friend was like "look up what happened with solid" first video result.... honestly as a random passerby the quality level for the overall video is really well done. kudos.
This girl went from casual streamer in a community I've personally NEVER heard of (yogscast (probably because region)), to MG community rage, to speedrunning SENSATION, to getting mentioned across social media platforms, articles across the world, and even being mentioned by Hideo himself in the span of two days!? Her phone must have been on fire with notifications! What an overwhelming event congratulations to her. Truly a great discovery.
The crazy thing is, when you look at it at scale, people are finding stuff like this on their own every day in all kinds of games, but they aren't streaming to a large audience or aren't speedrunners, so they just shake their head and say, "That's weird," and then never think about it again.
I love how the whole speedrunning community jumped on this SO HARD that they had it fully understood, tweaked and improved it, and incorporated it into their routes/runs in LESS THEN 4 HOURS. Incredible.
As a Yogscast fan and occasional journalist, I think you did a fantastic job creating this video. It helps me understand a community I didn't know anything about while also communicating the excitement as these events unfolded.
I think the funniest thing about this whole saga was that Revolver Ocelot was able to accidentally troll a speedrunner with the bomb because its usual intended speedrunning purpose was rendered unnecessary and Nick forgot about it.
As a longtime Yogscast fan and someone who has gotten into speedrunning over the last few years, this was such a cool thing to watch unfold. Both the Yogscast and speedrunning communities are so great and so similar in a lot of ways. The fact that they run the Jingle Jam and GDQ, undeniably the biggest charity events in gaming just shows how generous and awesome both communities are.
If you think about it, there is something else quite significant about the Boba skip. It's a kind of skip that only a casual player can find as an experienced player wouldn't normally randomly do something like that, unless they were specifically glitch hunting, but even then it's unlikely they'd try something like this on that specific door. So while not entirely impossible, it is extremely likely that this skip would've never been found without a rookie player recording their playthrough. Most casuals do not record everything they play and wouldn't necessarily know the significance of finding something like this as they're not speedrunners. This makes you think, just how many significant skips are found and never recorded and spread?
Ive been watching Yogscast for over 13 years and this was absolutely huge, this has to be one if not the biggest moments since Volts "The Bomb", the boba skip will and forever be a trophy for Yogscast
this is so wholesome, i often see outsiders reffer to speed runners as snobby elitists that are up themselves constantly, but this throws that entire stigma out through the door (pun intended). the fact yall took her under your wing and treated her as an equal despite getting it as a complete fluke on her first playthrough and all worked as a team to make this reliably possible is so wholesome. welldone to everyone involved. im no speed runner and dont fully understand the appeal behind it, but i hope you awesome people have fun and i wish you all the best in your future runs
Call me cliche, but I teared up when you showed Kojima retweeted it.. This is amazing. ♥ Got yourself a new subscriber, even though am not a big speedrunner fan, however I LOVE MGS c:
I didn't elaborate further in the video, but Kojima retweeting it was a really big moment for speedrunners. Often when there's something to celebrate in speedrunning, there's always those negative comments about "oh you're just glitching your way through, that's not right" or "you shouldn't do this and play as the developer intended". Having Kojima show support for speedrunning like this really meant a lot to us.
@@NickRPGreen Thats so true! Devs showing support to the speedrunning community is a v good thing, and hopefully it will help silence those who say youre cheating or breaking the game. Keep up the great work fam c:
@@NickRPGreen this brought new perspective to me. i played alot of dk country for the snes and it bugged me when speed runners used glitches, but now if the dev said its cool for another game when i was younger then i guess why not in dk country?
I love how it really takes a whole community to do this. We have people who discover the bugs through creative endeavor, we have theory-crafters who understand the operation of a game and explain the mechanics, we have testers who evaluate different platforms and strategies, and we have skilled practitioners who put the final recipe together. Each person has different skills, and each person is necessary. Even if one isn't particularly good at making records, they still participate by e.g. testing all of the other doors in the game. It's really marvelous and wholesome to watch a group of people collaborate toward a common goal with such effortless efficiency.
The speedrun community needed Boba. She was new to the game so she was absolutely sure that the tower section cannot be real because she died there several times. She had enough of running this tower and couldn't believe Otacons Codec Speach. And as she was new she wiggled around at that door to get through and by a one in a million accident trying it there, she went through. Making something noone even considered. I love this so much, it has everything we love about videogames.
you hit the nail on the head completely. theres a old saying that fits perfectly "your brain never recognises what it isnt looking for" and thats so true. the community was focused on optimisation cause they didnt think something like this would be possible, but boba? she was looking for that way out of a deathloop. any little crumb of anything to progress, and it managed to luck out in the best way imaginable.
One day a woman played a Konami game for the first time, this results in hundreds of people obsessing on a stairwell for days. We live in a society and I love it lol 😂
The fact that a casual player can discover groundbreaking new strats on a first playthrough is pretty inspiring. Literally anyone can become a legend in the speedrunning community by accident xD
I had a similar thing happen in one of the batman games. I found that boat with the secret tanks of roaches and maps before anyone else but because I was playing alone and had NO idea what I was doing because I was free roaming on my friend's profile I never knew what I'd found and never told anyone because I was clueless lol
@@2001KW The speedrunning community had no knowledge of this bug prior to Boba's livestream, contrary to what you said in other comments. Even then, a revelation after the fact does not discredit how things transpired, even if it were indeed a rediscovery, with the greater impact Boba's clip had on solidifying the proof of such a bug.
I'd heard of this skip but wanted to find out more about how it works and the impact it had on speedruns. I never expected to find a video that covers this in this much depth! Fantastic work
It was _SO_ much fun watching all of this blow up when it happened. I'm just so glad that it resulted in a moment that brought so many people together, and you did a supremely great job covering everything around it in this video. Also, really happy for you to have had an extremely good time as a result of all of this as well! It's gotta feel a bit surreal experiencing those moments especially with the RT from Kojima and being any part of the whole community involved with it. Hope that the good times keep coming!!
Love that discord server screenshot "FUCK I OWE SOMEONE $1500 I DON'T WANNA SPEND $1500" That must be whoever put the bounty on barrierskip in Wind Waker
Semantics, but some categories had to reroute initially for the SOCOM. Once they figured out ways to use it with the routes they had prior, it ultimately became the same run, but with a difficulty spike cut out that nobody would miss. I get the point you're trying to make, that every single category benefits from it, which is indeed awesome.
Fantastic video. I just learned of the Boba Skip from Karl Jobst's recent Top 5 Speedrunning Moments of 2021 video and wanted to learn more about it. I knew nothing about MGS speed-running prior to this but this video was so well-made, informative, and engaging that I felt like I was living through the original hype!
@@2001KW You seem to be salty for no apparent reason. If most speedrunners remember, then why was everyone in the server wondering if it could be reproduced AFTER seeing it for themselves from that tweet? The Discord messages don't line up with the story you're trying to put out.
I don't watch MSG speedrun, but Boba skip was such a memorable thing that happened to the speedrun community I am still fond of remembering and listening to different people's perspective.
The crazy thing is, when you look at it at scale, people are doing this on their own every day in all kinds of games, but they aren't streaming to a large audience or aren't speedrunners, so they just shake their head and say, "That's weird," and then never think about it again.
@@Kasaaz A very very similar thing happened recently in Final Fantasy X - the Mushroom Rock Road skip. It all started from a player mentioning that he glitched through a person while afk like 15 years ago (when recording wasn't a thing) and people going absolutely mental and finding out he wasn't lying. There was a MASSIVE skip undiscovered! EDIT: And that one skips a whopping 20 minutes from the run!
It wasn't until I got to the 250 viewers part that I realized this is a small channel this is great work your passion really shows I thought I was watching a bigger channel just off of the quality of the video and detail it goes into great job
Someone should tell Boba that not only is naming skips after the person who found it a common practice, naming skips after people who had _nothing to do with the skip at all_ is also common. A good example is "Snow Dram" from Mario Odyssey, where the guy who found a particularly difficult trick jump named the skip after Dram15, a runner who found a completely different skip and insisted that it _not be named after him._ Not only did the community name the skip he found "Dram Skip," they named a few other skips after him just as a joke.
I love how speedrunning videos make everything sound like the most important, life changing and earth shattering thing ever. Loved the video and the passion btw.
Absolutely amazing video. Great breakdown of the events and general feel and tone of things :) I am also amused by some of the more salty comments, made by totally ignorant people trying to gain some measure of confirmation that they exist.
What a good bit of fun. What a thrill ride er'body has experienced. It's super sweet to see casual playthroughs deliver widespread excitement like this.
I remember me being 14 years old trying to beat this game. Took me about two months and help of a friend (freezing the Pal Key 🙄🙄) And now i see this run under 30 mins... Bruh...
But late to the party but, fantastic vid bro. I was captivated the whole time. I just find it amazing that a first time player completely revolutionised a 20+ year old game and it's speed running strategy. Quite simply, it's fascinating. It really opens your eyes to the possibility that there are most probably endless amounts of new strategies that are currently undiscovered in every game.
I can't believe an entire full length documentary exists about how someone found a way to make a speed run in a 24 year old video game a bit faster. .....and I just watched the entire thing and enjoyed it all. I'm not even interested in speed runs but you made the video enthralling from start to finish. Great video.
I love boba so much 😍and i love that the MGS community named the skip after her, yall could have named it kevin, or after the person who worked out how the skipped worked, or the person who first used it reliably, but you didnt
@@jeeves_uk by* not after very rarely after, that's why most are mundane and generally describe the action. You should probably think before you speak, if you think of some famous skips you'll realise your comment isnt even remotely true.
@@marti5420 no it is after, if it was by those who discovered it then boba would of named the skip herself. Also three instances of skips named after their respective runners was even shown on screen, there's no need to be rude so please take your head out of your backside.
@@jeeves_uk no it's by. Thing about literally ANY skip, they're nearly all named mundane names that describe the actions needed to perform the skip.... I get needing to mansplan and be correct, it's very important to the old ego, but you have to be correct first my dude. Please think
I love the fact that a game from 1998 that has a whole speedrunning community around it gets broken on fucking ACCIDENT!!!!! by a total newb!!! How insane is that!!!
I like the idea of naming a speedrunning strat like you're naming a pet. Imagine Weatherton naming the weathertenko Doug Also this specific section of the game is the only reason i've never beaten MGS1 because of the control compromises on PSP. If this had been discovered 10 years ago, i could have completed my first casual playthrough lol
I don't watch Metal Gear speedruns or look for this particular content but I really enjoyed watching this and glad I clicked. Its great when all the speed running community come together and figure out ways to perfect a newly discovered skip. Very wholesome!
I love watching people speedrun! I have never seen any Metal Gear Solid game in my life and frankly, don't really care about it. I was just watching a video from Anthony Padilla interviewing speedrunners Smallant and Pointcrow, and in the comment someone was talking about them remembering the Boba Skip, so I looked it up on youtube and found this video. Its amazing how fast the mgs speedrunning community managed to replicate it, and awesome to see the traction you gained from being the first person to do a sub 30. A lot of rambling from me but I wanted to thank you for the video, very entertaining! I'll check out some other vids and your stream sometime
Great video. Really broke it down well and discussed all the aspects of what this meant to us, others, the game and the skip in general. It was a delight to watch!
The old strategy for the "staircase frozen door" was to attach C-4 directly on the frozen door, and as long as you have the Level 6 card, the explosion unfreezes the door and it opens. However, you're more likely to incur damage and not survive while affixing the explosives to the door on any difficulty higher than "Easy". But the fact that glitches can still be found in a two-decade old game, I say Bravo! And Boba, you deserve all the credit for becoming a meme within a meme!
Abyssoft recently covered it, and it was featured as the number one speedrunning moment for Karl Jobst for last year. Would be cool to see Summoning Salt cover it too.
Prolly not tbh, Salt has stated that he isn't very familiar with games outside of old school Nintendo and Punch Out and that he doesn't like to venture too far out of his comfort zone, there's a much better chance that Speed Docs or Ricky would do one as they usually cover playstation speedruns
I got to see the result in AGDQ just hours ago, so I had to look it up which sent me to an article explaining it which sent me here! A fantastic example of how the internet can be a force for good and a triumph of the speedrunning community.
When i was young in the early 2000's i used to finish MGS at least 3 times every weekend. Remember that the WR was around 2 and a half hours when the vent glitch was discovered, it changed the game forever. It took a while to people discover the commtower broken stairs glitch. And boba skip is a great add to that hall of fame.
Great video mate, very informative and well written/spoken. I'm a speedrunning fan, but never played MGS before, still really enjoyed the deep dive. Subscribed. Hope to see more content like this in future
It's an honour to even just be a screenshot in your video. Thanks to you Nick, Boba and all the awesome speed runners who put so much hard work and passion into your hobby. You guys are awesome :)
You are an amazing creator for this epic game. Thank you so much for this, it really gave me great insight into how all this went down! Epic Journalism actually haha! Cheers!
Dont know if you know but just this week the Yogscast did their own little speedrun event (as part of a larger thing), and of course the final run was Boba doing the skip! Thats whats brought me here th-cam.com/video/Iv9zciJc2Ps/w-d-xo.html
Man I forgot you had put this together and TH-cam recommended it to me today. You did a fantastic job putting this together, Nick. Really informative and it pulls me right back into the excitement MGSR had just a few months ago. Good work!
Great video, I got to know about the boba skip when it happened through twitter especially karl jobst's tweet. Was a really surprising moment for anyone who even casually follows speedrunning and even for those who don't. This event was mentioned again in karl's latest video so wanted to know how far this skip helped. Your video sums it up perfectly and was very well made. Keep the work up dude hope you get the views you deserve.
Boba Skip itself isn't responsible for that. If you don't have the Stinger, that means you missed picking it up in the small room after the Boba Skip. If you picked it up but have 0/0 ammo, that means you skipped Sniper Wolf 1, as the rank up after her fight is what unlocks the use of the Stinger. If it's the latter, you're speedrunning Any% and did the vent skip in the Cell. You'll need to skip the Hind D fight as well, which has different methods depending whether you're playing PC or Console. Best suggestion would be to check out the speedrunning wiki, though I'm happy to direct you further if you can advise more about what kind of run you're doing: www.metalgearspeedrunners.com/wiki/doku.php?id=metal_gear_solid
@@NickRPGreen thank you so much, I did do the vent skip yeah, so I’m unable to use stinger. Been looking for ways to skip the hind d, I saw one video where one glitched the door and went straight to wolf 2 but I have no idea how..
@@leonschepers9022 That's the PC method you're describing. If that's the version you're playing, you want to look into the God Mode Exploit (GME). If you're on Console, you have to do what's called the Weapon Glitch and some other funky stuff. I've never actually done a Console speedrun so I'm not the best person to advise.
@@NickRPGreen i just realized i was watching your full 4 hr video explaining a lot, I’m just not sure how GME will help with not having stinger or does it unlock it? Or do I do the door skip .. probably.. sorry new to all this appreciate your help
I remember I had an emulation error back in 2016, the first time I played MGS (emulating it on my ps2 with OPL). At the time I didn't know what it was, but the door would just open for me, so I never completed the tower until 2019 when I played it on a PS3 lol
Watched this video some 1 year but the whole story still manages to impress me. Also: the Speedrunning Community once again managed to stand true to their description with the emphasis on _speed_ 😀 Amazing work, i salute you all
Probably, but discovery doesn't mean much if nobody knows or can replicate it, most major discoveries in history are not "First time someone ever observed event", they're the first time someone recorded it in a way that is shared, in a way that can be understood, reproduced or comprehended
friend was like "look up what happened with solid" first video result.... honestly as a random passerby the quality level for the overall video is really well done. kudos.
thanks dude, much appreciated
Very high quality video editing imo
This girl went from casual streamer in a community I've personally NEVER heard of (yogscast (probably because region)), to MG community rage, to speedrunning SENSATION, to getting mentioned across social media platforms, articles across the world, and even being mentioned by Hideo himself in the span of two days!? Her phone must have been on fire with notifications! What an overwhelming event congratulations to her. Truly a great discovery.
The crazy thing is, when you look at it at scale, people are finding stuff like this on their own every day in all kinds of games, but they aren't streaming to a large audience or aren't speedrunners, so they just shake their head and say, "That's weird," and then never think about it again.
I love how the whole speedrunning community jumped on this SO HARD that they had it fully understood, tweaked and improved it, and incorporated it into their routes/runs in LESS THEN 4 HOURS. Incredible.
Mgs is one of the best pieces of entertainment ever made and I truly feel bad for people who haven't got to experience it
Indeed.
"How do you kill that which has no life?"
@@jmath-_-317I beat the game a day ago for the first time and it was incredible
@seagull6636 Wait until you play the rest if you haven't I'm jealous!
@@seagull6636mad at you for going all this time without having done this yet jealous you experienced it for the first time
As a Yogscast fan and occasional journalist, I think you did a fantastic job creating this video. It helps me understand a community I didn't know anything about while also communicating the excitement as these events unfolded.
My favourite part of this is that runs without singing the song don't count.
I think the funniest thing about this whole saga was that Revolver Ocelot was able to accidentally troll a speedrunner with the bomb because its usual intended speedrunning purpose was rendered unnecessary and Nick forgot about it.
As a longtime Yogscast fan and someone who has gotten into speedrunning over the last few years, this was such a cool thing to watch unfold. Both the Yogscast and speedrunning communities are so great and so similar in a lot of ways. The fact that they run the Jingle Jam and GDQ, undeniably the biggest charity events in gaming just shows how generous and awesome both communities are.
If you think about it, there is something else quite significant about the Boba skip.
It's a kind of skip that only a casual player can find as an experienced player wouldn't normally randomly do something like that, unless they were specifically glitch hunting, but even then it's unlikely they'd try something like this on that specific door.
So while not entirely impossible, it is extremely likely that this skip would've never been found without a rookie player recording their playthrough. Most casuals do not record everything they play and wouldn't necessarily know the significance of finding something like this as they're not speedrunners.
This makes you think, just how many significant skips are found and never recorded and spread?
Ive been watching Yogscast for over 13 years and this was absolutely huge, this has to be one if not the biggest moments since Volts "The Bomb", the boba skip will and forever be a trophy for Yogscast
this is so wholesome, i often see outsiders reffer to speed runners as snobby elitists that are up themselves constantly, but this throws that entire stigma out through the door (pun intended). the fact yall took her under your wing and treated her as an equal despite getting it as a complete fluke on her first playthrough and all worked as a team to make this reliably possible is so wholesome. welldone to everyone involved. im no speed runner and dont fully understand the appeal behind it, but i hope you awesome people have fun and i wish you all the best in your future runs
Call me cliche, but I teared up when you showed Kojima retweeted it.. This is amazing. ♥ Got yourself a new subscriber, even though am not a big speedrunner fan, however I LOVE MGS c:
I didn't elaborate further in the video, but Kojima retweeting it was a really big moment for speedrunners. Often when there's something to celebrate in speedrunning, there's always those negative comments about "oh you're just glitching your way through, that's not right" or "you shouldn't do this and play as the developer intended". Having Kojima show support for speedrunning like this really meant a lot to us.
@@NickRPGreen Thats so true! Devs showing support to the speedrunning community is a v good thing, and hopefully it will help silence those who say youre cheating or breaking the game. Keep up the great work fam c:
@@NickRPGreen this brought new perspective to me. i played alot of dk country for the snes and it bugged me when speed runners used glitches, but now if the dev said its cool for another game when i was younger then i guess why not in dk country?
It should become tradition to sing the song when performing the Boba Skip
almost a year ago since this video was uploaded, but I still like coming back to this momentous incident just for the sheer wholesomeness!
I love how it really takes a whole community to do this. We have people who discover the bugs through creative endeavor, we have theory-crafters who understand the operation of a game and explain the mechanics, we have testers who evaluate different platforms and strategies, and we have skilled practitioners who put the final recipe together. Each person has different skills, and each person is necessary. Even if one isn't particularly good at making records, they still participate by e.g. testing all of the other doors in the game. It's really marvelous and wholesome to watch a group of people collaborate toward a common goal with such effortless efficiency.
This is easily one of my favourite comments, you hit the nail on the head perfectly. :)
The speedrun community needed Boba.
She was new to the game so she was absolutely sure that the tower section cannot be real because she died there several times. She had enough of running this tower and couldn't believe Otacons Codec Speach.
And as she was new she wiggled around at that door to get through and by a one in a million accident trying it there, she went through. Making something noone even considered.
I love this so much, it has everything we love about videogames.
Shame she wasn't the first
you hit the nail on the head completely. theres a old saying that fits perfectly "your brain never recognises what it isnt looking for" and thats so true. the community was focused on optimisation cause they didnt think something like this would be possible, but boba? she was looking for that way out of a deathloop. any little crumb of anything to progress, and it managed to luck out in the best way imaginable.
One day a woman played a Konami game for the first time, this results in hundreds of people obsessing on a stairwell for days. We live in a society and I love it lol 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The fact that a casual player can discover groundbreaking new strats on a first playthrough is pretty inspiring. Literally anyone can become a legend in the speedrunning community by accident xD
Isn't new though. Was first discovered in 1999
@@2001KW Clearly not, since you wont provide evidence
I had a similar thing happen in one of the batman games. I found that boat with the secret tanks of roaches and maps before anyone else but because I was playing alone and had NO idea what I was doing because I was free roaming on my friend's profile I never knew what I'd found and never told anyone because I was clueless lol
@@2001KW The speedrunning community had no knowledge of this bug prior to Boba's livestream, contrary to what you said in other comments. Even then, a revelation after the fact does not discredit how things transpired, even if it were indeed a rediscovery, with the greater impact Boba's clip had on solidifying the proof of such a bug.
I'd heard of this skip but wanted to find out more about how it works and the impact it had on speedruns. I never expected to find a video that covers this in this much depth! Fantastic work
Just came from Karl Jobst, this is so wholesome :)
Came from the comments talking of this video
That's funny I am to
I feel happy for Boba that she’s been immortalized in the MGS speed run world
now I'm waiting for Summoning Salt to make a vid about it.
It was _SO_ much fun watching all of this blow up when it happened. I'm just so glad that it resulted in a moment that brought so many people together, and you did a supremely great job covering everything around it in this video.
Also, really happy for you to have had an extremely good time as a result of all of this as well! It's gotta feel a bit surreal experiencing those moments especially with the RT from Kojima and being any part of the whole community involved with it. Hope that the good times keep coming!!
I just saw this mentioned in Karl Jobst’s video, and this is amazing. Seeing communities come together like this is just beautiful.
Being mentioned in one of Karl's videos is such an honour, an amazing suprise at the end of an amazing year.
Same here. Came looking for a video on it, and this one is really well done.
I keep finding myself coming back to this video lol
Love that discord server screenshot
"FUCK
I OWE SOMEONE $1500
I DON'T WANNA SPEND $1500"
That must be whoever put the bounty on barrierskip in Wind Waker
Right after offer $10000 for first reproduce lol.
That feeling when you find a skip and now the entire Speedrunning Community needs to reroute a run because your skip is so much faster.
Semantics, but some categories had to reroute initially for the SOCOM. Once they figured out ways to use it with the routes they had prior, it ultimately became the same run, but with a difficulty spike cut out that nobody would miss.
I get the point you're trying to make, that every single category benefits from it, which is indeed awesome.
Fantastic video. I just learned of the Boba Skip from Karl Jobst's recent Top 5 Speedrunning Moments of 2021 video and wanted to learn more about it. I knew nothing about MGS speed-running prior to this but this video was so well-made, informative, and engaging that I felt like I was living through the original hype!
Shame she wasn't the first to discover it. Was first discovered in 1999
@@2001KW Lies.
@@rothric5077 Yea it's no big deal though, most speedrunners remember anyway, let her have her 15 minutes bro, don't put hate on her
@@2001KW Prove that someone did the boba skip before boba did.
@@2001KW You seem to be salty for no apparent reason. If most speedrunners remember, then why was everyone in the server wondering if it could be reproduced AFTER seeing it for themselves from that tweet? The Discord messages don't line up with the story you're trying to put out.
I don't watch MSG speedrun, but Boba skip was such a memorable thing that happened to the speedrun community I am still fond of remembering and listening to different people's perspective.
Imagine being this girl: Casual player, not a speedrunner, accidentally stumbles across a significant skip for the speedrunning community.
The crazy thing is, when you look at it at scale, people are doing this on their own every day in all kinds of games, but they aren't streaming to a large audience or aren't speedrunners, so they just shake their head and say, "That's weird," and then never think about it again.
@@Kasaaz A very very similar thing happened recently in Final Fantasy X - the Mushroom Rock Road skip. It all started from a player mentioning that he glitched through a person while afk like 15 years ago (when recording wasn't a thing) and people going absolutely mental and finding out he wasn't lying. There was a MASSIVE skip undiscovered!
EDIT: And that one skips a whopping 20 minutes from the run!
It wasn't until I got to the 250 viewers part that I realized this is a small channel this is great work your passion really shows I thought I was watching a bigger channel just off of the quality of the video and detail it goes into great job
Damn! It's amazing that someone playing casually found such a crazy skip drove hardcore speedrunners mad to find a way to do it!
Someone should tell Boba that not only is naming skips after the person who found it a common practice, naming skips after people who had _nothing to do with the skip at all_ is also common. A good example is "Snow Dram" from Mario Odyssey, where the guy who found a particularly difficult trick jump named the skip after Dram15, a runner who found a completely different skip and insisted that it _not be named after him._ Not only did the community name the skip he found "Dram Skip," they named a few other skips after him just as a joke.
When speedrunners speedrun speedrunning strats
I love how speedrunning videos make everything sound like the most important, life changing and earth shattering thing ever.
Loved the video and the passion btw.
Absolutely amazing video. Great breakdown of the events and general feel and tone of things :) I am also amused by some of the more salty comments, made by totally ignorant people trying to gain some measure of confirmation that they exist.
You have some skill as an editor and commentator. That's for sure.
What a good bit of fun. What a thrill ride er'body has experienced.
It's super sweet to see casual playthroughs deliver widespread excitement like this.
It’s possible in the new MGS Collection Vol 1 too on PS5
I was in the stream when she did it, but I had no idea it was a novel sequence break.
Congrats to her ! Lady managed to set the events in motion for a major speerunning change without even trying ! BRA-VO !
I remember me being 14 years old trying to beat this game. Took me about two months and help of a friend (freezing the Pal Key 🙄🙄)
And now i see this run under 30 mins...
Bruh...
Amazing video and explanation!! Such an exciting time for the speedrunning community 😄
Jobst sent me here
Yep.
Who's Jobst?
@@ChristianCastle
Karl Jobst. He's a TH-camr that does in depth reviews of speedruns and other gaming related stuff. I recommend his channel
Boba's reaction and especially her tweet are absolutely hysterical.
Help? lol instant love for her.
But late to the party but, fantastic vid bro. I was captivated the whole time.
I just find it amazing that a first time player completely revolutionised a 20+ year old game and it's speed running strategy.
Quite simply, it's fascinating. It really opens your eyes to the possibility that there are most probably endless amounts of new strategies that are currently undiscovered in every game.
that glitch is not impressive at all when you know what people did in other games.
@@entasis704 nobody asked.
Such a wholesome story. Great to have it all recorded in a quality video
"I owe someone $1,500, I don't want to owe someone $1,500!" That killed me! Lol.
Excellent video! Really good recap.
Fan of the Yogscast since 2011, but I missed her stream. Still kicking myself over that!!
I can't believe an entire full length documentary exists about how someone found a way to make a speed run in a 24 year old video game a bit faster. .....and I just watched the entire thing and enjoyed it all. I'm not even interested in speed runs but you made the video enthralling from start to finish. Great video.
search "speedrun world record history" and go wild, there's hundreds of these and some of them 3 times the length
Same here. I got sucked into a Summoning Salt rabbit hole and that's how I ended up here. No regrets.
The Boba skip fanart is just the best!
You need more subscriber.
No i mean you deserve more sub for that quality of a video
I'm so proud of our little Boba🥺🥺🥰🥰
84 two minute time saves... Holy cow that's a nice skip. She really is living the best life ever. She beat the video game.
Great video Nick, proud of you
I can't wait for the summoningsalt documentary on mgs speedrunning and this arc comes up
This was exactly what I was thinking lol
I love boba so much 😍and i love that the MGS community named the skip after her, yall could have named it kevin, or after the person who worked out how the skipped worked, or the person who first used it reliably, but you didnt
Skips are named after those who discover them.
@@jeeves_uk by* not after
very rarely after, that's why most are mundane and generally describe the action. You should probably think before you speak, if you think of some famous skips you'll realise your comment isnt even remotely true.
@@marti5420 no it is after, if it was by those who discovered it then boba would of named the skip herself. Also three instances of skips named after their respective runners was even shown on screen, there's no need to be rude so please take your head out of your backside.
@@jeeves_uk no it's by. Thing about literally ANY skip, they're nearly all named mundane names that describe the actions needed to perform the skip.... I get needing to mansplan and be correct, it's very important to the old ego, but you have to be correct first my dude. Please think
@@marti5420 boba didn't name the skip. She wanted it to be called Kevin. And nobody is mansplaining anything you're just letting your misandry show.
I love the fact that a game from 1998 that has a whole speedrunning community around it gets broken on fucking ACCIDENT!!!!! by a total newb!!! How insane is that!!!
Broken by not broken on
Never played Metal Gear Solid but this was so well done, I watched the whole thing lol
I like the idea of naming a speedrunning strat like you're naming a pet. Imagine Weatherton naming the weathertenko Doug
Also this specific section of the game is the only reason i've never beaten MGS1 because of the control compromises on PSP. If this had been discovered 10 years ago, i could have completed my first casual playthrough lol
I don't watch Metal Gear speedruns or look for this particular content but I really enjoyed watching this and glad I clicked. Its great when all the speed running community come together and figure out ways to perfect a newly discovered skip. Very wholesome!
I love watching people speedrun! I have never seen any Metal Gear Solid game in my life and frankly, don't really care about it. I was just watching a video from Anthony Padilla interviewing speedrunners Smallant and Pointcrow, and in the comment someone was talking about them remembering the Boba Skip, so I looked it up on youtube and found this video. Its amazing how fast the mgs speedrunning community managed to replicate it, and awesome to see the traction you gained from being the first person to do a sub 30.
A lot of rambling from me but I wanted to thank you for the video, very entertaining! I'll check out some other vids and your stream sometime
I hate that rappel section. I guess you could say I never got the hang of it ;)
God I love the speedrunning community. Gotta find a game I can enjoy speedrunning properly 😂 waiting for Metroid Dread to drop...
Great video. Really broke it down well and discussed all the aspects of what this meant to us, others, the game and the skip in general. It was a delight to watch!
you have one of best yt commentary voices i have ever heard
I love it when this community has something to celebrate. Long live MGS
Hell yeah
Incredible video, enjoyed every moment of it. Here, have your 500th sub!
Awesome content Bro! This channel is going to blow up!
The old strategy for the "staircase frozen door" was to attach C-4 directly on the frozen door, and as long as you have the Level 6 card, the explosion unfreezes the door and it opens.
However, you're more likely to incur damage and not survive while affixing the explosives to the door on any difficulty higher than "Easy".
But the fact that glitches can still be found in a two-decade old game, I say Bravo! And Boba, you deserve all the credit for becoming a meme within a meme!
This is so well done. It felt like I was watching an averagetreyVG video.
I wonder if summoning salt will do a video on this.
Abyssoft recently covered it, and it was featured as the number one speedrunning moment for Karl Jobst for last year. Would be cool to see Summoning Salt cover it too.
Prolly not tbh, Salt has stated that he isn't very familiar with games outside of old school Nintendo and Punch Out and that he doesn't like to venture too far out of his comfort zone, there's a much better chance that Speed Docs or Ricky would do one as they usually cover playstation speedruns
I got to see the result in AGDQ just hours ago, so I had to look it up which sent me to an article explaining it which sent me here! A fantastic example of how the internet can be a force for good and a triumph of the speedrunning community.
Really well written and edited video, honestly some amazing and accessible content! Super great job
When i was young in the early 2000's i used to finish MGS at least 3 times every weekend.
Remember that the WR was around 2 and a half hours when the vent glitch was discovered, it changed the game forever.
It took a while to people discover the commtower broken stairs glitch.
And boba skip is a great add to that hall of fame.
Great video mate, very informative and well written/spoken. I'm a speedrunning fan, but never played MGS before, still really enjoyed the deep dive. Subscribed. Hope to see more content like this in future
It's an honour to even just be a screenshot in your video. Thanks to you Nick, Boba and all the awesome speed runners who put so much hard work and passion into your hobby. You guys are awesome :)
You are an amazing creator for this epic game. Thank you so much for this, it really gave me great insight into how all this went down! Epic Journalism actually haha! Cheers!
Dont know if you know but just this week the Yogscast did their own little speedrun event (as part of a larger thing), and of course the final run was Boba doing the skip! Thats whats brought me here th-cam.com/video/Iv9zciJc2Ps/w-d-xo.html
I did yeah, she gave me a little shout-out on Twitter ❤️
@@NickRPGreen Nice!
Man I forgot you had put this together and TH-cam recommended it to me today. You did a fantastic job putting this together, Nick. Really informative and it pulls me right back into the excitement MGSR had just a few months ago. Good work!
Banger Video Nick
Beautiful video!
You being hyped for being included and having your video embedded was so wholesome 😭
So proud of what's been happening.
Everybody plays their own ROMs 😉
Holy shit! This game is still going with new stuff almost 25 years later.
KEVIN
Great video, I got to know about the boba skip when it happened through twitter especially karl jobst's tweet. Was a really surprising moment for anyone who even casually follows speedrunning and even for those who don't. This event was mentioned again in karl's latest video so wanted to know how far this skip helped. Your video sums it up perfectly and was very well made. Keep the work up dude hope you get the views you deserve.
To think it took 20+ years to discover ...
I came here from tharixers channel after deciding this series would be my first run. This is an awesome story, and I'm glad I found your channel.
Has anyone attempted this on twin snakes??
Yes, sadly it doesn't work.
completely different coding bro.
If you have a door problem then chuck it out the window
You did a really good job on this video! My friends and I just watched and loved it, great coverage. Thanks
After the boba skip I can not use stinger to fight hind D, how do you solve this?
Boba Skip itself isn't responsible for that. If you don't have the Stinger, that means you missed picking it up in the small room after the Boba Skip. If you picked it up but have 0/0 ammo, that means you skipped Sniper Wolf 1, as the rank up after her fight is what unlocks the use of the Stinger.
If it's the latter, you're speedrunning Any% and did the vent skip in the Cell. You'll need to skip the Hind D fight as well, which has different methods depending whether you're playing PC or Console. Best suggestion would be to check out the speedrunning wiki, though I'm happy to direct you further if you can advise more about what kind of run you're doing: www.metalgearspeedrunners.com/wiki/doku.php?id=metal_gear_solid
@@NickRPGreen thank you so much, I did do the vent skip yeah, so I’m unable to use stinger. Been looking for ways to skip the hind d, I saw one video where one glitched the door and went straight to wolf 2 but I have no idea how..
@@leonschepers9022 That's the PC method you're describing. If that's the version you're playing, you want to look into the God Mode Exploit (GME). If you're on Console, you have to do what's called the Weapon Glitch and some other funky stuff. I've never actually done a Console speedrun so I'm not the best person to advise.
@@NickRPGreen i just realized i was watching your full 4 hr video explaining a lot, I’m just not sure how GME will help with not having stinger or does it unlock it? Or do I do the door skip .. probably.. sorry new to all this appreciate your help
@@NickRPGreen yeah PC.
I remember I had an emulation error back in 2016, the first time I played MGS (emulating it on my ps2 with OPL). At the time I didn't know what it was, but the door would just open for me, so I never completed the tower until 2019 when I played it on a PS3 lol
Watched this video some 1 year but the whole story still manages to impress me.
Also: the Speedrunning Community once again managed to stand true to their description with the emphasis on _speed_ 😀
Amazing work, i salute you all
Some 7 year old kid in 1998 probably did this on their ps1
100%.
Then told their friends but nobody believed them.
Probably, but discovery doesn't mean much if nobody knows or can replicate it, most major discoveries in history are not "First time someone ever observed event", they're the first time someone recorded it in a way that is shared, in a way that can be understood, reproduced or comprehended
IT'S NOT THE BOBA SKIP MOOOOM!
ITS KEEEVINNNN!