RE003’s do pretty well for what’s an old, old tyre now. The buy three, get one free deal for them is always a winner too. The RE004 is out overseas, no idea why Bridgestone/Firestone haven’t bought it out here yet. I’m using Goodyear asymmetric at the moment and I really like them. Nicely balanced tyre.
The problem with Goodyear Asymmetric is that there is a big step in sidewall stiffness between 17" and 18". I had the 18" versions before and they were good, predictable with good feedback, but apparently the 17" versions of the Asymmetric are much softer and rather vague. It's a shame we can't get Eagle F1 Super Sport in the smaller sizes. I'm very happy with the Potenza S007A at the moment though (hopefully the replacement Potenza Sport is just as good, even though it is a little lighter construction), the S007A has the same excellent taut sidewalls and road feedback as the RE003 (or any Potenza, Bridgestone are good about not compromising on the essentials of a sports tyre), but with *much, much* more grip. None of the horrible vagueness from the 17" Pilot Sport 4 ST, those were awful IMO, a total "jelly tyre" as Jonathon Benson from TyreReviews calls soft sidewalls tyres (maybe the 18" version is not as bad, thankfully, but even so in Benson's tests he confirms even the European version of the Pilot Sport 4, which is different than our "ST" version from SE Asia, does not feel sporty compared to the competition despite the name). It's the combination of the PS4's very wide tread and very soft sidewalls, which means the tread is very poorly controlled on the rim under lateral loads and exhibits unsettling lateral oscillations (the Pilot Sport 4 is mighty under braking or traction thanks to that, though, for people who care more about that), notwithstanding the lack of road feedback means you can't tell what the tyres are doing, unlike the excellent feedback which normal, rigid sports tyres provide! RE004 could be the go-to when it arrives as it's still engineered by Bridgestone Japan (like the S007A and RE003), unlike the Potenza Sport which is now engineered by Bridgestone in Italy. It should have a more competitive price than the Potenza Sport (mind you, the Potenza Sport already has a pretty reasonable price compared to the Eagle F1 Super Sport or Pilot Sport 4S, *and* the Potenza is the only one that is available in smaller sizes).
@@christopherjohnston6343 I've got the 225/45 R17 for the S007A, which is also available in the Potenza Sport (in Australia). :) The RE004 should be available down to 15" when it finally arrives though.
Woo! I just bought the Pilots a month ago on my stock wheels and - oh my goodness! WORLDS difference from my economy (Michelin) Primacy’s! I love these tyres!!!
I'm in Australia and have gone through 3 sets of Pilot Sport 4 tyres on my Golf. I like them but I've just changed to RE003's because even with regular balancing, rotations and alignment I wore through them very quickly. I find the RE003's a bit harder, louder, but a bit more direct in steering feel, interested to see if they last longer. On another note the Pilot Sport 5 just got released which seems to perform identically to the 4 in grip but Michelin are claiming better durability.
Yeah tbh any performance summer tyre is gonna wear pretty quickly coz it's a soft compound for better grip. I'll probably get 30,000km out of my re003's before needing a chance. They're starting to get low
I like RE003s. Have had them on 4 different cars but they are seriously outclassed now. Hankook RS4 (Z232) is the performance buy at the moment in NZ. Its cheaper than RE003s - wears well and has a looot more grip. It does take a lot of work to get heat into them now that we are not in summer but even cold they offer similar performance to Re003s A lot sharper than mushy all rounders like PS4 too.
@@KiwiCarLife but you like a bit of luxury and balance. The Pilot Sport is, basically the accord of tyres. Does everything well. Doesn't sacrifice comfort like most sport tyres do. It's debatable how usable RS4s are on public roads. My Miata mates can but they are all pretty intense with his hard they push.
How are the Hancooks in the wet? Had RE003s and now have PS3s on my car, the RE003 was much more pointed on turn in while the PS3 rolls onto the sidewall a lot more, but the wet grip is so many lightyears ahead on the PS3 that it makes me struggle to want to go back to RE003s instead of PS4s for my next set.
I am a fan of PS4, have them on my car, you missed one very important comparison and that is braking distance, PS4 really pull up well wet or dry and that is what gives me the ultimate confidence in these tyres. In the past I have had Potenza's on my other cars and I like them also, what is the actual price difference these days anyway? for me I feel the small amount extra to pay is well worth it.
Big fan of the PS4s, have them on my Euro atm. Could not fault them. Did have RE003s on my WRX but switch them to the PS4s and felt substantially quieter and also lasted longer. About a $100 difference between both for all 4 so not too much difference. Both solids options but I’ve found tyres are something you don’t want to skimp on.
absolutely love your car bro! Recently got my 07 cl9 accord and love it. Looking to upgrade and modify it but having a bit of trouble on where to find a lot of the things. Also not to sure what I should get to start my build as such. Your channel is such a help especially with all the reviews and everything. So happy to watch a video of yours at the end of a day.
Great test. I switched from RE003s to PS4's on my STI and the difference was noticeable but not massive. The PS4's are completely silent on the limit with no tyre squeal unlike RE003's. The Michelins are worth paying extra for if you can afford it. But for their price, RE003s are excellent.
The RE003 isn't a direct competitor to the Pilot Sport 4 The Goodyear Asymmetric 5, Continental PremiumContact6 are more direct rivals to the Pilot Sport 4
What might be a good tyre for you to test is the Goodyear Eagle F1 Sport Not the F1 asymmetric 5 or 6 or super Sport but the "F1 Sport" Reason being it seems to only be available in the Australian/New Zealand and south East Asia pacific market. So there doesn't seem to be any review videos for it other then Australian and Malaysian promo videos. It's marketed as a UHP tyres and lots of customers reviews are quite good but so far I haven't seen 1 proper review or test for this tyre.
@@KiwiCarLife I think so. from my understanding the dry grip and responce is not quite as good as the PS4 or Re003 but the wet grip and tread life is up there with the PS4 and the price is even cheaper then the RE003, seems to be deals everywhere on this tyre in Australia
@@KiwiCarLife Also the Continental Max Contact MC6 also seems like a good low cost UHP tyre that like F1 sport only seems to be available in Australia/NZ Oceania and south East Asian countries atm. I think testing these and the F1 sport would be best cause all the tyre tests seems to be american or European so can't find any good comparison tests
Had both re003 n ps4. Re003 so much nicer to drive n it absorbs road harshness better than the ps4. Change to the ps5 last month, now on re004. Never look back.. Re004 hands down better in every ways. The best part is how smoother it feels compared to the ps5. Thumbs up bridgestone.
i tested the older ps2 and ps3 and the goodyear eagles. ps and eagles perf very similar, though the ps wore down much sooner. also the older bridgestone i had factory fitted. that was CRAP. car wouldnt stay straight/true even after extra alignment. also later on one of the tyres developed a side bulch without hitting it anywhere etc. never bridgestones again
when is the swaybar video coming😂? personally I have had both these tyres. re003 are ok but the ps4s are so much better in every respect and in all conditions. Also they last alot longer.
Wonder if you've heard of Dunlop Sp Sport Fm800s, I did a bit of reading before buying they seem to be pretty dang good value for money, I paid 600$ for 4 fitted
I've run them as well. They work well for an economy tyre. Feel sporty and more responsive than eco tyres but offer less grip than RE003s. They don't roll over on their sidewalls as much as other eco tyres. Very confidence inspiring and predictable.
I drive 100kms everyday and need a good mileage tyre that doesnt puts a hole in my pocket, can you suggest me what tyres i should go for, potenza sport or re003 or turanza senrenity plus very confused as i dont wanna compromise safety or fuel efficiency 😊
See I think if you're thrashing any car in the wet around a roundabout then you're silly... There's no such thing as a "good wet grip tyre" because they all are worse in the wet than in the dry
Yeah RE003s are twitchy in the wet. Respectfully disagree about no such thing as good wet grip tyre. PS4/PS5 + other 200tw tyres offer a, lot more than RE003s in the wet
@@christopherjohnston6343 I've driven re003's and ps4's back to back in the wet and I can hardly tell the difference. They both give out very progressively
@@KiwiCarLife absolute grip limits are meant to be a bit higher for ps4s. Especially braking. I like the communicativeness of RE003s but in general my MX5 friends are not a fan of them. Currently on Falken Azenis and they grip way better in the wet but I'm aware that grip will Probably go a bit faster once they go
RE003 is mehh average. Squeals a lot around hard cornering and not as confident inspired around high speed. Final verdict is you'll get what you paid for. If you didn't squealing the RE003 then you're not cornering hard enough 😆
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RE003’s do pretty well for what’s an old, old tyre now. The buy three, get one free deal for them is always a winner too. The RE004 is out overseas, no idea why Bridgestone/Firestone haven’t bought it out here yet.
I’m using Goodyear asymmetric at the moment and I really like them. Nicely balanced tyre.
Nice, yeah keen for the re004 and PS5 when it launches here
Yeah the GYA5 seems to be the best replacement for RE003s currently
The problem with Goodyear Asymmetric is that there is a big step in sidewall stiffness between 17" and 18". I had the 18" versions before and they were good, predictable with good feedback, but apparently the 17" versions of the Asymmetric are much softer and rather vague. It's a shame we can't get Eagle F1 Super Sport in the smaller sizes. I'm very happy with the Potenza S007A at the moment though (hopefully the replacement Potenza Sport is just as good, even though it is a little lighter construction), the S007A has the same excellent taut sidewalls and road feedback as the RE003 (or any Potenza, Bridgestone are good about not compromising on the essentials of a sports tyre), but with *much, much* more grip.
None of the horrible vagueness from the 17" Pilot Sport 4 ST, those were awful IMO, a total "jelly tyre" as Jonathon Benson from TyreReviews calls soft sidewalls tyres (maybe the 18" version is not as bad, thankfully, but even so in Benson's tests he confirms even the European version of the Pilot Sport 4, which is different than our "ST" version from SE Asia, does not feel sporty compared to the competition despite the name). It's the combination of the PS4's very wide tread and very soft sidewalls, which means the tread is very poorly controlled on the rim under lateral loads and exhibits unsettling lateral oscillations (the Pilot Sport 4 is mighty under braking or traction thanks to that, though, for people who care more about that), notwithstanding the lack of road feedback means you can't tell what the tyres are doing, unlike the excellent feedback which normal, rigid sports tyres provide!
RE004 could be the go-to when it arrives as it's still engineered by Bridgestone Japan (like the S007A and RE003), unlike the Potenza Sport which is now engineered by Bridgestone in Italy. It should have a more competitive price than the Potenza Sport (mind you, the Potenza Sport already has a pretty reasonable price compared to the Eagle F1 Super Sport or Pilot Sport 4S, *and* the Potenza is the only one that is available in smaller sizes).
@@TassieLorenzo I think Potenza sport was minimum 18s last I checked - otherwise I would have got them for my Integra instead of RE003s.
@@christopherjohnston6343 I've got the 225/45 R17 for the S007A, which is also available in the Potenza Sport (in Australia). :) The RE004 should be available down to 15" when it finally arrives though.
Just entered the season with the new RE004s and I'm happy with them so far!
Nice! Will have to get a set for mine to see how they compare
Woo! I just bought the Pilots a month ago on my stock wheels and - oh my goodness! WORLDS difference from my economy (Michelin) Primacy’s! I love these tyres!!!
Oh yeah man they'll make a big difference
@@KiwiCarLife I couldn’t be happier! 😁 Thank you for the 5 upgrades idea and taking the time out of your day to respond to my numerous comments here.
I'm in Australia and have gone through 3 sets of Pilot Sport 4 tyres on my Golf. I like them but I've just changed to RE003's because even with regular balancing, rotations and alignment I wore through them very quickly.
I find the RE003's a bit harder, louder, but a bit more direct in steering feel, interested to see if they last longer.
On another note the Pilot Sport 5 just got released which seems to perform identically to the 4 in grip but Michelin are claiming better durability.
Yeah tbh any performance summer tyre is gonna wear pretty quickly coz it's a soft compound for better grip. I'll probably get 30,000km out of my re003's before needing a chance. They're starting to get low
Would love to know how they are holding up for you?
ive been waiting for a side by side comparison of these two tyres for ages!!! so thankfull to see this video!
All good!
I like RE003s. Have had them on 4 different cars but they are seriously outclassed now.
Hankook RS4 (Z232) is the performance buy at the moment in NZ. Its cheaper than RE003s - wears well and has a looot more grip. It does take a lot of work to get heat into them now that we are not in summer but even cold they offer similar performance to Re003s
A lot sharper than mushy all rounders like PS4 too.
Yeah I'm sure but I'm happy with mine
@@KiwiCarLife but you like a bit of luxury and balance. The Pilot Sport is, basically the accord of tyres. Does everything well. Doesn't sacrifice comfort like most sport tyres do.
It's debatable how usable RS4s are on public roads. My Miata mates can but they are all pretty intense with his hard they push.
How are the Hancooks in the wet? Had RE003s and now have PS3s on my car, the RE003 was much more pointed on turn in while the PS3 rolls onto the sidewall a lot more, but the wet grip is so many lightyears ahead on the PS3 that it makes me struggle to want to go back to RE003s instead of PS4s for my next set.
Those civic RS wheels actually looks surprisingly nice on the accord 🥶
Haha yeah they look decent aye
I am a fan of PS4, have them on my car, you missed one very important comparison and that is braking distance, PS4 really pull up well wet or dry and that is what gives me the ultimate confidence in these tyres. In the past I have had Potenza's on my other cars and I like them also, what is the actual price difference these days anyway? for me I feel the small amount extra to pay is well worth it.
Yeah probably
Yeah RE003s are nervous in the wet
Big fan of the PS4s, have them on my Euro atm. Could not fault them. Did have RE003s on my WRX but switch them to the PS4s and felt substantially quieter and also lasted longer. About a $100 difference between both for all 4 so not too much difference. Both solids options but I’ve found tyres are something you don’t want to skimp on.
Yeah agree
absolutely love your car bro! Recently got my 07 cl9 accord and love it. Looking to upgrade and modify it but having a bit of trouble on where to find a lot of the things. Also not to sure what I should get to start my build as such. Your channel is such a help especially with all the reviews and everything. So happy to watch a video of yours at the end of a day.
Air intake. HDI
Glad you're enjoying the videos! If you want maximum gains, try get an ecu reflash from @kflash_nz and get an intake and plm header
Always wondered about this. Appreciate the video. got my 4x re003 for 800 ish. 4xPS4 were around 1100 at the time.
Yep sounds about the same as mine
Where did you manage to get the re003 for $800?
@@logan20014 direct from bridge stone. They have deals all the time
@@logan20014 i just got 4 for $707 from costco. if i didnt have a weird size (195/55/16) i could of saved and extra $200 almost
I feel like I'm the only person not bothered by quietness since I'm blasting music every time I drive
Lol
Great test. I switched from RE003s to PS4's on my STI and the difference was noticeable but not massive. The PS4's are completely silent on the limit with no tyre squeal unlike RE003's. The Michelins are worth paying extra for if you can afford it. But for their price, RE003s are excellent.
Agree, that's a good summary
@@KiwiCarLife Oh and the PS5 has just been released so that will be even better again.
@@aydan2914 ooh that'll be exciting
Hey there great video once again. I remember a while back you said you were gonna do a skunk 2 intake manifold you still gonna do that or nah?
Don't think so man, happy with it how it is
The RE003 isn't a direct competitor to the Pilot Sport 4
The Goodyear Asymmetric 5, Continental PremiumContact6 are more direct rivals to the Pilot Sport 4
Yes thank you for this information
@@KiwiCarLife No problem.... Falken Azenis FK510 are another worthy tyre which are also brilliant for the money
What might be a good tyre for you to test is the Goodyear Eagle F1 Sport
Not the F1 asymmetric 5 or 6 or super Sport but the "F1 Sport"
Reason being it seems to only be available in the Australian/New Zealand and south East Asia pacific market.
So there doesn't seem to be any review videos for it other then Australian and Malaysian promo videos.
It's marketed as a UHP tyres and lots of customers reviews are quite good but so far I haven't seen 1 proper review or test for this tyre.
Yeah true could be good
@@KiwiCarLife I think so. from my understanding the dry grip and responce is not quite as good as the PS4 or Re003 but the wet grip and tread life is up there with the PS4 and the price is even cheaper then the RE003, seems to be deals everywhere on this tyre in Australia
@@KiwiCarLife
Also the Continental Max Contact MC6 also seems like a good low cost UHP tyre that like F1 sport only seems to be available in Australia/NZ Oceania and south East Asian countries atm.
I think testing these and the F1 sport would be best cause all the tyre tests seems to be american or European so can't find any good comparison tests
Had both re003 n ps4. Re003 so much nicer to drive n it absorbs road harshness better than the ps4. Change to the ps5 last month, now on re004. Never look back.. Re004 hands down better in every ways. The best part is how smoother it feels compared to the ps5. Thumbs up bridgestone.
Glad to hear you're enjoying it!
When they sell Pilot sport 5 tyres cheaper than pilot sport 4 on black friday sales, I bought pilot sport 5 for sure!
Nice!. I'm sure they're fantastic
i tested the older ps2 and ps3 and the goodyear eagles. ps and eagles perf very similar, though the ps wore down much sooner. also the older bridgestone i had factory fitted. that was CRAP. car wouldnt stay straight/true even after extra alignment. also later on one of the tyres developed a side bulch without hitting it anywhere etc. never bridgestones again
Ahh yeah after an experience like that I'd understand
kiwi accent never cease to make me laugh.. bitter or better? :D
Lol
Thanks my friend, from Portugal
All good!
I run Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s and the cl9 rails corners
Nice
Indy 500s are actually rebranded RE003s
still got the jappa from factory on the crown gotta get new ones before the deep south winter.
Haha nice
Oh yes civic RS on jack stands is present
Hahahahah
Price wise the RE003… are a great tyre
I think so
when is the swaybar video coming😂? personally I have had both these tyres. re003 are ok but the ps4s are so much better in every respect and in all conditions. Also they last alot longer.
Dunno, unlikely I'm gonna do sway bars I think
Wonder if you've heard of Dunlop Sp Sport Fm800s, I did a bit of reading before buying they seem to be pretty dang good value for money, I paid 600$ for 4 fitted
Yeah the SP Sports we run on our Jazzes, good tyre, the problem is they really don't last. Very soft compound
I've run them as well. They work well for an economy tyre. Feel sporty and more responsive than eco tyres but offer less grip than RE003s. They don't roll over on their sidewalls as much as other eco tyres. Very confidence inspiring and predictable.
I drive 100kms everyday and need a good mileage tyre that doesnt puts a hole in my pocket, can you suggest me what tyres i should go for, potenza sport or re003 or turanza senrenity plus very confused as i dont wanna compromise safety or fuel efficiency 😊
Turanza will last the longest
@@KiwiCarLife thanks but I read reviews for turanza, except wear life it isn't good
Wait where are you buying RE003s that are cheaper than pilot sport 4s? Everywhere I've been looking the PS4 are cheaper
Then get the PS4 then haha
RE003 is cheaper than PS4 in Aus
Bro k24A2 block with k20a euro r head how much torque and power will this engine give ??
I dunno? More than mine obviously. Do it yourself and find out
@@KiwiCarLife will it give more than cl7 euro r ???
What about the price difference between these two?
Pretty similar in general, most sites I saw the PS4 was slightly more
What’s the price difference in nz?
Not totally sure, I believe the re003's are around $350, and the ps4's are around $450
3:20 RIP NZ petrol prices above $3
RE004 still isn't out in Aus.
I'm running RE003 in my auto Euro. Wet grip around tricky round-a-bouts is bad.
See I think if you're thrashing any car in the wet around a roundabout then you're silly... There's no such thing as a "good wet grip tyre" because they all are worse in the wet than in the dry
Yeah RE003s are twitchy in the wet. Respectfully disagree about no such thing as good wet grip tyre. PS4/PS5 + other 200tw tyres offer a, lot more than RE003s in the wet
@@christopherjohnston6343 I've driven re003's and ps4's back to back in the wet and I can hardly tell the difference. They both give out very progressively
@@KiwiCarLife absolute grip limits are meant to be a bit higher for ps4s. Especially braking. I like the communicativeness of RE003s but in general my MX5 friends are not a fan of them.
Currently on Falken Azenis and they grip way better in the wet but I'm aware that grip will Probably go a bit faster once they go
I'm pretty chuffed to get my re003 for $138 each.
Yeah they’re a good tyre
should have done a braking test.
Frankly I doubt there would be much difference, but yeah would have been good to do
More vbox 0-100 races with other cars!
Would be good!
RE003 is mehh average. Squeals a lot around hard cornering and not as confident inspired around high speed. Final verdict is you'll get what you paid for. If you didn't squealing the RE003 then you're not cornering hard enough 😆
I found both the PS4 and re003 squealed about the same, i.e. not much
Hurry up and supercharge your car before I do LOL
Don't think it's gonna happen sorry