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The 2020 Volvo S60 T6 is a Charming Luxury Sedan that Needs More Passion Behind the Wheel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ธ.ค. 2020
- Volvo has built a long-standing reputation of offering luxury cars with higher levels of comfort and safety over its competitors. The #VolvoS60 plays in the heart of the compact luxury sedan segment and it received a full redesign for 2019. For 2020, changes are slim, but we got our hands on the more comfort oriented #S60Inscription for with, complete with massaging front seats, the 316 HP turbo/supercharged engine, and a more comfort oriented suspension tune which should give this model #S60 an even cushier ride over the more sport oriented R-Design trims.
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Good morning guys! This video is one that we filmed back in Sept. For 2021, Volvo has made very little changes to the S60 but we heard rumors of them adding AWD to the T5 engine and discontinuing the T6 engine option. Sounds like Volvo is getting ready to move their lineup to mostly PHEV's and full BEV vehicles. The T6 engine is still much preferred to us over the T5, so pick this up while you still can!
When are you going to do Nissan Rogue review
T5 AWD is already available in Canada. Haven't heard rumours about discontinuing the T6 though.
@Keej Vaj only the nissans/infinitis with the cvt’s. All the nissans/infinitis are not junk they have motors that can run forever and offer the best value for luxury and performance. They also make the best looking mainstream and luxury cars. Also you get a lot for your money. They are not all junk. If you are looking at one with a cvt lease it or if you finance it get drivetrain warranty for as long as you can. But if you are looking at one without a cvt go ahead and buy it and you wont regret it. They make one of the best v6/v8 motors out there.
@Keej Vaj no one likes cvt’s lol.
@@nintendoatarikiller for 2021 Volvo will not discontinue the T6
Sofyan: "the key looks good, it feels really expensive with high quality."
Also sofyan: *throws key into cup holder 😆
I was like WTF why throw the damn key like that!?
I actually disagree with the statement that the S60 needs more “passion behind the wheel.” I appreciate that Volvo bucked the trend of this segment and took a more comfort and luxury oriented focus with this. No one else is really doing that other than maybe Mercedes with base versions of the C Class. I think there is certainly passion in the S60, but it just takes the form of style and comfort, and that’s totally okay. Not every entry in this segment needs to deliver thrilling driving dynamics and hair-on-fire acceleration, which is what Sofyan seems to be saying here. This is easily in my top 3 for this segment, and unpopular opinion, but I would take this over a C Class in a heartbeat.
The problem is, according to many reviews the S60 isn´t that comfortable either...
Audi has always erred on the side of comfort over sport, and an A4/5 is much more comfortable than the S60 while being both quicker AND more fuel efficient for the same price. There might be a marginal safety advantage on the Volvo, but frankly the A4 is a more competent vehicle in every other department.
@@vomErsten On the comfort-to-sport spectrum, I’d honestly put the A4/A5 smack in the middle, and I’d put the S60 (R-Design aside) further towards the comfort end. A4/A5 are certainly more daily driver livable than many entries in this segment, but don’t seem to be trying to be as much of a luxury cruiser as, say, this S60 or luxury line C300 models. Fair point on them being faster and more fuel efficient at the same time, but I find their aesthetic to be sterile and conservative to a fault, personally. The S60 may not drive quite as well, but it has enough other redeeming qualities for it to likely be my personal choice over an A4/A5. That’s just me, though.
@@williamlong2682 It really does depend on the trim. MB is incredibly bipolar, with the normal trims being snooze-mobiles and the AMG trims being nuts. Audi has a tighter, more consistent ride quality that results in their A-level cars being a little more aggressive but their RS-level cars being too soft when compared to their MB counterparts. BMW is consistently the quickest and sportiest of the bunch. Overall perceptions of each brand are shaped by their performance options by the design of their marketing, and from that perspective is where I come from saying Audi is the comfortable/practical one. I've also driven an A5 and it really just floats along the road; not my cup of tea, but it was way more plush than the stiff S60. Definitely agree that the Volvo is a looker and the Audi is kind of bland. If the Volvo S60 Polestar Engineered drove like an Audi S4, I'd be a customer.
@@williamlong2682
I've driven a T5 S60 for over a year now. I'd say that gas mileage is average. At first I was bit annoyed (and you have to use premium gas) but then I remembered that this car is 4000 lbs and they use much stronger high boron steel.
Long story short, you're much more likely to survive a crash with minimal injuries in a S60.
This thing is a beautiful luxury sedan. It doesn’t need to be “sporty” with tacky red brake calipers
So true it classy and good and safe car. That all you need
yeah, not every car has to be sporty
Im so sick of all these reviewers saying they have to be excited by every car , this would be great after a hard day to get a nice massage on the way home from work in a luxury sedan that wont break the bank. Oh and btw that engine sound is perfectly fine I think he has some sort of a grudge against Volvo at least that's how it seems!
I love red calipers! It would accentuate the wheel.
True, and 5.4 to 60 in a car like this is really plenty fast, most hot hatches don't even come close. The reviewer doesn't really get this car when he wants more 'passion' (louder exhaust, stiffer suspension for faster cornering and less comfort, etc.).
Volvo is underrated! Best looking SUV too
Good review. I own the 2019 T6R version coming from a BMW and love this car. The 4 cylinder is only lacking the sound but has amazing power/get up and go. Another big plus is the BMWs I’ve owned were always in the shop. This car hasn’t had one single issue.
I was gonna ask about the reliability of these, good to hear they're solid!
We rest our case!!!!!
Helps that it has maintenance included too!
@@JamesRussoMillas if you care about reliability dont buy this car all that pressure from the supercharger and the turbo wear out the motor quick if you are looking for a reliable volvo get a 2015 or 2014 with lower miles with either the 5 cylinder or 6 cylinder they can last way over 200k miles
Our S60 was the worst car we ever owned. Never going to buy European again.
I applaud Volvo for not following the crowd.
Picked up my S60 T6 R-Design yesterday and WOW. What a car. It's quiet, comfortable, and FAST. The H/K sound system is amazing. LOVE IT.
Edit! I was driving through "mexico" the other day with some others in fast expensive sedans and was shocked to learn that all Volvo's sold world wide are now limited to 180kph. So if top speed is your thing look elsewhere.
Sofyan: "The Volvo key is still very high quality...."
Also Sofyan: SLAMS the key into the cup holders!🤣 Testing that Scandinavian durability, eh??
I can tell you this a person seeking a Volvo is not cross shopping a tesla, I sold them for 2 years in Denver and I never heard that word come out of their mouth. Most buyers their were older as in 45+ or young educated families in their 30's wanting luxury and safety that Volvo offers. Their not falling behind in safety believe me, steering assist is not safety its an assistance program. Check out their latest crash testing, it took 2 55 mph impacts to make the A pillar collapse. Their have been plenty of people who have lost their lives in other cars unfortunately due to poor safety, but assistance programs have certainly helped to prevent crashes.
Volvo has been and is the safest car for the past 30 years. Plus they are super confortable and the materials used are way better than cars of the same price range. (So you wont have to worry about bad material selection or manufacturing errors caused by a rush to bring cars to market.... as you see with most Teslas). Volvo is only for the people who want luxury, comfort without the need to show off in the street.
There. Their. They're. All different.
@@georgesnyder5337 5 months later and still don’t give a hoot. Sometimes I’m just lazy and don’t want to hit the apostrophe. Along with autocorrect if it don’t fix it I don’t care it reads the same. I’m a math and science major for a reason, unless needed in a professional email.
@@anxheloripa449 Exactly, even when the major auto manufacturers get rolling on the EV’s, the quality will be better and actually work.
@@whatchis1120 what a CF.
I literally just bought a 2021 Volvo S60 momentum. coming out of a 2015 bmw series 2 and I must say THE SOUND OF THE VOLVO. Detail (interior or exterior) IS PERFECT. I must say I probably will never go to another car dealership or car brand. I really do feel like he might have a grudge against Volvo or something. A car like this shouldn’t need an “exacting engine sound or exhaust” that definitely doesn’t not fit the look. when you do a review don’t talk down a car because of a sound or feature that you personally lean towards. JUST SAYING.
This is a comment I was looking for. Similar to you except I have a 2015 3 series and I'm looking at volvo.
Yup just pulled the trigger on one of these after looking at a lot of different cars. The only other car I was considering was an A4 but I think this does luxury better and makes for a better daily, the sound system sounds a lot better too.
Agreed! I just bought a 2019 s60 momentum. I didn’t see anything else I loved in this class. He def has a grduge
I have this exact model! I absolutely love mine!!!
Well let me drive it !! 😂
@Big Cod So Far so good, but I'm leasing, so won't really know the long term
@@encino78 I'm curious, why do people lease?
@@HusseyStars Because it is smart. 1. Every 36 month you drive most modern vehicle. 2. With lease, you don't need to pull money out of the wallet. 3. With lease , you get free coverage and spend valuable time to enjoy the ride instead of looking for a car shop which will not fix your problem no matter how much you pay. 4. With lease payment you always get more for your monthly payment vs the buy. In short: you buy what appreciates and you lease what depreciates.
@Big Cod I have an S60 with a T6 engine since late 2019. I have about 16k miles on it. Reliability problems:
- My backseat 12v was not working(fixed under warranty)
- I had a check battery light(as per Volvo, it was 'reset' and has since had no problems)
-I had a check engine light which was actually an emission pipe issue, which was again fixed under warranty.
I wish it:
-had a button to immediately engage the cameras. I put the car in reverse then back to drive to trigger it.
-picked up speed a bit faster. sometimes the supercharger has a delay before picking up speed. There is a polestar optimized option but it doesn't on paper seem worth the price.
-didnt wear the brake pads so much using pilot assist.
Otherwise, it's a fantastic car. I'm not a very fast driver but 315hp is MORE than enough for me. It's extremely comfortable and this is an opinion, but I believe its design will age well a decade from now. I get many compliments on its look and comfort. The seats required some adjusting to my taste, but I love it.
I'd say it's wise to get this vehicle with a warranty.
I own and plan on keeping this thing for as long as possible. Every time I go inside, I take a look at the S60 and think, "Wow, this is such a wonderful car." Even years later.
Sold more than Lexus IS in 2019!
Makes sense as the IS was pretty terrible when new, and it's ancient now.
Yeah... that's unfortunately not impressive. But I agree its a great car and deserves its due.
Drives a Volvo with supercharger and turbo and compares it to a Tesla. Comparing apples and oranges.
Says it's expensive but also wants it to self drive. You contradict yourself in your reviews. Can't complain about price and want all this tech, it's not free. Smh
Right! His reviews confuse me. Saw one for a Mazda 3 and he complained that the backseats didn’t have heated seats. Like dude, the car costs 22k 🤦🏾♂️
@@stefanossmitty3318 yeah he wants all the bells and whistles for cheap price.
He’s a pretty annoying guy to be honest.
Not everyone needs a "sporty and dynamic" car. They just want a comfortable and good car.
Everybody doesn't want sporty. Some of us want classy, and luxury.
Yes!!
Honest question........ why does every damn car need to be "sporty????" Some people want a smooth, quiet, comfortable, luxurious & plush compliant ride. Volvo has a Sport variant of this vehicle which you test drove. Their buyers aren't going to be mashing the gas pedal and driving like a bat out of hell. Perspective is EVERYTHING!
Seat comfort, ride quality, and noise are the qualities I look for. Most buyers probably value these over pedal mashing too.
Because plush doesn't sell. Ask Cadillac the V brand DNA saved them , and the whole reason AMG , M , RS etc exist. Even Bentley has a racing team 😂
It’s because luxurious ride alone doesn’t sell that well. If comfort/plush ride was such a selling point, companies like Buick would’ve been a sales leader long ago.
People spending 50k + also want their cars that handles and accelerates better. Sporty driving is also a luxury feature. Volvo can still achieve it without compromising luxury ride too much.
@@VaunShiz Granted luxury doesn't sell as well as it once did, however, the take rate on those sport versions aren't volume sellers either. The AMG, M, RS, etc started selling more when they were offered as trim lines as opposed to specific models. M-Sport versus M3, for example.
It also doesn't have to be an either or. There is room for both sport and luxury trim lines. Most buyers are looking for the lowest price with a luxury name.
This is my favourite Volvo it looks so sporty yet elegant 👍
I don't get how people aren't buying this car. It's gorgeous. The last generation was pretty nice looking but this is much better looking. Why get an xc60 over this is you really don't need the extra space? I'm really annoyed that people are buying crossovers almost by default and really nice sedans, like this one, aren't selling well.
The same issue happened in the 90s. The SUV was popular then.
Such a gorgeous vehicle
Super underrated
Here in Sweden they are everywhere
@@GLDGTR here in the us, Volvo sales numbers are quickly rising
Volvo has some of the best designs on the market right now. Beautiful color. I would like to see them offer a bit more performance in some of their models.
@@lamesamelame stfu
@@lamesamelame Volvo has nothing to do with the Uyghur crisis. And China doesn’t manufacture Volvos anymore, the production was moved back to Sweden. Geely just owns them now.
Volvo offers a software upgrade for better performance. Got a mailer a few months ago offering this.
Currently have a 2020 S60 Momentum T6 in Denim Blue. Well satisfied to date--I have owned C300's and 3 series Bimmers--this car gives them a run for their money as far as I am concerned.Don't need a car that makes a lot of noise as many Americans like--think Swedish reserve!
There's nothing wrong with the size of the screen, just because other auto manufactures are fighting for the biggest screen award, doesn't make it better. It's just a bigger distraction. At the same time, no reviewer can come up with a good argument for continuing to just keep making screens bigger but if one manufacture does it then automatically makes it better....not. Savagegeese couldn't have put it better saying screens are getting bigger just for the sake of size, not because it is actually more practical or usable.
IKR ! soon it will be all those 32 in flat screens nobody bought screwed on the dash !
My Mazda 6 has like an 8 inch touch screen and I think it’s completely fine I have the top trim and I never wish my screen was bigger I also really like how Mazda lets u turn the screen off
Volvo in 2022 adds a 72" screen, big enough yet? :)
The size of the screen here is small but I would argue the phone like orientation makes this even more distracting than the bigger screens out there.
I love Savagegeese. He keeps things real. Doesn't jump on bandwagons and calls out the B.S. in the car industries that other reviewers seem to ignore.
I have a 2019 S60 T6 R Design. I’m not sure why everyone complains about the engine sound. Supercharger whine is great on a GT500, why hate it so here? I think this actually adds character to the engine. I’d also take this above the German competition with fake engine noise through the speakers... win-win for Volvo.
The supercharger and turbo sounds are so great.
People just love to bitch. Like all the comments on the lack of reliability with Volvos. I don't know what they're talking about since they are high in being reliable. Too many people say this because decades ago, there were issues (same with many other brands) and then say the new ones still have issues. No they don't!
@@jeffs6090 even then- we had an ‘83 Volvo DL Wagon- put over 250K miles on it and it was still going strong.
Please Volvo, don't change to the whims of the race track wannabees, love the 1400W audio and the comfortable ride...the high MPG...the panaromic roof...Like the idea of driving 600miles w/o stopping and not breaking my back (with the sporty suspension) and no idiotic sounds.
Gorgeous sedan. One of the best looking ones.
G70, Giulia, s60 are the best looking in the class.
If it were be I’d probably pick this
I can’t believe how this Volvo S60 has massaging seats.
It’s kinda like me being in a Mercedes S-Class
Not even close to an S-Class. The moped engine kills any illusion of that, along with the ride.
@@MercOne notice they said kinda like
Doesn’t matter. It isn’t remotely like an S Class. Period.
@@MercOne actually it’s the closest thing to an s class
Yeah if you’re completely ignorant about cars.
Thing I noticed about Volvos is that they hardly ever rust. You see 15 year old ones all the time that look new.
Agreed. I have a 14 year old Xc90 that’s lived it’s entire life in Chicago (we can have brutal winters here). No rust on the body at all.
@@seanm3ify I wonder what it is? 1 year old Tesla’s already have rust lol
That's because they are designed to survive the Swedish winters with millions of tons with fricking salt on the roads. Good rust protection is a must.
I had a 2003 S60 after 15 years of out door parking I gave it to my brother, it is now his daily driver. Not one bit of rust on the car. In 17 years it was only in the shop 2 times for 1 night each. Best car I have ever owned. Keep in mind though that the 2003 was designed when it was pure Volvo no Ford or China involved. The leather interior does not have any rips. I would rate it as doing everything good, nothing great but everything good, a perfect daily driver with comfort and style.
@@PL-mu1cp yeah they made some good stuff. I wonder if the newer ones will hold up for similar amounts of time. Audi is pretty rust resistant too.
Volvo will always keep its luxury also the interior well built
Let’s count how many times he said “of course”
I liked the car and loved the interior but I'd never pay that price. My Mama didn't raise no fool...🤣😅😂
You are a wise man!
I just bought a S60 T6. It's my 5th Volvo. If you want more "passion behind the wheel," go find a P1800 or 1800ES. This car fits everything I've ever wanted in a car plus some.
Volvos are so beautiful, I hope they become more reliable
Yeah that's the question with these they've always looked good, but reliability is the question & they're expensive to fix outside of warranty
No issues with my 2017 XC90.
They’re generally reliable, compared to German cars
Maybe when they become electric allot fewer moving parts
@@xhonkeri4066 But there are still better choices available if reliability is important to you.
Throughout the review you say " I wish it had...or, for just $$$ you could add". Then you close with how the cost adds up to an overpriced vehicle. Driving experience, you forget that the majority of buyers are buying this car for the wives daily driver or a older guys comfort ride. Most buyers probably have a truck or sports car in the garage. Typical reviewer syndrome, want every feature for less money. Longterm reliability and service history rarely come into the conversation. Which, is my major concern with these high tech cars once out of warranty. Just a few comments. I never miss your videos.
Exactly, the reviewer syndrome. 🤦🏻♂️
I see the younger market is showing interest in Volvo.
I miss my S40, if Volvo would bring that back it would be amazing.
watched dozens of reviews and you have the best one. Great work:)
This reviews makes a lot of sense to me as a owner of this exact vehicle. It’s somewhat of a enigma, but always lovely to eyes.
I miss Volvo's C30 & S60R from the early 2000s.
@@lastwhtknight3002 that was a nice hardtop too.
I’m not a huge fan of sport models so this car sounds perfect for me. The more I see it, the more I like it. Looks classy, great interior, and the mpg is up there w the bmw 340. I think I might go w this one cause you get more for the money
I like your comparison to other cars. I appreciate that especially prices. You saved me time to search. Of course you need some passionate ride, sporty sound as well to spend around $60k. Keep it up. People want to hear all good and bad feedback about cars and that why we are here for.
My neighbor has a 2021 S60 R-Design... It's a beautiful car! It rides beautifully, he's not concerned about going 0-60 in 5 seconds... Is it really that important when you just want a loaf of bread and a quart of milk!?! For the average driver, it's probably one of the best automobiles on the road, and it moves when you press the accelerator!
I'm considering purchasing this car. I rented it while on vacation, the drive feels smooth and quiet.
I'm not sure about all the reliability gripes: The 2023 Volvo S60 has a predicted reliability score of 77 out of 100. A J.D. Power predicted reliability score of 91-100 is considered the Best, 81-90 is Great, 70-80 is Average // The experts at RepairPal give the Volvo brand a rating of Above Average for reliability! What's more, only 9% of Volvo repairs are considered severe vs. 12% across all makes and models. // The S60 finished in ninth place out of 25 cars in the executive car class in our most recent reliability survey. Volvo as a manufacturer ranked 15th in the most recent What Car? Reliability Survey out of 32 brands. I ONLY CARE, because I just bought one lol, and these ratings made ME FEEL SAFER about it. All these comments have me a little SCARED though!
These things depreciate by nearly half in the first year, which makes them an attractive used market car. However the maintenance cost is rather high.
So a 2020 Volvo with an MSRP of $70,000 will be $35,000 in 2021 and $17,500 in 2022? Of course you're speaking from an actual Volvo owner perspective, right?
@@ivanlowjones that's not how depreciation curves work. But these Volvo's have one of the highest depreciation rates.
The SUV's and the wagons are what hold their value, as that's what most people want from Volvo. An XC90 Inscription is 65-75 new you can negotiate off that, after 3-4 years 40-60k miles their usually in the 30's-40's. Yes a t5 momentum in any model falls off as they are the lease specials, and less desirable. It's the same for bmw, mercedes, audi.
Turbocharged and supercharged makes for some nice service department profits.
@@lordhades9455
You clearly stated that a new Volvo depreciates by 50% after the first year. Perhaps you should re-read your initial post.
This car is the mildly tall kid who shows up to high school in a button-up shirt and a blazer.
Hi ... I brought this model in April 2020, have only driven it 4000 miles my initial reaction is it’s a very nicely style car , great safety features and the handling at high speeds is solid, so far I have 1 minor complaint which center console door closure slides open exposing cup holders when I hit gas pedal from a dead stop. The 1 major complaint I have which might make me think twice about buying the car again at its price point is cabin noise, which to me is noisy, very disappointed cause I really love they styling. As far as maintenance issues not enough mileage on car to give an accurate assumption.
I have a 2011 C70 hard top convertible... no rust, people look at it and think it's a brand new car. It is SUCH a beautiful car, designed by Pininfarina, which has also designed Ferraris. It's a cruiser, not a barn burner. What these reviewers don't always get is it's not always about the thrill. If it's a beautiful, luxurious, safe, comfortable cruiser, it provides many people exactly what they are looking for. Volvo quality is top notch 👌
Why does every compact luxury sedan have to have red brake calipers, an aggressive sport exhaust, and a heart-pounding driving experience? That's not the point of the S60, T8 or not.
I drive a 2020 S60 T6 R-Design w/ Polestar and I enjoy it for how well-rounded it is. Decent power, refinement, and driving confidence. Did I mention the Nappa leather interior? Love it.
Why is He Soo Negative towards Volvo?? Not all of us want Loud Flashy Race cars to drive ! Not all of us want a boy Racer machine Red calipers & Loud Exhaust ! We want Safe Nice Ride Great Looking sedan ! Volvo Congratulations on not giving up on Sedans & Giving some of us A Great Looking Riding Sedan
You Should Do A Review On The 2021 Volkswagen Arteon SEL R-Line Sedan I Would Love To See That
0:31 At first i thought he said "light bird shit interior" lmao!
Nice car and so many nice ones coming out soon i only wish they had 6mth lease for older guys so i can fit in many of them before my time is up. But ill never give up my 991!
A better comparison is with the Lincoln MKZ and Lexus ES. FWD-biased platforms, softer, and more luxury oriented!
Mkz has ended production. Besides, it was an old design and would’ve been slaughtered in comparison to any modern peer
you prob feel bored driving it because you only drive high end cars
Right lol 😂 dude compares every single car like it’s a track car lol 😂
@@KuyaArbee I don’t get why everything has to get compared to a Tesla
@@Brian-zt5uw yea same... I never understood why people always have to compare....
He owned a miata lmao
@@KuyaArbee he never once did that , he compared it to the 3 series the C class , the G70 etc , stop being butthurt
A breath of fresh air; the closest we’ll get to a Saab
I think you're missing the point with the Volvo here. Red calipers on the luxury Inscription trim? Come on Sofyan. BMW, Audi etc already have the sporty angle covered. No one is going to the Volvo showroom looking for a sporty car, and when they did have them (V8s, S60R/V70R etc.), they didn't sell all that well. I think the S60 is aimed at comfort and luxury with a sleek look, and they've nailed it. If you look at their SUVs, they've applied the same formula with a lot of success. The XC90 and XC60 are not sporty, but they're comfortable and beautiful and the sales reflect that. The S60 just has the misfortune of trying to compete in a shrinking segment. If you can have an XC60 for the same amount of money (and you can), then few people will end up choosing the sedan. It's no surprise it isn't setting the sales charts on fire. Pretty sure all the other luxury brands are experiencing declining sales for their sedans as well. I applaud Volvo for going their own way and not trying to be Germany 2.0. How well is that working out for Cadillac, Genesis etc?
No one is going to Volvo showrooms for the S60 even now.
Story time: I got interested in Volvo when they started taking performance more seriously with their previous generation S60. Then the new one came out and was gorgeous and was marketed as being sporty, and early reviews were encouraging. This year, I went to a Volvo dealer to drive a T6 R-Design based on this initial data; it was horrible. The shift paddles didn't really respond well, the steering was completely dead with a lane-keep that tried to fight me making a left turn, the engine had a delay on spool-up that the competition just doesn't have...not sporting at all. The sales person even told me they had been getting a lot of interest in the car from customers of other brands for its looks, but few buyers. I suspect because it drives like shite.
So now that Volvo has publically committed to divesting themselves of ever building anything fast or fun, this car will die a slow death from neglect.
@@vomErsten I owned a previous generation 2015.5 V60, and the new gen S60/V60 performs better than the previous one, no question. If you look at the previous gen sales, there were barely any R-Design and Polestar versions sold versus regular T5 and T6 models. The shift paddles on an 8 speed auto were never going to compete with the dual clutch transmissions of the competition. The lane keep assist can be easily turned off with one button. The engine delay was not noticeable to me.. did you have it in the dynamic mode? Ultimately if you were looking for a sporty car, Volvo was never going to be the one. BMW, Audi and AMG can help you out there. Comfort and good looks? There's a Volvo for you. I ended up with the 2019 Volvo V90 Cross Country T6 AWD because I cared more about luxury and comfort in my bumper to bumper crawl of a commute, and this new generation of Volvos is noticeably better than the previous generation in that regard.
@@paulg9350 So, let me address that comment about the 8-speed up front. What you claim about an 8-speed automatic not being able to compete with a DCT is patently untrue. Audi, Lexus, BMW, and even Jaguar all use 8-speed automatics in their respective higher performance cars in this class and they are lightning quick. It is to the point that they don't bother developing the DCT anymore, and the only DCTs still in use are older models on mostly FWD-based platforms with lower power output (i.e. an A4 still has the DCT, but the S4 has an auto). Most of these brands are using the ZF8, but Lexus is using an Aisin unit similar to Volvo. Volvo simply did not tune their transmission well, full-stop. Yeah, it can shift on its own just fine but I do not ever drive my S3 in automatic mode and, since shift paddles were a front-row feature of the R-Design prior to MY21, I expect my transmission to respond immediately when I use them. Yes, I did have the car in dynamic mode. No, it did not have the Polestar tune on it, but from browsing around Swedespeed it sounds like that doesn't help much anyway (and Polestar Engineered models, by all accounts, also have atrocious manual shifting).
If Volvo had not come out of the gate marketing the S60 on its sporty driving dynamics, I would have never given it a second look. But they did and I bet they were hoping to capture customers from Audi and BMW. But they didn't set the car up correctly to win over the more performance-minded among us and then they further sabotaged the effort by announcing their intent to suck the joy from all of their cars going forward, and that was that. This car is selling miserably and it's not entirely attributable to the rise of the crossover; it's simply not what people want from a luxury sport sedan. Heck, it's not even more comfortable than the competition; it's too stiffly damped with a skittery rear end, worse NVH, and the seats are just par.
@@vomErsten I still don't think the 8 speed is tuned poorly. Again, in regular everyday use, it works great. Compared to your S3? Definitely not going to be as sporty or responsive. Where is this marketing of its sporty dynamics that you speak of? All the ads I saw were about standing apart from the crowd and unique design, nothing about sportiness.
Also, I was curious and looked up the sales figures. The S60 is not doing as badly as everyone claims anecdotally.
For Q3 2020:
Acura TLX - 5,707
Alfa Romeo Giulia - 2,291
Audi A4 - 5,958
BMW 3 Series - 8,243
Cadillac CT5 - 4,001
Genesis G70 - 2,732
Infiniti Q50 - 3,868
Jaguar XE - 400
Lexus IS - 3,629
Mercedes Benz C-Class - 7,215
Volvo 60-Series - 5,677
In Europe the S60 is a medium size sedan, not a compact one
Pilot assist is not adaptive cruise control. Pilot assist is lane centering and it works exceptionally well.
Additionally the ability to adjust steering feel is solid.
I have one and I love this car
Nice to see you again
You gotta love it to decide to buy it. Volvo is so special and it's just different kind of luxury. Just gotta love it. Definitely germans are better. But also everybody has benzes and bms.
Let’s get this guy to 1mil
58-60 grand for this is ridiculous.
It's a American made Volvo with lots of bells and whistles. What are you comparing with? Kia?
You should test that same car with the $1500 Polestar factory programming option. It gives more character to the engine and transmission.
Wow that’s a beautiful car. I don’t think I’ve even seen those around here.
Over here in Sweden they are everywhere
My friend wanted a 350Z for a while as a first car. Then he was in a rear-end car crash where his car got ran into from behind by a Ford F-350 with a ram guard. He now prefers a Volvo S60 instead.
If we could just have the old 5 cyl or inline 6 cylinder engines with this body I would be absolutely smitten. I remember the first time experiencing these cars saying that they "sound like a vacuum cleaner", and it's sad but it is the truth...
I think this car is underrated
I don't mind tapping to get heated seats or heated steering wheel, it's okay if the tech is evolving and there is no button anymore... however, I dislike having to tap 5 times to configure the massaging seat, at this point it feels gimmicky and I won't bother using it most of the time. I think the issue is not the touch screen, it's the lack of good GUI inside that touchscreen to access quickly the different settings. It's NOT BAD, but it could be better!
What is the big deal with front massaging seats?
you know what i'm just gonna say this... i don't like these luxury cars which has all the fucking luxury car features and pitched as luxury car but people want it to drive and sound sporty. i appreciate volvo isn't trying to be that, they've simply made this car what it's supposed to be and people who buys these don't want it to be visceral, they just want a well built compact luxury sedan. that's it
Agreed with everything you said
What a beautiful car
Can we see the new s90 please
No offense Every time I seen a Volvo it’s an old person on the freeway😂but this 2020 s60 is clean.
I don’t know if your sunglasses are new or not, but I like them! They’re nice! RayBan did good! My friend had the s80 like in 2012 and it was beautiful but crammed inside, for for adults. They make nicely appointed interiors! 😊
They’re Maui Jims.
The polestar models are nice. R's are nice
Please do the S90
Somehow the front facial, especially the headlight, hood line and fender area reminds me of mustang or fusion. And tail gate reminds me of audi
As a trained eye, I saw it too. Years ago in fact.
Couldn't agree more with your point about the downsizing of engines. But it's not necessarily about being sporty, it's about having that power to waft away regardless of the speed. Merc are doing the same, you used to be able to buy top Mercs with V12s, but not anymore.
This is what I don't get about how the industry thinks, or at least the so-called environmentalists. I mean just because you want a V8 or whatever, doesn't mean you want to drive around red-lining the damned thing all day long. You want it because it's there if you need it.
And never forget the Top Gear test they did with Prius against a Camero (or was it an M3?). The Camero only had to cruise behind the Prius as the Prius drove hell for leather around a track. The Camero didn't break a sweat and the Prius ended up burning more fuel!
This is my own experience driving tiny engine cars (in Europe). I got the feeling those little engines were burning more fuel because just keeping up with traffic required those little engines to work so hard!
I hate how everyone is saying Volvo should’ve gone more sporty. Most people buying these cars are driving on poor roads in the city and Volvo did right by going with a cushy ride
Any dashboard with the infotainment built-in is a win for me these days. The cheap fad of slapping a tablet on the dash is disgusting, especially in high end models.
Agreed.
I don't think anyone buying a Volvo is looking for speed. My Xc60 T6 is a fun drive and can take a beating in the winter.
My #1 issue with this, assuming you buy and not lease, is the resale. I looked at a used ‘20 fully loaded T6 Inscription at a dealer for $32,000. That’s not confidence inspiring for a mid $50s car that under a year old.
The SUVs are a different story, at least a family members 2015 XC60 with the turbo 6. I looked up the value one day it was still surprisingly high compared to what i was expecting
@@niuhuskieguy I agree. I’m interested in an XC40. I normally never buy new, I only buy certified used or leftover because of less depreciation. Leftovers are out of the question because the XC40 actually sells good and they have none. The dealer only had one used one ever come in. A 2019 T5 momentum traded in for a bigger XC90 that for some reason already had 70,000kms on it and they wanted $40,000! Even off lease XC60s hover around $45,000.
Markets must be crazy right now then right.. I’m seeing a 20 T6 inscription for $31,000 and this is 2 years later than the original post??
Why should I buy this again? I think I missed it. All I heard was complaints with little compliments. G70/Stinger GT2 for me.
At least on video that car sounds like my 1994 Accord I4 auto.
You are dead wrong about this car. I have this car and it is amazing. I can easily beat any car that comes my way on the road.
Volvo needs to let polestar to engage more with their cars and make them more sporty , polestar knows how to do it ,they just need more space.
Can you do a review of a s90?
Stay tuned! We have an S90 scheduled for loan next month :)
Red brake calipers? NO!
I love Volvo but it's time for a redesign.
Quite surprising the low sales.
Sells more than Lexus IS last year!
Sedans are dying right now. People love SUV:s and Crossovers right now.
Not really. It's a slower, less comfortable, less feature-filled car than the Germans and lacks the brand cachet to help boost them when CUVs are taking over.
Basically, mediocre car begets mediocre sales.
@@vomErsten Google "why sedans are dying" and READ the sale numbers brand to brand and what cars Mercedes, BMW and other car makers are producing and selling right now. Come back then.
@@RadioactiveSaddam I did this already while compiling a rebuttal to post on Swedespeed to a blind Volvo fan who was trying to rationalize buying a decontented MY21 S60 instead of a superior MY20 S60. Volvo S60 sales are getting slaughtered by Audi A4 sales, and Audi is the weakest of the German Three. Maybe you should take your own advice and do some of your own Google Fu. I suggest CarSalesBase.com as a good place to start.
I’m pretty sure the Lincoln MKZ has massaging seats too. NOT sure if it’s the same segment.
It's interesting that this guy in 2019 gave this same car great reviews in terms of looks and driving dynamics then a year later he is talking trash about the same car.
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Was like your producer off for the day or something? That camera shaking mad crazy..
Love Volvo
@@lamesamelame Hate Volvo
@@lamesamelame who gives a shit
Compact?..... beautiful car...Volvos do it for me..denim blue XC60 for the win...( , cheaper than the V60xc wagon)...I'm dubious of the twin charger tech reliability over the long run..
Coming from a big turbo'd 1st gen S60 T5 and it's guttural howl, this is ok. Just ok. If I'm getting one, the FIRST place I'm hitting up is Heico Sportiv. I'd get their sport exhaust and an intercooler, along with the Polestar Optimization from the dealer. Would I get one new? Nah. I'll wait until they come off lease with a CPO warranty.
turbo supercharged 4-cylinder, remember to throw some money to a jar monthly for future repairs...
I notice on the configurator, the T5 engine is the only one allowed now. Has the T6 engine been eliminated in the US?
Me either !! I guess it’s finally gone