@Wirr Ling death brings a clarity that mortals are never privy to. Your wrongs are brought down upon your psyche, and your rights seem small in comparison. Death is the greatest equalizer of all, for it is the one thing we all have in our future.
@Wirr Ling becoming the god of worms and a literal planetoid that blocks Arkay's own planetoid at certain points in the calendar does kinda take away from the whole being dead thing
@@LokiSeidrGod I used to be a mortician, it's what I would tell everyone who was afraid they were about to die, or those who thought they were too rich to be buried in a cemetery or mausoleum
The reason Tamriel remembers Ysgramor's migration rather than the Nedic ones is because Ysgramor's Atmorans didn't end up getting put underfoot and enslaved by Mer.
Nord's are strong and tough as the land they live in. They have hearts of Steel and an Iron Will. If you intend to oppress or in anyway harm them, do not expect a warm welcome for vengeance is a dish served best cold and at the end of a blade.
@Wirr Ling well I don't know if you remember but the Stormcloaks didn't want the help from the empire. I do think that some of the Nords have gotten a little lazy Whiterun looks like shit so I agree with you when it comes to that. There should have been some kind of repair to the city after the battle for Whiterun I mean they have a valid reason to fix that crap and they don't do anything. Seriously I don't think most of the Nords really want the Empire there you know the outlawing of Talos is all you hear about pretty much throughout the whole game. At least the Nords are still Nords the Imperials are mixed race that have descended mostly from Nedic and Nord stock.
Shalidor was not that powerful or influential as a mage, in the lore in clearly states that most of the stories about him was hyperbole and fabrication. Nords are great warriors and shout users, but orcs are stronger as warriors according to the lore.
@Wirr Ling I'll admit that. I don't think when Beth made this they gave the Nords a fare shake. The entire story feels to flimsy. Even in hard mode the game is easy. Back to winter hold. I get that it would be difficult or impossible to replace what fell into the sea but, your right about the little homes left. It wouldn't be hard at all to rebuild those parts. It was more rewarding to play a Nord back in Oblivion.
Valeclaw this is off topic but does the stormcloak and imperials remind anyone else being similar to the American revolution obviously not completely similar but u can tell Bethesda kinda referenced it a bit think abt it the British are imperials and back then Britain was an empire that owned a lot of provinces but started losing them due to revolts and the nords are white men who wanted independence from the empire and they are racist against anyone who’s not a nord just like the colonists being racist but idk I might be over analyzing it 😂
It doesn’t matter how many times i hear the Skyrim soundtrack, it always manages to make me happy and calm. I hope that as I fade away from life “From Past to Present” is the last thing I hear.
I believe the vast majority of the tombs are for the Dragon Cult, to keep them from wandering the world. After all, Draugr are actually living souls bonded to their own corpses. "Had we discovered them after they were interred, we might not even know they were dead."
"We are but MAGGOTS, *WRITHING* in the filth of our own corruption!!! But aye... *MIGHTY TALOS,* HAVE RISEN ABOVE THE DUNG!!" - Talosian Zealot, High Priest Heimskir of Whiterun
They could build massive cities with master skill, but wouldn't hesitate to burn a civilization to the ground. They would stain the snow red with blood, but weep at the crushing of a flower.
It's ironic that the Nords are complaing about not being allowed to worship thier gods. When the Nords themselves stops the Forsworn of the Reach from worshiping the old gods. At least that is what Madanach "The king in Rags" says when you meet him in Cidhna Mine during the quest "No One Escapes Cidhna Mine".
Sort of. Daedra worship is technically not illegal in and of itself (the Dunmer were allowed to build their statue to Azura, for example), but you can talk to the horsemaster at Markarth and he'll tell you the old ways include blood sacrifices. I live in a country with religious freedom and blood sacrifices would still be illegal here, for good reason.
Forsworn deserved it, those fuckers worship hagravens and Daedra. They also apparently do blood sacrifices. Damn midget Bretons’ homeland isn’t the Reach, it’s chained up in Cidhna Mine, mining silver, and they should know their place.
The daedra they did choose to worship are mostly evil and seek the fall of mortal races. They control the forsworn by appearing as benevolent and nurturing. They are evil and deserve a cold iron blade In the neck.
I just made a new nordic mage build using some mods, he's a nordic history enthusiast and is as true a nord as any. However, he follows the old ways and is a mage and seeks to become greater than any of the dragon priests of old, even taking on his own dragon name. This video just inspired me even more to play on him and keep him as nordic as possible. He has no mercy for elves, reveres the dragon but devours their souls. Worships the old gods, but reveres "newer" gods of nordic origin such as Talos as a mighty hero. It's fun overall.
Can you please do a video series about the race relations amongst the races of Tameriel? Who considers who allies, enemies or just simply indifferent? Thank you!
sound is like waves of particles carrying energy or some shit so in a way both are energy blasts from the mouth monkey saiyans shoot lasers from mouth xd
Ya, I know. You made this comment months ago. In my game, all my characters know each other. 2 Of my characters are from an alternate faction in high elf society. They are the Family Le'Fey. Both work against the Dominion. Makes for some interesting game play when you pit yourself on the other side of the battle.
I know there are some texts in elder scrolls that say they look like men but act as vampiric snakes but I feel like I’ve also seen texts where they are actual snake people as well they also ate all the men of akavir so idk man I’m lost
My first play through has always been a Nord. When they announced TES:V, I was beyond hype to explore Skyrim. I’m glad more people have warmed up to the race because of how popular V was. My second play through is typically an Orc, so hopefully one day we’ll get a game that shows them a little more love.
20 renown heros and an incarnation of the God Talos storm crown (called Hjal), pelinal, miscellaneous demigods, the undead army of shor, and like 60 dragons. That fraction of the 500 could easily enough wage war on a race.
I like how Vivec found "Only frozen bearded kings" dude lives in hell on earth lol Lava, ash and heat everywhere with only fungi growing and everyone looks like a demon. Sounds pretty cool tho :v
You have strange taste. I found it a rather uncultured and barbaric video... unlike his more informative videos based on actual historical elven lore...
Theory time: Giants are shown to have pointy/elven like ears, yet are supposedly also descendants from the Atmoran (proto) Nords, just like current day Nords. All Nords and other human races supposedly lost their long life spans that were like that of Mer when Alduin/Orky (don't remember who did it) turned them all into children. Could it be that this is a metaphorical way of saying they lost their long life spans, and thus became "ignorant like Mer children" due to their short lives? Let alone that all races of Man originally also had, not only long lifespans, but also pointy ears? I do believe it might not be possible as I think I recall a story about Ysgramor who was hunting that might contradict that, but I'm not sure when Alduin/Orky stole all races of Men their lifespans. (before or after the Atmoran Nords came to present day Skyrim)
Atmora is closer to Greenland, Antarctica or the far north of Canada. Atmora is less hospitable than Skyrim and more or less permanently icy. Alaska and the real world Nordics are more like Skyrim than Atmora.
I like to think that Atmora was one of three things. Either it was an old elven site where the summer-magic slowly faded, or a volcanic area which changed over time, or else it was just a fable - a warped spoken history, the old speaking well of their old homes. I tend to think the first one is fairly likely, as the Nords seem quite intrigued by patterns and motifs as well, which could be inspired by the elven ruins. You could see their rune-work motifs as crude copies of the flowing Ayleid or Altmeri lines. I also think that the fact they share a reverence for winged things and things of the air, to be a curious coincidence, not just in the divine analogies.
The amount of work and research that must go into these videos is incredible, and the final product is amazing. I love how much you get into character, it really adds so much and brings the stories to life for me.
Finally found a replacement for Shobbycast Elder scrolls lore and that my friend, is not something I think I would EVER say, shobby cast is the Bethesda Lore GOAT video maker but stopped making stuff on elder scrolls many years ago:(( But man I'm so stoked, just as I'm getting back into playing Elder Scrolls Online as well, what a gift. Let's goooo!!!! Have you considered doing any lore videos on classes in eso? If there even is any beyond the little bit in character creation.
So what y’all are saying is that the nords came from a land of the ice and snow, from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow? And the hammer of their gods drove their ships to new lands to fight the mer, and sing and cry “ sovengarde we are coming”? Sounds familiar..
1) Snow Elves presumably like cold weather 2) Magnus was the architect of Mundus, so presumably the Eye of Magnus could assist the user in re-architecting the world 3) Ysgrammor was so angry/concerned about what the Snow Elves were going to do (or had already done) that he felt the need to eliminate them entirely 4) Atmora froze over the following centuries, forcing its abandonment My theory is that the Snow Elves were trying to use the Eye to remake the world to have a climate suitable for them. Ysgrammor saw this as genocide and worldwide destruction. He was able to stop them from completely remaking the world, but they changed enough that Atmora would be doomed to freeze.
I would guess it was more reactionary. The Snow Elves wanted to keep the Eye of Magnus from the Nords because they were not nearly as advanced or intelligent. The nords fought back and lost. Then came back and started wiping out the Falmer, then the Falmer used the eye to try and freeze Atmora, but lost anyway.
I remember this guy (he was a really cool fellow, we had a fun debate going about Ysgramor and the Snow Elves) who said that from the Falmers' perspective, a bunch of immigrants just showed up to your country and started claiming it as their own when you and your forefathers had been living there for time immemorial. I kinda think that from the Atmorans' perspective, it was like coming back to your ancient ancestors' estate and finding out that a bunch of squatters have been living there for centuries. Worse still, it's your ancient enemies.
The War of the Bend'r-mahk. It's mentioned in the Pocket Guide to the Empire, 3rd Edition. Also referenced in the Knights of the Nine Divines DLC for Oblivion. And explored in the spin-off game "Shadowkey" for old mobiles. Funny observation; the Reach as described in the Pocket Guide, 1st Edition is nothing like we see it in Skyrim. However, the *Western Reach* as decribed under the High Rock section is very much fitting with the Forsworn. So it looks like the Nords held onto land from High Rock, at the very least.
I don't know why, but Bethesda lost a lot of their creativity after Morrowind. Vvardenfell has such a deep, rich and alien culture. It felt like a legitimate alternate reality. And all regions have amazing lore, but the last few games have watered down their unique qualities.
@@LogicAndCompassion Michael Kirkbride and all those creatives who made the Elder Scrolls lore great have either retired or are making their own game and lore. Like Julian Lafey ( Julianos ) making Wayward Realms
@@LandStrider23 Yeah. They were like a dream team of creators. It's just sad, because I've seen very few games that can deliver a true fantasy these days. We are lacking in truly unique worlds. Everything is a stale copy of another fantasy giant's work. Some water down Tolkien, others ripoff Star Wars and Star Trek. The vast majority are just a vanilla medieval setting. Only a few have come close to that alien, otherworldly feeling that Morrowind does so well. Elden ring is the closest, but lacks a living breathing fantastical culture. The Witcher 3 did great with its creature design. Cyberpunk nailed it, in the alternative culture department. But nothing has hit all the same notes at once. I just want to meet a genuinely unique culture and world again.
@@LandStrider23 Might sounds funny, but Hellblade: Senua's sacrifice was the closest thing I've gotten, to a game that completely transports me to an alien, unreliable world.
Just here to save your time, nords are just almost hairless imgas and that shouting is just their bad breath, I hope this helped and remember to inform your local Thalmor justiciars of any suspecting behaviour
@@ciaranmck4469 Bad Boy Leroy Brown? Never head the term 'Baddest man on the planet'? Question is, at what point does a word become so commonly used that it is no longer slang but an accepted as a proper word?
We are currently in the Skyrim Dark Ages. The Nords have been servants of the Empire for centuries, and have slowly decayed because of infectious Cosmoploitainism. The same thing happened to the Imperials themselves; the old ways were more advanced, more powerful, more worthwhile, but the Empire has grown fat, lazy, and is now rotten to its core.
In short? Because Tamriel is regressing, not advancing, technologically and magically. While a fictionalized version of history, the in-game book series "Last Year of the First Era" makes a point of the coming of the 2nd Era changing everything, which lines up pretty well with the current state of things. Another possibility is that things only seems more badass and advanced in the past because we're looking back with incomplete information.
@@TheTdroid honestly id argue that its less to do with regression and more with the lack of a central power thats invested in skyrim. the high kings under the empire seem to have less power over the other holds than they did when independently ruling, so great feats of architecture and such just aren't as possible. take ancient Egypt for example. the pharaohs ruled with an incredibly tight grip due to their control of the nile, and hence their word was absolute and unquestionable in most cases. thats really what made the pyramids possible. compare them with, for example, the later Muslim caliphs and sultans who would rule Egypt. they either didn't have the same power, wealth, and influence as the pharaohs of old did, or like the ottoman sultans were more interested in bettering their capital and the real core of their empire, and so even tho they were all more technologically advanced than the ancient Egyptians, none left such longlasting monoliths.
@@iwonakaplon3399 Prior to ESO, I would've been on board with an interpretation of Elder Scrolls lore that says that it isn't less advanced, but that the older eras have fallen so far into legend that it was overstated. But with ESO, we can see that everywhere we visit and can compare, it seems less primitive in the 2nd Era.
Hey thanks for great vids im just now in 2022 getting deep into the skyrim and its lore and find it insightful and entertaining think you have done great job of it.
Ya, me too. I'm sure you know that Microsoft bought Bethesda. My Son believes that Microsoft will only release TES VI on Xbox. I don't believe this. It's not in their best interest. They would effectively alienate half of the gaming community. That is not a wise business decision.
Slay an elf. You better watch your back for a lifetime.
Slay a nord. Your whole race gets erase.
Slay an orc. wake from your dream when you remember that no one bests an orc.
Windhelm is for the nords
@@windhelmguard5295 that is shit
And any Nords who disagree with the others. Saarthal was an inside job!
Slay a bosmer...
HAIL MEHRUNES DAGONNN
Imperials: We use siege weapons to conquer cities
Altmer: We prefer to use magic to win wars
Nords: *LOUD NOISES*
Scrm that door down.
I'm guessing you never read battle of sancre tor
Perfect comment
Nords: Rip and shout, until it is done.
That Lemon Guy doom guy is a nord confirmed.
You hear about those nords from skyrim? They have straight swords. STRAIGHT SWORDS.
You hear about those khajiit from Elsweyr. They got hairy penises... HAIRY... PENISES
Barbed*
Big long straight swords.
Those nords from skyrim got paddle swords.
You hear about the nords from skyrim?
They have small swords.
Small swords!
Rikke: "Skyrim doesn't belong to you Ulfric!"
Ulfric: "No...but I belong to her."
All hail to ulfric.
@Wirr Ling death brings a clarity that mortals are never privy to. Your wrongs are brought down upon your psyche, and your rights seem small in comparison. Death is the greatest equalizer of all, for it is the one thing we all have in our future.
@@carna-9501 You poetic fuck, that was deep.
@Wirr Ling becoming the god of worms and a literal planetoid that blocks Arkay's own planetoid at certain points in the calendar does kinda take away from the whole being dead thing
@@LokiSeidrGod I used to be a mortician, it's what I would tell everyone who was afraid they were about to die, or those who thought they were too rich to be buried in a cemetery or mausoleum
Imagine being the first to witness a bunch of Nords bringing down fortress walls by just yelling at it😕
Would probably scream just to see if I can do it to
First they laugh than they scream in terror
Ya, right. I thought I had a bad temper. LOLOL!!
If they could do that today NYC would have dominated the world
Funky Cold Medina 🔜
The reason Tamriel remembers Ysgramor's migration rather than the Nedic ones is because Ysgramor's Atmorans didn't end up getting put underfoot and enslaved by Mer.
Imagine if Orcs and Nords could interbreed? No one bests a Norc!
@@markogdon5746 a Norsimer
@@davidking6242 Perfect!
Well it is possible and that would be scary to fight
@@thewolfpaladin1858 Berserker rage and Battle Cry that is a tough act to follow
40 years from now:
FudgeMuppet's latest video:
"The complete guide to the ants on the stump in Riverwood."
You joke, but If Drew's narrating, I'd listen to it.
56 minutes
Part 1
@@bokrugthewaterserpent3012 nahh.... there are still hundreds and hundreds of hours of content in them, not to mention fallout
Brendton R plus when Elder Scrolls 6 comes
Nord's are strong and tough as the land they live in. They have hearts of Steel and an Iron Will. If you intend to oppress or in anyway harm them, do not expect a warm welcome for vengeance is a dish served best cold and at the end of a blade.
@Wirr Ling bullshit
@Wirr Ling well I don't know if you remember but the Stormcloaks didn't want the help from the empire. I do think that some of the Nords have gotten a little lazy Whiterun looks like shit so I agree with you when it comes to that. There should have been some kind of repair to the city after the battle for Whiterun I mean they have a valid reason to fix that crap and they don't do anything. Seriously I don't think most of the Nords really want the Empire there you know the outlawing of Talos is all you hear about pretty much throughout the whole game. At least the Nords are still Nords the Imperials are mixed race that have descended mostly from Nedic and Nord stock.
Shalidor was not that powerful or influential as a mage, in the lore in clearly states that most of the stories about him was hyperbole and fabrication. Nords are great warriors and shout users, but orcs are stronger as warriors according to the lore.
@Wirr Ling I'll admit that. I don't think when Beth made this they gave the Nords a fare shake. The entire story feels to flimsy. Even in hard mode the game is easy. Back to winter hold. I get that it would be difficult or impossible to replace what fell into the sea but, your right about the little homes left. It wouldn't be hard at all to rebuild those parts. It was more rewarding to play a Nord back in Oblivion.
@Wirr Ling Why rebuild a dead city, nobody wants to live there so it remains a ruin.
I love the serious talk about Atmorra, and then there is just a horker dancing, while he is talking. 7:11
Wow there is.
He is vibin' to the Age of Horkression
"you don't understand housecarl, you ain't a true nord."
No, you are a Dunmer/Chimer. And are proficient with the arcane arts, unlike that simple nord lol.
@Wirr Ling "There weren't any dragons back then." Nahfahlaar turning in his grave
@@thomasrosendahl2783 ever heard of the clevermen
@Wirr Ling that moment you realize the Skal are in fact the last true Nords in all of Tamriel
Anancy-9 I’m cool with that. They have a really unique monotheistic belief as opposed to literally every other race on Tamriel.
It's kinda funny, the ancient nords and pre-Skyrim Nords sound so much more interesting than the modern Nords.
Valeclaw this is off topic but does the stormcloak and imperials remind anyone else being similar to the American revolution obviously not completely similar but u can tell Bethesda kinda referenced it a bit think abt it the British are imperials and back then Britain was an empire that owned a lot of provinces but started losing them due to revolts and the nords are white men who wanted independence from the empire and they are racist against anyone who’s not a nord just like the colonists being racist but idk I might be over analyzing it 😂
A nord that kills other nords
You can say that about every race in tamriel today
Im Better shut up bitch
Jack Johnson another parallel is that america was founded on the principal of religious freedom, which the stormcloaks are fighting for.
It doesn’t matter how many times i hear the Skyrim soundtrack, it always manages to make me happy and calm. I hope that as I fade away from life “From Past to Present” is the last thing I hear.
Never thought an Eldritch god would expect to pass away.
"The Dragonborn is the archetype on how the Nords should be."
Me: **plays Skyrim as a Dunmer necromancer.**
Yeah, pretty much. 😥
@History review White patriarchal standards 💅
@@AlecEburhard Play as a traditional Imperial Knight, a Dunmer spellsword, a Nord Warrior etc.
Nords: "We'll become fertilizer when we die, hopefully sprouting new life
Also Nords: *Has halls of the dead*
I believe the vast majority of the tombs are for the Dragon Cult, to keep them from wandering the world. After all, Draugr are actually living souls bonded to their own corpses. "Had we discovered them after they were interred, we might not even know they were dead."
Last time I was this early empire was still in summerset isles
Last time I was this early Tiber septim was still talos of atmora.
Last time broke my paroleto have agood TombanksIIIto 50stoolsIIIIIIIItoIto
That makes no sense you tool
Daamnn
Snow elves- Skyrim belongs to us. Nords- Hold my Mead
Being of Denmark, Norwegian, and German ancestory I've always had a deep love for nords.
@Wirr Ling Do you have a problem with being german then?
I'm 0,001% german myself and I love them too.
Jackson B. Valentine I am Dutch so I prefer the Imperials and Argonians. The nords are just too vikingy for me, and I do not like the Frisians
Hail kinsman
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 You shame your ancestors then milk drinker.
"We are but MAGGOTS, *WRITHING* in the filth of our own corruption!!! But aye... *MIGHTY TALOS,* HAVE RISEN ABOVE THE DUNG!!" - Talosian Zealot, High Priest Heimskir of Whiterun
*writhing in the filth of our own corruption
@@adarshkamoda9183 corrected.
I can litteraly hear this as I read it!
They could build massive cities with master skill, but wouldn't hesitate to burn a civilization to the ground. They would stain the snow red with blood, but weep at the crushing of a flower.
It's ironic that the Nords are complaing about not being allowed to worship thier gods. When the Nords themselves stops the Forsworn of the Reach from worshiping the old gods. At least that is what Madanach "The king in Rags" says when you meet him in Cidhna Mine during the quest "No One Escapes Cidhna Mine".
Well the forsworn worship daedra, so is kind of justified.
Sort of. Daedra worship is technically not illegal in and of itself (the Dunmer were allowed to build their statue to Azura, for example), but you can talk to the horsemaster at Markarth and he'll tell you the old ways include blood sacrifices. I live in a country with religious freedom and blood sacrifices would still be illegal here, for good reason.
@@TheTdroid you have a point there.
Forsworn deserved it, those fuckers worship hagravens and Daedra. They also apparently do blood sacrifices. Damn midget Bretons’ homeland isn’t the Reach, it’s chained up in Cidhna Mine, mining silver, and they should know their place.
The daedra they did choose to worship are mostly evil and seek the fall of mortal races. They control the forsworn by appearing as benevolent and nurturing. They are evil and deserve a cold iron blade In the neck.
"Around elves. Watch yourselves..." - Nordic Proverb
That’s pretty anti-semitic
ultimate kek
Around elves, never relax
To the presence of Mer, never return
Kek
I just made a new nordic mage build using some mods, he's a nordic history enthusiast and is as true a nord as any. However, he follows the old ways and is a mage and seeks to become greater than any of the dragon priests of old, even taking on his own dragon name. This video just inspired me even more to play on him and keep him as nordic as possible. He has no mercy for elves, reveres the dragon but devours their souls. Worships the old gods, but reveres "newer" gods of nordic origin such as Talos as a mighty hero. It's fun overall.
My favorite race!
Imagine this in any other context
@@imbetter599 oh god no
I don't know why I like them more than orc's and altmer. guess I'm just a fan of there lore
They have the best heroes.
"Yes"
When I discovered this channel about a year ago I didn’t realize just how lucky I was. Every upload is a treat!
Can you please do a video series about the race relations amongst the races of Tameriel? Who considers who allies, enemies or just simply indifferent? Thank you!
So basically... the Dragonborn is Odysseus: a perfect paragon of their society's ideal person, with hubris as their primary downfall.
So we're just not going to talk about the flying snow whales that used to inhabit Skyrim
excuse me WHAT NOW LMAO
fast food service provided by paarthunax inc, guess it was a victim of its own success
They literally shit cocaine
They’re still around man gotta get that good moon sugar from maiq the liar to see em tho
I always wondered how the dragons and snow elves got along
Dragonball Z: screaming makes you stronger
Skyrim: shout to use words of power.
Nords are Saiyan.
sound is like waves of particles carrying energy or some shit
so in a way both are energy blasts from the mouth
monkey saiyans shoot lasers from mouth xd
Seems like 6 elves hated this video. Figures, damn elves.
Ya, I know. You made this comment months ago. In my game, all my characters know each other. 2 Of my characters are from an alternate faction in high elf society. They are the Family Le'Fey. Both work against the Dominion. Makes for some interesting game play when you pit yourself on the other side of the battle.
@@curtisfranzen986 I love playthroughs like this. It makes everything more interesting
The Tsaeci being mannish is contentious; they may have well been actual snake people.
There were snakish Tsaesci and Mannish Tsaesci that the snakes conquered.
I know there are some texts in elder scrolls that say they look like men but act as vampiric snakes but I feel like I’ve also seen texts where they are actual snake people as well they also ate all the men of akavir so idk man I’m lost
My first play through has always been a Nord. When they announced TES:V, I was beyond hype to explore Skyrim. I’m glad more people have warmed up to the race because of how popular V was.
My second play through is typically an Orc, so hopefully one day we’ll get a game that shows them a little more love.
500 ancient nord warriors vs thousands of snowelfs. They must have been nordic beserker
I mean, what can you do against a man who wields a greataxe with a heavy shield and eats soup with a fork?
@@insaincaldo and eats ramen with a paddle
@@SilverGamingFI Never heard stories about that, but sure.
@Sakkra101 oh yeah
20 renown heros and an incarnation of the God Talos storm crown (called Hjal), pelinal, miscellaneous demigods, the undead army of shor, and like 60 dragons. That fraction of the 500 could easily enough wage war on a race.
Skyrim seriously watered the Nords down.
Tammikasvain That's what happens when all we really know is second-hand or embellished writing, and then we witness the real thing first hand
@@jrayb0240 Doesn't really change the fact that i's boring as shit.
@@jrayb0240 nah it's mostly boring world building tbh.
Skyrim has nothing on what Oblivion did to the Cyrods. At least the Nords got to keep *an* identity. The Cyrods were left with nothing.
@@TheTdroid Yep, getting turned to Peter Jackson versions of LoTR humans was a disgrace.
as a scandinavian i always find myself playing as a nord. but then i took an arrow to the knee
The proud people who live in fantasy Minnesota/Wisconsin, I’ll need to watch this all the way through.
Lol! those folks are likely more akin to Bretons
Stormcloaks: fantasy Boogaloo
Imperials: Gay
@@paytonthornberry1382 Thalwhores: dead
Hotel: ...
...
Bannered Mare.
See, I pulled a sneaky on ya.
I love the nordic lore. Great vid Drew, and of course, all of fudgemuppet.
Seems like yesterdey when I was playing Skyrim... it was actually 2 hours ago
Going to play after I smoke a blunt and watch this video
This video has just made my time in Qurantine much better.
skyrim and berkserk are some outright masterpieces.
oh my god dude I thought this video’s thumbnail was a Nord on a stripper pole for weeks before I registered that it was in fact a weapon
Oh
Oh no
Took me till now to realize that the only true way to play SKYRIM as intended is as a NORD.
Praise talos the veil has been lifted from thy eyes
Great video Drew! Had to watch this one twice! Adventure on my friend!
Nords are GOATed man. Love them.
I like how Vivec found "Only frozen bearded kings" dude lives in hell on earth lol Lava, ash and heat everywhere with only fungi growing and everyone looks like a demon. Sounds pretty cool tho :v
now this... THIS is a good video. much better than your ELF videos.
You have strange taste. I found it a rather uncultured and barbaric video... unlike his more informative videos based on actual historical elven lore...
Theory time:
Giants are shown to have pointy/elven like ears, yet are supposedly also descendants from the Atmoran (proto) Nords, just like current day Nords.
All Nords and other human races supposedly lost their long life spans that were like that of Mer when Alduin/Orky (don't remember who did it) turned them all into children.
Could it be that this is a metaphorical way of saying they lost their long life spans, and thus became "ignorant like Mer children" due to their short lives?
Let alone that all races of Man originally also had, not only long lifespans, but also pointy ears?
I do believe it might not be possible as I think I recall a story about Ysgramor who was hunting that might contradict that, but I'm not sure when Alduin/Orky stole all races of Men their lifespans. (before or after the Atmoran Nords came to present day Skyrim)
Feels like this one has been done before.
Literally every other race: *uses conventional warfare*
Nords: Just do what I do when I have problems.. **S C R E A M**
Watched this before starting to play your stormcloak mage build, I have 4K hours on the game, but I’ve never been so excited to play a nord lol
snowelfs: skyrims for the snowelfs
nords: wanna bet
Ysgrammor : B E T
Falmer: Hsssss
Need the sauce of your profile pic
@@fumarc4501 Ulfringar: hiss all you want but soon you wont be
They annihilated the snow elves what dickheads
FudgeMuppet's extensive knowledge of Elder Scrolls lore is akin to breathing. Unmatched by any other Elder Scrolls lore channel, certainly.
Well, Lady of Scrolls might want a word with you, but otherwise I can only second that.
If you look at photos of Alaska, that's what I imagine Atmora to be.
Atmora is closer to Greenland, Antarctica or the far north of Canada. Atmora is less hospitable than Skyrim and more or less permanently icy. Alaska and the real world Nordics are more like Skyrim than Atmora.
@NATIK001 well, there were at least enough trees to build ships and homes and such. Fire. So it wasn't just icy tundra.
Kinda cool. In finnish mythology mighty men and women used word or poems to battle eachother. Not necessarily shouting, but still.
I like to think that Atmora was one of three things. Either it was an old elven site where the summer-magic slowly faded, or a volcanic area which changed over time, or else it was just a fable - a warped spoken history, the old speaking well of their old homes. I tend to think the first one is fairly likely, as the Nords seem quite intrigued by patterns and motifs as well, which could be inspired by the elven ruins. You could see their rune-work motifs as crude copies of the flowing Ayleid or Altmeri lines. I also think that the fact they share a reverence for winged things and things of the air, to be a curious coincidence, not just in the divine analogies.
It was all of the above.
Oh fuck yeah!!! I've been waiting for this, thank you FudgeMuppet my favorite lore channel.
If the Dragonborn had COVID-19, every time he sneezed “Fus Ro Da” villages would get infected with the virus.
Not funny
@@dadshirt6681 toxic
have him do that in the summerset isles and you've got fantasy biological warfare
Make Peryite proud my dudes.
That would be a funny mod :)
Thanks, Drew. I appreciate all the work you put into all of these videos. Stay safe. Take care of you. ☘
He was talking about the reach, but the video was showing Falkreath Hold
The amount of work and research that must go into these videos is incredible, and the final product is amazing. I love how much you get into character, it really adds so much and brings the stories to life for me.
Finally, a 39-minute-long vid. I need more of this.
Thanks Drew, I'm in tears! Glorious video!!! Gods watch over your battles guys!
I wonder how many of ysgramor's men started practicing throwing their swords after the death of the snow prince
Its my birthday today and fudgemuppet drops a vid on my favorite race wow great bday present 😁
When i was this early skyrim was new
So, 11th of November 2011?
11/11/11
I wonder what the Nords did when Tongues got sick from a cold with a bad cough?
Finally found a replacement for Shobbycast Elder scrolls lore and that my friend, is not something I think I would EVER say, shobby cast is the Bethesda Lore GOAT video maker but stopped making stuff on elder scrolls many years ago:((
But man I'm so stoked, just as I'm getting back into playing Elder Scrolls Online as well, what a gift. Let's goooo!!!! Have you considered doing any lore videos on classes in eso? If there even is any beyond the little bit in character creation.
Its weird how Nords and Orcs are quite similar
Nords are America orcs are Mongolians
@@Jester4460lol what?
@Jester4460 Nah nords are more Norwegian than American
'ate Imperials
'ate Thalmor
'ate dark elves
luv ulfric
luv me mead
luv skyrim
simple as
Ok.
I have now made Imperial stew, Thalmor roast and dunmer pie
Nord = Fuck death, fuck magic, fuck cold, forever warrior.
I have been waiting for you to upload something during this boring quarantine.
So what y’all are saying is that the nords came from a land of the ice and snow, from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow? And the hammer of their gods drove their ships to new lands to fight the mer, and sing and cry “ sovengarde we are coming”? Sounds familiar..
I never realised how much the Nords look like Triple H
For glory! For Sovngarde!!!!!
That midnight bowl of cereal was nicely times it seems
I'm so bored or skyrim but I still like watching these videos.
Skyrim the best
1) Snow Elves presumably like cold weather
2) Magnus was the architect of Mundus, so presumably the Eye of Magnus could assist the user in re-architecting the world
3) Ysgrammor was so angry/concerned about what the Snow Elves were going to do (or had already done) that he felt the need to eliminate them entirely
4) Atmora froze over the following centuries, forcing its abandonment
My theory is that the Snow Elves were trying to use the Eye to remake the world to have a climate suitable for them. Ysgrammor saw this as genocide and worldwide destruction. He was able to stop them from completely remaking the world, but they changed enough that Atmora would be doomed to freeze.
I would guess it was more reactionary.
The Snow Elves wanted to keep the Eye of Magnus from the Nords because they were not nearly as advanced or intelligent. The nords fought back and lost. Then came back and started wiping out the Falmer, then the Falmer used the eye to try and freeze Atmora, but lost anyway.
No dude the Snow Elves attacked the Nords cause they feared the Eye of Magnus and didn't want the Nords to discover it
Nords: *shouting down walls*
Altmer: Ah shit I'm outta here. WULD... *zoom* NAH KEST!
6 days for a video about nords? The disrespect. Kidding, thanks for the vid mate.
*Knows almost everything about the topic*
“Oh shit fudgemuppet uploaded, let me watch this all the way through and then three more times this week”
We used to be adventurers like you then we got quarantined
I remember this guy (he was a really cool fellow, we had a fun debate going about Ysgramor and the Snow Elves) who said that from the Falmers' perspective, a bunch of immigrants just showed up to your country and started claiming it as their own when you and your forefathers had been living there for time immemorial.
I kinda think that from the Atmorans' perspective, it was like coming back to your ancient ancestors' estate and finding out that a bunch of squatters have been living there for centuries. Worse still, it's your ancient enemies.
Reference to the war in which Nords claimed "huge swathes of High Rock and Hammerfell" please.
The War of the Bend'r-mahk. It's mentioned in the Pocket Guide to the Empire, 3rd Edition. Also referenced in the Knights of the Nine Divines DLC for Oblivion. And explored in the spin-off game "Shadowkey" for old mobiles.
Funny observation; the Reach as described in the Pocket Guide, 1st Edition is nothing like we see it in Skyrim. However, the *Western Reach* as decribed under the High Rock section is very much fitting with the Forsworn. So it looks like the Nords held onto land from High Rock, at the very least.
@@TheTdroid cool, thx
Nords also are really good blacksmiths.
Not as good as Orcs or Dwemer.
@@VanityOfEliCLeestalhrim, bloodskaal blade, dragon priest gear, etc
@@VanityOfEliCLeedwemer are good scientist tho
As stubborn as they are, I am really surprised why nords didn t try to get independent until now.
Remember how nords used to be like celts? What happened to that?
I don't know why, but Bethesda lost a lot of their creativity after Morrowind.
Vvardenfell has such a deep, rich and alien culture. It felt like a legitimate alternate reality.
And all regions have amazing lore, but the last few games have watered down their unique qualities.
@@LogicAndCompassion Michael Kirkbride and all those creatives who made the Elder Scrolls lore great have either retired or are making their own game and lore. Like Julian Lafey ( Julianos ) making Wayward Realms
@@LandStrider23 Yeah. They were like a dream team of creators.
It's just sad, because I've seen very few games that can deliver a true fantasy these days. We are lacking in truly unique worlds.
Everything is a stale copy of another fantasy giant's work. Some water down Tolkien, others ripoff Star Wars and Star Trek. The vast majority are just a vanilla medieval setting.
Only a few have come close to that alien, otherworldly feeling that Morrowind does so well.
Elden ring is the closest, but lacks a living breathing fantastical culture. The Witcher 3 did great with its creature design. Cyberpunk nailed it, in the alternative culture department.
But nothing has hit all the same notes at once.
I just want to meet a genuinely unique culture and world again.
@@LandStrider23 Might sounds funny, but Hellblade: Senua's sacrifice was the closest thing I've gotten, to a game that completely transports me to an alien, unreliable world.
It's kind of cool that Nords can use tonal magic though. Tonal magic is probably one of my favorite lore concepts
Just here to save your time, nords are just almost hairless imgas and that shouting is just their bad breath, I hope this helped and remember to inform your local Thalmor justiciars of any suspecting behaviour
@fudgemuppet - was Solstheim an island at the time of Ysgramor or did it become an island during the Dragon War when Miraak battled Vahlok?
Nords: Baddest race in all of Nirn
didnt know baddest was a word mate
@@ciaranmck4469
Bad Boy Leroy Brown?
Never head the term 'Baddest man on the planet'?
Question is, at what point does a word become so commonly used that it is no longer slang but an accepted as a proper word?
Tamriel for the Khajiit!
Because this one’s kind are natives.
How is it, that the current nords seem to be less technologically advanced than the atmorans?
We are currently in the Skyrim Dark Ages.
The Nords have been servants of the Empire for centuries, and have slowly decayed because of infectious Cosmoploitainism.
The same thing happened to the Imperials themselves; the old ways were more advanced, more powerful, more worthwhile, but the Empire has grown fat, lazy, and is now rotten to its core.
In short? Because Tamriel is regressing, not advancing, technologically and magically. While a fictionalized version of history, the in-game book series "Last Year of the First Era" makes a point of the coming of the 2nd Era changing everything, which lines up pretty well with the current state of things.
Another possibility is that things only seems more badass and advanced in the past because we're looking back with incomplete information.
@@TheTdroid honestly id argue that its less to do with regression and more with the lack of a central power thats invested in skyrim. the high kings under the empire seem to have less power over the other holds than they did when independently ruling, so great feats of architecture and such just aren't as possible. take ancient Egypt for example. the pharaohs ruled with an incredibly tight grip due to their control of the nile, and hence their word was absolute and unquestionable in most cases. thats really what made the pyramids possible. compare them with, for example, the later Muslim caliphs and sultans who would rule Egypt. they either didn't have the same power, wealth, and influence as the pharaohs of old did, or like the ottoman sultans were more interested in bettering their capital and the real core of their empire, and so even tho they were all more technologically advanced than the ancient Egyptians, none left such longlasting monoliths.
@@iwonakaplon3399 Prior to ESO, I would've been on board with an interpretation of Elder Scrolls lore that says that it isn't less advanced, but that the older eras have fallen so far into legend that it was overstated. But with ESO, we can see that everywhere we visit and can compare, it seems less primitive in the 2nd Era.
Hey thanks for great vids im just now in 2022 getting deep into the skyrim and its lore and find it insightful and entertaining think you have done great job of it.
My favorite race ! Love the nords ! I also like the cold
I've always wondered why the Dragonborns were not a revered religiously in Cyrodiil, despite most Dragonborn being Imperials.
Because they're not as special as the Nords think they are.
This videos are holding me over until we get more info on TES VI
Ya, me too. I'm sure you know that Microsoft bought Bethesda. My Son believes that Microsoft will only release TES VI on Xbox. I don't believe this. It's not in their best interest. They would effectively alienate half of the gaming community. That is not a wise business decision.
This is how I am spending my new year's eve
Your vids are always great!
17:37 arya?? lol no but seriously i guess that’s where the inspiration for the end of the night king came from
20:55 You mean the Thalmor and their Stormcloak puppets, right?