Could The Stardust Crusaders beat the Sasuke Retrieval Arc?
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The Crusaders tried taking a plane to Egypt and it crashed near Konoha
And it just so happened to kill shikimarus group who were to dumb to realize that metal flying object falling from the sky will kill.
God damn you, grandpa, you're such a nuisance! Will you ever learn to fly these things?! And who's that green haired guy with three swords who gave you directions?!
Was zoro the pilot
@@Redwolf476-5 no it was Joseph.
Zoro was the navigator
The reason Avdol got shot in the head was because he was being stabbed in the back by Hanged Man. He fully intended to MELT The Emperor's bullet in mid-air, and he probably could've done it too considering The Emperor is no different from any Gun aside from it's ability to control the direction of the Stand Bullets.
I mean, it’s more than a regular gun
I could argue that it’s FASTER than SilverChariot as SilverChariot is quiet literally unable to cut/stop any of its bullets
Its more powerful, but its been shown that the bullets have the same properties as other bullets, like melting point.
@@gabrielsalahi3656yeah but chariot had his armor on, right?
@@funnybones98 True, but being faster than Armored Chariot is still amazing considering Armored Chariot did slice a beam of light
@@gabrielsalahi3656 yeah, although that is an iffy feat. like he can slash fast enough but not with lightspeed precision
The Sharingan doesn’t see invisible people. It also doesn’t allow the user to see the chakra network, it can only perceive chakra and it’s flow. So when Obito is able to react to and stab that invisible Stone Village ninja, it’s because he can see him as a mass of chakra.
Would Sasuke's Rinnegan be able to see stands? He could at least see Madara's Limbo clones who've been stated to exist in a different dimension, so would he be able to see stands? Same kind of argument for Naruto. Even though he wouldn't be able to see stands, he could sense them like he did with Madara's Limbo clones while in 6PSM.
@@Space_Gojira that’s an interesting theory. Idk honestly. Probably not since the Limbo clones are technically still clones, so they should still be formed from chakra
@@chrisvthe122 It should it could the limbo clones which are in another dimension and was able to notice when momo was stopping time.
@@Jsipki265 Momoshiki? What do you mean? he can’t stop time. Also stands aren’t in another dimension they exist in the same dimension as everyone else, so the point of them being in another dimension doesn’t really matter. Non stand users cannot see stands
@@chrisvthe122 He literally does when boruto kills him and another instance with the karma I think around the jigen arc.
I feel like a lot of people forget that there used to be people without chakra in Naruto. So while certain things like Itachi's genjutsu could work because it injects chakra into them, anything that relies on disrupting someone elses chakra wouldn't. Its not like no one existed before Kaguya so the crusaders absolutely could avoid abilities that specifically target peoples chakra, even if stands are technically a type of life energy
That isn’t how the MS works, that “injects chakra” statement means that you don’t have to look into itachis eyes for the genjutsu to work he just needs to look into yours, like your gazes don’t have to meet with the MS but with base sharingan the do
@@cethsui
Rewatch/Reread the fight with Kakashi, Asuma, Kurenai, and Guy vs Itachi and Kisame
When guy enters the battlefield he’s able to keep his eyes open but isn’t caught into Tsukuyomi because he wasn’t looking at Itachi in the eyes.
Tsukuyomi can only work if you make eye contact with the target. If all Itachi needed to do was just stare at the eyes of someone to trap them in the genjutsu then Guy, Kurenai, and Asuma would have been hospitalized with Kakashi the moment they opened their eyes.
@DaHomieRiz dont forget that itachi is able to just point and cast genjutsu
@@cethsui I didn't say that's how all MS abilities work, just that specifically with Tsukiyomi it's different. That's part of what makes it so dangerous is that it transports the victim into a sort of mental pocket dimension that Itachi controls, in his light novels it states he has utter and complete control through the genjutsu and that it's so powerful the brain will essentially manifest what happens to you in it. That's how he killed his girlfriend back in the Uchiha massacre, I don't believe it mentions needing to disrupt someone else's chakra network to work unlike say kotoamatsukami or ephemeral
@@user-ch2tr9fj3l lmfao you can’t put anyone without chakra under genjutsu doesn’t matter if it’s Tsukuyomi or MS the enemy needs chakra for it to work
Zabuza and Old Joseph shared the same Japanese voice actor. The late Unsho Ishizuka. Now imagine Zabuza screaming "OH MY GOD" as he gets washed away by Kakashi's water Dragon. That is now an image in all y'all heads.
How could you do this to me lol.
Jotaro's English actor also played trafalgar law and levi
Joseph would definitely be able to defeat Jirobo but it would definitely be a battle of strength vs. experience Joseph would end it by possibly frying his brain by letting Jirobo get close to him on purpose with Joseph taking a serious amount of damage. But, he would be able to live through it.
I mean it's a Jojo character, all they need is half a lung and their brain stem to survive
@@h4zrd-rs252lmao
I like the idea of Joseph being the one to fight Sakon and Ukon. He'd be like "not another parasite in my body!" but it's extremely unfair as with hamon he could potentially expell them from his body, etc. via the body modification and so on
and its possible he could hurt them as much as they hurt his, as Hamon is as harmful to them as the curse chackra is tho him
The story could be that a secret stand user Dio hired has a stand that is basically a reverse Bohemian Rhapsody, and he teleports the SC group into Naruto in the start of that arc.
I think you seriously downplayed the crippling weakness that is the Naruto-Verse not being able to see Stands. That is basically an insta-lose for all of them.
-Avdol can melt steel out of the air, he can disintegrate Sakon and Ukkon literally before they know what hit them. They don't get to summon their barrier because they don't see Magician's Red.
-Once Polnareff realizes Tayuya can't see his stand, he shoots his Saber's blade at her head and wins. No contest.
-If Kakyoin doesn't play around and wants to make his fight quick, he 20 meter radius ES's immediately and wins. How can Kidomaro fight back against something hitting him from every angle and that he can't even see?
-Joseph is both too fast and too smart to lose to Jirobo. He can't one shot, but he doesn't draw in a million years. What intelligence feats does Jirobo even have?
-Kimimaro vs Jotaro is actually pretty interesting, since unless Jotaro goes for a one-shot (which I'd argue he could do against him) Kimimaro could erect a spiky layer of bones around his body to stop Star Plat from attacking him (Jotaro admits to struggling with swords against Anubis Polnareff). It's one of the only interesting fights assuming no Rage Boosted Jotaro.
-Assuming Iggy's Sand is visible, Iggy vs Kimimaro would likely come down to Iggy realizing Kimimaro is going to die soon and just playing keep away until he does. Iggy can fly, but Kimimaro can shoot bone projectiles at him, but Iggy can hide in the forest and just camp him out that way using cover.
-"Sasuke has range." *laughs in Star Finger ambush and Time Stop + ORA ORA follow up*
Honestly I think Jotaro struggling with swords was specific against Anubis Polnareff since well.. He didn't want to hurt Polnareff, just the sword.
@@theshattered5936 Oh yeah that’s a good point. In that case Jotaro just smashes Kimimaro’s bones and overpowers him. Kimimaro loses either the moment he stops Larch Dancing or if he gets blitzed.
Well. Star Platinum was already shown bending steel bars in prison, so I don't think Kimimaro's bones, which are stated to be as strong as steel, will do anything. Star Platinum's precision would allow him to shatter any bone sword
@@javiervejar8889 Ah, that’s right. So that means none of the fights here are even remotely close… Bruh.
@@javiervejar8889 dude it he shattered teeth that were a durable as diamond
Kakyoin one shots them all. NOBODY CAN DODGE THE EMERALD SPLASH!
I don't think it does enough damage to hurt some of them but idk
@michaelbalog7409 it's a meme reference
KAKYOIN🔛🔝🔥🗣️🔥
*deflect
@@redsfire09 Impossible…
Don’t know if anybody else mentioned this but atleast for itachi specifically he can inject his own chakra through peoples eyes so genjutsu from him would work but your point for taiyuya still stands. Just thought I’d bring that up
Yeah, that makes sense.
The only exception to the rule and yes, I knew this. the later naruto characters are busted
@@METAsMETAs Can you do more of those crossover videos please ?
if not , then , how about a Anubis Polnareff versus all the parts?
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Pretty sure this is all sharingan genjutsu
@@vanished209and maybe sage art frog song as normal people don’t have senjutsu so it would make sense if ma and pa injected their own especially if it was an auditory jutsu working on a corpse puppet
I wonder if any of the Naruto characters would be able to detect things like Emerald Splash? I think high level ninjas could end up dodging traps they don't always see but it also depends on how something like Emerald Splash or Stands at all react to the air around them.
I read that as deflect. And immediately thought of “No one can just deflect the emerald splash.”
i don't think that the emerald splash is seeable, considering nobody mentioned it in the Tower of Gray fight
I think the byakugan (might’ve misspelled that) would also people to sense stands (and the emerald splash) through air movement and the like
An idea I’ve had for this is the Joestar bloodline vs One Piece where each main Joestar replaces one member on the Strawhats like Jonathan replaces Luffy
Joseph replaces Nami
Jotaro replaces Zoro and so on and so forth
And each time a new member joins they get replaced by the next protagonist of each part until Jodio replaces the 9th Strawhat member and stop after that
(Also you can swap different JoJos into different fights like putting Giorno up against Crocodile in Alabastaso Johnathon isn’t just eating sh*t at every turn)
Jonathan definitely beats the shit out of everyone up til eneru. He could still have some problems with crocodile but if he is smart enough he could beat crocodile. Also, zoro was the 2nd straw hat and Nami was the 3rd meaning that josheph would take zoro's place and jotaro would take Nami's place but I gotta admit Joseph replacing Nami and jotaro replacing zoro actually fits.
Honestly really interesting video I haven't watched all of Naruto yet so the breakdown and the explanation were easy to digest. Hope to see some more analysis between the two series.
What if you tried the inverse of this? With the naruto team facing the opponents of the stardust crusaders?
I second this
I feel like they'll almost always get smoked. The enemy stand would be invisible to them and they wouldn't even know what's attacking them. Most stand users attack from a distance or surprise attack their opponents.
yeah, that's too tough. if they could see/harm stands that's a different story, but still
They literally have to fight an invisible sun
yes they can,and it won't even be close
Yea for the crusaders they are gonna get slammed
@@zabuza_supreme8923na crusaders wins
@@overheaven2706yes
@@overheaven2706nah they don't it ain't close sorry dude
@@zabuza_supreme8923 "zabuza" u just salty about thr fact that ur whole verse can't handle an emerald splash
I guess in term of Sharingan 3-tomoe Sasuke can't see Star Platinum, but can predict its movements by tracking micromovements of Jotaro.
No matter how good poker face you have, your stand is still you, and you still do some unconcious moves
This might be late but this is quite interesting take, I wonder if that's possible to track the movement of that person in order to predict an invisible light speed attack cuz the attack should have a wide up
The problem is that Sasuke still wouldn't even know what a Stand is to begin with. He knows he's getting hit by SOMETHING, and maybe he could track Jotaro's eye movements to try and predict where the impact will be aimed, but by the time he figures even that much out, he's probably had all the teeth knocked out of his mouth. Also, time stop.
@@JackgarPrime so, Sasuke may assume that his enemy uses some strange jutsu with invisible punches (fuuton master, maybe?)
Hm... hand-winged Sasuke (when he just awakenes his 3-tomoe sharingan) would lose if he does not use some ninja tricks loke poison smoke bombs or smth like wire-shuriken mumbo-jumbo. In this situation, if he discovers Jotaro's ability to teleport (ahem-ahem, timestop), he would just flee.
Because why not?
I've never even seen a naruto vs jojo crossover in general. Why do we receive all ideas in the shower? Are showers secretly all knowing deities?
Yes
I havent even finished the video, but I just gotta say that I love the part where the Editor comes in and plays devils advocate 😂
There’s also a little known fact about silver chariots rapier, it canonically can piece anything and pierce between atoms. So it basically can cut and pierce anything. Opponents defense doesn’t matter it’s gg
@Yugee iirc that's how it's described when it's first introduced
literally cuts between space to sandwich fire between coins
To be fair to Kakyoin, Hierophant was capable of blocking a full-force punch from The World with its bare arms, even if it made him bleed. He's most certainly not *as* strong as the others, but he's gotta be in the same ballpark, even in terms pf physicality. We unfortunately don't see much in terms of physical feats from Hierophant, but it was willing to go hand-to-hand against High Priestess and its tendrils were fast enough to catch Tower of Gray and rip it to shreds, so it shouldn't be significantly below the rest of the cast. Plus, even if Kinumaru has the AP/durability advantage, Kakyoin has a considerable advantage in hax thanks to puppetry and internal damage, which he'd be quick to use if he realizes physical attacks are useless.
In terms of cross verse battles genjutsu actually works since it affects the 5 senses regardless of whether someone has chakra or not as kaguya was the only one with chakra on earth and yet was still able to cast infinite tsukiyomi so technically Taiyuya's genjutsu would work (I forgot how to spell her name)
5 senses connected by the Chakra network so it can't find its way to the senses no Chakra network to travel through
@@Jc-xs6vu genjutsu is the injection of chakra so yes it would
@@Jc-xs6vu and like I said before the humans on earth didn't have chakra until the sage spread it to them kaguya wanted to take it back so yes genjutsu works on people without chakra
@@hoifzfno they already had chakra, but they didn't know how to mold chakra to create ninjitsu .Everyone has bit of chakra and a chakra network so you wrong .
@@powerscallingfiend they didn't the divine tree sucks natural energy from the planet to make chakra to bloom the fruit
Honestly people like y'all shouldn't do cross verse battles like stands are manifestations of will but their literal spirits if your going to cross verse make it fair or don't do it at all
I find it funny that despite people believing jotaro beats adult naruto and sasuke (for some reason 🤷) this battle is using kids in og naruto 😂
He definitely beast sasuke in my opinion he doesn’t have the regeneration that naruto does and even then jotaro just needs to time stop and crush naruto head star plautnuim is light speed so naruto levels of speed
Jotaro legit solos Naruto verse
Y'all trippin, please read Naruto lol
Facts
@@machina5It's actually debatable . Jotaro does have hacks and feats to beat them . Specially because they have no counter to time stop , they can't see or sense SP , they can't hurt or block also Jotaro have experience fighting faster than light opponents .
Dang didn’t realize this came out 3 min ago lol.
Prediction before watching the video: the crusaders should take this easy. Tbh I’m not even sure how this could be a challenge. Maybe if you included Kimmimaro. But I think every crusader except Joseph solos the Sound 4.
I always wondered if anyone from Naruto could actually see stands. Thinking about it for a while, I’m thinking Neji or literally anybody from the Huga klan might be able to see stands. Think about it. Neji is supposed to be a genius right? In the first few seconds into a fight with a stand user, he’s gonna know something’s wrong. He knows there’s something there that he can’t see, which will frustrate him at first because the Biakugan is supposed to let him see everything. He’ll probably take a couple hits from the enemy stand user(maybe some random DIO henchman or whatever) and then he notices patterns after the fact. And at that moment he has an idea. “I don’t need to see it, I just need to see everything else around it!” So he adjusts his Biakugan to focus on the airborne air particles being kicked up throughout the fight, and use that like sonar. Finally Neji sees it. An empty void right next to the enemy in the shape of a man getting ready to attack.
That's...actually genius.
Won't matter when he can't react to it. Stands are ftl
@@crimsonking4151 if he can see it, he can avoid it. Don’t need to touch it.
@@rainbowdash4898 he won't be able to get out the way in time
@@crimsonking4151 not all stands are gonna be super fast like Silver Chariot. What makes fighting a stand so suspenseful is not knowing how they work at first, but once you figure out what they can/can’t do the user gets beaten down so hard that they wanna die. Neji ain’t no slouch, and neither are the rest of the characters. Once they get their bearings it’s an even right.
I wonder how the Byakugan would interact with stands or kakyoin’s emerald splash traps.
Im not sure if it would be able to see the energy coming off from the crusaders or see the traps themselves or if it would be able to just see the stands itself. I think it’s an interesting idea.
As far as I'm aware, stands are a soul based thing like ghosts and I don't think byakugun can see ghosts or the soul, at least the basic one. Otsuski is another matter.
The problem is that non-stand users cannot perceive stands, and cannot interact with stands, with a few exceptions.
So the Sound 4/Kimmimaro cannot... uh... do anything against stands. They can't see Star Platinum throwing a punch.
MAYBE Sasuke can see them with his Sharingan. But that's about it.
Also dosen't Jotaro just timestop at the first of the fight; before Sasuke awakens his 3rd tome [he does it IN the fight] and oneshot Sauske? Same with Kimmimaro. He just gets timestop punched before he can prep bones.
Too out of character for jotaro
@@TheWonderfulLadthony First rule of stand users. Don't let other people know how your stand works. Jotaro could time stop everyone but jonin level ninjas are supposed to have enough tactical acumen to deduce how Star Platinum works if he spans time stop too much. Also there's the fact that time stop is slowly killing Jotaro since he isn't a vampire.
@@TheWonderfulLadthony Jotaro is explicity on a mission to retrieve Sasuke from characters who he knows are enemies.
Jotaro NEVER messes around with enemies. This is Jotaro with timestop. He would absolutely timestop and ORAORAORA an enemy.
@@raikaria3090 except Jotaro doesn't have the strength to harm Sasuke
jotaros punch (singular) can be scaled to 28 megatons of tnt from stone free punching and destroying a head size meteor. in actually he should 1 shot sauske @@amineramdan2856
Impossible mismatch, everyone is getting merked in the whole arc with no effort.
Star Platinum and Silver Chariot are both light speed on top of having a time stop. Naruto characters have shown consistent weakness to blades too so honestly Polnareff alone could do this solo, the rest of the crusaders aren't even needed.
Replace the stardust crusaders with DIO and I see it being worse for the enemy. Purely because with most fights with Jotaro he holds back alot and DIO doesn't play around if your not a Jojo. With 10 second time stop that he showed he can basically spammed he could insta kill most of them and make it a more brutal figjt for the rest.
I feel like while ninjas wouldn't be able to see or interact with stands they could still sense stands and maybe even high grade ninjas like Sasuke Cursed Mark 2 could get a rough shape of them
association fallacy. Hol horses emperor was to my knowledge never stated to be just a normal gun, so avdol being heavily damaged doesn't stand as an outlier in his stats. avdol should win pretty easily
Joseph might be massively faster than light?!
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Good video, but I think this would be a lot more fair with a caveat that allows the Crusaders to be capable of being hit by all of the Sound 4's abilities. Like, maybe the Sound 4's abilities interfere with the opponent's fighting spirit, since the fighting spirit is part of what powers Stands in JoJo. It would make Jirobo's chakra sucking barrier and Tayuya's genjutsu more effective. Also, it would probably be better if the Sound 4 could see Stands, as it would make for more interesting conflicts and makes some fights less one-sided.
Also I feel like some of the matchups werent that great. The ones you picked were fine but if I had to pick it would be:
Avdol vs. Jirobo - He would be the first to put his life on the line for everyone else's progression provided Polnareff doesnt get pissed off
Kakyoin vs. Kidomaru - makes sense, two long range tactician fighters
Joseph vs. Tayuya - Joseph could easily play a similar passive role that Shikamaru did in the fight, has a similar ability and battle IQ, and unique abilities of his own to potentially counter genjutsu(? not sure if hamon can directly interfere with brain function beyond physical ability and heightened perception).
Polnareff (and Iggy?) vs. Sakon and Ukon - a perfect mirror to Kiba and Akamaru except Iggy would be more independent. Polnareff is also honestly too fast and strong to combat anyone below Sakon and Ukon, as it would kind of be a wash otherwise.
Jotaro vs. Kimimaro makes sense and continues the narrative idea, though I think giving Jotaro time stop here makes it way too much of a wash. Add Iggy in and Kimimaro has no chance.
Jotaro vs. Sasuke still makes sense and at this point Time Stop is probably a bit more fair, all considering.
About emperor's bullets and avdol, taking into consideration that an armored silver chariot could intercept a beam of light mid movement and that he needed to remove the armor to try and parry emperor's bullet (at least in the anime i don't know in the manga) i think it's safe to assume that it's also faster than light and faster than the light intercept feat so i don't think that diminishes avdol's scaling in any way
He also took a hit from the hanged man at the same time which also messed up his reaction
Kakyoin soloes the arc because nobody can deflect his Emerald Splash (Not joking, it's like he's got an invisible ghost with a gun so what are they going to do ?)
Great video though I do believe it should take into account kinda like Death Battle to play on even grounds where they should be able to see or detect stands whether it be through malevolent energy or how chakra sensory works. Especially given how certain abilities work in Naruto like genjutsu and saying “it doesn’t work because they don’t have chakra” where as a lot of characters in Naruto do NOT possess high levels of chakra. And as a big Naruto enjoyer chakra is essentially the magic system in Naruto and also a functions as something similar to the “force” in Star Wars, it’s everywhere and in everything. Stands also function as their own magic system and are tied to the stand users life force essentially if the stand dies the user dies just like if you’re out of chakra, they also die.
there *is* a difference between "does not have high levels of X" and "does not have X at all" especially when some of the powers directly affect people who aren't able to control their X
Talk no jutsu may work in pollnareff and kakyoin but the others they just gonna start kicking kids
That PREY 'Everything is going to be ok' OST at 9:20 was a nice touch for Kakyoin's profile.
I don’t know anything about Naruto, but now I’m wondering about the SC’s going up against other verses. Could Iggy defeat the 1000-THR Earthmover? Can Jotaro defeat Kölmisilmä? How does The Landlord from Luck Be A Landlord scale? Is he truly multidimensional+ with his Rent ability?
One thing to note is that chakra is not physical energy, it is the mixture of one's physical and spiritual energy.
And also there has been many times shown that "the victim must have chakra" is kind of a fallacy. Now I'm not sure if that's only true for ocular Genjutsu, but chakra is not required in the opponent.
And it is kinda contentious to say that the stand would automatically know what to do against Genjutsu in an interverse battle like this.
Going to the Sasuke fight, a pre land of waves Sasuke was able to vapourise a crator on the ground, and (source from Seth) it has been calced to have the energy output enough to level a city.
His Immature Sharingan at that time was able to track/percieve Haku to some extent which is tracking LS movements.
Sasuke from here till Valley if the end gets a day and night difference in his.
And the biggest disadvantage that Jotaro has is that, the area is literally water, and he can't really stand in water and his stand has, well poor range. Even if you five arguments to possibly increase that, a fatigued Jotaro, who will be needing to fight from the land (even if he tried going in, he'll get in a disadvantage), I think Sasuke has the edge here.
For a One Piece JoJo crossover could you do The Straw Hats vs La Squadra? Or just something part 5 or 6 related since OP is about pirates and 5&6 is about criminals.
it'd certainly be interesting because post timeskip, OP characters tend to have c or ftl feats more commonly and haki almost certainly would allow someone to both perceive and interact with stands. Only problem is that OP characters have way WAY higher AP feats as JJBA reasonably(no good fiction should have fucking planet or continent level feats, that's just silly) has very grounded AP
Glad I could help with the video! Video came out great!
stands are 100% a spirit based power as seen when stand users can see ghosts and stands are a spirit based power. We also know over use of a stand takes a toll on the users physical energy. Chakra is spirit energy and physical energy mixed. So every point of reference on the stardust crusaders not being effected because they dont have chakra is a fallacy and almost deceptive in nature.
The contention about genjutsu is pretty silly because it can be broken down very clearly without at all breaking the canon: Sharingan genjutsu is not the same as regular genjutsu cast with hand signals and such. Jiraiya makes this statement having knowledge of genjutsu but 0 knowledge of genjutsu. The tailed beast and sage creature summons dont have chakra networks but they’re only ever caught in SHARINGAN genjutsu. Furthermore the Sharingan is a devolution of the rinnegon an alien eye meant to defeat people who don’t necessarily have chakra so it wouldn’t make sense if these aliens only had powers that work on each other. That being said, Tayuya doesnt have a Sharingan so yeah her genjutsu just fails
To be fair, Avdol was busy being backstabbed by Hanged Man when he got shot
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Jotaro: yo let's go back
Sasuke: edgy dialouge
Jotaro: yare yare daze *knocks sasuke out and drags him back to the village*
You Mic 🎤 intro reminds me the wonder of you, Jesus Christ.... That stand is so scary
Amazing scenario vid!
I think with these differences caricatures form different verses you need verse equalization so them not doing able to see stands would go away and some of there attacks that effect someone’s chakra like the fluid thing would work overall I would still have the winners be the same because speed but you need to have the power systems and how they effect caricatures be the same
Honestly Joseph would have to rely heavily on Hermit Purple since Hamon isn't effective against beings who aren't weak to the sun. Unless you're a vampire, a pillar person or a Minecraft mob then Hamon isn't really gonna be all that helpful.
Have we read the same series? Hamon quite literally enhances the thing it covers.
Joseph almost Got his leg melted off by Kars using hammon.
@@matijasostojic4288for the record that's because it was literally as hot as the sun
hamon is useful tho? all of the hamon techniques he used?
You forgot that Joseph is also very intelligent and capable of planning on strategies to get around his opponents advantages. Joseph is also insanely lucky, to the point I’m convinced it’s one of his abilities. Jirobo would have the raw power and durability advantage but that hardly matters when his opponent is fully capable of both running circles around him and setting up Shikamaru-tier traps.
I just got done with rereading OG naruto and tayuya was way more dangerous with genjustsu than the chakra snakes. Idk how its even a debate that people with little to no chakra are unaffected by genjutsu, we see people without chakra get effected by genjutsu in the OG naruto during the chunin exams, all the non ninjas and nobles of the land of fire and wind who are there specifically to see what the ninjas they might hire are capable of. One of the biggest things lost from early Naruto is just how important the missions are to the livelihood of the village, the finals of the Chunin exam is literally just an exhibition to show the customer which village is the best to hire. Not to mention if chakra is the defining thing in if genjutsu works than why don't Lee and Guy have any natural resistance to it?(before anyone says it, guy has no resistance to genjutsu, he just trained himself to avoid it by staring at his opponents feet) Both of them can barely even use chakra without using a technique that can kill them if they go to far with it. So if anything less charka should mean your less susceptible to genjustsu, which has just never been the case. The stardust crusaders have no clue how genjutsu even works, so I don't get how polnerefff wouldn't be effected by it. That being said, Polnereff in no way would ever lose to her, he would just get cut up and tossed around a bit by her summons, but eventually realize that he has to be in agony to break the weird illusions. Tayuya just doesnt have any way of hurting him enough to win, Polnereff can literally survive being cut in half and tayuya isn't even getting close to that far. If anything I give META props for even attempting to even scale jojo to naruto at all, both series have fucked scaling ,but JoJo's scaling is just outright fucked all around. Your comparing a serious series with a confused plot and powers which has made questionable plot choices just to set up a big bad guy for the next stage of the series, to a now 9 part series mostly about Giga Chads beating the shit out of other Chads with punch ghost.
To just cut to the chase everybody in naruto has a chakra network some are able to use it and others not so much, the thing is tho there biological born with it the SC crew are not. Even rock lee a man who is implied to have no chakra/can’t use it can still walk on water which requires chakra control.
TBH this whole argument is fucked cause kishimoto probably had an oversight on it
All these people still have chakra, they just can’t mold it into ninjutsu or genjutsu.
I can hear Sasuke getting punch by Star Platinum with the Whiplash Sound Effect. Ouch.
If making a crossover battle you would have equal the vs.
I love how goofy powerscaling is
The worst and the best part about power scaling
REALLLLLLLLLL ITS ALL FOR FUNNN MAN
@@METAsMETAs In character and out Out of character who do you think is the strongest person jotaro could beat in Naruto? For me out of character he’s probably beating anyone in shippuden besides the immortal characters and in character I’m not entirely sure on who he could beat
What an outSTANDing video!
Ngl would love a matchup between the akatsuki at its peak vs a t3am of jojo villains 😂
Loved ur vid btw.
Also congrats for 100k
Or, a team of peak Joestars (Jonathan after Zeppeli's Hamon, Joseph with red stone of aja like during Kars fight, Jotaro in stone ocean with 5s time stop, Josuke, GERno, Jolyne, Tusk act 4 Jhonny, and go beyond Josuke)
@@Splinter-ge9pf The moment u wrote GERno , the match was over 💀
Sharingan genjutsu works on ppl without chakra as we’ve seen sage creatures get put under genjutsu who don’t have chakra and can’t be broken out by using self pain.
itd be cool to see this actually happen thank you for making it true
Jotaro vs Tayuya, Kakyoin vs Kidomaru and Polnareff vs Kimomaru would go pretty hard aesthetically
Abdal requires technique to carry himself, technical gamer.
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*Sakura:* "Plez bring Suskue back to me."
*Jotaro:* "Yakamashii! utto’oshii zo kono ama!!"
This would be more interesting if the crusaders had chakra and the stand could be interacted with, to even the hacks, because an invisible person that can destroy an opponent is quite broken
They got lost because Zoro found them and then they asked if he knew were Dio was and he misheard them and gave them the wrong directions
Even if he heard them right it'd be the wrong directions lol
@@hamzaj1127 Zoro just be the Lost Lost Fruit.
Physical energy isn't chakra. Chakra is made in Naruto by weaving physical energy with mental energy. Physical energy is the one used for taijutsu, so martial arts, so it's basically IRL physical energy.
Tayuya's summons are able to suck out physical energy from whomever they touch, nothing suggests they need a chakra network
META COOKING
Could peril survive stone ocean, could a dalek survive Diamond is unbreakable, and could princess celestia survive golden wing?
28:50 No thing is he can see the specs of dust or pollen in the air fucking move due to Star Platinum, he would be able to see it in action, but not while its not active. But then he would infer its something like Gara's defense but way more powerful.
Jotaro: I see, your jutsu it's the same of stand as Star platinum
Sasuke: I see, your start platinum is the same type of jutsu as Sharingan
ngl the image of Sasuke barely dodging an invisible force slowly approaching towards Jotaro after getting his power up only for Jotaro to go "yare yare" and stop time
Abdul vs spider dude...makes his spider web into a wick to blow him up 😂
Jotaro vs kimmimaru just punches through the bone to his face
Green vs tayuya...just green her ass off guard by surrounding her
oh wow, congrats on hitting 100k big man
I dont know much about bobo but couldnt joseph win since with a single zap of hamon he could shut down all of his internal organs, and him being a fuckton faster than bobo.
He could but you have to remember Joseph isn’t how he used to be like in part 2!
@@METAsMETAs that is true! but it doesnt look like joseph's hamon ability decayed too much during the time skip. While he didnt keep up with it, it still seemed quite strong. but at the end of the day i have no idea how the decaying of ones hamon abilities affect if hoseph could do this, and hey, maybe it just wouldnt work on bobo for some reason. idk.
@@METAsMETAsdoes ones power in hamon matter when all it really takes is a very small amount of hamon to shut organs off and control the muscles of creatures.
@@METAsMETAs also, wouldnt the crusaders just be able to use their stands as tanks? stands can only be hurt by other stands (unless they exist in the actual world like notorius big or somthn) so if they through out a big attack (e.g: sasuke's giga chidori) couldnt the stands just face tank it for 0 damage/
The best matchups would be
Iggy vs Jirobo (Resistence vs Strength)
Kakyoin vs Kidomaru (Ranged Battle)
Joseph vs Tayuya (Intelligence and Strategic Battle)
Avdol vs Sakon (Power vs Hax)
Polnareff vs Kimimaro (Speed and Blades Battle)
Jotaro vs Sasuke (for fun)
Joseph is not faster than light. 💀
i mean he kinda is, the explanation META did was pretty good
plus joseph has a shit ton of iq, like not kidding, i think you forgot he beat the ultimate lifeform, who is supposedly, 3x smarter than joseph
@@SmallBLOX1ultimate lifeform with knowledge of everything on earth
I was thinking you would pair Polnareff with Iggy for Sakon and Ukon for the tag team battle.
Sound 4 are light speed, they blitz the anbu when they make the 4 purple flames formation, anbu stated lightspeed in databooks
Bull sh*t
Theres also a part in the manga where Sasuke completely dodges zaku’s attacks which was at the speed of sound at mere genin level since this was at the time where it was at the chunin exams arc+ when he had two eyed sharingan we can see sasuke with 3 being at light speed level possibly more theres an part in the manga where sasuke runs so fast gaara couldn’t see him he also was keeping up with 1-tailed cloak gaara (for awhile) of course Jotaro has time stop which is his biggest hax here and his reaction timing is great but star platinum can only punch at the speed of light not run at the speed of light
Chunin srry.
3:35 I thought about Polnareff
Like, the pills are similar to SC's armor in concept
Congrats on 100k bro🎉
Ngl I thought i saw gojo at 7:45
Star Platinum just T-Posing to assert his dominance over ASS-UKE, who probably spent the whole fight bitching about being unable to see what the hell was kicking his ass so hard.
well, stands are some kind of psychic ghost energy thing
so i'd argue anyone who can interact with psychic ghost stuff can probably interact with stands too
but i dunno exactly how many Naruto characters count for that
Ngl its always ridiculous to hear about characters being able to destroy cities and move faster than light speed in videos like this.
Like im just imagining polnareff zooming across the block like the flash, stabbing houses until they collapse, then since he does it so fast the city just crumbles in the blink of the eye.
Thanks!
Only Sharingan genjutsu works on non chakra because it implats ITS OWN chakra into the opponents brain
It should have been Avdol vs Tayuya as Avdol is a fortune teller against an illusionist flute user and Polnareff and Iggy VS Salon and Ukon
i disagree that Haku is lightspeed , because kcm 1 naruto ( is light speed ) > haku >edo haku . and there's no way kid sasuke is light speed , and if that's the case start of shippudin sasuke blitzes the 4th raikage . so kimimaru and sasuke and haku aren't lightspeed , that's why the data books aren't reliable
It’s stated with the ice mirrors he’s light speed, naruto kuubi amped blizted him and Sasuke could react with his sharigan, yes kmc 1 naruto is light speed but that doesn’t mean haku isn’t. Haku had a very rare kekki genkai on top of the selection rate of how to become a ninja in the hidden mist being put in a 100 man battle royale to the death makes it seem like your underestimating haku, Sasuke also has the sharigan
if haku is lightspeed it means that kyubi naruto from part 1 is lightspeed ,that's why the databooks aren't 100% reliable@@Wezlii530
Great video, but I feel that you use speed scales in an overly simplified way, like sound speed was in any way near light speed, so for next videos remember:
Sound speed (Mach 1) = 343 meters per second
Light Speed = 299.792.458 meters per second
They are veeeeeeery different.
Also, the light speed scale only starts been a thing in the pre ninja war arc, and there are like at max 10 people til the end o Naruto shippuden that are possibly LS level, and I say possibly because i've already seen people making calculations and saying that some of this 10 didn't achieve this level
With that we can assume that Polnareff, Avdol and obviously Jotaro stands (and only stands, because none human made by Araki have motion speed even near to Mach 2) have a enormous advantage of speed.
Again: great video and continue to improve man
The crusaders win each fight because Iggy comically gets in the sound 5's way and "accidentally" defeats them
If he tells Jotaro how his bone hardening powers works it's gg for kimmimaru. If he time stop before he hardens it's gg for him plus star platinum could punch a hole in him
What is this fire content. Keep it coming, please.
There is no way in hell that those guys are casually massively ftl
They are so
So to note: the entirity of Haku v Naruto was him holding back. He didnt WANT to kill them, but he felt the need to. So its contentious if Naruto is FTL but I'd disagree
Stardust Crusaders vs the 10 commandments from seven deadly sins video idea
So who dies?
Saying that powers that affect chakra won't work on none chakra users just says that you didn't watch or remember the part were it is made of physical energy aka life energy aka jojo world hamon and spiritual energy aka soul energy aka stands as they are compared to souls two words if you don't buy it reaper seal and ren eye. Then we have the fact that chakra powers have worked on none chakra users in the past of the show look in other people's comments. This really needs redone if you don't buy any of this then a few things 1 this has to take place in naruto 2 this means nature chakra is present 3 nature chakra passively invades everything in small amounts normally not harm full to people have physical and spiritual energy or chakra to over power it 4 and final if none of the jojo people have no way to inter act with chakra they turn to stone from nature chakra going into the body and not having anyway to prevent it. Note I still think that sound side will lose even if their powers can now work on stardust crusaders would just want a more true full? and non nerfed discussion. On the can't see stand as they are the users soul/hamon nija can't see but can sense chakra so they would know were stands are but not what they are or doing. For reason go back to top on why stand/hamon are basically parts of chakra in different forms.