Why Do Retro Gamers Love CRT TVs? - Retro Bird
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- Let's talk about why gamers like to play retro video games on older CRT Tube Televisions. For those wondering, the CRT I have in this video is a Sony Trinitron Wega KV-27FS100
Why Retro Gamers Prefer / Choose CRT Televisions. CRT TVs!
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I just got a 36" Trinitron, will take a few days until I can feel my arms again to play on it.
I just got a 36in trinitron myself and I felt every one of those 250lbs
I got the trinitron KV-13FM12 for 10$ at goodwill it’s uncommon but thank the lord it’s only 26 LBS, it’s perfect for my desk.
I would honestly rather have a small one, like the commodore/philips monitors which to me looks great with pretty much any source.
Well, it's been over a year. Can you feel your arms yet?
@@organicio yeah, unfortunately, it stopped to work :(
A neighbor down the road put out on the road two CRT TVs. One 20" and the other easily twice the size. The bigger one had s video, component connection and so on. The little one had only one white, yellow, red input. I was wise enough to pick up the little one. I still had to convince my wife to let us keep it though. She was cool with it. It is now in my son's room connected to a Sega Genesis. He loves it. He is only five. This is the first time he was a tv like this. He likes the "curved" glass screen
The amazing resolution on crt tv is like going to the arcades, Even today most of the old retro games in arcades are still using crt tv. Modern led tv are great for modern games, but retro or even modern pixel games just looks better on old crt tv.
It does give a bit of an arcade feel. I get that.
I picked up a a 1989 20 inch Sony Trinitron on the road. Hasn't mod it yet. I put NES Contra and turning the "Hue" knob, the colors were glorious. Also, booting up Sony Playstation logo on this TV is some experience I realize maybe lost forever had I not taken the homeless TV.
the vaporwave factor is real with this one
It's so hard to capture the look of a CRT in a video. You did this masterfully!
Thank you! It's actually much better in my newer videos.
I walked down my street the other day and saw a 32" Trinitron mid 2000s era with a "Free Working" sign on it. I wanted to pick it up but I just don't have the space for something that big. I found a 22" Trinitron on a buy and sell website yesterday, going to pick it up tonight.
I love my Sony Trinitron! Damn heavy though. It is proudly displayed in the background of my videos.
Trinitrons FTW!
Just got my 32 inch Sony Trinitron home!😁👍
@@dad7275 Time to set that sucker up!
Ive got a 32" trinitron 2002 model. Love everything about it but......it has some geometry issues with the left corner. Looks like the top side had a stroke. Idk how to fix it so I'll be looking for another
My top 5 reasons for CRTs.
5.)Sometimes 2D games have special effects that are only noticeable on CRTs. Some games use a layer that gives a different perspective for the viewer.
Super Mario RPG has this in the in-game intro scene when the sword comes crashing down and the title of the game appears with moving stars.
A similar effect is used in StarOcean the Second Story when walking through a forest early on in the game. You can see the multiple layers giving more depth that can’t be seen on newer displays.
4.)3D games look cleaner on CRTs. The Pixelated edges on 3D models become easier on the eyes since they blend into the scanlines and if you use composite then artifacts like dithering becomes far less noticeable than they would on modern displays.
3.)2D Art looks phenomenal on CRTs to the point that its very difficult to go back to anything newer. The scanlines and slight blur that CRTs use to display games blend with the look of low res pixelated edges that a lot of 2D art from the 90s has. They give the image and text a much cleaner look that has not been replicated closely until the PS1 Digital and RetroTink5X released in recent years with their Scanline options.
And if you’re a fan of games that use Pre-rendered assets like Donkey Kong Country, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil and Super Mario RPG. You’ll benefit the most from this.
2.)Light guns work the best on these TVs. A solid reason of its own to have a CRT around.
1.)N64 games are actually Visually Playable. We all know about the N64’s use of Blur and Anti Aliasing hurts the game’s image on Hi-Def displays but on CRTs it looks very minimal. I would even say that those UltraHDMI and N64Digital mods may not be necessary (Maybe the RGB Upgrade could be useful if you plan to use it on a CRT.) unless you plan to still use the system on Newer TVs.
Yeah, #4 is my biggest reason for wanting a CRT. Playing ratchet and clank(PS2) looks beautiful on my SD TV. It looks just like the HD collection version on an HD TV.
Deep blacks, amazing motion handling, non existent input lag. AND lots of good exercise and deadlifting practice
Yeah, generally the advice is "set it and forget it" but to each their own haha!
With the current prices of weights, a crt is much cheaper even if it does not work. ;)
You're misinformed if you think a CRT doesn't have input lag (and so is the uploader). A CRT doesn't display a frame all at once, it takes a few milliseconds for a CRT to draw the lines from top to bottom. If you compare the lag it takes for a CRT to draw an entire frame and compare it to eg an LG CX oled there is hardly any difference.
Hey man just a heads up, Console Collector made a shoutout video and he mentioned you. Your channel is great and you deserve more subs!
Thank you for the heads up! I appreciate it and am so glad you enjoy my work!
I found a curbside throwaway 31” Sanyo CRT from 2003 that works perfectly and is cosmetically great. I love these type of finds. People try to sell these for $100.
Years ago a hotel down the street threw out all their 32"Phillips Commercial CRTs I managed to grab one . These Commercial CRTs have a module port in the back making it easy to RGB mod .
Yes, I have heard about this! Were you able to do the mod?
the main reason I play retrogames on a crt besides input lag is the way they look with true blacks and scanlines the way the developers intended to be.
Those true blacks really do look great.
For me it's mostly motion, and just in general the compatibility with old games and hardware which makes the gaming experience period-correct.
To add on the motion part: Motion on a CRT is more precise (for lack of better word) with less soap opera effect. This is noticeable between the TVs, but I find the difference to be generally far more obvious between computer monitors.
For game consoles and TVs, it's more of a period correct experience I'm seeking rather than for a videophilic purpose or for features that would give me a competitive edge. But I find that the older 20th century console games generally do look a lot more pleasant on CRT TVs. Sure, part of it is nostalgia and the unique experience in itself, but for the most part it does look better for any SD content in existence than using HDTVs which would require you to blow up a 480i picture to fit on a 1080p screen. I have DVDs of Avatar: The Last Airbender as well as many other 4:3 content DVDs and they do not look great on LED HDTVs. However they look spectacular on CRT SDTVs, it practically looks like it's made for CRT SDTVs and probably is.
@@xchimino2 It's technically true tho
Well done video!! I just got myself a little 14 inch CRT for my PS2 and no more input lag like what it did on my LCD TV. Couldn't be more happier!
Sounds good to me!
@@RetroBirdGaming thanks for replying man! Wish I could post a picture of the setup.
Awesome I got a 13 inch Toshiba CRT that I use for my N64 and GameCube
Holy crap you are literally the first TH-camr to actually get it right and understand. Almost every mainstream TH-cam where you see that does a video on CRTs All they do is talk about how people use them for competitive gaming they never even touch on retro gaming like it doesn't even exist or it's not worth consideration and all they can talk about is the glories of OLED because they're just some shitty tech elitist that gets paid money to shill products to people
When you lift a C.R.T., make sure you a firm grip on the bottom, and the glass should be embedded in your belly, as you lift. This is so that if it does tip, it just tips into you, and is not "going anywhere". ...Make sure your belt buckle does not scratch the screen.
Yeah, if you lift a CRT with the glass away from you... you could potentially pull off what I call a "teeter totter" where the glass end will just crash down as soon as you lift the other end up.
I paid $30 on Craigslist in early 2020 for my 1996 27" JVC CRT... I love it!
Also got a small PVM (Professional Video Monitor) for $8 at an industrial surplus warehouse. 👍
Wow talk about being lucky
@@bluefates58 I've had my fair share of getting screwed in life, as well. I guess it all equals out in the end.
Nice. Someone is selling their Sony PVM for $2000 over here in New Zealand. Very lucky you got it for that price. Enjoy it and look after that vintage gold. ✌😎👍
The best memories I have of those TVs are when after 10 seconds without blinking my eyes were warped in a sea of tears.
It is crazy how much your videos have improved in just a year. This video is great, but this channel ages like a fine wine, as each new video only gets better and better. Keep it up, RB!
A woman was giving a 32" CRT away for free. She was maybe 20 mins from me. I offered to take it off her hands. Got to her house and she says "this way" as she leads me to the TV...she then opens a door and I see it leads to a basement. Right away I thought "oh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"....and its one of those narrow stairs down to a basement. She then proceeds to tell me her husband can NOT help because of his bad back, again I thought "oh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu"...i actually had to ROLL the tv up the stairs. Thank God a neighbor was out, he at least helped me carry it from upstairs to my truck. Got home and there was a purple spot in the corner. I never tested at their home so I don't know if it was always there or happened cuz of rolling a 32" CRT up stairs lol.
Hahaha. Yet another classic CRT moving story. You ROLLED it on stairs? That's epic. Way to make it happen.
@@RetroBirdGaming screen facing out and rolling it up the dang stairs...i don't know how I accomplished it lol. But only to see that darn purple area on the screen. Ended up taking it to the local dump.
@@vice86 Rolling it definitely could've created the spot.
You rolled it!? lol that's amazing.
I did that same thing this year for a 32" tv. People really need to tell you when they're in a basement
I just use a 36" RCA TV, with an 8 port composite selector for my NES, SNES, Genesis, top loader NES, PS1, N64, PS2 and Gamecube.
While I understand that component video can make things look better, I really don't care about that. These old systems were all designed to output over composite video (with the exception of PS2 and GC, which had output options above composite), and I find everything looks perfect on my RCA. My biggest reason for having a CRT for my retro setup is no input lag. It makes a HUGE difference IMO. Great video, and great channel! Keep up the good work Retro Bird!
Dude. Ur facial expression on the videos are hilarious 😂👍
Haha. I try to have fun with it.
I stopped using my HDTV for gaming after I got a Sony Trinitron for like 18 dollars and the difference is night and day. I'll make sure to futureproof the CRT so it can keep working for the next decades to come.
Yeah, I think if we take care of our CRTs they can definitely last for a long long time.
better start looking for retired TV repairmen pronto!
oh heck yes crt's alllll the way u really nailed it here on all the points. No lag etc. Also man i love playing these old games the way they were intended to be played. Good video good channel dude. I gtg to bed but i just keep watchin lol lol
Hey, I really appreciate you taking the time to go through so many of my videos and am glad you enjoy them. If only all my videos had as many views as this one does! The TH-cam algorithm has been hard to figure out.
Between you and Console Collector you two are my favorite smaller youtubers.
Great video bro
Hey, I really appreciate that! Thank you.
0_0. You did a fantastic job of explaining why we adore CRTs. Some folks get too technical to the point that you might need to rewatch their vids to understand them better and others may be a tad dry. Yours was simple enough for anyone to understand, straight to the point, and fun. :D.
Thank you for producing this and turning on the captions!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it :) I'd love to take credit for the captions too, but that's something TH-cam automatically creates and you must've had the setting turned on haha.
Great video. I am glad I still keep my SONY crt tv as well.
May I know the title of the outro music? Thank you in advance!
I have quite a few CRT tv's around: two of them being enormous 36" monsters. You haven't fully experienced life (and a sore backside) until you've moved a few of those things around! I can offer this advise to anyone looking for anything 32" and above- make SURE you know where you want it, because once you finally get it there, it's probably going to sit and rot in that location... FOREVER!!! 😁
My dad has this 40+ inch computer monitor from the 80s we used to watch tv on and nes had many great memories on it. We still have it to my surprise.
I had a 13in Sony when I was in middle/high school early 90’s - kinda small but my TG16 looked absolutely gorgeous on it - wouldn’t mind getting my hands on one of those nowadays! Great vid!!!
A 13" TV wasn't that unusual for a young teenager in those days. Thing was probably awesome to have.
Mine is in the attic still.
A Sony pvm-20S1WU is how I have all my stuff hooked up. The reason for this particular pvm was that it was in Widescreen for one, which was important for me because I wanted only one monitor that could do everything; play my retro games in 4:3 and also play my Wii U, Switch and watch my dvds and Blu-ray’s in 16:9. It was also a widescreen PVM that was relatively cheap compared to other Sony widescreen models; hundreds instead of thousands of dollars. Some people point to this model as being relatively weak because of its 300 TVL count, but everything still looks great to me, and 480i contents looks fantastic with no flicker like you might find on really high TVL count tvs and monitors.
As an european I use an old b&o mx7000 (one of the most popular crt's around here for retro gaming) since it has 2 rgb scart inputs and great image control from the service menu. Also has a great soundbar it is a b&o after all. Really happy with it found it on a fleemarket about 7 years ago and is one of my greatest find in the "wild".
I pretty much play mine through my original hardware, Analogue hardware or RetroPie with scanlines turn on and connected to my HDTVs. I do have a 4:3 LCD 15" also for the original aspect gameplay. I do have a 27" CRT in my room also but don't really use it that often. Mostly use to play gameplay footage of an SD Card player attached to it if I'm having company over and want to show off my gameroom.
Nice. That's very similar to the equipment I use. RetroPie comes in really handy for emulating arcade games that were never ported to anything.
It's all about the nostalgic feeling, playing these games as well in CRT will bring back happy memories of childhood or early days of your gaming. if you gonna play retro games, Then use retro TV as well so it will feel natural.
For me since I’m a kid, it’s more of how it looks better considering I don’t remember using a CRT a lot growing up since I was little.
@@SirSiegward yup i depends on your generation maybe, Im a 90's kid so yeah I grew up playing in CRT days
@@jojob_clips269 it definitely feels more natural to play retro games on a retro tv though, I prefer my CRT out of any hdmi converter.
I use my modern Samsung TV (I use a DVD/ VHS combo with Scart imput) but I will use my old little Sharp CRT in the future.
Good idea!
Not to long ago I got a 13" CRT that was made in 2003 and its perfect for me. It only has a video and one audio input Buti have a composite splitter to solve that problem
Thank you for showing duck hunt on this set. I’m looking to grab a 24 inch version and I wasn’t sure if light gun games would be a problem. I hear that not all standard def flat screen CRTs handle them well.
Glad that worked out!
I have two 21 inch Sony Trinitrons, a 14 inch Mastui from the late 90's, a brand new never been used 14 inch Ferguson in metallic light blue from 2008, and a 14 inch Sanyo from 1983.
Some of them need some work doing on them. The one that I'm using right now for my standard definition gaming is the Matsui.
I might add that the ideal playing method for Atari 2600 games requires a real old crt with round edges and blurry colours. Look at Yar´s Revenge for example: the massive multicoloured wall is meant to be blurry not sharp.
Speaking of CRTs I notice it’s rare to see yours refresh. Do you record video intentionally syncing the refresh rate?
Yes, you got it. I try to make the filmed footage look as clean as possible. I've also noticed certain color palettes seem to work better than others. For example, light blue doesn't get along well with my camera.
Retro Bird interesting. Makes sense why I saw it refreshing on the Duck Hunt footage. Good video btw. I really miss my crt. Upgraded everything to play on hdmi.
Scan lines are important for older games because a lot of the tricks devs had to use in order to make cool looking effects back then were created with scan lines in mind and when you remove them you lose the effects and get weird looking artifacts
Gotta a Sony kv-32fv320 for $10 at a goodwill. Has 2 component inputs. Went with HD retrovision component cables all the way around for every console except NES and dreamcast.
Nice! Having two separate component inputs is pretty handy!
I got a “newer” 20” Sanyo CRT (Flatscreen) w/ one component input. I then use a component switch ton hook up my my GameCube, PS2 and have an open slot left. I love it 🤙🏽
Thanks for the video, wonderful set you got there. I have two standard Trinitrons, a 34" and a 25" backup for 240p, a 32" Wega for 480i widescreen (mainly PS2), and a 32" Samsung Slimfit with HDMI for widescreen 480p/720p (mainly OG Xbox). I have also been buying as many higher resolution CRT monitors as I can, while they are relatively cheap and easily available. I use those with OSSC, for 240p on 5x mode and 480p on 2x mode or passthrough. GameCube with GCHD looks amazing. On the hunt for a CRT monitor that can handle 1920x1080p, got outbid today on eBay trying to get a CPD-G500, but the search continues. The best I got right now is a CPD-E400 (1800x1440p). If I won the lottery, the first thing I would buy is a GDM-FW900. As of now, I'm up to 9 CRTs and I love them all.
Whoa! That's a lot of CRTs. Glad to hear you love them so much.
@@RetroBirdGaming I'm drunk with CRT power! Kudos for replying to as many comments as you can, as a previous uploader, it can be overwhelming and annoying sometimes. Good man, best of luck and enjoy your tube.
@@MississippiMike Thank you. I plan on replying to pretty much every comment for as long as it's possible.
I was given a CRT tv by my former brother in law. It is a 32 inch Toshiba. It has a super high resolution so every console comes in crystal clear. I actually prefer playing my old consoles through the composit hook up. I play my PS2 and xbox through component cables. I got to looking at the crazy thing one day and realized it has an HDMI connection for 720P. I have all of my Mini Consoles hooked up to that input. This tv also has pretty much a 0 input lag. It is the by far the most awesome TV I have ever played video games on.
Playing the older consoles through composite is actually a preference that many others share with you. Besides having a look similar to what you grew up with, it also implements what's called dithering in some ways that were originally intended (the most famous example being the waterfall in Sonic).
I love CRTs. I currently have 3. Lol. 1 Small one with Composite and Component. And then a good Mid Size one with Composite, S Video, and Component, and then a Giant Hog with several of each input. They are great!
Sounds like a well-rounded lineup.
I actually use a Pioneer Elite SC-25 receiver to switch between my retro stuff hooked up with component and my modern stuff hooked up with HDMI. My TV is a Pioneer Kuro plasma TV and it makes everything look amazing! I use the receiver's upscaling and it looks fantastic
Nice!
My 25" Philips started not wanted to power up sometimes. Really good tv. I luckily found a 25" JVC with component video on Craig's list for 25$ a few years ago. The lady claimed it was almost never used. It does look really clean. The remote looks new and she even had the user's manual. I will always try to have a CRT for my retro games. It just has the "right look" that can't be replicated with filters. The zero latency is also a big deal to me. When you've been playing certain games for years and years and lag is introduced it really sucks. I just can't do it.
I still have my old 27inch "Entertainment Series" RCA TV that I bought in high school. I bought it in 2002, if I remember correctly.
It still works beautifully!
I also found a 30inch flat-glass CRT at a yard sale for $3! Haha Perfect picture!
$10 for a programmable remote control and I'm in business!
I wanna know what's the best kind of shelves that can also display some games and the consoles (like something from ikea) that could also support the weight of a 27in trinitron
I have a Crt with component S-video composite and RF all the inputs I’ll ever need for retro plus I have the OSSC for connecting to HDTV
A friend gave me a 27” Philips with a component input and an S-video input, and while for a while I didn’t do much with either of those inputs. But I recently decided to have the crt side by side with a 4K modern display. With the exception of my NES and N64, which will be on composite and S-video respectively, I want to have the rest of my consoles on either component or hdmi. My SNES looks unbelievable with HD Retrovision snes cables.
I’m new to the channel but have been loving watching all the videos I can. I just wanted to ask if you had to fix any geometry issues on the crt you have. I managed to get two free Sony trinitron tvs and both have some geometry issues
From my experience, no CRT is ever going to have perfect geometry just due to the nature of the technology. The overscan is the biggest thing that I've had luck fixing. Also, glad to have you on the channel!
@@RetroBirdGaming Yours looks pretty good from what I can see. The 27 inch I have doesn’t have too bad of an issue and I can play in s video and still have a good time. Component video has more of an issue on both. I can try and find a solution or just stick with a video. Thanks for the reply and the content!
Hey my main man you got my sub! I like your videos so much I decided to use it in one of my ads on Kijiji it's like Craigslist for Canada I have a wanted ad looking for crt's in my area let me know if that's okay cheers :D
Glad to hear that you're liking the videos! Welcome to the channel :) And yes, if you want to give my video a little more exposure I am okay with that. Thanks for the positivity!
My CRT is a 20M2MDU Sony PVM, and I mostly use HD Retrovision Component Cables with systems that don't normally have them. Everything is connected to an automatic 8 input 2 output component switch box. One output goes to the CRT while the other goes to my OSSC and into a capture card.
Addendum: Was it expensive? YES! But when it has two Component/RGB inputs, S-Video, and Conposite with support for both NTSC and PAL signals at both 50Hz and 60Hz you have an INCREDIBLY versatile, powerful retro monitor for everything Pre-6th Gen + PS2.
Would be cool to see companies make new CRTs again at some scale if only to work with the games of yesteryear. I'm happy I saw this switch coming so picked up a bunch of B&O MX7- and 8000s when they were commonplace (even got one for free). Sadly don't have a Trinitron though but yeah... 4x MX series, a small TV I picked up off the street and my old Grundig should hopefully last me through my lifetime at least.
Any have a suggestion for RF switches?
This video explains why R4 was more difficult on HD format 🤔. Thanks 👏 😁
I have a 20 inch Samsung crt with component that I use to play my Sega Saturn and other retro games from my raspberry pi 3b. It’s not the biggest or best but the games look great to my eyes ☺️
What transcoder do you use?.. I need a vga (dsub-15) to component (ypbpr) transcoder. I just can't find one lol. Those things are hard to come by these days! 🤷🏼♂️
I have the same TV! Love it. Also own KV-32S40, JVC AV-36D104, Sony KV-27FS13, Phillips 20PT6245, Panasonic CT-27SL14J and two more Panasonic 19" and little one 13".💪
All right!
Are smaller samsung sets with flat glass any good?
I just dragged home a silver face, flat-front samsung 17" CRT set I found on the side of the road the other day. Definitely from the spongebob era by what I can tell. It works fine, and has 3 composite stereo inputs and 1 RF input.
Should I hold on to this set or are these silver face sets considered junk?
back in 2007 I played my original Fat PS3 with a CRT-TV because HD TVs was too expensive lol.(Back then, I was in high school and with my part-time Job I saved enough money for a PS3, but not an HD TV)
I have a N64 and decided to play on a modern Tv. So after lots of research I chose to buy the expansion pack, a Eon Super 64 which has the Slick Mode and a Mclassic and hook it all with a very good HDMI cable. So now I play my 24 years old N64 in Full HD without distortion or input lag. It was pricy to buy all these accessories but since I am playing lots and lots of games on my Everdrive it was surely worthy to me. But I still have my old CRT if I need it in the future.
The key is that you're happy with the setup. Glad it worked out for you.
I am 14 years old and my favorite games of all time are the country trilogy on snes I currently own 2 crts one is medium and one is huge I would use the huge one but it won’t stop popping
All right! I love those games too!
Just bought a 20" Panasonic crt for $60 off Craigslist. Was immediately impressed by the picture quality when playing my n64 and ps1. My 60" tv made the picture fuzzy and stretched.
A 27" CRT is the sweet spot for me. Large enough screen to not feel like it's too small to look at plus still light enough that I can move it around without extra help. Some of my consoles are hooked up with component while others are hooked up with s video. I actually prefer s video for some consoles over component because reds are sometimes way too strong. Makes characters faces look like they've got the strongest case of sunburn ever.
27" is the sweet spot for me too, and for practically the exact same reasons!
for me too.. I have a 34" Samsung to play 360 at "full HD" ,yeah it´s interlaced, but I dont like bad convergence in corners and also it´s too heavy.. its a paiin to make service to itHope soon I can get a good JVC or Toshiba for 240p games
27" is good for single player games, but I think it is too small for four player split-screen multiplayer, so I have to have a 36". It breaks my back every time that I have to move it, but it is worth it.
This is the reason that I keep in my basement two CRT TVs and two CRT PC Monitors.
P.S.: Duck hunt?! What an awesome game! I've spend many hours on that when I was a kid.
I use a crt tv for the wii, and a crt vga monitor for emulation up to n64. The crt vga monitor is running @120hz so it creates the 240p doublestrike effect.
Interesting. I'd be curious what that looks like.
How do you film the crt without seeing the screen refresh? I am going to do a TH-cam video in the next few weeks. I am going to compare my jvc iart vs sony wega vs pvm20m2mdu vs bvm1911. Any other advice you have about how to record would be appreciated. I am a noob when it comes to making videos.
You need to have the refresh rate of your camera synced up. A lot of it will come down to your camera and it's settings. Play around with it until you get something that looks how you want it to. Most people just live with whatever results they get on the first try, so it helps to allow yourself some time to tinker around with adjustments.
@@RetroBirdGaming cool. Thanks. I think I will play around with it this weekend
Grabbed 40+inch yesterday way heavier then anticipated definitely need 2 people but it got component so couldn't resist
I tried using a small CRT for a corner in my room where I hooked up my older consoles.
The problem was that it only had mono audio which had a lot of noise and the colors were washed out.
The thing with CRT´s is that even if most people no longer want them so it´s easier to find them for cheap on the wild most of the ones out there need maintenance or were never all that good to begin with.
So unless you´re willing to replace some capacitors on the mother board of an old CRT which might be out of the skill level of most people let alone dangerous it may not be a viable solution.
I ended up using a small LCD from the mid 2000´s.
The colors are nice, it has stereo sound and it doesn´t seem to have input lag, so I´d say it´s a nice alternative.
I had a similar tv like yours it was a 36inch Sony. According to the manual it weighted about 230 pounds
Great video! Although technically the scan lines are the colored lines being drawn or scanned, not the black ones. Scan lines also appear in 480i content, they just alternate to create a higher resolution.
Yeah, I corrected myself on this point in later videos. Still, I appreciate you pointing it out nonetheless :)
I recently did RGB mods on a couple of consumer TVs (SCART input mod) for a friend of mine and ran a few systems through it (RGB modded Neo Geo AES, Sega Saturn, & Sony PS1). The difference is pretty significant - especially compared to composite. Everything is so much sharper, and colors look so much more natural. It's a shame RGB wasn't available in North American TVs during the time these consoles were being produced. I think it would have added so much more detail and depth to the gaming exoerience.
Great content, just found you, binge time..
Thanks! Welcome to the channel :)
I have a Sony trinitron, it’s around 35’, it has composite, vhf/uhf, s-video, component, and hdmi inputs. What do you think about it? Is it any good?
I am wondering how much input lag there is when using a SNES Mini with a HDMI to Component converter. Hooked on a CRT TV (and the whole emulating progress) Does anybody have an answer on this this? Thanks! Nice video!
Thanks! The mini consoles have a small amount of input lag and then the amount of lag introduced by your HDMI to Component Converter would depend on the quality of the converter itself.
i have 6 sony trinitron crt tvs and i use only 4 of them , 3 in my apartment , 1 in my father house to play with the family , the other 2 in my father house too in a blocked room ,
is this normal ?
there's two Panasonic crt too in the same blocked room ,still in the box sealed ,,,,😅
sometime when i see them i feel happy 😁, and sometimes i feel,,,,, what i have done !🙄
please i need help 😥
I got a 32 inch sanyo crt has s video and component my wife's mother wanted to get rid of it and set it by the curb, thankfully I was able to get it, really enjoy playing nes, genesis, dreamcast ps2 . but only have n64 hooked up with s video, it does look a little better. I love that game ghouls n Ghost on the genesis beat it as a kid is pop that game in any day
To connect retro games up to my TVs is simple.
Atari 2600 straight into the aerial socket, anything else goes through my digital-analogue converter, which will turn composite into RF to be fed into a TV
All of my TVs are pre 1980 (apart from one) so all of them have RF and RF only.
I love the commitment to your own personal flavor and you've got the right user name for it to boot!
After doing research I probably have the 3rd best model out there in trinitrons. Model number Sony KV-32FS100
Yeah, that's a really good one. I think mine might be the KV-27FS100 but I would have to check again.
@@RetroBirdGaming The best Trinitron model out there is model number Sony KV-xxFV310 ( xx means screen size available in 27, 32, and 36 inches)
@@letisianieto4603 Sounds right to me. I picked up my CRT so long ago that I have gotten a little foggy on which models are which.
@@RetroBirdGaming I have the KV-20FS100:)
@@letisianieto4603 What about Super Fine Pitch XBR960 for me the best sadly I live in Europe but they are gorgeous for 6th gen
The original outro song is fantastic.
European perspective, back in the late 80s and early 90s we did have tv sets with RGB scart connectors but virtually noone used them. My 1991 polish/soviet tv set had RGB scart and 60hz support (oddly, my 1990 Sanyo and Japanese 1989 otake tv set had AV only). The problem is noone ever bothered to get RGB cables (and 60hz mods) we sticked to rf and AV (yellow video cable). So even though my soviet-polish tv set had all these goodies my colleagues and i were playing Sega genesis games with rf cables. Can someone please tell us how was it like in western europe?
Edit: PAL rf looks a lot better than NTSC so maybe thats the reason, if we were in the NTSC zone i would have purchased RGB cables.
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing and that lines up with what I've heard before. Nobody bothered to use the Scart connections even though you had them!
@@RetroBirdGamingcan i have a question? how big was an average secondary tv set in the american households? A typical tv set kids had in their rooms? In the soviet block this was 14", scan lines were less obvious, i mean less visible. Maybe thats the reason for this "scan lines schism"? Namely, all these gamers who had tiny crts do not need snalines today cause they do not remember them.
Still have my parents durabrand cet tv, weird to carry but works.
Nice!
I got a CRT also I have Retrotink 2x and OSSC.
Nice. Those are some great options!
You can use an OSSC on a CRT for exmaple on HD CRTs or much better PC CRT Monitors
My personal opinion is that 13-in TVs are the best.
But what I'm playing on now is a CRT HD TV. It's 30in and 150lbs!
2:45 I really agree with that... Lol...
In some countries, CRTs are still common
I have 3 crt tvs, one for the nes,one for the snes, and one for the sega genesis, using composite for the nes and sega while using svideo for the snes
Nice :)
psx saturn , In Samsung TVs, if you lower the contrast enough, you raise the brightness somewhat to compensate for the decrease in contrast and lower the definition to the top, the pixels and saw teeth disappear;)
Good tip. I'll have to play around with that!
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Yes, I do not know what other brands will happen but I only know that in samsumg yes, my tv is 40-inch samsumg;)
@@RetroBirdGaming good big games;) hehe 😅
@@RetroBirdGaming yes my mod is , similar to texture filtering bilineal in emus ;)
Not gonna lie. I totally thought that apple was going to nail you at 2:11.
Scanlines on even halfway decent crts aren't even that noticeable unless you're sitting way too close. I don't see why people obsess over them so much. I personally can't stand how it's been implemented on modern screens either. It's never been so obvious.
Even I would admit that I probably obsess over them more than I need to. But hey, it's what I'm into. If you have a larger CRT, the scanlines (or technically the "blank lines") are a lot easier to see without getting close. But then you're dealing with an even larger CRT and CRTs are already large to begin with :)
I might want a big ass CRT when my housing situation is different, but plugging everything into an HDTV works perfectly.
like one of those wooden grandpa ones you would sit on the floor and it doubled as a table?
@@coolelectronics1759 Something like that, yes.
@@devonwilliams5738 cool!
You should definitely get one like that from the 80s if you do!!
Something like a Zenith, RCA, Magnavox or Admiral.
hi! do lightgun work on Sony KP-ER53M61 projection crt tv?
It depends if it's an HD CRT or not. HD CRTs typically don't work with light guns.
Are there any adapters for any CRT TVs that don't have a component input?
If a CRT has S-Video or Composite, most consoles have cables you can find to support those inputs. Even for component, most older consoles now have specialty component cables (can be expensive though).
Gosh I'm wanting a nice crt. I wonder if the Retron 5 lag would be gone if played on a crt? A person would need a hdmi to composite converter or something.
That's a tough one. I have never used a Retron before and so I don't know for sure. Didn't Retrons used to have like S-Video and other analog signals like that?
@@RetroBirdGaming I own the Retron 5, and it uses hdmi.
@@RetroBirdGaming hey! I'm a little bit excited! I bought a nice crt tv..a 32 inch Sony Trinitron 2003 model! Just wanted to share that with you. Retro on!!😁👍
@@dad7275 Awesome! I understand your excitement. I remember how much fun it was for me to bring my CRT home and just binge on retro games.
@@RetroBirdGaming thank you! Yes I've been wanting this kind of TV for quite a while now and after watching this video again you said the ones with component hook ups was a little more rare..got me wondering so I moved my TV out a little and looked and behold..its there and s-vid too! My Saturn is currently hooked to the s-video but that component hook up gives me more options. Thanks for the video on this. I watched more than once. Its short, and to the point. 😁👍
I just got a crt for $150 a Sony Trinitron Colour Analogue Television 24inch I love it :) it’s bulky but feels like it compliments my 64 just perfect! I’ve tried hdmi on my 64 but just doesn’t feel right
Yeah, an N64 feels at home on a CRT.
I'm still using emulation for my cartridges, but I want to get some original consoles and a CRT TV at some point.
Older Tvs last longer than modern-day Tvs
I use to have a CRT tv it died after my 32" Element 720p died same time i do perfer older tvs if my current tcl 32" smart tv dies im gonna go a thrift store buy a Tube Tv. 📺 i hate the Prices i do have a HDMI Converter
I had a old Tv my Xbox one Looked great on it compared to 4K and 1080p
That's interesting. I never thought about how long CRT TVs live for compared to Modern TVs. I've never really had any TVs (modern or older) break on me come to think of it.
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I use to have a cheap Non Smart tv Element 32" 720p from 2013 last me 6 years now my current one TCL already has a White dot i do play. xbox some times watch TH-cam on my phone
@@unknownwolf4046 Dang, that sucks you've had issues with both.
I actually prefer composite for Saturn games because the dithering actually looks like transparency! No it's not as crisp, but it looks good with games like Nights into Dreams. S-Video or better reveals the checkerboard dithering and it no longer appears transparent.
I have original Xbox system does make a retro gamer it only old game system I collected for I play it 4k TCL 43 tv with a cable hook up