The historical context of this is that Truman misunderstood Oppenheimer. When he said he felt he "had blood on his hands" he was talking about his fears of millions dying in the future because of a nuclear holocaust. He tried to caution Truman against an arms race with the Soviets.
I agree 100%, that is the main thing that draws me and did draw me to this film. Furthermore, I think it's a testament to how great I mean magnificent of an actor that Cillian Murphy is. An outstanding film produced by an outstanding producer with an outstanding performance by an outstanding actor. Ludwood Garrison also did a phenomenal job with the soundtrack of this film. I genuinely believe that music can make or break a movie and Oppenheimer has, in my opinion, the greatest OST in all of film history. Every single track from the OST fits so well with the scene that it's in. It's unbelievable. Oppenheimer is an 11/10.
@@Psyfi85 Sorry, I hate to be THAT guy, but actually the Battle of Verdun was in 1916, well before the US joined the war in 1917. That being said, yes, Harry S. Truman was an artillery officer towards the end of WWI.
When he leans forward you can almost see a pain in his eyes, being like I carry the burden of guilt, not you. But being a proud, pragmatic stubborn man (and the President of the nation) he has to stand by his decision and can not openly talk about his feelings nor is he considerate of those of others, so he resorts to callousness and being demeaning to Oppenheimer instead, basically telling him to suck it up. A short but amazing performance.
There is no guilt in his eyes. He didn't feel nothing. The scene is made to tell you how hard someone in a leadership position needs to be. He is mocking oppheimemer.
@@ArmyKiillersh Yes that's his outward appearance. But I see a kind of weariness in Oldman's performance where he lets some pain and bitterness seep through like it's a defense mechanism.
@v.konings1222 I agree with this interpretation especially when you can see his lips slightly tremble as if he is realizing himself the guilt he has on himself for his actions. Only to quickly become invredibly hardened turning that guilt into callousness ending with insulting Oppenheimer.
@@dan5626 Yeah, Truman was very insecure about the qualities of himself he deemed feminine and spoke about how being bullied and called a sissy as an child really effected him.
I would like to point out that in this scene President Truman is played up as a horrible person but I’m going to play devils advocate and explain some of the history. Truman by all means was a complete nobody when FDR selected him as his running mate and it was an incredibly odd decision at the time. Truman was always thought to be slow and a social outcast. But that’s exactly who FDR needed at the time. FDR was dealing with the great depression and looming Second World War. He needed a VP who was going to bend the knee to every single policy decision he made. Not a single person thought Truman was going to be president when FDR selected him. Welp fast forward to 1945 and FDR just died. By some miracle making Truman the president of the United States. Truman made the decision to drop the bomb based off casualty reports form the battle of Okinawa. Which was the bloodiest battle for the US in WW2. However he chose to warn both cites before the bombings but these warnings were ignored. It’s well regarded that Truman had extreme guilt about his decision to use the bomb. He lost sleep, because physically ill when hearing of the injuries and overall changed because of it. In this scene I like to think that while to Oppenheimer he is a horrible person it’s more of his PTSD coming out. Because in his eyes no one cares who built the bomb but rather who dropped it. Overall it’s quite fascinating.
Overall, Truman is not a president in history I harbor much respect for. But I do agree in the assessment of Truman feeling appalled to hear that Oppenheimer of all people felt guilty about the bomb. You see Oppenheimer spent 4 whole years convincing himself of the need to build this bomb and that they had to beat the Nazis to it when in reality it was never about that. Remember the scene when the writer that was hired for Los Alamos explained to the group of people that the bomb was no longer necessary with Germanys surrender? Yet Robert all the same advocated for its use against the Japanese. It really is a horrible revelation in the power that man was given to destroy themselves.
@@ryanjw15 He’s by no means the best president in US history but then again who would be? He was made president after FDR died who at the time was considered the best president in US history. He also wasn’t elected either. The shoes he had to bear were incredibly large. However I do believe everything happens for a reason. And while we can judge Truman for using the bomb it probably saved far more lives than even he could comprehend. Once the genie had been let out of the bottle no one wanted to use nuclear weapons again. Everyone was terrified of them. Making nuclear war much more likely once the Soviets had the bomb.
That's a really cool take on this scene. Truman's guilt is eating him up and this crybaby scientist has a hurt conscience just because he built the bomb. Interesting.
I imagine Truman kind of had a sort of “why the hell is this my problem?” thing going. The decision whether or not to drop the bombs is one of the most complicated military decisions ever made. People around him were even divided some supported and some dissented. The stress of having to make that decision and all the implications that come with it probably made Oppenheimer’s “crybaby attitude” seem like insignificant nonsense compared to the stress Truman was dealing with.
I love how when he says " i feel like i have blood on my hands " truman just leans forward, doesn't say a word and takes out a tiny towel, basically saying " then clean it " without actually saying a single word.
The man has a fucking point. Oppenheimer gives himself more importance than he really has. Even when he was feeling guilty, the root of his feelings were very selfish: the fact that he thinks that anybody really gives a shit that he 'makes' the bomb...
@@PAPERBOYSUPER Oppenheimer didn't have the stomach for anything. He was weak man. Truman had the courage to engage in total warfare. A lesson our country as forgotten.
@@prod7906 bruh they fucking nuked a civilian population…. 200 thousand Innocent men, women and children Say what you will to justify it, but feeling ZERO remorse for it is down right satanic
@PAPERBOYSUPER i don't think he thinks anyone cares who made the bomb. But he has internalized guilt because if he didn't make the bomb in the first place, they wouldn't have had a bomb to drop that day. It's like if you sold a gun to someone, and they go later that day and shoot up a school or something. It's an absolute tragedy that isn't your fault, however you would feel guilt to an extent because it wouldn't have happened if you didn't sell them the gun. It's guilt over the butterfly affect of events, not objective blame. In my opinion at least, that's how I interpreted his feelings
Truman: _”You clearly don’t know who you’re talking to, so let me clue you in. I am not in danger. I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets shot, and you think that of me? No! I am the one who knocks!”_
Oppie knew better than anybody what that bomb would do. Its development was a testimony to his ego. Now he wants to cry about it to the man who actually had to make the decision.
I can't imagine the feeling and having the guilt that Oppenheimer had on his shoulders since that day after he realized what he had become and what he had created forever changed the world or destroyed it, rather, it's beautifully displayed in a horrific way by Cillian Murphy and that is the mark of an outstanding actor. I've said before that Cillian didn't just play Oppenheimer. He was J. Robert Oppenheimer.
From what i read, even without developing the bomb Oppenheimer was an asshole in his personal life. But that fact that he built the City Melter 8000 and then was sad that it did what he designed it. Even afterwards, once they entered the 50s and so on, when Oppenheimer did interviews and whatnot, he kept playing victim. I'm not saying he didn't have the right to feel bad about it, but he milked the shit out of it for the rest of his life
Bro he built it because he had no choice. He might be declared a fucking communist. Last thing that he would want. He was getting paid, that's second and lastly, he didn't think it was going to be used. He thought it's purpose was only to scare off America's enemies. Read the fucking history book.
@sassythesasquatch4147 that his bomb did exactly what he designed it to do and yet he acted like "omg bombs KILL people?!" Like he didn't know he was going to build a mega weapon that would kill thousands. He knew what he was doing
Gary Oldman is truly one of the best actors in history in my opinion. While Oppenheimer obviously has tons of phenomenal actors. Gary Oldman felt like the only one to take the screen from Cillian Murphy (i know some will disagree, but that's perfectly fine!).
Good ol Gary being his old 90's villain self again in this scene without any doubt but what he said in this scene was actually true when u think about it
I think he showed that piece of cloth to whipe away his tears to symbolyze that he was going to take away his feelings of guilt but he does it so brutally that I wonder if he did it out of compassion, or if he really was that BASED especially what he says after oppen walks out
Harry trumen was very practical man although we cant justify destruction by nuclear bombs but he said clearly in his interview he did not Feel ashamed Because if he cant give order to drop nuclear bombs to 2 cities japan will not surrender for Another 2-3 years nearly 1-2 millio more deaths will occur on both japanese and american side including Japanese civilians he just prevent it and choose Nuclear bombs to Cause Minimum damage and End the war.
What's amazing about a film like this is thinking something didnt happen then learning it actually did! Some filmakers take so make freedoms from the source material that i think igs hurts the mivie. Then you have Oppenheimer filled wirj extraordinary scenes that actually happened!
Apparently the one group Oppenheimer was terrible at dealing with was politicians. Some wonder if it since the ones he dealt with saw straight through his trickles to be charming and he never realised
@@leonconnelly5303It’s pretty much word for word from the book, which depicts this scene as really happening. I forget what the source was in the book (I’m guessing Oppenheimer’s recollections? Which of course doesn’t mean it’s a fact), but this scene was definitely not made up for the movie.
It's entirely possible that Truman's putting on a front for Oppenheimer, trying to seem less concerned about the consequences of what he did than he really was. After all, why would the President of the United States, the most powerful man on earth, show weakness around someone he hardly knows (and who probably didn't like him that much to begin with)?
@@gelchert That’s a good point. One of these days I’m going to get around to reading the McCullough Truman biography. I’d love to have more insight into Truman.
"Success has many fathers - failure is an orphan" Oppenheimers masters were all status hounds devoid of empathy. Gary Oldmans presidential portrayal is pathologically narcissistic but accurate.
They try and play this like he’s a jerk. However, he just tried to take Oppenheimer’s guilt and put it on himself. That’s not a jerk move. The crybaby part was a littlebit much though.
Well he didn't drop it either. He just gave order. People that flew the bombers dropped it. And only because it was built first by people like Oppenheimer. Truman was just intermediary. People in hiroshima didn't care about neither Openheimer, nor Truman. People in hiroshima and nagasaki just knew it was the usa/americans.
The problem is that Oppenheimer is making the situation all about himself. Oblivious to how other people might be feeling about the bomb. Truman at this point thinks that if anyone is to be blamed; it should be him; so for Oppenheimer to make this all about himself and his guilt disgusts Truman who is currently carrying his own.
@@TheAmazingHoho576 Oppenheimer definitely thinks he's just expressing his guilt here. He's just ignorant about how other people feel; that is the running theme of this movie. Oppenheimer, while having good intentions hurts the people around him due to unwillingness to engage in their feelings, instead only focusing on himself.
I disagree with the narrator. Oldman's portrayal illustrates Truman's willingness to own it. He knows how many Americans were saved by dropping the bomb, and he has completely accepted responsibility for it and is prepared to be judged for it, even if he isn't 100% sure he did the right thing.
Truman did mock Oppenheimer with a hanky and also called him a crybaby but then again a World War 1 veteran who had to make the decision to bomb an entire city probably wouldn't be too delicate with an upset scientist.
@@rustyrussell2537 To be fair to Truman, Oppenheimer complained to him several times before Truman lost his temper. But with a movie you have to condense it into a single scene.
Crazy considering Oppenheimer’s entire life is literally him being a power hungry old man who can’t get over the fact that he’s not the most important person in the room
@@gachapinCUEVAit doesn’t matter if the boom killed soldiers. But 99% were not soldiers, they were just innocent civilians like me, you, your mom, your daughter, your sister, your kids, your grandmother… Attacking civilians is a terrorist act, under international law
Gary Oldman, as usual, the best performance in every film he's in
RdJ gave a better performance as Strauss and you know it
@theshadow9973 It was Robert Downey Jr as himself, no acting
@@VFall80 The hell does that even mean RdJ isn’t some evil plotting villain he was playing a role just like Gary was
@@theshadow9973 the guys delusional😂
@@VFall80lmao what kind of logic is that
Look at little Oppenheimer junior. Gonna cry?
“I’m gonna put some uranium in your eye” Bully Maheimer
Piss your pants, maybe?
You can't do this to me..
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?!
@@tpad6 “You know how much (or in Hiroshima and Nagasaki’s case, how many) I’ve SACRIFICED???!!!”
He actually told him what he needed to hear. That he didn't kill all these people, he just built the bomb
True
The historical context of this is that Truman misunderstood Oppenheimer. When he said he felt he "had blood on his hands" he was talking about his fears of millions dying in the future because of a nuclear holocaust. He tried to caution Truman against an arms race with the Soviets.
If you deny someone a weapon then he wouldn't be able to kill people. That's what Oppenheimer felt because he created the weapon.
Think again. Building a weapon leaves you bloodstained forever, no matter if you used it or not.
The way Oppenheimer spoke along with emotional distress in his eyes drove me to tears.
I agree 100%, that is the main thing that draws me and did draw me to this film. Furthermore, I think it's a testament to how great I mean magnificent of an actor that Cillian Murphy is. An outstanding film produced by an outstanding producer with an outstanding performance by an outstanding actor. Ludwood Garrison also did a phenomenal job with the soundtrack of this film. I genuinely believe that music can make or break a movie and Oppenheimer has, in my opinion, the greatest OST in all of film history. Every single track from the OST fits so well with the scene that it's in. It's unbelievable. Oppenheimer is an 11/10.
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@Laissez-faire402 He wasn't. I suspect once the true horrors were felt, he changed his mind
Don’t let that cry baby back in here…
Agree 100%, my favourite soundtrack too but how you spelt Ludwig Goransson is funny to me lol@@Joker-kn4hu
This scene literally shook me
Truman got that dawgn in him
Artillery man in WWI through Verdun, he’s no stranger to seeing blood.
@@Psyfi85And THAT was supposed to be the *big* war lol
And if by dawg u mean blatant psychopathic behavioral tendencies and lack of human empathy then ur right, u virgins sure are so smegma!1!1
@@Psyfi85 Sorry, I hate to be THAT guy, but actually the Battle of Verdun was in 1916, well before the US joined the war in 1917. That being said, yes, Harry S. Truman was an artillery officer towards the end of WWI.
Naggaahhhsakeeeeee
🤣🤣🤣
Nehhhgeh-sehhhk-eee
It's a very old-style midwest kind of pronunciation
Gary Oldman has played Churchill and now Truman. Both convincingly. Great actor!
When he leans forward you can almost see a pain in his eyes, being like I carry the burden of guilt, not you. But being a proud, pragmatic stubborn man (and the President of the nation) he has to stand by his decision and can not openly talk about his feelings nor is he considerate of those of others, so he resorts to callousness and being demeaning to Oppenheimer instead, basically telling him to suck it up. A short but amazing performance.
There is no guilt in his eyes. He didn't feel nothing. The scene is made to tell you how hard someone in a leadership position needs to be. He is mocking oppheimemer.
@@ArmyKiillersh Yes that's his outward appearance. But I see a kind of weariness in Oldman's performance where he lets some pain and bitterness seep through like it's a defense mechanism.
@v.konings1222 I agree with this interpretation especially when you can see his lips slightly tremble as if he is realizing himself the guilt he has on himself for his actions. Only to quickly become invredibly hardened turning that guilt into callousness ending with insulting Oppenheimer.
No such thing. Its clear that he despises the weakness and self-pity he sees.
@@dan5626 Yeah, Truman was very insecure about the qualities of himself he deemed feminine and spoke about how being bullied and called a sissy as an child really effected him.
I would like to point out that in this scene President Truman is played up as a horrible person but I’m going to play devils advocate and explain some of the history.
Truman by all means was a complete nobody when FDR selected him as his running mate and it was an incredibly odd decision at the time. Truman was always thought to be slow and a social outcast. But that’s exactly who FDR needed at the time. FDR was dealing with the great depression and looming Second World War. He needed a VP who was going to bend the knee to every single policy decision he made. Not a single person thought Truman was going to be president when FDR selected him.
Welp fast forward to 1945 and FDR just died. By some miracle making Truman the president of the United States. Truman made the decision to drop the bomb based off casualty reports form the battle of Okinawa. Which was the bloodiest battle for the US in WW2. However he chose to warn both cites before the bombings but these warnings were ignored.
It’s well regarded that Truman had extreme guilt about his decision to use the bomb. He lost sleep, because physically ill when hearing of the injuries and overall changed because of it.
In this scene I like to think that while to Oppenheimer he is a horrible person it’s more of his PTSD coming out. Because in his eyes no one cares who built the bomb but rather who dropped it.
Overall it’s quite fascinating.
Good God...Truman was left to shoulder a burden meant for a greater man...
Good God...
Overall, Truman is not a president in history I harbor much respect for. But I do agree in the assessment of Truman feeling appalled to hear that Oppenheimer of all people felt guilty about the bomb.
You see Oppenheimer spent 4 whole years convincing himself of the need to build this bomb and that they had to beat the Nazis to it when in reality it was never about that. Remember the scene when the writer that was hired for Los Alamos explained to the group of people that the bomb was no longer necessary with Germanys surrender? Yet Robert all the same advocated for its use against the Japanese. It really is a horrible revelation in the power that man was given to destroy themselves.
@@ryanjw15 He’s by no means the best president in US history but then again who would be? He was made president after FDR died who at the time was considered the best president in US history. He also wasn’t elected either. The shoes he had to bear were incredibly large.
However I do believe everything happens for a reason. And while we can judge Truman for using the bomb it probably saved far more lives than even he could comprehend. Once the genie had been let out of the bottle no one wanted to use nuclear weapons again. Everyone was terrified of them. Making nuclear war much more likely once the Soviets had the bomb.
That's a really cool take on this scene. Truman's guilt is eating him up and this crybaby scientist has a hurt conscience just because he built the bomb. Interesting.
I imagine Truman kind of had a sort of “why the hell is this my problem?” thing going. The decision whether or not to drop the bombs is one of the most complicated military decisions ever made. People around him were even divided some supported and some dissented. The stress of having to make that decision and all the implications that come with it probably made Oppenheimer’s “crybaby attitude” seem like insignificant nonsense compared to the stress Truman was dealing with.
Fun Fact: The guy who played Truman is the same guy who played Churchill in Darkest Hour.
… yeah, I’m sure nobody instantly recognized Gary freaking Oldman. What a useless “fun fact.”
@@tofutanari6212 dont lie, even you didnt recognize him in this scene
... he literally just looks like himself in this scene. LOL@@sumbitch3rdgen
@@tofutanari6212 why do you start every comment with 3 dots? Are you trying to speak morse or something?
@@sumbitch3rdgen … how did you know?
"You are the men who gave them power to Destroy Themselves" framed well
the man
The fact that you never see Gary Oldman in a movie he's credited in makes him the best actor in any movie he's in.
"my le bomb, it le killed people"
That's Gary Oldman ❤❤ Kills it with a minute performance 💥💥
Damn right Harry!
I love how when he says " i feel like i have blood on my hands " truman just leans forward, doesn't say a word and takes out a tiny towel, basically saying " then clean it " without actually saying a single word.
He has a point. Oppenheimer's guilt came largely from his own ego.
No he doesn't. Mfer's own invention killed maaaany people. President is wilding here
Without him. Truman could have never used it.
Plain and simple
Not really. Who made the bomb? Oppy did. It's natural to feel guilt.
@@hannahdyson7129That’s not true at all. Oppenheimer wasn’t the only mind behind the atomic bomb
@@Nei982Einstein too felt guilty.
Perfect scene. Worth 30-50% of the movie. People who want to understand the nature of power will see it as a revelation of highest value.
Oppenheimer: My le bomb... it... le killed people
Truman: Well i wouldn't exactly call them people
He has a point
The man has a fucking point. Oppenheimer gives himself more importance than he really has. Even when he was feeling guilty, the root of his feelings were very selfish: the fact that he thinks that anybody really gives a shit that he 'makes' the bomb...
@@PAPERBOYSUPER Oppenheimer didn't have the stomach for anything. He was weak man. Truman had the courage to engage in total warfare. A lesson our country as forgotten.
@@prod7906 bruh they fucking nuked a civilian population…. 200 thousand Innocent men, women and children
Say what you will to justify it, but feeling ZERO remorse for it is down right satanic
@PAPERBOYSUPER i don't think he thinks anyone cares who made the bomb. But he has internalized guilt because if he didn't make the bomb in the first place, they wouldn't have had a bomb to drop that day. It's like if you sold a gun to someone, and they go later that day and shoot up a school or something. It's an absolute tragedy that isn't your fault, however you would feel guilt to an extent because it wouldn't have happened if you didn't sell them the gun. It's guilt over the butterfly affect of events, not objective blame. In my opinion at least, that's how I interpreted his feelings
@@elexadelorme9941 I know that. But it don't exclude the fact that his big ego was involved,, even when he was acting good.
Truman is great in playing Gary Oldman
Truman: _”You clearly don’t know who you’re talking to, so let me clue you in. I am not in danger. I am the danger. A guy opens his door and gets shot, and you think that of me? No! I am the one who knocks!”_
"A guy look at the sky and see a second sun and you think that of me?? No. I am the one who drops"
"I am the one who nukes!"
He wasn't trying to take away Oppenheimer's credit. He was trying to take away his blame.
You make it sound like he was doing him a favor. It was blatant disrespect.
Gary Oldman needs to play Stalin now and the Trilogy is Complete
Once again Oldman transforms beautifully
Chad Truman gave Oppenhomo a reality check.
What’s crazy is this entire conversation happened almost verbatim
Oppie knew better than anybody what that bomb would do. Its development was a testimony to his ego. Now he wants to cry about it to the man who actually had to make the decision.
I can't imagine the feeling and having the guilt that Oppenheimer had on his shoulders since that day after he realized what he had become and what he had created forever changed the world or destroyed it, rather, it's beautifully displayed in a horrific way by Cillian Murphy and that is the mark of an outstanding actor. I've said before that Cillian didn't just play Oppenheimer. He was J. Robert Oppenheimer.
From what i read, even without developing the bomb Oppenheimer was an asshole in his personal life. But that fact that he built the City Melter 8000 and then was sad that it did what he designed it. Even afterwards, once they entered the 50s and so on, when Oppenheimer did interviews and whatnot, he kept playing victim. I'm not saying he didn't have the right to feel bad about it, but he milked the shit out of it for the rest of his life
Bro he built it because he had no choice. He might be declared a fucking communist. Last thing that he would want. He was getting paid, that's second and lastly, he didn't think it was going to be used. He thought it's purpose was only to scare off America's enemies. Read the fucking history book.
@@sonofabiscuiteatingbulldogjust to clarify; what exactly was Oppenheimer milking?
@sassythesasquatch4147 that his bomb did exactly what he designed it to do and yet he acted like "omg bombs KILL people?!" Like he didn't know he was going to build a mega weapon that would kill thousands. He knew what he was doing
Gary Oldman is truly one of the best actors in history in my opinion. While Oppenheimer obviously has tons of phenomenal actors. Gary Oldman felt like the only one to take the screen from Cillian Murphy (i know some will disagree, but that's perfectly fine!).
Ya know what FUCK IT he is the greatest
Seconded.
Crazy that this happened in real life.
Truman truly did call Oppenheimer a “crybaby”
In much harsher terms too; something to the effect of “I never want to see that fucking cretin again.”
Had no idea that was Gary Oldman until after I watched the movie. He gets me every time, this Gary Oldman. 😂
Ok I'm going to finally watch this movie
i thought we were building a rice cooker
Oppenheimer: I have blood on my hands.
Truman: Aw, you gonna cry?
Oppenheimer: No
Truman: no go and cry. Let me see you cry.
Oppenheimer: 😭
Truman: 😈
Good ol Gary being his old 90's villain self again in this scene without any doubt but what he said in this scene was actually true when u think about it
"You invented the knife, I'm the one who use it to stab, I'm the real villain bozo"
He played Churchill and he played Truman, all Gary Oldman has to do know is play Stalin
Nobody brings up Operation Downfall
I think he showed that piece of cloth to whipe away his tears to symbolyze that he was going to take away his feelings of guilt
but he does it so brutally that I wonder if he did it out of compassion, or if he really was that BASED
especially what he says after oppen walks out
Me when the civilian piece maker I built piece makes civilians.
Harry trumen was very practical man although we cant justify destruction by nuclear bombs but he said clearly in his interview he did not Feel ashamed Because if he cant give order to drop nuclear bombs to 2 cities japan will not surrender for Another 2-3 years nearly 1-2 millio more deaths will occur on both japanese and american side including Japanese civilians he just prevent it and choose Nuclear bombs to Cause Minimum damage and End the war.
I even didn't recognize that's Gary Oldman...😮
President Truman! God politicians are so cruel
*"Don't let that crybaby back in here."*
CryBaby, Sublime.
What's amazing about a film like this is thinking something didnt happen then learning it actually did! Some filmakers take so make freedoms from the source material that i think igs hurts the mivie. Then you have Oppenheimer filled wirj extraordinary scenes that actually happened!
Apparently the one group Oppenheimer was terrible at dealing with was politicians. Some wonder if it since the ones he dealt with saw straight through his trickles to be charming and he never realised
I always felt a bit conflicted about this scene. By all accounts Truman was never so cavalier about nuclear power.
Once he knew the fallout yes
Almost like it's a movie
@@leonconnelly5303It’s pretty much word for word from the book, which depicts this scene as really happening.
I forget what the source was in the book (I’m guessing Oppenheimer’s recollections? Which of course doesn’t mean it’s a fact), but this scene was definitely not made up for the movie.
It's entirely possible that Truman's putting on a front for Oppenheimer, trying to seem less concerned about the consequences of what he did than he really was. After all, why would the President of the United States, the most powerful man on earth, show weakness around someone he hardly knows (and who probably didn't like him that much to begin with)?
@@gelchert That’s a good point. One of these days I’m going to get around to reading the McCullough Truman biography. I’d love to have more insight into Truman.
"Success has many fathers - failure is an orphan" Oppenheimers masters were all status hounds devoid of empathy. Gary Oldmans presidential portrayal is pathologically narcissistic but accurate.
"in Hiroshima or... NAAHHgasakeeh"
Gary is Truman lol😂
They try and play this like he’s a jerk. However, he just tried to take Oppenheimer’s guilt and put it on himself. That’s not a jerk move. The crybaby part was a littlebit much though.
I agree with President Truman 🇺🇸 🫡
I've seen this man play Sid Vicious and Winston Churchill, both flawlessly, now how's that possible if he isn't, at least, Top 5??
And Beethoven, Dracula, Lee Harvey Oswald, and a million scene stealing villains.
Read politician where group he couldn't charm
I thought he was telling him that to comfort him. Kinda feels like a brag
Harry truman dont fear anything
So crybaby was a troll word back in 1945 too 😂
Простыми словами: щенок, ты не понял что мы делаем?
Did the other scientists feel they had blood on their hands as well?
Yeah see who's crybaby in 6 years Truboi, when McBased with his longass pipe comes with his nuclear warfare strat
Well he didn't drop it either. He just gave order. People that flew the bombers dropped it. And only because it was built first by people like Oppenheimer. Truman was just intermediary. People in hiroshima didn't care about neither Openheimer, nor Truman. People in hiroshima and nagasaki just knew it was the usa/americans.
Actually that old man was realistically right
What's with the filter?
Keep it from getting copywrited and taken down
Fifty Years After Hiroshima, is as reasonable as it can get.
Feeling guilty is 100% natural. This president is tripping.
Tbf, Robert built it, but it was Truman who dropped it. Robert could build a hundred, but just one being dropped lay on Truman's shoulders
@@zillafire101 Yeah, and? Robert will feel that guilt for the rest of his life....
The problem is that Oppenheimer is making the situation all about himself. Oblivious to how other people might be feeling about the bomb. Truman at this point thinks that if anyone is to be blamed; it should be him; so for Oppenheimer to make this all about himself and his guilt disgusts Truman who is currently carrying his own.
@@shivill2236 Fair point, honestly, but I think he's just expressing his own guilt, not "making it about himself".
@@TheAmazingHoho576 Oppenheimer definitely thinks he's just expressing his guilt here. He's just ignorant about how other people feel; that is the running theme of this movie. Oppenheimer, while having good intentions hurts the people around him due to unwillingness to engage in their feelings, instead only focusing on himself.
Bro got offended about Robert thinking he was the most evil human there.
This is why I love politics. The ruling class truly are playing a different game than the rest of humanity.
I disagree with the narrator. Oldman's portrayal illustrates Truman's willingness to own it. He knows how many Americans were saved by dropping the bomb, and he has completely accepted responsibility for it and is prepared to be judged for it, even if he isn't 100% sure he did the right thing.
Gonna cry again Cry Baby 😂
american presidents doing their job 😮😅😂
They are both right. Which is worst
Hiroshimer
Is it just me, or did they portray Truman as a bit of a dick in this film?
Truman did mock Oppenheimer with a hanky and also called him a crybaby but then again a World War 1 veteran who had to make the decision to bomb an entire city probably wouldn't be too delicate with an upset scientist.
They did it pretty accurately
@@rustyrussell2537 To be fair to Truman, Oppenheimer complained to him several times before Truman lost his temper. But with a movie you have to condense it into a single scene.
@@rustyrussell2537Do you think Truman cared?! Because he didn't
@@hannahdyson7129 I never said he did.
Cry about it 🤡🙏
Pure evil
Cleaning images arre movie's r the great instrument of manipulation in both ways good to bad n bad to good... Choose ur content very wisely...
This scene not really good or bad, other way.
*about your feelings?
Narcissistic jewish nerdcel put down by Truman.
This is why scientists should be in charge, not power hungry old men
Crazy considering Oppenheimer’s entire life is literally him being a power hungry old man who can’t get over the fact that he’s not the most important person in the room
@matthewmeador9565 Is the youtube comment section just a bunch of people saying " I'm right your wrong "
Such a terrorist act
Tell that to the sacking of Nanjing and Korea
@@gachapinCUEVAit doesn’t matter if the boom killed soldiers.
But 99% were not soldiers, they were just innocent civilians like me, you, your mom, your daughter, your sister, your kids, your grandmother…
Attacking civilians is a terrorist act, under international law