But his first quote is just straight up nationalism which usually leads into racism. Why does a country belong to a man? Does being born by chance into a certain country make you be in charge of defending it? Against whom? Others? Changes? I can resonate with some of the quotes but this was one felt like a far right talking point.
@@Afraidofloveandpeace I think he was mainly trying to make the point of people protecting what’s theirs so that someone else doesn’t take it. He was probably referring to the military or government when he was talking about government.
@@Afraidofloveandpeace How the hell was this even the take away you arrive at from hearing his quote? The fact that the simple logical statement of don't be a pushover or someone will come and take your shit somehow makes you go "BuT mUh FaR RiGhT" says more about you than anything else.
@@Afraidofloveandpeaceif the story of mankind is “far right” then sure. If your car isnt locked then it wont be safe, nothing stops it from being taken. The indians werent able to protect their lands and the land was taken. Africans lost battles to other tribes and were sold, then africa was invaded by other countries. Its life to protect yourself and what can be taken, like animals with cubs and territories. Only someone like you can interject their politics into something so basic even children know it.
@@StuartEaston23 Did you somehow skip over the middle of my comment, where I mentioned why I had this impression? If so, I'd recommend reading it and if you have any more questions you're welcome to ask me.
Communists are philosopher villains. They attempt to impose a theoretical model of humanity, where everyone is altruistic, if only the government can set the groundwork and force everyone to play along. Problem is, human nature is incompatible with Communism, and human nature always wins in the end.
@@alanmorris4896 I love "Meditations" but Marcus Aurelius couldn't even turn Rome into a paradise, and he left the Empire to his son Commodus, practically kicking off the Crisis of Third Century.
0:00 Walking Dead 0:24 Breaking Bad 0:55 The Originals 1:03 Deadwood 1:24 Fargo 1:31 Game of Thornes 1:43 Daredevil 2:03 The Wire 2:33 Hannibal 2:38 Daredevil 2:44 Game of Thrones 3:25 The Wire 3:50 Hannibal 3:58 Better Call Saul 4:12 The Wire 4:18 Game of Thornes 4:38 Hannibal 4:55 The Wire 5:18 The Falcon and The Winter Soldier 5:24 The Boys
I think it being short made the show that much better. Hannibal is not the type of show that would be good for multiple seasons. Maybe 1 more season though
@discogypsyfish9577 Why ? Because you don't want to watch it anymore lol . That's your problem You can choose whether or not you want to watch it. Others on the other hand enjoyed watching it such as I did.
@@martinondrus6344 animals use cruelty for a purpose unless we're talking about Orcas, chimps, elephants etc. Humans use cruelty for pure pleasure, animals don't use calculated cruelty.
He wasn't a villian, but I've always liked the throwaway quotes from Professor Rasczak in Starship Troopers, which are typically quite true. My favourite: "And force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived."
He also said "Something given has no value. " which is the book is the much longer, “Nothing of value is free. Even the breath of life is purchased at birth only through gasping effort and pain... The best things in life are beyond money; their price is agony and sweat and devotion... and the price demanded for the most precious of all things in life is life itself--ultimate cost for perfect value”
It's just Political Science 101. Governing derives from having a monopoly on the legitimate use of force. Political legitimacy derives from the public will, which can be expressed in a variety of different ways. If these things are in agreement, the government employs its ability to use force in a way that protects the people and serves their will. People tacitly agree to the authorities' use of that violence because they (at least by general consensus) see it as legitimate - that is the "consent to govern". Despotism comes when those in power who control the use of force use that force illegitimately, having lost the consent to govern; they hang on to power by creating a state which is basically at war against its own people. In such cases, order & violence is used in suppression of the public will, not in service of it. That also has its opposite: when a state has lost the monopoly on the use of force, it cannot anymore carry out its primary function: protecting the people. Instead of order, instead of the popular will be respected there's only chaos, and society devolves into war of "all against all" - a failed state. Anyways, Rasczak was just being true to his (militaristic) society in the way he said that, but you can look at any society, from an anarchist collective to a militarized fascist state to a theocracy to a democracy, and realize they all have to figure out what rules they wish to live by, and how to enforce them upon those who refuse.
Important to remember that the quotes are good because most, if not all, of them are saying "truths" to manipulate some else. Sometimes they don't even believe them themselves, like Gustavo.
Everything we say is to manipulate somebody in one way or another. Big or small, evil, kind or even neutral knowledge, on television or in real life its all a manipulation so...yes. Yes they are.
@@mistermonologue2442 not really, manipulation implies that it was done with dishonesty and using unfair arguments. And that is what these villains do, they are dishonest by not even believing their own words, and/or unfair by mentioning undeniable truths that leave no immediate room to argue so that gullible people can think "you know what, maybe they are right, murdering half of the population in the universe is a way to solve scarcity". So no, not everything we say is to manipulate somebody.
@@mistermonologue2442that’s not true in the slightest. I can literally break down the basics of language to explain how I can either be making a declaration just to state my particular opinion or saying something with the intent to purposefully manipulate someone. Like what 😂😂😂
@@Someone_Unknown90 Lol of course it's true. Why would you be declaring anything? To have an effect on who youre telling it to. Even if it's just giving them knowledge or making small talk it's manipulating them in small degrees to act different in the future (immediate future or far future doesn't matter)
When I first heard that monologue, I thought it was good writing. The more I think about it, it's hard to disagree with Zemo at all. It's so strange that such incredible writing was a part of a Marvel TV show.
@@LotionSoronarrNo, he was simply pointing out how easy it is to fall into the supremacist line of thinking when you start pushing for the superhuman ideal, hes saying to simply beware of not falling into that pitfall.
I'm not sure Homelander is similar to the others, because he's being literal about it. The others give grim but true and applicable advice. Homelander says "No, really, you're all worthless compared to me."
@@thegrumpiestlump1897 that may be so - but he is still right. If the most powerful person on this planet can be manipulated, coerced and controlled - do you really think all of human society isn't being controlled. Starting from the dumbing down of education, critical thinking skills, media, economics, religion, political ideologies etc etc - all designed to control the population to conform to what is wanted. And if it all worked on HIM, do you think it isn't working on the rest. So the show may want you to see him as wrong - but that doesn't mean he is wrong.
@rianmacdonald9454 Of course the part that you're referencing is accurate. Problem is, for the purposes of this video, they should've cut the clip off after that. The last true thing he says is "I'm stronger". He's not smarter. The world doesn't need him. He isn't even good at saving people, much less superior. He's not a hero.
People tend to forget, "You too are apart of the world. If you want to change it, you start with yourself." We as humans have turned fire "a destructive force", into batteries, engines and even use fire for cooking, to shower. The world is naturally destructive but once you learn to control those flames "to learn not to burn others", it becomes a lot better place. That starts with you.
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It is all in the game, right?" That was some of the realist shit ever said... The legal game is so disgusting...
I’ve come to learn that I take far more advice from villains than heroes, because villains are more realistic. They don’t sugarcoat everything. Just tell it like it is.
Poor soul. This is a stupid quote that Gus used to manipulate Walt to do the "man" thing. In real life, your protection and providing entitle you to respect. If they don't give you respect, don't provide and don't protect. You're not a second class citizen, or a tool or a disposable human. Have some respect for yourself
Let’s get something straight right now no one’s a poor soul and unless you have children don’t say anything to me because as a man and a father with integrity for what I put into this world then you better do your damn job. What he says is exactly what’s happening today unless you’re a foreigner who thinks being in the US as a man right now is peaches and cream
@@user-ze4cx5sn5c It's really not. When you don't get in return respect and authority, then it's not manhood, it's just servitude. Many guys are in this place. Providing for their wife and protecting her, while she keeps nagging him, doesn't have sex with him, doesn't respect him. This is all extremely common. Men stay and comply because they're too scared of losing their wife. This isn't manhood. Manhood is protecting and providing, AND knowing your worth and expecting authority and respect in return.
My Least Favorite to Favorite Quotes: 1. Klaus Mikaelson (The Originals) 2. Negan Smith (The Walking Dead) 3. Gustavo Fring (Breaking Bad) 4. Wilson Fisk (Daredevil) 5. Petyr Baelish (Game of Thrones) 6. Al Swearengen (Deadwood) 7. Lorne Malvo (Fargo) 8. Dr. Hannibal Lecter (Hannibal) 9. Baron Zemo (The Falcon and the Winter Soldier) 10. Bell/Omar Little/State Sen. Clayton Davis (The Wire) 11. Homelander (The Boys) Feel free to comment.
@@kitasauplmnustiu4307 I wanted to put "The Wire" higher up, but I couldn't. All of those quotes are so good in one way or another (Because of what the message the quote provides us with, who says the quote, as well as why it's important when it first aired and when we watch it now).
Although it’s animated, and not a film, Maul’s request for Ahsoka to join him in TCW S7E10 deserves a place here. Everything he said was true, especially of how justice was merely a construct of a power base which is about to change vastly.
love this! I remember in storytelling class that Villains are characters who actually twisted version of the protagonist. They are relatable and have sense of justice but their means are what makes them a villain.
Cruelty IS NOT something only humans do or have in them, there are plenty of other animals that are highly intelligent and do things just to be cruel. Bottlenose dolphins, orcas, and octopuses, are but three examples.
Lol I was just thinking that, it’s an outdated idea that still preached but many animals including apes our closest relatives that are very capable of being vindictive and cruel just like us.
What’s funny Is I don’t think it was ever based on any scientific data (even when scientists preached it) but spiritual philosophical ideas that for some reason never died out, which is funny because who has lived with pets for more than a couple years that can’t tell you animals are capable of vindictive behavior lol
It's actually really funny how backwards that quote is, because upon any further inspection it's the opposite, really. Emotions, while truly something primordial, are filtered through our intelligence as feelings, allowing us nuance. Cruelty is merely the most vindictive manifestation of anger, hate, and fear, one that every creature is capable of.
Despite this, most of humanity considers itself to be “civilized” and above savagery and animalistic behavior. I don’t believe the literal purpose of that statement was to say that all animals are peaceful non violent creatures, but that humanity has the ability to form logical statements, write them out, make art about it, sing songs about it and still CHOOSES to be cruel (majority of the time ie. wars, killing, r*pe, racism etc) when there are other alternatives by literary just working together
The clips of Gus in this video arent a sign that he respected walter. Gus is very clearly manipulating walter by feeding into Walt's pride and ego (his biggest flaw). Gus is essentially trying to convince Walt that doing the evil, morally wrong thing is a necessary part of what makes a man a "man". If anything, in the show Gus didnt seem to fully respect walter because he recognised Walter's unchecked ego and pride which were increasingly spiralling out of control and making him extremely difficult to work with.
I love how the particular scene at 2:03 is written and acted from the response of the defendant to the reaction of the judge and prosecutor to the surprise of the jury. A lesson in screenplay indeed.
I was actually quite shocked to see Klaus. But tbh, he's great. People think of Vampire Diaries as a teen girls show but the other groups and the Originals spinoff is actually a pretty good show. Its written pretty well, not like some teen melodrama but an actual adult drama fiction show. Reminds me like Smallville and original Roswell was.
@@stephencombes1979 I feel like the dialogue and acting was good but a lot of the writing annoyed me, I also kinda wish they had kept the originals power level consistent. They were presented as these incredibly powerful entities but I felt like the show would routinely nerf them when facing a enemies to keep things interesting, i understand that but I feel their are ways to have the final boss as the main character in a manner of speaking and still present them with challenges
@@Danheron2I completely agree. There wasn't any real consistency with regards to power levels. This includes Lucien and Marcel when they became enhanced. I expect it's difficult to write a character when you don't actually know how the story is likely to end for them a few years down the line. The character designer (equivalent in shows, the writers and costume designer) should have discussed the long term plan with the production team and found a way to keep the power a lot more level for each character.
Watching Hannibal solidified something for me, two things can be true at the same time: A very smart person who actually “helps “ people can kill people. Little Finger was smart and cunning at the same time!
Why does being intelligent (or at least looking as though you're intelligent) give anyone a free pass to kill others without a trial or reasonable proof of guilt?
@@BrianSWhite-yr1vs Because what you describe is subjective, not ob jective. Many people Hannibal killed would never face any actual punishment, as they are good at avoiding it. You can be piece of human feces, but as long as you are good at bending laws and regulations in your favor, nobody can touch you, while remaining within confines of the law.
@@BrianSWhite-yr1vs The sentence is a bit confusing. But the show is about Hannibal, a former doctor now psychiatrist, who is a mass murdering cannibal. Although he is that, he still helps people in his job as a psychiatrist and saved many patients when he was a doctor. Which creates that contradiction of doing and enjoying both. It makes for an interesting character and show. It really draws you in! The whole thing is incredibly well made and played. I truly recommend it, even if it's a bit heavy on the corpses. (The show's name is just "Hannibal", it was produced in 2013)
@@blue-guymaster5121Hannibal does not help his patients. He likes toying with them and tries to see how far he can push them, and there are multiple examples of this, such as pushing Randall further into his delusions about being an animal, or trying to manipulate Margot into killing her brother, or the paranoid patient he referred to Bedalia. The only one I would say he tried to help was Franklyn, but not even he was spared as he was eventually killed Hannibal.
Really appreciate the lack of talking in this video and having it just show the actual scenes. most channels just talk over the clips and never actually show them so beg thanks for such a well edited video
With you until Homelander's speech at the end. Maybe philosophically he's right. But the rest were within the context of the show. Dude is the villain through and through.
Homelander is a good quote, but its not true. Yes he is stronger, but in the real world we have been saving ourselves for centuries. In the real world we don't have a homelander and humanity survives. In Homelander's own world, most of his heroics are PR. He doesn't do anything for anyone without reason and will murder innocent people if he gets into any kind of bad mood. His help costs more than its worth.
I agree, especially considering that before Homelander there were plenty of people saving others and that within the show, the Boys have saved each other from scrapes against Vought, disproving Homelander's speech. For example, as can be pointed out with the actions of Butcher and Hughie in the pilot during the fight between Butcher and Translucent, Butcher could have left Hughie as a victim of Translucent or Hughie could have done the same with Butcher when he was ordered to run. Yet, both of them chose to stay and confront him with the possible risk of death and temporarily overcome the so-called "hero" using their intellects as as well as Butcher's physical prowess.
The important part of the quote is that even a superman can be controlled, with the right scheme. Your skin may be bulletproof, but your psyche is as weak as anyone else's. The fact that he mixes it with his arrogant jerkery is simply the inevitable result of him being an arrogant jerk.
In the real world, we do in fact have a bunch of homelanders. WTAF do you think militaries are? They are the men who ignore their own morals in service of protecting those weaker than them. Who are directed by others to do horrible things, all for the idea that it is for the better. The vast majority of people get to live in relative ease because of the sacrifice of an underappreciated few. They don't have to deal with crises on their own, because someone stronger does it for a living, regardless of what their motivation for choosing that living is. Our entire societal structure, going as far back as tribalist societies, is BUILT around the idea of the strong shouldering the burdens of the weak, so that all might move forward.
@@jtnachos16 the military selflessly risk their lives. Homelander does not take risks because he can't be harmed. There is no sacrifice on his part. He will never die.
@@DragonflyandTheWolf No, the military does not 'selflessly' risk their lives. Especially if we are talking US military, where most the recent conflicts have been self-engineered to keep the defense industry profitable. They are paid for it and a great many, especially career soldiers, are actually in it for the ego tripping and pay that accompanies it. It is the rare individual who is actually selfless. Don't mistake the end result of the collective for the individual motivations that power it. As far as homelander goes: You are forgetting to look at the statements from the point of view of the one who made them. From his perspective, he IS sacrificing his time and effort, time out of his day, on behalf of people who he feels don't appreciate him. Yes, he has a god complex, but that doesn't make his feelings invalid, especially when most of his appearances are PR appearances rather than anything of actual interest or value. Homelander would be a very different individual if he existed in something like Marvel, DC, or even Image comics, where he wasn't the absolute top of the food chain as far as supers go. Somewhere where he actually had opponents who could challenge him. He's superman with corporate obligations, no actual competition, and surrounded by people who insist he is special, which turns him into something akin to Zod. You know who else expressed a similar feeling of disappointment and underappreciation? That he was wasting his time and effort? Captain America, during his first movie, when they were using him for PR rather than letting him actually help.
@@laylachristina5605 yes from one hero to another... From one villain to another. They are part of our psyche. Peep into our most loving dream and worst nightmare.
And why DO we idolize the heroes? Because they have exactly what we're evolved to seek from our fellow humans -- status, fame, respect, sexual opportunities, resources. If Superman tells the Metropolis police he needs ALL of them to stand around the Daily Planet building at 3 a.m., he GETS it. Not because they're afraid of his wrath, but because they believe in him. He's their king, even if he doesn't realize it. We idolize the heroes for villainous reasons.
Depend who really, those in the video are good villain, but lot of villain aren't that smart Tho often a story will revolve around a younger hero and an older villain, in those case the villain being wiser and more experienced in general while the hero is more naive makes sense
Homelander is a narcissist having a temper tantrum and the Littlefinger ladder clip is just silly if you aren’t a sociopath. Endlessly chasing power or success at the cost of love or your country or your faith in practice becomes “forsake everything that makes life worth living for an unstable addictive feeling of pleasure”
Homelander is being completely literal. He's not giving anyone advice. He's just taking the power he has and exercising it. It would be like the president not saying "anyone can be the president if they work hard enough" and instead saying "Well, I'm president, so you do what I say."
@@darrennew8211 But it’s way worse than that because he delusionally thinks he’s morally superior to everyone because he has the most power. He violently murders people because he thinks their lives don’t matter compared to him. He’s always on a childish power trip and is unable to control himself. People try to control him because they’re afraid of a sociopath misusing his power even more.
Its only silly if you come from a family with some wealth or even middle class in America. When you grow up in poverty it makes perfect sense. Chaos doesn't have to be criminality, its seizing the opportunity to climb our of the projects even at the expense of those around you. You have never starved, nor witnessed the pits that humans will sink to constantly. You wouldn't understand
At 6:00 from the moment I saw Homelander, I knew this was a video worth watching until the end... hahaha. Now, in all seriousness, these quotes come from specific contexts, whether from science fiction characters or characters that are clear representations of the worst aspects of human behavior. While some of the ideas they express may seem like universal truths, many of them are rooted in feelings of hatred, envy, and rage. For me, these negative emotions are just different facets of fear. We all know that a good, brave, and honorable person must first learn to harness the power of fear, and the rest will follow...😌👌
1:03 Swearengen is one of those rare characters that will have you, for a whole week after bingeing Deadwood, being a little more him in your head. 2:03 Omar, too.
thats the point of good villains. its the context that frames the tragedy or evil they are in, but the points are, from their own point of view, valid and legitimate.
Al Swearengen's quote is good in and out of context, and when you realize who said it. Swearengen arguably shouldn't even be on this list. As while he started off villainous his character was very much on a redemption arc as he cared about people in the community and about seeing the town of Deadwood prosper and survive.
The second quote, the one by Gus about family is purposely bullshit not only because we NEVER see Gus' family or if he has one, they are obvious beards for both his secret criminality and secret sexual orientation - but he says this to Walter to also play into his ego that to do this evil thing with him is to be a true man. It's not until the series finale that Walt is finally honest with Skyler that he did all this for himself and he loved it because he felt alive since he could have gotten out halfway through the second season leaving his family secure.
@@EnderSpy358 That's what I'm trying to say; he's centering it on Walt to hand him an excuse for his ego to use even though Gus does not believe in that macho rule about family for himself.
@@ernestomoreno4409 Dude had the $700k he said he needed to walk away in the second season but kept staying not for family but for himself until it killed him. Gus was bullshitting Walt so Walt could bullshit himself.
@@Taospark Gus clearly did not beliee what was coming out of his mouth, but that doesnt make his quote invalid. His quote is applicable to today's society, specially because of how men are treated nowadays.
this is such a great video! i love how you highlighted the complexity of these characters. but honestly, i think some of those villains had points that, while clever, revealed a really dark side to human nature that we shouldn't glorify. it's a bit unsettling to agree with them, don’t you think?
You relate easily to villains? I don't. There was this guy who decided Erik "Killmonger" Stevens was his god whom he would worship all his life, even though Killmonger willingly SHOT HIS GIRLFRIEND DEAD TO GET AT HIS ENEMY. I wouldn't do that. I'd NEVER do that to someone I loved. To hell with whether or not that's a weakness in me that can be exploited -- it JUST ISN'T RIGHT! And why would I sympathize with anyone who could do something that cruel?
This is one of those comments that later on, you'll cringe at. I needn't mock you, for you will be doing it yourself soon enough. Have you perhaps considered the fact that these are *villains* and not anti-heroes is because the ends do not justify the means? Or that while these might be interesting pieces of wisdom, they are more often than not *excuses and justifications* for these people? Look at homelander, for god's sake!
@@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 who said the villains are not anti heroes???? I’m cringing now. I do consider myself anti hero. Yes! why is y’all being extra about it?
I was going through the initial stages of my divorce when that Breaking Bad episode aired. The whole "a man provides" speech was something I took very much to heart. Talk about life imitating art...
I really wish they had included Littlefinger's last advice to Sansa. Fight every battle everywhere, always, in your mind. Everyone is your enemy, everyone is your friend. Every possible series of events is happening all at once. Live that way and nothing will surprise you. Everything that happens will be something that you’ve seen before." He gave her a glimpse of how his mind works, genuine advice as to how he had survived, and the irony iof Sansa using it to bring his demise. It was brilliant.
Always be prepared for the worst case scenario and backstabbing, that way you'll be seen as a paranoid person but you'll never be caught off-guard or get tricked by someone.
Second one and the one by Homelander are almost complete bullshit even without context. The entire point of Superman is that he uses his powers to set a positive example to multiply the effects of what he does so he doesn't have to save everyone if people do what he does either as fellow superheroes or as good people; Homelander is just a petty violent manchild who avoids helping whenever he can't get attention for it.
They're meaningful quotes, but almost all of them revolve around a functional nihilism that values the self above others as a foregone assumption. I'm not trying to sound smart, I'm sure even my point has holes (and this is still a great compilation of great villains, who compel us because they're well written!), but these villains are only right if instrumental skill is the only form of impact and survival is the only source of meaning. Every one of these villains is defeated by willingness to care more about someone else than yourself.
Al Swearengen's quote was literately him inspiring a newspaperman to continue his crusade for truth as the town was besieged by a corrupt and cruel robber baron. Moreover Al Swearengen is neither defeated nor arguably even a true villain. He may have started off a villain, but his character was explicitly on a redemption arc as his own interests were staunchly aligned with that of the whole town of Deadwood.
Absolutely. The Gus quote is him making up bullshit to manipulate Walter and his ego and his desire to be ‘a man’, when in reality it’s all bullshit and he’d have been a far better person by not having those insecurities out on him.
Oh, I can't wait for Homelander to go completely off his fucking rocket! It'll be scary, it'll be vengeful, it'll be spectacular! He's the only one of the superhero heroes/villains that actually scare me on screen. Anthony Starr is brilliant!
The only reason Rick and his group claimed "moral superiority" was because they defeated him. They killed plenty of husband's, fathers girlfriends etc... All they did in the end was prove him right. Niklaus was just an abusive brat who couldn't get people to like him the way he preferred so he took it out on them constantly most of all Marcel.
@@guifire9747 Bro people still believe this shit lmao. Dumbass they tried to kill daryl and abraham in s6x09 first, so they didnt attack "first". Did u forget when Negan pretty much had sex slaves, when he practically enslaved people, when he had coerced 2 communities to spend up their resources for him otherwise they will literally be killed. Lol Rick and his community was fucked up but Negan was much worse
Remember, Le Creuset (yes, it's spelled that way) manipulated both sides in what was already a racist, jingoist war of mutual hatred into going at each other in an apocalyptic showdown that would destroy the world. And no, I don't think the issues he was dealing with make him more understandable or sympathetic. Would you do something so horrific and despicable?
@@seanbigay1042 if I had experienced his life then yes. He hated his existence and I would too. His existence, suffering and fury originated from the greed of human beings to be better than anybody else even using inhumane ways, which means that actions against mankind originating from his fury against his destiny will be held responsible by mankind which made him because if they didn't do such experiments he wouldn't(or couldn't) be doing this in the first place
To counteract any of you trying to see these guys as justified, I am going to list off the things they got up to in their home series’ Negan: Lead a protection racket marketed by indentured servitude, a cult of personality surrounding himself, and the sexual slavery of several women, one of whom suffered from diabetes that was used to keep her from running away. Gus Fring: Ran the largest production of meth in the western United States on behalf of a cartel, soley so he could one day massacre every member of said cartel in revenge for the death of his lover (super badass) Klaus Mikaelson: Is a vampire which disqualifies him from having any say in anything. Al Swearingin: Crime lord who is just generally abusive to everyone, even the people he likes (still better than Hearst). Lorne Malvo: A freelance hit man who is trying to provoke the guy he’s talking to into hiring him, not for money but to make the guy a morally worse person. Little finger: Provoked an economic collapse and civil war because he was butt hurt that a girl he liked didn’t like him back Wilson Fisk: Trying to drive people out of their homes with intimidation and brute force so he can put up pricey condos. Also a crime lord. Omar Little: Raids the stash houses of drug dealers so much that he ends up getting marked for death. His actions change nothing about his community and he is ultimately just another aspect of Baltimores moral corruption. Hannibal Lecter: cannibalistic serial killer manipulating a mentally vulnerable man into suffering a psychosis out of personal obsession. Stringer Bell: A man trying to legitimize the drug trade out of egotism and entitlement. Homelander: Murderer, rapist, tried to provoke international unrest for personal gain.
Yeah dude we all know what they did. Just because the bad guy said it doesn't make it any less true. After all everything they're saying was written by a writer. Somebody who I can bet is a good person overall.
In other words: a wide variety of successful men. You were raised to find such behaviors distasteful -- by men who DID such behaviors and didn't want you as competition. In the long run, Ghenghis Khan's DNA is present in half the population of Asia, and yours will never be.
@@stevenscott2136holy fuck, you’re actually implying that to be successful you have to be evil. The situation with genghis* khan is not one that the world looks at and thinks “woah what an incredible good contribution to society that he raped so many women that he has a lot of descendants” ultimately he’s dead, the women suffered, and he’s still considered a terrible person who killed and murdered people. If you consider that to be successful person by any metric you are lost and I hope you find your way
You're trying to condemn Negan? 😂😂😂 You can't condemn someone who did what it took to survive in an apocalyptic world. There is no such thing as Good or Evil. Moral and Immoral. Those are nothing more than useless man made ideas to help protect the fragility of civilization. What Negan did was survival. And the best way to survive is to make it easier on yourself by doing WHATEVER it takes. And he did just that. He manipulated sheep into following him to create an encampment, then an army. That army (like an ant colony) spread out finding and acquiring, either by peace or force, resources to survive. All the while Negan played it smart and stayed safe in the base unless he Had to come out. He accrued mates (another part of survival). If necessary he could use them as rewards, bargaining chips, or payment. Again survival is about doing whatever it takes. And Negan is a master of survival.
@@julianjohnson9548 The villains are usually right, the way they go around trying to accomplish their goals is where they are wrong, there's always a better way of doing things or sending a message than hurting others who have nothing to do with what happened to them
What makes a great villain is when they have a reason for their actions that not only do they truly believe to be right, but that they are able to make others understand why they are doing what they are doing.
0:52 I disagree, Gus. If you're not even loved you leave. Especially if you have kids and you want them to look up to you. No one looks up to a plowhorse.
Unfortunately, society disagrees and once you 'put a ring on it' due to your fleeting emotions you have erred you are obliged to a lifetime of slavery under the pose of a happy family - why? Because you are a man.
@@sagethorburn9821 I have four and I agree with _him_ over you. Difference between Walt and I though is that I am respected by my colleagues and subordinates, respected by my consort (who, unlike married men, I'll permit to leave the moment she doesn't; she just doesn't get the kids, gossiping rights, my property, or the chance to come back), and the kids we have together. A "man" who provides and protects but cannot preside nor is well-treated by those he provides for and protects is no man, but a Duh Ore Mat that suffers in silent desperation. And I disagree with you, because you speak like a tyrantess who either has no man or is married to a mule that wishes he could be. I hope your kids have a better role model than you and guy who puts up with you; they probably won't make it otherwise.
You are supposed to choose well when getting married. If you choose but end up trying to leave, you must not have a father, if you do. He is just as a coward as you are.
Mind you, it was Col. Jessup (Jack Nicholson in the movie) who couldn't handle the truth, not Lt. (JG) Kaffee (Tom Cruise). For all his gung-ho speechifying, it was Jessup who betrayed his country and let one of his own men die for his own benefit.
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I’m glad Negan made it into one of these compilations because out of ALL the walking dead villains, he made the most sense.
But his first quote is just straight up nationalism which usually leads into racism. Why does a country belong to a man? Does being born by chance into a certain country make you be in charge of defending it? Against whom? Others? Changes?
I can resonate with some of the quotes but this was one felt like a far right talking point.
@@Afraidofloveandpeace I think he was mainly trying to make the point of people protecting what’s theirs so that someone else doesn’t take it. He was probably referring to the military or government when he was talking about government.
@@Afraidofloveandpeace How the hell was this even the take away you arrive at from hearing his quote? The fact that the simple logical statement of don't be a pushover or someone will come and take your shit somehow makes you go "BuT mUh FaR RiGhT" says more about you than anything else.
@@Afraidofloveandpeaceif the story of mankind is “far right” then sure. If your car isnt locked then it wont be safe, nothing stops it from being taken. The indians werent able to protect their lands and the land was taken. Africans lost battles to other tribes and were sold, then africa was invaded by other countries. Its life to protect yourself and what can be taken, like animals with cubs and territories. Only someone like you can interject their politics into something so basic even children know it.
@@StuartEaston23 Did you somehow skip over the middle of my comment, where I mentioned why I had this impression? If so, I'd recommend reading it and if you have any more questions you're welcome to ask me.
"We need a philosopher king!"
"Best we can offer is a philosopher villain."
The limitation of Holywood culture. It would never be permited to entertain such ideas.
A philosopher king like marcus aurelius. It could turn the world into paradise🤧
Communists are philosopher villains. They attempt to impose a theoretical model of humanity, where everyone is altruistic, if only the government can set the groundwork and force everyone to play along. Problem is, human nature is incompatible with Communism, and human nature always wins in the end.
@@alanmorris4896 I love "Meditations" but Marcus Aurelius couldn't even turn Rome into a paradise, and he left the Empire to his son Commodus, practically kicking off the Crisis of Third Century.
Plato be crying in a corner lmao
0:00 Walking Dead
0:24 Breaking Bad
0:55 The Originals
1:03 Deadwood
1:24 Fargo
1:31 Game of Thornes
1:43 Daredevil
2:03 The Wire
2:33 Hannibal
2:38 Daredevil
2:44 Game of Thrones
3:25 The Wire
3:50 Hannibal
3:58 Better Call Saul
4:12 The Wire
4:18 Game of Thornes
4:38 Hannibal
4:55 The Wire
5:18 The Falcon and The Winter Soldier
5:24 The Boys
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its fargo not crocodile's dilemma which is a episode
thanks for that.@@fiendsgaming7589
I am still utterly devastated that Hannibal was cancelled. A true primordial sin
Agreed if I had the money I’d order 6 more seasons bring all of the original cast and crew an create away
Should've ended after season 2
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I think it being short made the show that much better. Hannibal is not the type of show that would be good for multiple seasons. Maybe 1 more season though
@discogypsyfish9577 Why ? Because you don't want to watch it anymore lol . That's your problem
You can choose whether or not you want to watch it.
Others on the other hand enjoyed watching it such as I did.
Homelander is one of the best villains on tv and movies. He is a character that is well written and well played by Anthony Starr.
He's just a man-child
and a well written one at that who is a villain@@mvmsma
@@thatoneguy9816 Nah. Soldier boy was a better one.
how so?@@viix3815
@@viix3815soldier boy is badass.....but as a villen, homelander is better(again, I'm not talking about strength or power)
Everything that comes out of Hannibal's mouth was utterly right and haunting.
The charm of a psychopath...... It's terrifying.
And to cast such a charismatic actor as Mads Mikkelsen sells it even more.
@@suzanneh975 He is pretty handsome but scary, like a beautiful but deadly snake.
@@ashesofhopesinabonfireofdr6341 yessss!! For me it was more like predator/ panther vibes, but can deff see the snake as well
Cruelty exist in animal kingdom as well, not just in humans and primates
@@martinondrus6344 animals use cruelty for a purpose unless we're talking about Orcas, chimps, elephants etc.
Humans use cruelty for pure pleasure, animals don't use calculated cruelty.
that " chaos is a ladder " speech was so well tought out and so well delivered, it hits hard everytime
The true hero of Westeros. Only bad writing is real
shame it never paid off, he was done so dirty
@@RogerNbr i might never pay off, the books are unfinished and the autor is old as fuck.
@@ShadowFri3nd it might have if he wasnt lazy af, it has been a decade since the last book
@@RogerNbr he also wasted time doing the Elden ring lore when DS lore was and its already better...
He wasn't a villian, but I've always liked the throwaway quotes from Professor Rasczak in Starship Troopers, which are typically quite true. My favourite: "And force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived."
He also said "Something given has no value. " which is the book is the much longer,
“Nothing of value is free. Even the breath of life is purchased at birth only through gasping effort and pain... The best things in life are beyond money; their price is agony and sweat and devotion... and the price demanded for the most precious of all things in life is life itself--ultimate cost for perfect value”
A fascist is still a fascist and he was wrong alot!!!!!
@@Ericisnotachannel Youre one step away from quoting Hitler.
@@thicccorgi6187I doubt you could recognize a hitler quote if you saw it.
It's just Political Science 101. Governing derives from having a monopoly on the legitimate use of force.
Political legitimacy derives from the public will, which can be expressed in a variety of different ways.
If these things are in agreement, the government employs its ability to use force in a way that protects the people and serves their will. People tacitly agree to the authorities' use of that violence because they (at least by general consensus) see it as legitimate - that is the "consent to govern".
Despotism comes when those in power who control the use of force use that force illegitimately, having lost the consent to govern; they hang on to power by creating a state which is basically at war against its own people. In such cases, order & violence is used in suppression of the public will, not in service of it.
That also has its opposite: when a state has lost the monopoly on the use of force, it cannot anymore carry out its primary function: protecting the people. Instead of order, instead of the popular will be respected there's only chaos, and society devolves into war of "all against all" - a failed state.
Anyways, Rasczak was just being true to his (militaristic) society in the way he said that, but you can look at any society, from an anarchist collective to a militarized fascist state to a theocracy to a democracy, and realize they all have to figure out what rules they wish to live by, and how to enforce them upon those who refuse.
"I don't want peace.I want problems.ALWAYS"
Important to remember that the quotes are good because most, if not all, of them are saying "truths" to manipulate some else. Sometimes they don't even believe them themselves, like Gustavo.
Right
Everything we say is to manipulate somebody in one way or another. Big or small, evil, kind or even neutral knowledge, on television or in real life its all a manipulation so...yes. Yes they are.
@@mistermonologue2442 not really, manipulation implies that it was done with dishonesty and using unfair arguments.
And that is what these villains do, they are dishonest by not even believing their own words, and/or unfair by mentioning undeniable truths that leave no immediate room to argue so that gullible people can think "you know what, maybe they are right, murdering half of the population in the universe is a way to solve scarcity".
So no, not everything we say is to manipulate somebody.
@@mistermonologue2442that’s not true in the slightest. I can literally break down the basics of language to explain how I can either be making a declaration just to state my particular opinion or saying something with the intent to purposefully manipulate someone. Like what 😂😂😂
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Lol of course it's true.
Why would you be declaring anything? To have an effect on who youre telling it to. Even if it's just giving them knowledge or making small talk it's manipulating them in small degrees to act different in the future (immediate future or far future doesn't matter)
Zemo's line
"The desire to become a superhuman cannot be separated from supremacist ideals"
When I first heard that monologue, I thought it was good writing. The more I think about it, it's hard to disagree with Zemo at all. It's so strange that such incredible writing was a part of a Marvel TV show.
Become stagnant? Pretend everyones the same? Do not reach for more?
@@LotionSoronarrNo, he was simply pointing out how easy it is to fall into the supremacist line of thinking when you start pushing for the superhuman ideal, hes saying to simply beware of not falling into that pitfall.
@@smartmonke1604 I think 'beware' and "cannot" have fairly different connotations.
@@smartmonke1604"super human," is inherantly supremacist
I'm not sure Homelander is similar to the others, because he's being literal about it. The others give grim but true and applicable advice. Homelander says "No, really, you're all worthless compared to me."
Yep homelander just spat some egoistic shite not facts
Lol I was just about to say, even implying Homelander is right about anything completely misses the point of the Boys
@@thegrumpiestlump1897 that may be so - but he is still right. If the most powerful person on this planet can be manipulated, coerced and controlled - do you really think all of human society isn't being controlled. Starting from the dumbing down of education, critical thinking skills, media, economics, religion, political ideologies etc etc - all designed to control the population to conform to what is wanted.
And if it all worked on HIM, do you think it isn't working on the rest. So the show may want you to see him as wrong - but that doesn't mean he is wrong.
@rianmacdonald9454 Of course the part that you're referencing is accurate. Problem is, for the purposes of this video, they should've cut the clip off after that. The last true thing he says is "I'm stronger". He's not smarter. The world doesn't need him. He isn't even good at saving people, much less superior. He's not a hero.
I guess what Homelander has to say is just believe in yourself?
Little fingers quote about chaos being a ladder is great I loved that scene when I first saw it lol
I clicked just for the Mads thumbnail, then was pleasantly surprised with Negan.
Wilson Fisk has many great quotes
People tend to forget, "You too are apart of the world. If you want to change it, you start with yourself."
We as humans have turned fire "a destructive force", into batteries, engines and even use fire for cooking, to shower. The world is naturally destructive but once you learn to control those flames "to learn not to burn others", it becomes a lot better place. That starts with you.
"The woman that can be bought is not worth having."
What a fantastic line!!!
I women who gives herself away for free is even worth less.
"I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It is all in the game, right?" That was some of the realist shit ever said... The legal game is so disgusting...
That's some serious hood-rat logic. Shooting people isn't comparable to following rules.
I had to rewatch that scene from the other perspective and it's spot on - his dumbfounded reaction was brilliant too
What is that from? I saw the scene here but i dont know what movie it is.
@@SmokeDrake It's from the show The Wire.
The Wire quotes are on spot, so good man
A villain is just a broken hero.
Fax
Yes
How about H*tler?
No a villain is evil hence the name villain
nah some mfs are pure evil
I’ve come to learn that I take far more advice from villains than heroes, because villains are more realistic. They don’t sugarcoat everything. Just tell it like it is.
That breaking bad quote spoke to my soul
Poor soul. This is a stupid quote that Gus used to manipulate Walt to do the "man" thing. In real life, your protection and providing entitle you to respect. If they don't give you respect, don't provide and don't protect. You're not a second class citizen, or a tool or a disposable human. Have some respect for yourself
Let’s get something straight right now no one’s a poor soul and unless you have children don’t say anything to me because as a man and a father with integrity for what I put into this world then you better do your damn job. What he says is exactly what’s happening today unless you’re a foreigner who thinks being in the US as a man right now is peaches and cream
@@nephastgweiz1022 ENTITLE? simply feeling entitled isn't a guarantee. Gus description of manhood is spot on.
@@user-ze4cx5sn5c It's really not. When you don't get in return respect and authority, then it's not manhood, it's just servitude. Many guys are in this place. Providing for their wife and protecting her, while she keeps nagging him, doesn't have sex with him, doesn't respect him. This is all extremely common. Men stay and comply because they're too scared of losing their wife. This isn't manhood. Manhood is protecting and providing, AND knowing your worth and expecting authority and respect in return.
My Least Favorite to Favorite Quotes:
1. Klaus Mikaelson (The Originals)
2. Negan Smith (The Walking Dead)
3. Gustavo Fring (Breaking Bad)
4. Wilson Fisk (Daredevil)
5. Petyr Baelish (Game of Thrones)
6. Al Swearengen (Deadwood)
7. Lorne Malvo (Fargo)
8. Dr. Hannibal Lecter (Hannibal)
9. Baron Zemo (The Falcon and the Winter Soldier)
10. Bell/Omar Little/State Sen. Clayton Davis (The Wire)
11. Homelander (The Boys)
Feel free to comment.
apreciate the love for the wire
@@kitasauplmnustiu4307 I wanted to put "The Wire" higher up, but I couldn't. All of those quotes are so good in one way or another (Because of what the message the quote provides us with, who says the quote, as well as why it's important when it first aired and when we watch it now).
Closing this with
"Im the real hero"
We can all be saviour or villian in our own stories and see it as the opposite.
Although it’s animated, and not a film, Maul’s request for Ahsoka to join him in TCW S7E10 deserves a place here. Everything he said was true, especially of how justice was merely a construct of a power base which is about to change vastly.
What makes you think that power is about to change drastically
@Someone_Unknown90 In the series the power base was going to change drastically - as the was shortly before order 66 and the jedi were eliminated.
@@sambeck2510 yea no I know that but I think he was alluding to real life right?
@@Someone_Unknown90 Like op or Maul? Cause Maul was clearly talking about the rise of Palpatine in the episode.
@@sambeck2510 no the op
love this! I remember in storytelling class that Villains are characters who actually twisted version of the protagonist. They are relatable and have sense of justice but their means are what makes them a villain.
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These kind of dialog is really great to show the villain ideology and principles. And that what makes them a great villain
“There are only two things pure evil respects. Money, and violence……..the money always runs out”.
-Jake Wengronowitz
Remind of Alfred's quote about the Joker in the Dark Knight for some reaons
One of the best edits i've seen in my whole life. Made me tear up and created the feeling of hustle until death.
Cruelty IS NOT something only humans do or have in them, there are plenty of other animals that are highly intelligent and do things just to be cruel. Bottlenose dolphins, orcas, and octopuses, are but three examples.
Lol I was just thinking that, it’s an outdated idea that still preached but many animals including apes our closest relatives that are very capable of being vindictive and cruel just like us.
What’s funny Is I don’t think it was ever based on any scientific data (even when scientists preached it) but spiritual philosophical ideas that for some reason never died out, which is funny because who has lived with pets for more than a couple years that can’t tell you animals are capable of vindictive behavior lol
It's actually really funny how backwards that quote is, because upon any further inspection it's the opposite, really. Emotions, while truly something primordial, are filtered through our intelligence as feelings, allowing us nuance. Cruelty is merely the most vindictive manifestation of anger, hate, and fear, one that every creature is capable of.
Despite this, most of humanity considers itself to be “civilized” and above savagery and animalistic behavior. I don’t believe the literal purpose of that statement was to say that all animals are peaceful non violent creatures, but that humanity has the ability to form logical statements, write them out, make art about it, sing songs about it and still CHOOSES to be cruel (majority of the time ie. wars, killing, r*pe, racism etc) when there are other alternatives by literary just working together
That dialogue needs to be heard and understood IN CONTEXT. Not in isolation. Hannibal is a show about psychopaths.
Omar is so much more than just " a villain "
It's wild, but Gus was the only person who respected Walter.
Wouldn't be too sure about that, he was manipulative and knew what to say to appeal to his fragile ego.
@@Jonra1 It's ones perception that matters.
More like respected him as a enemy.
I think he was feeding his ego with things Walt wanted to hear
The clips of Gus in this video arent a sign that he respected walter. Gus is very clearly manipulating walter by feeding into Walt's pride and ego (his biggest flaw). Gus is essentially trying to convince Walt that doing the evil, morally wrong thing is a necessary part of what makes a man a "man". If anything, in the show Gus didnt seem to fully respect walter because he recognised Walter's unchecked ego and pride which were increasingly spiralling out of control and making him extremely difficult to work with.
"chaos is a ladder" imo is one of the greatest monolugues of all time especially with the original music
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Take a shot every time the word ''Man'' is uttered.
good to see a lot of "The Wire" clips, that show is a masterpiece
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Omar's shoutgun quote is amazing. Everything in the shower is just part of the game or not.
I love how the particular scene at 2:03 is written and acted from the response of the defendant to the reaction of the judge and prosecutor to the surprise of the jury. A lesson in screenplay indeed.
Feel like a lot of Doctor Who quotes can make it. On the list
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I was actually quite shocked to see Klaus. But tbh, he's great. People think of Vampire Diaries as a teen girls show but the other groups and the Originals spinoff is actually a pretty good show. Its written pretty well, not like some teen melodrama but an actual adult drama fiction show. Reminds me like Smallville and original Roswell was.
The dialogue of the originals is great especially Elijah there’s things I dislike but overall pretty good
A very underated show indeed
I disliked TVD/Legacies, they're for teen girls, but I loved The Originals and hated that they ended it (and season 5 wasn't very good).
@@stephencombes1979 I feel like the dialogue and acting was good but a lot of the writing annoyed me, I also kinda wish they had kept the originals power level consistent. They were presented as these incredibly powerful entities but I felt like the show would routinely nerf them when facing a enemies to keep things interesting, i understand that but I feel their are ways to have the final boss as the main character in a manner of speaking and still present them with challenges
@@Danheron2I completely agree. There wasn't any real consistency with regards to power levels. This includes Lucien and Marcel when they became enhanced. I expect it's difficult to write a character when you don't actually know how the story is likely to end for them a few years down the line. The character designer (equivalent in shows, the writers and costume designer) should have discussed the long term plan with the production team and found a way to keep the power a lot more level for each character.
Watching Hannibal solidified something for me, two things can be true at the same time: A very smart person who actually “helps “ people can kill people. Little Finger was smart and cunning at the same time!
Why does being intelligent (or at least looking as though you're intelligent) give anyone a free pass to kill others without a trial or reasonable proof of guilt?
@@BrianSWhite-yr1vs Because what you describe is subjective, not ob jective. Many people Hannibal killed would never face any actual punishment, as they are good at avoiding it. You can be piece of human feces, but as long as you are good at bending laws and regulations in your favor, nobody can touch you, while remaining within confines of the law.
@@BrianSWhite-yr1vs The sentence is a bit confusing. But the show is about Hannibal, a former doctor now psychiatrist, who is a mass murdering cannibal. Although he is that, he still helps people in his job as a psychiatrist and saved many patients when he was a doctor. Which creates that contradiction of doing and enjoying both. It makes for an interesting character and show. It really draws you in! The whole thing is incredibly well made and played. I truly recommend it, even if it's a bit heavy on the corpses.
(The show's name is just "Hannibal", it was produced in 2013)
@@blue-guymaster5121Hannibal does not help his patients. He likes toying with them and tries to see how far he can push them, and there are multiple examples of this, such as pushing Randall further into his delusions about being an animal, or trying to manipulate Margot into killing her brother, or the paranoid patient he referred to Bedalia. The only one I would say he tried to help was Franklyn, but not even he was spared as he was eventually killed Hannibal.
Really appreciate the lack of talking in this video and having it just show the actual scenes. most channels just talk over the clips and never actually show them so beg thanks for such a well edited video
With you until Homelander's speech at the end.
Maybe philosophically he's right. But the rest were within the context of the show. Dude is the villain through and through.
Homelander is a good quote, but its not true. Yes he is stronger, but in the real world we have been saving ourselves for centuries. In the real world we don't have a homelander and humanity survives. In Homelander's own world, most of his heroics are PR. He doesn't do anything for anyone without reason and will murder innocent people if he gets into any kind of bad mood. His help costs more than its worth.
I agree, especially considering that before Homelander there were plenty of people saving others and that within the show, the Boys have saved each other from scrapes against Vought, disproving Homelander's speech. For example, as can be pointed out with the actions of Butcher and Hughie in the pilot during the fight between Butcher and Translucent, Butcher could have left Hughie as a victim of Translucent or Hughie could have done the same with Butcher when he was ordered to run. Yet, both of them chose to stay and confront him with the possible risk of death and temporarily overcome the so-called "hero" using their intellects as as well as Butcher's physical prowess.
The important part of the quote is that even a superman can be controlled, with the right scheme. Your skin may be bulletproof, but your psyche is as weak as anyone else's.
The fact that he mixes it with his arrogant jerkery is simply the inevitable result of him being an arrogant jerk.
In the real world, we do in fact have a bunch of homelanders. WTAF do you think militaries are? They are the men who ignore their own morals in service of protecting those weaker than them. Who are directed by others to do horrible things, all for the idea that it is for the better.
The vast majority of people get to live in relative ease because of the sacrifice of an underappreciated few. They don't have to deal with crises on their own, because someone stronger does it for a living, regardless of what their motivation for choosing that living is.
Our entire societal structure, going as far back as tribalist societies, is BUILT around the idea of the strong shouldering the burdens of the weak, so that all might move forward.
@@jtnachos16 the military selflessly risk their lives. Homelander does not take risks because he can't be harmed. There is no sacrifice on his part. He will never die.
@@DragonflyandTheWolf No, the military does not 'selflessly' risk their lives. Especially if we are talking US military, where most the recent conflicts have been self-engineered to keep the defense industry profitable. They are paid for it and a great many, especially career soldiers, are actually in it for the ego tripping and pay that accompanies it. It is the rare individual who is actually selfless. Don't mistake the end result of the collective for the individual motivations that power it.
As far as homelander goes: You are forgetting to look at the statements from the point of view of the one who made them. From his perspective, he IS sacrificing his time and effort, time out of his day, on behalf of people who he feels don't appreciate him. Yes, he has a god complex, but that doesn't make his feelings invalid, especially when most of his appearances are PR appearances rather than anything of actual interest or value. Homelander would be a very different individual if he existed in something like Marvel, DC, or even Image comics, where he wasn't the absolute top of the food chain as far as supers go. Somewhere where he actually had opponents who could challenge him.
He's superman with corporate obligations, no actual competition, and surrounded by people who insist he is special, which turns him into something akin to Zod.
You know who else expressed a similar feeling of disappointment and underappreciation? That he was wasting his time and effort? Captain America, during his first movie, when they were using him for PR rather than letting him actually help.
As kids we idolize the Heroes....
Growing up, we realize the Villains make more senses.
And maturing we realize that both are too shallow to trully satisfy our human nature, volatile and always in need of changing.
@@laylachristina5605 yes from one hero to another... From one villain to another. They are part of our psyche. Peep into our most loving dream and worst nightmare.
And why DO we idolize the heroes? Because they have exactly what we're evolved to seek from our fellow humans -- status, fame, respect, sexual opportunities, resources.
If Superman tells the Metropolis police he needs ALL of them to stand around the Daily Planet building at 3 a.m., he GETS it. Not because they're afraid of his wrath, but because they believe in him. He's their king, even if he doesn't realize it.
We idolize the heroes for villainous reasons.
That’s a bit broad and naive.
Heck no 😂😂😂
The quotes in TV are meaningful and carry a lot of meaning. Thanks for sharing.
Villain are often wiser and willing to do what is necessary in the eyes of weaker and naive men
Sure but heroes are not naive and weak
Depend who really, those in the video are good villain, but lot of villain aren't that smart
Tho often a story will revolve around a younger hero and an older villain, in those case the villain being wiser and more experienced in general while the hero is more naive makes sense
Villains are selfish people who hurt others because they are convinced only their way is the right way. They are called villains for a reason.
This is the best video I have ever watched or will watch on youtube.
I think Tony Soprano could've been there as well
Always.
He’s not a great villain just a sympathetic one. He’s just a rock in a hard place he’s not actually morally redeemable
Finally someone who appreciates that homelander speech.
If Hannibal wasn't on the thumbnail, I don't think I would've watched it
That second quote. Damn.
And of course, "chaos is a ladder".
Littlefinger is just damn iconic that any scheming us now called "Pulling a littlefinger".
Peter Baelish was a great character I loved the Varys and baelish interaction‘s
1:31 Wise words to heed
Glad to see Deadwood make an appearance here, and with my favourite scene too.
That first Negan quote was dead on. His character arc destroyed the show, but still
The lemonade speech from The Fall of the House of Usher... inspired me
1:55 that's gold
These quotes from 'villains' scream reality & philosophy!... Experiences being terrifying teachers!
Homelander is a narcissist having a temper tantrum and the Littlefinger ladder clip is just silly if you aren’t a sociopath. Endlessly chasing power or success at the cost of love or your country or your faith in practice becomes “forsake everything that makes life worth living for an unstable addictive feeling of pleasure”
Homelander is being completely literal. He's not giving anyone advice. He's just taking the power he has and exercising it. It would be like the president not saying "anyone can be the president if they work hard enough" and instead saying "Well, I'm president, so you do what I say."
@@darrennew8211 But it’s way worse than that because he delusionally thinks he’s morally superior to everyone because he has the most power. He violently murders people because he thinks their lives don’t matter compared to him. He’s always on a childish power trip and is unable to control himself. People try to control him because they’re afraid of a sociopath misusing his power even more.
@@darrennew8211the guy who popped JFK's head would like to have a word about that
@@darrennew8211do you know how presidents work my man 😂😂😂
Its only silly if you come from a family with some wealth or even middle class in America. When you grow up in poverty it makes perfect sense. Chaos doesn't have to be criminality, its seizing the opportunity to climb our of the projects even at the expense of those around you. You have never starved, nor witnessed the pits that humans will sink to constantly. You wouldn't understand
Why watching breaking bad would always feels like coming back home after a long time❤
At 6:00 from the moment I saw Homelander, I knew this was a video worth watching until the end... hahaha. Now, in all seriousness, these quotes come from specific contexts, whether from science fiction characters or characters that are clear representations of the worst aspects of human behavior. While some of the ideas they express may seem like universal truths, many of them are rooted in feelings of hatred, envy, and rage. For me, these negative emotions are just different facets of fear. We all know that a good, brave, and honorable person must first learn to harness the power of fear, and the rest will follow...😌👌
1:03 Swearengen is one of those rare characters that will have you, for a whole week after bingeing Deadwood, being a little more him in your head. 2:03 Omar, too.
All of this sounds good out of context until you realize who said it and why they said it.
thats the point of good villains. its the context that frames the tragedy or evil they are in, but the points are, from their own point of view, valid and legitimate.
@@Whippenberg or to manipulate others with those arguments.
@@Nightmare704RY holy fuck it’s so obvious spotting people with a sub 75 IQ
Al Swearengen's quote is good in and out of context, and when you realize who said it. Swearengen arguably shouldn't even be on this list. As while he started off villainous his character was very much on a redemption arc as he cared about people in the community and about seeing the town of Deadwood prosper and survive.
The second quote, the one by Gus about family is purposely bullshit not only because we NEVER see Gus' family or if he has one, they are obvious beards for both his secret criminality and secret sexual orientation - but he says this to Walter to also play into his ego that to do this evil thing with him is to be a true man. It's not until the series finale that Walt is finally honest with Skyler that he did all this for himself and he loved it because he felt alive since he could have gotten out halfway through the second season leaving his family secure.
Man what?!
He was talking about Walt’s family, not his own… obviously.
@@EnderSpy358 That's what I'm trying to say; he's centering it on Walt to hand him an excuse for his ego to use even though Gus does not believe in that macho rule about family for himself.
@@ernestomoreno4409 Dude had the $700k he said he needed to walk away in the second season but kept staying not for family but for himself until it killed him.
Gus was bullshitting Walt so Walt could bullshit himself.
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Gus clearly did not beliee what was coming out of his mouth, but that doesnt make his quote invalid.
His quote is applicable to today's society, specially because of how men are treated nowadays.
this is such a great video! i love how you highlighted the complexity of these characters. but honestly, i think some of those villains had points that, while clever, revealed a really dark side to human nature that we shouldn't glorify. it's a bit unsettling to agree with them, don’t you think?
Crazy how we can relate to the villains so much. I feel like an anti hero at times like this
You relate easily to villains? I don't. There was this guy who decided Erik "Killmonger" Stevens was his god whom he would worship all his life, even though Killmonger willingly SHOT HIS GIRLFRIEND DEAD TO GET AT HIS ENEMY.
I wouldn't do that. I'd NEVER do that to someone I loved. To hell with whether or not that's a weakness in me that can be exploited -- it JUST ISN'T RIGHT! And why would I sympathize with anyone who could do something that cruel?
This is one of those comments that later on, you'll cringe at.
I needn't mock you, for you will be doing it yourself soon enough.
Have you perhaps considered the fact that these are *villains* and not anti-heroes is because the ends do not justify the means? Or that while these might be interesting pieces of wisdom, they are more often than not *excuses and justifications* for these people? Look at homelander, for god's sake!
Boy needs help.
Unlike the other responders, I get what you're saying.
@@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 who said the villains are not anti heroes???? I’m cringing now. I do consider myself anti hero. Yes! why is y’all being extra about it?
Besides Little finger's actions he was a really smart man and he surely spoke wise words
Those first 2 quotes are everything that society today is missing
I was going through the initial stages of my divorce when that Breaking Bad episode aired. The whole "a man provides" speech was something I took very much to heart. Talk about life imitating art...
I really wish they had included Littlefinger's last advice to Sansa.
Fight every battle everywhere, always, in your mind. Everyone is your enemy, everyone is your friend. Every possible series of events is happening all at once. Live that way and nothing will surprise you. Everything that happens will be something that you’ve seen before."
He gave her a glimpse of how his mind works, genuine advice as to how he had survived, and the irony iof Sansa using it to bring his demise.
It was brilliant.
Always be prepared for the worst case scenario and backstabbing, that way you'll be seen as a paranoid person but you'll never be caught off-guard or get tricked by someone.
His death in the show was bullshit.
Beautiful words
@@joeschmo4646 Clearly not George's writing. Kind of his fault for not finishing Winds of Winter in time.
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"Cruelty is a gift that humanity has given itself." Let the gravity of that statement sink in....
Gustavo's is just a masterful example of his manipulation of Walter
Chaos isn't a pit! Chaos is a ladder. F**ken epic
these are all true,some even relatable to my life
Second one and the one by Homelander are almost complete bullshit even without context. The entire point of Superman is that he uses his powers to set a positive example to multiply the effects of what he does so he doesn't have to save everyone if people do what he does either as fellow superheroes or as good people; Homelander is just a petty violent manchild who avoids helping whenever he can't get attention for it.
"If that's true... If you don't know who I am... Then maybe, your best course... would be to tread lightly"
- Heisenberg
How about "No one ever truly believes they are the villain."
This is wild but true. 😊
"Its all in the game tho, right??" Is highly underrated dialogue from the wire
They're meaningful quotes, but almost all of them revolve around a functional nihilism that values the self above others as a foregone assumption. I'm not trying to sound smart, I'm sure even my point has holes (and this is still a great compilation of great villains, who compel us because they're well written!), but these villains are only right if instrumental skill is the only form of impact and survival is the only source of meaning.
Every one of these villains is defeated by willingness to care more about someone else than yourself.
Al Swearengen's quote was literately him inspiring a newspaperman to continue his crusade for truth as the town was besieged by a corrupt and cruel robber baron. Moreover Al Swearengen is neither defeated nor arguably even a true villain. He may have started off a villain, but his character was explicitly on a redemption arc as his own interests were staunchly aligned with that of the whole town of Deadwood.
This is my issue with this video.
Crazy how we could make sounds in our mouths and influence emotions in others emotionally. Insanely epic.wild.
They're not right. Especially the ones that talk about being 'A man'. They're not right. They're broken.
Absolutely. The Gus quote is him making up bullshit to manipulate Walter and his ego and his desire to be ‘a man’, when in reality it’s all bullshit and he’d have been a far better person by not having those insecurities out on him.
Oh, I can't wait for Homelander to go completely off his fucking rocket! It'll be scary, it'll be vengeful, it'll be spectacular! He's the only one of the superhero heroes/villains that actually scare me on screen. Anthony Starr is brilliant!
The only reason Rick and his group claimed "moral superiority" was because they defeated him. They killed plenty of husband's, fathers girlfriends etc... All they did in the end was prove him right. Niklaus was just an abusive brat who couldn't get people to like him the way he preferred so he took it out on them constantly most of all Marcel.
Might makes right
@@WOLVESOFWARGAMING it does
Rick and Cie literally attacked the savior first by slaughtering one of their camp in their sleep, but then cry when Negan kill only two of them
@@guifire9747 Bro people still believe this shit lmao. Dumbass they tried to kill daryl and abraham in s6x09 first, so they didnt attack "first". Did u forget when Negan pretty much had sex slaves, when he practically enslaved people, when he had coerced 2 communities to spend up their resources for him otherwise they will literally be killed. Lol Rick and his community was fucked up but Negan was much worse
Children arguing over morality.
Rau Le Cruset deserves to be here
Remember, Le Creuset (yes, it's spelled that way) manipulated both sides in what was already a racist, jingoist war of mutual hatred into going at each other in an apocalyptic showdown that would destroy the world. And no, I don't think the issues he was dealing with make him more understandable or sympathetic. Would you do something so horrific and despicable?
@@seanbigay1042 if I had experienced his life then yes. He hated his existence and I would too.
His existence, suffering and fury originated from the greed of human beings to be better than anybody else even using inhumane ways, which means that actions against mankind originating from his fury against his destiny will be held responsible by mankind which made him
because if they didn't do such experiments he wouldn't(or couldn't) be doing this in the first place
"A woman that can be bought isn't worthy if having"
My mind went Kaplow!!
To counteract any of you trying to see these guys as justified, I am going to list off the things they got up to in their home series’
Negan: Lead a protection racket marketed by indentured servitude, a cult of personality surrounding himself, and the sexual slavery of several women, one of whom suffered from diabetes that was used to keep her from running away.
Gus Fring: Ran the largest production of meth in the western United States on behalf of a cartel, soley so he could one day massacre every member of said cartel in revenge for the death of his lover (super badass)
Klaus Mikaelson: Is a vampire which disqualifies him from having any say in anything.
Al Swearingin: Crime lord who is just generally abusive to everyone, even the people he likes (still better than Hearst).
Lorne Malvo: A freelance hit man who is trying to provoke the guy he’s talking to into hiring him, not for money but to make the guy a morally worse person.
Little finger: Provoked an economic collapse and civil war because he was butt hurt that a girl he liked didn’t like him back
Wilson Fisk: Trying to drive people out of their homes with intimidation and brute force so he can put up pricey condos. Also a crime lord.
Omar Little: Raids the stash houses of drug dealers so much that he ends up getting marked for death. His actions change nothing about his community and he is ultimately just another aspect of Baltimores moral corruption.
Hannibal Lecter: cannibalistic serial killer manipulating a mentally vulnerable man into suffering a psychosis out of personal obsession.
Stringer Bell: A man trying to legitimize the drug trade out of egotism and entitlement.
Homelander: Murderer, rapist, tried to provoke international unrest for personal gain.
Yeah dude we all know what they did. Just because the bad guy said it doesn't make it any less true. After all everything they're saying was written by a writer. Somebody who I can bet is a good person overall.
Nobody is trying to justify the characters' actions. We just see these statements as simple truths.
In other words: a wide variety of successful men.
You were raised to find such behaviors distasteful -- by men who DID such behaviors and didn't want you as competition. In the long run, Ghenghis Khan's DNA is present in half the population of Asia, and yours will never be.
@@stevenscott2136holy fuck, you’re actually implying that to be successful you have to be evil. The situation with genghis* khan is not one that the world looks at and thinks “woah what an incredible good contribution to society that he raped so many women that he has a lot of descendants” ultimately he’s dead, the women suffered, and he’s still considered a terrible person who killed and murdered people. If you consider that to be successful person by any metric you are lost and I hope you find your way
You're trying to condemn Negan? 😂😂😂 You can't condemn someone who did what it took to survive in an apocalyptic world. There is no such thing as Good or Evil. Moral and Immoral. Those are nothing more than useless man made ideas to help protect the fragility of civilization.
What Negan did was survival. And the best way to survive is to make it easier on yourself by doing WHATEVER it takes. And he did just that. He manipulated sheep into following him to create an encampment, then an army. That army (like an ant colony) spread out finding and acquiring, either by peace or force, resources to survive. All the while Negan played it smart and stayed safe in the base unless he Had to come out.
He accrued mates (another part of survival). If necessary he could use them as rewards, bargaining chips, or payment. Again survival is about doing whatever it takes. And Negan is a master of survival.
"All it takes to make a man insane is one BAD DAY" ~ jerome valeska, Gotham
As a kid we admired the heroes, as adults we understand the villains were usually right
Lol what? I think you probably just need a hug.
@@matthewlowe2193 don't we all?
Ain't that that truth
@@julianjohnson9548 The villains are usually right, the way they go around trying to accomplish their goals is where they are wrong, there's always a better way of doing things or sending a message than hurting others who have nothing to do with what happened to them
I'm 19 and this is deep.
What makes a great villain is when they have a reason for their actions that not only do they truly believe to be right, but that they are able to make others understand why they are doing what they are doing.
Klaus isn't a villain he is an anti hero
So the antichrist will not be the opposite of Christ?
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Wow. Intense but wise. Props.
Ending the video with homelander
was perfection.
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Little Finger was such a great villain
0:52 I disagree, Gus. If you're not even loved you leave. Especially if you have kids and you want them to look up to you. No one looks up to a plowhorse.
You don’t have kids
@@sagethorburn9821I'm not saying leave your kids. Leave the marriage immediately.
Unfortunately, society disagrees and once you 'put a ring on it' due to your fleeting emotions you have erred you are obliged to a lifetime of slavery under the pose of a happy family - why? Because you are a man.
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I have four and I agree with _him_ over you. Difference between Walt and I though is that I am respected by my colleagues and subordinates, respected by my consort (who, unlike married men, I'll permit to leave the moment she doesn't; she just doesn't get the kids, gossiping rights, my property, or the chance to come back), and the kids we have together.
A "man" who provides and protects but cannot preside nor is well-treated by those he provides for and protects is no man, but a Duh Ore Mat that suffers in silent desperation.
And I disagree with you, because you speak like a tyrantess who either has no man or is married to a mule that wishes he could be. I hope your kids have a better role model than you and guy who puts up with you; they probably won't make it otherwise.
You are supposed to choose well when getting married. If you choose but end up trying to leave, you must not have a father, if you do. He is just as a coward as you are.
First time seeing Vincent D'Onofrio as the Kingpin. About to binge watch Daredevil series just for him.
You forgot the "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" monologue
Mind you, it was Col. Jessup (Jack Nicholson in the movie) who couldn't handle the truth, not Lt. (JG) Kaffee (Tom Cruise). For all his gung-ho speechifying, it was Jessup who betrayed his country and let one of his own men die for his own benefit.
It doesn't matter
A hero is a man who gets others killed. A savior, is a man who dies, so that others may live.
where's joker ?
He is tv villain?
As I get older, it's the villains that start to make more sense in my life.
"A woman that can be bought is not worth having". 💯