otherwise we get an infection and we might have to amputate a limb. An avoidable situation had we put forth the effort before it came to the worst. As individualistic as America is and founded as, everyone can only do so much in isolation.
I am a Moderate leaning Conservative.
My parents immigrated from Vietnam.
I was born in the USA.
Most of the people that I grew up with were Liberals.
Most first gen asians are conservative. Ones who are born here tend to forget their culture and language and get more radicalized to the left
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2A Asian Americans are not about fighting fire with fire. It's simply about lawful self-defense against imminent death or great bodily harm.
That's exactly what fighting fire with fire is.
I think 2A AA have a lot of correct ideas. Being prepared, being aware, are important. It's also important to know the neighborhood, and be a presence. It's also important to help the community become safer, together. Asians need to improve our image regarding making a community response to racism, so we don't get messed with.
@@johnkawakami8395 Thank you for your explanation. However, the phrase "fighting fire with fire" leaves open the possibility that you can attack someone first before they attack you. Or that you can plan and carry out revenge after you were victimized. Both of these actions are illegal for 2A advocates. You can only use deadly force in self-defense when there is imminent death or great bodily harm, you cannot use deadly force pre-emptively or in a planned way after the fact. Self-defense is much simpler, all human beings have the natural right to self-defense whether they like water, wind, fire, or wood. =)
Not sure that overturning Roe v Wade is going to help stability
Now that you mention it, almost none of the Republican party’s actions in the past decade could be described as bringing stability. I never stopped to think about it from that angle before your comment.
@@RicochetForce how's gasoline
Never heard of these terms, but I've encountered people like this.
Same here. I'm with you. Winston-Salem, NC
I've never heard of these but I'm a GenX 2nd gen 🇺🇸. I've seen all three types support Yang. I'm most like the intersectional but also somewhat boba.
I’m glad to see the Asian community organizing. I’m a child of the 60’s and the world needed to hear both MLK’s words and Malcom’s words. One was nonviolent and the other decided it was time to stop taking the status quo’s crap violently if needed. Unfortunately both were killed along with JFK and Bobby. Don’t know what to say except the days ahead are going to be some serious times. Go for it.
100%
just don't let Boba Liberals speak for Asians as if they're the majority mindset
Malcolm x was pathetic. never listen to what he says, you'll just become lost.
First time heard "Boba liberal" term . please don't give BOBA bad rep. Because I'm hard core conservative who likes drink Boba down here in the South( H-town). 😛
Like pho too? It’s like ramen on coke
@ForeverDreamWithinADream Considering ‘politics’ is nothing more than opinion made into official policy? No.
It’s a luxury (or ignorance) to think things are exempt from politics. Hell, even the types of toys babies can play with (or if they should be allowed toys at all) is caught up in this.
The issue I have with boba liberals is the same I have with latte liberals - they vote for corporate Democrats, parrot woke talking points, but don't actually do anything substantive to fight back, nor do they believe in fundamentally change the system that is at the root of all oppression, including Asian oppression. The AZN Nationalists are at least thinking more about these issues, but they fall into similar problems as the Black Nationalists/Separatists of the 60s - by isolating themselves against all other groups, they create no way to build a broader movement that can change fundamental problems which affect Asians as well as other people. Plus, I think those who fall into that category sometimes begin demonizing other marginalized groups of people.
I think having an outlook that views the system itself as the underlying problem, and sees unity across different Asians/Asian-Americans (in the case of the US/Canada), but also across different groups of oppressed and exploited people, is the only way to actually fundamentally change the system that is negatively affecting Asians, resulting in Anti-Asian hate, etc. We might associate the Black Panthers with the "AZN Nationalist" group, but we have to remember Fred Hampton argued for solidarity across different races, built the rainbow coalition, and saw class as the underlying division in society that fueled racism.
so yes, capitalism is the problem, and race is the symptom
@@BBarNavi indeed
I don't even know what I am, I guess I am more AZN nationalist more than anything because of how involved I am with 2A, but I feel like I am way more right-wing the most of the AZN nationalist types.
Most woke these days is posturing. Most people don't believe in what they are reposting and saying... it's to fit in and go with the flow because that's how people listen to you these days.
Correct. In America, any group of citizens can gather and have a wealth sharing program among themselves if they want to practice socialism so badly. It would be completely legal to do it voluntarily. Yet it wouldn't work unless everyone is forced into their economic system. So these woke liberals don't actually care about socialism they just want other people's stuff.
yes just keep telling yourself that and one day you will believe it @@jordanjohnson9866
Very few people are left-wing or right-wing on every issue. Putting everybody into boxes is part of the problem.
I know right. More poeple have mixture of left and right wing beliefs.
Not us Generation X Asians. We grew up defending our People and Neighborhoods from Racist Democrat Voters who used to attack us Minorities in the streets so frequently, many of us formed "Protection Groups" to protect against attacks. Many of those became Entities such as MS13, TRG, Armenian Power, Black Dragon, etc, etc.
The worst offenders being Mexican Sureño Gangs (Not All Were Racist) and Neo Nazi Types (They claimed Left in those days before Obama).
This was when most all of us were Traditionally on The Right. Many of us having Escaped Communism and welcomed by The Republican Party who also gave Amnesty to about 2.4 Million Illegal Aliens and STILL got wrongly Labeled as "Racists" around the time when Pete Wilson Left Office as Governor of CA.
We also had to score significantly higher than our Counterparts to get into the same choice colleges because of Racist Affirmative Action. And now, Our Children have to go through the same BS and there are also Commercials telling anyone who votes against Racist Affirmative Actions is a "Racist".
And now The Left is trying to tell us that we are NOT Minorities and are now "adjacent Whites" because traditionally we earn too much annually as a whole.
And The Left is now calling us some "AAPI" BS Pronoun.
We will never support:
1. Communism
2. Grooming Our Children to be Gay/ Trans
3. Pedophilia
4. Taking Away The Patriarchy In Our Homes
5. Taking Away Our Religions
6. Taking Away Our 2nd Amendment
7. Affirmative Action
8. Having Pronouns
9. Putting Any Race Above Our Own
10. Those Attacking Our People
(We actively went out and searched for those attacking us in My Youth. We didn't just virtue signal taking pics while walking through Chinatown)
11. Conforming
12. Anyone Trying to Tell Us We Are Not Minorities
13. Forcing Us to Think & Vote a Certain Way
14. CRT
15. Catering to Any Other Race
The Left has MADE everything political for many of us.
@@josephgee2515 Becasue I think democrats are usualy the first one to call out social issues between races. their demographics of the exteme ones on the democrats side tend to be SJWs and Communists who happened to have the lerger voices in todays political climate. I agree with some of your points since my husband is japanese. He hates affirmative actions as well.
If we put all the black criminals in boxes under ground, there wouldn't be any problems
Time for an Asian Supreme Court justice who is moderately conservative. I don’t agree that bobs liberals care about Asian representation but more about BLM
The number of moderate and conservative asians in America will be bigger than the media lead the public to believe. Boba asians are the loudest and doesn't tolerate asians that don't share their values and beliefs. So majority of asians will remain quiet.
Politics is cancer lol
So true!!! They do care more about blacks than they do Asians.
It's the first time I've heard of the intersectional Asians category. I think they're often lumped in with Boba Liberals, who the AZNs tend to dislike lol.
A lot of the less political Asians tend to lean conservative in the US because it's closest to the stereotype traditional culture. Anything remotely liberal tends to fight against tradition, so there's a big disconnect between political Asian-Americans vs the immigrant Asians. Asian-Americans also need to realize that they are not the voice for immigrants or Asians in the motherland, and try to take their cultural differences into consideration instead of trying to speak for/as them when they're only ethnically Asian.
Honestly, whoosh. The internet terminology tho. How I tried to narrow and comprehend that was so were just classified differently by our income. And I do believe that over all, since we're the small percentage, not many of us want to be uh too radical anything. I get that everything has a trickle down effect but I am pretty much building from scratch too. I didn't think of myself as a far too anything but I guess I am blue collar. Conservative :/? Idk but my "boba" of an Asian circle... is even smaller here... By Boba, I just meant bubble. Bc im trying to get Asian i.net cool points 🤓.
I think they just made up the term "intersectionals", but I'm ok with it. I'm one.
Yeah, the nationalists call us (intersectionals) "boba liberals" and also think we are "liberals", but most of us think "liberal" is a slur that refers to Democrats who support capitalism (which is most Democrats).
I think the rest of the take is pretty correct... except, things do change after the 2nd generation. I'm relatively more traditional in some ways than conservative nationalists, simply because I have an immigrant mother in a community that's well into the 4th and 5th generation.
I'm also anti-nationalistic, because my two national identities are these violent, imperialist countries, and it took me a long time to see the value of nationalism.
Broadly correct. I’d say most 1.5 and 2nd gen politically active Asians are traditional minded in some ways relative to their non-Asian counterparts
flips n koreans vote republicans where i live others democrats
Boba literals hurt Asians, case closed
Nope. They need to wake up. Why Andrew Wang left the democratic party???
@@ginNjus yang?
@@changbooger hahaha. I'm here for the typos.
I would be a mix of all 3 but more combined interesectional and AZN since I started learning about Asian racism on aznidentity and also learnt about Chinese studies during University
Someone is a V.I.P 👀
@@minascookie2038 yea haha made it in high school and never changed it
Green Tea Conservatives VS. Boba Liberals !!! The war is on !! (Luckily I drink Mountain Dew, but you ain't heard that from me ;)
Nationalist for sure my grandfather left Vietnam to escape communism. I'm not trying to let bullshit like that happen here
Calling Boba Liberals having a slight Asian “slant” would probably make them cry and go on a “mostly peaceful” protest🤷🏻♂️ #BASED 🇺🇸🦅
I consider myself as a Based K-Populist
I perceive especially with East Asians especially Chinese (outside China or left China 1980's and earlier), Taiwanese, and Japanese to be prone to boba liberalism by default. Koreans seem to have a good mix all around. Vietnamese seem to be more conservative but I know exceptions to that. Filipinos can go either way.
@microwaveeee not really. Not on the left coasts.
i have never heard of intersectional asians or encounter them in my life. I was in democratic party in my young ages until i became conservative. I didn't attend college but i graduated high school.
If someone calls themselves an activist, that's usually a red flag, especially if they're in a privileged position where the issues they are advocating for don't directly affect them. The gender and ethnic studies types normally don't have to worry about making ends meet or getting physically assaulted on the street because they are protected by their elitist bubble, away from the harsh realities of life where they can ponder about these hypothetical theories.
Makes sense!
I know a few boba liberals 🤣
This was in my recommendations, so I assume that Big Brother knows I got boba tea today.
3rd generation San Francisco Chinese… how about a boba (using your term) conservative. (Engineer)
I agree with the other comments. I think most liberalism is just virtue signaling.
Lol I guess I'm a cross between intersectional asian and boba liberal since I work in the corporate sector but also support social democracy/ left-wing populism.
It's actually not that rare for siblings to be nothing alike. Kids are breaking away from their parent's beliefs more than ever. Sometimes it's for the better.
probably just depends on your friends
Why does the term Boba liberal feel like marginalization by the troll/racist conservatives? Similar to the term liberal snowflake? To be honest, all the terms sound like new stereotypes. Where does a gun owning, idealistic socialist but mostly liberal capitalistic traditional Asian belong?
Probably intersectional, because you have some big-picture perspective.
Intriguing. Thanks guys.
@6:30 funny russian flag with boba lol
Andrew hair looks like the economy.... Struggling
Bruh me 2
that was unnecessary.
@@Garnishes it's super necessary
Please do gyro spots. And show some places in NJ, LI, and upstate
I fall under the 3rd category AZN Nationalist
Get into guns because it’s a fun hobby similar to people shooting bows and arrows. It’s just nice that you can also use it to protect the things you love.
I understand that problems make people come up with different ideas on how to solve them and that ends up creating a big divide between what's left and what's right or what's red and what's blue, a more masculine or feminine approach to things.
But I believe that going with just one option fully is not going to help anyone, any extreme ends up being a bad decision in the end, but it's okay because thanks to trying the extremes we can get near the center like a pendulum.
What I see too much at this time is this great divide between both sides when we're all in the same boat, yes, everyone has their own opinion and it leans more towards one of both extremes, but please guys always remember we're part of the same, don't get too distracted by politics just as long as it's helping us unite more. I was born in Spain and here after the civil war no one has really recovered from it. It's gone because the fascists won thanks to Hitler and others, the dictator that ruled died and now we're all against each other again, nothing has really changed in the end, it's turning into a blind fight between parties forcing you to vote for one of them to not give power to the other party which honestly sounds to me like football or any form of competition, this has become a really sticky topic to talk about here because the deaths and pain from the war has never went away, no one apologized for it or tried to make things better. Now we have extreme left, extreme right and "middles" that are just disguised right parties. No one is trying to change this divide, if one is satisfied the other isn't, and no one ends up satisfied because it always fails us so they try voting the next one hoping something will change when it's the same constant approach with different trends and topics to talk about.
I dated a fascist guy once, I had no idea at the time and I never imagined it would happen, especially because I'm brown-ish, but I realized he wasn't a bad person or a hopeless cause, we just have different pasts and ideals and I'm not going to hate him because of that, no one knows what the right answer is but what's important is to care for each other even if we don't think alike, we belong to the same place and before politics we came from the same origin, we actually had a lot of things in common.
My family would've never accepted that though because our ancestors were murdered by fascism and that's no joke.
But anyway, if we want to reach a conclusion where everyone wins, everyone needs to let each other exist as they are, as long as you're not creating fear for ill motives dividing each other more. Maybe we just need to go back to the structure that we've created and build it a bit differently getting rid of the parts that don't serve us like, first of all, fear propaganda or anything fear based
For anyone interested in how it ended up like this, it was actually a pretty common issue everywhere.
To summarize, Spain was still feudal so most of the working population was illiterate and working in fields with little to no rights while the church and military lived rent free and with plenty of political power, sometimes even more than the king.
The thing is leftist republicans and socialists got elected, which created riots against the king so he fled the country, Spain became a Republic, but for a really short time. They tried to change norms so that the working class could go to public school, farmers could have more rights and to separate the State from the church and military. So the church started fear propaganda against them, with a bit of time they became two really distinct and opposite parties with totally opposite ideologies influencing the population to support one against the other. People revolted from anarchists to nationalists to divided republicans, it was a mess. They started murdering each other's leaders and administrators so in the end, the Nationalist party started a coup d'etat starting the civil war.
On one side there were nationalists that supported the church and military and everything traditional, lead by Franco and backed by other fascists like Hitler and Mussolini.
On the other there were republicans which were mostly based by communism and socialism backed by the Soviet Union.
They fought each other leading to 500,000 deaths aprox also thanks to Nazis helping the Nationalists by bombing Guernica and other cities. It ended by Franco winning the war which lead to a dictatorship until he died. During that dictatorship a lot more people died unnecessarily due to more strict rules, forcing Catholicism and Nationalism on everyone until the mid 70s.
To this day there are still tons of bodies buried around Spain not being returned to their families or respected in any way while Franco is still buried under a big ass pantheon.
Politics have changed our image a lot but no one got over the war, it's still not talked about enough and I fear history will repeat itself if we still continue with this "them vs us" mentality
There's only two. Boba Lib + Asian conservatives. Libs and Intersectional are basically the same.
Probably most, but not all...rare, but there are a few that are not conservative (even moderately) or liberal, say, listens to NPR/PBS.
I'm an intersectional. I call myself a boba liberal to annoy conservatives, but don't fit that stereotype the bros present, at all. I almost completely fit the stereotype the bros make about intersectionals.
Also, some of the intersectionals are leftist and nationalist. Maybe internationalist would be more correct - they are into their specific ethnicity, and want to actively unite with all ethnicities and oppressed communities to overthrow capitalism, so a genuine internationalism can flourish. They don't trust white people or white society and politics. They want to preserve Asian ethnic communities as spaces where the different groups can get along.
Dang libs why u gotta say it like that
Legit didn't know what boba liberal is until now. THANKS.
So you guys described Asian youtube channels as Boba
How big is the Asian-American community supporting Trump and following QAnon? I think this group is rising.
I encourage folks here (esp Chinese Americans) to check out / read up on these fine folks on China-US relation and (world) geopolitics:
Vijay Prashad
Kishore Mahbubani
Michael Hudson
Pepe Escobar
prashad is worthless
remember when u guys dedicated a video against muslim hate? and donated the proceeds of the vid to help muslims, have those muslims or any return the favor?
I’m generation X and never heard these terms. Probably a cross between Boba and AZN
Not boba dog, don’t tie it to politics
I think they each deal with one aspect of life as an aisan.
The AZN Nationalist side deals with the consequences of the past. The boba liberal side keeps our day to day together to make a living. And the Intersectionality Asian side looks to the future on where we should go.
Tapioca Tea is one of those things that should had remained local.
Industrial Revolution and it's consequences.
So true
Mao says politics comes out the barrel of a gun. But I load mine with Boba tea balls.
I'm really enjoying these dialogue videos that you guys are doing. Well done.
I can't help but laugh at these terms 😂 boba liberals basically are castrated anime consumers, intersectional Asians can be hippie woke writers, and i could see AZN nationalists as jungle fighters
Me: none of the above lol
I empathize abit with all three listed tho. Not upper middle class, not (traditionally) into academia, not quite pro guns/violence type...
AZNs may be more militant but many of them still hesitate to carry guns. In reality, most of them advocate going to the gym or learning a martial art, and maybe carry a knife.
"sweet but lacking in content", I think people who ascribe to this definition are overthinking it. I love this term because the picture of a boba liberal tweeting about the supposed "anti-blackness" of the asian community while drinking boba tea in a working class boba restaurant is peak bullshit and tone-deafness lol
lmaoooo i felt so called out when yall introduced the intersectional asian identity. i'm definitely not as hardcore as my peers at school though
Most of my peers are into that too. I feel like the world has gone insane. People are literally believing some crazy asss ideologies that were stemed from cultural marxism. Crazy americans lmao
Yes
I'm a Tankie anti imperiaist Asian
Ive never heard of these, maybe I’m just getting old or I’m from Ohio, but I dont understand why people care so much.
I’m in Strongsville too. I’m not familiar with these either. Kind of understand the descriptions though. Class of 88
Love your vids, u guys are hella underrated . Just trying to help, i notice theres a lot of topics (in other podcasts too) that u guys kind of talk around and not directly explain what you really mean, such as blm comparisons to asians. Like i get how it can appeal to a larger audience but imo it kind of comes across as being scared and might be deterring repeat views. I think if you guys were just more open and discussed controversial topics your podcasts woud do better. I like watching SNEAKO for example, i dont agree with many things he says but i appreciate how actually believes what he says and isnt concerned with getting attacked which makes ppl keep watching. These are great topics, w a lot of potential audience but if you made more real honedt points which might not be super pc it would do better for sure and your real fans would come back more often.
I'll admit right up front, that I'm not crazy about being classified, you mention that alot of Asian ideas towards politics comes from their parents and family, which could be true, but you left out geography. I think where you were raised plays an important part in your political ideas. Those Asians who grew up poor, in large cities are most likely American born but ethnically Asian, and don't have the luxury of being called one of those terms. They're fighting hard just to survive. I see this in my practice on an almost daily basis. I have more Asian patients under the poverty level, than any other race.Who when asked say they're more likely to vote for a democratic than a republican. Personally I think that unless you're rich or wealthy to vote republican is undermining your chances at success. Republicans only care about their own kind and let's face it Asian's are really outnumbered by other races even in their own communities politically. Nothing will change until this changes starting at the local level. I say this as a Canadian Inuit/Eskimo married to a fourth generation American of Chinese ethnicity, who saw himself as an American first Chinese secondly.
Straight up. They just added Mandarin to the audio announcements at the local public hospital in Los Angeles. (That's where low income people go to get healthcare here.) It's not just locally born Asians who are poor, but immigrants. The hospital is next to a neighborhood that's 25% Asian, but most people think it's only Latinos living there.
The most important message is VOTE!! Show the polls that you count and you will be seen.
I live in the same neighborhood has the Fung Bros and the city under DiBlasio added homeless shelters(6 w/2 more planned), methadone clinics (6) and a new prison(only one in Manhattan). DiBlasio did this and he was liberal (I guess Asians don’t count as POC).
We fought off 2 more shelters this past month by rallying. (Thanks, Mayor Adams for listening) There are neighborhoods with 0 homeless shelters in NYC. They dump on Chinatown because we don’t vote!! Protect your family, elders and children by Voting.
So basically there is more risk of violence and theft where ever homeless shelters are, and the Gov disproportionately puts them all in ChinaTown?
I'm def an insectional / 2A azn
You talk, but when things go down, you wish you had Azn Nationalists beside you.
why we gotta politicize boba 😩
what about the ones on the right
what about boba conservative？
Who came up with these terms?
This is quite a generalization :) but I guess I have seen people that loosely fall in each of the categories you have generalized here ... where do you think you guys fall under the categories you defined?
Hurting. Definitely hurting.
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What is a boba liberal someone please explain 😩
my definition is an Asian American who is 'woke' and parrots woke ideology, which often comes from elite college educated whites. Boba Liberals will attack other Asians who are not woke or just don't follow the AAPI "mainstream media narrative" but they themselves aren't doing much to improve things other than virtue signaling BS. To make it simple: Do you know anyone who is "woke' and self-rightous and full of shit? Pretty much the same thing.
You miss Boba Conservative
These people you guys are talking about sound like a conformist.(boba liberals)
je suis huaxia
That’s funny. I’m in a group that is with intersectionals and nationalists.
Comments give me hope. I thought I was alone or in the minority
Similar to white liberals i guess
I don't really like boba
lol because they are racist to their own race
The first time I heard of boba liberals was when I was on r/aznidentity but that sub so sooo toxic😭
I heard the term on IG, but then got pointed to that subreddit. Yeah, it's pretty bad... but at least it has some diversity of opinion. I found other Asian subreddits that are worse.
You lost me with the "toxic masculinity" when an Asian man wants to defend his own. GTFOH,
They’re not saying all Asian men that want to defend the Asian community have toxic masculinity, but there is a possibility that some may grow to be toxic. There’s nothing wrong with being masculine. It becomes a problem when someone puts down another man for being “feminine” or putting down feminine traits. Like if they were to say “women can’t defend the Asian community because they’re helpless and weak” things like that fuel the stereotypes of Asian women being submissive. I do understand your frustration when hearing “toxic masculinity” because there is a lot of misinformation about it and people making assumptions that toxic masculinity means all kinds of masculinity is bad when it’s not.
@@dotdot550 I understand your point, but I would recommend Asias be cautious about using mainstream buzzwords that are readily applied to circumstances that don't often represent their needs. You wouldn't make money selling ice cream in Greenland because it's already cold there
I think they're referring to the incel/MRAsian movement within the AZN Nationalist group who hate white men ("pinkoid/pinkcel") and Asian women ("Lu") and see white women as conquests, probably too scared to address that part lol. They tend to come out and harass/threaten Asian women as well as men ("Chan") who they consider "Boba liberals" (= any Asians who disagree with them or who they consider "feminist") online.
I agree with some of their points like racist media representation and stereotypes of Asian men, but the rampant racism and misogyny is very concerning imo.
The Fung Bros are bobas.
That’s what I was thinking too.
these guys complain about crazy rich asians but didn't they travel to singapore just to hang around the movie set during the filming?
#Taiwan4Lyfe
I'm boba liberal, come at me bro!!
careful or i'll write a bad yelp review about your business
My political party
Mongol party 🇲🇳
This is a 20 mins mess
leftist can be militant too