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When it comes to American Media, I noticed Asian men are always portrayed as either that nerdy dude, like the joke of the movie, or that fobby dude who knows martial arts. Where as the Asian women are portrayed as exotic, submissive, etc. You will never see Hollywood cast an Asian man in a romantic role, but almost always you will see Hollywood make an Asian themed movie where the white guy often plays the lead role and wins the heart of the Asian girl. While Asian men are often push to the side and seen as inferior or undesirable.
They did once with Sessue Hayakwawa. Even though he was often portrayed as a villain and womanizer, white women in particular still loved him. It's ironic that Asian faces often exhibits the qualities that agencies look for when it comes to models, dark brooding eyes, cheekbones and a nice jaw but we are still seen as unattractive, unless female.
Hollywood has since learned that they can't portray us as perfect people who are humble, productive, varied in personality, have a rich history and culture independent from western culture and good looking and sexy to boot? No we have to have a flaw or 10.
@49jubilee did you not watch altered carbon? Not exactly Hollywood but AMBF does exist if anything it is the only acceptable pairing for AM for the most part.
Same in asian countries. Asian guy is the lead role
I think it all comes down to culture. Obviously you won't see an indian or i dunno hero in a chinese movie.
@@Eveningtimes122 of course but he was specifically talking about "asian themed movies"
Very true about physical look of Asians. I’m 6 foot Asian from the Bay Area and I never felt the discrimination you speak of. I’m the leader of my crew at work and promotions comes easy for me. And I will be that pioneer and try to break all Asian stereotypes!
Who else watches all their videos and is not asian
The best way to hear others voice. I find it simple to find those individuals. If not in your community. Well youtube creators are your best bet.
I am not asian. I am black guy. I like what the material they do.
Thank you for your interest brotha
To be a good ally and understand others it’s important to listen to others
I ain't asian but I watch my brothers.
I'm a hispanic dude. Honestly, being from a border town in Texas it wasn't until adulthood that I had experiences with Asians (moved to Austin). I've had a few Japanese, Chinese, and Korean friends over the last decade, and I respect the hell out of all of them. I'm going to watch this channel more often to get a better perspective of Asian culture. I'm not about political correctness, but after the Chris Rock monologue I started really noticing some of the racism directed toward Asians that isn't addressed by mainstream media. It's messed up
Sup dude. I am a Hispanic as well, From Corpus here and we don't see a lot of Asians other then restaurants, and probably some of the richer schools. I have always liked some Asian cultures as much as my own, But I only experienced culture personally when I went to college 2 years ago in Mississippi. I met a lot of Koreans and Chinese and actually they were the first friends I made in college(besides the baseball team). I am not exaggerating when I say I knew every Korean and Chinese student there. We all stay in touch still even when they went back and I grew super close with them. Before college I started learning Japanese which I still am right now and then soon I'm going to learn Korean.
Now to talk about what you were saying I believe Asians are in a weird place right now. Comedic wise is kinda iffy because nobody is safe from comedy, but some people do take it too far. and there are lots of stereotypes too, more than Hispanics even. I think with BTS being popular and the craze right now will benefit not just Koreans, but Asians in general. Like what 88rising and fung bros are doing is such a huge help in building up their image and being that voice for them. And people like you and I can help them in the process with helping us. Even though Asians aren't getting as much negativity as Hispanics and such they still aren't getting the recognition they deserve because they don't have a voice. well we do in the U.S. so let's be that voice for them because we understand.
Recently anime and video games has brought Americans closer to Japanese culture, Music and korean dramas to korean culture, and even though Chinese culture is probably the biggest Asian culture we have here I think people still don't understand them(at least older people). There are a lot of twitch streamers who visit China a lot and even speak the language and have girlfriends from there and, we as a nation, even celebrate their lunar year. The younger generations are starting to break down that barrier little by little. I even got my cousins and close friends and even nephew into Asian culture too. It's small, but it's a start.
I appreciate your love for asian culture! : D
It's Life thank you!
Stop calling us chino
It isn't messed up, it's life. white people face stereotypes and discrimination as well. The difference is, they don't act like it's the be all and end all of their lives. Black people act like they take a dagger to the soul at everything. I hope Asians don't start adapting this destructive low self esteem mindset where they over-focus on the negative instead of getting on with their lives. I'm black by the way so I'm not over-speaking here.
I’m an Asian American and I’m accepting responsibility. I know that I work hard in the work place and I get recognition but I don’t ask for things. They say that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Ive learned now that even though I’m American I was raised in an Asian household where I was taught that you follow the rules and you do as your told in school and work, and you deliver your best work. But I’ve notice that my coworkers that are Caucasian will ask for raises and will voice their opinions more often. Where as before I saw it as complaining or asking for too much. I think this is a big part of why Asians are in the professional industry but don’t move up as often
I mean research shows that women as well are getting choke-holded from upper level executive positions. Just being real but there really is a good portion of the responsibility on the people just wanting to keep white males in higher positions.
jacquelinecdo also when Asians are the “squeaky wheel” they are seen as rude and angry but when others do it they’re seen as normal.
I see that in myself. Growing up in an Asian household with traditional parents on it's own taught me to think differently because a lot of the values my parents instill on me don't work with the way I view the world. It's not that I don't value it or respect it, it just doesn't work with me personally. The only value that sticks with me is to work hard in life and in what I do because of my parents working everyday and long hours to provide and succeed in life. We Asians work hard AF and never ask for anything from anyone.
You hinted at something worth considering... Differences in personality traits are a huge factor in determining who moves up the ladder. For instance, if you control for agreeableness (one of the traits in the five factor model of personality), you'll see much less of a pay gap between men and women (because women are more agreeable than men). If Asians are more agreeable (on average) than people of other races, that could help explain why there are fewer of them in executive positions.
In a country like China with over a billion people, you mean to tell me there no squeaky wheels? It's a cut throat place, competition for limited resources are fierce as it is in other Asian countries. If you have never asked for a raise, then maybe you deserve what they're paying you now.
Deep conversation, I did not realize until this video how the Asian people were stereotyped so harshly. I come from a mixed background (black/white). My grand-daughter's father is Chinese Jamaican. My youngest daughter's boyfriend is Vietnamese. My family now has become even more diverse and I love it. The language and cultures. My husband is Indian but from South America. The American society needs to let go of these stereotypes of people. As long as this continues and will remain and struggling uphill battle. You guy's are doing great by exposing and talking about it, much love to you!!💪❤
As a Chinese American man, I will say our motivation in life makes the biggest difference. If you grew up poor and you desire a life of financial security for you and your family, your actions will go toward that. Therefore there’ll be less emphasis on your part to appear a certain way to society in general or to make it to executive leadership status. You just don’t have time for that. Your whole goal is to provide for you and your family. So my nose will be to the grindstone and not worried about appearing sexy and masculine, and it won’t be taking too many chances proposing creative ideas to my bosses in hopes of getting promoted. I’ll just be doing the job I was assigned to do and not making too many waves and risk losing my employment. That’s how many of us were raised by parents whose only goal was survival. They passed that on to us whether applicable or not. As adults you want us to be masculine tough guys and make a difference and be out there making noise, while our parents emphasized from the beginning to just work hard and don’t lose your job, and any by no means worry about your public image.
FlexWheeler2nd Agree!
Yes stick to the 9-5 traditional method of security and acceptable image for society. Be mediocre, dont fluff feathers, not so much activism, just blend in the background and do your best to make a good living. I know this traditional mindset. Its kind of bland and oppressive. Some rebellious asian youngsters. Like Awkwafina. And Anna Akana. Maybe some other girls and guys out there. TH-cam is their channel of self expression. When their job dont feel satisfying. Im talking as if I know asian american life but I honestly dont. Im only saying this as I would like asian americans to raise the bar of self esteem (maybe it can be done so others asian minorities can share sense of pride) for the asians who dont get to influence world view is largely influenced from american view of Asians in general. Indians has used their platform in variety of ways and have challenge their status quo in Britain. And you can see more female indians having their images celebrated into powerful tv series like baywatch etcs. Or mindy project and champions tv series. Previously we have lucy liu in charlies angels. What we need to step up with is perhaps a mediocre jane asian woman and a mediocre jack asian man that can represent these asian american dudes have as much space and social acceptance to shine without breaking their back to prove their good enough to be given amazing opportunities. Jackie Chan has helped with elevating the asian image. But its heartbreaking to see the sacrifices Jackie does to get where he is. Anyhow im sure theres a lot of asian american who has cool jobs because they are amazing but they dont necessarily be interviewed for their awesomeness. Maybe you guys can find these awesome asian american doing amazing things and start a trend. #coolasianamericans
Actually I do have one curious question for anyone who cares - why such a huge need to keep talking about issues of public image, when the constant brooding on the idea of “public image” feels very reactionary and on the contrary, even less empowering for the community. I think it’s very backfiring. Because - who cares what the majority of society thinks when all you need to know is what you need to do within your own life, and perhaps then achieve something great that will later be the pride of the community. What I’m saying is, perhaps we should stop reacting too much to any sort of socially conceived stereotypes that may not be that pleasant to hear or receive initially, and start doing more concrete things. I’m not putting activism down, activism is great, it primarily raises awareness. But yea, I’m saying don’t think too much either and just keep doing your own thing until it becomes some good concrete shit that would really be some legitimate form of pride or representation for the community.
serenityq26 thanks for your reply and it was insightful :) Yea I see what you mean and I actually wasn’t writing that with any intention of paralleling with the “model minority” school of thought. I just meant it as, if very plainly put, don’t think too much about what the majority thinks, do your own thing, don’t let that kind of insecurity affect you. Personally I just never liked the idea of that kind of insecurity getting too much to one’s self.
Bro it's not just how we're raised, the society we live in also has expectations of us. When we act "out of line" people don't know how to react to us, and usually they seem to think we're "broken" because we spoke out or proposed something and even though it would be positive, it can be turned into a negative by claiming you are "rude" or some other bs. No doubt your idea will be stolen by someone else who may repeat it verbatim only to have a more positive reaction follow it.
Great topics! I love what you two are trying to do here!!! This felt like a shallow lightening round. I want more! This could have been a series where each topic was a full length podcast/conversation. Someone mentioned it below too, a female perspective or two could also add a great deal to the conversations! But if you do not, it's awesome to hear the Asian male perspective too, play that up! I hope you all do more of this but more in depth in the future. Thank you!
I've got a lot of respect for Asian men I feel bad about their situation, it's true what they say, in America, they are depicted as the funny one or the nerdy one. I only hope they'll get a strong Asian role model to look up to in this generation. Love from a Latino.
@ But there are a lot of tough main latinos that gets the girl in movies, just like black males. But there's like zero cool male Asian lead that gets the girl.
Anthony Perez vote for Andrew Yang 💯😂
Hold up do you know anyone named Julian Perez that go to portage park school in chicago because he has a brother I think is named Anthony Perez and if your his brother then I'm shook
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@@Xx808Mr_RagerxX omg lmao😂 I knew it from the star wars photo and this is steven beasley from 8th grade
What about the rise of Asians in media but only hapas getting lead roles? The parallel between our community and other PoC communities and accentuations on western/euro features in media kinda scares me tbh.
@49jubilee I've seen a lot of anime and never thought of anime characters as white unless they were explicitly so, like literally Aryan. I also didn't ever feel the whole inferiority complex by watching anime, especially dbz, you know with all the super saiyan turning an Asian man into a stereotypical Aryan man?
It’s also usually half white half asian men getting the central roles full Asian men should be getting. This doesn’t happen to full Asian women like that.... hmmmmmmm
It’s all by design, the racists don’t want to let go and unfortunately a lot of us are complicit.
Either you are the token Asian/Black/Brown, or typed casted Martial Artist/Drug Dealer/Landscaping. I never liked that. Why can't the person that can play that role the best. Play any role!
@@Drownedinblood You're goofing if you don't see how anime characters are made to look at least white leaning.
Yo shout out to Asian Not Asian podcast tho
Guys this was good /great. You made some heavy points, issues plus letting all hang out. Your young points of view are refreshing. The top 10 of u list clearly what young men & women think even if don't say or express it. Keep up the work u do. Love all the food places u go 2 making comparisons.
1LOVE - JAH LOVE - PEACE BE WITH YOU
Be the best version of yourself. Let the work speak for itself! 💪
When that doesn't work. Do that extra credit and show your work. It's not saying you are better than. It shows you are willing to go the limit. Then surpass those limitations.
Yeah, but top jobs often go to a white man. :(
Great response
@@helenfong3339 not true, asians hold many leadership roles. Look up the first few billionares. Top 100. Reply the number of asians you see
It's kinda interesting how some of the problems in the Asian community is kinda of parallel to the Black Community. Sexualization of our women, the greater society wanting to profit off our culture, the whole mental health issue, just to name a few. It's quite interesting that the Asian community is starting to have a conversation about your issues and that's a good thing.My community (Black People) have been having these conversations for a while now and are trying to figure out how to solve our problems, it may be a while but we will get there I hope you all can do the same. Good luck to you all.
Objectification of women happens across the map, despite ethnicity or nationality. It's a huge problem for ALL women, especially because it starts to happen once you hit puberty. The problem is that Asian and Latina women in particular get the brunt of it, because they are seen my white men as being "submissive."
All minorities have huge similarities in their cultures. We just never stop and think about it.
Maybe we should combine our communities? Strength in numbers.
U need yo stop kidding yourself if u think Asians want to to relate to u as s dark skinned person. I live in Cansda the only racists I meet are ethnic and the majority of them are Asians. I've heard of a bid of an Asian woman in the ZuS being a racist and saying she did not want to rent to a bunch of blck guys. U need to open your ears and eyes!
Minorities want to be on every screen, in every music video, in every leadership position. They fail to understand that they are the minority, the clue is in the name. If you represent 5% of the population (as Asians do) why the fuck do you feel you deserve more than 5% of the representation?
Asians represent 20% of Harvard despite being 5% of the population and they were still bitching.
I certainly relate and appreciate the discussion going on here. I grew up in Hawaii as a half Thai and Japanese American. Moved to Phoenix in 1993 to go to college, and to go from an island to a big city in a desert was not just a mind shock it was an identity shock. My pigeon language was suddenly foreign to everyone, and my slippahs and board shorts and HIC tshirt was not the way to blend in.
Key word is ‘blend’ in, I didn’t want to feel uncomfortable and I was never more conscious of my differences until I was transplanted. Local asians were already assimilated or segregated, but I was lost without a plan or a clue. I never once walked into a grocery store and felt weird to buy cereal and milk, I almost had to go into the tiny oriental goods section to feel remotely normal and at the same time excluded from assimilating.
My identity was taken, and that is how I felt for years, even after finishing college and going to San Diego to work for a tech company. My job interview process was clear from the beginning, I wasn’t getting any tech job unless it was in Cali. I also had to change my looks and present myself professionally and speak more mainlander. This didn’t really bother me that much because I had to do it to succeed and that is all that mattered.
Little did I know, success would not come easy, and to cut to the end of a long story, I got to the point where I just didn’t care about job titles, or getting a raise because I’d lose it to the good ol boy club. It didn’t matter I dress the same, eat the same, or talk the same, my face is all that stopped any conversation from happening about my performance or abilities during promotion time. At the same time, I would get the assignments that only an asian person could handle, menial and repetitive and difficult to diagnose. The answers would come from the golden childs prepicked from the get go, but my contribution would be considered uninteresting.
I realized, I was uninteresting from one perspective because I didn’t mentally go through the same issues as the golden childs did in the subburbs, or was culturally adjusted as someone who travelled to Europe or went to an Ivy league school. All of that considered, there was no identity that made sense and that confused me, because I didn’t fit anywhere. So I carried on, and started to travel all over the world for work. When I went overseas, I found my identity, I was just me.
When I came back, I wasn’t me any more, I was an employee number. I then made another jump to Austin TX to escape the cost of living in Cali, and that was traumatic. I could finally make a living and save, but I was even more confused about my identity. I was expected to be a southern Cali asian even though I wasn’t. By this time I haven’t returned to my Hawaii self in two decades, all gone.
A few years ago, I had a mental breakdown and completely lost it, and the anxiety just sky rocketed. I really lost any hope in finding my grown self. Then I came across a term Low Latent Inhibition (LLI) while researching high functioning schizophrenia. This lead me to a revelation, and I realized this was me. My real mode was focused on everything because all the stimuli around me was being processed as connection to either a threat or not. My real love was knowing how to do the same thing 20 different ways, and my expression of hate was knowing one way to do things. The part that bothered me as an asian through all my years, was doing things one way as others dictated I should to succeed. That wasn’t me, and my LLI self was more clever and open to doing things 20 different ways. I love 80-90s hip hop and R&B, and also loved rock and heavy metal, classical, and all genres of music because I felt the beats and rhythms more than the identity it carried.
People who categorize things in this world and subjectively stereotype people are the people who know one way of doing things. This is not their fault, and it is genetically inherent in their DNA because their parents didn’t go through the struggles of being lost in America. Those epigentic switches in their DNA weren’t turned on like immigrant and first generation asians were. I was lost, but I found my real self inside everything. I am thankful for reaching the breaking point, because I was able to find the piece that connected the thousands of pieces in the puzzle of life. I finally have a grasp of what many asians are going through, that missing link.
I used to get stuck awoke at night thinking about one event in the day or events that are planned for the next day and I would loop my thoughts around that subject so hard I could not sleep and just felt ill and frustrated. A lot of pro athletes go through the same thing, which is why their mental states are taxed like asians. They also have to figure out 20 different ways to do the same thing inorder to succeed, or fail doing the one thing even though they are the best at that one thing.
If there is something that is missing from the conversation, it is identifying the asian flow of life itself. How do asians evolve from a young age into young adults and into their middle age and beyond. We are not destined to be stuck in life doing the same thing, but grow into many ways of connecting all that is discovered and loving the many ways of doing the same things across all subjects.
To visualize this, I always say, if you spend your life climbing the pyramid of expertise of a single subject matter you will eventually be left abandoned at the top and will need to scream across the void to other experts standing a top their own pyramids of expertise. The only way to communicate is to climb back down to a rudimentary level and explain at a level far below anything meaningful. That is the way the golden childs have been telling everyone how to succeed. The reality is, I flip all the pyramids over and turn them into vessels in which I fill with expertise gradually so that I can walk across all subject matter like tiles on the floor while making new ideas and connections. This is how we discover new subject matter undiscovered, and creating visionary ideas.
I'm the younger you. Holy crap my bradda
Whoa that was a lot to process. Did you ever get diagnosed with schizophrenia? Do you think your experiences as an immigrant/transplant influenced your low latent inhibition?
The local braddahs know wassup! Ethnic diversity is all about how many lickens you got when we was keiki’s, all issue settled on the field or just make leis and eat a giant bowl of rice and stew. All that and how can you stay mad anyone.
Wil I did not get diagnosed with schizophrenia. I reached a point that my identity had been in question or whether what I was saying was even being heard by people as I got constant denial from everyone.
LLI was definitely a result of many factors but from what my parents and grandparents went through. If you look at your DNA as a toolbox, and your brain is designed to ultimately balance the bodily functions inside and out, then what happens to the people who birth you causes that DNa to enable certain tools to help survive the potential dangerous environment you are born into. This is especially true when you travel, and move to a new region unlike the ones your parents grew up in. That is why you don’t see giraffes in Alaska. Our abilities to adapt are purely based on how the mind processes. So an extreme change will enable the mind to process more and differently than others as the body will be weaker against the incoming stimuli.
For me, it all turned around once I realized I am processing and pulling in the world unfiltered and able to make conscious choices that weren’t detrimental to my health. In fact LLI is more like you do everything in you power to keep your environment as safe as possible, mentally and physically safer.
The social issues we face today are similar to threats psychologically, 24/7 internet, and constant worry of social status. More and more will become isolated because they don’t know what is happening to them. These types of conversations are what helps inform and inspire to be the human difference we need to see, not the labels and categories we get slapped with on the daily.
I'm not one for identity stuff, but in the corporate world discrimination of Asians in being promoted to higher positions is definitely real. I think it's subconscious rather than active discrimination. The truth is that the upper echelons of corporate management is a club. The preference will always be to hire your friends or people like you. It's an establishment. The good news for Asians, though, is that the Asian region is the economic engine of the world and most of the world's economic growth will happen there. So there are still plenty of opportunities in senior management for Asians. Other than that, my advice for Asians living in the Western world would be: Be your own boss. Start your own companies like the Jews have done. No bamboo ceilings if you're the boss.
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Don’t give up, keep fighting and applying for the upper management role, show management you are interested and eventually someone will give you a chance.
@@jinw4672 I'really don't have any need to fight. Quite happy where I am now. I was just trying to give some practical advice about the realities of the corporate world.
higher positions dont just require a good education and a good degree which is common among asians, it requires leadership, experience and things that cant be caught by getting an A in school which come with time, just like how when the italians first came to america they didnt become the top dog over 1 or 2 generations but rather had to open up working class businesses, give it id say at least another 1 generation and u will see a lot more asian executives
When they mentioned "maybe people don't want to be led by an Asian person" I was just like... What the fuck? If you're in a company like that you should just get out.
When Nelly mentioned first that perhaps Asian people, especially those of early generations within the US, may have a different set of values that don't align with leadership roles in corporate America, I thought that might be a good point. Management and leadership culture in the US is very different than it is in East Asia. By no means am I saying they can't lead, but definitely it will become more and more about learning how to play the corporate game.
That being said, I'd like to see the numbers for representation of Asian-Americans as entrepreneurs. My guess is that it would be comparatively high.
Cao Cao, Liu Bei, Sun Quan and their men all lived and died at the wrong period in time.
I never got into this channel until today. Nice. Paradigm shift in such a way I can watch this through.
Yo, love you guys promoting and always showing love to the Asian community. I think though these kinds of questions play into the hands of how western culture wants us to be perceived. If we instead only speak about how we want to be seen, we can change the narrative. Keep up the great work Asian brothers. 💪
Thanks for sharing your opinion guys. I agree/disagree with some of your points but hey, that's what discussions are for, to throw stuff out there to take in and think about as anyone sees fit.
It's not easy to lump all problems into a top 10 list because issues IMHO needs to be prioritized based on what we're talking about. Problems in society doesn't always equate to issues professionally and I'm glad a part of that was discussed here. For example if we're discussing perception of Asians in society, is the matter supposed to be tackled by Asians themselves in order to help change/improve that perception or is it something where people who aren't Asian are supposed to change their (external) perception of Asians... I believe that it's not a person's race that needs to be factored, I'm a 1st Gen Asian in America and I don't look nor treat anyone based on their race. Each Asian is an individual and nobody's a clone of another person. The Fung Bros. are brothers, but they're very different individually even though they have the same mom and dad. I believe it's best to look at each person individually and not as any (racial) or societal group.
Respect, this is a tough one because it's not something as simple as "demanding" respect from anyone, even if you deserve it. I can't speak for all Asians but as for me I was always taught that respect (towards you) is something you can use to help determine who to associate with. Some people just don't reciprocate respect and we shouldn't adopt the thought or methods that we need to do anything more. So for example for those that are deserving, they get the best of me, for others, they get the bare minimum, but they all receive respect on some level from me.
Professional environment. I'm from Hawaii, so Asians make up one of the bigger groups here where white/black/hispanics comprise the minority groups. In my life (not saying this as a rule), my Asian coworkers tend to (but not always) adopt the idea of "I don't want any trouble". They see problems, they definitely talk about it, but in the end they don't want to get involved in it. The real question is, is this a problem for Asians. I think that it could in terms of perception from others that we may not be active enough to be more involved, however at the same time it could be where people simply want to do something, but not add-to the problem(s) potentially making things worse.
For our company, I was a tech, my immediate boss' position became vacant. I liked my boss as a person, he's originally from Virginia, he took on the persona like the grandpa that doesn't want to be the bad guy and tried to stay out of everyone's way and was very careful about not making anyone's feelings worse. However as a professional leader, I felt that he was way too soft, because of his personality, many noticed that some took advantage of that. I applied for the position and got it because I knew that as a tech, I had no ability to really implement much needed changes. If leadership was "adequate", I would be content being a tech, it's so much easier to just focus on what I enjoy doing. However my Army training prepared me to have the skills in order to apply different leadership techniques in order to achieve work goals and really move us collectively from A to B. One of the policies I fought for with our parent company was I preferred to not know the real name or sex of the applicant. The way it works is, HR would know their real information but for hiring purposes at my level, they're given a pseudo name and it's not revealed to me what sex they are.
Why did I do this? Because there's this idea that tech companies pander to hiring more men than women. I'm a strong believer that it's about individual merit, not your race, gender/sex, religion, political leaning, creed, sexual preference that matters. I care about your individual and professional attitude most, then your job skills in that order. If I'm going to lead, the simple fact is I need teammates that want to be led. That doesn't mean I don't want anyone to question me or have objections to my ideas and such. It simply means that we all need to realize the differences between the "discussion phase" and what needs to happen after a decision is made. Once any decision has been made, it's time to do our parts and make it happen. I don't care if I'm leading or someone else is. If my professional leader has made a decision where I'm not in full agreement with, it's time for me to suck it up and do my best in order to help the team succeed the best way I can.
to be fair. . . many Asian decent people are very shy and keep to themselves or within a group of Asians. There are a few exceptions. When i was in highschool the most popular guy that all the girls thought was cute was an Asian guy named Kevin. He was cool, nice and played the Saxophone.
Man these are deep.... I didn't expect it from this channel! Good one guys! I do struggle with these things too as a Canadian Asian too. Not sure about Asian woman getting more attention tho lol I think the bamboo ceiling is certainly something that affects so many people.. sighs.
Your the man, your the prize. Remember that. Workout, look good. Forget what people think about you. Just do your thing.
I do believe mental health is a topic that is avoided. It's unfortunate that society feels this way. I believe you have to be well rounded in every aspect : mentally, physically, spiritually. It takes time to look within and realize why you feel the way you do. I wish that society would talk more about mental health because it is so important in shaping the person that you are on the inside and the outside. You have to be strong in every sense to be able to rise above and let your light shine bright! Keep up the good work boys 💗
Great show, I love it. Keep it up, bros!
Thanks for doing this and bringing up issues that a lot of Asian American's face. I appreciate you guys stepping up and talking about things that are both relatable, and controversial for all Asian Americans. I'd love to see longer formats of videos like this
I feel like mental health not just in the Asian community but just in general, is a topic that everyone should shed more light on. So many people go through these struggles alone and sometimes don't even know that they're struggling. What you think is a phase isn't always a phase. I hate how society makes victims to mental health, feel like they are the odds one out, that they are the different ones that can't fit in, when in reality we all at one point are mentally ill.
Humans are at the top of the food chain but we are still vulnerable, not always to predators but to our own thoughts. I hope that one day mental health can be normalize so that those that are silently suffering, become comfortable and reach out to those around them and simply tell them that "they are not okay, and need help."
CmUsIc4U especially since mental health is heavily impacted when people migrate to a new country, and then try to assimilate as immigrants.
I'm not even Asian American, but I'm American, and I feel like it's important to see other American's perspectives so I appreciate this video.
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I didn’t skip any of the ads so you guys could get coin for this video! Super great content you’ve been putting out that is SO important in the Asian community and wider POC community in general. Keep it up! Be subscribed to you guys for quite some time and I’m impressed with the direction of your channel!
Interesting discussion. I was unaware of issues facing your group because it is not vocalize as much as others.
I took over a department for the company i work for. I was overlooked 4 times before i finally had to go into my second interview and they were making all sorts of excuses not to give me the position. I finally got pissed and said " alright guys lets cut the bullshit here this will be the 5th time i get overlooked do i really have to make a phone call this time? .. Long story short they finally gave me the position and I did in 8 months what none of those other 4 supervisors did in 11 years. One of the presidents of Sony came to Florida to meet me because he wanted to know what I was doing to sell their TV's. I was number one in the country for a company with over 527 warehouses in the US. Do you think they even said anything to me? ... and after i brought it to their attention all they said was " oh good job" .... yes we do get overlooked all the time.
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This video is lit. I love it! Do more of these videos!
Excellent discussion and about time someone brought these points up. Well done.
Excellent observation and good analysis ! Could not have said it better myself.
Big thumbs up 👍 agree with a lot of the issues you guys mentioned
I think a lot of the issues mentioned are things that all People of Color community’s deal with. I think we’re all dealing with a lot of the same struggle in different yet similar ways. Great conversation 👏🏾🙌🏾
Great video. Y'all definitely covered some real issues that are happening in the Asian American community.
This was very interesting and entertaining to watch. Learned some things I didnt know.
You 3 kept it real. Thanks for the video
Love the content. HPBs for life!
I have noticed there is definitely a huge issue of avoidance when it comes to mental health within the Asian community. Specifically in the Philippines, people often only just say, “leave it to God” “just be happy” “you can do it” or any other variation that stresses positivity without addressing actual mental health issues/social problems. It doesn’t solve any problems it just continues a cycle of a lack of self-awareness, denial and inability to fix any thing that ought to be examined.
Asians are shallow like that.
This is also an issue in Black and Brown communities.
in these crazy times, I've learned to develop a strong sense of compassion for the fellow person, whether it be black, brown, female, and white male. If you think about it they are all going through the same problems of hardship, racism, acceptance, and struggle. It definitely puts things into perspective.
Lumi .......you’re contributing to the problem. Same as flat-earthers and anti-Vaxxers.
Lumi Lumi I agree that not _everyone_ needs to be medicated. But it is an option that is useful for many.
There is a whole field of neurology that has researched the brain and how it works. There does exist chemical imbalances. There is a difference between depression the mood and depression the clinical sort. I recommend “The Upward Spiral” it does take a lot of things into account not just medicating.
It does help some. But beyond this-I was talking more about the issue of not taking mental health seriously-you agree that therapy is a good solution, the issue is that even getting therapy is insanely (perfect/ironic word choice) taboo within Asian communities.
I love this content. Keeping it real
Thank-you for talking about it. It needs to be said and discussed.
I've noticed this in my job. The ones that do get promoted are the ones that voice their opinions that speak out. But in a way that goes against what I've been taught growing to be quite and just do the work.
David seems pretty informed and has well-formulated opinions. Interesting conversation!
Thank you for bringing this topic to the forefront
I love how you discuss the problem but also present solutions and also accept fault in some cases, not just complaining and blaming others.
I'm Black but I recently realised a lot of the stuff in my childhood was very stereotypically "Asian", my parents always tell me to be a doctor even though I told them a million times I want to be a scientist, growing my made me do Kumon and other math and school workbooks, and my parents where migrants,( from the country to the city.)
it's more of the immigrant mentality, wanting the best for your child, getting a high paying job, etc.
@@brifo3394 guess you do got a point
Black people from Africa (Nigeria) can relate to Asian kids. Their parents want them to do well in school and be successful.
@@macbitch2825 From the Caribbean too. Education isn't free and life is hard there, so they always urge their kids to keep their heads up.
Things like complaining but doing nothing about I believe are common among many people, but I hope it gets better as we progress together as a country.
Congrats on the 2 million subscribers! Keep up the good work. Both of you are doing great.
Real talk! Great conversation, very relatable.
It's all about that respect, money, and saving face in Asian culture.
and family. Respecting your elder is big in Asia
So Asian culture invented public relations? That's another thing western culture stole from Asian culture. Good to know.
Maybe it needs to be more about living your best life
I think this podcast should be a lot longer. It felt like a lightning round of topics when each of these topics could be expanded on. The bamboo ceiling and leadership issues are a big topic on itself. David is correct that there is some racism involved. When Asians get put into leadership positions there is almost immediate open disrespect like I've never seen with people eye rolling, sighing, or saying essentially "we're fucked", this is something that I haven't witnessed with non-Asians. People also seem to immediately question and challenge your authority thinking themselves better and perhaps not doing their part so you fail and they blame you later even though it's them not picking up the slack. Worse is that other Asians sometimes back these opinions up, perhaps thinking they'll fit in and get promoted or some favor for being a "team player".
Something I personally notice is that sometimes in a Asian minority work space, Asians are expected to fit into some particular box made for them, and if they don't they get ostracized. If an Asian doesn't fit in or attempts at befriending co workers is rejected, that'll hurt their chances of getting a leadership role as well.
edit: I'd prefer white/Asian hapa's id as both, but it's ultimately up to them. I just know that if they id soley as white even though obviously mixed, it's a warning sign for Asian hate and possibly white supremacy.
@@tannerwilson4843 simu liu, Albert hur, kei from Asian boss, Eddie Huang, and of course more andrew yang but that's probably gonna be hard mode. It'd be nice to have female asian activists too but idk any by heart right now.
@@tannerwilson4843 Honestly mental health is a field where Asians as psychologists are barely represented. I almost am inspired to be one, my only issue is thinking I'm not mentally stable enough myself to be one.
edit: I think with more Asian psychiatrists, Asians might be more open to seeing them as they wouldn't feel like they are unloading baggage to someone else that might use it against them.
You sound like you watch too many tiktok videos
Hey Fung Bros! Nice video! It's 2020 now, I was wondering are we still facing this problem?
Appareciate what yall are doing for the community man!
More videos like this please!
This could be a two hour podcast and I would listen to it
Love this vid man, as an Asian in North America I see my community struggle with these problems all the time
Just came across your videos tonight and OMG, you guys are awesome! Gotta catch up on your videos. 👍
Ok, here's a bit of a PSA for you
True masculinity does not come from how "alpha" one is
True masculinity comes from one simple thing - being a man, over a boy
What separates a man from a boy?
Maturity in thinking, deliberation in speech
A sense of responsibility, not just for yourself, but for others around you as well
The confidence to know that you don't always have all the answers, and it's OK
All those boys huffing and puffing, beating their chest, are exactly what they are - boys pretending to be men
Look at Putin
He speaks in a very even tone, he does not seek to "exert dominance" with his body language or gesture - one can even almost describe him as soft spoken
Yet not one is ever going to say that he isn't masculine
There is no point in trying to imitate someone else's speech pattern or body language - masculinity originates your mind, not what you do with your voice or body gestures
Of all the people on the planet to use an example for masculinity....Putin?! He's a total fucktard and he is the definition of a man-child, or toxic masculinity. He's a bully, not a leader. The ultimate example of perfect masculinity? Kim Namjoon from BTS. He's respectful to women, he's brilliant, creative, well spoken, gentle, and hot as hell! That is an awesome example of a man! PLUS he's actually Asian.
Putin is such TERRIBLE example...he literally ordered the army to take over Crimea and killed innocent Ukrainians...
Great context of issues within the Asian community. Love the content and keep pioneering a way for us asians to make waves of our own.
You guys are really cool! Your videos really enlighten me!! Bless you all!!
Thank you for making this video. These are topics that weigh my mind too. It's nice hearing you guys have this discussion especially for someone who, like Nelly, is token in my community/geo location. More Asians in politics to change dialogue and more Asians in entertainment to stop stereotype portrayals/give us voices + identity.
Interesting hearing the parallels in the Asian and Black community.. I find it really refreshing that these conversations are being had and that PoC are creating spaces for themselves. Now all we need to do is not center it around "whiteness"
Well, uh, white people wanted pocs to have your own spaces in older times, but y'all wanted to get on the white people success.
Being compared as currency exchange by David had me dying. I have no idea what he’s talking about, but it’s hilarious! 😂
love the fact that fung bros are bringing up topics like this. because this is the front line for the fight for our culture and image in the western world. keep it up, make the mainstream media uncomfortable enough to bring up topics like this to mainastream.
Always great to at least get these conversations started, 10 years ago when I first thought about some of these issues no one was really taking about them at least not outside of small social circles. A lot of AA population still don't talk about it. At least we are making some progress. How can we fix issues in the AA community if we don't even start a conversation? Thanks Fung Bros!
Bro's here's what I did, I'm from Seattle but in 1995 I moved to Kuala Lumpur Malaysia and never looked back. I'm probably the only Asian American that I know of living here. I feel at home being in a place where I look asian. My wife is Chinese and now everyone thinks I'm a Chinaman. Go figure I love it.
They even make a white kid to play the Avatar ^o^
Like how the majority people in God's of "EGYPT" were white lol. The one Brown Egyptian God in the trailer was cowering in a corner, da faq lol. They don't realize we don't care about about that crap and if they go that route, it's their own destruction because there's only one true God.
@Ioulum jews/Jewish are white there from Europe
Great topics and insight. Thank you for sharing. I'm not asian, however, every culture faces challenges. As we take the time to learn from each other and consider others points of view, this allows us to grow and gain respect for each other. We all bring something beautiful to this world and there is enough love to go around.
Great topics! Lots of food for thought!
Learned a new phrase, “Bamboo Ceiling”. That struggle is real!
No shit america is amjority white. You do know therrs a celing for whites back in china also right?
Mister KentC it’s a Great Book too!
Fallacious comparison bro. America is multicultural and not a nation state. China is not the same.
This is a super important subject. I have been living in the states for decades and I have ssen other minority groups make great strides in attaining fairness for themselves but I swear, Asians are still stuck 40 years behind in gaining respect from the majority white class and blacks too now. Too important for just comments below....You guys should of got like some socialologist or some influencer/ actor to give answers and opinion to awaken the Asian community.
I feel more Asian males need to work in the media and on being leaders rather than train to be good worker bees. Also, Asian guys should date white and other girls who are not only asian to expand their self and get out of their shell.....I could go on an on. Remember they will NEVER give you the fairness you deserve as a a minority group unless you demand and fight for it. Just look at the black community and what they had to do to get equal rights. And their still fighting hard for it. We need too also.
Great video!!!
How am I just finding out about this channel. Awesome topic you guys. I've been black my whole life, but I've felt like Asians definitely shared some of the uphill battles Blacks do even though there seems to be this aura that we are so different. Brilliant.
Great video! Great topics! This is why I became a full-time menswear and travel influencer to represent the asian community! I am an immigrant from Hong Kong moving to NYC at age of 10. A few years ago I quit my finance job because I didn't feel like it was worth all the hard work to get a promotion and started a side hustle of a fashion and travel blog in pursuit of a creative outlet. Representation matters so much! I feel it everytime I'm at an event and I'm the ONLY asian in there.
I was a typical Asian introvert. I realized my short comings and what I needed to do to become a strong and confident man. Went and enlisted in the Army. Best decision ever made.
great podcast! keep it up.
Really dope discussion on Asian American issues, great vid!
I feel like the tides are turning though- at least in America. I have a few Asian male friends that are absolutely killing it with the ladies these days. Multiple women have asked me who they are too and followed it up with something like "who is your friend? He is beautiful...I LOVE Asian men."
I've only noticed this happening for them in the past couple of years, so that's a great sign.
I suspect you and your friends are sub-millenial/Gen Z - the "woke" generation. Honestly, I know very little about them. All I know is that they have shitty taste in music, e.g., K-Pop, BTS, etc. And they are largely over the whole toxic masculinity thing and are open to different expressions of gender and racial norms. Hence, that is my theory for greater acceptance of Asian males among sub-millenial/Gen Zers.
As an asian guy I’ve been telling people this.I’m not even that young, I’m in my late 20s but the younger women totally dig asian guys for some reason. I’ve gotten looks I never did get in the early 2000s, and have gotten laid more within the last 4 years than I ever did the 20 years before that.
Thanks to kpop lol
I am blasian and married an asian man. It annoys me when people think I have k wave yellow fever. From all sides. And they still mistake my mom for his. Really🧘🏽♀️
lol
Funny.
This funny and strangely cute.
That's light hearted, I mean its not too bad. I used to have people confusing my mum as my girlfriend... I mean they made my mum so happy
lol... my cousin is half Cape Verdean and they don’t my Aunt is her mom.
Good job. Keep it up, you have my support.
It's great to set your views in these topics and find out smart you each are through your answers.
I 100% agree with leadership aspect. I've been to soo many professional development seminars in legal, financial and now in the education space and there's very few asians in middle and upper management. Whenever I do see one its refreshing and unsurprisingly we get along really well lmao. Not sure what it is but it is a matter of fact regarding leadership though.
Lee Vo - Trader & Investor definitely agree with you but I think a lot of it has to do with timing. leadership positions usually have a ton of experience. Let’s say a CEO has 20 years worth of experience at a company. Heck 20 years ago a good chunk of us weren’t even in America yet. I think as time goes by and we’ve been here for even longer we’ll see some of the younger/first gen Asians develop that experience and gain leadership roles versus Americans who have worked and lived in America their whole life
@@davis2145 Preach brother, we on the come up :D
leader controls people. We need more people skills
BIG Homie w the cap is light years ahead of everybody
I liked, subscribed, and left ya a damn comment just now. Happy? Great job, guys.
This video is very educational and eye opening
I am half Korean and it's hard everyone pushes me around so I have to be the one to yell at them. This is a serious problem we need to fix. I tell my parents and they tell me to study because "sense I'm Asian I have to study 24-7" #realifeproblems
As a Filipino American earning their master's in social work, I LOOOVE this video.
I really enjoy you Fung fellows
Nice commentary...appropriate, relevant and thoughtful musings. Asian Australian here and I have to say we have the same issues over here. Most asians move to big cities and live in their own communities and circles. Some bridge the gap to a limited degree. The ones who grow up in regional communities end up being self-conscious self-haters. I don't have the answer but I think the world is slowly becoming a more accepting place. Have had a number of girls of all races show great interest but it's so inconsistent it throws you off. True, i get the feeling it's harder to become a leader as an asian. There's a sense of protectionism and nationalism about offering prime positions and submitting to another race...this is probably true in many asian countries as well, unfortunately, but at least in most asian countries the foreigner is celebrated. What is most frustrating is that image of the Asian man being subordinate, non-masculine, imbalanced...perpetuated without relief. The Asian woman is seen as desirable, and media these days will throw in a pretty asian girl as a token of diversity, while no balanced role will be offered the asian male. This means to live here as an asian male, you may be a valuable addition to society at best, but can rarely assume an alpha role....nor can you expect to be given every same social, sexual, or professional opportunity. There is most definitely a figurative glass ceiling and an occasional sense of "outside looking in" when you find yourself in a career or community that is caucasian-dominated, as an asian male. It is what it is and in 10-20 years more it may improve :/ People here still believe true diversity means co-existence and an equal vote. True diversity lies in equal inclusion.
Great video!
The problem with leadership in western society is that there is a particular perception of what leadership is which is that of the qualities of a white male. I'm quite fortunate as a young Asian female to be in a leadership role and as a member of the executive team but the initial perceptions of me when I got the job was that I wasn't a "strong" leader. This lasted a few years and now I have the highest performing team in the organisation. I have not changed my leadership style but I have a very different way of managing people that goes against society's expectations of a traditional leader.
In terms of women getting more attention than men, the unfortunate thing is that there's a complete fetishisation of Asian women and there are a lot of creepy men out there. Some men want to date Asian women because of their disgusting ideas about Asian bodies and sexuality.
With the half Asian thing, it often is white people who decide the authenticity of someone which needs to change. This is going to become a much larger thing with more Asian women with white men and how their sons perceive themselves. Adding to the way Asian men are perceived, half-Asian boys often see that a lot of Asian women choose white men (within particular groups - not every group) and they themselves are Asian giving them a lot of insecurity when their own families and groups don't value Asian men which is really sad.
I loved this video but please go into greater depth!
Jacob Chen Agreed!!
The stereotypes that Asian women are super sexual and that Asian men are nonsexual both serve the notion that White men are superior and more virile. That is precisely why White men perpetuate those stereotypes. Likewise, the relative absence of lesbian Asian women in media and the disproportionate overrepresentation of gay Asian men also reinforce the notion of White males’ heterosexual primacy.
Aloha from Hawai'i...I am Hawaiian/Chinese living in Hawai'i and here we have a lot of Asian people living here and most people that own companies here is Asian. But sadly most of the companies that has been around for years close down because their children don't want to take over. Anyways not like in the states here in Hawai'i mostly everybody is part Asian FOREAL....Aloha bradaz good job!!!!
I enjoy these videos more than your older ones. Perhaps, because you guys have grown more mature and are able to discuss topics in more depth. I really like how the guy with the bun said we need to take responsibility and admitted that most Asians do need to work on their leadership skills.
I just recently subscribed to ur channel, u guys are great....helping an old dude like me stay informed with the latest issues and things happening around town.....but best of all...we have the same surname!! LOL...
Keep it up guys!!
first thing to remember is to love yourself first! From there be the best person u can be! Third don’t let any external forces like Hollywood and mainstream media tell you what you are and what u can’t do! It’s up to us to educate society and ignorance on who we truly are!
If you wanna be accepted, you NEED to accept and defend each other! ✊🙏🏼🙆🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️✌️
Bullshit
Exactly and stop kissing white people's ass
Exactly~ Stop self-hating and back each other up under ALL CIRCUMSTANCES!!!
@GreaterGood510 lol bruh that so true. Like Immortal Technique says you can look like them but you ain't one of them
Imma say this is motivating af!!
I think its all about being "ashamed" of showing your 'weakness' when it comes to seeking help. Its embeded in our culture to have pride to be 'strong' and 'smart' and yet...staying humble...not an easy combo!
I think much of the problem with Asian masculinity/leadership has its roots in piss-poor Asian parenting-that Confucian ideology that brutalizes basic adult human rights and tendencies such as having an opinion, speaking up for yourself, not being shamed for being unique, standing apart from the herd and being a pioneer, or learning the art and the SUPREME manly skill of good argumentation in your formative years through regular dialogue/discussions with your parents rather than having violence inflicted on you or the threat of violence if you don’t shut up and simply comply, etc etc. The list is endless. If we could fix that, I think 95% of Asian masculinity problems could be addressed. As the maxim goes, “Give me a child for his first seven years and I'll give you the man"
Agreed. Parents need to realize that in the US kids cannot be typically Asian. They are simply not in an Asian environment.
Another thing is I think sometimes Asian shyness or their state of being reserved can be confused for Asian disinterest and selfishness.
But some aspects of Asian parenting (i.e. the uncompromising push for academic excellence) are arguably what make Asians so successful. If they weren't like that, you'd have a bunch of middle-aged Asians rotting in their parents' basements trying to become DJs, artists, and philosophers
I've never read a part of 孔夫子‘s philisophy that says parents should be violent to their children for disobedience. I mean I know Asian parents are stereotypically known for hitting their children, but I never got that off of Confucius' philosophy. Below is one of his thoughts:
Only when things are investigated is knowledge extended; only when knowledge is extended are thoughts sincere; only when thoughts are sincere are minds rectified; only when minds are rectified are the characters of persons cultivated; only when character is cultivated are our families regulated; only when families are regulated are states well governed; only when states are well governed is there peace in the world.
If anything it sounds like he promoted truth and openness between family members. Just saying, I'm not sure if Confucius is the reason why there are some piss poor asian parents.
Agreed. While I love my parents, the truth is that some of the traditional asian values that they taught are simply getting outdated in the modern world. We asians need to step up and adapt!
Yo this is great stuff! 100% all minorities can relate to this on some level.
Thanks a lot!! I needed to see this bruh. I'm slumped from being under the bamboo ceiling plus I am American Asian.
I’m Mexican American and feel Ya. We got mad love for you guys.