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Skyrim - The Argonian’s SECRET Potential - Elder Scrolls Lore
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In our latest Elder Scrolls video we investigate the hidden potential of argonians.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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Pity there's only one Shadowscale left.
*Astrid makes a bad deal*
Pity there's no Shadowscales left.
@Opus Fluke in Skyrim. They got a whole school of Black Scales in Argonia.
Opus Fluke f
@@fumarc4501 They don't.
It’s not like birth sign disappeared it just means there will be shadow scales without training. All it takes is a shadow scale finding some tomes and boom the order is back up and running
@@PlayerJay425 It really doesn't, with no one left who lived with those traditions passed down to them, it will never truly be as it was.
The fact that Argonians get their physical forms from the environment depending where the Hist are located makes me wonder what would happen if the Hist were located in a non-swamp environment such as mountains. Would the Argonians adapt to the environment by becoming an avian-like race? Their possibilities are fascinating.
TheCrimsonElite666 there happens to be winged Argonians that start with an S but I can’t quite remember what they are called
So they'd evolve to be dragons.
Little late on this comment, but I wonder what they’d look like if they were in Valenwood? Maybe they’d look like elves named after some aspect of trees....Wood elves perhaps?
@@mikal9904 sarpa
Argonians could definitely build an empire now with the Dunmer being in no position to stop them and the Empire and Dominion being in a weakened state due to the war and them also focusing solely on each other for the war to come, a lot of potential in Black Marsh
Sadly for the minimalist philosophy, and nomadic lifestyle they don't seem to really grasp that potential themselves. Fortunately they realized their militaristic potential though...
Argonian Gang✊🦎
Scaly bois unite. 🦎
@@rsh4599 If the Argonians don't realise the advantageous position they're in the Hist will recognise it for them, that's the beauty of being slaves to ancient Tree God(s)
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@@rsh4599 Lol, I'd prefer to live as a hunter on an impenetrable province of marshes serving a tree god that can make me become a supersoldier than being a sad imperial surrounded by enemy soldiers and a crumbling society filled with rebellions for example, and while I do think the dark elves will be able to rebuild themselves, their current situation doesn't help either. And to be honest the Khajiit are too busy dealing with the re-estabilishment of their two kingdoms as Thalmor puppets to care about invading people from the east. So yeah, the Argonians not only have the potential to start an empire but ONE HELL OF AN EMPIRE...
I don't think I ever have more fun than being an Argonian in the Elder Scrolls. Being Immune or having high resistance to Poison and Disease is great paired with their Hist Regeneration daily. Breathing underwater is really cool as well, lol
sad redguard noises
Argonian vampires are SUPERRRR OP
It’s pretty useful when in combat and needing to hide to heal
Argonians have been my favorite for a while now. I wish we could get a full fledged ES title that takes place in Black Marsh.
Haggard Blaggard DONT FORGET about khajiit
Idk I see problems with setting an open world game in a mostly swamp biome setting
@@longdukdon5094 Well, while that might be true, remember we have never truly seen how central or southern Black Marsh really is like. It could be a more tropical environment, like southern Elsweyr, or damn, even just a big Field area. Also, I think if the devs were going to make an Elder Scrolls situated on a beast province I guess they would just make the 2 of them together, so there would be a LOT of diversity on that game, no need to worry.
Long Duk Don It would be so brilliant and immersive
The big problem with that, at least from a lore perspective, is that except for some settlements on the borders, the swamps of Argonia are supposed to be so disease ridden that literally only Argonians can survive there.
Regardless of anything. .......I'll always play as an Argonian
Lol
I play as them because they are one of the most interesting races.
They have a unique inhuman charm.
Nyghtking me too
Also in skyrim not only do they carry over their ability to breath underwater but they come with 50% poison and disease resistance and a healing power to boot which is great for newcomers of the elder scrolls series
Ironically hist skin makes them the best choice for a tanky character.
I think the Hist know (or perhaps evolution has informed their biology), that creating -- let's face it, Godzillas -- to attack the rest of the world is a bad idea simply because the Hist aren't suited for any biomes outside of Black Marsh. If you unleash that kind of force, it will conquer, but when it's done, it will be compelled to return, and it will have been accustomed to conquest and destruction. Instead, the Hist focus their energies on maintaining their home, and allow their progeny, the Argonians, to seethe into the outside world.
They remind me of wood cutter ants. They don’t kill other species in mass, instead they gather leaves(knowledge) and feed the fungi(Hist) that provide them all the sustenance they require. Only in this case the Hist are also the Queens.
Historically the hist inhabited all of tamreil. And just like tress create froests and swamps. Yes swamps form because of trees. Think of what tree gods could do. They need only create a plague that kills off all the other races besides argonians. They could then rapidly take over tamriel.
It is believed that the sleeping tree in skyrim is a hist tree.
I think it would be possible for the Hist to create super lizards but that kind of obvious display of power would draw some unwanted attention to the Hists.
Argonians: Quickly adapt to new environments through the power of the Hist.
Also Argonians: "All I ask is for a pair of boots, how hard could it be?"
They're still my favorite.
So.. All those lewd mods that I apply to my argonian character that apply much "girth" are cannon?
Xenfus pretty much
Of course
lore friendly
That's why people download it of course. Gotta get that lore friendly mods
It's Immersive as fuck!
Well there are two others. Their overpowering lust, and ability to grow ash yams.
If the rest of the races knew what the Argonians could do I think that would motivate them to destroy Black Marsh out of fear which is probably why it's kept mostly a secret.
How, they can not enter the marsh, it is poisonous for non argonians!!
@@Blagraite The reason they don't is because they were never very motivated to do so in the first place nobody really wants to live in black marsh.
Give the Empire and Elves a real motivating reason to do so and they'll find away though.
@@GUMMRUCHK no they not
Tiago Fermino Cachoeira you doubt the prowess of the nords?
@@gadellomagnollo1810 If the Argonians transform like during the Oblivion crisis it'll be a bitch of a fight but the races of men have defeated worse things than extra beefy Argonians.
So you're saying that if I tickled an argonian under their chin they would open their mouth on instinct?
Omg.... tickle-my-chin as a female argonian and a male named tickles-her-chin. Idk why i found that funny.
I like to test that theory and I’ll gladly be the hamster of that.
I was very tired while watching this so I may have misheard, but didn't he say specifically infant argonians have that? But yes this was funny, good job.
if there mouth is as large as a crock. i feel sorry for u mate
Spyboy62 ah I see. Thanks.
I love argonians so much I have my argonian Dragonborn tattooed on my arm 😂🥰
Please say sike.
Honestly that sounds awesome
I love how you’re using some ESO footage. That game has so many great Elder Scrolls locations.
Ahh waking up to a video on my favorite scaly friends. 👏🏻
Argonians aren't just restricted to lizard variants. According to in game lore books, they also have members who resemble snakes and frogs!
Transfer a hist tree to the middle of the greenpact zone. Seems like they would be natural allies.
The wood elves who can actually talk to trees have a lot of potential as allies to the hist.
Great summation of lore points, it is in line with what I have essentially preached about Argonians for years.
You brought up the physical changes changes described in the Infernal City books and even refer to current ESO. How could you not capture footage of an Argonian Behemoth? There are numerous examples in ESO. The mid-level boss through Mazzatun Xal-Nur, the Maelstrom Arena Swamp stage boss. Random Behemoths wander around Murkmire as well. They are perhaps the most accurate and extreme depiction of just how much an Argonian can be changed and perfectly support the points you are making.
Because ESO isn't canon.
@@sethwarren1445 yes it is. lol
@@sethwarren1445 it is canon
I've been researching a lot about Argonians and I've finally decided to give them a go. Installed a spear mod that allows me to dual wield a spear and magic (both are used by the Argonians).
In my headcanon he is a young fisherman and smuggler who was born in Black Marsh. Hungry for adventure, he is summoned by the Hist tree in his village to deal with "great sorrows in the north". He goes to Skyrim, gets captured by the Imperials at Dark Water Crossing, and his adventure begins.
Two champions, you guys keep putting out great content even with disaster going on down there. As a asthmatic i worry about smoke inhalation, keep safe!
Now I wonder if the argonians have a ritual like the bosmer wild hunt ritual which allows them to turn into terrifying monsters as the argonians are without a doubt the most suited race for such a transformation, and they are likely the most able to under go such a transformation
Google "Argonian Behemoth ESO"
That story of the ancestors lizard is so trippy, it could remember wandering around like a mindless beast would. Then it drank the sap and suddenly sentience
Imagine if years from now, we get a game set in Black Marsh. I think that'd be pretty cool to see.
in 2040 Maybe
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Great Video on Argonians, underrated race.
Very underrated
The Hist are the very embodiment of the long game. Even Argonian lives are fleeting moments compared to the Now of the eternal trees.
so basicallu argonians are lizards that did dmt
Yah pretty much. Drugs are awesome, right?
You missed the part where in Skyrim they can give birth like mammals. Argonian Vagene confirmed
Maybe they have clutches in warmer climates and with ample Hist sap, but in colder climates without Hist trees they fertilize fewer eggs and carry them as a defense against the cold. Similar in appearance to “live birth.”
Don't tell Joe Rogan
They’re turning the FROGS GAY
In my head canon the Hist are a bioengineering sci-fi species. They ”saw” the nifty mobile ten-fingered android forms of the elves and reverse engineered it.
The primary purpose of argonians is to move around and experience things and interact with other intelligent beings, and then die and decompose within reach of Hist root tendrils, allowing the Hist to absorb and integrate their accumulated data. They give the Hist a vicarious experience of an approximation of mortal sentient life.
The secondary purpose of argonians is to tend and protect the Hist trees. And the reason I believe this is secondary, is that the Hist are generally perfectly able to take care of themselves. Like I said, bioengineers. If something tried to eat on or infect them, the’d just redesign it. In fact, I would guess that the astonishing amount of poison and diseases in the depths of Blackmarsh is the result of Hist terraforming the local biomes for comfort and defense.
Tertiary purpose of argonians is, well, whatever they want themselves. They are after all sentient beeings in their own right. If they want to play bone flutes and make frog instruments, or dance, or worship Sithis or write books on the unbearable lightness of being dwemer, I don’t think the Hist mind. As long as it doesn’t interfere with their important functions.
I also imagine that the Hist experience time differently. Slower. Their primary communication with their quasi independent lizard biodroids is chemical, histsap input (design tinkering and base motivation) when they are infants, and information absorption and processing after their limited life spans. Maybe there is some real time communication as well, but I imagine that is for special situations. For instance I imagine building pyramids and starting an empire was something the argonians thought of themselves. And the Hist eventually disapproved and shut it down. Maybe they actually talked to some argonians and told them monumental architecture was wrong thought. Or maybe they just tinkered with the histsap and gave the next generations a sense that these big stone buildings were silly and impractical and that mud huts was the way to go.
Argonians are actually very powerful in Skyrim. Histskin stacks with all the other possible health regeneration things. And Waterbreathing means one free enchanting slot, something that otherwise the Breton get by not having to invest in magicka resistance.
So for the next ES game, id like to see something new/different and would like to know if anyone or the guys at fudgemuppet would like this idea:
Picking our race determines our starting location and a bit of the character background. This will tie in racial factions, location factions, guilds and such. Now heres the kicker, there will be an avatar of the unselected races in the game doing things either with or against you. Each race would have a reason to have a champion for whatever reason. Say you start as a dunmer. Itd be possible to assinate/hire someone to kill for you any of the other avatars before starting the main game due to the nature of the long forgotten morag tong and ties to the dark brotherhood. Some races would be easier to start but harder endgame and vice versa. And id like to add more immersion based on lore: worship, eating specific foodstuffs, marriage, bosmer problems, khajiit problems, hist lickin, etc.
Something like that in the mod nexxus. It's called alternate start
@@Legendbound-pe1dd yeah i know, but im saying it would be nice if it was standard and not a mod.
3:58 man the hist do defy the laws of nature, the light on the water 😅
Lizard men are cool
Hippity Hoppity, Argonians are Properry.
i love the lore storytelling, however, that random Khajiit tho :')
This one just ride into the night
FudgeMuppet: Argonians.
Me: You son of a bitch, I'm in.
Yup, not even the "great" Tiber Septim with his giant magical robot could conquer central argonia, it is the only independent country since the beginning of the time!!
So that's why they look different in every single Elder Scrolls game.
this is great and all... but we just want another volume of The Lusty Argonian Maid
Can Argonians interbreed? What would a cross between the species be?
They can pretend to.
But they cant really. They werent created by the gods. So... no.
I mean I guess anything is possible through the hist.
@Wirr Ling but they can try!
It is strange how similar the adaptability of the argonians is to that of the nirnroot. Might there possibly be a connection between the hist trees and the nirnroot
We see one of these physical forms on the form of the Argonian Behemoth in the arena on eso
the intros that you give are far better than any other, the quotes just get me everytime! 😁
No longer surprised at the videos for a 9+ year old game. I respect Bethesda for making such a fantastic game.
Hist Tree....History. A link to the time stream? Maybe Argonians are from the future?
Make a video about home/purchasable house mods! It'll be awesome!
Saw this title and knew it wouldn’t be a video by Scott
Seeing the Argonians practising with there native weapons the spear almost brings tears to my eyes. I still cant belive Oblivion and Skyrim did not have spears. .. or ESO ... like come on ! Sure its the poor mans weapon but there great ! Good ol Morrowind Spear of Bitter Mercy was epic fun.
Fudgemuppet: the argonians have a secret potential!
Viewers: what?
Fudgemuppet: the lusty argonian maid!!!
Elder Scrolls 6 plot- in the hundred or so years after skyrim, the argonians launched a surprise invasion on the Aldmeri dominion, pushing them out of mainland tamriel. They then continue to fight northward, attacking the empire and are the main antagonist faction in the game.
Always love your videos mate seriously keep it up god bless brother 🙏🙏
Lmao I started my first skyrim file in months, and it happens to be an unarmed argonian, going around punching everything and everyone
you heard it here folks, The Elder Scrolls 6: When Argonians Attack!
As a trans lizard, I'm so glad you're putting the spotlight on our tree overlords! Keep up the great work!
You guys always upload on time. Thank you lol
Argonians will be the next superpower of Tamriel.
The Argonians are slaves to the Hist. The Hist only made the Argonians stronger when it was threatened by the daedric hordes.
The other races have had there time in the spotlight now it’s the argonians time to shine
*Alligator Deathroll*
We need a puppet master build remaster
isn't somebody who studies Argonians and the past of black marsh a.. Hist-orian?
Did you heard Argonians ? They invaded OBLİVİON OBLİVİON !!
CRACKHEAD LIZARD GANG!!! Btw these videos are so well put together, I'm amazed really.
Are the Hist potentially Ehlnofey/Aedra who were bound to Mundus and didn’t escape to Aetherius with Magnus?
It’s cannon that some of the original spirits cut themselves up into different forms and bound themselves to Mundus in order to keep it in existence. It’s also cannon that Mundus is said to be made up of many other worlds, one of them being the Ehlnofey world, which survived mostly intact (which would explain why the Hist are only in black marsh)
BROOOO PLS MAKE A TUTORIAL ON THE REMASTERED GHOSTBLADE BUILD FACE:(
Do a video about kothringi please
It would be interesting to see an elder scrolls overhead stratagy game where you play as a hist tree commander with legions of argonians fighting under your command.
I feel like a lot of elder scrolls works for an rts game
This is absolutely nuts to think about, but phenomenal nonetheless
Another video about my favourite ES race. Thank you.
I’m gonna go eat some tree sap and see if I can turn into a lizard
It wandered listlessly? No. It wandered histlessly.
My favorit race in elder scrolls so freaking awesome
11:30 that alliteration was tasty
A few questions I'd appreciate your takes on:
(1) Did the Hists know about the coming of Alduin and the return of Dragons? Or was Alduin's "banishment" a special case? If they did know, were they aware of the Argonian Dragonborn(assuming of course the player chose Argonian)?
(2) The Hists are somewhat connected to Sithis, right? Sithis wishes to bring reality back to perfect nonexistence, right? If the Hists were aligned to that wish, wouldn't the Argonians ally with the Thalmor, and by extension, the Aldmeri Dominion? Could that be the ultimate goal of the Hists; the nullification of the universe?
(3) Bear with me here. What exactly does it take to "create" a divine? Tiber Septim only ascended to divinity, becoming Talos, after his death, right? How did the living gods come to be? Were they just mortals who grew to become so revered that they simply became vastly more powerful than a mere mortal? Or were they simply blessed by another divine with ascension? We know a divine's power is directly tied to their reverence, so could it be possible to intentionally "manufacture" a god? Could the Hists set out to do this for the aforementioned purpose of usurping the other Aedra, and eventually cast down the Daedra, eliminating all divines so that none could prevent the nullification?
Gods may he created but only by yourself achieving Chim. That god may then gain or lose power depending on worship received.
2) Sithis is the force of change. There is no constancy in it. To return to non-existence is to return to constancy and there can be no constancy.
They may have known and not acted, knowing it was the Dragonborn's destiny to defeat Alduin.
Or they may not have known.
I don't always wear leather boots but when I do it's Argonian leather.
Nihilistic, adaptive, transgender reptilian spies - Note to self: Make an Argonian character called Double Trouble.
Mese Ktet sounds like most of the girls at my highschool.
Sounds kinda like myself lmao xD
It's actually not that hard to imagine humans giving birth his egg...becausecwe do. Ours is just soft and fleshy while the Argoneans (and our reptilian ancestor’s) was/is hard.
If nature deemed that it would e more advantageous for us to lay an egg that hardened and sheltered a baby outside the body, it wouldn’t be much different to what a woman does now, though a soft egg would be easier to pass through the vagina (even if it was the size of a newborn) then a full term baby, and with less risk to mom, but more risk to the little cell clump as a baby in an egg is more vulnerable than a baby in a human.
kind of funny they pretty much just have the ninja turtles backstory
Argonians are the best race next to khajiit. Especially in eso. I can swim faster than most can sprint. Everywhere has water.
Imagine The Argonian's building an Empire and launching a second attack on Morrowind.
Ever thought about making these into podcasts or audiobooks
KHAJIIT AND ARGONIANS forever!!!!!!!
I feel like the Hist is either not as powerful as we all think, or they made it so powerful because they will never use it in any of the games.
Cuz lets be real, if it can shapeshift Argonians into ANYTHING, that could make them waaaaaaaaay more powerful than dragons or even Daedras.
The hist (seen in the oblivion crisis), takes these actions to protect itself . It doesn't seem into anything more than ensuring its on survival. So as far as taking over all Tameriel is concerned, it sees no benefit to itself in that.
So, hist sap is like the monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey?
Hey guys, I've recently stumbled upon your channel. And I've been really digging the Skyrim and F4 builds because I love to roleplay. Any chance you guys could include character presets in the future or even existing ones? That'd be very much appreciated.
So argonians are like the na'vi race on Pandora from the movie Avatar?
They are my favorite race to play and in general
Master race incoming.
I just want my raptor feet back
Argonians were the race with the least lore before The Elder Scrolls Online, even less than Bretons:
>Poisonous swamps make Black Marsh impossible / not worth invading
>many Argonians were taken as slaves in Morrowind (introduced TES3)
>Sentient Hist trees, memories, souls
>Shadowscales (TES4)
>Hist sap
>Morrowind gets sacked by an Argonian invasion lead by the An-Xileel after the Red Year, only stopped by Redoran's forces (introduced in TES5)
>The Hist foresee Mehrunes Dagon's invasion, recall and strengthen the Argonians back to Black Marsh, the nationalistic An-Xileel rise to power after they invade the Deadlands and scare off the Daedric hordes (introduced in a novel released after TES5)
>in terms of gameplay, Argonians "evolved" from Spear, Mysticism and Illusion to Lockpicking, Sneak, etc. to Lockpicking, Restoration, Alteration and Sneak from TES3 through TES5, being further developed into the definitive healers in ESO.
The great potential of defense against whips hitting their backs for bad work
One word. Epigenetics
On a unrelated note, i have a theory and would like some feedback on it. The upcoming Skyrim expansion for ESO i think is going to be a 2 year long release with Western and Southern Skyrim released in 2020 and Central(whiterun) and Northern(winterhold and solstiem) released in 2021 in time for Skyrim 10 year anniversary. Also i think greymoor2020 will be based on Vampires but maybe Solstiem will be Werewolf or Werebeast based and maybe have a chace at picking a new werebeast to ultimate werewolf with, also the College of Winterhold will definately play a major role in 2021 storyline which i think will have something to do with the Aeonstone power.
I do not think so. I think that next year ZOS will intruduce some parts of Hammerfell or some parts of Cyrodiil.
@@mechkota idk i think the 10 year anniversary tie in is the lynchpin im thinkin we see more hammerfell in eso when TES 6 starts gets more buzz n release footage ie 2022/2023ish
@@matthewbush1233 I do not think that they are going to use the same province next year. Hamerfell is the best choice cuz it is a desert and it is the opisite of skyrim.
Is the secret ability being great workers (posted before I watched video)
Could you possibly put all your Skyrim lore content into a playlist?
The lizards are my favorite race.
I’d like to see Black Marsh post Oblivion Crisis. If the Daedra had to close the gates on their end, does that mean some Argonians were trapped on the Oblivion side and can those those Gates can be reopened?
They are probably thriving and just own that part of the Dead lands!
To feed Drew’s scaly fetish
Loreshelter Oh no
To feed Crassius Curio's scaly fetish.
Ro Jaws Nah bro, if you look deep into the lore, it’s confirmed that Drewston dreams of raw-dogging komodo dragons
@@loreshelter1149 If you say so. I think I will not look deeper into this subject.
Got it. So Argonians are the in-game canonical reason a player can be leader of every faction, master of every fighting type, a master wizard while being a master fighter, etc. The Hist grew them that way. Also why we have players-guide knowledge of any event we enter; Hist overmind and memory, downloaded into the Dragonborn. And for the 'Last Dragonborn' Argonian, the Hist put together a bunch of them, looking like every race, just to see how they would work and be accepted.
Does the specter need a remaster?
Beautiful as always, l sure wish the vanilla, unmodded game was a quarter of the quality of your videos. I'm getting stuck in rock floors and walls like never before. The sky use to be ever changing and the running water looked so real. I'm seeing glitches lve never seen in the first 3 dozen play through's. Disheartening
The sky is worse now...? But yeah, Bethesda always was pretty lame, they just had the luck to have some very creative people working there.