Thank you, glad you like em :) I remember reading terrible stories about how stupidly hot those run. Maybe I got lucky, it's not the worst...but they are power hungry, that is for sure :)
One thing not accounted for, the GTX 480 did FAR better then the HD 5870 when DX 11 HW tessellation was enabled (IE in Crysis 2) which made the choice up for me. My EVGA reference card is still going strong though!
Yeah, AMD had a superior GPU architecture from 2007 to 2015, but people still bought Nvidia... AMD was cheaper, because with smaller chips(smaller die area - mm^2) competed with much bigger Nvidia chips. Also both had driver problems, not just AMD, I know from experience and from reading forums when Nvidia wasn't hunting them down.
My gtx 480 was a hot beast, it was a very good performing and supported card. I had an ati radeon 4850 before it so it was a large upgrade going up a gen and tier.
@@Lucromis Back then there were big improvements between generations. Also the 4850 was only 20% slower than the 280 and the former costed 200$ while the later was 650$
@@ismaelsoto9507 AMD: "Our gpu has great performance while being power efficient." crowd: clapclapclapclap Nvidia: "Our gpu can fry bacon!" crowd goes wild
Another good point for the AMD is its awesome rétrocompatibility. If you plan on using it for a rétro XP machine, the AMD can run older DirectX 4/5/6 games without problem. On the same machine you can run Windows 95 games to Crysis Era games. Thats Amazing. The 480 will refuse to run the games, or everything will be corrupteur!
I owned the GTX 480. I remember it getting such a bad rap due to heat and noise issues some people had with it. I had a reference card and it performed incredibly. It beat the GTX 280 SLI setup I replaced with ease. I eventually upgraded to a GTX 580, but I really loved both GPU's.
The problem with the 480 was it came out 6 months late, cost 100$ more and was only 5% faster, which disappeared rapidly when you overclocked the 5870 while the 480 was already near thermal limits out of the box. That was also one of the generations nvidia pushed out a driver that hardware killed cards too. Good times.
Hi. Good video. Just a request but I understand if it becomes too much work. A test of cards price against the same price. I guess that would mean against the GTX470 but since the 5870 was half a year old by then maybe it got a price cut and competed more against the 460. I don’t remember but I do know AMD over the years have often cut the prices of their cards aggressively and I have almost always managed to get them under MSRP. At least it used to be the case 10-15 years ago. I understand that you have enough with these flagships battles for now though so just a tip for future videos.
Hello mate - what is up :) I was in two minds about this round - it would make more sense to compare the 470 with the 5870, but then, when I tried to match up GPU's for videos, this generation made no sense due to Nvidia being late. Next round will be SPOT on - I take pricing from TechPowerUp. Thanks for your feedback, I like to hear it. :)
@@nexus_tech It was a stupid joke :) At that time, i think you can recall that it was named the "Ferminator" so that is what i was alluding to. But anyway i hope you continue this series of versus cards. They are great !
@@drupiROM Yes, the gtx 480 with the original stock cooler with the stock fan curve(pre driver update) ran hot as hell, considerng back then 82.4C was the maximum temperature GPUs ran at.
For my 'retro modern' crt gaming setup I bought a Asus Matrix 5870. Running at CRT resolutions, with high refresh rates, it has been a very capable card - even running on Mac OS, unflashed, with a boot screen, even in Snow Leopard (10.6). I do a lot of cRPGs so, it seems, that my CPU matters more - this card lives in a Mac Pro from 2010 that I managed to acquire for next to nothing. It's a monster from 2010/2011 - I've tried several operating systems, but - weirdly, perhaps - it seems like Linux (Garuda) was the sweetspot, but really... I mean REALLY... prone to breaking on update. Edit: The really neat thing about the Matrix was that it had 2 gb of memory... at the end of 2010, early 2011. It also had the light feature to monitor CPU load, a practical RGB sort of thing...
@@nexus_tech I got lucky on eBay, the seller took my best offer - the 'buy it now' ones are stupid expensive. I've tried to find other Matrix edition cards, but... wow... those get up there quick (980ti is my dream for that system). Thanks for responding :)
@@ivankovachev8835 When the mosfets are at 100% that means the core and the VRAM its consuming 100% of the amps and to be fair 520W you eat when you OC a little the card depending on the Subventor. Some are OC some or Under OC. So an average of 500W for an RTX 4090? well you need a hell of game to max out that GPU without passing the Monitor refresh rate.
@@DanielCardei The founder's edition is good and consumes 450W, but almost all 3rd party ones are overvolted and overclocked and consume 480-520W. Now yes you can manually reduce the power consumption a lot. For example reduce the clocks by 6-9% and undervolt, and the 4090 drops to 300-350W. But running a 3rd party versions stock, that's how much the card consumes in heavy games and benchmarks. And that is way too much. GPUs were capped at 230-250W TDP for a reason and we made fun of GPUs that exceeded it for a reason. It was a great engineering standard, but Nvidia got desperate with the rtx 3000 series. Same goes for CPUs but they should cap at 140W. Now GPUs are fat, heavy, long, heat the room and in general the only positive is that they get 10%(1.1x) extra performance for a 1.5x more power consumption. . The RTX 4070Ti should be the highest-end GPU of the generation and the RX 7800 XT from AMD should be theirs. The RTX 3070 and RX 6800 should have been the highest-end GPUs of their generations. The other option would be for AMD and Nvidia to stop pushing the clock speeds to the moon to get an extra 5-10% performance so that they are on top in the dumb review benchmarks, which would reduce the power consumption of cards by 30-35%
Hi Michael - in my opinion it's the better of the two, especially being 100USD cheaper when new! Next round will be be more balanced! :) Glad you liked the video
I got to get me that 5870 it has a backplate and looks like muscle car.I have rx 570 but retro original cards are pure nostalgia fun.Oc 5870 was fast as gtx 295 for just 400$.Today you can buy only junk like rtx 4060 or rx 7600 for that money.
@@nexus_tech wait. They're that rare ? I just found one for 15€ in a french auction website in about a week for my first ever build about a month ago. Or may be i was just that lucky or they are just not that rare in France
Fermi es la caña aun tengo SLI de 480 y una 470 Gtx, para mi de los mas miticos junto al G80, th-cam.com/video/uMG3DZYyP6c/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=FcJose Eso capturando con Msi Afterburner y un HDD malo que pierde mas de 35% de rendimiento.
thanks for these videos! I remember the huge stock of gtx 480s that were left over for months after the 500 series came out, those little ovens...
Thank you, glad you like em :) I remember reading terrible stories about how stupidly hot those run. Maybe I got lucky, it's not the worst...but they are power hungry, that is for sure :)
One thing not accounted for, the GTX 480 did FAR better then the HD 5870 when DX 11 HW tessellation was enabled (IE in Crysis 2) which made the choice up for me. My EVGA reference card is still going strong though!
Pretty Awesome
thank you for the video
they really do eat a lot of powah
just like the latest GPU's
though under-volting is always an option
GTX 480 came 6 month after, was $100 more expensive, ran hotter used more power but still sold more cause it was 5-10% faster.
NVidia marketing moment :p
Yeah, AMD had a superior GPU architecture from 2007 to 2015, but people still bought Nvidia... AMD was cheaper, because with smaller chips(smaller die area - mm^2) competed with much bigger Nvidia chips.
Also both had driver problems, not just AMD, I know from experience and from reading forums when Nvidia wasn't hunting them down.
My gtx 480 was a hot beast, it was a very good performing and supported card. I had an ati radeon 4850 before it so it was a large upgrade going up a gen and tier.
@@Lucromis Back then there were big improvements between generations. Also the 4850 was only 20% slower than the 280 and the former costed 200$ while the later was 650$
@@ismaelsoto9507 AMD: "Our gpu has great performance while being power efficient."
crowd: clapclapclapclap
Nvidia: "Our gpu can fry bacon!"
crowd goes wild
Another good point for the AMD is its awesome rétrocompatibility. If you plan on using it for a rétro XP machine, the AMD can run older DirectX 4/5/6 games without problem. On the same machine you can run Windows 95 games to Crysis Era games. Thats Amazing. The 480 will refuse to run the games, or everything will be corrupteur!
I owned the GTX 480. I remember it getting such a bad rap due to heat and noise issues some people had with it. I had a reference card and it performed incredibly. It beat the GTX 280 SLI setup I replaced with ease. I eventually upgraded to a GTX 580, but I really loved both GPU's.
The problem with the 480 was it came out 6 months late, cost 100$ more and was only 5% faster, which disappeared rapidly when you overclocked the 5870 while the 480 was already near thermal limits out of the box. That was also one of the generations nvidia pushed out a driver that hardware killed cards too. Good times.
eyyyy another battle lessgoo
have you tryed your AMD 7000 series cards with the new AMD 22.6.1 driver made for those video cards
Hello Stevin - no! OKAY! That's brilliant :) Thanks for heads up!
Hi. Good video. Just a request but I understand if it becomes too much work. A test of cards price against the same price. I guess that would mean against the GTX470 but since the 5870 was half a year old by then maybe it got a price cut and competed more against the 460. I don’t remember but I do know AMD over the years have often cut the prices of their cards aggressively and I have almost always managed to get them under MSRP. At least it used to be the case 10-15 years ago. I understand that you have enough with these flagships battles for now though so just a tip for future videos.
Hello mate - what is up :) I was in two minds about this round - it would make more sense to compare the 470 with the 5870, but then, when I tried to match up GPU's for videos, this generation made no sense due to Nvidia being late. Next round will be SPOT on - I take pricing from TechPowerUp. Thanks for your feedback, I like to hear it. :)
We need a review of new Amd driver for legacy gpus
Hello mate! Good shout, the 7000 series are due very soon :) Thank you
As creator of NimeZ drivers said it's a re brand of 1 year old driver. not gonna give you any performance boost sadly
That GTX480 is responsible for the heat wave outside :)
Huh! Well, this one is very cool as it seem! Hope you're well :)
@@nexus_tech It was a stupid joke :) At that time, i think you can recall that it was named the "Ferminator" so that is what i was alluding to. But anyway i hope you continue this series of versus cards. They are great !
@@drupiROM Yes, the gtx 480 with the original stock cooler with the stock fan curve(pre driver update) ran hot as hell, considerng back then 82.4C was the maximum temperature GPUs ran at.
@@ivankovachev8835 I still want one to play with and see for myself how it was :)
@@drupiROM IDK post GT 9000 series and pre-Maxwell(2008-2014) Nvidia is boring as hell, AMD is much ore interesting in that period.
Even the 5970 produced less heat with two GPUs on it than the 480, yet 480 was a pretty good card
480 was awful
found couple of Dell (?) HD5870 (ATI-102-C00101B) for 18e each in like new state, hardly anything can beat this price for budget gaming nowdays
Man! What a deal! This card is so good, only wish it had 2GB Vram! :) Thanks for dropping by, hope you enjoy :)
Oh yeah the HD 5870 finally i Love that
For my 'retro modern' crt gaming setup I bought a Asus Matrix 5870. Running at CRT resolutions, with high refresh rates, it has been a very capable card - even running on Mac OS, unflashed, with a boot screen, even in Snow Leopard (10.6). I do a lot of cRPGs so, it seems, that my CPU matters more - this card lives in a Mac Pro from 2010 that I managed to acquire for next to nothing. It's a monster from 2010/2011 - I've tried several operating systems, but - weirdly, perhaps - it seems like Linux (Garuda) was the sweetspot, but really... I mean REALLY... prone to breaking on update.
Edit: The really neat thing about the Matrix was that it had 2 gb of memory... at the end of 2010, early 2011. It also had the light feature to monitor CPU load, a practical RGB sort of thing...
That's one legendary card ! Wish it was not as RARE so I could get one :)
@@nexus_tech I got lucky on eBay, the seller took my best offer - the 'buy it now' ones are stupid expensive. I've tried to find other Matrix edition cards, but... wow... those get up there quick (980ti is my dream for that system).
Thanks for responding :)
Just imagine GTX 480 in Uk with current electricity prices :D
Worth it! haha!
You know the rtx 4090 consumes 480-520W the gtx 480 consumes 230W.
@@ivankovachev8835 When the mosfets are at 100% that means the core and the VRAM its consuming 100% of the amps and to be fair 520W you eat when you OC a little the card depending on the Subventor. Some are OC some or Under OC. So an average of 500W for an RTX 4090? well you need a hell of game to max out that GPU without passing the Monitor refresh rate.
@@DanielCardei The founder's edition is good and consumes 450W, but almost all 3rd party ones are overvolted and overclocked and consume 480-520W. Now yes you can manually reduce the power consumption a lot.
For example reduce the clocks by 6-9% and undervolt, and the 4090 drops to 300-350W.
But running a 3rd party versions stock, that's how much the card consumes in heavy games and benchmarks.
And that is way too much. GPUs were capped at 230-250W TDP for a reason and we made fun of GPUs that exceeded it for a reason. It was a great engineering standard, but Nvidia got desperate with the rtx 3000 series. Same goes for CPUs but they should cap at 140W.
Now GPUs are fat, heavy, long, heat the room and in general the only positive is that they get 10%(1.1x) extra performance for a 1.5x more power consumption.
.
The RTX 4070Ti should be the highest-end GPU of the generation and the RX 7800 XT from AMD should be theirs.
The RTX 3070 and RX 6800 should have been the highest-end GPUs of their generations.
The other option would be for AMD and Nvidia to stop pushing the clock speeds to the moon to get an extra 5-10% performance so that they are on top in the dumb review benchmarks, which would reduce the power consumption of cards by 30-35%
You should get 5870 2GB, to make sure if it's really VRAM limitation :)
It's called eyefinity 6 édition
I would, there's none available :)
@@nexus_tech Dunno if you ever found one and made a video on it, but I saw one today on ebay but its on the expensive side
I hope you test next the 580
Heh! 500 series are coming soon :)
love the videos, really wished the hd 5870 won tho.
Hi Michael - in my opinion it's the better of the two, especially being 100USD cheaper when new! Next round will be be more balanced! :) Glad you liked the video
I got to get me that 5870 it has a backplate and looks like muscle car.I have rx 570 but retro original cards are pure nostalgia fun.Oc 5870 was fast as gtx 295 for just 400$.Today you can buy only junk like rtx 4060 or rx 7600 for that money.
You should have gotten the eyefinity édition of the AMD card that would had been a more fair fight
Oh I would love to man! :) they are like gold dust!
@@nexus_tech wait. They're that rare ? I just found one for 15€ in a french auction website in about a week for my first ever build about a month ago. Or may be i was just that lucky or they are just not that rare in France
Should have gone for the 2GB HD5870 if it was possible, that 1GB VRAM chokes it in newer games.
If you count games as one point, i think you must count synthetic tests as one point
Hello mate :) Every game gives a point, there were few draws hence only 3 and 4 points were awarded. Thanks for watching :)
The temps on ur GTX480 seem very low. I recently tested and they hit 90c.
I was well impressed! Was expecting 90's too! :)
This is all on a i9 though do the test with a older processor
I play crossout, so please beachmark this game. Thx
No problem, love the game! :)
Gta iv prefers older cards
It's too smooth in this video! :) Not used to it!
the 5870 should be better than the 480 , the 5870 needed the 2gb f even 3/4gb i dont understand why such powerful cards had low vram example the 780ti
There was a 2GB model, very hard to come by! And agreed, would be a lot more viable with more VRAM! The 780Ti will be tested soon, stay tuned :)
560 Ti when? 🤣
Soon! :) 500 series are due very soon :)
@@nexus_tech Good to know, thanks :) Still using 560 Ti, works great :)
Fermi was a total failure
Fermi es la caña aun tengo SLI de 480 y una 470 Gtx, para mi de los mas miticos junto al G80, th-cam.com/video/uMG3DZYyP6c/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=FcJose
Eso capturando con Msi Afterburner y un HDD malo que pierde mas de 35% de rendimiento.
Why not bechmark new games?? Who cares about old games?!
I do mate, love them lots :) But, as we are getting along, more VRAM becomes available and more modern games will come for testing - stay tuned!