After 3 months of no contact I realized, I do not want them back... I would rather be lonely then with someone who dumped me and got into a new relationship a month after the break up. Thank you, Paz , your videos helped me during this...
The moment about them coming back reminds me when my narcissistic ex came back. I know its totaly different but I just wanted to share. When he monkey branched I was very sad, I was thinking he finaly met the right person and that he is gonna give to this girl everything that he didnt give me. I moved on and 2 years later I saw him in the club and he tried to seduce me again. He told me that he missed me so much, he asked me for another chance, I knew it was a love bombing BS. I politly declined. I was so proud of myself for not falling for it.😊
He’s correct. I’m a few years out and I decided to go no contact so I could heal. I could tell when she was having a hard time with whoever she was with, or between dudes because she would suddenly start hovering. They always come back, don’t fall for it.
100% My ex monkeybranched to some guy and I have to see them both once a week. She went so far out of her way to rub it in my face that it just disgusts me. Tomorrow will be 30 days no contact and I haven’t once reacted, never even questioned her about the relationship and I feel like it made her mad because she looks pissed every time I see her and stares at me even when she’s with her new guy.
One suggestion… once they return, never give them a closure, never tell them your feelings … act interested but never commit … Just watch and enjoy , they deserve it … And finally go for a person who deserves you ….
The new person will always be in the background, and you will be sleeping with one eye open. Don’t take a monkey branching ex back ever.. never ever ever. They are just users and abusers. Find someone who wants you for you, and won’t leave you to cheat and start a whole relationship while still being in a relationship.
Lol my thing is these are the serial dater types. They don’t know how to be single and stay alone. Nope 👎🏽 they’ve gotta be sleeping their way through the sadness. They are never truly single. Always has someone they’re using and leading on. Hence the sneaky links, hook ups, rebound relationships, situationships, etc. It’s actually sad 😔 and yet hilarious 🤣 to watch and realize. You ain’t missing out on anything.
They lost me. I tried to get her back so hard and seriously hurt my feelings through out the time. I could not imagine trying to jump into another relationship. This divorce is definitely fucked my mind and soul up. She quickly moved abroad. Left me the house I built for her the dog the car and after eight years you think their would have been some fight from her. I hope she meets someone new and realises nobody is perfect.
I remember those lovely moments when we would look into each other’s eyes and say sweet nothings embracing each other tight sayings like I love you , I want no one else , I’ll never leave you , after 5 years, 6 months broken up ,she gets married to another guy in less than a month, now I see her as a disgusting human being
We are too toxic for each other. I dont want to go back, and i dont want her to come back to rekindle.. I just want to heal and deattach from the emotional cord after 10 years 😢
@@Winchdon69 I feel you my friend! Take this time for you to DO THE WORK! Heal & grow from this! For $37 - Feel free to check out my Online Healing Coaching Program ➡️ pazgoldman.com/theriseofthephoenix
My soon to be ex husband monkey branch - rebound to this woman that I don’t understand how in the world he can be with her . Regardless the minute I found out I told him that the were no chance of me ever going back . I don’t want him back , he lost all value, and now I see him with different eyes .
Same happened to me, and I felt exactly the same way. I trusted that man 100% (I have massive trust issues) and I thought so highly of him. Now I just feel nothing but disgust, pity and disappointment in him. He's not the person he led me to believe
He started sleeping with his ex while we were together. I ended the relationship after 2 years and soon after, started dating my dream man. His ex turned out to be my blessing in disguise and doesn't look like he's with her.
I was essentially one of the many people he monkeyed branched to. I was a placeholder for two years. SMH n I see why ppl left him now. Lol 😂 everything he said the exes did he did directly to me. They tell on themselves. I’m now 2 months come 7/18 from the toxicity n chaos.
Can you do a video on being in limbo in the relationship where your not together and everyday is different some days he gives me hope then the next her doesn't
I love all your videos coach Paz . My ex girlfriend was monckey branching behind my back for over 6 months when I found out she left him and get back with me , we were supposed to get married 2 months ago she left me for the same person from last year , my question is can she really make her life with this new dude? Remember our relationship was over 8 years. Thank you 🙏
I think my ex wife was/is having a midlife crisis. I think she was having an emotional affair with her boss around a year before the divorce. She would close the bedroom door and I wasn’t allowed to see her naked, after 27 years relationship. And yet she would sexually flirt with me at times. I don’t recognize her. She used to be so sweet and loyal. Now she’s like a crazy person.
This! Lol they are so desperate to get with anyone! This dude was back hell never left Grindr and was allegedly hooking up with a suspected meth/heroine addict. Which is odd considering how the ex person talked trash about people on drugs. Only for him to run off n allegedly allow a meth/heroine addict stay with them only to kick them out once he realizes he wasn’t getting any booty /sex
Hello.. He monkey branched on me with his wife...26 years they are together, they have 2 children ... with me lasted 5 months.. we started dating while they were getting their divorce...I am in no contact..is he going to regret??
She was breadcrumbing me for 3 months and I lost interest. She sensed my disconnect and became attracted to me. Then a stranger walked up to me and said: ‘she’s all yours’ then walked away; only then did I realize that she was in a relationship while dating me. She then tried to monkey-branch to me but I already lost all interest in her. I’m very sad to this day because I now realize she was very immature and followed bad advice from her damaged, jealous girlfriends and female family members to be a player/feminist. She is lonely and single 40 years later. Any thoughts on why her ex told me ‘she’s all yours’; might she have told him to tell me?
Man I can relate to that last part so much with the toxic friends. When my ex and I were struggling I tried to warn her about her friends how they’re sick and don’t have her best intentions at heart. She thought I was just hating on them because I don’t like them and sure enough she followed their advice and monkeybranched into a relationship with a guy who’s more successful than me. Been 29 days no contact today. I never even reacted or asked her why or how she could do that to me I just walked away. A big part of me hopes she comes back just so I can tell her she lost her chance.
@@BennySa-w4kTy. Her damaged/feminist/toxic/jealous ‘friends’ are her relationships’ worst enemies. With my wife, I know of at least 2 of her ‘friends’ spoke disparagingly about me; it almost destroyed our relationship.
Can someone be psychotic enough to be able to completely erase you from their memory through sheer will-power? My ex monkey branched from me in an unhealthy way involving her mother and mother’s friend then blocked me on everything entirely. A lot of external influence in her decision, and picked up the first guy who showed interest - her mother’s friend’s son.
@@nickyj2657 no answer. There's statistics. But no answer for you brother. Ride it out, better yourself, get to the point where you believe you deserve better and can get better.
Im angry a myself for how ive handled post breakup. Ex moved on with a guy but has contacted me numerous times “checking on me,thinking bout me”. The last time she did i ended up getting angry and accused her of fucking with my head,breadcrumbing, she even said she isnt so sure bout this new guy, and i still got angry and said im sick of hearing about this guy. I reminded her im still angry about the fact she moved on with someone other than me. Our last convo was good but damn. I feel like a loser. What should i do going forwRd? Is she breadcrumbing me? We were together a decade i dont think her intentions are bad butndamn
Probably not what you want to hear but it's probably time to move on from her. Go no contact start dating again in time. If when enough time has passed and perhaps you've been through a new relationship aswell and you're both single at the time and have both grown and you find yourself naturally moving towards each other again then go for it. A friend of mine recently got married to a high school sweetheart after about 10 years apart. It can happen but don't wait around for it. If you got together again now it would always be on your mind that they could do it again and that's a horrible place to be in.
Set boundaries, my friend. She is using you. Nobody cares about her feelings. She is the one who left you. Let her feel her choice, her mistake, the consequence of leaving a man who was always by her side, through her darkest times . Think about your value. Be polite, but respond as short as possible. Respond like you are indifferent, even if you're not. Stay strong 💪
Establish your boundaries for you, not for her. Self reflect, really know what you want and what you won't accept in a relationship. If she shows signs of being a serial line stepper over your boundaries. Then it's probably not healthy for you, and you need to consider your needs going forward. Be kind to yourself. You deserve the absolute best, and that's hard when you feel your ex was the best for you. However, they have to truly respect you because you respect yourself. They have to have a burning desire for you and not just luke warm ambivalence. They have to want to walk over burning coals, cross mountains, and sail seas to be by your side to passionately love you. If they don't, then they are just weighing options and not serious about the relationship. I'm going thru a similar situation to you, and reading your question and responding to you is helping me to crystallise in my own mind what I need to see. My wife is Avoidant, so there's that, but it's still a conscious decision to cheat. Hope all goes well, brother.
You’re human. You loved her. I have been there too. But after a reasonable amount of time for I made a mistake - she made her very cruel to you choice. Get off the back burner and into YOU
does monkey branching count even after 5 or 6 yrs broken up? factor in living together/co parenting/unresolved issues on her part. im over the bs. but guy she wants seems less invested more into the sexual part than her.
@thomasthetankengin7722 I so disagree with you. This video was amazing. It's the equivalent of a case study presentation but presented for lay people. The outline is precise. The dialog is gold and descriptive of monkey branch behavior.
@@BasedLeifEriksson don't think so lol.. That's what I'm dealing with.. 6 years together have a toddler.. moved in with him so damn fast too.. only had her own apartment for like one month.. now my kid is there half the week too... Been 7 months.. still hurts.. still want my family back together again
Good for you km gay and very attractive it's hard for me. You have 5 to 1 for you so yeah you can move on faster not me. I bet you don't have to go to clubs and shit to meet a girl I do so my shit goes deeper but thanx for support
After 3 months of no contact I realized, I do not want them back... I would rather be lonely then with someone who dumped me and got into a new relationship a month after the break up. Thank you, Paz , your videos helped me during this...
@@martingaspar2245 she dumped me and dated the guy within 2 weeks 😄. Now she's trying to come back
The moment about them coming back reminds me when my narcissistic ex came back. I know its totaly different but I just wanted to share. When he monkey branched I was very sad, I was thinking he finaly met the right person and that he is gonna give to this girl everything that he didnt give me. I moved on and 2 years later I saw him in the club and he tried to seduce me again. He told me that he missed me so much, he asked me for another chance, I knew it was a love bombing BS. I politly declined. I was so proud of myself for not falling for it.😊
He’s correct. I’m a few years out and I decided to go no contact so I could heal. I could tell when she was having a hard time with whoever she was with, or between dudes because she would suddenly start hovering. They always come back, don’t fall for it.
The public disrespect is the worst part
Yes , totally understand..
100%
My ex monkeybranched to some guy and I have to see them both once a week. She went so far out of her way to rub it in my face that it just disgusts me. Tomorrow will be 30 days no contact and I haven’t once reacted, never even questioned her about the relationship and I feel like it made her mad because she looks pissed every time I see her and stares at me even when she’s with her new guy.
The more you are getting disrespected the more she is trying to convince herself and all people around how bad you were.
Monkeybranchers are cowards, that simple !
Or Sl*ts
One suggestion… once they return, never give them a closure, never tell them your feelings … act interested but never commit …
Just watch and enjoy , they deserve it …
And finally go for a person who deserves you ….
4 months of suffering....begging chasing .....nothing in return....now fed up....tired....no more now
The new person will always be in the background, and you will be sleeping with one eye open. Don’t take a monkey branching ex back ever.. never ever ever.
They are just users and abusers. Find someone who wants you for you, and won’t leave you to cheat and start a whole relationship while still being in a relationship.
I totally agree with you.
I come to this chanel every day
to reduce my pain
Same here !
What pain?
The pain you’re creating?
Right there with ya buddy
@@crucifire9224 my wife cheating on me
left me and 2 daughters
Lol my thing is these are the serial dater types. They don’t know how to be single and stay alone. Nope 👎🏽 they’ve gotta be sleeping their way through the sadness. They are never truly single. Always has someone they’re using and leading on. Hence the sneaky links, hook ups, rebound relationships, situationships, etc. It’s actually sad 😔 and yet hilarious 🤣 to watch and realize. You ain’t missing out on anything.
They lost me. I tried to get her back so hard and seriously hurt my feelings through out the time. I could not imagine trying to jump into another relationship. This divorce is definitely fucked my mind and soul up. She quickly moved abroad. Left me the house I built for her the dog the car and after eight years you think their would have been some fight from her. I hope she meets someone new and realises nobody is perfect.
At least you got the house
@@MrCallingoccupants yes well I had to buy her out of it £150,000
Rough bro! Sorry
Yup my ex gf took everything with her too
I love the way you explain everything.
I’m healed. Thank You
I remember those lovely moments when we would look into each other’s eyes and say sweet nothings embracing each other tight sayings like I love you , I want no one else , I’ll never leave you , after 5 years, 6 months broken up ,she gets married to another guy in less than a month, now I see her as a disgusting human being
@funkymonk542 is the same for me. The whole relationship just seems like one huge lie.
He still blames me....typical narcissist....doesn't want to come back because he wants to prove to his family that he was not wrong
That’s not what a narc does
@@Bloodsport1337 means
Narcissists can't admit that they made a mistake
Yes they are mental 😂😂 and i can relate with this video a lot my ex is same just how u explained in the video i thank god that she left me and went
@@ewww111 💪🏽💪🏽
We are too toxic for each other. I dont want to go back, and i dont want her to come back to rekindle.. I just want to heal and deattach from the emotional cord after 10 years 😢
@@Winchdon69 I feel you my friend!
Take this time for you to DO THE WORK! Heal & grow from this!
For $37 - Feel free to check out my Online Healing Coaching Program ➡️ pazgoldman.com/theriseofthephoenix
My soon to be ex husband monkey branch - rebound to this woman that I don’t understand how in the world he can be with her . Regardless the minute I found out I told him that the were no chance of me ever going back . I don’t want him back , he lost all value, and now I see him with different eyes .
Same happened to me, and I felt exactly the same way. I trusted that man 100% (I have massive trust issues) and I thought so highly of him. Now I just feel nothing but disgust, pity and disappointment in him. He's not the person he led me to believe
like having it written out. It takes it to the next level of learning. Hear it see it. At last someone who draws as bad as I do on the computer.
He started sleeping with his ex while we were together. I ended the relationship after 2 years and soon after, started dating my dream man. His ex turned out to be my blessing in disguise and doesn't look like he's with her.
I was essentially one of the many people he monkeyed branched to. I was a placeholder for two years. SMH n I see why ppl left him now. Lol 😂 everything he said the exes did he did directly to me. They tell on themselves. I’m now 2 months come 7/18 from the toxicity n chaos.
Thank you Coach ❤️
You’re welcome my dear friend, always here for you 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
@@PazGoldmanOfficial 🥺🥺🙌🏼yesss same here
Yup didnt know about moneky branching took her back just for her to do the same thing to me again 4 months down the line 😬😬
Yeah there’s typically patterns and signs from day 1 but most people miss them unless they have been monkey branched.
@Phil-j7t mmhm..
Hey coach
How do we act around our ex (monkey branched) when we are in the same work environment together/career program?
Grey Rock I am in the same boat as you, i just have to ignore her completly, we have noother choice or find a new job...
Might even take 2 years - there is no timeframe
It’s not a quick process - takes time to heal, go with the pain & learn from it
Can you do a video on being in limbo in the relationship where your not together and everyday is different some days he gives me hope then the next her doesn't
I love all your videos coach Paz . My ex girlfriend was monckey branching behind my back for over 6 months when I found out she left him and get back with me , we were supposed to get married 2 months ago she left me for the same person from last year , my question is can she really make her life with this new dude? Remember our relationship was over 8 years.
Thank you 🙏
She might do, either way if she comes crawling back. Tell her nah u r ok.hahha
I think my ex wife was/is having a midlife crisis. I think she was having an emotional affair with her boss around a year before the divorce. She would close the bedroom door and I wasn’t allowed to see her naked, after 27 years relationship. And yet she would sexually flirt with me at times. I don’t recognize her. She used to be so sweet and loyal. Now she’s like a crazy person.
This! Lol they are so desperate to get with anyone! This dude was back hell never left Grindr and was allegedly hooking up with a suspected meth/heroine addict. Which is odd considering how the ex person talked trash about people on drugs. Only for him to run off n allegedly allow a meth/heroine addict stay with them only to kick them out once he realizes he wasn’t getting any booty /sex
Hello.. He monkey branched on me with his wife...26 years they are together, they have 2 children ... with me lasted 5 months.. we started dating while they were getting their divorce...I am in no contact..is he going to regret??
Proverbs 21: 19
She was breadcrumbing me for 3 months and I lost interest.
She sensed my disconnect and became attracted to me.
Then a stranger walked up to me and said: ‘she’s all yours’ then walked away; only then did I realize that she was in a relationship while dating me.
She then tried to monkey-branch to me but I already lost all interest in her.
I’m very sad to this day because I now realize she was very immature and followed bad advice from her damaged, jealous girlfriends and female family members to be a player/feminist.
She is lonely and single 40 years later.
Any thoughts on why her ex told me ‘she’s all yours’; might she have told him to tell me?
Man I can relate to that last part so much with the toxic friends. When my ex and I were struggling I tried to warn her about her friends how they’re sick and don’t have her best intentions at heart. She thought I was just hating on them because I don’t like them and sure enough she followed their advice and monkeybranched into a relationship with a guy who’s more successful than me. Been 29 days no contact today. I never even reacted or asked her why or how she could do that to me I just walked away. A big part of me hopes she comes back just so I can tell her she lost her chance.
Yeeep.. I can relate..
@@BennySa-w4kTy.
Her damaged/feminist/toxic/jealous ‘friends’ are her relationships’ worst enemies.
With my wife, I know of at least 2 of her ‘friends’ spoke disparagingly about me; it almost destroyed our relationship.
Can someone be psychotic enough to be able to completely erase you from their memory through sheer will-power? My ex monkey branched from me in an unhealthy way involving her mother and mother’s friend then blocked me on everything entirely. A lot of external influence in her decision, and picked up the first guy who showed interest - her mother’s friend’s son.
How long can a monkey branching relationship last? My ex been with hers over a year
@@nickyj2657 no answer. There's statistics. But no answer for you brother. Ride it out, better yourself, get to the point where you believe you deserve better and can get better.
They can last forever.
@@Bloodsport1337 nothing lasts forever
@@MrCallingoccupants not true
Unfortunately you have to tell yourself that they aren't coming back! Work on yourself and get someone better, someone you deserve
Are Monkie branching and when an avoidant left you for someone else isn't the same situation?
Im angry a myself for how ive handled post breakup. Ex moved on with a guy but has contacted me numerous times “checking on me,thinking bout me”. The last time she did i ended up getting angry and accused her of fucking with my head,breadcrumbing, she even said she isnt so sure bout this new guy, and i still got angry and said im sick of hearing about this guy. I reminded her im still angry about the fact she moved on with someone other than me. Our last convo was good but damn. I feel like a loser. What should i do going forwRd? Is she breadcrumbing me? We were together a decade i dont think her intentions are bad butndamn
Probably not what you want to hear but it's probably time to move on from her. Go no contact start dating again in time. If when enough time has passed and perhaps you've been through a new relationship aswell and you're both single at the time and have both grown and you find yourself naturally moving towards each other again then go for it.
A friend of mine recently got married to a high school sweetheart after about 10 years apart. It can happen but don't wait around for it. If you got together again now it would always be on your mind that they could do it again and that's a horrible place to be in.
Set boundaries, my friend. She is using you. Nobody cares about her feelings. She is the one who left you. Let her feel her choice, her mistake, the consequence of leaving a man who was always by her side, through her darkest times . Think about your value. Be polite, but respond as short as possible. Respond like you are indifferent, even if you're not.
Stay strong 💪
Establish your boundaries for you, not for her. Self reflect, really know what you want and what you won't accept in a relationship. If she shows signs of being a serial line stepper over your boundaries. Then it's probably not healthy for you, and you need to consider your needs going forward.
Be kind to yourself. You deserve the absolute best, and that's hard when you feel your ex was the best for you. However, they have to truly respect you because you respect yourself. They have to have a burning desire for you and not just luke warm ambivalence. They have to want to walk over burning coals, cross mountains, and sail seas to be by your side to passionately love you. If they don't, then they are just weighing options and not serious about the relationship.
I'm going thru a similar situation to you, and reading your question and responding to you is helping me to crystallise in my own mind what I need to see. My wife is Avoidant, so there's that, but it's still a conscious decision to cheat. Hope all goes well, brother.
You are dealing with a narcissist, she is playing you like a fool go no contact and get your value up.
You’re human. You loved her. I have been there too. But after a reasonable amount of time for I made a mistake - she made her very cruel to you choice. Get off the back burner and into YOU
what if they monkey branched in a short term relationship
You are the effin man 😂
How about with Avoidants? They rarely self reflect but can still hit you up.
@@Apbt-rv7zw they're worse.
does monkey branching count even after 5 or 6 yrs broken up? factor in living together/co parenting/unresolved issues on her part. im over the bs. but guy she wants seems less invested more into the sexual part than her.
Dude, I like your content but this could have been 10m.
@@thomasthetankengin7722 no it couldn't - his words are soothing
@@callofdutybloginfo yep but he jumps from one thing to another and takes 5m to make a point that required only 1
@@thomasthetankengin7722 I have no such problem
@thomasthetankengin7722 I so disagree with you. This video was amazing. It's the equivalent of a case study presentation but presented for lay people. The outline is precise. The dialog is gold and descriptive of monkey branch behavior.
❤
I’m guessing that this doesn’t apply to narcissists?
@@BasedLeifEriksson don't think so lol.. That's what I'm dealing with.. 6 years together have a toddler.. moved in with him so damn fast too.. only had her own apartment for like one month.. now my kid is there half the week too... Been 7 months.. still hurts.. still want my family back together again
Good for you km gay and very attractive it's hard for me. You have 5 to 1 for you so yeah you can move on faster not me. I bet you don't have to go to clubs and shit to meet a girl I do so my shit goes deeper but thanx for support
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