Fiberglass and screen patch will last longer and still no welding needed. But gotta cut out All the rust and use rust mort first. All materials to do a fiberglass repair are at any O'reilys
It’s got a project van I have I won’t really be driving it it’s more just to fix up for a TH-cam channel I was gonna use the foam then use a fibreglass kit then remove the foam as much as possible (this is what I was advised by a friend)
@@urbanstud1o fiberglass and mesh will help it last longer. Entire car bodies are made of fiberglass and its waterproof. Still have to prep it right, fill it, primer it, sand it again to make a decent repair
Bro, a chep flux core welder is 200 bucks, there are 100 million videos on yt on how to weld, there is no excuse to not do the best that you can at least. Fork up the 200-300 bucks to buy the welding machine (you won't regret it) watch a few hours of yt tutorials, grab a few pieces of metal and practice for a few hours and your all set, now you can weld, it's not that complicated.
I see a lot of comments about moisture getting trapped and making it worse. Perhaps giving it a couple treatments of rust conveter first would stop this?
Good job 👍 not a good repair.. but to each his own. If you want a tip for Bondo'ing over foam I've used fiberglass resin to stiffen the foam after cutting it, then do the bondo. The foam will never flex. ✌️ cheers from NYC
A friend of mine did this about 6 years ago to his winter truck and its still holding up. The resin basically fully locks it in like it does with fiberglass mat!
I have done it to an old beater silverado I had...lasted years,looked better than rot holes, and was CHEAP. I wouldn't do it to a nice vehicle...but it worked
I’ve done this to my Subaru many times. I never have any problems with is continuing to rust. I use an industrial rust converter solution that basically just makes it primer. I let it dry for like 3 days with a small fan on it and a dehumidifier in my garage to make sure it’s dry. The car is a pos on the outside so as far as I’m concerned I can’t do anything more to it than what has already done. If I had a brand new car would I do this? No! But because getting a new paint job for even one door would total out the car cost wise it’s the next best thing and unless you stare at it and look for imperfections it looks just fine. For a car worth only a couple k’s it’s a totally fine solution and since I live in a very rusty and snowy area I’m just gonna have to do it again
That’s cool but he should spray the inside with some rust eater spray then some undercoat spray then fill with foam then fiber glass over the foam then bondo
Not true! that is a myth. The only reasons it would hold water is if the person did not properly dry the area before applying, or they missed a spot where water can get in and get behind the foam, but the foam itself will not hold water, it is not a sponge like people seem to think. If you are afraid of that happening you just have to make sure to use closed cell foam, but it really does not matter. I bet you $10 bucks I could put a chunk of spray foam in a cup of water and let it set for a couple days and take it out, wipe it off and it will be bone dry.
@@Huckleberry9921 I have bought so many used cars jackasses do this too. The foam will deteriorate faster then normal typical use, like in a house, in a basement. On a car it is subjected to a extreme variety of conditions on each end of the spectrum example extreme heat, extreme cold. And throw in moisture and condensation. And add the fact that water will literally seep into any Crack and every crevice. Especially on rocker panels, that already have preexisting seep holes in them to let the water out. That always get clogged and hold moisture water and moisture in. Anyways, foam deteriorates overtime due to extreme fluctuations in temperatures and being exposed to moisture, the foam eventually becomes brittle and porous, water penatrates foam, and any residual rust before the "repair" expands under the foam to other metals, detaching the foam from the metal in turn also letting water in. Causing more rust. Original hole is now 2-4 times bigger and has now probably expanded to rear axle mounts. I bought a Nissan sentra this guy sprayed foam in the wheel well, and bondoed it. After driving it around for a year after I bought it, the spot cracked out. And the hole was 3 times bigger then the ball of foam. That was left over and the foam straight crumbled up like a old stale rice crispy treat. Sold it to a guy I made aware of the hole. He drove it for 3 months before the rear shock went up into the trunk and sent him into a ditch. Remove rust and just weld another piece of metal in, bondo, and spray the inside of the rocker with surface shield, fluid film, or woolwax. And you're done,
I have a 69 Beetle that needs body work... hopefully, I get the money to do this shit that needs to be done before rain. At least I live in California, so there's not much rain in the winter. At least a 69 Beetle is more expected to have rust and are worth fixing because at least they are past the car phase of just decreasing in value. So if I fix it up, it's worth more fixed than the money I paid for it, and either way, I'm going to keep the car.
I guess we will see how long it lasts. I'll post update on a few years. Gonna get driven in the salt this winter. I'm hoping I sealed out any water getting into the hole. Also I don't think this kinda foam absorbs water, it pretty much repels water. I put a chunk of it in water and it just floats, didn't suck up any water.
@@amphibiousmotorcycle Foam is porous. Where you cut the foam that exposed the pores. Not to mention now that you filled the cavity in the rocker air can't move through there trapping any moisture and salt that seeps in between the metal and foam.
@@amphibiousmotorcyclecheck out KBS products their addicting AF! You can use your method in conjunction with rust seal as long as you do proper preparation such as sanding etc and never see that rust again! I mean I would never personally use that foam sh@t on a car I actually care about it but if it's a back up beater go for it or just a vechile your flipping that's a beater do it!!!
I did it to an 89 silverado I had. Lasted years and I live where there's alot of salt during the winter. Hell, I've seen bodyshop repairs last less time. I wouldn't do it to a nice vehicle, but an old beater...why not
Had an old car found rust like this. Removed rust from what I thought was a 3 inch hole. The hole got bigger to about 15 inches LOL. found a bunch of foam like this. Couldn't save the frame rail had to get rid of the car. dealership work.
Everyone please understand it doesn’t matter if it lasts a year or 2 looking somewhat ok , this is trapping moisture inside and will cause rocker too start rusting even worse down the road ,
And aslo the worst this way you clog the drainage channel so the water dont have płacisz where to go, so it stays, making even more rust around. Look good but for maybe a week or two before new rust appears
Maybe if you bought a rusted out car up north, and took it down to New Mexico or Arizona, then this would be a reasonable thing to do. Because no more moisture is ever going to get in there down in the southwest. Other than that, I was contemplating this technique, but I’m not gonna do it. I’m up in Wisconsin
I will never make fun of anyone for doing the best they can ,but this should not be done. And if they sell this I hope they would be honest enough to show whoever this how to video to them first and if the person still wants it, more power to them!
I have found I can tow these cars home, with ok bodies for about $800. About 6 hours a can swap motor, batteries, whatever and have junk yard pick up whatever is remaining. Wouldn't be worth selling the rusty body car. I'm just making it look better a couple more years.
Doesn't it typically require welding? I would think that's the hang-up for most people who don't have a MIG Welder and commercial argon gas cylinder. And the body shop will quote $2500-3000 sometimes which can be close to the value of an old rusted out car. If you have any tips or tricks, I'm all ears because my 2012 escape needs them badly.
Bondo is terrible, it heaves, cracks, etc. I use fiberglass filler, rivet in plastic poly wall (the plastic wall from showers) fiberglass over that. Holds indefinitely.💯👌
Guys this is the worst thing you could ever do, i mean you mind as well just let it go if this is the option bc if you do this it will just retain moisture even when it may not apear to be wet bc ig will be behind the surface, thats all what spray foam will do and once u introduce constant moisture to a rusty or once rusty or not even just a rusty area but regardless it will rust much faster than it already once was
Thanks Josh. There is a 50% chance this car will be in a accident in the next 2 years. Due to teenage drivers. Lol I bought this car for $200 for my kids to use for a first car. I spent 1 😊😊hours work to make it look much better for 2 years. I do have all the equipment and materials to weld in metal and make a better fix, that would last longer. But I don't have the time to spend 10 hours on a $200 car. But I did have the small amount of time to make it look 100% better for the time being.
@@amphibiousmotorcycle I didn't understand at first but now I do. I don't mean to anger in any way. I'm sorry about that. I love cars. They are the work of art. I love the classics. Again sorry and hope you have a great day.
Did the exact same for under the car had a 7’ by 2’ rusted hole and thought p40 just gonna fall, got some insulation foam shaped and shaved the excess and filled with p40 and worked like a charm thank god someone else thought the same 😂 was looking for other ideas now thinking why change 😜
3 months now, nothing has changed. Daughter parks it in the driveway, so it's always outside in rain etc, and drives it to school each day. She takes it to the car wash every few weeks. Winter is coming, salt will have it's chance soon. Nowhere I can see for the salt to go but on top of the paint. This has to be better than before with the rust hole, that would have let water and salt get inside. Crossing my fingers.
That is the most dumbest way to repair the car. Any man in their right mind would cut the rust out, get a peace of sheet metal mold it, tack weld , finish molding the metal to the car, then weld it permanently. Once it's in place grind it and make it even with the area of the car. Lightly spread bondo to seel pits and holes. Sand it down to where it is straight and even with the lower part of the car, prime that area with gray primer , wet sand the area to even out the area and get rid of over spray of primer, tape up the area that your going to paint and then paint. But before you paint clean the area with laqor thiner to get rid of the oils and dirt so you don't get fisheyes in the paint. Do it the right way might take longer but it pays off in the long run. Cutting corners is a mistake. Latter you will have to do it again after it cracks. That fome stuff don't do well in the heat and cold weather.
Fiberglass and screen patch will last longer and still no welding needed. But gotta cut out All the rust and use rust mort first. All materials to do a fiberglass repair are at any O'reilys
can you do this then use fiberglass ?
@@urbanstud1o i wouldn't. Unless its your own car and you don't care and just trying to get by for a while
It’s got a project van I have I won’t really be driving it it’s more just to fix up for a TH-cam channel I was gonna use the foam then use a fibreglass kit then remove the foam as much as possible (this is what I was advised by a friend)
@@urbanstud1o fiberglass and mesh will help it last longer. Entire car bodies are made of fiberglass and its waterproof. Still have to prep it right, fill it, primer it, sand it again to make a decent repair
Bro, a chep flux core welder is 200 bucks, there are 100 million videos on yt on how to weld, there is no excuse to not do the best that you can at least. Fork up the 200-300 bucks to buy the welding machine (you won't regret it) watch a few hours of yt tutorials, grab a few pieces of metal and practice for a few hours and your all set, now you can weld, it's not that complicated.
I see a lot of comments about moisture getting trapped and making it worse. Perhaps giving it a couple treatments of rust conveter first would stop this?
Good job 👍 not a good repair.. but to each his own. If you want a tip for Bondo'ing over foam I've used fiberglass resin to stiffen the foam after cutting it, then do the bondo. The foam will never flex. ✌️ cheers from NYC
Cool, thanks
A friend of mine did this about 6 years ago to his winter truck and its still holding up. The resin basically fully locks it in like it does with fiberglass mat!
Hell using an old gutter would be better than foam
You should get jail time for slopping this as a repair, it's just a cover up for your poor morals
Agreed
It’s his car
I have done it to an old beater silverado I had...lasted years,looked better than rot holes, and was CHEAP. I wouldn't do it to a nice vehicle...but it worked
It works and will last at least 5-10 years depending on the conditions
Try it first then speak
I’ve done this to my Subaru many times. I never have any problems with is continuing to rust. I use an industrial rust converter solution that basically just makes it primer. I let it dry for like 3 days with a small fan on it and a dehumidifier in my garage to make sure it’s dry. The car is a pos on the outside so as far as I’m concerned I can’t do anything more to it than what has already done. If I had a brand new car would I do this? No! But because getting a new paint job for even one door would total out the car cost wise it’s the next best thing and unless you stare at it and look for imperfections it looks just fine. For a car worth only a couple k’s it’s a totally fine solution and since I live in a very rusty and snowy area I’m just gonna have to do it again
That’s cool but he should spray the inside with some rust eater spray then some undercoat spray then fill with foam then fiber glass over the foam then bondo
I did this on a car and it’s been years and it’s never rusted
Foam.dont rust
I believe foam soaks up moisture and can make adjacent exposed (non-painted, oiled or greased) metal rust.
This is the worst thing you can do to repair rust!!!!!!!!! Don’t do it! It traps moisture and the rust keeps spreading!!!
Thank you so much, good job..
Next time we see this car will be on “Just Rolled In “ channel
The foam will hold moisture and make it alot worse over time, not even a year later that spot will be rusted out 5xs worse
Not true! that is a myth. The only reasons it would hold water is if the person did not properly dry the area before applying, or they missed a spot where water can get in and get behind the foam, but the foam itself will not hold water, it is not a sponge like people seem to think. If you are afraid of that happening you just have to make sure to use closed cell foam, but it really does not matter. I bet you $10 bucks I could put a chunk of spray foam in a cup of water and let it set for a couple days and take it out, wipe it off and it will be bone dry.
How would it get moisture if he fills the rest with body filler and paints it?
@@Huckleberry9921 I have bought so many used cars jackasses do this too. The foam will deteriorate faster then normal typical use, like in a house, in a basement. On a car it is subjected to a extreme variety of conditions on each end of the spectrum example extreme heat, extreme cold. And throw in moisture and condensation. And add the fact that water will literally seep into any Crack and every crevice. Especially on rocker panels, that already have preexisting seep holes in them to let the water out. That always get clogged and hold moisture water and moisture in.
Anyways, foam deteriorates overtime due to extreme fluctuations in temperatures and being exposed to moisture, the foam eventually becomes brittle and porous, water penatrates foam, and any residual rust before the "repair" expands under the foam to other metals, detaching the foam from the metal in turn also letting water in. Causing more rust.
Original hole is now 2-4 times bigger and has now probably expanded to rear axle mounts.
I bought a Nissan sentra this guy sprayed foam in the wheel well, and bondoed it. After driving it around for a year after I bought it, the spot cracked out. And the hole was 3 times bigger then the ball of foam. That was left over and the foam straight crumbled up like a old stale rice crispy treat. Sold it to a guy I made aware of the hole. He drove it for 3 months before the rear shock went up into the trunk and sent him into a ditch.
Remove rust and just weld another piece of metal in, bondo, and spray the inside of the rocker with surface shield, fluid film, or woolwax. And you're done,
@@Huckleberry9921water drips into those rocker panels. That's why there are weep holes
Water gets in there the same way it did over the fucking metal 😆😆😆
I did this on my 06 and came out ok Bondo works good its a 06 patch job is all I needed
I've tried this...rust continues to rust and your patch needs another patch...repeat every 3- 6 months
You apparently did not remove the rust good enough.
Every 3 months? Do you live in the Atlantic Ocean? 😂
thank you very much sir
My neighbor's car had bondo cracking and his bodyshop informed him that someone filled his rocker panel with foam like this video. 😂
Used car lot special 😂
I have a 69 Beetle that needs body work... hopefully, I get the money to do this shit that needs to be done before rain. At least I live in California, so there's not much rain in the winter. At least a 69 Beetle is more expected to have rust and are worth fixing because at least they are past the car phase of just decreasing in value. So if I fix it up, it's worth more fixed than the money I paid for it, and either way, I'm going to keep the car.
Great idea. That foam is going to turn into a big sponge absorbing all of the moisture that it can rotting it out even faster.
I guess we will see how long it lasts.
I'll post update on a few years.
Gonna get driven in the salt this winter.
I'm hoping I sealed out any water getting into the hole. Also I don't think this kinda foam absorbs water, it pretty much repels water. I put a chunk of it in water and it just floats, didn't suck up any water.
@@amphibiousmotorcycle Foam
is porous. Where you cut the foam that exposed the pores. Not to mention now that you filled the cavity in the rocker air can't move through there trapping any moisture and salt that seeps in between the metal and foam.
@@amphibiousmotorcyclecheck out KBS products their addicting AF! You can use your method in conjunction with rust seal as long as you do proper preparation such as sanding etc and never see that rust again! I mean I would never personally use that foam sh@t on a car I actually care about it but if it's a back up beater go for it or just a vechile your flipping that's a beater do it!!!
I did it to an 89 silverado I had. Lasted years and I live where there's alot of salt during the winter. Hell, I've seen bodyshop repairs last less time. I wouldn't do it to a nice vehicle, but an old beater...why not
@@ericcouture96 YUP 👍
You can use this technique doing wood repair
Or , 18 gauge galvanized aluminum sheet just weld it to the rocker panel
Plenty of builders use bodge foam, it can now be used by mechanics to bodge a repair.
This may not be the proper repair method. But it sure is satisfying, damnit! Next time try using ramen noodles.
😂😂😂
Them noodles get brick hard.. cheaper too..
I give it till the first pothole 😂
Beer and pop cans and or old rags or your girlfriend's pantie's and thong's work as well for a good 😊 base point before adding the filler bondo...
Your the reason we always hated getting used car work
Had an old car found rust like this. Removed rust from what I thought was a 3 inch hole. The hole got bigger to about 15 inches LOL. found a bunch of foam like this. Couldn't save the frame rail had to get rid of the car. dealership work.
Everyone please understand it doesn’t matter if it lasts a year or 2 looking somewhat ok , this is trapping moisture inside and will cause rocker too start rusting even worse down the road ,
Noise cancellation at the same time, genius
If you put a little paint on that bare metal before you put the foam in wouldn't that help it to stop rusting back up so fast?
And aslo the worst this way you clog the drainage channel so the water dont have płacisz where to go, so it stays, making even more rust around. Look good but for maybe a week or two before new rust appears
Dude fiberglass over the foam
Maybe if you bought a rusted out car up north, and took it down to New Mexico or Arizona, then this would be a reasonable thing to do. Because no more moisture is ever going to get in there down in the southwest. Other than that, I was contemplating this technique, but I’m not gonna do it. I’m up in Wisconsin
I will never make fun of anyone for doing the best they can ,but this should not be done. And if they sell this I hope they would be honest enough to show whoever this how to video to them first and if the person still wants it, more power to them!
I have found I can tow these cars home, with ok bodies for about $800. About 6 hours a can swap motor, batteries, whatever and have junk yard pick up whatever is remaining. Wouldn't be worth selling the rusty body car. I'm just making it look better a couple more years.
Replacing a whole rocker panel is alot easier then people think.
Doesn't it typically require welding? I would think that's the hang-up for most people who don't have a MIG Welder and commercial argon gas cylinder. And the body shop will quote $2500-3000 sometimes which can be close to the value of an old rusted out car. If you have any tips or tricks, I'm all ears because my 2012 escape needs them badly.
I think more save just to weld a piece new metal
Bondo is terrible, it heaves, cracks, etc. I use fiberglass filler, rivet in plastic poly wall (the plastic wall from showers) fiberglass over that. Holds indefinitely.💯👌
"Never time to do it right, but always time to do it over."
Old Marine Corps saying.
In the UK this area of the car is classed as structural. If discovered at an inspection it would fail with a repair like this
How do I go about finding paint to match my vehicle? I have a 30th anniversary dodge caravan.
@@jorgejiminez-rk1uu thank you!
No use fiberglass instead
We’ll just edit out the part when the foam pushed the tape out lol. Otherwise nice video
Use fiberglass backed filler.
Don’t do this it will make it worse just tack on sheet metal and get down to doing it correctly
This is good if your just looking to flip the car for a quick buck 😂
How did I know this was gona involve expanding foam 😂
plz explain material used
Ya this repair will last a few months. Do the same with bondo glass at least and it will last a few years
Guys this is the worst thing you could ever do, i mean you mind as well just let it go if this is the option bc if you do this it will just retain moisture even when it may not apear to be wet bc ig will be behind the surface, thats all what spray foam will do and once u introduce constant moisture to a rusty or once rusty or not even just a rusty area but regardless it will rust much faster than it already once was
What are you doing in my mind, I just thot of this for my car hole😂😂😂
I can still see where the hole was. It's still rough on the ends. You lurn from mistakes.
Thanks Josh.
There is a 50% chance this car will be in a accident in the next 2 years.
Due to teenage drivers. Lol
I bought this car for $200 for my kids to use for a first car. I spent 1 😊😊hours work to make it look much better for 2 years. I do have all the equipment and materials to weld in metal and make a better fix, that would last longer.
But I don't have the time to spend 10 hours on a $200 car.
But I did have the small amount of time to make it look 100% better for the time being.
@@amphibiousmotorcycle I didn't understand at first but now I do. I don't mean to anger in any way. I'm sorry about that. I love cars. They are the work of art. I love the classics. Again sorry and hope you have a great day.
I should have titled this "Fastest Easiest Way to Fix Rust Holes, not the right way for sure" lol
@@amphibiousmotorcycle lol yeah that's the easiest way to fix it. And no doubt the cheeper way too.
You shoud learn how to spell
Yeeppp
I know a family who got a expensive car,
After a while they saw tape sticking up out of the paint. Turns out the paint was on tape not metal
What if they put a car Jack right under there😮
Mud it up Sarge.
A make over, see if it stays the same.. if compared to women at beauty salon it won't last long:)
We can follow better directions if we can see you doing it without moving the camera off view
What happens when you kick up a rock.?
Does it come up the door panell and hit ya in the chin? 😂😂
Did the exact same for under the car had a 7’ by 2’ rusted hole and thought p40 just gonna fall, got some insulation foam shaped and shaved the excess and filled with p40 and worked like a charm thank god someone else thought the same 😂 was looking for other ideas now thinking why change 😜
Whats P40
14 square feet of rust? The fuck did I just read?
I'm sure he meant 7" by 2"
P40 is a brand of body filler.
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don't do this guys
You missed A spot.
Is it still holding up?
3 months now, nothing has changed.
Daughter parks it in the driveway, so it's always outside in rain etc, and drives it to school each day.
She takes it to the car wash every few weeks.
Winter is coming, salt will have it's chance soon. Nowhere I can see for the salt to go but on top of the paint.
This has to be better than before with the rust hole, that would have let water and salt get inside. Crossing my fingers.
@@amphibiousmotorcycle nice, looks better than a rust hole as well
Bad idea
Ready for sale
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Stay tuned, my daughter now wants me to vinyl wrap this car in white. Another video coming.
Any one wanna repair my rust hole for me lol
Don't do this
And THAT'S how you butcher someone's car .
Mexican style
Работа перекупа☝️🤦🏻♂️
Sleazy used car turd polishing 101....
Try this in london lol
Gonna be a rusty mess doing that.
Good effort I guess
Tragedia!!!!!! Weź sobie tej pianki do głowy.
it did say fasted and easiest never said it was done right
That is the most dumbest way to repair the car. Any man in their right mind would cut the rust out, get a peace of sheet metal mold it, tack weld , finish molding the metal to the car, then weld it permanently. Once it's in place grind it and make it even with the area of the car. Lightly spread bondo to seel pits and holes. Sand it down to where it is straight and even with the lower part of the car, prime that area with gray primer , wet sand the area to even out the area and get rid of over spray of primer, tape up the area that your going to paint and then paint. But before you paint clean the area with laqor thiner to get rid of the oils and dirt so you don't get fisheyes in the paint. Do it the right way might take longer but it pays off in the long run. Cutting corners is a mistake. Latter you will have to do it again after it cracks. That fome stuff don't do well in the heat and cold weather.
Are you based in London by chance? Perhaps you could help me out with mine 🤣👍
🤡
Bah, good for a few years.
This is the type of body work you do on a 1500 dollar car. The body work outlasts the beater.
You know that.
Why y’all mad?😭
Lol Bondolero
Just save some time and money with paper mache.
Wtf
Hack job
Should have used newspaper 😮 😊 😂 🤣
Cowboy😮
That's gonna last 3 weeks.
Your a crook for saying that car is rust free.. it will not last more than two years before rust is bubbling the paint
TÜV sagt nein
Lol, it will soak up water and rust even faster…. Garbage repair!
BONDO USE BONDO
Nooooooooooo!!!! Not cool man!
Waist of time.
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