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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- Thought I would do a quick update on the Michelin Pilot Sport 5 Tyres, that I currently have installed on my M140i.
It's been a while since I last talked about them more in depth, and I felt that now was a good time to give you a long term update.
How do they feel now they have some wear and tear on them, and would I put them on my car again?
I hope you enjoy the video, and I will see you again In the next one!
Road Reg. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
PS5 on my tuned M140 here, fully agree on the wet and dry grip. Great tyre. Super Sports were literally dangerous 😅
Super sports were fine until you wore them down to 1/32 and then in the wet, they were dangerous.
They are not if you get them heated! And on M140 you’re only at 300 something horses and most likely run on flat. And ROF is rubbish anyway, but unless you’re willing to spend money for a decent suspension upgrade so you can run ‘normal’ tires you need to buy ROF. Try Intrax & non ROF and you’ll be surprised even in the wet.
Ordered four PS5s for my Lexus, getting them put on this Friday... cannot wait
They will be awesome !
You mean PS5 or the newest PS s5?
My new 140 came with PS5 which made me very happy.
Long time fan of the pilot sports having used them on a variety of rear drivers since I first experienced PS2 and said goodbye to Pirelli Pzero forever. 😂
The wet grip is so important. I’m uk too and it’s totally worth sacrificing the nth degree of dry grip and even feel for the noticeable improvement in traction.
On the Goodyears. My wife used to have those on her Mk4 Supra and they really were special. In the dry.
I've got Michelin PS5's on my BMW G31 20d and I love the grip and handling in wet conditions. They're more silent (duh!) and more comfortable than the RFT Pirelli Cinturato P7's that the car came with from factory, but they also add a bit more resistance so the fuel consumption has gone up a bit. But I can live with that as they're better than the P7's in every other aspect.
Nice, that’s good to know. I think it’s clear that you literally can’t go wrong with the PS5 tyres!
Err, all road cars have a diff 😉, I assume you meant an open diff?... scratch that, I heard you say later a LSD, that's not a factory fit is it?
How many miles had your car done on those tyres?
I agree that wet grip is important, personally I think a little more so than dry grip (even though I track my M3 occasionally, last time on Monday at a rain soaked Bedford!), I'm also in the UK so I get what you mean about the whether! lol
I have them on my highly modified mk4 golf fwd, I couldn't ask for more in the dry, I kind of wish they where a little better in the wet but they are still really good :)
Changed from OEM MPSS (5mm+ still left but edges worn and in the cold/damp they were crap, but EPIC in summer!) to PS5. SO disappointing as they're clearly a Touring tyre. So much understeer, no feel and quick wearing rears which I changed to GY AS6. Night and day! Huge wet/cold grip and SO quiet, and sporty feel.
Wow really!? I’m surprised about that tbh! You know what? I might have to try these AS6’s for myself on my next round of tyres!
You bought the wrong Michelins. You needed the Sport 4S. They are better than the Sport 5.
Its nice when users make such review videos which is helpful.
I agree. I came from ad08r , and before that was ps4s. The ps5 is pretty good on both cold day, raining and also dry. It holds up to my 342whp 500nm fk8. Ill be going to track this friday, will see how it holds up to track abuse
i used it on truck (ps5- skoda opctavia rs 22hp 390Nm) . I don't recommend. Unfortunately, it has worn down a lot, and its sidewall is not stiff enough. I ended up putting on a Nankang AR-1, which is fantastic on the track :)
@@makostesztas I’ve just used my ps5 on track, and because it was wet and raining i was the fast on the track. All the other semi slick car just kept spinning. Of course it would be different if it was on a dry day.
Yes ,wet condition is another thing :)
@@upbeatmantis86 So you say that the PS5 are better in wet than dry?
@@DavidZangy PS5 are good both in the dry and wet. I recently just track on a wet day (Ill post it soon), its pretty good , i had traction on 50-60% throttle input. If i was on semi slicks, my car would have gone sideways already.
However if you heavily track your car in the dry, i wouldn’t recommend. But if you only drive hard on the streets and plan to drive from winter to summer, then the PS5 is pretty good for its price and durability. This 7th Sept ill do a track day on dry weather and will see how it goes after 10-15 continuous lap
Man do I hate those tires. Got them on my M3 after they were recommended by nearly everyone and they wore out much faster than expected and don't handle that well... I'll be going back to Dunlop Direzza III's soon.
That’s a shame. They are fairly soft. The Dunlop’s will be more dry focused, no?
Yes the PS5 is more a comfort oriented tyre and NOT a sport type as the PSS or PS4S
Direzza is a pure track tyre
PS4S or PSS are somehow between PS5 and Cup2/Direzza
😂
I blew the sidewall and got bulges on new 2 sets of brand new PS4S tyres within 2 months.. talk about bad luck. switched to PS5 and it’s been amazing. quieter, similar sportiness and much stronger sidewalls compared to the PS4S. just got another new pair to replace my fronts today!
Wow that’s crazy. Yeah they’re seriously impressive!
I heard that run flats are easier to get bulge
@@pawe8713 That makes no sense seeing as they have far stiffer sidewalls, they are more likely to crack wheels though!
Very disappointing considering the Pilot Sport 4S was a absolute beast. I'll continue sticking with my Ling Langs
Why? You enjoy your Ling Langs.. 😀
Sport 5 are the replacement for the Sport 4. The Sport 4S are still better than the Sport 5.
@@JohnWilliamsGTSExactly
Was not sure between PS5 and PS4S for my 2016 seat cupra 5f. Now I'm gonna go for the PS5
You won’t regret it :)
I threw sport as4s on my x1, in Canada. Good for all season but still take them off in the winter for my winters. Great tire for everyday you have to go super sports for nearly $600 a tire here for the high performance ones.
Dope car too, wished they still made 1ers for North America. I miss my 09 135
What handling mods have you got? Are they Bilstein b8 shocks I spot? What else? Cheers
Falken are just as good as Michelin and Bridgestone only cheaper and I get more mileage out of them compared to the Bridgestone Potenza Sport
Yes but Bridg get more mileage, and breaking / dry grip and feeling of PS4S is outrageous
How many miles you done on them Reg? They look in really good condition.
6/8,000 so far
I have noticed yours are crumbling on the edges, mine looks similar after 12k miles. I wonder what's the reason for it?
I have not noticed that! I will have a proper look when I’m cleaning the wheels next time.
How was the ride quality? Some sidewalls are so stiff it compromises the ride quality on a daily driver.
Very, very good. These don’t have stiff sidewalls. They’re marginally stiffer than the PS4’s but it’s not really noticeable.
How many miles?
I may have missed it in the video, but how many miles do you estimate that you will get from the rears? I am running Assymeric 6, and they are a fantastic performing tyre but they are wearing relatively fast even with a sedate driving style. 7500 miles and they are almost on the wear bars (It doesn't help that they had only 6mm when new)
Probs at least 10,000/12,000 depending on driving style. Yeah the starting tread definitely doesn’t help!
@@roadreg1820 I will have to do some sums to see which works out the best value as the Goodyears are considerably cheaper. Performance wise there doesn't seem much to choose.
I have read professional reviews that the PS5 are redesigned PS4 with focus on wear performance making the PS5 wear the best in class but possibly not much improvement on anything else (not that you can improve on much other than maybe the noise levels).
The PS3 were good and made it well worth the money for the grip/wear, the PS4 were only just worth getting as the wear was poor but grip excellent, the PS5 are meant to correct that wear issue and should last (they say) for about 30k. But obviously where, what and how you drive will influence that.
@@Darfyddii had PS4 and they lasted me about 50k km or about 30k miles. My car is lowered so it has a slightly more negative camber than stock. I’d say the PS4 was great in terms of wear for a UHP tyre. The front lasted longer, but not by much. But then again, I use the car to commute to work, meaning there’s a lot of traffic. If the car is driven spiritedly everyday, then of course the tyres would wear a lot faster.
No way are you driving your car sedately, lol (unless your tracking is out), I've got GY A6s on my 330d (lots of torque) and so far I've done about 9k miles on the rear tyres, with plenty of tread left.
Thinking about getting these for my GT86, wonder if I can still hang the ass with the PS5 when the mood takes me.
Dam right ya can.
@@roadreg1820 have you a GT86? I’ve been trying to find PS5 reviews on GT86/BRZ but not had much look this evening
@@ShanesAutos No but I know a bit about the GT86. I am confident they will work well on that car. I am glad you came across this review 😃
It is exactly what OT mentioned. RWD + PS5 = Best for wet traction. It will give you a lot of security on your GT86.
You can push the corner much harder on your wet and dry, with a trade off of precise handling, a bit too comforted steering, grippy with understeer. Most importantly, your rear won't slide as regularly as you might like, especially when driving an 86.
Moot tire here in the states, since Michelin does not want U.S. to have them, at all it seems, and even IF and when they do, they will never let us have the 215/40-17 size which is PLENTIFUL over there in the UK, and in Europe. ☹👎
I'm new to driving and have a Golf MK8. I've been looking at the PS5 as my new tyre but they only seem to do XL in the 225/45/R17. Will they be good tyres or should I find a tyre that isn't reinforced? Sorry if this is a silly question but it's all new to me. Thanks!
It will be fine :)
@@roadreg1820 brilliant, thanks!
I already seen lots of videos being positive on the PS5's. Ordered a set of 4 to get on my Abarth 595 Competizione!
Michelin is not the best. I highly recommend GoodYear Eagle F1 Asym. 6.
I would like to try them next, possibly.
Goodyear asymmetric 6 👌
Nice!
+1 they're great in the wet
I like the F1A6 better cos it's a much quieter tire. The PS5 is very good grip in the wet and dry. It's the best in the wet and dry. Just too noisy for me. Wear rate is a bit better on the PS5 too. F1A6 wears a little more than PS5. Comfort wise they are quite similar surprisingly. But noise is a deal breaker for me
@@KeefeLoke Interesting to hear, I wanted the PS5's on my 330d, but couldn't get them in time, so went with GY A6s, been pretty decent :)
u should put ps4s back front ps5 that what i did on my gti 7 cs back ps5 front ps4
Goodyear f1 supersports really good in the wet and dry.
Not as good as the PS5’s. On the M140i anyway. I had them
@roadreg1820 I have the pilot supersports on my m135i thats got 600bhp, nearly kill me in the wet. I've been told to put goodyear supersports on 😂 not going to do that now then ha 😅
@@shaneevans774I’ve got ps5 on my 500bhp m135i really good tyre
Just ordered PS5 for my bmw 430d xDrive Stage 1 plus.
Very nice. You’re gonna have a lot of grip!
@@roadreg1820 I love to drive 266 km/h on the Bosnian autobahn/highway 165 mph, I want to see if it can maybe go faster. My last tires were PS4.
Uniroyal rainsports are amazing in the wet
I’ve heard a lot about them. I would definitely favour the PS5’s over those as they have incredible dry grip too.
@roadreg1820 it's kinda in the name, rainsports better in the wet tyre without rain in its name better in the dry 🤷♂️
Is PS5 a run flat tyre?
@@enterpriseinfinite4900 not to my knowledge
Just put Michellin Primacy 3 245/40 R19 on my BMW 530i
I dont know much about tires, just know that Michellin are known for tires.
Could I have done better?
Depends on what kinda driving you do, and what you want from the tyre. I think they are really good tyres for a 5 series with big profiles.
@@roadreg1820 i drive like an 80 year old so no where push the car to its limits. Normal commute is 80km a day with 60km on highway at speeds between 90-120kmph. Once or twice a year, I will drive through the Autobahn and I drive at 180-220kmph.
The label said the Michellin Primacy is rated C on Fuel Efficiency, A on Grip and 69db. For me the most important is Grip(Safety) followed by low tyre noise and fuel efficiency is a bonus.
What other tyres are out there that does better than the Primacy 3?
Thank you for your advice.
@@FABM27 I would say the Primacy 4+ or GoodYear A Symmetric 6 would be ideal
@@roadreg1820 primacy 4 is not made for 19" unfortunately so had to settle for primacy 3
@@FABM27 ah that’s fair enough. Still great tyres!
You are comparing very much different tyres. Pilot sport should be compared to Goodyear Asymmetric and not Supersport. Supersport are more track oriented tyres and of course they have less grip in wet
I’m comparing them because that’s what I had before, so that’s what I have to compare against.
@@roadreg1820 ok, just saying 😃
@@ljakrtsh1 I am curious about the GYAS6’s.. I might try them next time I need to change tyres. They sound really good!
@@roadreg1820 I bought Asymmetric 6 few weeks ago...so far they feel great, very silent and good grip
@@roadreg1820 I don't know if my last comment was uploaded so I will write again...I bought Asymmetric 6 few weeks ago and they seem to be great so far, good grip and very silent, they have great scores on every test I saw
Weather is Horrific 🤔 well it is the UK 😂😂
Haha 😝
what psi you running?
I think around 34 f and 36 rear (roughly)