Oh absolutely dudes bugs could've easily tracked Sasuke down also I think Shino and Kidomaru would've been an interesting match up due to bug connection he actually would've done better then Neji in that situation since shino can attack better from a distance
Shino and Lee probably would have teamed up on Kimimaru not Shino's fault but i dont think that would change anything Garra would just save both of them
@@nsslaughter805 not necessarily. If Kabuto still becomes the snake sage it kind of plays out the same. He would have anko and Sasuke would release him from his sage Jutsu curse seal. I think the hokage still come back anyway. I know that juugo got the flesh from Kabuto but because he asked suigestu to do it, just serves to show he could have done it on his own.
@@marisamendes6894 She could have done it and be back in a minute and it simply isn't possible that there were no more ninja loyal to the leaf in the village at the time.
@@zelprimo Repairs can afford a half a day's worth of delays to keep Orochimaru from getting the Sharingan which would skyrocket his threat level especially long term.
I feel like the extra time Sasuke would have spent with the leaf instead of a orochimaru would make his reaction to itachi‘s truth a little different. He’d be less coldhearted and more rational in my opinion. I’d think that he would be more focused on killing the village elders specifically instead of the leaf village.
Except Obito would still have to be there which means the idea that uchiha need hatred to get stronger would be reinforced in sasukes head regardless meaning he would still find himself hating more people.
people forget before Sasuke learnt the truth he had been quite sain not killing people he fought like purposly leaving them alive as all he wanted to do was kill itachi but when he learnt the truth he went off the deepend honestly the result should be the same here as sauske would have a further connection to the leaf and would feel he has been lied to all his life
@@justyouraveragegamer8733 No. Shino later complains that he wasn't taken with them. This means he was most likely there (or that Kishi forgot about Shino being busy)
@@orianefaton1885 it doesn't mean that at all, he missed out on maybe the most important event they had faced at that point, regretting missing out on that is pretty normal
Lol if everyone were to gather, the mission would be easy peasy. They would just outnumber the 4th sound ninja, furthermore since the sand ninja would also join them, it would be even easier to obtain sasuke.
Shino was all they needed he was easily the best member to have in that mission also let’s not forget choji and neji 1v1 their opponents so with the whole squad would of body them easily
True Shino easily tracked Sasuke once before while he was chasing Gaara, being there to fight Kankuro even through he was behind Naruto, Sakura and Shikamaru when he noticed them leaving the Arena.
I wouldn’t say they’d get bodied, but definitely have a harder time and it’d all depend on which members Shikamaru decided to leave behind. But yeah Shinso was not doubt the strongest member of the Konoha 11 at the time, he was just a monster, and Shikamaru would know to leave him til the end.
He'll make huge difference against sakon and kimimaru for sure, while kimimaru is waay stronger than shino, he's also sick and shino being shino would exploit that, and i don't think kimimaru can do much to prevent that
I'm so happy to see the Shino love in the comments section. He would auto tilt the scales MASSIVELY in the Genins favor by himself. Shino mightve been shafted in the story, but not here 😄
@@PsychologyStud he used the pill to enter his butterfly form. The pills kills you. Choji was dying but tsunade was able to reverse the effects and save his life after the fight.
@@davidlhardin3 but this wouldn't change that since the same factors would play out that bring choji back to be saved and I'm sure choji would be brought back to tsunade
I don’t really think this plan makes a lot of sense division and results wise. Why would Shikamaru leave Hinata behind instead of Tenten when Tenten isn’t really used for anything later on? It seems like a better plan would be leaving behind Tenten with Choji, allowing her to pressure Jirobo from a distance and allowing Choji to secure the kill without using the third pill. This would leave Choji weakened, but then Tenten would advance and catch up with the rest of the group, requesting that Sakura go back to heal Choji. Having Hinata be with Neji from the start would be the best choice, as Neji and Hinata would be able to cover each other for the entire battle. This would also be a good opportunity for Tenten to help- being a long range fighter, or for the Hyuga to first use their Air Palm. This leaves Sakura and Choji furthest behind, with Tenten and the two Hyuga trailing the rest of the team. Kiba can then hold his own until either the Hyuga or Kankuro arrive. Tenten should advance here. Sakura and Choji coming behind still. This would be a pretty easy win once help shows. Shikamaru and Ino would then stay behind to deal with Tayuya. They’ll secure the barrel temporarily and Kimimaro takes it back, splitting Naruto and Shino from the other two. Once Tenten arrives here (her long range is very useful is many battles), with Ino preventing any Genjutsu and Tenten setting up trap points and shade for Shadow Possession, they’ll win. By this time, Sakura and Choji would have caught up with the two Hyuga, Kiba, Kankuro, and Temari (who probably would secure the killing blow on Tayuya), then joining with Ino and Shikamaru. This leaves the rest of the team shortly behind everyone else. Lee and Gaara are coming in from behind them. Sasuke awakens and runs off. The others are all caught up so Naruto, Sakura, Shino, Neji, and Shikamaru follow after him while Temari, Kankuro, Kiba, Ino, and Hinata fight Kimimaro. Choji is on the sidelines resting. Lee arrives, not needing the Drunken Fist, then Gaara, Kimimaro should probably be defeated before he succumbs to his illness (probably allowing him to survive for later use). They all then advance. While the others are catching up, Naruto, Neji, and Shino clash with Sasuke. Due Sasuke’s speed as well as the fight switching between land and water constantly, Shikamaru can’t land his Shadow Possession. Sakura is tired of being on the sidelines, and finally jumps in, attempting to reason with Sasuke with Naruto and contributing diversions for Shikamaru to land his SP. This finally works, and Sasuke is stopped, before going Stage 2 and overpowering it. Luckily, the others finally catch up, and they are able to overpower Sasuke- barely. Kakashi finally arrives and carries Sasuke back with the others. After reasoning with Sasuke for quite some time, Team 7 finally convinces Sasuke to stay, under the condition that Sasuke learns to control his Curse Mark better from Kakashi and Anko. Sakura finally gains her resolve and no longer waits on the sidelines, learning better healing and taijutsu from Tsunade- along with improving her Genjutsu and chakra control from Kurenai. Naruto leaves with Jiraiya for a few years. Observing Sasuke’s improvement over time, Obito instigates Sasuke and Itachi’s final confrontation. After Sasuke wins and learns the truth- he’d actually want to stay, but of course be very antagonistic against village rules and lose some of his Will of Fire. He’d clash with Team 7 over this before deciding to kill Danzo and the elders in secret. Sasuke succeeds, but is found out by Danzo alerting the Anbu in his dying breath, forcing Sasuke to go on the run. I know this was a LOT, but I think such a huge change would have huge consequences. Shikamaru is smart and would have plans to use his team effectively for the best results. Sasuke reconciling with Team 7 would keep Sasuke attached to the village. His team is his family 100% now. So I don’t think he’d go completely insane like before, and would instead serve as a sort of lone wolf anti-hero. He may seek out Orochimaru at this time, only for more power to make sure he can prevent another Uchiha massacre by becoming his version of Hokage we see him talk about at the end of Part II. Obito may even throw a wrench in these plans…
"having Hinata be with Neji from the start would be the best choice, as they can cover each other for the entire battle" But Shikamaru doesn't know the battle is gonna happen. He didn't know the sound 4 would get the barrel back and then one of them would try to hold them off. He also doesn't even know what the enemies powers are, and even if he did, doesn't know who would stay behind to fight the genin. On top of that, he doesn't know the Byakugan has a Blindspot (it's a well guarded secret), and that Neji and Hinata would have to cover each other anyway. Plus, it was NEJI who realized he had to stay and fight kidomaru, because only he had the ability to cut his threads. Shikamaru wouldn't have been able to figure that out cuz he doesn't know the specifics of the gentle fist technique. From Shikamaru's perspective, Neji and Hinata are both close range fighters that can can shut people's chakra points down and have long range have 360 vision, the only difference is Hinata is weaker. Jirobo is also a close range fighter, so their jutsu would be effective against him. It would make sense to leave Hinata. So unfortunately your story falls apart here. Though I don't think it was a perfect analysis either
@@OwenCTynes True, the blind spot is a secret, however it’d surely make sense that against strong opponents Neji or Hinata would make the suggestion to stay together.
Honestly the entire sasuke retrieval arc would have given shino the absolute advantage. His bugs would be EVERYWHERE. The scene where they finally find sasuke? He would have had all DAY to prepare insects. Guess what its biblical plague day bitches.
Don't discount Hinata's abilities. She has speed feats from the Chunin Exams. Her hand to hand combat speed was on par with Neji for a while and that's a big deal. If she gets close enough to land a gentle fist on Jirobo, she will land it. His hand movement speed is no where near as fast as a Hyuga's. The Hyuga Clan specifically train their whole life in hand to hand combat and Hinata also possesses a pair of Byakugan. She can see Jirobo's Chakra Network. Again, close quarters against a Hyuga should be a loss for anyone because their hand speed is second to none.
On par with Neji? She doesnt hit him a single time, getting ALL of her hits parried, and then nearly dies. Takes so much more speed and precession to block EVERY one of her attacks. Even at 75% his speed shed have been able to tag him at least a few times, she was no where near on par with Neji at this time. He basically talked to her like she was dirt, which further solidifies this as her competing somewhat at his level wouldnt have warranted that kind of reaction I believe. Jirobo 100% 3 taps Hinata around that time if shes trying to 1v1 him aggressively
Adding just Shino pretty much changes everything about the arc. Sasuke is tracked faster, all opponents pretty much get slapped by his parasitic insects or at least zoned out. Kimmimaru gets mind swapped and then instantly sand coffined by Gaara whilst he isnt in control of his mind therefore not able to amp his bones at that moment. It honestly just depends on who you allocate to which fight, but the Sound 4 get washed fairly quickly, Kimmimaru then gets ran up on by at least 4 of the 12 and gets slapped around by hax. They catch up to Sasuke and Lee goes 5th gate and waxes his cheeks causing him to further progress his curse mark and go into v2, he then bodies Lee, Naruto sees this and more than likely either goes 1 OR possibly even 2 tails due to seeing one of his classmates almost dying, no matter how you look at it Sasuke gets overwhelmed and brought back to the village.
@@coop7008 Indeed, Sasuke would probably to go straight into his Bat form to make Lee back off, that is, if he can considering that was the first time he was evolving his Curse
@@coop7008 Lmao?? Yes he is. He is quite literally hard stated to be 1) The strongest Genin in the leaf. 2) The strongest opponent Gaara has ever faced, despite fighting Lee lmaooo. Both are databook statements, idk why you thought Lee would be stronger than one of the 2 main characters
While Kiba and Hinata vs Sakon & Ukon would be a fair fight As for Tenten.... I dunno. Her screentime is so low that I couldn't fathom which fight she would be good in. Definitely not against Kimimaro though, as she'd just be a burden and her explosions + ninja tools wouldn't do anything to someone who could resist Gaara's Sabaku Soutaisou. Ino would be good against Tayuya. That's for sure.
@@King_of_Antisemites Agreed but I feel like if kiba could rip them both into their respected bodies having an extra member would mean that they can't do the rashamon barrier which leaves the other one open
@@King_of_Antisemites Ino AND Sakura VS Tayuya. Remember that Tayuya used Genjustu and Sakura is great at that. She could cancel Tayuya's Genjustus and let Ino do the rest, as Ino was stronger then.
I hate how they made him look so corny in Boruto. I don’t mind him being a teacher at the academy, but at least make him a strong silent type of teacher, and have him keep his look from the last few episodes of Shippuden
When I was younger I used to think that having Lee in the Squad initially would've made such a huge difference. As much of a Lee fan as I am, I don't think he'd do much except destroy Jirobo and that's it. He'd probably catch up too but being hot off thr surgery and being limited to only thr 1st gate would be the huge issue
I agree with what @wolfhead said in response to @Psychology Stud 's comment. Hinata would bring a dying Choji to the gates of the Leaf Village to be picked up by the guards and taken to Tsunade who would heal him as she did in the original, there's no reason why Choji would die now and not in the original now that he has Hinata's help. Then Hinata should rejoin the mission and arrive half way through Neji's battle with Kimimaro to end the fight without Neji being hurt.
If Hinata and Ino were on the mission as well it'd be an insane difference, Ino could literally just no diff a Sound Five Member and leave them open to being killed by someone else. Hinata was a Byakugan User and could have easily been a help with tracking them down, Shino would have been a massive help as well
@@pablozanoto5801 No. He was "dying". Tsunade stopped him from dying by reversing the effects. Him receiving help means that Choji would not have to be forced into using the pills
2:00 *Her abilities cannot be made light of, and it remains to be seen how she will develop from here.* I nearly spit out my smoothie from that line from the databook
He sugested Ino risking her life by making her killed herself (which I don't think is a really good idea. I doubt Ino has the level of skill of undoing the justu just second prior to Tayuya being beheaded or whatever they try. Would work better to have her standing still, let Shikamaru Shadow possess her and then kill her while she can't move. I am sure Tenten have a weapon or two that can make for a swift decapitation (oh, wait, I think she was on the Kiba team... Nevermind that then)
i think this could go down a bit differently. (aka never split the party) Shikamaru wants to retrieve Sasuke. Failing that he wants to interrogate these Sound Nin to gain info on their evac point, base of operations, etc. If he can get that he gets a second chance at retrieving Sasuke and/or can provide the Village with info to deal with Oro. The Sound Nin have left a member behind. It's 10 against 1. Ino has access to mind reading powers. If she can read his mind Shikamaru gets access to all that information he wanted. Kiba is very likely how the group is tracking the Sound Nin. If Kiba can't find them then odds they won't be able to locate them, especially after losing time due to the earth jutsu. Additionally Shikamaru does not know if additional Sound Nin will show up to assist the Sound 4, if the team is running into an ambush through a feinted retreat, etc. With this in mind, and given the fact that Shikamaru doesn't like sacrificing pieces even in pretend bouts like Shogi, Shikamaru decides to have Naruto create a large number of clones, have those clones give chance, and have everyone else rush down the left behind Sound Nin with the goal of disabling said Sound Nin if possible. Naruto's clones will be able to alert the rest of the team on where the Sound Nin are, what the Sound Nin are up to, etc. by popping and having all that info transferred into Naruto's head. Since they are only clones there is no chance that a team member is killed. Neji and Hinata both possess a style of Taijutsu built specifically to disable. Neji's skill with Taijutsu is on par with a Jonin (based on Kakashi's words). Odds are, with just these two, he would be able to disable this guy. However to further add that he has Shino, who's bugs can eat this guy's chakra, Ino, who can mind control if she can get a clear shot, and himself, who can disable him with his shadow. Add Naruto to that and it's a wrap. So they disable him, have Ino break into mind, have his body and Ino's body carried by another pair of Naruto clones, and begin chasing down these Nin again. Because of all the NIn involved the fight likely ended quickly. Once Ino's done interrogating this guy they kill him. Once that's done they have Naruto send clones of himself back to the Hidden Leaf with the info they uncovered. Now, even if they fail, and potentially get killed, Naruto's clones will be able to provide the rest of the Village with info. Rise and repeat, more or less, with the rest of Sound Nin.
Am I the only ones which wishes we actually got this version. Would’ve been nice to have much more time to build naruto and sasuke’s bond and you could always keep a solid rivalry
I'm under the impression that when Naruto is away with Jiraiya, Sasuke might be an Anbu and be trained by them during the time skip. It allows Sasuke to get the training he needs, and experience with lack of identity. Sasuke would be MIA during the time skip only appearing for the Chunin exams. He would be like Neji, a Jounin after the time skip but no one would know about his whereabouts before then.
@@15jewjew yes, which could lead to the Yamato and Team 7 looking for Orochimaru's hide outs. It would be be really cool since i expect Sasuke go through the normal timeline after killing Itachi and then Sasuke would know Danzo.
I think if only Shino and Sakura had gone along with the others, Sasuke would be back. However, to make Sakura more useful, let's suppose that Kakashi paid attention to her and did some deep Genjustu training with her. Shino is so strong and smart that if he stayed in any fight, opponents would easily fall. Sakura, on the other hand, could either stay with/replace Shikamaru in the battle against Tayuya, because the two girls are Genjustu users, or go with Naruto after Kimimaro. Naruto would perhaps be safer with Sakura and the Genjustus around, as she could lock the sound ninja into an illusion, opening up several loopholes for Naruto to do the heavy lifting. Sasuke would eventually escape the barrel and go after Orochimaru, however Naruto couldn't leave Sakura alone to face Kimimaro or to rescue Sasuke, as the two Team 7 ninjas know that Sakura isn't such a thing. So either Lee or Shino would arrive and assist, allowing Naruto to go after Sasuke. Sakura would go along with Naruto or help Lee/Shino, unless the two boys arrived together, then she would go after her beloved. When Team 7 reunited, Naruto would fight Sasuke, but perhaps Sakura would be able to use Genjustu/Emotional and Mental Destabilizing Speech to bring Sasuke back to the good side. If not, after all the rivals' battle, Sakura and probably Gaara who should have already arrived, would stop the exhausted Uchiha and the mission would be successful.
@@whenanimmovableforcemeetsa6053 I think so too, but this would be the perfect opportunity to show that Sakura knows how to do something too. But really, if Shino had gone with the others, Sasuke would be back in Classic.
Mental Destabilizing Speech that's not even a skill and you know it. Plus, Sasuke has the sharingan, which means any genjusu sakura would likely attempt would be useless
Though, Sasuke also stated that Sakura is better at genjustu than him (and let's all face it. Do Sasuke give 'compliment' to someone who isn't having said skill ?) But, yeah, one of the reason Sakura is even so weak in Classic Naruto is because Kakashi do not even train her. We see him training Sasuke, but for example, he gives Naruto's training to someone else. He only properly trained one student at the time (plus, if the guy post timeskip is surprised by Sakura's strength, something tell me he didn't train with her at all, in three years ! During which she was his ONLY student avaible)
Kiba and Hinata vs Sakon & Ukon would be a fair fight. As for Tenten.... I dunno. Her screentime is so low that I couldn't fathom which fight she would be good in. Definitely not against Kimimaro though, as she'd just be a burden since Kimimaro would just deflect her tools when she threw those at him (that's the only technique she knows: hurling ninja tools at her opponent) and her explosions + ninja tools wouldn't do anything to someone who could resist Gaara's Sabaku Soutaisou. Ino would be good against Tayuya. That's for sure. As for Shino, he'd be good against Kidoumaru together with Neji. But in the end, they would still take time to reach Naruto & Sasuke. And Sasuke could still make his way to Orochimaru. The end of N vs S' fight wasn't that long from the end of the others' fights in the canon after all, otherwise the others (like Neji & Chouji) wouldn't be saved from death. Adding a few Genins would cut the time they need to win, but only by a half. By that time, Naruto & Sasuke would be near the end of their fight, the beginning of when Naruto's at KCM0.1. and Sasuke's at Curse Mark Lv 2. And this is already me taking consideration about Gaara's team. Why? Because with the other Genins involved, Temari and Kankuro would have no reason to go to the other Genins location, and they would end up with Gaara & Lee against Kimimaro. But with Kimimaro's power, them being there would actually mean nothing, as they would just be like Lee; they wouldn't be able to do anything at all against Kimimaro, and he wouldn't let them pass to help Naruto, at least for a while until he died due to his disease. By the time all of them arrive at the Final Valley, they wouldn't be able to do anything to help Naruto, as both Naruto & Sasuke's fight at that time was already way above their levels, even combined. Remember, even Kakashi was shocked at their power level and the fact that even he could feel it despite the distance he had with them even though he isn't a sensory type Ninja. In conclusion, adding all of the Genins in the mission would probably change the ending, but not about Sasuke. The mission would still be a failure, but with less Genin on critical condition.
Tenten with shikamaru or/and ino's help can most likely defeat tayuya. Well to be honest shikamaru more though It doesn't really matter if no one can intervene in the Naruto vs Sasuke fight. Sasuke will simply be out of chakra once he is done with Naruto, and anyone who is there on time will be able to knock him out, as he will be too weak to resist
I would have still had the mission fail, but had more of a battle involving Kimimaro-specifically in my version Kimimaro does not just die of a mystery illness, and instead the Leaf ninja have to use teamwork (specifically I would have it be Rock Lee, HINATA, and TENTEN (and later Gaara) vs Kimimaro-this also serves as early Kaguya foreshadowing in that by having a Byakugan user fight against a Shikotsumyaku user, part of Kaguya Otsutsuki’s DNA is reunited by fate). Also, I would have made it so we get an early glimpse of the Yamanaka mind link by having Ino use it, but her version is not fully developed and fails due to the Sound 4 using clever tactics to force the Retrieval Team to split up (as well as Tayuya infiltrating her mind link with genjutsu and causing everyone to experience nightmarish hallucinations-forcing Ino to shut it down), while at the same time Shino tries to use his bugs to assist, but winds up overextending himself trying to support Neji (we can also include mention of past hatred between the Aburame Clan and Kidomaru’s clan, given the insect vs spider theme), Kiba, AND Shikamaru-with Sakon and Ukon using their Kekkei Genkai to infiltrate their cells into Shino’s bugs and destroy them. Basically the only person who doesn’t go on the mission is Sakura, given that due to her shame over what had happened the previous night, she feels that she would be nothing but a liability for her teammates, even though Naruto wants her to come on the mission (basically Sakura is filled with self-loathing after that night and feels that it is her fault-and both Hinata and Ino mercilessly berate her the following morning (low-key justifiably given how insensitive Sakura was when she tried to convince Sasuke to stay)).
At the end sasuke if he has stayed in the leaf how does his potential growth compare to that of what he was under Orochimaru? I know yiubdiandthet eere close but he could get cross trained in more genjutsu but Kurenai potentially. I knows she’s got 0 feats but there’s an angle there I’m sure plus the clones. Maybe kakashi actuslyl gets much stringers as well since he also has a sharingan. I feel like they almost get a zen Kai boost from sharingan amp if that makes sense. Id wager he could possibly high diff the original timeline Sasuke. Maybe you could do a caveat video on that. This one is awesome. Keep up the great work bro!
Lol forget the genin, I think they forgot the ANBU existed during this entire arc, even off duty jonin LOL. Oh yeah let's only send our genin NINE TAILS JINCHURIKI and a genin who possess the BYAKUGAN to possibly fall into the hands of Orochimaru 😂😂😂
They didn't forget. They were on mission because the sand pretty much inspired everyone to test the land of fire's border You can however argue that Jiraya could have been there, and if he is, it's a stomp, no questions asked
Um no this would have been a huge change especially for sasuke. No curse mark mastery, no chidori techniques, no immunity to poison, no elixers/medicines to make him stronger over time NO KIRIN, no training with 100 ninjas to be "heartless", no hebi/taka,would have lost to deidara, itachi would have died not fighting him feeling he wasnt ready. side note, naruto would not have the motivation to learn wind style and ultimately would have been captured in the pain arc
The Drugs was a theory however I find it doubtful it was true I think they just underestimated Sasuke's Growth he went from Far below Weighted Lee to On par or above Weightless Lee in a Month All of his Original Chidori variants would be upgraded to Raikiri Variants including Kirin which he would learn much earlier(Side note Kakashi would have help invent all of these and learned them himself) Better Sharingan Mastery(Actually Training with a Sharingan user is much better then Training with someone who only knows of the sharingan's abilities) A better Variety of Jutsu(lightning style shadow clones, Lightning Cable, Lightning Hound) Mastery over other elements(Water/Earth) Sasuke also would be way more tactically Minded never going into a fight without a plan and even if he does he can think of one quickly Better Genjutsu He would still have his CM2 and still train with it maybe Kakashi brings Anko in to help with that(both Anko & Sasuke have the Same Curse Mark) He would be a Jonin and go on Many missions meaning he likely has more experience
He never used drugs. He mocked Orochimaru for it. So same stats He would still have chidori techniques and kirin, he is training with Kakashi the Litteral creator of chidori, and a lighting specialist himself No snake and poison immunity though. But the leafs, hell Kakashi alone have plenty of other jitsu he can learn The training with the 100 ninja is cool but he can do that in konoha, we littérally don't know how strong they were, and missions are good training, just see the land of waves
Well tbh you gotta remember the time they had. Chuunin and Jonin were on missions and the leaf had to make sure other places don't attack. Then Shika had to find a team before they got past the border with Sasuke
I'm sure they would have all still had their one on ones, and then had a numbers advantage against Sasuke, until Kimimaro basically reduced it to just Naruto, only for Lee to save him.
If Ino was in the Sasuke Retrieval Arc mission, then the team would have succeeded because everyone knows that Sauske will slam Ino against a table and start breeding her for fun
I don’t think Choji would die if he had Hinata with him. Hinata’s gentle fist would make more of a difference than the video says. Even with the curse mark activated, I think hinata would be able to keep up in hand to hand combat and shut down more chakra points.
I don't think she can keep up once the curse mark goes in. However there's no actual evidence the curse mark would act like Kyubi chakra and override the tenketsu blocking. If it doesn't jirobo is done for because he will be unable to leave his base If it does it will still be up to chojii to be the main tank. However there's two things that can happen -Either Hinata cannot intervene and choji is on the verge of death. Once choji win, she carries him to the village more quickly but because of this she probably cannot go help the others, unless choji begs her to prioritize the mission - choji in the orange pill cannot keep up with curse mark 2, but can survive long enough for Hinata to get new hits in, which will again paralysé jirobo, and let the duo claim a close victory. Choji will no longer be able to fight, but his life won't be in danger, so Hinata can still continue the mission without worries
If all of them would have been sent I could see hinata either staying back and helping choji or shikamaru. Cutting off jirbo’s chakra could help choji end the fight quicker. Her byakugan along side shikamaru’s tactian skills and shadow possession would aid him enormously Tenten could aid neji as he needs someone to aid him against the numbers advantage kidomaru has. Ino could assist shikamaru Shino could help kiba, neji shikamaru or choji. Man’s kit is multipurpose and effective against all the sound ninja save kimimaru Sakura at this point has nothing in her kit that would help anyone. She could go with Naruto and use some emotional shit to help sasuke turn back them but that’s about it
IMO I feel they needed one more like a +1 of the girls (healer but I don’t remember much healers at this point , intel such as Ino or Kakashis dogs w Kiba, recon-trap setting like Hinata or Tenten) cuz although Rock Lee came through on the Kimimaru fight, if it wasn’t for that things COULD have looked downright worse cuz Naruto WAS NOT on fighting par to him. The very elite sound 4 vs 5 [6] just finishing chunin exams PLUS Gaara came through after LEE HIMSELF was struggling. It nearly costed the others their lives and I really thought my boy Neji and esp Choji lost their lives after using such an extent of power.
I think gentle fist is essentially a counter to sakon and ukon. Even with the relatively weaker Hinata, as long as her teammates help her gets hit in, she will pretty much disable them. Or she will once they try to hijack her body I agree that Hinata probably can't help against jirobo because sticking to close combat will get her killed Surprised she would do well with kidomaru though, since his attacks are fast ans she lackz neji reflexes, but i can accept family/will of fire amp Doesn't really matter much though Tenten and shikamaru are probably enough for tayuya, shikamaru lacked the power to finish tayuya off but littérally anyone would do Considering the massive leap Sasuke made in 3 month with Kakashi help i feel like his stats and lightning release prowess would stay the same with him. However he would not use the curse mark anymore, or only in extreme cases, and no snake summons which are a drawback. But to be fair the leafs have good enough jutsus as replacement
I feel like hinata might be in over her head against kidmaru and there is a big chance she could endanger neji since he needs to protect the main branch.... I don t see hinata being able to exert chalkra from all points of her body yet so she could get clapped or put in a bad position early
I mean, between her emotional state already and the fact that during that time, Sakura is basically useless. (I love her, but I can't argue with someone about that) I wouldn't be surprise if she has momoent where she is crying through the mission.
I feel like Shino's influence is being really understated here, every fight with him is just a waiting game because his bugs eat chakra. If any of the fights dragged on long enough, they'd win. I also don't think Tsunade would see the need to send team Gaara if ALL the genin went. I'd love to see an analysis of how you think they'd do with no back up
I am not sure. She could still be worried. She originally wanted to send Jonins but none were avaible. (and the Sand siblings already has barely any screentime, do not take even more away from them, please)
At that point it couldn't hurt, this IS Orochimaru we're dealing with. The guy that managed to reck my village, manipulate another, and kill the Third Hokage. Granted he lost his arms and is weakened, but he has some pretty powerful henchmen. And I just sent 10 genin and one newly minted chunin (all barely a year or two out of the academy) after sasuke, but considering my right hand woman's team got attacked and two Jounin nearly dead, yeah I probably should send more backup. My forces are spread pretty thin, but I wouldn't be willing to risk the guy who made it pretty freaking clear he is going to destroy my village getting the fucking Sharingan, so yeah you best believe I'm taking those three sand ninja for free. Particularly the one with the Sand's tailed Beast sealed inside him, who managed to go toe to toe with Naruto (who in turn held his own against Orochimaru and Kabuto).
Truly the only remaining one that would of made a difference was Shino. Hinata definitely would of helped though chijo fight but I don’t think she changes the overall outcome. But shino definitely added in more than likely sasuke is saved.
Hey stone village hear about the situation Lighting village make there case to establish a capture mission on sauske But hey let use genin under a fresh chunnin is right
But with the help of training under kakashi help sasuke kill itachi would it be enough I mean itachi almost killed him with training under one of the legendary sanin would he improve that much with kakashi ?
I don’t think this changes anything, Sasuke can casually smack Shino and Neji at this point and the others who join aren’t that powerful. Gaara never joined in canon so I doubt he’d come here. Sasuke isn’t outmatched here as he’s significantly faster then everyone. He has the 3 tomoe and the curse mark 2 which makes him able to react to almost everyone there. He can blitz pretty much everyone and he has no quarrels with murdering any of them on sight. So I don’t see why he lost.
@@coop7008 But Naruto using his Kyūbi is significantly stronger then everyone there, as long as Naruto doesn’t activate the Kyūbi then CM2 Sasuke can stomp everyone.
@@katusakirocks5630 You’re bugging if you think Sasuke would just stomp Neji AND Shino at this point, the way you’re describing him makes him seem way stronger than he is.
I don't think Orochimaru would attack the leaf alone I believe he would use team Taka to potentially help him, which would greatly pressure the leaf, but the leaf still wins because of Guy, but there's also a chance that Danzo might do some shady stuff to help Orochimaru like using the foundation, for his own selfish pursuit of power for becoming hokage.
I believe the truth about Itachi wouldn't have had the same effect if Sasuke never left with Orochimaru. His mind was further contorted to become colder once he was in Orochimaru's company 24/7. Him changing his mind about going to Orochimaru would imply a genuine change in his attitude. While I still think he'd be upset with the Leaf, I'm not so sure he'd be inclined to destroy the village in it's entirety when he's spent his entire life up to adulthood there creating even stronger bonds...
Sasuke wouldn’t have continued on his path to kill Naruto. He defiantly would’ve just fled lol. Good what if otherwise there’s absolutely no way that he was gonna be that blood lusted number 1 considering he never finished Naruto in the normal route. Secondly Sasuke prioritized finding the man who could help him get stronger that came way before his petty issues with the leaf.
It doesn't matter if he tries to flee, with the whole squad being there after him he is not leaving Kakashi will eventually catch up too and it will be a wrap. Even if you say they get to the land of sound, Kabuto and Sasuke can't beat the whole squad all by themselves, mainly because of one tailed Naruto who is op. With Kakashi it's out of question The only way for Sasuke fleeing to still end up in Orochimaru's hand is that A) Sasuke somehow managed to evade the whole squad without rest to the land of sound B) Orochimaru Is mostly healed and can fight Then yeah i can see this being a massacre, but it stretches logic a lot
But if Kimimaru use his last attack everyone will die except for Gaara because he can fly and he can carry only one of them because he lost a lot of chakra.
I doubt Sakura, Ino and Tenten would add much and no, I'm not being sexist. What did they they have to contribute? Sakura and Ino would basically be useless here since they weren't noteworthy much during part 1. There is a reason why Shikimaru didn't include them in canon.
Did you forget Ino can literally possess a person body if given the chance ? And Tenten is a walking weapon store. It can always be useful in the eyes of a tactician I think. (Sakura would however be pretty much useless during the fight itself. Maybe more useful about helping giving first aid once the fighting is done)(which, could still serve as a motivation for her to be Tsunade's disciple, because she is done being useless when other needs her like that)
Would sasuke learn Kirin and would he still be as strong as he was against the Raikage. But even with the changes, he definitely would still get an EMS and I think lore wise it would’ve been a lot cooler had sasuke not left cuz nobody likes Sai.
Kirin is Sasuke own jutsu, is lightning based and is made to kill itachi.Unless being in the leaf makes him dumber there's no reason he would not have it He would not have the snake summons, and wouldn't master, nor use the curse mark anymore though he still could in dire situation, but would refrain from it because it gives Oro power over him
I mean, if I'm being a 100 percent honest I think kimimaru would probably kill all the genin (except naruto), but he'd die before gaara's group got there, after that I think gaara and the gang could catch sasuke after he's on his last legs from fighting naruto.
I dunno. Naruto's clones had the use to at least let Shikamaru find out what the guy is capable of and coming up with plan. (same applies with the other that wouldn't fight with the blind spot of 'what can that guy do'. They got to see the shit go down)
Because the Shinobi World doesn't give a fuck how old you are regardless and just gets you killed, it just raises the stakes scine not everyone can make it unfortunately its like having Guy not die during the War arc...
If Sasuke just decided to book it nobody would be able to stop him. He's faster than everybody except Kakashi and if he makes it to Orochimaru there's nothing they can do
The Squad as it was could have brought him back if you watch the Naruto V Sasuke final clash Naruto chose to scratch Sasuke’s Headband instead of Slamming him in the Chest with the Rasengan if Sasuke took that Rasengan he would have either been Killed or knocked out even worse then Naruto giving Kakashi enough time to grab them both in the end
I feel like just adding Shino to the mission would have make a lot of difference
Oh absolutely dudes bugs could've easily tracked Sasuke down also I think Shino and Kidomaru would've been an interesting match up due to bug connection he actually would've done better then Neji in that situation since shino can attack better from a distance
Also he wouldn’t cry about not being there
Shino and Lee probably would have teamed up on Kimimaru not Shino's fault but i dont think that would change anything Garra would just save both of them
@@renegadelegacy8457 true Kimimaro was way too OP at this point in the series that literally his illness was needed to kill him off
Sasuke would have been home for dinner
Shino being away at the time of Sasuke Retrieval is the same reason Team Gai was away during Pains invasion lol
Even if guy was there his impact wouldn’t be that much. Pain still does all mighty push
@@nkc4530 I was talking about ten ten
Team gai would destroy the 6 pains
@@papipepino. no one escapes all mighty push
@@nkc4530 gais and maybe Lee’s speed
Orochimaru dying in this timeline definitely changes the war arc
Facts. Not only would the taka not be formed but the hokages wouldn’t be reanimated.
@@nsslaughter805 not necessarily. If Kabuto still becomes the snake sage it kind of plays out the same. He would have anko and Sasuke would release him from his sage Jutsu curse seal. I think the hokage still come back anyway. I know that juugo got the flesh from Kabuto but because he asked suigestu to do it, just serves to show he could have done it on his own.
What are you talking about? Orochimaru is alive while his seals are intact.
@@alexzero3736 Without orochimaru that means the first 4 hokage won't be revived. So a lot would go wrong really quickly
@@Matt-ud9op still Orochimaru could ressurect himself using Anko
Tsunade failing to send a jounin was a huge oversight given what was at stake (Orochimaru getting the Sharingan)
She didnt fail. There was no one available
@@marisamendes6894 She could have done it and be back in a minute and it simply isn't possible that there were no more ninja loyal to the leaf in the village at the time.
@@jonboulet1614 They were still rebuilding and recovering from the sand invasion lead by Orochimaru during the konoha crush arc
@@zelprimo Repairs can afford a half a day's worth of delays to keep Orochimaru from getting the Sharingan which would skyrocket his threat level especially long term.
@@jonboulet1614 Kakashi trailed behind
I feel like the extra time Sasuke would have spent with the leaf instead of a orochimaru would make his reaction to itachi‘s truth a little different. He’d be less coldhearted and more rational in my opinion. I’d think that he would be more focused on killing the village elders specifically instead of the leaf village.
Except Obito would still have to be there which means the idea that uchiha need hatred to get stronger would be reinforced in sasukes head regardless meaning he would still find himself hating more people.
people forget before Sasuke learnt the truth he had been quite sain not killing people he fought like purposly leaving them alive as all he wanted to do was kill itachi but when he learnt the truth he went off the deepend honestly the result should be the same here as sauske would have a further connection to the leaf and would feel he has been lied to all his life
Shino wasn’t even on a mission at the time, kiba was just being petty lmao
He was
So basically the mission’s failure was his fault.
what u talkin bout? Shino was on a mission with his dad
@@justyouraveragegamer8733 No. Shino later complains that he wasn't taken with them. This means he was most likely there (or that Kishi forgot about Shino being busy)
@@orianefaton1885 it doesn't mean that at all, he missed out on maybe the most important event they had faced at that point, regretting missing out on that is pretty normal
Lol if everyone were to gather, the mission would be easy peasy. They would just outnumber the 4th sound ninja, furthermore since the sand ninja would also join them, it would be even easier to obtain sasuke.
Shino was all they needed he was easily the best member to have in that mission also let’s not forget choji and neji 1v1 their opponents so with the whole squad would of body them easily
True Shino easily tracked Sasuke once before while he was chasing Gaara, being there to fight Kankuro even through he was behind Naruto, Sakura and Shikamaru when he noticed them leaving the Arena.
I wouldn’t say they’d get bodied, but definitely have a harder time and it’d all depend on which members Shikamaru decided to leave behind. But yeah Shinso was not doubt the strongest member of the Konoha 11 at the time, he was just a monster, and Shikamaru would know to leave him til the end.
He'll make huge difference against sakon and kimimaru for sure, while kimimaru is waay stronger than shino, he's also sick and shino being shino would exploit that, and i don't think kimimaru can do much to prevent that
Shino would've been such a huge help since his bugs take Chakra and the sound four stated it takes a great deal of Chakra to maintain the second state
I'm so happy to see the Shino love in the comments section. He would auto tilt the scales MASSIVELY in the Genins favor by himself. Shino mightve been shafted in the story, but not here 😄
I think shinos bugs eating chakra and tracking is way more impressive what some people think
I don’t get how Choji could beat Jirobo in the series and come out alive, yet die if he has help from Hinata.
Tsunade saved him
@@davidlhardin3 Are you saying that Tsunade saved Choji in the original battle? I remember Choji using his butterfly technique to win.
@@PsychologyStud he used the pill to enter his butterfly form. The pills kills you. Choji was dying but tsunade was able to reverse the effects and save his life after the fight.
@@davidlhardin3 ooo okay. Either I forgot that or didn’t know. Thanks!
@@davidlhardin3 but this wouldn't change that since the same factors would play out that bring choji back to be saved and I'm sure choji would be brought back to tsunade
I don’t really think this plan makes a lot of sense division and results wise.
Why would Shikamaru leave Hinata behind instead of Tenten when Tenten isn’t really used for anything later on? It seems like a better plan would be leaving behind Tenten with Choji, allowing her to pressure Jirobo from a distance and allowing Choji to secure the kill without using the third pill. This would leave Choji weakened, but then Tenten would advance and catch up with the rest of the group, requesting that Sakura go back to heal Choji.
Having Hinata be with Neji from the start would be the best choice, as Neji and Hinata would be able to cover each other for the entire battle. This would also be a good opportunity for Tenten to help- being a long range fighter, or for the Hyuga to first use their Air Palm.
This leaves Sakura and Choji furthest behind, with Tenten and the two Hyuga trailing the rest of the team.
Kiba can then hold his own until either the Hyuga or Kankuro arrive. Tenten should advance here. Sakura and Choji coming behind still. This would be a pretty easy win once help shows.
Shikamaru and Ino would then stay behind to deal with Tayuya. They’ll secure the barrel temporarily and Kimimaro takes it back, splitting Naruto and Shino from the other two. Once Tenten arrives here (her long range is very useful is many battles), with Ino preventing any Genjutsu and Tenten setting up trap points and shade for Shadow Possession, they’ll win.
By this time, Sakura and Choji would have caught up with the two Hyuga, Kiba, Kankuro, and Temari (who probably would secure the killing blow on Tayuya), then joining with Ino and Shikamaru. This leaves the rest of the team shortly behind everyone else. Lee and Gaara are coming in from behind them.
Sasuke awakens and runs off. The others are all caught up so Naruto, Sakura, Shino, Neji, and Shikamaru follow after him while Temari, Kankuro, Kiba, Ino, and Hinata fight Kimimaro. Choji is on the sidelines resting. Lee arrives, not needing the Drunken Fist, then Gaara, Kimimaro should probably be defeated before he succumbs to his illness (probably allowing him to survive for later use). They all then advance.
While the others are catching up, Naruto, Neji, and Shino clash with Sasuke. Due Sasuke’s speed as well as the fight switching between land and water constantly, Shikamaru can’t land his Shadow Possession. Sakura is tired of being on the sidelines, and finally jumps in, attempting to reason with Sasuke with Naruto and contributing diversions for Shikamaru to land his SP. This finally works, and Sasuke is stopped, before going Stage 2 and overpowering it. Luckily, the others finally catch up, and they are able to overpower Sasuke- barely. Kakashi finally arrives and carries Sasuke back with the others.
After reasoning with Sasuke for quite some time, Team 7 finally convinces Sasuke to stay, under the condition that Sasuke learns to control his Curse Mark better from Kakashi and Anko. Sakura finally gains her resolve and no longer waits on the sidelines, learning better healing and taijutsu from Tsunade- along with improving her Genjutsu and chakra control from Kurenai. Naruto leaves with Jiraiya for a few years.
Observing Sasuke’s improvement over time, Obito instigates Sasuke and Itachi’s final confrontation. After Sasuke wins and learns the truth- he’d actually want to stay, but of course be very antagonistic against village rules and lose some of his Will of Fire. He’d clash with Team 7 over this before deciding to kill Danzo and the elders in secret. Sasuke succeeds, but is found out by Danzo alerting the Anbu in his dying breath, forcing Sasuke to go on the run.
I know this was a LOT, but I think such a huge change would have huge consequences. Shikamaru is smart and would have plans to use his team effectively for the best results. Sasuke reconciling with Team 7 would keep Sasuke attached to the village. His team is his family 100% now. So I don’t think he’d go completely insane like before, and would instead serve as a sort of lone wolf anti-hero. He may seek out Orochimaru at this time, only for more power to make sure he can prevent another Uchiha massacre by becoming his version of Hokage we see him talk about at the end of Part II. Obito may even throw a wrench in these plans…
"having Hinata be with Neji from the start would be the best choice, as they can cover each other for the entire battle"
But Shikamaru doesn't know the battle is gonna happen. He didn't know the sound 4 would get the barrel back and then one of them would try to hold them off. He also doesn't even know what the enemies powers are, and even if he did, doesn't know who would stay behind to fight the genin. On top of that, he doesn't know the Byakugan has a Blindspot (it's a well guarded secret), and that Neji and Hinata would have to cover each other anyway. Plus, it was NEJI who realized he had to stay and fight kidomaru, because only he had the ability to cut his threads. Shikamaru wouldn't have been able to figure that out cuz he doesn't know the specifics of the gentle fist technique.
From Shikamaru's perspective, Neji and Hinata are both close range fighters that can can shut people's chakra points down and have long range have 360 vision, the only difference is Hinata is weaker. Jirobo is also a close range fighter, so their jutsu would be effective against him. It would make sense to leave Hinata.
So unfortunately your story falls apart here. Though I don't think it was a perfect analysis either
@@OwenCTynes True, the blind spot is a secret, however it’d surely make sense that against strong opponents Neji or Hinata would make the suggestion to stay together.
you know sakura is useless when she doesn't even have a skill to take into account or contribute to sasuke's retrieval
@@lapplandkun9273 she’s literally keeping people alive
“haha sakura useless” jesus christ naruto fans are annoying
@@TylerTheLoser_ she didn't learn medical ninjutsu until after sasuke's departure. Do your research.
Honestly the entire sasuke retrieval arc would have given shino the absolute advantage. His bugs would be EVERYWHERE. The scene where they finally find sasuke? He would have had all DAY to prepare insects. Guess what its biblical plague day bitches.
Please do more like this.
Do what if Akatsuki duos were sent to capture Killer Bee instead of Taka next !
Imagine how good of a pair gaara and shikamaru would make. Gaara could just put sand in the sky to give shikamaru as much range and speed as he needs.
OP he just has a whole cloud worth of shadows
Don't discount Hinata's abilities. She has speed feats from the Chunin Exams. Her hand to hand combat speed was on par with Neji for a while and that's a big deal. If she gets close enough to land a gentle fist on Jirobo, she will land it. His hand movement speed is no where near as fast as a Hyuga's. The Hyuga Clan specifically train their whole life in hand to hand combat and Hinata also possesses a pair of Byakugan. She can see Jirobo's Chakra Network. Again, close quarters against a Hyuga should be a loss for anyone because their hand speed is second to none.
Madara vs Neji hand to hand
@@robtheservantof6257 he said should be not will be pfft.
@@robtheservantof6257 stop don’t be that guy lmao
On par with Neji? She doesnt hit him a single time, getting ALL of her hits parried, and then nearly dies. Takes so much more speed and precession to block EVERY one of her attacks. Even at 75% his speed shed have been able to tag him at least a few times, she was no where near on par with Neji at this time. He basically talked to her like she was dirt, which further solidifies this as her competing somewhat at his level wouldnt have warranted that kind of reaction I believe. Jirobo 100% 3 taps Hinata around that time if shes trying to 1v1 him aggressively
@@robtheservantof6257 You’re not that guy pal…
Shino was so fuckin broken in part 1 with his bugs that him alone would have turned things around.
Adding just Shino pretty much changes everything about the arc. Sasuke is tracked faster, all opponents pretty much get slapped by his parasitic insects or at least zoned out. Kimmimaru gets mind swapped and then instantly sand coffined by Gaara whilst he isnt in control of his mind therefore not able to amp his bones at that moment. It honestly just depends on who you allocate to which fight, but the Sound 4 get washed fairly quickly, Kimmimaru then gets ran up on by at least 4 of the 12 and gets slapped around by hax. They catch up to Sasuke and Lee goes 5th gate and waxes his cheeks causing him to further progress his curse mark and go into v2, he then bodies Lee, Naruto sees this and more than likely either goes 1 OR possibly even 2 tails due to seeing one of his classmates almost dying, no matter how you look at it Sasuke gets overwhelmed and brought back to the village.
Lee wouldn't be able to use his gates yet, but Drunk mode's speed and reflexes can't be read, so a combinatiom of him and Naruto would stop Sasuke.
CM2 Sasuke is NOT stronger than 5th Gate Lee are you kidding?
@@coop7008 Indeed, Sasuke would probably to go straight into his Bat form to make Lee back off, that is, if he can considering that was the first time he was evolving his Curse
Have to go*
@@coop7008 Lmao?? Yes he is. He is quite literally hard stated to be 1) The strongest Genin in the leaf. 2) The strongest opponent Gaara has ever faced, despite fighting Lee lmaooo. Both are databook statements, idk why you thought Lee would be stronger than one of the 2 main characters
Hinata and Neji vs Kidomaru is literally a fight I would love to see
If the genin went it would have been a different story. They would most definitely bring him home.
So the sound 4 is getting jumped mad hard here
Shino and Neji vs kidomaru would be an amazing fight
While Kiba and Hinata vs Sakon & Ukon would be a fair fight
As for Tenten.... I dunno. Her screentime is so low that I couldn't fathom which fight she would be good in. Definitely not against Kimimaro though, as she'd just be a burden and her explosions + ninja tools wouldn't do anything to someone who could resist Gaara's Sabaku Soutaisou.
Ino would be good against Tayuya. That's for sure.
@@King_of_Antisemites Agreed but I feel like if kiba could rip them both into their respected bodies having an extra member would mean that they can't do the rashamon barrier which leaves the other one open
@@King_of_Antisemites Ino AND Sakura VS Tayuya. Remember that Tayuya used Genjustu and Sakura is great at that. She could cancel Tayuya's Genjustus and let Ino do the rest, as Ino was stronger then.
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Shino is probably the most underrated and miss used character of the series.
I hate how they made him look so corny in Boruto. I don’t mind him being a teacher at the academy, but at least make him a strong silent type of teacher, and have him keep his look from the last few episodes of Shippuden
@@SirAuron777 he would honestly be a great Aizawa type of teacher doesn't look like it but at the end of the day cares for their students
When I was younger I used to think that having Lee in the Squad initially would've made such a huge difference. As much of a Lee fan as I am, I don't think he'd do much except destroy Jirobo and that's it. He'd probably catch up too but being hot off thr surgery and being limited to only thr 1st gate would be the huge issue
I agree with what @wolfhead said in response to @Psychology Stud 's comment. Hinata would bring a dying Choji to the gates of the Leaf Village to be picked up by the guards and taken to Tsunade who would heal him as she did in the original, there's no reason why Choji would die now and not in the original now that he has Hinata's help. Then Hinata should rejoin the mission and arrive half way through Neji's battle with Kimimaro to end the fight without Neji being hurt.
If Hinata and Ino were on the mission as well it'd be an insane difference, Ino could literally just no diff a Sound Five Member and leave them open to being killed by someone else.
Hinata was a Byakugan User and could have easily been a help with tracking them down, Shino would have been a massive help as well
“At this point Neji will come in”
And get absolutely smacked.
Bro, choji wouldn't die. He didn't die in the OG so wtf would he die with help?
He "died" in the original as well. Those pills killed him. Tsunade arrived and saved him later.
@@pablozanoto5801 died and near death are 2 separate things.
The video maker didn't like choji still survived so he made him die here
@@namoma4922 kinda late to the party, but I appreciate the input.
2:30 what kinda logic is that 😭😭choji beats him in the original timeline by himself and survives but with help he dies?? Make that make sense please
Choji "died" in the original as well. Those pills killed him. Tsunade arrived and saved him later.
@@pablozanoto5801 No. He was "dying". Tsunade stopped him from dying by reversing the effects. Him receiving help means that Choji would not have to be forced into using the pills
2:00 *Her abilities cannot be made light of, and it remains to be seen how she will develop from here.*
I nearly spit out my smoothie from that line from the databook
What happened with the fight with the flute girl on the sound four
He sugested Ino risking her life by making her killed herself (which I don't think is a really good idea. I doubt Ino has the level of skill of undoing the justu just second prior to Tayuya being beheaded or whatever they try. Would work better to have her standing still, let Shikamaru Shadow possess her and then kill her while she can't move. I am sure Tenten have a weapon or two that can make for a swift decapitation (oh, wait, I think she was on the Kiba team... Nevermind that then)
i think this could go down a bit differently. (aka never split the party)
Shikamaru wants to retrieve Sasuke. Failing that he wants to interrogate these Sound Nin to gain info on their evac point, base of operations, etc. If he can get that he gets a second chance at retrieving Sasuke and/or can provide the Village with info to deal with Oro.
The Sound Nin have left a member behind. It's 10 against 1. Ino has access to mind reading powers. If she can read his mind Shikamaru gets access to all that information he wanted.
Kiba is very likely how the group is tracking the Sound Nin. If Kiba can't find them then odds they won't be able to locate them, especially after losing time due to the earth jutsu.
Additionally Shikamaru does not know if additional Sound Nin will show up to assist the Sound 4, if the team is running into an ambush through a feinted retreat, etc.
With this in mind, and given the fact that Shikamaru doesn't like sacrificing pieces even in pretend bouts like Shogi, Shikamaru decides to have Naruto create a large number of clones, have those clones give chance, and have everyone else rush down the left behind Sound Nin with the goal of disabling said Sound Nin if possible.
Naruto's clones will be able to alert the rest of the team on where the Sound Nin are, what the Sound Nin are up to, etc. by popping and having all that info transferred into Naruto's head. Since they are only clones there is no chance that a team member is killed.
Neji and Hinata both possess a style of Taijutsu built specifically to disable. Neji's skill with Taijutsu is on par with a Jonin (based on Kakashi's words). Odds are, with just these two, he would be able to disable this guy.
However to further add that he has Shino, who's bugs can eat this guy's chakra, Ino, who can mind control if she can get a clear shot, and himself, who can disable him with his shadow.
Add Naruto to that and it's a wrap.
So they disable him, have Ino break into mind, have his body and Ino's body carried by another pair of Naruto clones, and begin chasing down these Nin again. Because of all the NIn involved the fight likely ended quickly.
Once Ino's done interrogating this guy they kill him. Once that's done they have Naruto send clones of himself back to the Hidden Leaf with the info they uncovered. Now, even if they fail, and potentially get killed, Naruto's clones will be able to provide the rest of the Village with info.
Rise and repeat, more or less, with the rest of Sound Nin.
nice work dude!!
Am I the only ones which wishes we actually got this version. Would’ve been nice to have much more time to build naruto and sasuke’s bond and you could always keep a solid rivalry
I'm under the impression that when Naruto is away with Jiraiya, Sasuke might be an Anbu and be trained by them during the time skip. It allows Sasuke to get the training he needs, and experience with lack of identity. Sasuke would be MIA during the time skip only appearing for the Chunin exams. He would be like Neji, a Jounin after the time skip but no one would know about his whereabouts before then.
I don't know about the Anbu, that just gives Danzo more interactions with him doesn't it?
@@15jewjew yes, which could lead to the Yamato and Team 7 looking for Orochimaru's hide outs. It would be be really cool since i expect Sasuke go through the normal timeline after killing Itachi and then Sasuke would know Danzo.
No. Most Anbu members died to a single kunai.
It's a joke. Your idea is great.
I think if only Shino and Sakura had gone along with the others, Sasuke would be back. However, to make Sakura more useful, let's suppose that Kakashi paid attention to her and did some deep Genjustu training with her.
Shino is so strong and smart that if he stayed in any fight, opponents would easily fall.
Sakura, on the other hand, could either stay with/replace Shikamaru in the battle against Tayuya, because the two girls are Genjustu users, or go with Naruto after Kimimaro.
Naruto would perhaps be safer with Sakura and the Genjustus around, as she could lock the sound ninja into an illusion, opening up several loopholes for Naruto to do the heavy lifting.
Sasuke would eventually escape the barrel and go after Orochimaru, however Naruto couldn't leave Sakura alone to face Kimimaro or to rescue Sasuke, as the two Team 7 ninjas know that Sakura isn't such a thing. So either Lee or Shino would arrive and assist, allowing Naruto to go after Sasuke.
Sakura would go along with Naruto or help Lee/Shino, unless the two boys arrived together, then she would go after her beloved.
When Team 7 reunited, Naruto would fight Sasuke, but perhaps Sakura would be able to use Genjustu/Emotional and Mental Destabilizing Speech to bring Sasuke back to the good side.
If not, after all the rivals' battle, Sakura and probably Gaara who should have already arrived, would stop the exhausted Uchiha and the mission would be successful.
That would be better also shinos enough
@@whenanimmovableforcemeetsa6053 I think so too, but this would be the perfect opportunity to show that Sakura knows how to do something too. But really, if Shino had gone with the others, Sasuke would be back in Classic.
@@pablozanoto5801 yeah
Mental Destabilizing Speech
that's not even a skill and you know it. Plus, Sasuke has the sharingan, which means any genjusu sakura would likely attempt would be useless
Though, Sasuke also stated that Sakura is better at genjustu than him (and let's all face it. Do Sasuke give 'compliment' to someone who isn't having said skill ?)
But, yeah, one of the reason Sakura is even so weak in Classic Naruto is because Kakashi do not even train her. We see him training Sasuke, but for example, he gives Naruto's training to someone else. He only properly trained one student at the time (plus, if the guy post timeskip is surprised by Sakura's strength, something tell me he didn't train with her at all, in three years ! During which she was his ONLY student avaible)
Orochimaru would just show up smack the genie and take Sasuke
No he wouldn't
Orochimaru was dying at the time right?
@@15jewjew true
@@15jewjewsasuke took too long so he had to steal another body out of desperation
Why did Choji die when he didn’t in the series
Kiba and Hinata vs Sakon & Ukon would be a fair fight.
As for Tenten.... I dunno. Her screentime is so low that I couldn't fathom which fight she would be good in. Definitely not against Kimimaro though, as she'd just be a burden since Kimimaro would just deflect her tools when she threw those at him (that's the only technique she knows: hurling ninja tools at her opponent) and her explosions + ninja tools wouldn't do anything to someone who could resist Gaara's Sabaku Soutaisou.
Ino would be good against Tayuya. That's for sure.
As for Shino, he'd be good against Kidoumaru together with Neji.
But in the end, they would still take time to reach Naruto & Sasuke. And Sasuke could still make his way to Orochimaru. The end of N vs S' fight wasn't that long from the end of the others' fights in the canon after all, otherwise the others (like Neji & Chouji) wouldn't be saved from death. Adding a few Genins would cut the time they need to win, but only by a half. By that time, Naruto & Sasuke would be near the end of their fight, the beginning of when Naruto's at KCM0.1. and Sasuke's at Curse Mark Lv 2.
And this is already me taking consideration about Gaara's team. Why? Because with the other Genins involved, Temari and Kankuro would have no reason to go to the other Genins location, and they would end up with Gaara & Lee against Kimimaro. But with Kimimaro's power, them being there would actually mean nothing, as they would just be like Lee; they wouldn't be able to do anything at all against Kimimaro, and he wouldn't let them pass to help Naruto, at least for a while until he died due to his disease.
By the time all of them arrive at the Final Valley, they wouldn't be able to do anything to help Naruto, as both Naruto & Sasuke's fight at that time was already way above their levels, even combined. Remember, even Kakashi was shocked at their power level and the fact that even he could feel it despite the distance he had with them even though he isn't a sensory type Ninja.
In conclusion, adding all of the Genins in the mission would probably change the ending, but not about Sasuke. The mission would still be a failure, but with less Genin on critical condition.
Tenten with shikamaru or/and ino's help can most likely defeat tayuya. Well to be honest shikamaru more though
It doesn't really matter if no one can intervene in the Naruto vs Sasuke fight. Sasuke will simply be out of chakra once he is done with Naruto, and anyone who is there on time will be able to knock him out, as he will be too weak to resist
@@namoma4922 by the time they're trying to intervene with N vs S' final Rasengan vs Chidori, those Genins would just be obliterated by being there.
I would have still had the mission fail, but had more of a battle involving Kimimaro-specifically in my version Kimimaro does not just die of a mystery illness, and instead the Leaf ninja have to use teamwork (specifically I would have it be Rock Lee, HINATA, and TENTEN (and later Gaara) vs Kimimaro-this also serves as early Kaguya foreshadowing in that by having a Byakugan user fight against a Shikotsumyaku user, part of Kaguya Otsutsuki’s DNA is reunited by fate). Also, I would have made it so we get an early glimpse of the Yamanaka mind link by having Ino use it, but her version is not fully developed and fails due to the Sound 4 using clever tactics to force the Retrieval Team to split up (as well as Tayuya infiltrating her mind link with genjutsu and causing everyone to experience nightmarish hallucinations-forcing Ino to shut it down), while at the same time Shino tries to use his bugs to assist, but winds up overextending himself trying to support Neji (we can also include mention of past hatred between the Aburame Clan and Kidomaru’s clan, given the insect vs spider theme), Kiba, AND Shikamaru-with Sakon and Ukon using their Kekkei Genkai to infiltrate their cells into Shino’s bugs and destroy them. Basically the only person who doesn’t go on the mission is Sakura, given that due to her shame over what had happened the previous night, she feels that she would be nothing but a liability for her teammates, even though Naruto wants her to come on the mission (basically Sakura is filled with self-loathing after that night and feels that it is her fault-and both Hinata and Ino mercilessly berate her the following morning (low-key justifiably given how insensitive Sakura was when she tried to convince Sasuke to stay)).
The sasuke retreival arc was such a close win for the team, that literally anyone would have made the arc a success.
Neji and Hinata against Kidomaru would've been an awesome fight to see
We wouldn't have the legendary 1v1 fights that we know and love.
At the end sasuke if he has stayed in the leaf how does his potential growth compare to that of what he was under Orochimaru? I know yiubdiandthet eere close but he could get cross trained in more genjutsu but Kurenai potentially. I knows she’s got 0 feats but there’s an angle there I’m sure plus the clones. Maybe kakashi actuslyl gets much stringers as well since he also has a sharingan. I feel like they almost get a zen Kai boost from sharingan amp if that makes sense. Id wager he could possibly high diff the original timeline Sasuke. Maybe you could do a caveat video on that. This one is awesome. Keep up the great work bro!
Yes! They didnt try hard enough
Awesome 👍👍.
Lol forget the genin, I think they forgot the ANBU existed during this entire arc, even off duty jonin LOL. Oh yeah let's only send our genin NINE TAILS JINCHURIKI and a genin who possess the BYAKUGAN to possibly fall into the hands of Orochimaru 😂😂😂
They didn't forget. They were on mission because the sand pretty much inspired everyone to test the land of fire's border
You can however argue that Jiraya could have been there, and if he is, it's a stomp, no questions asked
Um no this would have been a huge change especially for sasuke. No curse mark mastery, no chidori techniques, no immunity to poison, no elixers/medicines to make him stronger over time NO KIRIN, no training with 100 ninjas to be "heartless", no hebi/taka,would have lost to deidara, itachi would have died not fighting him feeling he wasnt ready. side note, naruto would not have the motivation to learn wind style and ultimately would have been captured in the pain arc
The Drugs was a theory however I find it doubtful it was true I think they just underestimated Sasuke's Growth he went from Far below Weighted Lee to On par or above Weightless Lee in a Month
All of his Original Chidori variants would be upgraded to Raikiri Variants including Kirin which he would learn much earlier(Side note Kakashi would have help invent all of these and learned them himself)
Better Sharingan Mastery(Actually Training with a Sharingan user is much better then Training with someone who only knows of the sharingan's abilities)
A better Variety of Jutsu(lightning style shadow clones, Lightning Cable, Lightning Hound)
Mastery over other elements(Water/Earth)
Sasuke also would be way more tactically Minded never going into a fight without a plan and even if he does he can think of one quickly
Better Genjutsu
He would still have his CM2 and still train with it maybe Kakashi brings Anko in to help with that(both Anko & Sasuke have the Same Curse Mark)
He would be a Jonin and go on Many missions meaning he likely has more experience
He never used drugs. He mocked Orochimaru for it. So same stats
He would still have chidori techniques and kirin, he is training with Kakashi the Litteral creator of chidori, and a lighting specialist himself
No snake and poison immunity though. But the leafs, hell Kakashi alone have plenty of other jitsu he can learn
The training with the 100 ninja is cool but he can do that in konoha, we littérally don't know how strong they were, and missions are good training, just see the land of waves
Sasuke created Kirin himself same with the chidori variations
Well tbh you gotta remember the time they had. Chuunin and Jonin were on missions and the leaf had to make sure other places don't attack.
Then Shika had to find a team before they got past the border with Sasuke
I'm sure they would have all still had their one on ones, and then had a numbers advantage against Sasuke, until Kimimaro basically reduced it to just Naruto, only for Lee to save him.
Orochimaru sends Kabuto or goes Himself
Lol
If Ino was in the Sasuke Retrieval Arc mission, then the team would have succeeded because everyone knows that Sauske will slam Ino against a table and start breeding her for fun
We need a part 2 to see what would happen on the next in the storyline
I don’t think Choji would die if he had Hinata with him. Hinata’s gentle fist would make more of a difference than the video says. Even with the curse mark activated, I think hinata would be able to keep up in hand to hand combat and shut down more chakra points.
I don't think she can keep up once the curse mark goes in. However there's no actual evidence the curse mark would act like Kyubi chakra and override the tenketsu blocking. If it doesn't jirobo is done for because he will be unable to leave his base
If it does it will still be up to chojii to be the main tank. However there's two things that can happen
-Either Hinata cannot intervene and choji is on the verge of death. Once choji win, she carries him to the village more quickly but because of this she probably cannot go help the others, unless choji begs her to prioritize the mission
- choji in the orange pill cannot keep up with curse mark 2, but can survive long enough for Hinata to get new hits in, which will again paralysé jirobo, and let the duo claim a close victory. Choji will no longer be able to fight, but his life won't be in danger, so Hinata can still continue the mission without worries
I know it's gonna be a great video
i haven't seen the video yet but looking at how sasuke was after the fight with naruto i thing even ten ten would've been enogh
Tenten did join in an alternate version where it happened in the Shippuden times.
Nice thorough hypothesis
Naruto and Shino are kind of all you need, maybe Choji or Neji. Defintely the top 4 genin.
Why didn’t she send high ranking ninja tho??
She says all of them were on other missions.
You would think the leaf could at least spare a jonin to help but nope plot
Keep in mind a lot of them died an arc prior😭and the village was on high alert
@@TheRealEmoney539 true I forgot the random jonin aren't even main character genin lvl anyways lol
Obito wouldn’t let sasuke go back to the leaf after telling him the truth
If all of them would have been sent I could see hinata either staying back and helping choji or shikamaru. Cutting off jirbo’s chakra could help choji end the fight quicker. Her byakugan along side shikamaru’s tactian skills and shadow possession would aid him enormously
Tenten could aid neji as he needs someone to aid him against the numbers advantage kidomaru has.
Ino could assist shikamaru
Shino could help kiba, neji shikamaru or choji. Man’s kit is multipurpose and effective against all the sound ninja save kimimaru
Sakura at this point has nothing in her kit that would help anyone. She could go with Naruto and use some emotional shit to help sasuke turn back them but that’s about it
IMO I feel they needed one more like a +1 of the girls (healer but I don’t remember much healers at this point , intel such as Ino or Kakashis dogs w Kiba, recon-trap setting like Hinata or Tenten) cuz although Rock Lee came through on the Kimimaru fight, if it wasn’t for that things COULD have looked downright worse cuz Naruto WAS NOT on fighting par to him. The very elite sound 4 vs 5 [6] just finishing chunin exams PLUS Gaara came through after LEE HIMSELF was struggling. It nearly costed the others their lives and I really thought my boy Neji and esp Choji lost their lives after using such an extent of power.
Sounds like how the Japanese only 2nd DS Naruto RPJ played out. (For the main chunk of the video.)
I think gentle fist is essentially a counter to sakon and ukon. Even with the relatively weaker Hinata, as long as her teammates help her gets hit in, she will pretty much disable them. Or she will once they try to hijack her body
I agree that Hinata probably can't help against jirobo because sticking to close combat will get her killed
Surprised she would do well with kidomaru though, since his attacks are fast ans she lackz neji reflexes, but i can accept family/will of fire amp
Doesn't really matter much though
Tenten and shikamaru are probably enough for tayuya, shikamaru lacked the power to finish tayuya off but littérally anyone would do
Considering the massive leap Sasuke made in 3 month with Kakashi help i feel like his stats and lightning release prowess would stay the same with him. However he would not use the curse mark anymore, or only in extreme cases, and no snake summons which are a drawback. But to be fair the leafs have good enough jutsus as replacement
I feel like hinata might be in over her head against kidmaru and there is a big chance she could endanger neji since he needs to protect the main branch.... I don t see hinata being able to exert chalkra from all points of her body yet so she could get clapped or put in a bad position early
Notice that Sakuras icon is crying.
I mean, between her emotional state already and the fact that during that time, Sakura is basically useless. (I love her, but I can't argue with someone about that) I wouldn't be surprise if she has momoent where she is crying through the mission.
I feel like Shino's influence is being really understated here, every fight with him is just a waiting game because his bugs eat chakra. If any of the fights dragged on long enough, they'd win.
I also don't think Tsunade would see the need to send team Gaara if ALL the genin went. I'd love to see an analysis of how you think they'd do with no back up
I am not sure. She could still be worried. She originally wanted to send Jonins but none were avaible. (and the Sand siblings already has barely any screentime, do not take even more away from them, please)
No the sand ninja are essentially free here because of what they did last arc, and it's better to just do too much than not enough
At that point it couldn't hurt, this IS Orochimaru we're dealing with. The guy that managed to reck my village, manipulate another, and kill the Third Hokage. Granted he lost his arms and is weakened, but he has some pretty powerful henchmen. And I just sent 10 genin and one newly minted chunin (all barely a year or two out of the academy) after sasuke, but considering my right hand woman's team got attacked and two Jounin nearly dead, yeah I probably should send more backup. My forces are spread pretty thin, but I wouldn't be willing to risk the guy who made it pretty freaking clear he is going to destroy my village getting the fucking Sharingan, so yeah you best believe I'm taking those three sand ninja for free. Particularly the one with the Sand's tailed Beast sealed inside him, who managed to go toe to toe with Naruto (who in turn held his own against Orochimaru and Kabuto).
Truly the only remaining one that would of made a difference was Shino. Hinata definitely would of helped though chijo fight but I don’t think she changes the overall outcome. But shino definitely added in more than likely sasuke is saved.
This is just “what if shikamaru jumped niggas”
Why does choji die here but not in the original?
Hey stone village hear about the situation
Lighting village make there case to establish a capture mission on sauske
But hey let use genin under a fresh chunnin is right
But with the help of training under kakashi help sasuke kill itachi would it be enough I mean itachi almost killed him with training under one of the legendary sanin would he improve that much with kakashi ?
What if Shino was given most Tentens and Kiba's screen time?
Coulda just named the video “what if Shino went too”
I don’t think this changes anything, Sasuke can casually smack Shino and Neji at this point and the others who join aren’t that powerful. Gaara never joined in canon so I doubt he’d come here. Sasuke isn’t outmatched here as he’s significantly faster then everyone. He has the 3 tomoe and the curse mark 2 which makes him able to react to almost everyone there. He can blitz pretty much everyone and he has no quarrels with murdering any of them on sight. So I don’t see why he lost.
It took everything Sasuke had to beat Naruto alone and you think the result would be the same if he had to fight 13 more ninja? Come on bruh…
@@coop7008 But Naruto using his Kyūbi is significantly stronger then everyone there, as long as Naruto doesn’t activate the Kyūbi then CM2 Sasuke can stomp everyone.
@@coop7008 He’d likely K.O. Neji and Shino before the others arrive. Gaara and the others never joined in canon so I doubt they’d come here.
@@katusakirocks5630 Sasuke was strong but he wasn’t that strong my guy. You’re heavily overestimating him.
@@katusakirocks5630 You’re bugging if you think Sasuke would just stomp Neji AND Shino at this point, the way you’re describing him makes him seem way stronger than he is.
I don't think Orochimaru would attack the leaf alone I believe he would use team Taka to potentially help him, which would greatly pressure the leaf, but the leaf still wins because of Guy, but there's also a chance that Danzo might do some shady stuff to help Orochimaru like using the foundation, for his own selfish pursuit of power for becoming hokage.
I believe the truth about Itachi wouldn't have had the same effect if Sasuke never left with Orochimaru. His mind was further contorted to become colder once he was in Orochimaru's company 24/7. Him changing his mind about going to Orochimaru would imply a genuine change in his attitude. While I still think he'd be upset with the Leaf, I'm not so sure he'd be inclined to destroy the village in it's entirety when he's spent his entire life up to adulthood there creating even stronger bonds...
2:30 choji won 1v1 and survived we ad Hinata now he dies wtf
He "died" in the original as well. Those pills killed him. Then Tsunade arrived and healed him.
Sasuke wouldn’t have continued on his path to kill Naruto. He defiantly would’ve just fled lol. Good what if otherwise there’s absolutely no way that he was gonna be that blood lusted number 1 considering he never finished Naruto in the normal route. Secondly Sasuke prioritized finding the man who could help him get stronger that came way before his petty issues with the leaf.
It doesn't matter if he tries to flee, with the whole squad being there after him he is not leaving
Kakashi will eventually catch up too and it will be a wrap.
Even if you say they get to the land of sound, Kabuto and Sasuke can't beat the whole squad all by themselves, mainly because of one tailed Naruto who is op. With Kakashi it's out of question
The only way for Sasuke fleeing to still end up in Orochimaru's hand is that
A) Sasuke somehow managed to evade the whole squad without rest to the land of sound
B) Orochimaru Is mostly healed and can fight
Then yeah i can see this being a massacre, but it stretches logic a lot
Best what if ever.
I think if you push cms2 Sasuke into a corner like that he starts killing the biggest threats that aren't naruto
So uhhhh who revives the Kage in the war arc?
The answer is yes, they could. But once orochimaru caught him, it would be over...
But if Kimimaru use his last attack everyone will die except for Gaara because he can fly and he can carry only one of them because he lost a lot of chakra.
if orochimaru dies who resurrects the 4 hokage??
Yeah the sound ninja four where about special joinin to Kage level threats ain't no way they gonna win this even with the other genin
With team work they were special joinin level it’s implied that if it was a one on one the joinin would have won
I doubt Sakura, Ino and Tenten would add much and no, I'm not being sexist. What did they they have to contribute? Sakura and Ino would basically be useless here since they weren't noteworthy much during part 1.
There is a reason why Shikimaru didn't include them in canon.
Did you forget Ino can literally possess a person body if given the chance ? And Tenten is a walking weapon store. It can always be useful in the eyes of a tactician I think. (Sakura would however be pretty much useless during the fight itself. Maybe more useful about helping giving first aid once the fighting is done)(which, could still serve as a motivation for her to be Tsunade's disciple, because she is done being useless when other needs her like that)
Would sasuke learn Kirin and would he still be as strong as he was against the Raikage. But even with the changes, he definitely would still get an EMS and I think lore wise it would’ve been a lot cooler had sasuke not left cuz nobody likes Sai.
It’s up in the air if he still learns kirin or not but he is probably weaker than he would be in canon since his hatred would be significantly lower.
I love Sai :-\
@@UFunnyLowe Weaker but smarter. (let's face it, he became dumber and dumber the more hateful he was)
Kirin is Sasuke own jutsu, is lightning based and is made to kill itachi.Unless being in the leaf makes him dumber there's no reason he would not have it
He would not have the snake summons, and wouldn't master, nor use the curse mark anymore though he still could in dire situation, but would refrain from it because it gives Oro power over him
I mean, if I'm being a 100 percent honest I think kimimaru would probably kill all the genin (except naruto), but he'd die before gaara's group got there, after that I think gaara and the gang could catch sasuke after he's on his last legs from fighting naruto.
I dunno. Naruto's clones had the use to at least let Shikamaru find out what the guy is capable of and coming up with plan. (same applies with the other that wouldn't fight with the blind spot of 'what can that guy do'. They got to see the shit go down)
wait why would choji die?
Why does Choji have to die :(
Because the Shinobi World doesn't give a fuck how old you are regardless and just gets you killed, it just raises the stakes scine not everyone can make it unfortunately its like having Guy not die during the War arc...
If Sasuke just decided to book it nobody would be able to stop him. He's faster than everybody except Kakashi and if he makes it to Orochimaru there's nothing they can do
Well I'd argue that gates Lee is faster but that's just impractical
Hinata literally hard counters and spanks Sakon and Ukon
Wait so Deidara wouldn’t die in this version?
The Squad as it was could have brought him back if you watch the Naruto V Sasuke final clash Naruto chose to scratch Sasuke’s Headband instead of Slamming him in the Chest with the Rasengan if Sasuke took that Rasengan he would have either been Killed or knocked out even worse then Naruto giving Kakashi enough time to grab them both in the end
Kinda silly that tsunade didn't send anbu