growing up in the 80's and 90's as an Asian-North American we were definitely treated that way. I'm a little younger than John Cho, but remember all the remarks my older brothers and myself received. We were even subject to people spitting on us just because we were asian. Hard truths of growing up in that environment.
I'm white, I have to say asian guys suffered the most though. Asian girls get their compensation by marrying white men and enjoying white privilege, so they didn't suffered much.
During that time as well Asian men from China or Japan would be above Asian American men to add insult to injury. Love my action films but John Cho broke the barrier where Asian American men can be seen as regular American kids like in American Pie and do not have to be a mixed martial artist or a non-speaking role.
x100. I remember growing up in San Jose and Santa Clara and it was kind of rough. The Hispanics and the Caucasians hated Asians the most. When I try to tell Asians who are a generation or two that are younger than I, its like they seem to think I'm crazy. They never experienced the type of racism my generation faced and I'm glad they did not, but that feeling is still there somewhere inside of me.
I had a more unorthodox Asian dad. He came here with his family as a kid and got bullied so bad he basically encouraged me to fight back if things got violent. Weird to know a Buddhist that wants you to hit people. He literally put me into Tae Kwon do and karate specifically to fight and not because of the whole discipline thing. How our parents were raised has a big influence on our views towards these issues.
Your dad knows the school system. They ain’t going to do shit unless hands were thrown. Might as well be the one throwing hands and get suspended than be the one getting bully to death.
Similar feeling my friend, Dad told me to be deadly no matter what due to his personal experiences. Sent me right to Muay Thai and Krav Maga classes at 13 to make sure I can do damage when necessary. So far fortunately, never had to use it, and I hope that day never comes. World is a pretty fucked up place right now, which doesn't help at all.
My mom was the same way. My dad was always worried about my permanent record, but after I got bullied bad my mom said fuck it, fight back and don't hold back either. After winning a few fights, people stopped messing with me.
Being born and growing up here as an American Asian Hmong male and being educated was and still is very hard. There are many managers in the workforce not wanting an Asian American Male to advance in thier career vs others, even with the same skill set, degree and intellect level. It's effing sad and it's effing unfair. Still, I will fight in the shade and eventho I am American, I am Proud AF to be Asian!!!
As a non Asian, I agree about the observation that Asians always seem to compete with one another and never elevate. I follow black and Latino podcasts like the Platica and I notice that when those people come up, they always give back to the community and impart advice to be successful. It always seems that Asians always try to gatekeep success from each other which seems rather hoarder like and gives off that lack of camaraderie you mentioned
I agree with John Cho. I grew up with it. I'm first generation immigrant coming to America as a child in 1973. I grew up feeling ashamed. I believed being an enlisted soldier and later an infantry officer would give me a sense of acceptance. No matter how much good I tried to do, I hit alot of resistance. It wasn't until I moved to Japan (due to a job transfer) that I actually had pride of my background. This generation I feel has it better with the current technology and education. All that I can do is to move forward and advance. Always advance.
As a prior enlisted military officer, your words have a point. Service does provide some prestige and benefit, but resistance still exists due to racial minority status.
I’m the same age as John Cho and of course that stigma was always there in media. Unfortunately Asian women were complicit with it too at times (eg Joy Luck Club). As adults though, we had to just focus on our lives. Yes, there can be needle movers like Bruce Lee, but in our everyday realities, we can only focus on being the best husbands, fathers, friends, leaders, workers we can be. We can move the needle in our own personal ways. Just live life. Im a big lifelong boxing fan and I like to train on the heavy bag at the gym. I just love it and don’t think about anything else. Maybe others around me may think, “Damn, that Asian dude is destroying that heavy bag!” LOL, just live life and let things take care of themselves.
Really like the point that some Asians don't seem to want to acknowledge some of the struggles. Not talking about it doesn't make you above it. And it certainly prevents you from facing it.
Sorry about the long rant, but this is really crazy for me to hear. I'm 52 and totally understand what John Cho is talking about. I grew up in and live in SoCal, but in areas I was the only or one of a handful of Asian guys (yes....very different for guys and girls) everywhere I grew up and in the 70's and 80's. I've always been tall and "look very Korean" so I couldn't blend in and realized I couldn't so I tried even more to stand out and I did. Playing sports, being a student and community leader helped, but I still grew up pretty angry and ready to lash out which I did many times. Two things really changed my perspective and outlook. One, all of the Korean guys fighting other Korean guys I saw during college in the early 90's; which just made me laugh and something I never wanted to be a part of, which my Korean friends didn't understand and now being a dad and my sons being shocked at my road rage up until only a few years ago....I am still embarrassed when they joke about a certain over-the-top incident they remember when they were toddlers and that really made me reflect. Growing up how I did and seeing the stupidity of Koreans fighting other Koreans and also being a dad has calmed me down. Of course there's God, my amazing wife, and now a daughter so there's a ton of blessings. I'm a "legit" 6'1" always weigh between 208 and 212 pounds and fit. I'm in the best shape of my life, exercising & training with my teenage boys and another funny thing is that the stronger I get and the more training in martial arts, I get calmer and calmer each day. Thanks for your content and insight Fung Bros...you guys are great!
I'm actually much more in the mood for a global Asian male led payback against racists who are still running their mouth. This aszzzwhooping is gonna multigenerational and a full century long affair. Count on it.
I definitely see your point of view. But at the same time it's 2023. I've been seeing so many more non Asian women coming forward with their love for Asian guys or at least being more open minded along with a stronger presence in the media if that counts for anything. Agreed, we are underrated but we just have to keep our chins high and move forward. My only critique to my fellow Asian brothers is that I've seen quite a few who don't put enough effort into how they look and expressing themselves.
I’m an Asian man. African American girls always showed me love in grade school to high school. (I grew up in the 80s-90s.) I was a band nerd too and got really messed up feeling so emasculated. I spent the past 10 years living outside of the USA mostly in SE Asia; my experiences there have helped me regain the confidence I never had growing up in Tallahassee, Florida. (At that time there were 300 kids in my school and 4 Asians.) But what’s funny is that most of the high end consumer brands advertising in Asia feature white men and Asians associate that with better quality. But yea I think it can be eye opening for Asian American men to go have some experiences in Asian countries. I also spent 5 years pursing acting in LA (2007-2012) and noticed even the asian men auditioning at the time was very competitive too. But I left because the roles I was going out for felt so emasculating. In fact I booked more jobs when I was fat and nerdy. I think having this clenched fist and deep resentments for being so emasculated can be a strong motivator to finally decide to stop taking sh*t from people. But at same time I am very much aware of an inferiority complex that has made me behave in some cowardly ways as well. Anyways thanks for talking about these issues. I never had anyone to simply reflect my experiences back to me as a kid and I think podcasts like this can help a young asian American kid somewhere feel less alone. 🙏✨🙌
Great take! Scarlet letter feels harsh but agree directionally. Asian American dude def need to work together more. I don’t often feel like other AA guys are my opponents but also don’t feel the support. So more the absence of support than the direct opposition
at my work accidental racism is so annoying. My boss knew I was Vietnamese but paired me with a chinese women because she assumed we spoke the same language. And when I told her we spoke different languages from completely separate language families she looked super confused.
We fear being rejected because we know we cannot exist alone - however, the level of independence and dependency is different for each of us. The more self sufficient and capable a person is the less we fear being rejected because we know how valuable we are. The question is then - Why do I need you? Why should I care what you think? Or why should you care what I think? In the long run how sustainable am I? As I have gotten older I have learnt that physical and mental health must be the core of any sustainable position that can established. Without your health or without mental compentency - there can be no sustainable position.
Also it helps when you follow Asian media and help the Asian communities in the US. Follow everyone who is Asian American (ones who are destroying the stereotypes) and strive to be that. Social media is what changes the mind of people who are into it.
it helps but it shouldn’t be your whole perspective. being in a bubble is good and bad. can’t just rely on identity. you need humility, anger and peace as well as perspective and growth. looking at asian media can be as bad as it is good
yeah..... I was in high school in the ghetto in the late 80's . I used my energy studied for the SAT's and aced my regents to go to school upstate and felt like heaven
The problem is, how exactly do you justify or enforce your "should"? Do you think just stating something like this like it's self-evident will be enough for the majority of people to resist these feelings, especially when acting out on them can give you a short-term dopamine rush? With how certain things are trending, there are going to be a lot of people who are going to put a lot of thought into how to manipulate people by playing to these feelings; if you think people are just going to "get" what you're saying, I would disabuse yourself of that notion as soon as you can manage. What's at stake is an everyday life where you're not constantly worrying about your car getting flipped over or your house getting burnt down. By the way, if you couldn't tell, I'm not just talking about Asians here.
the fact of the matter is that the most powerful nations/societies in the world today got to where they are through both self-improvement and aggressive conquest and exploitation of other nations to expedite their self-improvement even further. Asian-American men will never rise to the top of the food chain until they are willing to mercilessly tear out their competitor's throat. You are naive and foolish if you think otherwise.
We can do both. I refuse to tolerate any racist double standards that Asians are expected to adhered to but white tr_sh are not. Don't be an a-hole if you don't want to be spanked. Punishment is always controlled by someone else.
Or build our global facing media companies to serve the global majority that is Asian with the largest consumer bases and fastest growing purchasing power. Why settle for North America when we can have the world? 😊
Years ago, I met him before the Harold & Kumar movies. He didn't have much personality and was working at the time with the East West Players in L.A.. I guess he can be more selective with the roles he takes now. While some asian actors like Mike Hagiwara are still struggling in his '60s.
Love what y'all do, but you y'all need to turn down the politeness and turn up the hard truth. All this beating around the bush and playing mediator doesn't resonate with the audience.
Nawl they are on target, they have to play mediator to bring the topics up because there is no one filling that gap, another channel or group should take it and run with the hard truth afterward. Topic needs to beintroduced softly or mainstream media will be dismissive
I’m from Boston I’ve been playing ice hockey all my life not so I got in a fight almost every day went to army but I don’t remember nobody really challenge me face to face. My background is 100% Mongolian.
Yes, us growing up in and around gangs or were athletes always stood up for ourselves and set a good example of how to own your ethnicity. As a result there was very little racial tension around me nor internalised racism, there was respect, and we could date out of race. It's even easier now compared to the 90s, early 00s. Sure your race/culture is still a talking point but you can feel the vibe when they are trying to celebrate your difference rather than otherize you. Don't take offence and share it with pride. I recommend Asian men learn to be a little less humble or reserved even just jokingly. It's not the way to connect or garner respect in the West. They'll just think you're cold and distant.
As an Chinese American man, I can feel for any asian American man who lived in racist western worlds. Also asian mindset is to just hold everything in and forget about it. Just saying, that shit don’t work in western countries. Be more vocal about it and be more up front. It’s the only way to have change. It might be hard and awkward to do due to the Eastern Brain and the Western Brain colliding in all of us Asian men, but just gotta go for it. Be advocate and support one another. It’s the only way
Doesn't it get easier depending where you live like in San Francisco it's easy to be Asian probably but if you move to whiteyville they'll pick on you also people pick on people that stand out or are the outlier because it's easier
I didn’t even have to think about what people think of me..I stand my ground and maintain masculinity. I guess Asian are known to be educated..but how about educated and looking jacked and maintain masculinity?
this video really hit the spot its so sad how much asian men are bullied and pushed in this society and its very consistent and constant thing.... I will give you an example.... just look at my screen name, I had to change it because I used to use my Asian name, and any comment I make, lets say I say DUNE is a great movie! Right away some A hole would comment, did you even understand the movie? is Dune even allowed in CHINA? If I just say Game of Thrones is really good.... right away its bullying comments... shut up you lonely asian nerd you just watch Game of Thrones to whack off to Emilia Clark. This is just a small example, I can go on and on and on.... its consistent from the moment I wake up till I close my eyes at night. And I feel bad for my Asian brothers.... life sucks life aint great for you/us.
Being angry is never the answer. Its unfortunate circumstances (coming from an African American Black woman) but you really just have to put in the work to make peoples opinions change from our pasts and what has happened to our Ancestors. Like you boys The Hot Pot Boys thats why I LOVE and watch Fung Bros because its sooooooo different and insightful the stuff I like and LOVE coming from marginalized people just like me =)) LOVE YOU BOYS CONTINUE WITH THE GREAT WORK CANT WAIT TO SEE MORE FROM YOU ALL!!!!! =D
Naw they are working well together behind the scenes, if you go on certain Financial or investing forums for certain high income market areas, many asians are sharing advice and anaylsis and discussing social topics and keeping each other updated. But its generally the rich asians, but i sneak in there and taketheir knowledge haha
I'm asian but I am racially ambiguous. I have deep set eyes, which most other Asian guys do not have. I'm tan too and people confuse me for Mexican all the time. Many Asians don't see me as asian and don't wanna associate with me. I've tried so many asian meet ups or groups at my university and they just don't like to hang out with me. I get along better with white or Mexican people... even black people love me
i feel you dude. im a brown south east asian and most east asians (yellow asians) dont f** with me all the time even though i try. I can relate to most things with them on a cultural standpoint because of my upbringing. tbh east asians have used up the umbrella term of being 'ASIAN' so much to the point that people only associate 'ASIANS' with east-asian-looking-people and never think or associate all the other ethnicities within it. to the point that it kinda messes things up for the rest of us from a social standpoint. i get it. getting very specific of what kind of asian you are can be a bit much. but i feel like it would indirectly educate other races about how eclectic and diverse we all are.
Ya bro I have way more Mexican, Black, & American friends than East Asian friends. I am half Lao & Half Chinese & I am brown as hell. I got Filipino my whole life growing up! I would say we got it easy since we don't look like the typical yellow light skin Asians. Assimilating to American culture might have been easier on our end. My half brother is full Chinese since my pops remarried & his life was School & now JUST work. Socializing with other races was something my brother did NOT do & he is now 22, Civil Engineer for the City if LA. He did grow up in Alhambra so the diversity wasn't really there. His whole life was competing against other Chinese kids going to weekend school, Chinese school, Piano lessons etc. None of those activities allows for Social Skill building which Asian parents think is a waste of time haha. I would say the Asian bro's that grew up from the 70's & 80's got it way worse compared to 90's - present
In America, it's good to be racially ambiguous because the ignorant racists can't call you name, they don't attack you, not knowing exactly which Asian group you belong. For East Asians, they are suffer more from discriminations based on their unique look, especially in COVID era. For you, you can blend in with the rest. But East Asians, it is tough for us. I live in the States for 40 yrs, I've seen and experienced a lot of subtle discriminations and full force discriminations. For personal safety standpoint, you are better off to look racially ambiguous. If you comes with a positive attitude, I embrace you. Some Asians are introvert and it depends on the personality, it's not the matter if they like you or not. Try to approach them with a friendly attitude, then go from there. They might feel threaten by some folks due to the historical oppressions and discriminations, they put on a defensive mode. Keep trying with your sunshine attitudes, you'll gain friends from East Asians groups.
@@de7uz Imagine being racially ambigous lightskin, like I get mistaken for puerto rican alot, its the ultimate cheat code, thugs think you are a cuzzo, cops think your somones kid, employers see the white name lightskin easily hired. All women wants the D, ayyeeee (im spanish filipino white)
Fung Bros make some great points. When you’re born and raised in America, you are American. I’m as American as anyone else, we say. I’m as American as apple pie, we proclaim. We feel entitled to the same treatment as white Americans because we’re “basically white,” many say. But this entitled outlook will only lead to disappointment and identity issues. Why? Because we aren’t seen as white by Caucasians. This is a hard truth for many Asian Americans to accept. Might as well respect the heritage while embracing being American. You will be more confident and comfortable in you own skin.
Both nailed it right there at around 10:08. Friends are chosen family. This is something straight-cis folks, esp men can learn from the queer community. If your family is not supportive, they’re toxic, they compare you to others and don’t value you for you - build your own supportive community. Real friends, in real life. Also, contrary to what most Asian cultures think, *strong people go to therapy.* It takes courage to address head on what is making you angry/depressed/hateful/spiteful than to repress it or spew hate in online forums and comments. All the best everyone
Be so good they cannot ignore you. Throughout history men are measured by what they can do. Use their bs comments and slights as fuel to push yourself harder.
But is that worth it for the average guy when Asian women are choosing white guys anyways? Congrats you’re exceptional but most Asian guys are just going to struggle. imo
Many are good but still ignored. Asians have high academic achievement, but get ignored by some Ivy League schools. Asians often get passed over for promotion at their post-college jobs because employers see them as laborious, but not leaders.
As an Asian male that has been shamed from both side of the American and Asian. I have decided to just be proud of me without the need of a label to bee in a "group". so, I'd appreciate it if you didn't shame people for chosing to not identity strongly just b/c of the color of my skin.
Korean here born in Argentina and raised in Brazil. Same age as John. I 1000% relate with with him. Been bullied my whole life. At one point, it's gotten so bad in school that I snapped, kicked the bully between his legs so hard, one of his testicles busted, needless to say he's incapable of fathering a child and got myself expelled from middle school, my father neither condemned or congratulate me. The kids parents sued my parents and paid $1200 as medical and reparations, this was in the 80's, back then$1200 was a lot of money, even for 3rd country standards. Am I sorry??? Sometimes...will I encourage my 11 boy to stand his ground? Absofuckinglutely. Iused bebcalled chinito and jap every day in case you're curious...
I am Asian but I think you went to far. No need to kick in the nuts. Only weak people kick the nut. Fight like a man if u want to, not kick the private part. SMH.
As an Asian-Canadian guy who is average in pretty much every respect (5'9, 60k/year income, in shape but not built, etc.). I overall do quite well. I'm a homeowner, married to a wife most ppl find attractive, a father to a young daughter, stable finances, etc. Maybe things are harder on Asian guys in the US compared to Canada, but I don't really feel opressed or marginilized. I know lots of white guys that have it harder than me. Just be the best person/husband/father/employee you can be, and people will usually respect you. Definitely don't be an angry jaded incel tho. That never works no matter what race you are.
"Definitely don't be an angry jaded incel tho. That never works no matter what race you are." Unfortunately, I think the evidence is against you, at least in America. As an example, after becoming the arch-incel murderer, Elliot Rodger (who was half Chinese Malaysian) had a number of female sympathizers and admirers, which he certainly would never have had if he had remained some anonymous complaining forum user. Fame and/or notoriety can turn any vice into a selling point.
@@hayvebromier2158 Elliot Rodger also died while commiting his crime. Do you want to end up like that just to get some attention from strangers? Life isn't easy, but it's also quite straightforward for most people. You get what you give, so give it your 100%. Someone like me will probably never attract lots of women, but is that what you should want? When a good woman comes along, she will recognize a good man that suits her goals/personality. Try to be that good man.
One more thing: You nailed it. Women don’t want a 6 ft tall wh*te man with abs who makes 100k+/year if he has zero personality, no good values, close-minded and esp if he’s a total douchebag. Those men def exist 🙄. Good people will always look for other good people!
Anger is better because it comes with energy that can support the struggle -- while feeling helpless will cause one to give up and create sadness and depression which puts one at risk when one is being oppressed. This is a fight or flight situation. To live hope is necessary and anger is needed to fight the wrongs of life. disclosure - I am 63 going on 64 years old - and I remember Chinese people being hated by both blacks and whites in school. I also remember the existence of a social class in Chinatown - where children of poorer working class families were looked down upon too. It was a real rat race back then - the type of nastiness was not just wrt to race but sex and how wealthy one's family was.
Are you legit half Chinese and half Filipino? Did you experience any resistance (prejudice) from either side? Identity stuff? Which side do you identity with?
Being alpha speaks for itself. I once knew this really alpha AM. He was an older hapa actually but his charisma, swagger, emotional intelligence, and street smarts were through the roof. Being beta is not a virtue.
The stamp is fading because of Korean dramas and K-pop being more popular in America nowadays. Those Korean men are FINE (attractive) & successful. They’re slowly changing the image of Asian males.
K pop doesn't help Asian americans because what Korean man will walk around a black ghetto or white jock school with lipstick and glitter on his face? It will work in the eastern world but not the western world
@@phylicia595 Men might think it’s making it worse. But, I’m a woman and I interact with a lot of women online about k-dramas & Korean culture. Plenty of western women find these men VERY attractive. You have young western women flocking to Korean to “teach” or study abroad. Mainly due to the influence of K-pop & k-dramas.
I'm a 65 year old half-Chinese (Chinese father) born in the US. I think some of it is our culture, at least Chinese. I recall being told when I was young that being social and having social skills wasn't important, that studying hard, working hard what was important, that good things would come if you worked hard. But of course, there was a lot of racism also.
I think this culture of competition goes quite deep. If you look at the motherland: China, Korea etc.... we see examples of intense academic competitions, high stack examinations, and intense commerical competitions etc... I look at other races, and cultures, I don't see this intense competition. Also, most Asian families don 't really have a culture of love. Asians don 't say "i love you son" etc... This is going to cause a lot of problems for personal development like being able to express vulnerability, and being open to intimacy.
Everyone thinks I'm a tiger mom, but I'm just a loving mom. My mothehood as a Korean mom has been so hard because of such prejudice. White people look for reasons to justify their hatred. Most korean families love one other deeply.
Damn im that asian guy David was talkiing bout, born in america that doesnt feel the social untouchable scarlet letter social pressure. Good looking asian guy in California (but im half white filipino and spanish). Im in the bubble so did not have that negative pressure, however I get love all over the world and mistaken for puertorican lightskinned. I got that social white priveldge and you know what its ok to admit that, if you have an advantage its no use being in denial that those unfair treatments exist. But im tapped in trying to understand yalls struggle, so I keep up with the channel keeps me informed on subconsious social issues. Keep your heads up asian bros we in it together, us lightskin halfus whatever you want to call it are with you.
Being half Korean I have not experienced Asian Men being considered social untouchable. I was in a Fraternity when I was in college in the 90s in the Midwest of all places that was all white, but I do think we in considered undesirable in the dating scene because of the stenotypes of Asian men being nerdy and geeky.
Man, as one of those Asian guys who isn't part of the Asian community and originally from nyc - the Asian community didn't want me to be part of them. I'm an outsider. I'm mixed. Race just isn't part of my community. It is, however, part of my experience. I experienced similar racism as John Cho. I didn't get that community from anyone. Instead, I had to go my own way. That said, things are getting much better. I have 10 year old boys, and we live in Georgia. Race isn't a thing here for the kids. My kids get home lunch, and my wife is half Japanese, while I'm half Chinese. She's sent them to school everyday with Japanese style bento boxes, and the teachers are jealous. The other kids don't react like kids back in the day would. So just keep on.
I go through. This all the time and I'm white have native American. When I was a kid growing up I am so more agree with people at age 58 I have know trust in know one
I am an African American woman artist, and just because I draw and paint women of Japanese nativity and ancestry don’t mean that I see men of Asian nativity and ancestry as anywhere near “inferior”, effeminate or any less valuable than their female counterparts. ⭐️💜🌹
I remember watching John Cho on an episode of HOUSE M.D. where he played this pathetic guy who was into getting beat up by a woman and his parents thinking he was a freak and kicked him out/disowned him... that ep really didn't do a lot to help how people view asian males
"don’t equate being able to date and marry outside your race with being accepted." I don't think it was ever stated that they were equivalent, the implication was that they were _more_ accepted. Now, you can still disagree with that, but a lot of people are going to expect you to explain why exactly you disagree and provide non-anecdotal evidence for why your disagreement is justified. You can brush those people off, but then who are you going to persuade who doesn't already agree with you? You may say you don't care about persuading people, but then why even comment? Seems like a waste of time.
Asian women are over-sexualized from Western media (e.g. me so horny from Full Metal Jacket, etc.). Asian men are emasculated from Western media (Luk Duk Dong from Sixteen Candles, Mickey Rooney from Breakfast and Han from 2 Broke Girls, etc.)
John Cho is 50yo? Dang son, that's what's up. On the positive side, some guys need to take that aggression and hit the gym like the brothers suggested. Don't be a Sith lord.
Except, when you immigrate to the US from say, Canada, Europe, etc, I don't think they have the same experience as what Asians and their descendants experience, even those from Africa don't have issues like those from Asia.
To all ASian Americans, if you want respect you first need to have unity within Asia in general. We need to stop promoting conflicts in Asia in order to allow Asia to grow and become a combined superpower bloc. If you dont have a strong Asian nation, then Asian Americans will lose more respect. Just look at what happened to the native americans as a perfect example. Time for Asian in Asia to unite against western hegemony.
Black people aren't treated as foreigners. Some racist right wingers will tell you to go back to Africa but Asians have to deal with both racist conservatives and smug racist liberals
As an Asian person, this is why I've always tried to shoot down the "well that's not our problem" argument in regards to BLM and your struggles, because your fight is (should be) our fight too! It's just for decades, both our races have been played against each other, to look down on, and distrust, the other.
The few things that I personally find problematic with Asian men is that (1) they are extremely competitive in just about anything when up against another Asian to the point of doing very dishonorable things to get what they want.(2) SOME Asian men do not handle success or failure well...if they're successful then they look down on other Asians who are not successful and tend to mistreat and belittle them and (3) if they fail in an endeavor that would uplift their social status( because social status seems to mean everything) they tend to spiral into a deep depression...they feel like they've failed not only themselves but their family and it seems like it's hard for them to come back from...its like they're very weak minded...at least that's my impression respectively... as I said earlier... SOME Asian men not all Asian men.
You hit on a good point, their upbringing places an emphasis on social position, with this comes catastrophizing failure and belittling others to uplift your own social positioning. I'm in my mid twenties and just starting to shed these toxic beliefs which I never questioned. It's a long journey but I can feel my thinking improving. I think when it comes to Asian men, these beliefs hold them back from accepting themselves, relying on parental forces to motivate them and going through a "quarter life crisis" and becoming independent & finding your own motivations. I hope all Asian men can learn to love themselves.
Neither do white men, but Asian women will always tar all Asian men with one broad brush while viewing each white men (no matter how many d*psh*ts they encounter) as an individual human being. In order words, you ladies are no position to call judgement on Asian men because you have internalized racism and impose racist doubles standards on Asian men. These are your problems that you Asian women need to deal with. Asian men like me are building towards a much bigger future and we don't need weak links like you. Save your pity and racist BS for your adopted white community and stay out of ours.
And you Asian women have plenty of disgusting racism against Asian men for no other reason than your white worship and overweening desire to assimilate. Sit the F down, you're in no position to talk. We are NOT part of the same community. Your white knights are getting sh*tcanned the F out of the world's largest economies right now LMAO. We Asian men are building global and for ourselves and don't need your concern-trolling. On 12/7/2022, the world was reset and the future rewritten by full Asian men for the next 50 yrs, but you probably have no damn idea what I'm talking about LMAO.
True. I see this behaviour in some of my Asian male cousins and even some uncles. Also, some past Asian male friends. Of course, not all Asian men. Most AM I know are happy, partnered/married, great jobs, have supportive friends and lovely children. And there are a few others who are lonely and angry, bitter, divorced - always blaming others for their own problems, or constantly comparing themselves to other people. It’s like they feel the need to prove themselves all the time or need external validation from others. The pattern I find amongst them is they often didn’t have positive male role models growing up. Either their fathers were toxic/abusive or ditched all together. Again, not all AM. Generational trauma in Asian families is real
Dude, you're too funny. Just work on yourself. Get ripped, stay lean, work hard and again Be Proud AF to be Asian!!! If you're proud to be Asian and be yourself like all masculine and shit. Girls will come to you!
No you need to repent and believe in The Gospel. How can you love your wife if you don't even love yourself? John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Mark 1:15 - “The time is fulfilled,” He said, “and the kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe in the gospel!”
Issue is that interracial Asian-White love is not the same. Asian women who marry white men gain white privilege. White women who marry Asian men lose white privilege.
Interesting topic but I don't think asian people got it anymore harder than african americans. Asian people have a strong community. Keep looking forward. One good point andrew said was that the definition of being american keeps changing.
Grew up in late 70"s through early 90's. Black and always thought Asians folk could fight. Quiet ass kickers, lol. I'm black and watched Kung Fu's in my childhood. Also, saw a few ass whipping quiet Asian gave people.
This is a rule for success for all minorities in this country - stop blaming everyone else and proudly move forward. Understand that life isn't easy and people won't always accept and respect you and you'll take a lot of shit throughout life... it just is, stop getting so worked over. And stop following the left-wing narrative nonsense and look at things with a realistic perspective.
growing up in the 80's and 90's as an Asian-North American we were definitely treated that way. I'm a little younger than John Cho, but remember all the remarks my older brothers and myself received. We were even subject to people spitting on us just because we were asian. Hard truths of growing up in that environment.
I'm white, I have to say asian guys suffered the most though. Asian girls get their compensation by marrying white men and enjoying white privilege, so they didn't suffered much.
Grew up in the 80s and 90s from elementary to college....it was Hella racist! John Cho is right
@@nathanolson3135 found the ignorant gweilo 👍🏼
During that time as well Asian men from China or Japan would be above Asian American men to add insult to injury. Love my action films but John Cho broke the barrier where Asian American men can be seen as regular American kids like in American Pie and do not have to be a mixed martial artist or a non-speaking role.
x100. I remember growing up in San Jose and Santa Clara and it was kind of rough. The Hispanics and the Caucasians hated Asians the most. When I try to tell Asians who are a generation or two that are younger than I, its like they seem to think I'm crazy. They never experienced the type of racism my generation faced and I'm glad they did not, but that feeling is still there somewhere inside of me.
I am not asian but as a black man, this video hits me a certain way. I truly can relate and I will always support the fung brothers. You guys rock.
Do you know many black guys that make small pecker jokes to their Asian friends on a regular basis?
@@Quandoquesto No
@@Quandoquesto That doesn't dismiss this person's sincerity. Oh - because one part of a race talks shit that means the other part can't be an ally?
@@cqtaylor Exactly, I am all about giving love.
@@cordea5146 Glad to hear that, Dude.
I had a more unorthodox Asian dad. He came here with his family as a kid and got bullied so bad he basically encouraged me to fight back if things got violent. Weird to know a Buddhist that wants you to hit people. He literally put me into Tae Kwon do and karate specifically to fight and not because of the whole discipline thing. How our parents were raised has a big influence on our views towards these issues.
Your dad knows the school system. They ain’t going to do shit unless hands were thrown. Might as well be the one throwing hands and get suspended than be the one getting bully to death.
Similar feeling my friend, Dad told me to be deadly no matter what due to his personal experiences. Sent me right to Muay Thai and Krav Maga classes at 13 to make sure I can do damage when necessary. So far fortunately, never had to use it, and I hope that day never comes. World is a pretty fucked up place right now, which doesn't help at all.
My mom was the same way. My dad was always worried about my permanent record, but after I got bullied bad my mom said fuck it, fight back and don't hold back either. After winning a few fights, people stopped messing with me.
@@watdaphuq we gotta start bruce lee'ing some of these fuckers, they all act like they're superior or special, hell no.
Asian males face lots of racism and discrimination.
Asian females are given racial privilege, advantage, and benefits.
Being born and growing up here as an American Asian Hmong male and being educated was and still is very hard. There are many managers in the workforce not wanting an Asian American Male to advance in thier career vs others, even with the same skill set, degree and intellect level. It's effing sad and it's effing unfair. Still, I will fight in the shade and eventho I am American, I am Proud AF to be Asian!!!
As a non Asian, I agree about the observation that Asians always seem to compete with one another and never elevate. I follow black and Latino podcasts like the Platica and I notice that when those people come up, they always give back to the community and impart advice to be successful. It always seems that Asians always try to gatekeep success from each other which seems rather hoarder like and gives off that lack of camaraderie you mentioned
I agree with John Cho. I grew up with it. I'm first generation immigrant coming to America as a child in 1973. I grew up feeling ashamed. I believed being an enlisted soldier and later an infantry officer would give me a sense of acceptance. No matter how much good I tried to do, I hit alot of resistance. It wasn't until I moved to Japan (due to a job transfer) that I actually had pride of my background. This generation I feel has it better with the current technology and education. All that I can do is to move forward and advance. Always advance.
As a prior enlisted military officer, your words have a point. Service does provide some prestige and benefit, but resistance still exists due to racial minority status.
I’m the same age as John Cho and of course that stigma was always there in media. Unfortunately Asian women were complicit with it too at times (eg Joy Luck Club). As adults though, we had to just focus on our lives. Yes, there can be needle movers like Bruce Lee, but in our everyday realities, we can only focus on being the best husbands, fathers, friends, leaders, workers we can be. We can move the needle in our own personal ways. Just live life. Im a big lifelong boxing fan and I like to train on the heavy bag at the gym. I just love it and don’t think about anything else. Maybe others around me may think, “Damn, that Asian dude is destroying that heavy bag!” LOL, just live life and let things take care of themselves.
Yes, the women were absolutely complicit. But complicit with whom?
Asian males face lots of racism and discrimination.
Asian females are given racial privilege, advantage, and benefits.
Wait he's Harold from Harold and Kumar right
Really like the point that some Asians don't seem to want to acknowledge some of the struggles. Not talking about it doesn't make you above it. And it certainly prevents you from facing it.
Said it before and I’ll say it again, Fung Bros keepin it real
Sorry about the long rant, but this is really crazy for me to hear. I'm 52 and totally understand what John Cho is talking about. I grew up in and live in SoCal, but in areas I was the only or one of a handful of Asian guys (yes....very different for guys and girls) everywhere I grew up and in the 70's and 80's. I've always been tall and "look very Korean" so I couldn't blend in and realized I couldn't so I tried even more to stand out and I did. Playing sports, being a student and community leader helped, but I still grew up pretty angry and ready to lash out which I did many times. Two things really changed my perspective and outlook. One, all of the Korean guys fighting other Korean guys I saw during college in the early 90's; which just made me laugh and something I never wanted to be a part of, which my Korean friends didn't understand and now being a dad and my sons being shocked at my road rage up until only a few years ago....I am still embarrassed when they joke about a certain over-the-top incident they remember when they were toddlers and that really made me reflect. Growing up how I did and seeing the stupidity of Koreans fighting other Koreans and also being a dad has calmed me down. Of course there's God, my amazing wife, and now a daughter so there's a ton of blessings. I'm a "legit" 6'1" always weigh between 208 and 212 pounds and fit. I'm in the best shape of my life, exercising & training with my teenage boys and another funny thing is that the stronger I get and the more training in martial arts, I get calmer and calmer each day. Thanks for your content and insight Fung Bros...you guys are great!
Yo..u guys so have it down. Love all that was said here. So true. I hope your fight for Asian Americans will pay off.
I'm actually much more in the mood for a global Asian male led payback against racists who are still running their mouth. This aszzzwhooping is gonna multigenerational and a full century long affair. Count on it.
I definitely see your point of view. But at the same time it's 2023. I've been seeing so many more non Asian women coming forward with their love for Asian guys or at least being more open minded along with a stronger presence in the media if that counts for anything. Agreed, we are underrated but we just have to keep our chins high and move forward. My only critique to my fellow Asian brothers is that I've seen quite a few who don't put enough effort into how they look and expressing themselves.
like where. I'm an Asian guy in NYC. I still see heck allot more white guys with Asian girls.
Yeah brah, the cohesiveness and incredible coordination that we have back at home just suddenly disappears once you go overseas.
I’m an Asian man. African American girls always showed me love in grade school to high school. (I grew up in the 80s-90s.) I was a band nerd too and got really messed up feeling so emasculated.
I spent the past 10 years living outside of the USA mostly in SE Asia; my experiences there have helped me regain the confidence I never had growing up in Tallahassee, Florida. (At that time there were 300 kids in my school and 4 Asians.)
But what’s funny is that most of the high end consumer brands advertising in Asia feature white men and Asians associate that with better quality.
But yea I think it can be eye opening for Asian American men to go have some experiences in Asian countries.
I also spent 5 years pursing acting in LA (2007-2012) and noticed even the asian men auditioning at the time was very competitive too. But I left because the roles I was going out for felt so emasculating. In fact I booked more jobs when I was fat and nerdy.
I think having this clenched fist and deep resentments for being so emasculated can be a strong motivator to finally decide to stop taking sh*t from people. But at same time I am very much aware of an inferiority complex that has made me behave in some cowardly ways as well.
Anyways thanks for talking about these issues. I never had anyone to simply reflect my experiences back to me as a kid and I think podcasts like this can help a young asian American kid somewhere feel less alone.
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Great take! Scarlet letter feels harsh but agree directionally. Asian American dude def need to work together more. I don’t often feel like other AA guys are my opponents but also don’t feel the support. So more the absence of support than the direct opposition
at my work accidental racism is so annoying. My boss knew I was Vietnamese but paired me with a chinese women because she assumed we spoke the same language. And when I told her we spoke different languages from completely separate language families she looked super confused.
We fear being rejected because we know we cannot exist alone - however, the level of independence and dependency is different for each of us. The more self sufficient and capable a person is the less we fear being rejected because we know how valuable we are. The question is then - Why do I need you? Why should I care what you think? Or why should you care what I think? In the long run how sustainable am I? As I have gotten older I have learnt that physical and mental health must be the core of any sustainable position that can established. Without your health or without mental compentency - there can be no sustainable position.
Ronny Chieng got that anger, and he's not even Asian-American.
He grew up in Australia though similar to the west
Also it helps when you follow Asian media and help the Asian communities in the US. Follow everyone who is Asian American (ones who are destroying the stereotypes) and strive to be that. Social media is what changes the mind of people who are into it.
it helps but it shouldn’t be your whole perspective. being in a bubble is good and bad. can’t just rely on identity. you need humility, anger and peace as well as perspective and growth. looking at asian media can be as bad as it is good
Anger should be converted into self motivation for improvement, never for ideas of revenge or retaliation
yeah..... I was in high school in the ghetto in the late 80's . I used my energy studied for the SAT's and aced my regents to go to school upstate and felt like heaven
lmfao this is exactly what the white men would want you to do
The problem is, how exactly do you justify or enforce your "should"? Do you think just stating something like this like it's self-evident will be enough for the majority of people to resist these feelings, especially when acting out on them can give you a short-term dopamine rush? With how certain things are trending, there are going to be a lot of people who are going to put a lot of thought into how to manipulate people by playing to these feelings; if you think people are just going to "get" what you're saying, I would disabuse yourself of that notion as soon as you can manage. What's at stake is an everyday life where you're not constantly worrying about your car getting flipped over or your house getting burnt down.
By the way, if you couldn't tell, I'm not just talking about Asians here.
the fact of the matter is that the most powerful nations/societies in the world today got to where they are through both self-improvement and aggressive conquest and exploitation of other nations to expedite their self-improvement even further.
Asian-American men will never rise to the top of the food chain until they are willing to mercilessly tear out their competitor's throat. You are naive and foolish if you think otherwise.
We can do both. I refuse to tolerate any racist double standards that Asians are expected to adhered to but white tr_sh are not. Don't be an a-hole if you don't want to be spanked. Punishment is always controlled by someone else.
To fellow Asian guys, just switch on Asian media and unleash your inner power.
Or build our global facing media companies to serve the global majority that is Asian with the largest consumer bases and fastest growing purchasing power. Why settle for North America when we can have the world? 😊
Years ago, I met him before the Harold & Kumar movies. He didn't have much personality and was working at the time with the East West Players in L.A.. I guess he can be more selective with the roles he takes now. While some asian actors like Mike Hagiwara are still struggling in his '60s.
Bobby Lee is definitely part of the problem
Love what y'all do, but you y'all need to turn down the politeness and turn up the hard truth. All this beating around the bush and playing mediator doesn't resonate with the audience.
What is the truth?
Asians are going to slightly
Nawl they are on target, they have to play mediator to bring the topics up because there is no one filling that gap, another channel or group should take it and run with the hard truth afterward. Topic needs to beintroduced softly or mainstream media will be dismissive
I feel the same. They're always careful to not upset subscribers, but we need to hear the real truths.
The Asian men from JustKiddingNews (JK News), and many others out there will definitely disagree with you and John Cho.
They pander to non-Asians.
I’m from Boston I’ve been playing ice hockey all my life not so I got in a fight almost every day went to army but I don’t remember nobody really challenge me face to face. My background is 100% Mongolian.
this really resonates with me. Thank you Fung Bros
Yes, us growing up in and around gangs or were athletes always stood up for ourselves and set a good example of how to own your ethnicity. As a result there was very little racial tension around me nor internalised racism, there was respect, and we could date out of race. It's even easier now compared to the 90s, early 00s.
Sure your race/culture is still a talking point but you can feel the vibe when they are trying to celebrate your difference rather than otherize you. Don't take offence and share it with pride.
I recommend Asian men learn to be a little less humble or reserved even just jokingly. It's not the way to connect or garner respect in the West. They'll just think you're cold and distant.
Damn...given the novels and bios for all the comments...this def struck a nerve. Lol
It's not just in the USA. In europe too asian descents are treated the same
As an Chinese American man, I can feel for any asian American man who lived in racist western worlds. Also asian mindset is to just hold everything in and forget about it. Just saying, that shit don’t work in western countries. Be more vocal about it and be more up front. It’s the only way to have change. It might be hard and awkward to do due to the Eastern Brain and the Western Brain colliding in all of us Asian men, but just gotta go for it. Be advocate and support one another. It’s the only way
Doesn't it get easier depending where you live like in San Francisco it's easy to be Asian probably but if you move to whiteyville they'll pick on you also people pick on people that stand out or are the outlier because it's easier
I didn’t even have to think about what people think of me..I stand my ground and maintain masculinity. I guess Asian are known to be educated..but how about educated and looking jacked and maintain masculinity?
This is a good topic guys keep it up. 🙏🙏
Definitely!!
Anger is a gift.
this video really hit the spot its so sad how much asian men are bullied and pushed in this society and its very consistent and constant thing.... I will give you an example.... just look at my screen name, I had to change it because I used to use my Asian name, and any comment I make, lets say I say DUNE is a great movie! Right away some A hole would comment, did you even understand the movie? is Dune even allowed in CHINA? If I just say Game of Thrones is really good.... right away its bullying comments... shut up you lonely asian nerd you just watch Game of Thrones to whack off to Emilia Clark. This is just a small example, I can go on and on and on.... its consistent from the moment I wake up till I close my eyes at night. And I feel bad for my Asian brothers.... life sucks life aint great for you/us.
Being angry is never the answer. Its unfortunate circumstances (coming from an African American Black woman) but you really just have to put in the work to make peoples opinions change from our pasts and what has happened to our Ancestors. Like you boys The Hot Pot Boys thats why I LOVE and watch Fung Bros because its sooooooo different and insightful the stuff I like and LOVE coming from marginalized people just like me =)) LOVE YOU BOYS CONTINUE WITH THE GREAT WORK CANT WAIT TO SEE MORE FROM YOU ALL!!!!! =D
Progress on this issue for Asians in the hood is almost non-existent. It's still as hard as it was decades ago.
Can you guys talk about that last piece about Asian American guys not working well with each other? I’ve noticed it too and I thought it was just me.
Naw they are working well together behind the scenes, if you go on certain Financial or investing forums for certain high income market areas, many asians are sharing advice and anaylsis and discussing social topics and keeping each other updated. But its generally the rich asians, but i sneak in there and taketheir knowledge haha
When he said “pickle ball squad” 😂. Call to arm to take over the pickle ball court.
Good convo as always gentlemen. Very insightful
I'm asian but I am racially ambiguous. I have deep set eyes, which most other Asian guys do not have. I'm tan too and people confuse me for Mexican all the time. Many Asians don't see me as asian and don't wanna associate with me.
I've tried so many asian meet ups or groups at my university and they just don't like to hang out with me. I get along better with white or Mexican people... even black people love me
i feel you dude. im a brown south east asian and most east asians (yellow asians) dont f** with me all the time even though i try. I can relate to most things with them on a cultural standpoint because of my upbringing. tbh east asians have used up the umbrella term of being 'ASIAN' so much to the point that people only associate 'ASIANS' with east-asian-looking-people and never think or associate all the other ethnicities within it. to the point that it kinda messes things up for the rest of us from a social standpoint. i get it. getting very specific of what kind of asian you are can be a bit much. but i feel like it would indirectly educate other races about how eclectic and diverse we all are.
Ya bro I have way more Mexican, Black, & American friends than East Asian friends. I am half Lao & Half Chinese & I am brown as hell. I got Filipino my whole life growing up! I would say we got it easy since we don't look like the typical yellow light skin Asians.
Assimilating to American culture might have been easier on our end. My half brother is full Chinese since my pops remarried & his life was School & now JUST work. Socializing with other races was something my brother did NOT do & he is now 22, Civil Engineer for the City if LA. He did grow up in Alhambra so the diversity wasn't really there. His whole life was competing against other Chinese kids going to weekend school, Chinese school, Piano lessons etc. None of those activities allows for Social Skill building which Asian parents think is a waste of time haha. I would say the Asian bro's that grew up from the 70's & 80's got it way worse compared to 90's - present
In America, it's good to be racially ambiguous because the ignorant racists can't call you name, they don't attack you, not knowing exactly which Asian group you belong. For East Asians, they are suffer more from discriminations based on their unique look, especially in COVID era. For you, you can blend in with the rest. But East Asians, it is tough for us. I live in the States for 40 yrs, I've seen and experienced a lot of subtle discriminations and full force discriminations. For personal safety standpoint, you are better off to look racially ambiguous.
If you comes with a positive attitude, I embrace you. Some Asians are introvert and it depends on the personality, it's not the matter if they like you or not. Try to approach them with a friendly attitude, then go from there. They might feel threaten by some folks due to the historical oppressions and discriminations, they put on a defensive mode. Keep trying with your sunshine attitudes, you'll gain friends from East Asians groups.
@@de7uz Imagine being racially ambigous lightskin, like I get mistaken for puerto rican alot, its the ultimate cheat code, thugs think you are a cuzzo, cops think your somones kid, employers see the white name lightskin easily hired. All women wants the D, ayyeeee (im spanish filipino white)
Fung Bros make some great points. When you’re born and raised in America, you are American. I’m as American as anyone else, we say. I’m as American as apple pie, we proclaim. We feel entitled to the same treatment as white Americans because we’re “basically white,” many say.
But this entitled outlook will only lead to disappointment and identity issues. Why? Because we aren’t seen as white by Caucasians. This is a hard truth for many Asian Americans to accept.
Might as well respect the heritage while embracing being American. You will be more confident and comfortable in you own skin.
Both nailed it right there at around 10:08. Friends are chosen family. This is something straight-cis folks, esp men can learn from the queer community. If your family is not supportive, they’re toxic, they compare you to others and don’t value you for you - build your own supportive community. Real friends, in real life.
Also, contrary to what most Asian cultures think, *strong people go to therapy.* It takes courage to address head on what is making you angry/depressed/hateful/spiteful than to repress it or spew hate in online forums and comments.
All the best everyone
Be so good they cannot ignore you. Throughout history men are measured by what they can do. Use their bs comments and slights as fuel to push yourself harder.
But is that worth it for the average guy when Asian women are choosing white guys anyways? Congrats you’re exceptional but most Asian guys are just going to struggle. imo
Many are good but still ignored. Asians have high academic achievement, but get ignored by some Ivy League schools. Asians often get passed over for promotion at their post-college jobs because employers see them as laborious, but not leaders.
As an Asian male that has been shamed from both side of the American and Asian. I have decided to just be proud of me without the need of a label to bee in a "group". so, I'd appreciate it if you didn't shame people for chosing to not identity strongly just b/c of the color of my skin.
Korean here born in Argentina and raised in Brazil. Same age as John. I 1000% relate with with him. Been bullied my whole life. At one point, it's gotten so bad in school that I snapped, kicked the bully between his legs so hard, one of his testicles busted, needless to say he's incapable of fathering a child and got myself expelled from middle school, my father neither condemned or congratulate me. The kids parents sued my parents and paid $1200 as medical and reparations, this was in the 80's, back then$1200 was a lot of money, even for 3rd country standards. Am I sorry??? Sometimes...will I encourage my 11 boy to stand his ground? Absofuckinglutely. Iused bebcalled chinito and jap every day in case you're curious...
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I am Asian but I think you went to far. No need to kick in the nuts. Only weak people kick the nut. Fight like a man if u want to, not kick the private part. SMH.
He's 50 years old? When did that happen?
I didn't realize he was that old. I had no idea.
He looks AMAZING for 50. I thought he was in his 30's, which makes no sense once I think about it.
As an Asian-Canadian guy who is average in pretty much every respect (5'9, 60k/year income, in shape but not built, etc.). I overall do quite well. I'm a homeowner, married to a wife most ppl find attractive, a father to a young daughter, stable finances, etc.
Maybe things are harder on Asian guys in the US compared to Canada, but I don't really feel opressed or marginilized. I know lots of white guys that have it harder than me.
Just be the best person/husband/father/employee you can be, and people will usually respect you. Definitely don't be an angry jaded incel tho. That never works no matter what race you are.
"Definitely don't be an angry jaded incel tho. That never works no matter what race you are."
Unfortunately, I think the evidence is against you, at least in America. As an example, after becoming the arch-incel murderer, Elliot Rodger (who was half Chinese Malaysian) had a number of female sympathizers and admirers, which he certainly would never have had if he had remained some anonymous complaining forum user. Fame and/or notoriety can turn any vice into a selling point.
@@hayvebromier2158 Elliot Rodger also died while commiting his crime. Do you want to end up like that just to get some attention from strangers?
Life isn't easy, but it's also quite straightforward for most people. You get what you give, so give it your 100%.
Someone like me will probably never attract lots of women, but is that what you should want?
When a good woman comes along, she will recognize a good man that suits her goals/personality. Try to be that good man.
Love your maturity and insight. Keep being the great example that you are 🙌🏼
Victim mentality is the worst characteristic you can have. Build a strong mentality and you’ll be successful.
One more thing: You nailed it. Women don’t want a 6 ft tall wh*te man with abs who makes 100k+/year if he has zero personality, no good values, close-minded and esp if he’s a total douchebag. Those men def exist 🙄.
Good people will always look for other good people!
Bro you guys are on point with this topic. 💯
Anger is better because it comes with energy that can support the struggle -- while feeling helpless will cause one to give up and create sadness and depression which puts one at risk when one is being oppressed. This is a fight or flight situation. To live hope is necessary and anger is needed to fight the wrongs of life. disclosure - I am 63 going on 64 years old - and I remember Chinese people being hated by both blacks and whites in school. I also remember the existence of a social class in Chinatown - where children of poorer working class families were looked down upon too. It was a real rat race back then - the type of nastiness was not just wrt to race but sex and how wealthy one's family was.
I'm a self-ascribed, good-looking chinese/filipino guy who grew up in a white SoCal neighborhood, and I confirm the experienced racism.
Are you legit half Chinese and half Filipino? Did you experience any resistance (prejudice) from either side? Identity stuff? Which side do you identity with?
Again anyone that stands out is an easy target I got picked on for my skin problems and like ready to find the nearest bridge type low self worth
I agree because there is zero respect for us as alpha males. Asians can be heros too.
Being alpha speaks for itself. I once knew this really alpha AM. He was an older hapa actually but his charisma, swagger, emotional intelligence, and street smarts were through the roof. Being beta is not a virtue.
in vancouver canada, i think its not the case
I am an African American woman that is married to a Korean American man and I apologize for any bullying or harassment that any Asian man has received
Why would that be on you at all ? This is such a weird comment
Bullying happens to almost every kind of person bullying is like a favorite American pastime at this point
Very interesting 🙌
The stamp is fading because of Korean dramas and K-pop being more popular in America nowadays. Those Korean men are FINE (attractive) & successful. They’re slowly changing the image of Asian males.
K pop doesn't help Asian americans because what Korean man will walk around a black ghetto or white jock school with lipstick and glitter on his face?
It will work in the eastern world but not the western world
@@phylicia595 Men might think it’s making it worse. But, I’m a woman and I interact with a lot of women online about k-dramas & Korean culture. Plenty of western women find these men VERY attractive. You have young western women flocking to Korean to “teach” or study abroad. Mainly due to the influence of K-pop & k-dramas.
Is it though ? I still see Asian women with below average White men abd Asian men alone
I'm a 65 year old half-Chinese (Chinese father) born in the US. I think some of it is our culture, at least Chinese. I recall being told when I was young that being social and having social skills wasn't important, that studying hard, working hard what was important, that good things would come if you worked hard. But of course, there was a lot of racism also.
I think this culture of competition goes quite deep. If you look at the motherland: China, Korea etc.... we see examples of intense academic competitions, high stack examinations, and intense commerical competitions etc...
I look at other races, and cultures, I don't see this intense competition.
Also, most Asian families don 't really have a culture of love. Asians don 't say "i love you son" etc... This is going to cause a lot of problems for personal development like being able to express vulnerability, and being open to intimacy.
Everyone thinks I'm a tiger mom, but I'm just a loving mom.
My mothehood as a Korean mom has been so hard because of such prejudice.
White people look for reasons to justify their hatred.
Most korean families love one other deeply.
My squad is Asian of all ethnicities and some other races sprinkled in.
Damn im that asian guy David was talkiing bout, born in america that doesnt feel the social untouchable scarlet letter social pressure. Good looking asian guy in California (but im half white filipino and spanish). Im in the bubble so did not have that negative pressure, however I get love all over the world and mistaken for puertorican lightskinned.
I got that social white priveldge and you know what its ok to admit that, if you have an advantage its no use being in denial that those unfair treatments exist.
But im tapped in trying to understand yalls struggle, so I keep up with the channel keeps me informed on subconsious social issues. Keep your heads up asian bros we in it together, us lightskin halfus whatever you want to call it are with you.
Spanish is white🙃 Also how can you be "lightskin" when you're white???😂
@@chyeannevojet7664 sorry forgot to reveal my asian side is filipino, ill make the edit
Being half Korean I have not experienced Asian Men being considered social untouchable. I was in a Fraternity when I was in college in the 90s in the Midwest of all places that was all white, but I do think we in considered undesirable in the dating scene because of the stenotypes of Asian men being nerdy and geeky.
David you gotta let andrew speak man you're like carmelo right now
Damn, that analogy hits hard
Man, as one of those Asian guys who isn't part of the Asian community and originally from nyc - the Asian community didn't want me to be part of them. I'm an outsider. I'm mixed.
Race just isn't part of my community. It is, however, part of my experience. I experienced similar racism as John Cho.
I didn't get that community from anyone. Instead, I had to go my own way.
That said, things are getting much better. I have 10 year old boys, and we live in Georgia. Race isn't a thing here for the kids. My kids get home lunch, and my wife is half Japanese, while I'm half Chinese. She's sent them to school everyday with Japanese style bento boxes, and the teachers are jealous. The other kids don't react like kids back in the day would.
So just keep on.
I go through. This all the time and I'm white have native American. When I was a kid growing up I am so more agree with people at age 58 I have know trust in know one
I am an African American woman artist, and just because I draw and paint women of Japanese nativity and ancestry don’t mean that I see men of Asian nativity and ancestry as anywhere near “inferior”, effeminate or any less valuable than their female counterparts. ⭐️💜🌹
Life draw?...
should have interviewed George Takei for his wisdom if you are talking about generational struggle.
Listening to this it seems asians I america have a much different experience then those of us in Canada.
Definitely! Welcome to the life of an American Asian!. Hoot hoot!!
@poor man's outdoor hope you guys in America do well. Guess we have it a bit easier up here. The society is different between us
@@akstong The struggle is real. I heard it was pretty hard living in Canada as Asian?
Look how much random hate Simu Liu gets. Even the mcu stars can't get a break
John Cho still hot... that is all.
Shohei Ohtani doing good
I think this is specifically about Asians born in the US.
He is right
It’s as good as it gets rn. 😂
systematic racism, it happens to everyone, racism even happens in everyone's own cultures too. cheers.
I remember watching John Cho on an episode of HOUSE M.D. where he played this pathetic guy who was into getting beat up by a woman and his parents thinking he was a freak and kicked him out/disowned him... that ep really didn't do a lot to help how people view asian males
Asian women feel it too but in a much different manner - also, don’t equate being able to date and marry outside your race with being accepted.
"don’t equate being able to date and marry outside your race with being accepted."
I don't think it was ever stated that they were equivalent, the implication was that they were _more_ accepted. Now, you can still disagree with that, but a lot of people are going to expect you to explain why exactly you disagree and provide non-anecdotal evidence for why your disagreement is justified. You can brush those people off, but then who are you going to persuade who doesn't already agree with you? You may say you don't care about persuading people, but then why even comment? Seems like a waste of time.
Asian women are over-sexualized from Western media (e.g. me so horny from Full Metal Jacket, etc.). Asian men are emasculated from Western media (Luk Duk Dong from Sixteen Candles, Mickey Rooney from Breakfast and Han from 2 Broke Girls, etc.)
John Cho is 50yo? Dang son, that's what's up.
On the positive side, some guys need to take that aggression and hit the gym like the brothers suggested. Don't be a Sith lord.
Stamp…100%. Yellow Peril never waned and STILL hasn’t.
It definitely has waned since the 1800s lol and the birth of a nation days
Except, when you immigrate to the US from say, Canada, Europe, etc, I don't think they have the same experience as what Asians and their descendants experience, even those from Africa don't have issues like those from Asia.
This is a good message for blacks too tbh
Yes. I'm an Asian man and I somehow agreed.
Hey, move to Denver, Denver has highest population in Mongolians Denver, Colorado everybody afraid of Mongolians.
That's Good 👍. Keep up the Great Work!! PROUD AF TO BE Asian!!
Haha 😂😂
No, nothing has changed
David take a deep breath. I felt winded listening to this.
Andrew speak UP 😂 🫶🏿
Chines helped build the intercontinental rail road that’s 1870 so 50 years😢
And they were deported or killed after they done their work. Western society are racist towards Asian men
They weren't recognized for a while. After the completion, WASP and Irish workers were photographed without them,
what up my yellow brothers
Filipinos have the best camaraderie… when I see other Vietnamese guys they act all stuck up and shit. I’m sayin to myself “bro let’s be cool” nah…
To all ASian Americans, if you want respect you first need to have unity within Asia in general. We need to stop promoting conflicts in Asia in order to allow Asia to grow and become a combined superpower bloc. If you dont have a strong Asian nation, then Asian Americans will lose more respect. Just look at what happened to the native americans as a perfect example. Time for Asian in Asia to unite against western hegemony.
Asian American need to get a president or some 4 star general
1:26 He's 5'10 though. 😄
Asian guys aren't aggressive, that's why
They are against each other but not when John Smith shows up
Euphemistically put.
Asians are only aggressive against each other.
Also mongolians and central Asians like Kazakhs, kyrgyz,Uzbeks,buryats are very aggressive.
@@ghhhggrtes-rx1gx yes just look at Shavkat Rakhmonov
A Glock retails between $500-700 . A psa dagger goes for $300 . $1000 if you include the a.r bundle
Y’all sound like black peoples maybe we not so different 😂
Black people aren't treated as foreigners. Some racist right wingers will tell you to go back to Africa but Asians have to deal with both racist conservatives and smug racist liberals
As an Asian person, this is why I've always tried to shoot down the "well that's not our problem" argument in regards to BLM and your struggles, because your fight is (should be) our fight too! It's just for decades, both our races have been played against each other, to look down on, and distrust, the other.
@@HeatRaver true
"Sound black" how does one sound "black"?
@@kingkazuma2239 meaning y’all Issues that I heard from this video sound just like us
The few things that I personally find problematic with Asian men is that (1) they are extremely competitive in just about anything when up against another Asian to the point of doing very dishonorable things to get what they want.(2) SOME Asian men do not handle success or failure well...if they're successful then they look down on other Asians who are not successful and tend to mistreat and belittle them and (3) if they fail in an endeavor that would uplift their social status( because social status seems to mean everything) they tend to spiral into a deep depression...they feel like they've failed not only themselves but their family and it seems like it's hard for them to come back from...its like they're very weak minded...at least that's my impression respectively... as I said earlier... SOME Asian men not all Asian men.
You hit on a good point, their upbringing places an emphasis on social position, with this comes catastrophizing failure and belittling others to uplift your own social positioning. I'm in my mid twenties and just starting to shed these toxic beliefs which I never questioned. It's a long journey but I can feel my thinking improving. I think when it comes to Asian men, these beliefs hold them back from accepting themselves, relying on parental forces to motivate them and going through a "quarter life crisis" and becoming independent & finding your own motivations. I hope all Asian men can learn to love themselves.
They should be competing against WM, not other AM.
Neither do white men, but Asian women will always tar all Asian men with one broad brush while viewing each white men (no matter how many d*psh*ts they encounter) as an individual human being. In order words, you ladies are no position to call judgement on Asian men because you have internalized racism and impose racist doubles standards on Asian men. These are your problems that you Asian women need to deal with. Asian men like me are building towards a much bigger future and we don't need weak links like you. Save your pity and racist BS for your adopted white community and stay out of ours.
And you Asian women have plenty of disgusting racism against Asian men for no other reason than your white worship and overweening desire to assimilate. Sit the F down, you're in no position to talk. We are NOT part of the same community. Your white knights are getting sh*tcanned the F out of the world's largest economies right now LMAO. We Asian men are building global and for ourselves and don't need your concern-trolling. On 12/7/2022, the world was reset and the future rewritten by full Asian men for the next 50 yrs, but you probably have no damn idea what I'm talking about LMAO.
True. I see this behaviour in some of my Asian male cousins and even some uncles. Also, some past Asian male friends. Of course, not all Asian men. Most AM I know are happy, partnered/married, great jobs, have supportive friends and lovely children. And there are a few others who are lonely and angry, bitter, divorced - always blaming others for their own problems, or constantly comparing themselves to other people.
It’s like they feel the need to prove themselves all the time or need external validation from others. The pattern I find amongst them is they often didn’t have positive male role models growing up. Either their fathers were toxic/abusive or ditched all together. Again, not all AM. Generational trauma in Asian families is real
If you're Proud AF to be Asian! Thumbs up 👍 this comment!!!!! Right Now!!! If not shut up!
We just need the white girls to love us and that will break the barrier.
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Dude, you're too funny. Just work on yourself. Get ripped, stay lean, work hard and again Be Proud AF to be Asian!!! If you're proud to be Asian and be yourself like all masculine and shit. Girls will come to you!
Face palm
No you need to repent and believe in The Gospel.
How can you love your wife if you don't even love yourself?
John 3:3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Mark 1:15 - “The time is fulfilled,” He said, “and the kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe in the gospel!”
Issue is that interracial Asian-White love is not the same. Asian women who marry white men gain white privilege. White women who marry Asian men lose white privilege.
Interesting topic but I don't think asian people got it anymore harder than african americans. Asian people have a strong community. Keep looking forward. One good point andrew said was that the definition of being american keeps changing.
It's not a competition. Why bring up African Americans?
@@chrystianaw8256 Asians are not the only minorities in the United States with
Similar experiences
#chaurule!
Grew up in late 70"s through early 90's. Black and always thought Asians folk could fight. Quiet ass kickers, lol. I'm black and watched Kung Fu's in my childhood. Also, saw a few ass whipping quiet Asian gave people.
Bobby rook rook, I’m American
This is a rule for success for all minorities in this country - stop blaming everyone else and proudly move forward. Understand that life isn't easy and people won't always accept and respect you and you'll take a lot of shit throughout life... it just is, stop getting so worked over. And stop following the left-wing narrative nonsense and look at things with a realistic perspective.