Leaving the Egg Business
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Part of running a farm is the actual business, crunching numbers, checking cash flow and truly accounting for the value of our time and labor. I was making money, but some of that depended on how I valued my feed -- cost of production verses selling it in bags for deer hunters. Time wise, moving the coops was the worst because it always ended up a very late night chasing a few stragglers that wouldn't sleep in the coops, not to mention that I had many times of not moving the hens to fresh ground soon enough because everything else was happening on the farm like hay or planting. Then there is the mud in the winter. I don't have the barn setup for chickens. And after raising free range hens, I fully understand why the birds are kept in a barn. If I get back into eggs, the hens will have a permanent barn but still outside access. For now, I am enjoying the break from being tied to animals daily. I wonder if this is how a dairy farmer feels when he sells the cows? Side note: the dairy at the end of our road sold his cows recently. Must be something in the water here causing everyone to sell off their stock. (This is joke and has nothing to do with the train derailment in East Palestine.)
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I’m an IT person and I know dealing with “offshore” technical support is like getting pecked to death by chickens….lol
Try dealing with insurance companies on issues that are life threatening when you can understand maybe one word out of ten that's being burbeled at you. I recently had the pleasure (not) of "talking" with a representative of a major US company named Babe. I have no idea what language she was speaking.
You've always been willing to try new things. Keep it up. Eventually one will be right for the farm.
First time I see a chicken convoy, good instant income for you
I'm sure this was an interesting day. But your description explains it well. Besides it doesn't matter what your subscribers say or think, you have to do what's best for you. Thanks for sharing
I disagree, his subscribers do matter! Where wouldn’t this channel be without them!
Well yes he has to think about everything but he still has to do what is best for him
@@thomasmccardle725 you missed my point his subs opinion of his business decisions don't matter. Besides I'd wager the majority of his dubs are here too see a hard working man Making an honest living without spending a billion dollars of the latest and greatest equipment
@@thomasmccardle725 you. Don’t matter… not sure how much income TH-cam generates for Jacob, but he’d pry be further ahead with out it!
Interesting change in direction. Thanks for sharing it with us & enjoy your freedom.
Hang in there Jacob.
We're pulling for ya !
Always emotional to stop one thing ( after many years of doing it) start another. I talked to a dairy farmer once. That had just sold his herd after like 40 years. He said, I'm gonna enjoy it if it kills me! 😂🤣
Yep... that's for sure... bout went nuts when we quit row cropping and went all beef cow/calf herd. BUT it made sense-- costs were simply going through the roof for crop inputs and we were making more money for 1/5 the labor and 1/10th the costs with the cow herds... Grandpa and Dad paid for the Shiner farm baling and selling hay-- about 40,000 small squares a year. BUT by the late 60's/early 70's, the farm was paid off and Grandpa started building a herd of mixed beef cows and they quit the hay business-- just baled enough for their own needs. The Needville place had 62 acres of row crop ground and 14 acres of original native pasture... when we sharpened the pencil up and did the numbers back in the early 00's, we decided it was time to quit the row crops, fence the whole farm, and just run cows. First couple years was tough-- every decent day thinking "I should be in the field doing this or that, or working on the planter or sprayer or cotton picker or combine or baler or something..." with only hay to worry about, was a lot less to deal with. Kinda nice though when watching the neighbors struggling with incessant rain trying to get the ground ready to plant, or hoping it'd rain (or stop raining) during the season to save what they could of the crop, or busting hump trying to get it harvested in the scorching heat of July and August between severe thunderstorms, and hoping we didn't get a Gulf storm that would lay it all out on the ground or leave it standing in a foot or two of water for a week or two... cows at least have four wheel drive and can slog through the mud to find something to eat. Worst part is dealing with a hard winter and the past two years, SEVERE drought-- thankfully we were sold down to pay off my sister's share after mom died, now it's my brother and my operation. Was hoping to make some improvements and build the herd up more, but the drought and poor economy have put that on hold, have to see where things go from here... Seen plenty of tough times before and sure some down the road, things'll get better sooner or later. Not getting any younger tho and now the kid's at college, so there's that... Oh well...
It’s no Yolk leaving the Egg business 😮 Still great Videos Jacob 👍
Sorry to see you readjusting the farm’s production but from time to time everyone has to make those decisions… wish you well with in your new farming endeavors.
Best to get out if it doesn't make sense for you anymore. Good luck!
Good luck on new adventures. Small family farms have to adapt to survive.
It’s all about marketing
@@arthurdewith7608 Yeah, I know in years past he said he was making good money marketing eggs to fancy restaurants in Cincinati and such, but that was probably before the coof... I know the coof took one heck of a hit on the restaurant business even out in our area of rural TX; sure it took a bite out of bigger places, too. Costs skyrocketing the economy going in the toilet doesn't help, either. If that market dried up or shaved back and costs are going up to grow corn, and if a better more profitable market with less work materializes selling ear corn, well, it can be a no-brainer...
Good luck. Hard to make the changes but you have to move forward.
So that’s why egg prices are so high haha 😆. Yeah I see your point, it’s a lot of work and input cost.
Especially if he can sell the corn out of the crib for more money as-is, without grinding it and buying supplements and mixing feed and hauling it to feed chickens, all the labor of collecting and washing and packing eggs, etc.
Markets change and sometimes you can just "outgrow" what you can reasonably handle... lots of "niche" operations get that way... was watching some regenerative ag stuff that they were showing some big operation out in the NW that basically borrowed themselves and grew themselves into oblivion... working too much ground and dealing with too much money and not enough hours in the day or money to keep up with expenses... then something happens and it's a daisy-chain collapse like dominoes... Key is to figure out how big a bite you can chew and to look for opportunities to expand or diversify as you CAN, in a way that makes sense, and not get too deep in hock or end up working 18 hours a day trying to keep up and still not getting it all done. Quality of life is more important than money in the end, anyway...
Good stuff
So you're the reason for the egg shortage? LOL
Yep understand completely... we put pencil to paper and realized that for us row crops weren't making any sense... seed costs through the roof thanks to GMO's, fertilizer costs are unreal, chemicals were a bit cheaper with so many things coming off patent, but then new weed problems needing new chemicals and resistant old weeds needing new chemicals, parts costs for our older machinery, crop insurance being an expensive joke, and cotton and grain prices in the toilet and rarely venturing out of it... The boll weevil eradication program mandatory $20/acre fee on every acre of cotton made that unprofitable, and soybeans top out about 15-20 bushels here, if you get over 20 you're living right... grain sorghum is 4/5 the price of corn, though cheaper to produce due to seed being cheaper... we were self-financing and plunking down ever more hard cash in the HOPE of making a crop and nothing bad going wrong... and more and more often, stuff was going wrong... crazy weather, new bugs, new weeds, new diseases... and ever older machinery costing more and more to buy parts for and to upgrade to less worn out stuff... Did some figuring and we were making more money after expenses on beef cow/calf herd than row crops, with 1/5 the labor and 1/10th the expense... so it was a no brainer. We decided to fence off the 62 acres of row crop ground and just put it all in cattle.
First couple years I was about to go crazy, constantly, "It's a decent day and the ground is dry, I should be in the field doing SOMETHING!" But after year or two watching the neighbors battling rains and mud trying to get the crop in, or drought and worrying about the crop burning up in an early dry summer, or busting hump trying to get the crop harvested in the heat of July and August between severe thunderstorms, hopefully before a hurricane or Gulf storm came in and damaged or destroyed it, well that pretty well cured that problem. At least cows have four wheel drive and can go slogging through the mud to find something to eat LOL:) Now our biggest problem is baling hay for winter and feeding. Course the drought the last couple years was no fun, no fun at all, but thankfully we were sold down some to pay off my sister for her part after the old folks passed; now it's my brother's and my problem. Was hoping to start making improvements and building the herd back up, but that's kind of on hold because of the economy and costs and of course the drought the last two years. Thankfully the rains returned this year and things are at least greener and better. Have to wait and see where things go from here... not getting any younger...
All that chickens sound like a gang of 50 cc riders 😆. Clear video I would just stick with it if you can. Stay safe 🏴
Well hopefully you get your future big chicken barn in the future. I don't raise that many chickens 30 at Max. That's plenty enough for me.
Hello Jacob sad day sorry. Tomorrow a new day the beginning have a great day.
Good video.
Hey Jacob, I was more sad to see you let that running gear go the coops were built on. They're very scarce around here. And transporting them from out of state is such a PITA.
If you decide to get back into Chickens, consider compost feeding. I've only got around 100 Hens but I've cut back my food cost at least 40% between free ranging on a little over an Acre and a big compost pile inoculated with Red Wigglers and any other natural critters. I also get Food scraps from a few local resturants daily.
No money in small scale farming
Unless u look for freebies everywere
Second that! I also collect dead leaves and piling them into no-turn composting system (the chickens will turn those leaves themselves looking for bugs). My chickens also free range daily in the tropical forest of Indonesia, lots of bugs and grubs. Sometimes they also eat fruits that fallen off from trees in the forest. I've cut my feed cost at around 50%.
@@arthurdewith7608 I’m a small market farm not a full-time production farm. I make enough to pay for feed and my gas. I also work full time at a secular job too, so I’m not out to make big bucks farming. Maybe one day I’ll get more land and see what happens. Right now I’m buying chicks raising for a few weeks and selling them for 75% more no problem.
@@farwoodfarm9296 incubate ur own get couple of horny roosters a shed propane heaters an easy job for an older retired fella that’s what the mennonites and Amish do
Sorry to see them go, but I bet you'll enjoy the freedom.
Now that you are out of the egg business. Will you make a video about your egg business? And reason for selling out? My guess is get out now while the getting is good! When the egg and laying hens prices drop the big suppliers are going to price you out anyway.
Did you also sell the egg washer ?
You'll miss the animals but not the work ! How do i know I took on my Dads custom hog feeding operation when he retired. I did it 10 years, dealing with baling 1200 rounds of straw hauling it home, repairing all the machinery, spreading the manure if it wasn't a wet year to get on the land. doing all the daily chores/end batch barn clean outs. Helping the hog owners sorting/shipping and custom machine repairs for other guys to in my "spare Time". Straw got to be worth $20 a bale if I could find it local when fertilizer prices got higher. The machinery needed updating again, maintenance prices was high even 6 years ago and 5000 hogs at $16 out the door wasn't worth it with the straw price and hassle dealing with the idiots messing me round that wrote the check for doing it. This high price will crash it always does, and there will be tons that got in getting out fast. Take care
That sounds like too much work.
Now you don't have an excuse as to why the 2+2 isn't fixed 🤣🤣 I'm kidding, but in all seriousness,parting with the flock will definitely help with the whole time management issue. I'm glad I didn't end up with them though.
It's sad you got rid of ur chickens but u decided to and u did wat u think is right in ur way
Sometimes you have to cut your losses and get out. Congratulations on finding someone who thinks they are going to make it rich selling eggs during the reported egg shortage!
Their going to a good home. Feeds high .
I that meaning u will be grain farmer or u only selling hens
Interesting
Life on the farm.....
I watched the video and never heard why your ending this part of your farm, it’s one of the reasons I watched your channel! At the price of eggs in the stores it doesn’t make sense to my tiny brain 😂
If I remember correctly he can make more money selling ear corn to hunters verses feeding the chickens with the same corn. Plus I also believe it was a time management decision
@@koryleague8833 I think he’s probably making more from his TH-cam channel than deer corn, chickens or eggs! That’s why I don’t think this is a good idea, I hope the deer corn market doesn’t fail Jacob and I hope he doesn’t loose any subscribers. No matter what Jacob does I wish him the best!
@@thomasmccardle725 I doubt TH-cam generates much income… he only has 50 thousand subs
@@jaredmoorman1300 TH-cam income is more dependent on views than subscribers.
@@J-1410 social blade tracks TH-cam income… not sure how accurate it is as it gives a very wide range… even if boehm farm is at the top of his range, 5k isn’t that much money for the equipment and time I’d say it’s more of a passion and a hobby then a money making endeavor! I do enjoy and appreciate the videos tho!
Why did you sell, your chickens? 😢
Did you sell the egg washer to? Or you hanging on to that once and a lifetime steel you got?
I sold it to. Keeps temptation away.
But there is no money in fattening dairy cattle for meat with the good prices of corn
That's why I have lots of hay
And there is no money in free ranging chickens the predators kill half or better and it takes to much food energy to produce an egg if the bird is running around in all kinds of weather
I didn't have issues with predators.
what about escaped chickens and stragglers that might mia
I got them all.
Let's see the ones you kept
The small skinny ones? U mean
They are the ones laying the eggs
How much where you charging per dzn when you sold them?
I was wholesaling for $35/case, but I had no money in packaging and I didn't deliver.
Layers are a lot of work old hens eat to much
Are you getting out of the eggs business all together?
For right now, yes
Did you keep the docs?
Yes
Selling off the chickens will free you up for some other constructive projects.
Did you save some to eat?
Yes, I have a dozen
Did the egg washer go with them?
Yes
It was in the back of the white truck.
With the price of eggs so high, I"d buy more chickens.
No right now is the time to sell out. Laying hens are high chicken house's are high and people are interested in buying in trying to make a Buck. Everything he sold is bringing a premium now is the time to sell. Might not see these prices again in his life.
A lot of people don’t understand the numbers side that goes into a business
@@RYAN-nd8bv they were all old hens laying under 50 percent and they were not sex linked variety all they do is eat get fat and die or molt. Age 25 to 50 weeks sex linked will lay well but then the raccoons skunks birds of prey dogs and cats love to eat chickens u need a big barn
@@arthurdewith7608 I never heard him say that they were laying under 50 percent. Pretty sure this flock is less than two years old. He said for what work and feed he was putting in to the chicken's he could make the same money selling deer corn with more free time.
@@RYAN-nd8bv I’ve gone this type of bird before at two years they are done
Don't make sense... Selling out with record high prices. Sounds like conspiracy
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the price of eggs and your getting out of the business
Cost of production is up… margin are tight… that’s business!
Time to get out is when everyone wants in.
@@boehmfarm4276 Always do the opposite of what the masses are doing.
@@boehmfarm4276 Yep record prices never last... but the bills and the loans do... Let someone else worry about high dollar corn and high feed bills and paying top of the market for hens and chicken tractors, and making their money back selling eggs from it, while you count your money from cashing out. In a few years when the market goes in the toilet, it'll be cheap to get back in, if it makes sense and you want to have another go, you can build a barn of some sort like you thought, or start with some chicken tractors that you'll have your choice of cheap because everybody's ready to get out, or you can take lessons learned and do it another way or do something else entirely....
Like you said, time to sell out is at the top of the market, when everything you have is at top dollar value, and everybody's clamoring to get in.... not when it all goes to pot and you have to give everything away and get nothing for it...
How to contact you? Can you leave an email about cooperation.
If your good at digging, we have a Facebook page.
@@boehmfarm4276 It is a Farm security camera, which applies to you.
id sell them here they bring $25 to $50 a hen!!
Old 2year hens heritage rode islands? In Canada 3 to 5$ for slaughter
@@arthurdewith7608 yes normally thed be $2 chickens here, seen some odd breed bring $78 friday times 6 the bid
Did you also sell the egg washer ?
Yes, everything went. Good way to keep temptation down.
It was in the back of the white truck if you wanted to rewatch.